is-station

[remote badger]

so i can knife the boss down

[rich thorn]

in real life?

[somber stream]

Oh.. Oh, well.

[sinful sparrow]

dont play any of the damage

play multiplayer, be a flanking slave

[remote badger]

buy me the game 🥹

[sinful sparrow]

???

isnt it like 300k VND

[remote badger]

i pirated it lol

[sinful sparrow]

?!

😢

[remote badger]

went broke again

[crystal niche]

damn ed5 is chongyue?

[remote badger]

shuo

[crystal niche]

didn't expect that to be the boss

i wonder what kind of new lore is in ed5

[rich thorn]

why

[sinful sparrow]

fish eggs in is5

lol

[remote badger]

yep

[sinful sparrow]

lamp users in shambles

[prime mountain]

Broken with abjurer hand!!!!!!!! surely

Insane dps

[somber stream]

[remote badger]

+2 wish

!!!

[prime mountain]

Nope now you also draft ange and have 2 crazy dps units!!!

[sinful sparrow]

furrilo is being pregnant again

😢

[prime mountain]

No bro imagine having someone that does damage AND heals!!!!!!!

[open finch]

Omg Reed alter

[rich thorn]

again????

[open finch]

Most perfect operator

[remote badger]

when can we have a ummm

i forgot again

[sinful sparrow]

i love u

[crystal niche]

so abjurer hand doesn't work with haruka s2?

is her s2 not sourced to her?

[rich thorn]

yep, punished by not picking haru

[remote badger]

fih eggs

[crystal niche]

im confused if it's sourced or not

[prime mountain]

its f4 you rob this no?

[rich thorn]

ye

gonna try

[sly harness]

Shamare will deal damage

[rich thorn]

anyway slop run

[crystal niche]

shamare my goat

[sly harness]

(she is drafted in Sniper/Medic)

You use her in ed4 map2 and against Amiya in p2

10k True Damage nukes are funny

[crystal niche]

[sly harness]

[Afterglow of the Black Crown] - upon entering second form or when a <Vestige of Creativity> touches Amiya, deals 250% ATK as true damage to 7 friendly units within range

atk 3186

This is at base but we also can

[crystal niche]

is vestige of creativity the black balls?

[sly harness]

Yes

[crystal niche]

wait what

floor diff?

[sly harness]

The multiplier

[crystal niche]

no i meant multiplier from what

the higher floors have more atk?

[sly harness]

For IS5 d18 it is 22% per floor with multiplicative scaling

[crystal niche]

[prime mountain]

One from talons +20%, one from the ed2 alt relic

and then t3 egg

[somber stream]

[sly harness]

Enemy buff increases the HP and ATK of enemies by the specified percentage on each floor (starting on 1F and increases on subsequent floors), using the following formula: a = (1+b)^c (a is the total buff; b is the buff percentage; c is the floor number).

[crystal niche]

wow i didn't know there were floor multipliers

[sly harness]

You can read the percentage in game under the enememies difficulty

[open finch]

It was really noticeable when they introduced this shit in is3

Cuz f5 statcheck stages like piper's call were really statcheck-y

[open finch]

[crystal niche]

[remote badger]

yep

[crystal niche]

good thing im only on d10 rawr

[open finch]

Moew

[remote badger]

reading comprehension issues

[sly harness]

Like back in the days of its original release?

[remote badger]

meow

[open finch]

Yea

[sinful sparrow]

kermit known cat?

😢

[open finch]

That was when we didn't even have Texas 😔

[remote badger]

cat station

[crystal niche]

your description is interesting

[open finch]

Mlynar pozy were all we got

[open finch]

Ok but thoughts

Agree?

[remote badger]

i dont understand

[open finch]

Moew

[sly harness]

Also it is funny you should always extend the enemy difficulty section because the actual number like enemy difficulty +10 can be very misleading

[crystal niche]

honestly AOT is just solitude but of ones own choice so yes, cringe yes, idk bout dissonant tho

[sinful sparrow]

is3 surging waves +18 being 30% HP 25% ATK is not on my book

[open finch]

I'm just an aot hater

Too many dick riding pseudo intellectuals

[remote badger]

i haven't watched any anime yet

[crystal niche]

well i was only a fan of one char so i don't remember much

[sly harness]

It seems like in IS6 the numbers actually overlap

[crystal niche]

huh

wdym

[sly harness]

Like in IS3 you had them in order from +1% for enemies difficult 1 and went by 1 up to d15 (enemy difficulty +15 = 15%)

[open finch]

Who did u like

[sly harness]

Then we got enemies difficulty +16 - +18 but the percentages were completely different

[crystal niche]

||the guy that died in s2, the yellow haired guy that eren talked to on s1 ep1 at the gates||

forgot the name

[static dragon]

d16 to d18 has different additional modifier

for all IS that have d16+

[crystal niche]

huh not only are they harder, they are a completely different multiplier

[static dragon]

roguelike ascension and bloated stats are inseparable

[sly harness]

Ye, but now that I look at it every other IS displays it properly with enemy difficulty +X actually being a given %

[crystal niche]

@open finch ||hannes||

[open finch]

Oh the unc

[open finch]

I like that guy too

[faint rampart]

🤨

[crystal niche]

was my fav and still is, down to earth guy

[prime mountain]

What if we just more than doubled every enemy stat

!

[sly harness]

IS6 with 25% on d18

[sinful sparrow]

thats my goat

[static dragon]

cursed relics exist for that

[sly harness]

On f7 you will get 4.768 (so almost stats x5)

[static dragon]

IS4 has collapsal paradigm that gives enemies bonus +100% HP

[sinful sparrow]

ok but

is4 enemies have 0 statss

lol

[static dragon]

it is what it is

[dark oasis]

I'm getting rekt by these sarkaz emergency op stages

[open finch]

That's how it goes

[prime mountain]

The best strat is to unironically just dont play them

simply reroll

😭

[sly harness]

stats x5 for d18

[faint rampart]

but can we consistently highroll in is4...

[static dragon]

0 times 5 is still 0

[sinful sparrow]

please bro

[crystal niche]

nahhhh

[sly harness]

Everyone knows that one cycling Sentinel is cringe

[sinful sparrow]

is4 and highroll isnt in the same sentence

the relic quality is 🫃

[crystal niche]

what about

is2

[sly harness]

Can we consistently highroll in IS3? I can

[sinful sparrow]

ur pregnant

[static dragon]

if what you consider highrolling is using fordaltar to make all node into emergency combat node, maybe

[sly harness]

All nodes into Bosky

[static dragon]

[crystal niche]

did that once and not have done it again

[static dragon]

all nodes into trade

[sly harness]

All in. -999

[sleek cave]

What's the usual solve for is6 ed1a ?
Got through it twice, but it was really messy

Should i just route to ed2a instead ?

[faint rampart]

usual solve is to do ed2 inste—

:run:

[sleek cave]

[sly harness]

Hoshi2 and Haruka ig

Or

[sleek cave]

Just highroll

[sly harness]

(it is not a Saki promotion, but rather the just farm approach)

[sly harness]

Is highroll really a highroll if you get in on average

[static dragon]

i dont see the different from default ed1

[sly harness]

50 collectibles by ed1 is an average outcome now

[sly harness]

It is default

[static dragon]

he asked about alt ed1

[sleek cave]

I got their point tho

[sly harness]

Doesn't change the fact that the boss would just die the same way

[static dragon]

billions tongbao must be tossed

[paper notch]

the boss kinda doesnt do anything in ed1a anyway

[sleek cave]

Don't flex on me shileds

[sinful sparrow]

why so many #683721151301681188 “people” here 😢

[paper notch]

:susge:

[sleek cave]

I'm seeking knowledge

[faint rampart]

ooh so these are help creatures📝

[paper notch]

wtf

[sly harness]

you chose well

[heady hill]

how many floors does is5 have

[sly harness]

5 base

ed3 and ed4 are on f6

ed5 can be on f6 or f7

[heady hill]

o

[sly harness]

You also have "Boskies" a special floors

[crystal niche]

is2 bosky hype!?

[sly harness]

there is 1

[earnest shuttle]

is 28 relics on floor 3 decent ?

[rich thorn]

if there is drums or stir fry - good

[earnest shuttle]

Im about to find out soon

[sly harness]

hallucination with an additional floor with only encounters

[crystal niche]

still no shop rob

[sly harness]

At the beginning or at the end

[crystal niche]

[sly harness]

If at the beginning pretty good, if at the end okayish

[open finch]

Quotation marks goes crazy

[earnest shuttle]

uhh im at the boss stage rn, taking a break for a moment then I will do the boss stage later

[crystal niche]

which boss

[earnest shuttle]

the low hovering altitude boss

that one stage with ice machine

[rich thorn]

woman with talismans

[earnest shuttle]

yea

[sinful sparrow]

:mon3trsmug:

[vagrant tiger]

Hoooly Fuck this run was goofy

[faint rampart]

was it :susge:

[vagrant tiger]

Indeed

So glad I got Narantuya from a single pull

[faint rampart]

🤨

[vagrant tiger]

I wish I kidding

[sly harness]

1. Where are my combats? (Only 5 wtf low roll.)
2. Nice stir-fry. (With 1 combat left.)
3. And where is my shop?

[faint rampart]

wha

[sly harness]

Highrolling collectibles count is so hard

[faint rampart]

uh i didn't mean about the pull...i just dont understand whats goofy about that run

[vagrant tiger]

Oooh

It’s just I didn’t play IS at all for a WHILE so I’m not exactly used to the ridiculous levels of power you can get

Yi got melted each phase in like, ten seconds

[faint rampart]

😢 nothing new

[vagrant tiger]

But for me it was!

[faint rampart]

rip my curiosity

congrats anyways

[sly harness]

ten seconds.... A bit long

(yes I will spam this every time when there is an opportunity. Why? Idk but it is stupid)

[vagrant tiger]

Fair enough!

[faint rampart]

🐐
🕳️

ed1+saki clips
lukas fell off😢

[sly harness]

I need to go back to different IS

[faint rampart]

yeah bro

[sly harness]

(still I may want to hit 150 collectibles in 1 run without looping)

[vagrant tiger]

Looping?

[sly harness]

Getting infinity resources with abuse of some mechanics

[faint rampart]

is that why bros enduring so many ed4 banless runs😭

[sly harness]

I can do either this or win every run with gvg

(I don't feel like playing the 12+ bans)

[gusty aurora]

Lukas did you get bored of killing sui again and again you just went for the humble carpet maker ?

[sly harness]

Like here? This was an ed1 run for one of the new squads

I wouldn’t touch ed1 if I didn’t have to. In dlc0, when I couldn’t find ed2, I would just quit the run if I wasn’t playing for badges

[gusty aurora]

You really despise yi ?

[remote badger]

ed1 in every IS is kinda fraud

[gusty aurora]

Tbh you're right

Fremont :

I just change yo ops placement

[sly harness]

You just retreat everything before he does that

[main bison]

finally did ed4....on d4

[gusty aurora]

Ngl i just use ulpian

[main bison]

took longer to kill the beast due to deployment location, and my dumb self forgot a 4 block

[gusty aurora]

Just send the whale after the criplling old man

[sly harness]

ngl I haven't played him much post dlc2

[main bison]

so he ran around taking shots the whole time

[sly harness]

ed2 with Boats is so funny

[scarlet hamlet]

Out of all the people present in here https://is-central.github.io/is5-sarkaz/low-rarity-recommendations/
I should build all ?

[quick steppe]

ed2 with boats is where the tree runs crumple because tragodia cannot solo carry it

and i forgor to lamp into coin toy

[scarlet hamlet]

I read on roadless camleot to just either recruit 6* or 3*

[quick steppe]

grab everyone that's yellow tbh

[scarlet hamlet]

I am kind of confused

[quick steppe]

you can get the other ones later

[remote brook]

is there still no way to change amiya's class in is?

[prime mountain]

This is a guide specific to is5 max difficulty with specific squads

Not in general

[scarlet hamlet]

Ye I just wanna do is5 rn

Sorry, forgot to mention

[quick steppe]

if you exit the run and change the class it updates normally

[prime mountain]

Ok so which squad are you going to run firstly? IS5 is very comp dependant (because of the lamp relic you get every run)

Options shown in the link you provided

[faint rampart]

roadless camelot...sounds like help, assuming you're just farming for rewards

[grim portal]

Wait so you can change her class?

[remote badger]

yes

[quick steppe]

i think we should start practicing for d18

we're gonna start with erudite squad

[faint rampart]

nuh uh

[quick steppe]

humus tragodia myrrh

2 plans or 2 hope

[remote brook]

thats how its been forever

[prime mountain]

Myrrh????? what we using her for

[quick steppe]

ya no better way rn

[scarlet hamlet]

Which squad should I run based on my roster ?
Krooster: https://www.krooster.com/u/cuff13

[prime mountain]

krooster taking forever to load one moment

[scarlet hamlet]

Sorry I didn't understand what you meant by that sentence

[remote badger]

cough

[quick steppe]

so we're gonna start with erudite squad

[scarlet hamlet]

Are you asking me the latter?

[quick steppe]

lowkey it might have to be erudite squad

[remote badger]

please level your 4*s

[faint rampart]

are you just playing for the IS5 level rewards

[quick steppe]

no flingers

[remote badger]

i beg u

[prime mountain]

Thats what he's asking for right now

Im thinking g/vg with ulpi leizi and like borrow silverash to start idk

[scarlet hamlet]

Yes

[remote badger]

gummy click

wis borrow

use blueprint

[prime mountain]

No bro we train him to be good

no slop here

[remote badger]

for like farming purposes

[faint rampart]

oh then methinks you can ignore 4*, just borrow supports at start and win with Wis

[quick steppe]

gvg no hoe for lamp and no hoe for exu trag

[sly harness]

Then build nothing. Borrow beanstalk and Tin Man and Wis and Lamp spam

[remote badger]

hm

[quick steppe]

no true damage too no vina no kal no m3
just wis slop through ed1 is the best i think

[scarlet hamlet]

I kinda wanna not borrow supports if possible

[quick steppe]

unless you commit to trag lamp tree

[faint rampart]

oof

[sly harness]

Is recommending Lamp spam healthy?

[quick steppe]

i mean its the fastest way to get rewards

[prime mountain]

Nah the difference between wishadel lamp and not using her is actually insane

[remote badger]

farming purposes yes

[scarlet hamlet]

Really ?

I will just borrow walter then

[remote badger]

aiming for 245 no

[faint rampart]

to create a d10 spammer or potential d18 dalao....

[prime mountain]

You get her hand relic for free which is 150% extra damage

like just

all the time

[sly harness]

But I think it causes brain damage

[scarlet hamlet]

Wtf that's crazy

[sly harness]

We need to study it I think

[scarlet hamlet]

She already does so much damage

[quick steppe]

the d18 dalao needs a box thats ready for it 😭

[remote badger]

looks like his acc needs a verrrrry long time to even be able to do 245

[quick steppe]

ya box is not there yet

it's a long term goal

my box is barely ready for it tbh
no hoe 🥺 no ho ol 🥺 no lem 🥺

[scarlet hamlet]

What does 245 mean ?

[remote badger]

-# with wis ban

[sly harness]

Where is Mai with her speedrun of d18 ed4 on a new account (she was talking about something like this once)

[remote badger]

3 ending in a row

[prime mountain]

Is5 gets even more insane you get the full king set relic with guaranteed way of being at 1hp all the time

Check pins for info on lamp

[remote badger]

which is the hardest in is5

(245)

[scarlet hamlet]

I just borrow wis and do nothing else ?

Lmao

[quick steppe]

for low diff ed1 yea

[scarlet hamlet]

I thought I had to build some 3*

[prime mountain]

For other IS yeah

[faint rampart]

yeah, 15 mins per run or something

[prime mountain]

but is5 is slop

[sly harness]

For all diffs ed1

[scarlet hamlet]

Ok maybe in a month I reach is5 max level

[faint rampart]

2 days

[scarlet hamlet]

Huh

Lol

[sly harness]

Ye like 10 hours of grinding

For all the rewards

[rich thorn]

• is5 is slop
• cant fucking f4 rob on d18
  😭

[quick steppe]

f4 rob is slop anyway real isheads are robbing late on that trag lamp joint

[sly harness]

Master bait has a guide 😇

[scarlet hamlet]

Basically i barge into is5 pick what squad wish that first recruit has sniper pick wis and then just run around ?

[quick steppe]

you get all your relics from 🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲

[scarlet hamlet]

That's it ?

[prime mountain]

You get the lamp encounter on f1, then reroll everything into a wish while staying at heavy toughts so it puts you down to 1 hp

so you get king relics and flinger hand

From those wish

[sly harness]

Unlock Blueprint squad from the skill tree as fast as possible

[quick steppe]

ok im seeing the "permanent damage" argument for lamp slop now

[sly harness]

(it is in a skill tree right?)

[quick steppe]

overlamping and handmixing taught to new players

[scarlet hamlet]

Ah this is the all rewards loop?

[prime mountain]

Ya its why I hate it

[scarlet hamlet]

Thanks

[prime mountain]

Nobody learns how to play the game they just point wishadel at everything and win 🥀

[rich thorn]

true

[scarlet hamlet]

At least she is hot

[sly harness]

Wait for IS6 in a few months

[faint rampart]

do they even wanna become a good player or just want rewards and then dip

[sly harness]

We will be recommending an entire battle pass in 1 run strat

Imagine if not for Raidian you will play IS6 once and get everything

[faint rampart]

yeah if you're just playing for rewards
the isc web you mentioned b4 has more guides if you wanna go deep

[rich thorn]

after rewards is only suffering trying to d18 bosses

[faint rampart]

nop they have a life😔

[vagrant tiger]

Which is one of the reasons I don’t like her, and a reason I don’t use borrowing ops

[sly harness]

trying? No, no, no.... We are optimizing it and practicing for consistency

[main bison]

Furrilo, did Ed4

but only d4, can tell I'd stuggle at d12...

[rich thorn]

🤡

[sly harness]

It is not a Wisadel issue but rather the approach of the player

[paper notch]

[hearty crypt]

My friend say IS5 easiest but somehow I find it much more frustrating and not easy at all (I only play IS3 and IS6 so far)

[sly harness]

Wisadel as a tool is perfectly fine

[main bison]

I hate IS6, but find IS5 quite fun

IS4 was intense, but in a fun way

[rich thorn]

245 t3 d18 is not a fucking optimizing, its ballz totrure

[sly harness]

IS5 is more cheesable then IS6

[paper notch]

lamp of wishes wisadel tech. makes it very easy. guaranteed flinger hand + guaranteed kings steamrolls ed1

[main bison]

I like cheese

[prime mountain]

If you dont use this its absolutely the hardest IS though

[hearty crypt]

I love IS6 cuz I can conserve recruit vouchers (i have skill issue)

[prime mountain]

(at high diff)

[hearty crypt]

Is3 is easy cuz most of the time boss will die to any type of oneshot

[quick steppe]

🪼🪼🪼

[faint rampart]

🤔

[paper notch]

[sly harness]

You know what to do, the difficulty doesn't exist unless you limit yourself (by e.g. forcing 245 and high diffs)

[sly harness]

IS6 is like that

[hearty crypt]

I just want to clear all the reward then say bye so well

[faint rampart]

creature

[hearty crypt]

[sly harness]

I should make it into a gif

[rich thorn]

true, maybe i was consistent in f5 reaching with rob if no wis ban

[sly harness]

Unironically Ros better

[hearty crypt]

I used to high roll and got Raidan solo the entire map

[sly harness]

I mean she has some advantages

[hearty crypt]

I mean the Yi boss

[sly harness]

Especially in Lmap

[hearty crypt]

And how is that possible

[quick steppe]

wis is lowkey not some austrian dictator at d18 the way the ban would have you think

she is good in one specific squad and even then it's just as a greyy upgrade 😭

[sly harness]

But she is slightly better then everything else en route, especially without Lamp

[quick steppe]

ya shes def not bad

[sly harness]

Just roll, when you average 50 collection on f5 stuff like that happens all the time

Interesting how Wis ban doesn't seem like a valid thing with the newest IS content like IS3 d18 or IS6 dlc2

(Btw IS3 d18 was after or before IS5 d18?)

[quick steppe]

before i think

[sly harness]

🥀

[rich thorn]

pure no wis propaganda

https://tenor.com/view/rosmontis-arknights-ticket-head-pat-gif-8607374220792863875

[sly harness]

What powercreep does to even the strongest

[rich thorn]

surely this chat will cook something wis SA2 in is5

[sly harness]

(we need some of the strongest in history vs the strongest of today meme when we put Wis versus every new 6*)

[quick steppe]

sa2 is a neat pickup for is5
nothing too gamebreaking

incredible in is6 tho

[sly harness]

And very good in IS3

[quick steppe]

if we look at the riceball cup the S tiers were radian yato2 sa2 and hoshi2

so a rough idea of top 4 for is6

[paper notch]

exu2 washed smh

[rich thorn]

no gnosis with module?

or he 2nd pick after sa2

[faint rampart]

the cups again....

[sly harness]

He is not that strong. Nice pick with SA2 and Prama and freez stuff

[quick steppe]

gnosis is def good but its mostly as a combo with the other kjerag units

prio drops a lot if you dont have sa2

[sly harness]

Maybe ban 2 of 4 for the IS Central medal

[faint rampart]

hoshi2 ban no...

[sly harness]

Tbh the format of ban X of X sounds nice for those medals

[quick steppe]

ban 0 of them :ya:

[simple rover]

good god IS6 is hard AF

[sly harness]

[faint rampart]

easiest (or second easiest) i heard

[rich thorn]

d15 is pretty easy

[simple rover]

i dont own her

[paper notch]

[rich thorn]

anything before d12 is stupid faceroll with flower squad

[simple rover]

i dont have the newest meta character

[paper notch]

boss still combusts even if you have just raidian

[faint rampart]

have you checked the guide in pins

[split void]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/814537437170499584/1480032939260776448/Screenrecorder-2025-07-24-02-22-22-117.mp4?ex=69d3c656&is=69d274d6&hm=a232a62d4ce70d51dbc4e2ebdcc971615d34339e2002d1ae16940023c6dc1cb6&

My daughter is always the right choice

[sly harness]

This is a showcase of a bad op in IS6

[faint rampart]

is6 gives you enough shits even random goober can be bosskiller

[sly harness]

What means that with good it will be even crazier

[simple rover]

it showcase operator that i dont have

[faint rampart]

@rose pls use the kroos gif

[sly harness]

The only important thing is that they are weak

[simple rover]

also

[sly harness]

[simple rover]

i never reach the final boss

[faint rampart]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/814537437170499584/1458274308429447199/video_20260103_034642_edit.gif

[rich thorn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/814537437170499584/1488202793142714470/gif-20260330-183619.gif

[paper notch]

holy

[simple rover]

if any of u kind enough to coach me on VC ill truly happy

[faint rampart]

^could read them and if you have any questions then uh

[grim portal]

imo IS run's more about RNG, learning the mob's mechanic and so many retry. so it's not like some coaching materials

[paper notch]

uhhh

no

[rich thorn]

no

for is5 at least

with lamp

[paper notch]

depends on difficulty but im assuming this guy might be struggling with low diff

low diff is just skill/knowledge issue

there's close to no rng in low diff

[simple rover]

dont this guy me... just say u while taging me

[grim portal]

i think my opinion is on higher dif but yeah probably he just starting IS6's run

[rich thorn]

mode more about skill issues and planning

[simple rover]

but yeah i cant even pass the guided tour

[grim portal]

what's your current maxed 6* lineup? maybe some people here able to suggest some strat that reusable each run based on it

[paper notch]

i didnt @ you cuz i dont like getting @'d myself when im in the chat talking

[rich thorn]

thats for sure enuff to climb till d12

min

[rich thorn]

and max up raidian

[quick steppe]

lowkey looks a bit tough

low diff should be fine tho

[paper notch]

you build raidian with difficulty increase anyway

[split void]

Do you
Take candle on F1
Save recruitment vouchers (pink upper button when recruit )
Turn them to candle guest in 1st node F2
Enter bosky on F2

[grim portal]

borrowing exu alter / tragodia early then. prepare 4*'s ops too because they can cost 0 mid run

[rich thorn]

mango, do you have link for trag tree squad start?

[simple rover]

yes i do that...

[split void]

Try some turmoil node on bosky

They are good

[simple rover]

i think my problem is with the enemy that when die they turn into unblockable and invisible things... its really grind my teeth

[faint rampart]

hitcount....

🥀

[paper notch]

oh those things?

[split void]

You mean multi hit ? Invisible is kinda ....

[grim portal]

battle as much as you can, with at least 1 DPS carried the whole battle, bait enemy with other than the DPS by deploy multiple ops at the "same" time

[quick steppe]

link to what
no guide on isc yet

[open finch]

You can write it

[rich thorn]

cuz you mentioned how good that shit is, to start with trag on tree squad

[quick steppe]

ah
there’s some stuff but it’s all in moonrunes(mandarin)

[rich thorn]

im fine with google translate ver

cuz im pretty sure that shit is either talons or lamp handmix

[quick steppe]

ill send the shill video first 🔥

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1UCrmBXERP/?spm_id_from=333.337.search-card.all.click

strongest lamp

you can tell from how excited the guy in the video is to share his findings

[rich thorn]

from the first screen i can see what he cooked

damn

tree brings joy, but they also brings sorrow

[quick steppe]

#deepinsights

[unkempt wind]

Chat, does face-off nodes give out better reward than emergency ops?

[rich thorn]

in what is?

[unkempt wind]

Is5

[rich thorn]

usually no, because you cant get plans there

but better than normal fights

[sly harness]

Incorrect

You get 1

When entering

[rich thorn]

oh

ye

tree update

anyways, better than 0 plan combat normal node

[paper notch]

better than 1 plan emergency tbh

[unkempt wind]

Thank you for the useful information

[sly harness]

Less exp and less ingots

[paper notch]

feels like it has a higher chance of spawning the 2 animals tho

maybe that's just a feel thing

[rich thorn]

thats just random no?

[sly harness]

Yes

[rich thorn]

ofk its jackpot

[paper notch]

ye but you can reroll it

[rich thorn]

[sly harness]

You can get mimic and flying chest too

15 Ingots

[paper notch]

yeee

it's also less time in stage !!

[scarlet hamlet]

sorry for such a dumb question but i was told to unlock blueprint squad it says the condition as
unlock "history explorer" in historical reconstruction what node is that in what floor ?

[sly harness]

[paper notch]

mainly it's less time in stage

[sly harness]

Skill tree

[scarlet hamlet]

oh

i see

[rich thorn]

pretty interesting vid actually, looks like tin man one of core part of strat

also wtf, leizi2 start

and something something, always have 6 trees in pocket

[quick steppe]

leizi2 probably not the craziest thing he's done
many are trying to understand his mantra start runs

[faint rampart]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/976478719499718757.webp?size=48&name=Binoculars

is5 looking interesting

[chrome tangle]

ellets when are u playing IS3

[flint token]

maybe he’s just playing IS for the love of the game

[cunning talon]

Done maxing fish girl
How difficult is is5 compared to is6?

[flint token]

er piss easy lol

i mean both are

but is5 is sorta less annoying

[rich thorn]

true, now its piss easy

on d15

d18 on dlc2 in same time....

20m hp ed4 boss

[cunning talon]

Refreshing nodes sure are a great addition

[pure oyster]

In the encounter that gives 1 random trinket for 4 ingots or 3 random trinkets for 15 ingots worth it?

[flint token]

More like addition so bad they gotta restrict its access

[faint rampart]

i heard playing is3 does permanent dmg to your account

[inland elbow]

Lies and slander

Building weedy is nothing but a buff

[flint token]

I mean it’s heavily discounted so
personally i just consider it to be better ancient tree fruit

[faint rampart]

look birb you summoned bait with the is3 mention

[chrome tangle]

show me weedy in IS5/IS6 ending solves

[pure oyster]

Ok I just worry I’ll get some useless trinkets

[rich thorn]

if i remember, this pool doesnt have kings relics?

[sly harness]

Weedy solves the mount and sea stage in IS6 f6

It is hard stage

[chrome tangle]

aint a boss stage smh

[sly harness]

So you should draft her for it

[inland elbow]

Weedy is left side solve in quilon 👍

[sly harness]

[chrome tangle]

bait u are omega impreg

[flint token]

Is5 is easy theresis/quilon is right there
weedy is also good against waregeists

[sly harness]

This stage is harder than the boss

[faint rampart]

atleast he didn't call is6 slop yay

[chrome tangle]

IS6 isnt slop

its a different lifestyle

👼

[rich thorn]

its slop

till you not limit yourself with ops

[chrome tangle]

yall thats being IS-ist

[rich thorn]

[rich thorn]

nope, im not there, no d18 245 wis ban is5 clear

🥹

[faint rampart]

fake utopia

[brazen bane]

knowledgecheckslop

[chrome tangle]

perfect utopia is IS3 being perfect cause of its blue eyes and blonde hair

[rich thorn]

you wanted to say is4

[paper notch]

[chrome tangle]

AYO

5790 knowers

[cunning talon]

Are there any guides for older IS than 5 and 6

[chrome tangle]

wat exactly are you looking for

[faint rampart]

so many good players praise is3 maybe its actually good

[chrome tangle]

bait has an Izumik guide for IS3

kermit has an ED4 guide for IS4

[cunning talon]

Not having a burnout at the start

[chrome tangle]

ellets im cookin

[faint rampart]

and for is2

[faint rampart]

5* only...

[chrome tangle]

i did it back at d15 🥹 (like 3 yrs ago)

[faint rampart]

trying to achieve your peak again

[chrome tangle]

false

i never peaked

the 5* IS4 ED4 run i did was kinda fun tho

[faint rampart]

:susge:

[faint rampart]

time to stalk your messages for draft ideas📝

[chrome tangle]

@faint rampart

i still remember

trying to burst down red

and that fucking failed so bad

[faint rampart]

bro

i already see -40ish💀

[chrome tangle]

i think i leaked every lion

[faint rampart]

but im no knowledgeable goober about ed4

[chrome tangle]

i lost the original file

[faint rampart]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/892650201142153226.gif

[chrome tangle]

🥀

[open finch]

That was when Jack wasn't washed 😔

[quick steppe]

2 + 2 doesnt have any no

[inland elbow]

Isn't legacy in 2*

[quick steppe]

is that true
let me see

i know crown is 3 + 3

ok just crown is fusable

the other 3 are not

[inland elbow]

Hm must've hallucinated

[faint rampart]

📝 greyalt s1 and, uhhh greythroat santalla start

[open finch]

Goated

[faint rampart]

rare fun to watch is4 clip

if only there wasnt a zero...

[chrome tangle]

-44

[somber stream]

Calculated.

[chrome tangle]

Askhually doe

[faint rampart]

seems exciting

[pure oyster]

For ending 2, now early do I need to find the decision node?

[paper notch]

the earlier the better if you are sure you can get the claw to half hp in an upcoming node

as long as you have some combat between you now and the floor 5 prophecy node, you can still beat the claw

[pure oyster]

yea i figured, i just tried to do this ending for the first time and i was dumb and arrived at the node with 2 ingots

[paper notch]

bosky combats work too

[pure oyster]

ohh really

[paper notch]

ye but it can be a bit harder

[pure oyster]

it took me quite awhile to find that time

[paper notch]

most of them are a bit tight on the dp and placements but if you're in a bosky you can use candles to beat claw

it can be a bit annoying tho in bosky fr

[tiny cosmos]

-44 lp

[arctic panther]

they're just going for the final lore bit of ed4 trust

[keen briar]

uh, how do u deal with the is6 zone 3 boss?
i put ranged units on the tiles, they got tped next to the boss somehow and die from that
tried using mlynar to defeat it, he gets stunned once the skill is ready
the hell do i do?

[rich thorn]

what stage?

[keen briar]

uh, is there more than 1 boss?

[rich thorn]

because there are like 6 diff

[keen briar]

ohh

[rich thorn]

yep

[keen briar]

does this not fit the description of one of them?

[rich thorn]

nope

[faint rampart]

fisherman?

[keen briar]

idk the stage nor the boss name

[rich thorn]

its either 3 dudes, flying woman or old fisherman

[brittle grove]

Probably fisherman alter

[rich thorn]

https://tomimi.dev/en/sui

use this

[quick steppe]

fisherman probably

[faint rampart]

😵‍💫 who else can tp your units...

[rich thorn]

true

🥀

enlightment then

alters are somehow really rare

[keen briar]

it was a stage that theres 4 tiles, once u place a ranged op on them they get tped to 2 tiles on the top, which theres an enemy on the middle there

those 4 tiles are with the yellow thingy too

[prime mountain]

Yeah sounds like fisherman

[brittle grove]

Told u so

[rich thorn]

wow, alter fisherman

[keen briar]

so, how do u deal with the fisherman boss

[prime mountain]

If you got alt variant

[keen briar]

that one

[rich thorn]

saw it like 1 or 2 times

[prime mountain]

If you get this just gg go again

Yeah its fucked

low chance of getting it at least

You got unlucky 🙁

[keen briar]

is there no way at all to deal with it tho?

[prime mountain]

Its really rough

[keen briar]

maybe just wisadel it?

[prime mountain]

If you have enough damage to kill the boss before the other enemies start spawning it can be manageable

[prime mountain]

Possibly idk dont use her

[keen briar]

its the only one that i can think of that would deal enough dmg, wont get stunned since its ranged and would survive cuz of the summons

[rich thorn]

on normal one im usually either rush with exu2 + another dps

or bait first wave of talismans and use wis/exu2

and start nuking

[prime mountain]

All the strats involve just rushing him asap cause if he starts teleporting throwers at you you're fucked

[rich thorn]

and im sure he cant fish units on piss tiles if he doesnt have space to place them

[faint rampart]

relicless clear link wher

[craggy shadow]

i think i hate IS6

[rich thorn]

[cunning talon]

Name checks out

[rich thorn]

why

[cunning talon]

I got bullied in is5 ed1, how do I avoid the boss tp-ing my units

[quick steppe]

you dont

thats just like
his thing

just blast him anyway because its ed1

[cunning talon]

Hmm, so I suppose I need to kill the coffins to unlock the redeploy

[prime mountain]

Summons dont get coffin'd

[quick steppe]

ya if you retreat or something dies the rdp timer is paused until the coffin is broken

[prime mountain]

do what you will with that info

[rich thorn]

can this game fucking not

tossing seal on me

[prime mountain]

Silver seal!!!!

[rich thorn]

strips ofk useless

or wait

kal

fuck

[cunning talon]

Is using Raidian in is5 even worth?
Is5 seems a squad check

[rich thorn]

idk

if you roll strips then easy use

s3 pretty good

[prime mountain]

Lmao no

Summons dont scale with king relics

[quick steppe]

is5 can be a pretty big box check if you're chasing it seriously

if you lack like m3 its like difficulty goes up a bunch

[cunning talon]

The start is pretty tough, but it’s the same for the rest of is ig

[quick steppe]

and then if you're missing strong drafts like trag for non lamp and hoe for lamp it gets another bit tougher

[cunning talon]

I actually have her, but I still couldn’t kill the boss at phase 2 😭

[prime mountain]

On ed1? While running lamp?

[cunning talon]

No lamp

[prime mountain]

Why

[quick steppe]

non lamp needs m3 even more tbh

[cunning talon]

Ngl, I don’t even know how to unlock the lamp, is it related to those squad buffs?

[prime mountain]

No dude

its a f1 encounter

[cunning talon]

I’ll check it rq

[prime mountain]

You get it every run

[cunning talon]

Damn I didn’t bother checking that 🥀

[quick steppe]

not guarenteed you can also randomly whiff it to slugkaz or whatever on f1 😔

[rich thorn]

im stupid, trag start can go mantragoida

[quick steppe]

you see the mantra start vision now

very good

[prime mountain]

Mantra start lmao no

just do trag

???

[quick steppe]

they share a hand 👀👀👀👀👀

[prime mountain]

Yeah but you still start trag

[rich thorn]

no handmix 👀👀👀👀

[quick steppe]

tech 👀👀👀👀

[rich thorn]

and logos with nymph

(fuck, we not gonna pick arthuria)

[prime mountain]

Nymph alone makes the hand worth

s2 goes hard

[quick steppe]

👀👀👀

[rich thorn]

🙏

[prime mountain]

Temp ange

Chronic highroll

[rich thorn]

hey

ines/hoshi/saki too

but no kal and monsta

[quick steppe]

👀👀👀👀

[pure oyster]

is wu-shang shuttle (reveals all trade nodes) useful for finding the decision node more quickly?

[rich thorn]

damn

[quick steppe]

lowkey mantra can replace true damage in this kind of draft

[rich thorn]

someone should make mantragodia is5 guide

[quick steppe]

you just use mantra s2 for thresis instead

[tiny cosmos]

What is this 👀

[quick steppe]

mantra start trees 👀👀👀

[tiny cosmos]

Ahhhh lmao amazing

[quick steppe]

but also yes just start tragodia normally

[tiny cosmos]

Looks like they could’ve pulled trag on the start of floor 2

[quick steppe]

mantra start is mainly because i dont actually have mantra
but also you get gummy and may(good operators) instead of humus and myrrh(bad operators) when you start mantra so

[rich thorn]

also this shit is in 2+2 pool

[south token]

Not gonna lie, I genuinely think I have better chances at 100%ing IS2's castle notes before I ever beat Lucian other than collecting all the HP available and just eating the whole fight

[rich thorn]

op

[prime mountain]

Show roster

[quick steppe]

surely ed1 cannot be that serious

[sly harness]

[rich thorn]

but a fucking lament in 3+3

[sly harness]

Use Phantom against Phantom

We are in 2026

[south token]

Am I supposed to screenshot you everyone I own overall

[sly harness]

The alter one that is

[quick steppe]

krooster

[prime mountain]

Most of your impactful built ones, screenshots compact here its fine

[sly harness]

IS2 used to be winnable with 3* only

[quick steppe]

still is just play on low diff for that old experience

[rich thorn]

@quick steppe m6 mantra time ye?

[quick steppe]

ya probably

finding a good s2m3 one might be hard not a lot of mantra believers

or run without mantra(also completely fine and doable and probably better)

[prime mountain]

NOOOOOOOOOOOO

Fuck if I e2'd gummy instead he would be dead

[craggy shadow]

omg

[quick steppe]

mantra would have saved that

[rich thorn]

i mean, i can m6 now

[craggy shadow]

finally something good in IS6

[rich thorn]

[sly harness]

Pillars where

[prime mountain]

Ros still e1 this is talons

Do you do shop instead of first fight to e2 ros?

[quick steppe]

ya probably grab s2m3 since s3 doesn't actually scale well

[sly harness]

No

Shop on f2

[quick steppe]

pivot to trag

[rich thorn]

sorry, i rushed and made s3m3 first

[sly harness]

f1 shop into combat

[prime mountain]

Shop > fight > amiya encounter f2?

[quick steppe]

no thats normal its her better skill outside of IS

lowkey i believe talons ingots can wait until f4 even to grab amiya encounter theres no rush

[sly harness]

The first floor is 3 combats and Talons

[quick steppe]

you're playing ingots you dont need the ghost collectibles + you have the added talons boosted ghost pressure on your opener

so just wait and then explode it all in one floor later
easier too because you refresh into more fights

[prime mountain]

idk man all my ingot runs end up dead on like f3 because I have fuck all relics

[quick steppe]

withdraw more money

or start tragodia

[prime mountain]

I have fuck all relics because the shops are still ass somehow

[quick steppe]

both very good options

[sly harness]

You don't need relics on f3

[rich thorn]

reroll till rare relics upgrade shows

ez

[prime mountain]

I swear I see the +3ingots one like 80% of the time

this shit is rigged

[quick steppe]

+3 ingots is def more common than the others

but start with a more human e1
like eblana or logos :)))

known good e1 operators

amiya start even

[prime mountain]

tf do they do on 245

[prime mountain]

I do that when no hope start

[quick steppe]

eblana so goated
does everything

and then logos is a bug but you can still wriggle through early game fine enough

[prime mountain]

IT IS RIGGED

Man fuck

[rich thorn]

known e1 good op starts

[quick steppe]

mantra!

[rich thorn]

leizi2 but no mantra

[quick steppe]

mantra leaning toward meme 😔

[south token]

Thorns and Necrass E2
Not sure about being able to call the rest as impactful as them, but let's say them both are the strongest I have and built
Like I definetely have invested in a lot of operators, like E2 Click with skill 2 spec3 and I don't rely just on those two, but yeah, they both are my the toppest

[quick steppe]

but eblana is actually a usable e1 start

old ingots start strategy

strong en route and then holds left side quilon(the final copium)

no hand too

important for tree lamp

[prime mountain]

Right but I'm running ingots

[sly harness]

Thorns is relatively strong in IS2 on low diffs

You should easily be able to reach the boss with him

[prime mountain]

Draft a boss killer like lemuen or exu2 or wishadel or something and you're fine (you can borrow when you start a run)

[south token]

Yes, but the boss stage itself is the problem

[quick steppe]

angelina tragodia go

[rich thorn]

ew

handmix

[quick steppe]

hands in is2

[rich thorn]

and ange with book

oh

ye

my brain is in is5

[quick steppe]

ange is just hand no book

many are enjoying angehoe tacfort

[sly harness]

Do you know boss mechanics?

[pure oyster]

is shaw realistically useful in cliff of geists

[sly harness]

Kinda

[pure oyster]

it seems you could put her on one of those spots

[sly harness]

The best free draft for that stage

[pure oyster]

but i doubt she can push a car

i happen to have her from needing a yan op

[rich thorn]

you can block cars with raidian s1

if not banned her

[slate hull]

I think I remember being disappointed that the only thing you get from pushing enemies in holes is extra ingots, but it is still fun to do anyway

[rich thorn]

some even jump into holes by themself

cuz fucked up pathing

[pure oyster]

they are drunk

[outer cliff]

Dont all the mobs except the cars path into holes if u can keep the cars from picking them up

[rich thorn]

nope, not all

[slate hull]

nah, I definitely had some dudes who reached almost all the way to the blue box

[pure oyster]

oh really? i can kill the bottom cars, but if i block the top car incursion point, it also blocks the durins from going into the middle maze area

[pure oyster]

ooh

yea idk why i didn't think of that spot

what do i do about the cars coming from top right

[sly harness]

Like 9 of them kill themselves if you just kill the cars

[sly harness]

Spawn camp

Raidian S3 facing up

[pure oyster]

oh ok

easy enough

oh no my shaw is still e1

i guess it doesn't really matter

[sly harness]

Ye e1 should work

[pure oyster]

i got every durin

thanks for the advice yall

[sly harness]

[pure oyster]

54 ingots for pushing the durins.. not bad

[sly harness]

Do you know that you can block shift the big guy into the hole?

[pure oyster]

i didn't try it

[sly harness]

If you block him (without fear collectibles) he will just fall into a hole

[pure oyster]

(no i didnt know)

[paper notch]

he's slightly off center yee

[pure oyster]

does the foot appear in face-off?

i finally found the decision node (in the visit to bosky right before f5)

there aren't a ton of combat nodes left :/

oh, oh no

feast of fruit encounter... i feel like this would be dangerous

[rich thorn]

nah

[sly harness]

Just bait him before setting up anything serious

[pure oyster]

i have never fought the foot before

and also i have trouble with the feast of fruit stage

i always seem to leak some of the whiteblue flowers

[cunning talon]

You only need to lower the hp to half.
As Lukas said, just bait him

[pure oyster]

Should I swap out any of my ops

hmm maybe fear would be useful for the whiteblue flowers

[sly harness]

It can help but Raidian S2 + Exu2 S3 generally easily clears them

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1gH8bzdE2x/

[pure oyster]

the problem i have with them is they run into the thicket before i can kill them and then my blockers get knocked out

[sly harness]

Here is some example of a clear, nothing super optimized but sufficient

[pure oyster]

Watching

Is exu s3 relevant

[sly harness]

A bit, hits faster and you can use the gimmick to throw an extra blocker

Generally if you can't kill the blue flowers fast you can retreat the stunned/about to be stunned blocking body and place a now one

You need to be quite fast to do it in time

Leizi S1 is also good

Wait for the flower to be directly below her and she can even oneshot

And she doesn't get the Elemental damage when in the air

[pure oyster]

video was helpful... i'm gonna try it

[prime mountain]

IS5 faceoff moment 😭

I forgot I had king's staff and trag s1 prob wouldve cleared

[pure oyster]

raidian is so good for these ones imo

[prime mountain]

Raidian in is5 is not real

for d18 245

[pure oyster]

untrue :p