is-station

[brazen bane]

build both 5* agent they are good

[toxic frost]

I don't have ines

[remote badger]

canta and surfer

[brazen bane]

[remote badger]

ines is quite hope dependant

[toxic frost]

I see, I've never used surfer though so I never read her skills

Why is she good?

I mean how is she good?

[brazen bane]

she's an agent

[remote badger]

look at her mod

[toxic frost]

I see.

[brazen bane]

S1 is good for countering -initial sp debuff from ed3 (same for Canta)

S2 makes her somewhat tanky for early

being agents, their dp regen scale on atkspd

which is not hard to come by

[toxic frost]

I haven't built both at all, which one should I build first?

[brazen bane]

whoever you like

I use Canta more cus of her pretty skin

[gleaming jewel]

so are you implying her default art is not pretty !?

[toxic frost]

Canta IS pretty

[brazen bane]

prettier

[brazen bane]

[toxic frost]

This kinda made me realize I barely build fiverstars at all.

(The only five stars I built are amiya,ptilposis specter nd avemuji)

[brazen bane]

5 stars are very cool in IS6 because they cost 0 hope at Pathfinder (1 at high ascension)

[gleaming jewel]

hi i'm here on behalf of nobody to shill greyy2 to you

[sly harness]

Lets be precise Cantabile or Surfer (stuff like Sneg and other 5* are fake)

[brazen bane]

I did say 5* agent no

[gleaming jewel]

puzzle

[brazen bane]

is there another one

right

I actually forgot he existed

[gleaming jewel]

yeah he exists XD

[toxic frost]

I forgot puzzle exists too.

[brazen bane]

[toxic frost]

The only reason why I remembered him is when I received is skin

[sly harness]

I meant to reply to that, but ye

[toxic frost]

He's cool

[brazen bane]

he's hot

[sly harness]

And also Chilchuck

[civic tinsel]

I love IS6 ED2

[gleaming jewel]

#help would shoot you for this

[sly harness]

You wasted at least 5 Candles

ed2 can be only in 5x5 grid

So ignore everything outside it

Especially Retrieves

[brazen bane]

definitely here

because fuck you

[gleaming jewel]

literally happened to me 😭

[sly harness]

Only 4 candles needed (they wasted 5 )

[boreal island]

Besides bilibili, is there any other site that collects IS runs? Just curious if the CN side has solved the IS2 D15 big sad lock without the note.

[sly harness]

(the 3 Retrieves on the left, Leisure in the upper right corner and retrieve on the right)

[outer cliff]

question, does big sad lock's arts aoe trigger retaliate dmg

[civic tinsel]

Thats…actually new information for me lol

Cause so far I only know ED2 spawns in corners

[sly harness]

Yes, I have seen at least 3 relicless solutions (ofc all without note). I can link them all if you want

[sly harness]

And it is completely fake

[boreal island]

yes plz!

[grizzled nexus]

Will Sand Voyager in Beyond Mount and Sea gonna enter blue box? I mean how many round of circling before they enter it?

[brazen bane]

btw is it just me or the sand storm risk coin much rarer now

havent seen it even once since dlc1

[sly harness]

Double Exu burst
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1M4N7z4E4v/
5 ops (Mizuki, Angelina, Narantuya, Shu, Swire)
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1woyaB6EBt/
Saki burst
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1AsyfB7EoX/

[boreal island]

tyvm!!

[sly harness]

The first 4 that spawn on the left do 2 cirlcels
The ones spawned by Statuegeist only circles ones

[civic tinsel]

No ED2 means I have to bully Ji…again

[gaunt bay]

it looks like shes rearranging him 😭

[pastel saffron]

Lore accurate Saki Chan

[late pecan]

Uh what happens with this one?

[sly harness]

it gives you +10 Ingots, how broken

[late pecan]

This is a scam LMAO

Aight I skip it then

[sly harness]

to do anything else it requires very specific coin setups

or being very lucky

[faint rampart]

wow you're back

[pastel saffron]

omg ellets

took me a min

to recognize you

wait ur ellets right

[boreal island]

The guy with the mizuki and angelina is beyond insane, so many stacked enemy HP buffs, and they just rng tank it... and regen the explosions. Not even Mousse, I'm speechless. Anyway, time to try the Sakiko strat.

[sly harness]

Narantuya attack steal is kinda big against this boss because it works on base stats (before any modifiers)

[boreal island]

oooo, also didn't know swire had an IS module, what's it do?

[sly harness]

New trait:

In Integrated Strategies, DP consumed when deployed or on the battlefield -30%, and for every 1 DP consumed by this unit, the shortest remaining Redeployment Timer in the Deployment Waiting Zone -2s

Big Spendthrift improved:

Gains 1 Coin upon skill activation (can be spent through skills). While a skill is active, gains 1 Coin each time DP is consumed by this unit's Trait, and +4% ATK (stacks up to 8 times); in Integrated Strategies, Coin limit +5, every Originium Ingot owned increases ATK stack limit by 1 (max to 60 stacks), and gains 1 additional Coin and 3 ATK stacks whenever Trait consumes DP

Attributes increased: HP +320, ATK +80

[faint rampart]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/902953181754032198/1390957578351284265/421c3a45086f9ac088258fcd5f91d1d6.gif

[boreal island]

so stack 60 ingots and you get... 4*60=240% atk?

[snow hearth]

playing now, body of sui doesnt appear for after few battle 😭

[boreal island]

it depends on the battle, how many did you do that it didn't appear on?

[sly harness]

to be honest I'm not sure about the number ... but I know that with S3 she is a good damage dealer. e.g. she was used in IS6 before dlc1 against ed2 as a boss killer (assuming Exu2 ban), back when highrolls weren't so common

[snow hearth]

only 2 battle it appears,
then it doesnt appear anymore,
i am now in floor 5,
1 last battle before the boss, hope it will appear

[sly harness]

it appears in almost every fight until you kill it

maybe you killed it. Are you sure you didn't get that second collectible?

the Carved Inkstick Remnant

[snow hearth]

nope, dont have

[boreal island]

Yes, in a less buff saturated environment that sounds crazy good, and loses value when more buffs are added, cause beyond big numbers it's nothing major. It's basically if we could control Phantom S2 so he only attacked at high atk. And if he wasn't made of paper.

[sly harness]

you have it (scond row)

[snow hearth]

god damn it, i am blindddddddd

[boreal island]

you accidently killed it lol

[snow hearth]

thankssssssssssssss

wish me luck fighting the boss

why no more sniper recruit😭

[boreal island]

waltah S2 on the left trust.

[sly harness]

she also has this gimmick of shortening the redeployment time of other operators, but as far as I know it doesn't have any standout applications (it was a bit useful in IS6 ed2 to cycle some stuff better)

[sly harness]

Raidian + Exu solves most of the stage

those two + -17 tech is a very chill clear

[brazen bane]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/668993308537651200/1487380495208677406/image.png?ex=69cf8608&is=69ce3488&hm=953098ebbf325707535bad81b9a6e0a9567272d80a4fa029dcbde723536e65b2

I mean to be fair

"phantom S2 but can't die" is a big step up from normal Phantom S2

[sly harness]

Phantom doesn't eat ⅔ of your DP

[snow hearth]

thank god for the shop before the boss

[brazen bane]

she doesn't eat that much if you dont just let her stay forever

for some crazy reason

[gaunt bay]

something something retreating doesnt refund dp

[remote umbra]

Use chongus yapping 20 times

[brazen bane]

not a big deal, IS mod gave her -30% consumption already

not to mention her dp consumption turns into faster deployment for other units

[snow hearth]

holy shit, that was hardd

[boreal island]

left leaks?

[snow hearth]

yeah mostly

[boreal island]

a win is a win, gg

[gaunt bay]

its a pretty big deal 💀

[brazen bane]

sure if you say so

[boreal island]

holy big numbers, it's time to build yet another operator, purely for IS.

[brazen bane]

I just rarely found IS6 to be that harsh unless there's multiple dp debuff being stacked together

[sly harness]

ed5

[brazen bane]

[sly harness]

But ye in IS6 I don't see a reason to pick Phantom over Swire

[brazen bane]

thats a different game

[sly harness]

But IS6 is not the only IS

And in other ISes generally Phantom performance is better

(although still mainly used in relicless)

[errant siren]

+ combo

[faint rampart]

my goat used in sentinel
swire could never😢

[errant siren]

🥹

I now get it how to play Wang without any proper healer whatsoever.

Maaaaaaaan.

[brazen bane]

Just high roll

[cunning talon]

Shield stacking op

[late pecan]

Bro does not have any healing with the relic debuff lmao

Well there's Podenco...

You barely survived somehow

I mightve over prepared for IS6 Ed3

Raidian max module unlocked!

IS is really fun ngl

[rich thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/omni-man-omni-man-are-you-sure-are-you-sure-invincible-gif-3935116808772397515

[late pecan]

yes

Even if I fail, at least I learnt something lol

[rich thorn]

I`ll correct

IS6 is fun now

IS4 and IS3 are not

[steel relic]

Is4 is literally the best one

[rich thorn]

and IS5 on d18

[rich thorn]

Didnt said its bad, just not fun as - IS6 unga bunga obliderate bosses

[steel relic]

Unga bunga obliterate boss is boring

This is why is5 sucked after dlc 1

[rich thorn]

but its literally what happens on IS6 now

[steel relic]

Maybe is6 is bad too

[rich thorn]

but recovered after dlc2

[steel relic]

Nah

[gaunt bay]

? Is5 pre dlc1 bosses were all also unga bunga obliterated

[rich thorn]

but there was no lamp

!

[gaunt bay]

Quilon and amiya are decently interesting its just severe statbloat

[sly harness]

IS3 is fun

[sly harness]

This is why IS5 = 245 runs. nothing else

[woeful knot]

ur lying to urself

amiya was interesting and had a good boss design

quilon was just a statcheck boss bruh

[sly harness]

Ye Talons + Blueprint runs, how fun... 3 hours of scaling to either die to EM Crimson corridor because you drafted non meta stuff/nothing to specifically solve it or just an boring f5+ experience

[woeful knot]

this mf could have been the ed3 boss

[sly harness]

The boats mechanic is nice though

[woeful knot]

good boat mechanic so it can take you to the sloppier map 2 fight

kill is5 bruh

[faint rampart]

how broken

[sly harness]

But the idea of splitting the squad into two and generally the introduction of 2 different maps were nice

and don't forget that most of the players most likely never killed the boss (they just leaked him)

[faint rampart]

🤨

[open finch]

Good ending

[proven dagger]

new chain medic is sentinel tech

🚬

[proven dagger]

I think quilon is interesting cuz of the boats and healing mechanic

but too bad one of his abilities is mob spam

🥹

[rich thorn]

except boats on ed2

personally dont like their pathing

[open finch]

Ed2 is rly cringe imo

Esp alt with boat

Like I guess bro

[sly harness]

they are the only thing that makes ed2 interesting

[rich thorn]

• looks inside
  ah yes, half of mechanics are punish players, part is not even working

[sly harness]

But alter ed2 is a mess, true

[rich thorn]

and light just exists

also, -15 light on start and +1 hope cost TO FUCKING ALL 3* AND ABOVE

[proven dagger]

alter ed2 is just funny in concept

[rich thorn]

its cringe to see 3* with 1 hope

[open finch]

That's not so bad tbh

None of the 3*s offer significant advantage over reserve

[proven dagger]

ed2: https://youtu.be/mObe6Qy6Nrc?si=Lz2SAebK0CK3k1AK

[sly harness]

but the 1* meta is great

[open finch]

Like fang is worthless spot is worthless kroos is worthless

[rich thorn]

but its still weird

[open finch]

I guess yea

[rich thorn]

as what, d3?

debuff

[open finch]

Feels bad

Especially coming from is5/6 context

[rich thorn]

d4 sorry

[sly harness]

It doesn't change anything. You either are a d0 sloper or play max difficulty

[rich thorn]

even is4 or is2 doesnt do that thb

[brittle grove]

Just bit mspd or smt

[open finch]

Lukas is a highrolling slopper

What does that make him

[rich thorn]

#1348420542591664238 message

[sly harness]

[rich thorn]

is3 is slop

[sly harness]

Maybe

[rich thorn]

ngl

[sly harness]

But not worse then IS4

[rich thorn]

the fact of floor buffs exists

[sly harness]

Or a current state of IS6

[rich thorn]

but they are random, only at 100 light, and -15 light at start

with ed3 and ed4 relics

and not so many light increase ways

is way too stupid

[sly harness]

Okay but we have those types of things in every IS

[rich thorn]

we are? mechanics what you will never see past d9?

[sly harness]

Like IS6 post dlc2
Hours of Sui - mostly meaningless
Talisman - mostly meaningless

So what debuffs not working are fine?

But buffs not working are the problem?

[rich thorn]

the buffs/debuffs what you not even gonna see

and idk about dlc2 is6 and what mess they made there

[brittle grove]

Too many carrots fr

[rich thorn]

oh and the funniest thing

they are not even so good

its more of a part - why they made it and literally killed instantly

and I can say ok with is2 as earliest one and is3 as a massive jump in development

[sly harness]

because the average player plays ed1 on d0?

[rich thorn]

its just, even if compare to next IS4, there is not so many tools for a player to get advantage over game

foldatars prob the coolest thing they made in IS modes

because they are good, but they are still random

not as talons/lamp

[steel relic]

Are you talking about enlightenments

Cuz calls don’t care about light

Enlightenments are whatever you either get the SP one or they don’t matter

[sinful sparrow]

gotta respect the approach

eliminate everything and let players scale

without hours to worry

or sth

[woeful knot]

its funny how is3 filters every mf known to man

wcyd when an endgame mode is actually hard for once

this is why its peak

[woeful knot]

🚬 yeah the use of boats were definitely good

but quilon himself wasnt

also you dont even feel the healing mechanic :icant: since ur dpsing and healing ur units anyways

[sly harness]

you don't feel it until you get there without max HP and you get oneshot by explosions

[woeful knot]

highroll more bro....

[sly harness]

kinda slop

I hope that IS7 won't go in this direction (I can't imagine how that would look like)

[woeful knot]

would be nice if they took a break with the relic slop

idt players can take anymore of this shit

especially when is6 isnt even well received in cn

[sinful sparrow]

riel or faek

[woeful knot]

riel

[sly harness]

I hope that's true. But I have the impression that relic slop is rather positively received by the average player

[woeful knot]

is4 d18 instead pls

[cunning karma]

Is6 isn't well received in cn because dlc0 is ass

[faint rampart]

do u have a guide on how to get 10000 kettles
i wanna highroll and feel good🤧

[sinful sparrow]

no bruh relicslop is not

because relicslop just gives designers the excuse to make inhuman stats

and then average players eat shit

joyplush

i cant wait for mfs to complain about d12 Shuo being hard

😢

[brazen bane]

Avg player touch d12?

[faint rampart]

the honorable d12 medal creatur—

[brazen bane]

If you care about that you are not average

[faint rampart]

🤔

i guess

avg player prolly gets levels and dip

[brazen bane]

Gets filtered by bosky stat doubling at like d7

If even that

But yea dlc0 is ass
So many ppl complain maxing Raidian is too hard

[faint rampart]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/668197203642417193.png?size=48

[sly harness]

dlc0 was the most balanced version of IS6

[cunning karma]

Well it's definitely not fun for casual players to get blocked everywhere

[sly harness]

Like dlc1 makes me think that Saki is a decent unit

It is awful

[cunning karma]

[brazen bane]

Dlc0 makes me wanna die as soon as Raidian get banned

[cunning karma]

Rude

[brazen bane]

It's horrible

[wide rover]

Is my team good enough for words past like smoke on guided tour 8

[sly harness]

Do you have the LPs to leak left?

[wide rover]

What does LP mean

Mb still kinda new to this

[sly harness]

Life Points

[wide rover]

Oh he

Got like 30

[sly harness]

You are fine

[wide rover]

Kk should I focus on first and second lane?

[sly harness]

Ignore the left lane

It is not worth the effort

[wide rover]

Ok

[cunning karma]

It's just easier to ignore the left lane unless you got crazy attack speed

[faint rampart]

🤨

[sly harness]

Or just draft a unit that can solve it

[wide rover]

Kk once I kill the hand will it summon a new boss or do I just gotta clean up

[sly harness]

But the -17 is just safe and comfortable

Just cleanup but the boss has a bit of HP so you won't kill him fats unless you rolled high

[wide rover]

Ok thx

[sly harness]

Also when his HP drops to 50% he will retreat everything from the field

Watch out for that

Speed

[wide rover]

Killed hand now do I just gotta kill the other 20 enemies?

[sly harness]

yes

gg

[wide rover]

Kk thx a lot

[wide rover]

Just watched the story after fight and was confused what chapter does this story take place in?

[proven dagger]

its moreso that they're placed in convenient locations

[sly harness]

yes... this game has a story (no idea, I'm just here for the gameplay)

Flower Squad 23 + 4 debuff with gvg draft

[faint rampart]

:roshype: congrats

[sly harness]

Also double EM f1

[brazen bane]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1287981429963100281/1423895108712927334/IMG_5956.gif

Desuwa

[arctic panther]

its supposed to take place after the entire sui storyline(minus wang i think) and repeat every year

[wide rover]

Ok

Thx

[rich thorn]

play other modes lmao, SSS or RA

or new lets overbuff old stages

[woeful knot]

😪

why would i play those

its clearly you who should do that

[open finch]

sss is so useless beyond first clear reward 😔

Also imagine nerfing supporter spam but actually making it stronger

Couldn't be hg

[rich thorn]

then what you count as break from relic slop

if IS is fully a relic slop mode

[open finch]

It wasn't always this way..

[steel relic]

It’s not?

[open finch]

is4 wasn't this way

[steel relic]

Is5/6 are relic slop

2/3/4 aren’t

[woeful knot]

newgens rewriting history

[rich thorn]

IS6 is tongbao slop

[exotic tangle]

What relic slop

[open finch]

Senz lived through the endless bickering about Schwarz in is3

He's a knower

[rich thorn]

surely -45% enemy hp is healthy

[woeful knot]

my schwarz is still m6 mod6 to this day

and i cant take that back

[open finch]

HAHAHAHAHAHA

Wait

Not m6?

[steel relic]

[woeful knot]

m6 bro

[open finch]

Not a true disciple

[exotic tangle]

It's only slop if i can do endings reliably

[open finch]

Now that's my goat

[woeful knot]

mistyped

[exotic tangle]

However i'd like to say fuck end4 is5

[open finch]

This is why we like senz

Fib probably doesn't have Schwarz raised

[exotic tangle]

Schwarz is3

You are too old bro

It's time to move on

[open finch]

[exotic tangle]

I think i still have her s2m3

Sth sth covering 2 lanes

[open finch]

I still have hope (cope) that is7 will be better

[remote badger]

kermy i think we're both old

[halcyon flame]

Not even m9 smh

[exotic tangle]

Was funny

[rich thorn]

[open finch]

But with ops like trag that fundamentally break the game

Idk if that's gonna happen

[exotic tangle]

Ok i could never get s1m3 angle

Maybe there was never any s1 angle

[open finch]

S1 wasn't an angle ever sadge

[rich thorn]

you cant undo trag with wis and exu2

[open finch]

But s2 angle was kinda interesting

[remote badger]

u can

[open finch]

Then Ray happened and like

gg

[remote badger]

by banning them

[exotic tangle]

Schwarz has better cycle

Surely she's better

Ray takes too long and needs her summon

[rich thorn]

i mean, devs prob make stages/modes with new ops counting

[exotic tangle]

Ass rdp time

[exotic tangle]

False

Tongbao is the best mechanic

Just toss coins!

[rich thorn]

and if you saying just ban them, then all complainings are false, because you can just ban relics and ops

[exotic tangle]

Enjoy piss tiles

[rich thorn]

[exotic tangle]

Honestly the real slop is bosky

😡

[rich thorn]

mechanic yes, but not some tongbaos by themself

[faint rampart]

true, lets take away bosky so non raidian squads get cooked at f3 boss (non class)

[rich thorn]

dlc2 gives more piss tiles tongbaos or no?

[exotic tangle]

No

I like my evasion tongbao

Until they don't work

[gleaming jewel]

Is this a bad joke?

What exactly am i supposed to do?

[sly harness]

kill Sui and solo it with 0 DP e2 Hoshi

[gleaming jewel]

They don't even let me deploy

[sly harness]

relicless you can deploy stuff that cost 12 DP max

[gleaming jewel]

Can you elaborate?

[brazen bane]

roll 99 DP coin

[rich thorn]

leg gives 0 dp relic

[sly harness]

or 11*

[rich thorn]

just pick only hoshi

and have 0 dp hoshi2

[gleaming jewel]

I'm not well versed in the terminology here, what's "leg"?

[rich thorn]

ed2 boss

[sly harness]

have you done ed2?

[faint rampart]

game encouraging players to not be ed1 spammers

[rich thorn]

ofk, ed2a easier than some other endings

can stall

[paper notch]

this is trully the fuck around and find out stage and most people found out on their first blind attempt

[rich thorn]

no 3 lanes

[gleaming jewel]

Yeah, once or twice

[faint rampart]

😵‍💫 how did 2a got here...

[sly harness]

so there are 2 ed2 collectibles. 1st cost 30 Ingots and spawns the leg, if you down the leg to 50% HP you get second collectible

[gleaming jewel]

Ah

[sly harness]

the scond one makes 1 opertor cost 0 DP

[gleaming jewel]

Yeah and that second collectible gives the buff?

[gleaming jewel]

I see i see

[slate hull]

before dlc1 the ink relic did nothing, but now it gives you 0dp on a random op

[sly harness]

no

it was always a thing

[gleaming jewel]

inb4 i get 0 dp on haruka

well

thanks, now i know

though for sure can't do it this run

[sly harness]

that is why once you get it enter this stage with only 1 or 2 ops sapable of doing anything

[gleaming jewel]

floor 4 end and i have yet to reveal the decision node that i was looking for anyway lol

[gleaming jewel]

oh it's not a permanent buff? brb going to wiki.gg

en shall learn to read one day

[sly harness]

There are also many other collectibles that can help you solve this stage but the ed2 one is the most consistent because you can get them in every run

[sly harness]

it is randomly selected every time you enter the stage

[cunning karma]

Raidian+Chamber of Geists Ledger
ezpz

Heard that Cantabile works too but I've never tried it

[robust grail]

hi iss

[rich thorn]

🥹

[sick mason]

Oof

Maybe if u get Avarice you'll do fine?

[remote badger]

lol

[earnest shuttle]

demon summoning turmoil

[rich thorn]

it worked

[sick mason]

If only u have enough LP

[cunning karma]

There's a legend node, you know what it is

Yes, Coin Geists

[rich thorn]

stove is funny

ngl

[dim oar]

This ice breaking game is worst than IS. My ally can’t roll the boat

[open finch]

Was this one the one with the +initial sp squad

Or am thinking of the previous season

Like +initial sp and device to refresh rdp

I looked through it and I didn't play this season on cn gg

[sick mason]

Whoa chill

Its a brand new gamemode in icebreaker so ofc not everyone can just get the hang of it so easily

[fading ravine]

hey how do i deal with the nails on left side in 2nd ending in is5

[quick steppe]

…there are nails?

[fading ravine]

lost like a lot of run cuz of it

the small thing

[faint rampart]

sui IS?

[fading ravine]

that fly and cant be block

yea

[faint rampart]

thats is6

[fading ravine]

oh shit mb

[quick steppe]

leak them all ideally

[faint rampart]

use operators who have high hitcount like uhh

yeah actually just leak

[quick steppe]

unless you have a strong hitcount operator like ente or ascalon

[fading ravine]

[faint rampart]

-17

[quick steppe]

it’s easiest just to leak 17

[fading ravine]

is ethan enough

plus idek how the foot targets

[quick steppe]

you’d need a lot of buffs

[faint rampart]

angelina, leizi2 works i heard

[late pecan]

By leak, we mean completely ignore them. Dont even kill the flaming swords enemies

[sick mason]

Surprisingly Wisadel S2 can do it too

[late pecan]

U dont want to spawn them from 1 into x4 lives lost lmao

[sick mason]

I mean holy crap she's definitely the fastest apparition hitcount destroyer

[quick steppe]

yes the skill that hits like 9 times per attack is good at hit count

[faint rampart]

ooh how broken

[late pecan]

Basically Raidian s2, Wis s2 and Exu2 s2 hitcounts pretty well. Ethan very strong hitcount too

If dealing with Ware geists

[late pecan]

3 x 3 area of most operators, prioritizes from bottom left corner

[faint rampart]

theres a doc in pins by Mika, could check it for ops recommendations and foot targeting (oops already answered)

[fading ravine]

so social distance everyone and let 2 frd die in middle?

[late pecan]

You got that right. Also, summons count too so...

Raidian Exu2 solves the ED2

[dim oar]

Problem is I cant solo rolling the boat like I can do that with the foot ball

[fading ravine]

oh yea i kinda slept on raidian nowadays

thats cool thanks

[late pecan]

Wdym by that

[slate hull]

it is not a 3x3, it targets one operator (the one with the biggest number of units around it)

[rich thorn]

oh, so cannot tongbao works on both shops

op

[remote badger]

this thing is understandable

when u just need to know exactly

1 computer science algorithm

[late pecan]

It hits everything in 3 x 3 area around that one op, and also it is the most operator being counted in the centre and forces retreat

[remote badger]

or a problem

[fading ravine]

like i got to diff 13 with raidian the entire time... she kinda boring since feels like other ops scales more goofy than her

only ending 1 though cuz i suck

[late pecan]

I mean Raidian is quite literally the server admin for IS6

Exu2 comes close with how well she handles Turmoil nodes in early Wonderland

[fading ravine]

yeaa first few floors is very easy just not really fun if i didnt get the deployment limit summon thing later on

[late pecan]

Tragodia for obvious Ed1 cheese

(Not enough damage for Turmoils tho)

[fading ravine]

[rich thorn]

<@&586570970345635868>

robux

[remote badger]

<@&586570970345635868>

[open finch]

No way free robux

[ornate hare]

omg vbucks

[open finch]

Finally

[fading ravine]

oh this is mods thing cool

[cunning karma]

genius

[open finch]

Mods coming in to smite him 😔

All he wanted was to spread his scam I mean robux

[fading ravine]

mods crush this person head pretty please

[sick mason]

Bruh

Nice attempt

[rich thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/natsuhi-ushiromiya-umineko-no-naku-koro-ni-qazira-umineko-when-they-cry-umienko-gif-18374072941865206120

[remote badger]

why its so slow

[rich thorn]

ok, stove is good

can make retrieve nodes into +1 relic

[worn falcon]

What skill does Rosmontis use in IS?

[rich thorn]

usually S2, S1 with sirakuza/spinach or cannot rob f5 IS5

[open finch]

s3 for ember phalanx/gravestone in is3!

[sly harness]

Hoshi is better at it. Exu can easily get DPH checked relicless

[rich thorn]

saw bait guide, s3 good for elucive merc!

[sly harness]

Exu is mainly there to make ed2 piss easy

[sly harness]

S2 is better for rob . The CC will be helpful below 50% HP

[worn falcon]

Man...

[sly harness]

And she can auto the first half

[sly harness]

And Frequent Disputes

S2 >> S3 is the masteries prio

With S3 being niche but kinda masteries dependant when it is used

(because insane SP cost )

[faint rampart]

i see, so m9📝

[sly harness]

imo skip S1 (can they fix those skins? )

[grim portal]

I'd like to try to get all relics on an IS6 run, any tips on what to?

[cunning karma]

Flower squad

[sly harness]

It is not possible, give up play normally

[grim portal]

[sly harness]

(it is literally not possible since some encounters specific stuff and different collectibles pools)

[prime mountain]

Go infinite f2, reroll every node into an encounter afterwards?

Sounds like a challenge to see how many unique ones you can get

[sly harness]

Still e.g. stamps collector

[faint rampart]

is6 dlc1 so slop this is the new challenge 😢

[prime mountain]

Right you'd only be able to get one of these, outside of that though what else would there be? Some legend ones would be giga rng to get

[sly harness]

All promote books

All tactical props

[grim portal]

so it's a real challenge for this kind of things? looks like i'm too addicted to IS6

[prime mountain]

Tact props you can get from shops no? and technically that one coin that gives you a random one?

[grim portal]

1 relic that give you random

[visual smelt]

Do I get anything for destroying the dragon mouth spawner things?

[sly harness]

You can't get both second collectibles for ed3 and ed4

[cunning karma]

4 ingots

[prime mountain]

Where's that one is5 relic when you need it 😭

Wait

No that was toughts

[grim portal]

pleasure, that flying tickets wont annoy you the rest of the battle

[prime mountain]

mhmmm

[sly harness]

But get a random one =/= a collectibles (also they are only available in F1 shop I think)

[prime mountain]

Arent they just rare? Thats how it worked in previous IS at least

Like not guaranteed to show up

Replaces a relic when they do

[sly harness]

You can drop them randomly from combat (I think, not sure)

But you are not getting all of them

They have some separated pool

[prime mountain]

Oh what

[sly harness]

And they most likely won't come above the kettles

And once again all those pools

[prime mountain]

I mean just rng better clearly

solves all problems

Cause they did drop from battles in previous IS, again no idea about is6

[sly harness]

Like I cleared the ling loop pool and was still getting stuff from animals and in a normal shop

And the shop also has different pools for different slots or something like this

[prime mountain]

Yeah but you can get the shop reroll coin too to get some extras, simply get shop coin + bosky coin and alternate to do bosky > refill shop coin from infinite > shop > bosky

[sly harness]

Since ever refresh only half of it was Kettles and half something else

[prime mountain]

Also didnt CN do this in is5 seeded run? Surely they tried it in is6 too right?

[rich thorn]

dont forget about 3 new relics from encounter

still need min 3 runs for all relics

[cunning karma]

It doesn't work this way, there's a relic that let you refresh infinitely but all you will see are kettles

[prime mountain]

Yeah I understand you're not getting them all just theorycrafting about getting most of them

[prime mountain]

What lukas was saying is that normal shops and bosky shops dont work the same I think

[cunning karma]

At least when I did the infinite thing there were all kettles in both

But there could still be something left in some encounters, idk

[rich thorn]

ye, they share some relic pools

but there are diff one

[prime mountain]

Right but did you look at shops Outside the bosky or just kept refreshing inside

[cunning karma]

Both

Refreshing outside the bosky is also free

With that relic (Wushang shuttle or something)

[rich thorn]

yes

that relic works on both shops

[prime mountain]

mhmmm is lukas spreading misinfo again

[cunning karma]

Different slots sell stuff with different price, but after I bought out everything in the normal shop outside bowsky, I could only find kettles in the bowsky shops as well

[prime mountain]

🥀

[quick steppe]

bosky shop and cannot shop shares the same pool im pretty sure

like exactly the same pool

(right now before dlc2 adds hands and kings sets and all that)

[rich thorn]

same as cannot tongbao works on both

[prime mountain]

Ok that sounds like exactly what im saying though, shop outside bosky has relics which arent in the bosky shop

[cunning karma]

At least for this it's only because different slots correspond to different price

[quick steppe]

oh wait nvm

cannot has all the bosky shop relics

but there are no bosky shop exclusive relics

(except for unsealed case)

[prime mountain]

Yeah that

[quick steppe]

you'd want to wu shang a cannot trade node its true

[prime mountain]

So my question is outside of that, which relics remain that cannot be obtained trough either shops or fights or encounters with multiple options (Like stamp collection)

are there still boss only ones?

[grim portal]

does the ed2 ink count?

[prime mountain]

You can just

do ed2

Nothing preventing you from getting that

[grim portal]

no, i mean count as boss only relic

[cunning karma]

He's probably talking about the boss drops

[prime mountain]

I am talking in the context of trying to acquire most relics in one run yeah this is what I mean

boss drop only relics

[grim portal]

ow i see

[cunning karma]

Pretty sure the best ones are also in shop, but I don't remember every boss drop :p

[sly harness]

Nah there is staff like Hope (the infamous Box that I am pretty sure is only from the normal shop pool)

Or stuff like promo books (although they are probably only specific to F1 shops)

[cunning karma]

Could be the case that the normal shop pool is just bigger. And yeah the guaranteed ones are exclusive for sure

[prime mountain]

So we need f1 infinite now

😭

[sly harness]

Btw dlc2 adds the options to reroll all your collectibles in Lost and Found

[brazen bane]

okay thats pretty based

[sly harness]

Depending on the pool of this option maybe all stamps are possible too

[rich thorn]

slop

and the one with all into flowers

[prime mountain]

Wait can you trade stamp for another stamp?

I never tried

[sly harness]

This option allows to clear the entire pass in 1 run btw (one not that long run other loops are longer)

[cunning karma]

Yeah there are some CN videos that show how to get 60k points in one game with that

They did the infinite thing and refresh everything into lost and found

Pretty funny

And it would be so laggy that they would just close the game after they click exchange to make things faster

[rich thorn]

worse

[sly harness]

Ye

[rich thorn]

mango was posting here screenshots with no ops clears

[sly harness]

Good if you want to loop then suffer

[rich thorn]

game literally plays istelf

[sly harness]

IS5 allowed the no ops clears too

[rich thorn]

thats why is4 is the goat

[sly harness]

Give me at least guaranteed alternative bosses then I will think about it

[prime mountain]

d16 thats just guaranteed alts

Thats all we need

[rich thorn]

wait for d18

[sly harness]

Also I would like to see something like the IS6 d18 with changed stages

[rich thorn]

i would prefer another 1 ignot relic in shop

[sly harness]

The thing with 20 seconds increased stats is a bit boring

[rich thorn]

for that

or encounter like in is5

[sly harness]

No encounter would be slop

Imagine hunting encounters

With IS4 pool that is rather bad

[rich thorn]

is3

[sly harness]

ye...

but it is only on first 3 floors then you just skip

[rich thorn]

idk, but it feels like is2 somehow made it not so ass

[sly harness]

nah...

ed4 still dosen't exist

ed2 is quite consistent

but getting somthing like 24 would be very hard

[rich thorn]

(ye its not d15 cuz im just having fun) 44 relics, and its already so easy

drum + chalice

stove is fun tho

[sly harness]

[rich thorn]

better that tavern one for me

[grim portal]

so currently there is no possible way to get all relics in 1 run for is6, interesting discussion you guys had there, thanks for the information

[sly harness]

Second run in a row

[faint rampart]

highrolling in is6 pretty common😢

[open finch]

[rich thorn]

+65% atk -40% hp tongbaos are pretty common

[sly harness]

Yes

[slate hull]

there will be bloodshed

[faint rampart]

fuckass is6 f1 having more power than my half is4 run :reallyMad:

||i suck at it too so~||

[paper notch]

you'd outscale this with 1 tongbao in is6 :ICANT:

[slate hull]

you straight up start with a coin that reduces enemy hp by 30% when tossed

[uneven lintel]

@tired wyvern

Will be more online from now

can ping

[arctic panther]

the man in the mirror nods his head

https://tenor.com/view/jetstream-sam-samuel-rodrigues-metal-gear-rising-mgr-metal-gear-rising-revengeance-gif-11885031541724207956

[tired wyvern]

Ahh alright

Thx

Ur back, finally lmao

[sly harness]

[prime mountain]

Certified is6 classic

[faint rampart]

😢 my goat forgot to check the debuffs or wha

[sly harness]

Last Turmoil be like

[errant siren]

Classic

[arctic panther]

surely it'll count the last turmoil atleast

[vestal plaza]

is this the shit ass way to do ed3

[sly harness]

ed4

[vestal plaza]

oh damn

[arctic panther]

ed3 is the funny doubt node

with the weiqi/go/baduk board (WHY DOES THIS GAME HAVE SO MANY NAMES)

[prime mountain]

Localisation is hard

(they also call it chess for some reason even though it is very much not chess)

[sly harness]

Done

[vestal plaza]

i don't like this mechanic

[arctic panther]

its got black and white pieces therefore its chess

[prime mountain]

I think someone here may like is6

I am not certain

[arctic panther]

this localization shit is easy

[arctic panther]

you only have to do it once

just send fodder like matterhorn

[sly harness]

Nah I just like IS

A bit

[arctic panther]

then on f6 you can send everyone else

you get tons of chances there

[prime mountain]

Tons of chances are basically 0 cost cause you can just send everyone after you're done fighting

[arctic panther]

(unless you get blocked by doubts)

[ivory snow]

I guess I reset

[sly harness]

The fun stage

[arctic panther]

just lock in

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1158049223351222312/1435872026228428950/IMG_6136.gif

[sly harness]

Like it a lot, the one time when I have to lock in when playing IS6

[vestal plaza]

whoops

[arctic panther]

you sent raidian didnt you

or exu

[ivory snow]

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[sly harness]

Wrong Wis skill

[prime mountain]

Bro didnt draft dedicated aoe hitcount in is6 🥀

[rich thorn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/603595771287437322/1437312860077162657/eef2f6a5b8d27c3db973dcb3c2b0eda511145481.gif

[sly harness]

S2 just cooks this stage

[ivory snow]

I forgot about s2 wis

🧟‍♂️

[prime mountain]

Oh he had wis noooooooooooooooooo

[prime mountain]

Brainrot bro her s2 is better than s3 in so many cases...

[ivory snow]

Thought logos is enough.

it wasn't

[rich thorn]

logos is bad hitcount unit

[ivory snow]

I always got the chalice

not in this run though

[sly harness]

【【岁的界园志异】一个视频把越山海灌成水图-哔哩哔哩】 https://b23.tv/avEntkS

Here the guide

[ivory snow]

Nah. I ball.

Guides are just for people who meta

simp > meta

[sly harness]

Since your entire placement was totally messy

And you would lose anyway

[ivory snow]

I like pain

[sly harness]

This is a gimmick stage

[ivory snow]

it is. I am noticing the cars..

[arctic panther]

atleast you kept the statuegeists alive

[sly harness]

They would die

Look at logos

[ivory snow]

ffs

[sly harness]

Logos cooks them (since he can ignore dr)

[arctic panther]

he's facing left

[ivory snow]

he's facing down.

[sly harness]

Down

[ivory snow]

some ass is in the left

urgh. no ling node in this run.

[arctic panther]

oh

[earnest shuttle]

this one so hard I spent entire day to beat it

[sly harness]

Also one Statuegeist is dead

[sly harness]

I like IS a bit pov

[earnest shuttle]

does anyone have that clip of Cliff of Geist with Raidian s1 perfectly cleared ? (all enemy fall into hole)

[sly harness]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1HuhrzjE9T/

[earnest shuttle]

thanks

[sly harness]

if you are trying to recreate it... you will fail . Unless I am clueless and you are one of the people who like playing frame by frame

[faint rampart]

were is2 ones also done on d15

[sly harness]

Ofc not

[earnest shuttle]

something tells me the middle hole at the bottom left is most likely to fall into

[sly harness]

I did them back in the days

Also for IS3 I was like d1 slopper

Only from IS4 I started playing max difficulty

But even then I cleared all ed1-ed3 badges before dlc2 so no alters

[faint rampart]

guess i should be glad that you're sane

[lost flicker]

???

is4 is so weird

[prime mountain]

Hey some items in these are at a discounted price!!!

[rich thorn]

if not that debuff...

[gaunt bay]

Furrilo!

[prime mountain]

Kiwi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[lost flicker]

there wasnt anything useful...

oh wait it counted as a floor cleared, free bonus points

[cunning karma]

I've never pushed any single car into that hole successfully

[sly harness]

I need to make a gif with Mizuki solving this stage

[gaunt bay]

How are you?

[prime mountain]

Good! how bout you?

[gaunt bay]

Terrible I wanna kms

[prime mountain]

🙁

[gaunt bay]

🥹

Ok bye

[arctic panther]

https://tenor.com/view/mon3tr-pat-amiya-gif-9269608107849512035

[chrome tangle]

thats normal

just the shop bosky

[chrome tangle]

or none!

[rich thorn]

[rich thorn]

holy shop

stir fry and bells

[cunning karma]

gg

[rich thorn]

now need to pilot into 23

somehow

[ivory snow]

Fvck. I thought it was my selection

[rich thorn]

rip, failed

[tawdry granite]

Ugh i hate this stage

What raidian skill should i use

[rich thorn]

normal ed3, but with ed4 lp shop relic

fokin dusk dragon on EM 1shotted all ops

[gentle pagoda]

Idk why it never hit me that ash had an ammo skill

I think I figured the stupid squad I wanted to make

[sly harness]

Very funny EM (especially when you roll the +30% stats and literally everything gets buffed even more)

[rich thorn]

for a bonus i got spiked mofo at center

WHILE AUTO SKILLS TONGBAO ROLLED

😭

poor saki

[sly harness]

Imo auto skills coin is a debuff 95% time when you are low-rolling

[rich thorn]

cant say that was a low roll run btw

[sly harness]

(but now it is the second thing right after Saki that seems mostly good... dlc1 is just 🥀)

btw when we are talking about spiked chests

[rich thorn]

[gentle pagoda]

this is so funny, I finally figured what sniper I should pick

[sly harness]

Today I also got this... (I died, my draft wasn't ready)

[rich thorn]

let me guess, greed killed you here too

[sly harness]

Greed or not I wanted to have my setup on the left

(and then Mimick got split boxed in the Statuegeist range )

[grizzled nexus]

Bruh, didn't know Raidian Module defaulted to the second module.
Was wondering if it's a bug that make all of the summon adjacent to her auto retrieved all the time.

[rich thorn]

another victim of mod b

[gentle pagoda]

is it a bad module?

[rich thorn]

yes

modA alot better

[grizzled nexus]

It makes her summons can't be deployed in 4 tiles adjacent to her. And also reducing her summons stock compared to 1st module.

Though it makes Raidian target 2 enemies and get 120% ATK bonus in full potential.

[earnest ridge]

Does is-6 have ed4 after the update?

[sly harness]

Yes

[unborn oriole]

im gonna start is in general for the first time, ive looked in pins, but i feel like i still gotta ask, whats the best resource i should be looking at to pick up the mode?

[late pecan]

Which mode? Just in general?

[unborn oriole]

any, im very clueless so...

i dont know which IS Yet if that was the question

[final gale]

if u wanna learn about base gameplay for IS, u can do the solataire one (is2)... since it have the simplest design for the game mode

if u want a cheesable IS, do the furnace one (is5)

[unborn oriole]

is there a resource in this discord you recommend reading before i dive in

just the one specific to the is i choose? also hows IS6?

[final gale]

rouge lite is about fuck around and find out

[late pecan]

Classic FAFO strat

[final gale]

the guides will be understandable if u have knowledge about the game mode

[late pecan]

IS6 not bad, takes a while to get rolling but D2+ is where things become a breeze with Raidian levelling up.

[final gale]

for now, u can just dive clueless and learn along the way, thats how rouge lite works anyway

[rich thorn]

you will fail anyways because you need a map knowledge

[late pecan]

In all honesty, IS is just that one roguelite mode where you just keep dying over and over

And learn from your mistakes

[unborn oriole]

i dont care ofc thats part of it i just want more informed decisions and knowledge on where to go rto learn

like what does "an origiunm ingot" do

[final gale]

ull learn when u play it

but hmmm

[unborn oriole]

im doing it rn i promise

[final gale]

i think that one covered in the guide in game?

[unborn oriole]

perhaps, i started this "run" a week ago so i forgot the very furst part of the tutorial maybe

[final gale]

okay i cant navigate where smh

[unborn oriole]

wdym?

[final gale]

https://arknights.wiki.gg/wiki/Integrated_Strategies

try this one

as i see it, ur goal for now is what encounter means, what are boskies

how do u use ingots... yada yada

some surface knowledge

[crisp scaffold]

Depends on which IS

[final gale]

but then again, which ur also aware i think, u should play the IS to learn better

[unborn oriole]

what does the candle do...

[remote badger]

allows you to move around in bosky

until u have no candle left

you will return to outside of bosky

[late pecan]

Btw, Bosky Passage is just another word for special floor with its own nodes inside it. Sui's Consciousness / Wonderland in IS6 with candles, Possibility node in IS5 (needs 2 plans), for example.

[unborn oriole]

may i ask, are all the game reward the ones in the "pass"?

[nocturne cape]

There are some more in the monthly squad missions

But mainly the pass yes

Oh and the deep investigation missions too

IS is one major time sink of AK

but its (mostly) fun so you dont exactly feel enslaved, given that you have a good roster of ops

[unborn oriole]

whats deep investigation?

[nocturne cape]

You’re also not in any rush to complete them if you cant now

Rewards are all permanent

Its the tab next to monthlies

Not a thing for Is6 yet (Sui)

[sinful sparrow]

hi cube

[unborn oriole]

btw how long is a run more or less

[quick steppe]

[unborn oriole]

nawwww

dass crazy

how can i tell at what point im at

i dont got 16 spair hours on me its gonna take weeeeks

[remote badger]

what in particular

[unborn oriole]

what point of the run

[sinful sparrow]

wheres my translation

will it arrive in 3 business days

[arctic panther]

you can see what floor you're on at the top middle of the screen

theres 5 floors normally in each IS theme

[rich thorn]

from 30m to 1-2h

depending on theme and ending

[arctic panther]

though you can enter extra floors either by doing ending 3/4 or going through a bosky node(only accessible in is3 and up)

also something to note is that is1 doesnt exist anymore so the list of is themes starts at 2

[rich thorn]

no ceobe shroom trip

[unborn oriole]

how come?👀

[rich thorn]

😭

[arctic panther]

idk, hg just didnt want to bring it back for some reason

[rich thorn]

because its bad as RA1

[unborn oriole]

did we miss out

[rich thorn]

thats the reason

lol

[arctic panther]

the original version of the gamemode was released as an event alongside eunectes event

[unborn oriole]

ig not

[rich thorn]

its like

is2

but even more base

[arctic panther]

and you can actually see it play out if you read great chief returns

[quick steppe]

ill watch it soon ™

[rich thorn]

btw

how canon each ending in all is?

[arctic panther]

it depends on the theme

[rich thorn]

if i remember, is4 and is6 are canon

[arctic panther]

is3's endings other than ed1 are alternate futures iirc

[rich thorn]

is3 and is5 are not canon outside ed1

[remote badger]

is4ed4 is quite canon

to ef

[rich thorn]

idk about is2

[late pecan]

Usually an hour

[rich thorn]

but it feels like is2 ed4 is canon

same with ed1 and ed2, ed3 is ofk not canon

[arctic panther]

it probably is, just not the fight

[unborn oriole]

i recruited u official

how do i beat the ghosts

yi having those things cross the screen 24/7 i get one tapped by them

[steel relic]

hit them enough times or just avoid the center of the map so you don't have to deal with the empowered explosions