is-station

[woeful anchor]

[spice notch]

Yeah I hate IS and never do them how could you tell

[faint rampart]

80% of players but they need resources i guess

[woeful anchor]

dont play it then

[quiet mural]

play for reward

[sullen oyster]

should i get leizi2 just to fight ed2?

[remote badger]

need exu2 too

reminder not to touch the left side and instead -17

[sullen oyster]

I have exu2

[sullen oyster]

Oh ok

I tried to clear left with ethan +dps but choked quite hard lol

[remote badger]

feet will force retreat all of ur ops on 50% hp

[sly harness]

Leizi is nice but not necessary when you have Exu

[sullen oyster]

D15 hp is insane i can't even bulge him
Maybe bcs that run i didn't draft exu

[sly harness]

Leizi S3 with some ASPD co solve left side if you don't have LPs to leak

[sullen oyster]

Wait so all i need to burst the feet is exu2?

[sly harness]

Exu should mostly solo him with even a minimal amount of collectibles

[sullen oyster]

Sheesh

[sly harness]

Just bait him into her range every time

[sullen oyster]

So raidian s2 should work?

Or s1?

[sly harness]

S2 better

[sullen oyster]

Kay

[sly harness]

It can actually help to lane hold

[sullen oyster]

Is there a sample run with exu as main dps?

[spice notch]

I need Cutting Fluid to get Umiri to E2-

[sullen oyster]

On either bilibili or yt should work

[remote badger]

bilibili

[faint rampart]

【【五人无藏二结局昔字如烟】Unleash the Sui-哔哩哔哩】 https://b23.tv/j6Btrfe
does that work

[spice notch]

So I can get two through event

And then more Fluid thru IS

[sly harness]

Is this the relicless

[remote badger]

no combat related relics

[chrome tangle]

nothing that gives u combat power

[remote badger]

sth like that

[chrome tangle]

ingots also banned

[sly harness]

Swire

[chrome tangle]

Swire is a relicless queen

trust

just use other mods!

[sly harness]

What about Hool temporary LP

[remote badger]

unusable

[faint rampart]

📝

[chrome tangle]

i guess hool is too strong

for relicless as well

😔

wis with her relicless sami entropy (-46)

[sullen oyster]

damn i don't have yato and ela
maybe i can draft one

also angelica can perma stall enemies in her skill???
that's insane i didn't know that lol

kay doable
thanks a lot

[sly harness]

You don't need them

[rough kindle]

is6 e2 doesnt have a time limit?

[sly harness]

With collectibles just Raidian + Exu are enough for middle and right

[sly harness]

Up to 5 targets, good against hit count. Angelina with IS module is great

[sinful sparrow]

10 minutes

[sick mason]

Expansion 1 please hurry up

[midnight summit]

Idk wait probably 2 weeks or more until next update

[narrow cosmos]

What does expansion 1 do?

[sly harness]

Among some others QoLs Pathfinder and Bosky will have guaranteed verticals

[narrow cosmos]

Oooooohh

[forest orchid]

How should I deloy mu ops to win Vlarify with only 2 Lps

?

[midnight summit]

You need to start with mlynar, clear one side(top or bottom) and do smth with second side and prepare ranged dps after mlynar clears

[forest orchid]

Where is the best to start?

[midnight summit]

Surfer dp farm, raidian s2 to block them, logos sitting like he can dmg both bosses since they rotate 1.5 times

[midnight summit]

The middle

Where the talisman men can't put their talismans

[forest orchid]

I do have 65% dodge coin tossed
does that help?

[midnight summit]

You always start with melee ops that hit from range

[midnight summit]

Meh, talismans are the problem in the first placd

Then you can do whatever

[forest orchid]

Do talismans ignore dodge?

[midnight summit]

No, you cant use skills during talismans

But they can dodge the dmg

You can try to clead second side eith spamming yato s3

[forest orchid]

is top better than bottom?

[midnight summit]

Meh, both are ass but boss can ignore blockers for some time

Like the one in f3 boss

I forgot where it spawns from brb

[forest orchid]

How can I destroy Wangs balls fast?

[midnight summit]

https://youtu.be/RMO_cRTykPw?si=H9v3Jxalu1lsvtfg

Raidian summons can clear them

Or you can just ignore them most of the times

You need ranged dps at right top to have some dps on boss that skips your melee units

[ashen cradle]

How do you refresh a node in IS5?

[remote badger]

refresh button

[ashen cradle]

?

[remote badger]

tap onto a node

[ashen cradle]

Holy ffing sht, this would have saved my runs

Thank you

[remote badger]

see the refresh button

u need -1 plan to reroll it

if blueprint u only waste 0 for the first time on that node

afterwards its -1 like usual

[tired wyvern]

What the fuck man

I kill the boss and he gets on his fucking horse

How do u kill that thing 😭

And then mobs just rush

[remote badger]

kill

or stall

[tired wyvern]

How tf

Do u stall that thing

[remote badger]

idk

[tired wyvern]

😭

[remote badger]

bait or fib knows

[woeful anchor]

?

hes suceptable to any crowd control

[tired wyvern]

Help

Give me example, like from my team which was drafted

[woeful anchor]

draft issue

[tired wyvern]

What could I have done to win and not waste 58 min

[tired wyvern]

Account issue actually

[woeful anchor]

draft crowd control obviously

crowd control is king in is3

[tired wyvern]

Do i have have any crowd control?

[woeful anchor]

consider not playing is3

idk

also mostima

😇

[sinful sparrow]

consider not playing is3

😇

[tired wyvern]

I'm able to easily win IS3 ed1

[sinful sparrow]

lol ed1

[tired wyvern]

Ed2 is a pain in the ass

[woeful anchor]

u can easily beat ed2 too

[sinful sparrow]

fib told me ed1 is slop

🙊

[woeful anchor]

also 5stars have crowd control

[tired wyvern]

That blobbis easy

[woeful anchor]

bro doesnt know abt the mr nothing technologies

🧑‍💻

[tired wyvern]

I'm. Ot in a position to be able to raise so many Operators

[tired wyvern]

😭

[tired wyvern]

Isn't she niche?

[woeful anchor]

this is the niche...

[tired wyvern]

Fuck, you got me there

Well I'm not able to level her cuz i still need to level logos

[rich thorn]

just borrow friend tragodia

[tired wyvern]

Guess to finish the battle pass I just play ed1

[tired wyvern]

I use exia alter as my carry

[woeful anchor]

smthing smthing endgame content need endgame account to play

[tired wyvern]

Borrowed

[tired wyvern]

Welp, fine, ed1 push to lv 170 ig

[woeful anchor]

also like

leizi s1 crowd control bro

🤫

bro doesnt know abt the technologies

🧑‍💻

[tired wyvern]

Huh

[tired wyvern]

[woeful anchor]

? read her skill

[tired wyvern]

But she won't be usefull against the boss

[woeful anchor]

???

did u read her skill

[faint rampart]

@/zatrrr read the skill for us thanks

[tired wyvern]

I can kill the others without any support

Just the boss is a pain

[woeful anchor]

ok did u read her skill

[tired wyvern]

He freezes saki every hit

[woeful anchor]

once again, did u read her skill

[tired wyvern]

I never used her s1, i only use s2

[tired wyvern]

No

[woeful anchor]

why do u think i mentioned s1

[tired wyvern]

I r talking abt her alter rt?

[woeful anchor]

💀

[tired wyvern]

Oh, so no freeze? Fuck me

[woeful anchor]

???

dawg

i said s1 has crowd control

what part of that is dmg 😭

[tired wyvern]

Ik abt that 😭😭

I never said I needed smg

I needed only boss killer

[woeful anchor]

guess what crowd control does

stops the boss...

idk man

[flint token]

The ominous reduce boss dps by 90% technology

[woeful anchor]

smthing smthing if u cant kill, u crowd control and slowly chip down

[tired wyvern]

Ok now ur just playing rn

[woeful anchor]

wat

[tired wyvern]

That guy doesn't wait for me

[woeful anchor]

wat

[tired wyvern]

The knight one shots everyone and just moved to the box

[flint token]

that’s why you spam cc bruh

[woeful anchor]

ok so did u read leizi s1

[flint token]

You perma stun him

[rich thorn]

wait, how you stall his 2nd phase if he starts flying?

[tired wyvern]

Okay i give up, no ed2 for me

[woeful anchor]

why do u think i suggested leizi s1

[rich thorn]

with leizi2 s1

[woeful anchor]

omg bruh

[rich thorn]

[flint token]

Dude just stun the fucking guy

Sob

[woeful anchor]

lem chase till blue box enough time

[tired wyvern]

I place lezi near the rocks and do phase 1, the phase two bro moves to the box, the wht do i do

[woeful anchor]

25% hp not big deal

[sly harness]

Save Lemuen skill to just nuke him

[tired wyvern]

Look at my roster and tell me if I have stuns

[woeful anchor]

did u read what leizi s1 does yet

[flint token]

i wont

[woeful anchor]

😇

[tired wyvern]

WHERE DO U PLACE LUMUEN 😭

[sly harness]

Just get a Glory Pack

[woeful anchor]

omg bruh

[tired wyvern]

There's no rage tiles near the box

[woeful anchor]

💀 dawg

[sly harness]

On range tile

[tired wyvern]

😭

[woeful anchor]

just use leizi s1

holy

[tired wyvern]

There is no ranged tile near the box 😭😭

[rich thorn]

slam boss with her ass, and he gets 2s disarm

repeat till phase 2

[tired wyvern]

😭

[flint token]

Lemuen has mapwide tracking bruh

[sly harness]

She has "global" range

[paper notch]

lemuen has map wide range?

[woeful anchor]

dawg

is this ragebait

💀

[rich thorn]

yes

[woeful anchor]

its either rage bait or refusal to read

💢

[tired wyvern]

Yea she does, unless Theres a hoards of fucking npc moving near in lemuen range

[woeful anchor]

face lem to the wall and mark with adna

🤫

[paper notch]

ril

[sly harness]

With confess

[flint token]

Confess ftw

second best robot

[woeful anchor]

u can mark sleeping enemy?

🤔

[flint token]

Yep

[tired wyvern]

Ykw, I'm fucked an don't want to potentially waste time again 😭 I'll stick to ed1

[woeful anchor]

i should know this but i dont

damn im a fraud

😢

😭

[flint token]

That’s why confess is op!

[tired wyvern]

Idh him

[flint token]

Broke ass newgen

[woeful anchor]

my confess sux

only p3

🥀

[flint token]

just use adna then

[woeful anchor]

3 more pots to go ig

[tired wyvern]

😭

[woeful anchor]

🥹

[tired wyvern]

I don't have her eeither

[woeful anchor]

adna female real?

🤫

[tired wyvern]

I'm 2 months old, so idk if i should have her or not

[flint token]

Fuck do you mean adnachiel is 3 star

[tired wyvern]

Ohhh

I thought he was a fucking robot

Adna

[woeful anchor]

adna femal now

🚬

[flint token]

adna twink theory

[sly harness]

p6 confess is a breakpoint for marking during sleep...

Or p5 Lem and at least p2 confess

[dusk creek]

P5 lem easier to get than p6 confess fr

[sly harness]

Bait said that it took him like 400 3:50 hour recruitments with Vanguard tag or something like this

I only need 2 more... Surely soon

[woeful anchor]

for p6?

[sly harness]

Yep

[woeful anchor]

wtf

mine is p3 and uh

idk how many tickets

tho im not super active on my jp

[flint token]

i should go back to fishing robots

[remote badger]

🎣

[sly harness]

I think I was quite lucky with them. I only started doing the 3:50 recruitments recently for confess

[woeful knot]

u are so gae

[faint rampart]

senz without orv pfp🥀

[woeful anchor]

????

[woeful knot]

i need to switch pfps to improve my tainted reputation

😔

[sharp harbor]

IS2 recruitment voucher drop rng succs, got alot of Vanguard and Supporter

[remote badger]

common stuffs

[sly harness]

But supporters are good

You have Trag and Angelina for DPS and cc also cat is a great fast redplyment

Roberta for blocking

And Quercus for healing

[untold charm]

do relics that increase atk spd with number of ingots stack?

[open finch]

Yessir

[lucid arch]

how to do it

[sharp harbor]

Thanks Bob!

[lost flicker]

Are any of the 3* units not worth leveling just because they're outright bad? Specifically for early IS run purposes

[quick steppe]

they're all pennies i would do them all for paradox simulations anyway

[lost flicker]

Fair enough actually

[quick steppe]

just think of it as buying the 200 orundum...

[quick steppe]

:handmixer:

[sly harness]

In IS5 and IS6

You still really on some of them in IS4 and IS2

[lost flicker]

Yeah that's where I'm using em anyway

A good 80 levels from finishing IS2 and haven't started IS4 yet, so those 3*s are very nice

[sly harness]

Supporter: Orchid
Vanguard: Fang
Guard: idk (all are ass, Popukar was used with Reed alter in IS4)
Caster: Steward
Sniper: Kroos
Defender: Spot
Medic: Ansel > Hibiscus

Those are the best 3* to use

Also 1* are often very nice to use

And Yato 2*

[lost flicker]

Kroos my silly sniper that I've used since I started

[sly harness]

Her crit talent is very strong

Kroos and Steward are also nice with Archetto

[obsidian needle]

especially with Chocolate Pasta

[odd rose]

what chars are good started for is? (except raidian on is6 as that's a given)

[quick steppe]

leizi and sakiko can vgg in is5
leizi can e1 start when needed
narantuya can e1 start when needed

ente is usable in is6 for now

[rich thorn]

ill add here, ente is a good e1 starter, so you can go vgg with friend one + raidian, and use next guard voucher to get someone like saki at pathfinder with e2

[paper notch]

when did we start calling gvg as vgg

[paper notch]

basically all the characters here are good for IS in one form or another

minus like surtr and horn and blaze

[sly harness]

After SA alter ig

[odd rose]

What's vgg?

[tired wyvern]

If you use witch craft twice, does it spawn 2 portals? Or just a waste?

[sly harness]

Waste

[tired wyvern]

Okay thx

[sly harness]

Only the inspirer currently selected takes effect

[tired wyvern]

All are all the deep explorations tough or can they be done in like 2 to 3 hrs?

[paper notch]

they're all easy with 1 or 2 exceptions

[faint rampart]

[tired wyvern]

Hm alr

[sly harness]

Just Wisadel the exceptions

[tired wyvern]

I forgot how easy IS5 is

Wisadel just slams everything

It's been 50 min and alr 3 deep explorations donw

[worn falcon]

Is there a strategy to investing in Cannot's shop? Like there's a lower chance of it breaking if you go further in a run or someone?

[woeful anchor]

vgg is a mei thing

so it crinj

frfr

[tired wyvern]

I mean u could just grind with floor one runs

Reach rouge trader, give all ur ingots

[woeful anchor]

so chirstmas tree x3 is mei alt

frfr

[tired wyvern]

And rinse and repeat

[woeful anchor]

allegedly yes

[tired wyvern]

Is5 with blue print squad is like 2 min or less per run then 💀

[worn falcon]

Yeah, but it always seems to jam after 4 or 5 ingots. Is this the best way?

[woeful anchor]

but i havent seen any proof

[woeful anchor]

play shop squad

[tired wyvern]

Unfortunately yes, I mean, there should be a squad which allows to give more ingots

[woeful anchor]

blueprint so bad

[tired wyvern]

Ye that's what I was talking about

[woeful anchor]

wut

u jus said blueprint

[tired wyvern]

Wdym so bad, it's making my deep explorations wasier

[worn falcon]

In IS4? Which one?

[woeful anchor]

💀

[tired wyvern]

Read

[tired wyvern]

.

[tired wyvern]

Idk abt IS4

[woeful anchor]

???

that could be support squad too

[tired wyvern]

Just read what the squads do

[woeful anchor]

support squad give ingots

[tired wyvern]

Hmm yea

[woeful anchor]

omg bruh

[tired wyvern]

I'd say u just take tactical destruction or just do to low d levels and blitz through the first few fight, ain't that hard

[tired wyvern]

What are we even talking abt 😭
It's all I've the place

[woeful anchor]

pick any squad
bring exec s1

[tired wyvern]

[tired wyvern]

O

[woeful anchor]

he can afk clear all the f1 stages

broken op frfr

[tired wyvern]

Yea

How good is logos for IS3?

[woeful anchor]

kinda ass

[quick steppe]

90 res 💀 💀 💀 💀

[tired wyvern]

His S1 and s3 should be useful for high number of enemies rt?

[tired wyvern]

😭

[woeful anchor]

s1 dps sux

[tired wyvern]

U say everything is ass tho

[woeful anchor]

no?

[tired wyvern]

S3?

[woeful anchor]

u just dont have utility ops bruh

me when the top operator in is3 is a pusher

[tired wyvern]

Meh, I'll get there soon enough
From now on progress gonna be kinda slow,
Cuz there's almost nothing other than side story and IS for me to do

Just save and pull ig

🥱

[quick steppe]

weedy and ange are kernel 🥀

phantom is kernel 🥀

[tired wyvern]

💀

[woeful anchor]

cos is3 wants utility bruh

cos they design actually good stages

that force u to think and not just braindead brute force dps

[tired wyvern]

Ed1 solid by exu alter and lumen and saki.

Technically I don't even need saki if u have a heer and ines

[woeful anchor]

IS design has gone down since then lol

[tired wyvern]

Hmm

[quick steppe]

is design gone up

tbh

[woeful anchor]

ok and weedy 1 taps by pushing into hole

[quick steppe]

you just do all your thinking outside of the level

[woeful anchor]

‼️

[woeful anchor]

💔

kinda ass but yea

is5 has more time thinking on pathing than any other IS

(assuming is6 pre dlc)

which is wat en has

[tired wyvern]

Lmao

[woeful anchor]

it a precise strat that only has 2 frames of leeway

good design frfr

[inland elbow]

He's fine grrr

[woeful anchor]

i dont see the vision

💢

mayb i should get the medal4 in is3

[inland elbow]

You don’t even play!

[woeful anchor]

i play wucang

[inland elbow]

Yeah do it unironically

I promise it's fun

[woeful anchor]

he stinks in wucang

[woeful anchor]

ill wait for pram cuz im bad

😇

and i refuse to raise lee

[inland elbow]

Bro is gonna get pram and then logos sux because he's worse than pram

[woeful anchor]

yep logus sux

its true

[inland elbow]

The bait patented strat doesn't use lee!

[woeful anchor]

wat do u use

[inland elbow]

Ange phantom + weedy

[woeful anchor]

phantom 😭

[tired wyvern]

Lmfao

[woeful anchor]

i dont have lem so cleanup is kinda cringe

guess im forced to use la creatura

🥀

[tired wyvern]

Imma use both

[tired wyvern]

😭

Ppl saying hes meta

[woeful anchor]

not in is3

omg bruh

when will u learn is3 is a different field

💢

[tired wyvern]

Wasn't taking abt IS3

General

💢

[woeful anchor]

ok he still sux in general

🤫

bad power lv and not cute wat do

[tired wyvern]

Every one is good in IS3 till d7 cuz low difficulty is SLOP

[woeful anchor]

ril

[tired wyvern]

Okay, I agree with the cute part lmfao

His mom built diff frfr

[woeful anchor]

see @sinful sparrow logos aint cute 🥱

[tired wyvern]

She the IS5 f3 boss laqueramine iirc

[tired wyvern]

Lmao

[woeful anchor]

one of them ya

[tired wyvern]

Alr, me go do more IS5 deep explorations

The fact that I only have to clear ed once is crazy

Resr I can just skip

With abandoning

[open finch]

Logos mom both hot AND drops plans

Might be my goat

[woeful anchor]

big if true

[faint rampart]

small if false

[lost flicker]

medium if it's like a little in between

halfies if you will

[nocturne cape]

One cannot be more wrong

[woeful anchor]

i am so not wrong

[chrome tangle]

One cannot be so wrong

[faint rampart]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/390756814532378634/1451204643676749885/maidance.gif

[chrome tangle]

Gae ass

[lost flicker]

damn logos is hitting that shit

[gaunt bay]

Bro has such beef against lee

[inland elbow]

I have no grudge against lee, only the person who uses him

[gaunt bay]

[woeful anchor]

the dei incident

:joyplush:

[dusk creek]

I was going to say at least the guy played no feed

then I saw this:

[gaunt bay]

🥹

[woeful anchor]

broken

[faint rampart]

gae

[inland elbow]

"the 4th player will be selected based on quality of play and creativity"

-someone who has never played IS seriously in their life

[sly harness]

Is it about the first SGL, or something like this?

[gaunt bay]

yeah

[faint rampart]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/976478719499718757.webp?size=48&name=Binoculars

i assume its the lgd thingy, time to watch

[inland elbow]

yeah it's about the selection process for EN players going to sgl1

something I definitely have no ill feelings about 😇

[prime mountain]

omg IS drama

when should we expect a full one hour youtube expose on this???

[inland elbow]

it's like 3 year old stuff bruh

and plus it's not really drama

just poor management

[faint rampart]

holy shit i didn't know lgd channel had good stuff, full IS runs😋

[sly harness]

SGL3 where (ik that there were some issues)

[gaunt bay]

nowhere cuz noone wants to organize it

[faint rampart]

surely 2026 can be the biggest year for IS😔

[halcyon flame]

wsg

[gaunt bay]

hi alyssal!

[forest orchid]

@midnight summit
Defeated with onpy 1 sword guy leaked
Now I hope be able to beat Yi with Radian S1 + Tragodia S2 + Yalter

A question
Are lings Waregueists inmune to Logos S1 instakill?

[midnight summit]

Who

Everything instadies by logos s1 if it isn't hitcount enemy(they instadie on 1 hp)

[forest orchid]

https://arknights.wiki.gg/wiki/Waregeist
These ones

[midnight summit]

Oh, they instadie after a hit

[halcyon flame]

hi

[midnight summit]

Cuz they're 2 hitcount

[gaunt bay]

they only take 1 damage

logos s1 is 1 instance of like 10 million true damage

[forest orchid]

even the Scancounts and Sharpedges waregeits?

[midnight summit]

They're hitcount so you need them to be at 1 hp

[forest orchid]

Thing is I do have like 12-11 candlelit ops so I have +50 aspd

[midnight summit]

Highrolling

[midnight summit]

Also why do you have 1hp on f5 wtf

[forest orchid]

SUI regulator is strong at building suqads

[forest orchid]

Dont ask me why

[midnight summit]

Meh. Its just a tip to have at least 10, tavern gives a lot for ingots. And you'll learn everything eventually

[forest orchid]

Cuz got tavern late and couldnt exchange so much

why bonking me?

[midnight summit]

I like bonking myself dw

[forest orchid]

Won angaist Yi

How painful are Garrison and Inferno Stages?

[sly harness]

They are definitely much harder than ed1

Especially on EMs

[forest orchid]

these are normal version
but it lets me refresh the node

[sly harness]

Garrison is easier

[faint rampart]

refresh for the em version :YA:

[sly harness]

So you may refresh Inferno

If you don't want to play them

[forest orchid]

what does Garrison have? (Enemies)

[sly harness]

Ela event guys

https://tomimi.dev/en/stages/ISW-NO_Garrison

[tired wyvern]

14k attack 💀

[pure oyster]

howw

[tired wyvern]

It's a deep exploration

Not possible normally lol

[pure oyster]

ah

[tired wyvern]

Look at my toll

I had to play 3 floors normally to be able to get mind fractured for king relics

Then just blitz and boss kill

Blue print squad is amazing

[sly harness]

Probably possible

[sly harness]

Wait this is a screenshot right before the fight?

[carmine token]

😭😭

[tired wyvern]

Yes

[tired wyvern]

How?

[sly harness]

You lost a lot of damage by throwing away the thoughts

[tired wyvern]

Talon run?

[tired wyvern]

Oh yea I forgot abt that relic

[sly harness]

You had a +5% per thought collectible

[tired wyvern]

Brain rot 😭

[carmine token]

just dont go fractured

[tired wyvern]

Ye that's what I meant

[carmine token]

[tired wyvern]

I need to in order to get kings relics in the 4 and 5th floo

[sly harness]

Like this 14k on skill should be achievable in a Lamp run

[carmine token]

for boss i meant

[tired wyvern]

Ahh yea, tbh my mind was stable till the 3rd floor boss, then shrivil and sprout uhmm

[tired wyvern]

Oh wait, i fucking wasted.

I spent like so many thought on relic taht dint give dmg boost, i had like 60 atleast, that's 300 percent dmg boost.

I could have made it like over 40k prolly with the other relics combined

[carmine token]

[tired wyvern]

Fuck

I should have only used thought to not get fracture

[carmine token]

tis what i just said just dont go fracture

[tired wyvern]

Damn it, I lost a satisfactory dmg

[sly harness]

Fractured on d0 does nothing

[tired wyvern]

Yea i get what u said now lmao

[sly harness]

I mean extra phase

[tired wyvern]

Oh

[sly harness]

But it is nothing

[carmine token]

kinda

[tired wyvern]

Hmm

I have 6 mkre

I think the only problematic ones will be the kill 200 and earn 150 ingotsone

How the hell u earn 150 ingot??

[sly harness]

Rob the shop

[tired wyvern]

And 200 kills I'll just play till 200 and quit

[sly harness]

You can't do that in deep investigations

[tired wyvern]

There is a deep exploration that requires me to earn 150 ingots

[sly harness]

Robbing the shop correctly gives 112 Ingots

[tired wyvern]

Oh wow

[sly harness]

Oh you have just some stuff that helps you with it

[tired wyvern]

With aspd buffs

[carmine token]

deep inves dont allow shop rob

[sly harness]

Can't you also pick Ingots Squad?

[tired wyvern]

Yea

[tired wyvern]

I think I get a relic for each node I pass some ingot.

I want to finish it quickly so I'm using blue print squad lmao

Blueprint squad is brain dead.

[narrow cosmos]

Gonna fight Wang, is there anything he can do that would stop me from just dropping Hoederer on his head?

[tired wyvern]

Hehe

[carmine token]

im using cuz i want to clear ed4 n bail to is4

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1134535015888330846/1479563592972894229/alyrj2.gif

[tired wyvern]

Tbh I took the pledge of babel stuff to increase my toll, i coud have done Theresa and theresis fight

[tired wyvern]

LMFAOO

[tired wyvern]

I finished IS5 and IS4 battle passes

Currently doing IS3

[carmine token]

same, but i play for enjoyment

[tired wyvern]

Went back to deep explorations cuz i got logos in the 10 pull, and I need to level him up and need mats

[tired wyvern]

I do too, but rn i need to level my ops

Look what happened today 😭

The guy flies away

So much time wasted lmfao

[carmine token]

the one time beat him was on d1

[tired wyvern]

Ed2 is a pain in the ass with my ops

[tired wyvern]

[forest orchid]

I saw
Wanna know what enemies has Inferno

[carmine token]

ed2 is usully pain

[tired wyvern]

Hmm, the thing is, if I can somehow get the knight to stay there, lemuen kills

I faced lemuen the wrong way

Amd she aggro the mobile hoard

[narrow cosmos]

IS3 is just a pain in the ass

[tired wyvern]

And knight got on his horse

[narrow cosmos]

Just in general

[tired wyvern]

Ed1 is not a pain, prolly. Uz I'm doin it on low diff

D18 looks gruesome

Cuz I'm struggling rn 😭

[carmine token]

d16 is actually easier the d15

[tired wyvern]

What? How does that work 🤣

[sly harness]

I link the 40 minutes long ed2 fights

[carmine token]

u get a special relic on d16 at start

[tired wyvern]

💀

[tired wyvern]

Oh damn

[carmine token]

to remove cancer

[tired wyvern]

Wait, what?

[tired wyvern]

Do u get it on d18?

Aswell?

[sly harness]

Yep

[carmine token]

yea d16+

[tired wyvern]

What the fuck do u mean 40 min long fights 😭

[tired wyvern]

Ah

[sly harness]

Funny stage

[carmine token]

nymph stall

[tired wyvern]

What does it do?

[carmine token]

[sly harness]

Nope Trag e1

[tired wyvern]

I don't even know that cuz idh nymph 😭

[sly harness]

But he was my only dps

[tired wyvern]

Lol

[carmine token]

more cancer the nymph stall

[tired wyvern]

Alr, me go to bed.
It's 2:30 am here
Maybe play some more IS5 first

Ever since my exams got over my sleep schedule is fucked

[sly harness]

Trag died

And I clutched it

Then I slowly got him back

[tired wyvern]

It hurts me to see that all ur ops are infected 😭

[carmine token]

for is3

[sly harness]

The entire clear was like 40 minutes long

[tired wyvern]

Oh yea he's a fucking cheta code to stall

[tired wyvern]

Oh

Damn

DAMN

[sly harness]

Can't really perma solo relicless

But ye

He is great

[inland elbow]

you could consider bringing a buffer

[tired wyvern]

Pram alter maybe

[inland elbow]

it'll increase your damage a ton against knight

heidi and civilight eterna are free operators

[tired wyvern]

I'm 2 months old with a shitty ish roster compared to other IS players

[inland elbow]

civilight eterna stonks

good staller too

[tired wyvern]

Yea civilight is min maxed, not gonna level heidi cuz she resource drains

[tired wyvern]

Hmm

[sly harness]

Om S2 she binds

[carmine token]

s2 true dmg st bind

[sly harness]

And she isn't affected by freez

[tired wyvern]

Her s2 is m3

[tired wyvern]

What?

Dam didn't know that

[carmine token]

+100% atk inspa

[tired wyvern]

[inland elbow]

as for the d15 vs d16 thing, d15 is definitely easier if you know what you're doing

d16 is a pretty large stat jump

[tired wyvern]

Oh

DAMN

[tired wyvern]

How much %

?

[inland elbow]

d15 is 15% per floor, d16 is 20%

[tired wyvern]

20 percent PER FLOOR?

Fuck me

[inland elbow]

this is a huge difference on later floors

[tired wyvern]

Yes I got the hint lmao

[inland elbow]

it's not just 20% per floor

it's multiplying the previous value

so it's base value X 1.2 X 1.2 X 1.2....

[tired wyvern]

Yea i get that

😭

It's PAIN

[midnight summit]

Gavialter of doom and despair

[tired wyvern]

Tbh she actually solod all those mobs 🤣

[inland elbow]

so like Knight has 360k on d16, 280k on d15

[tired wyvern]

😭

[inland elbow]

on d18 the knight has 530k

[tired wyvern]

Man I'm so fucked

I need a better roster ASAP

[tired wyvern]

Hope the relics levels scale with difficulty

??

[inland elbow]

nope

[tired wyvern]

Fuck 😭

[inland elbow]

the only thing you have to rely on is your own skill and your operators basically

[tired wyvern]

Skill i can build from nothing,

Operators.... Yea

[sly harness]

Skillfully roll broken collectibles

[midnight summit]

Even with ass you can do it trust

[tired wyvern]

Hey, luck is a skill

[inland elbow]

just wait a year for wisadel 2 to come out trust

[tired wyvern]

Lmao

[carmine token]

Just get strat..... how broken

[midnight summit]

Yes, furrilo exists

[inland elbow]

but yeah I wouldn't worry about it

[tired wyvern]

I'm sparking wis this limited

[inland elbow]

you can just play lower difficulties until you build out your roster

[tired wyvern]

Furrilo peak

[tired wyvern]

Hmm

[sly harness]

Starting to play d15 took me like 2 years of roster building

Although currently it will be much faster

[tired wyvern]

Oooh boy, im fucked

[sly harness]

Because nowadays almost every new operator is insane

[carmine token]

powercreep in a nutshell

[tired wyvern]

Aaaaaand maybe I'm back

[midnight summit]

No, current units are enough to get to d15

[tired wyvern]

Hmm

[midnight summit]

(I did at least almost twice)

[tired wyvern]

The units i hv play logos enough?

[tired wyvern]

Oh damn

[midnight summit]

Logos is a bit lacking but yes

[sly harness]

For IS3 the important ops aside from modern damage dealers are Weedy and Angelina

[midnight summit]

Your other units are pretty good

[carmine token]

wis+lamp with decent run can bruteforce d15

[sly harness]

So basically save 360 gold certs for Kernel Locatings

[tired wyvern]

I'm gonna get him levels up as soon as I'm done with all IS5 deep explorations
I get all I need from there
But after this I need to start using sanity for resources and pre farm for wis sash2 and pramix

[tired wyvern]

Is5 is SLOP with lamp and wis

[carmine token]

ur right, but its possiblr

[sly harness]

Wis can consistently win d18 ed1 with Lamp

[midnight summit]

Use sanity on event farms #bot-spam /cnfarm

[tired wyvern]

Whoa, 2 ops huh,

When sa2 comes out, we get free top tag, I want kaltist from it as she's added into recruitment

[tired wyvern]

Max diff wis solos

[tired wyvern]

Yea

[midnight summit]

[tired wyvern]

[carmine token]

flingerslop isnt good mesurment

anyways

[sly harness]

ed1 isn't w good measurements

Flingers aren't a slop

Not playing 245 is a slop

[tired wyvern]

Lmao

[quick steppe]

wis trees is relicgem

[tired wyvern]

Idek what that is.

[midnight summit]

Hi forest

[carmine token]

ed2 + ed4 +ed5

[sly harness]

ed2 + ed4 + ed5 in one run

[tired wyvern]

You can do that here too

[carmine token]

is6 currently, no

[tired wyvern]

Though it was an IS4 exclusive

[tired wyvern]

Currently

[carmine token]

is4 has 234

[carmine token]

yea, for global

[tired wyvern]

Man, I need to build a better roster fast

[carmine token]

cn can do 245 on is6

[tired wyvern]

Hmm

[sly harness]

Or 235

[tired wyvern]

Goodnight

[carmine token]

gn

[agile hill]

is 235 better clear and fasteer?

better meaning more valuable clear

[sly harness]

In IS6 235 is significantly harder

[agile hill]

oh yeah does it take shorter time also

i heard after dlc 1 people are having like 4 hour runs

[sly harness]

I'm not sure about the run length in IS6 post dlc2

235 should be a bit shorter since you won't get the extra f6 Bosky to do

Although there will be much more too it

I guess the different squads will also change a lot

[agile hill]

also 245 just keep greeding I guess

3rd ending doesn't give you much to greed rn

[sly harness]

Most likely 2-3 hours will be the length of the runs

Like 2 hours was always an average for high en runs

And we already got Talons runs in IS5 that can be longer than that

And IS6 dlc2 is like those Talons runs

[agile hill]

also i feel like it will be hard for hg to design it short any more, people got use to how insane the runs are

it is hard to make insane runs short

without other issue i think

[agile hill]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1eCf6BHEqS/?spm_id_from=333.337.search-card.all.click&vd_source=c656cfef4810ab05e483e9c96960f9b5 ok i guess maybe ed 235 lack that one floor, but it sometimes turn the boss fight into 2 hours

[sly harness]

High-end runs have always been long, even in IS3. When you’re doing everything possible to win, you naturally spend more time planning and playing each stage as perfectly as possible

[inland elbow]

Takes a very long time

Depends on the strategy you use for ed5 as well

3 hours is considered a fairly restrictive time

[west quarry]

d15 ed23

dlc0

done

i forgor to screenshit

🥹

[remote badger]

means no proof

[gloomy crescent]

screenshit

[arctic panther]

i dont think that would help

[west quarry]

real

no screenshit

who even cares tho its not 245 🙄

[sly harness]

You mean 235t3 with ed4 debuff?

[arctic panther]

• relicless + no 6* + solo

[arctic panther]

actually no robots only + solo

[sly harness]

I mean this probably will be the 245t3 (IS5) equivalent in IS6

Where 245t3 + ed3 debuff will probably be something like a just 245 (IS5) equivalent

Unless t3 is too annoying to get consistently

Not sure about that

[gaunt bay]

Meow

[magic isle]

Is higher melee atk or lower general enemy def recommended (is4 relic)

[sinful sparrow]

its not

[woeful anchor]

most of the time better atk is better

theres only red king from ed4 with high def (6250 def)

[sick mason]

How???

[fickle jungle]

relic effect

[sick mason]

I dunno which relic could it be

[fickle jungle]

polar retrofit package

[sick mason]

I see I see

Because I never see the actual effect of this relic before

Neat tossing

[magic isle]

Ok I see thanks man

[flint token]

This shit is so good with stunbomb or smoke machine

[sick mason]

Hmm would this thing be better applied to Raidian, Exu alter or Sakiko

[pure oyster]

trying is3 for the first time, i predict this will go poorly. i don't have any E2 wandering medics

[sick mason]

I think E1 Mulberry or Honeyberry is enough

Don't use Chestnut he's so ass

[pure oyster]

yea i chose honeyberry

had a hard time choosing between mulberry (e1-1 sl7) and honeyberry (e1-30 sl5)

[sick mason]

Mulberry is better in general healing while Honeyberry is better at healing multiple people

They're pretty much almost the same anyway

I forgot Harold existed but meh

[pure oyster]

i don't think i have them

i have eyja too but shes also around e1-30 (plus expensive to recruit)

[outer cliff]

Honeyberry is a red permit op iirc

[pure oyster]

i meant harold

i'm using honeyberry already

i got all the red cert shop ops

[gaunt bay]

Eyja has value in is5

:amiyay:

Well, had

[sick mason]

Harold is a welfare op from "the rides to lake silberneherze" event

[gaunt bay]

Idk if she still has

[sick mason]

Maybe if u love to put people within mark of epoch that is :v

Or when u need global healing to fight Quilon

[pure oyster]

those spines are so annoying

more so when they are in range of a sniper

[sick mason]

Those spines better taken down with arts dmg or with Wisadel but plus flinger hand

Their DEF is absurd

[pure oyster]

and my sniper will do nothing but hit the spine to no avail

[west quarry]

use amiyi

[pure oyster]

i usually have a caster to get them

[sick mason]

Click is enough

[west quarry]

amiyi very easy to draft and eats spikes for breakfast

[sick mason]

If u don't have hope anyway

[pure oyster]

pudding :3

[west quarry]

and also great in is5 anyway

[pure oyster]

my pudding is almost maxed

[sick mason]

Pudding very DP costly

[pure oyster]

pudding is necessary >:3

(i'm being silly)

[sick mason]

U have to wait to get 29 DP just to put down one chain caster 💀

[pure oyster]

matsukiri helps

[fickle jungle]

most common strat is now ethan bind/ trag cage + m3 so prob not anymore

[quick steppe]

spines aren't too bad
most squads have a way to push through spines

[sick mason]

Wow Matsukiri mentioned

But you better off waiting for SA alter

[pure oyster]

yea, i've dealt with the spines enough now to not screw up (usually) but when i first started they really messed me up if they were in annoying locations

[quick steppe]

class squads usually have amiya, changing to castermiya for tougher catastrophe spines

yato can barely do it for sescort early on

trag is trag

[sick mason]

Castermiya in our big year 2026 🥀

[quick steppe]

rosmontis is rosmontis

and can sometimes do it

even archetto can grab f1 spines in a pinch

e1 wis can barely get through f1 spines but also possible

[sick mason]

U need flinger hand for that

[quick steppe]

doable without hand if you're playing 🌲🌲🌲
e1 tin man + e1 wis should get all normal f1 spines

otherwise trag start if you dont wanna deal with that tbh

[sick mason]

Or just do Exualter start

She can annihilate everything with S2

[pure oyster]

i don't have any other amiya than caster

[quick steppe]

mogged by tragodia im afraid

not a bad draft tho

e1 start doable

[sick mason]

There's a reason why Exualt, Wisadel and Tragodia now considered as the top 3 ops

Next contender in CN is gonna be Wang

[pure oyster]

i try not to use tragodia (feels too much like cheating 😔 )

[flint token]

wang is pure slop

[sick mason]

S2 just makes everyone go here and there

[flint token]

appears in 90% of all optimized CC clears

ggwp i guess

[sick mason]

Despite S3 is less being used, but the stalling power is absurd

[quick steppe]

ya alongside trag tho

[pure oyster]

if it just moved people, but it also kills many things very easily

[flint token]

casual orbital strikes

[quick steppe]

trag is at least interesting when he solves stuff

wang is just drop chess piece

until eventually they somehow surpass his damage

[sick mason]

Wisadel is for braindead, Tragodia is for those the intellectual enjoyers

Wang? I suppose you just put down weiqi in this and that spot and you're done

[flint token]

casually stomp every content available into dust

and dont let me even get started on chalterter bullshit

[quick steppe]

chen3 still looking for a home tbh

[sick mason]

Chen alter^2 S3 is insane

Wdym her S3 can deal up to 6% of the target's current HP

[quick steppe]

mogged by sakiko in is6
too tricky to maximize damage in cc

[sick mason]

At least it didn't say "max HP" but that's just absurd since she's technically the first operator that dealt HP-based dmg

[quick steppe]

too finnicky to use in normal daily

[agile hill]

ceobe technically does max hp damage when def grows poportionally to hp

[pure oyster]

what about exu2?

[quick steppe]

exu2 a healthy mix of both tbh

[sick mason]

I guess depends on the skill u use

[quick steppe]

s2 for just big red number s3 to do acrobatics

[sick mason]

S2 is just go braindead

S3 is... yeah you need some thinking

[agile hill]

also did you guys know fire chen is more sensitive to damage buff and reduction compare to other arts units

[quick steppe]

less sensitive tbh

[pure oyster]

i have only tried S3 a few times and it feels not super obvious how to use it well

[quick steppe]

because if the arts damage is too hard she just gives up and goes back to dealing physical

[sick mason]

You can redeploy the ground ops with the longest redeployment time

Remember: Only ground ops

[quick steppe]

either way her arts damage is less than wangs most of the time so 💀

[pure oyster]

yea i know what it does

but ... how to make use of it

[sick mason]

U can combo Exu2 S3 with Surtr or Hoshitter (both with S3 duh)

[pure oyster]

you: combo with surtr
me: combo with robot

[sick mason]

Wow your genius level terrified me

[flint token]

(hoshi is like probably better in every front compared to surtr but yeah)

[agile hill]

because fire chen does current hp damage, she is more sensitive to res or damage buffs

and debuffs also

[quick steppe]

better to mention how sensitive she is to terrain tbh

difference between hitting once and passing by vs 50 times in a 1 tile toilet

is pretty big

[sick mason]

The further the game progress, the more absurd operators HG released

[flint token]

yeah she might be a RA bot

but ig we’ll have to see

[quick steppe]

so goated in RA when you can build her the perfect 1 tile trap every time

[sick mason]

Maybe we'll get to a point where there would be Wisadel but dealt true dmg instead

[agile hill]

apparently there are people saying how hit count also varies with cord on the map

[pure oyster]

kinda unfortunate imo... i had to borrow wis and use all of my broken units and still had a hard time on SS-EX-8

[agile hill]

i dont even know how that happens

[quick steppe]

either way too finnicky

[sick mason]

I know a solution

H A R U K A

[pure oyster]

i have haruka but she not built

this is the problem i have with many ops

[sick mason]

Wdym she not built

She's easily the best "healer" now for casual content

Okay she's in a competition with Mon3tr but u get the idea

[agile hill]

like in a 1by1 box, apparently her hit count can variate between 52 andd 62 hit count for dragon

[pure oyster]

i have a lot of ops to build...

[sick mason]

Just build those who would help grinding harder content

[pure oyster]

i mostly get by with silence and silence alter

[flint token]

silence alt in big 26

[sick mason]

Silence is meh

Silence alter is even more meh since Haruka existed

[quick steppe]

her afk is very comfy

[pure oyster]

silence slander

[sick mason]

Giving 10% sanctuary by default and max 24% off skill

Vs Haruka's default 30%

🏃

[pure oyster]

i have made it to requiem aeternam

ugh i did something dumb

oh wait i won even so (no leaks)

[inland elbow]

pretty sure chen3 is the dominant and popular draft rn

and people take sakiko later if they want to do the brute force strat for ed5

[pure oyster]

Dropped vigna here to take care of the guy that reveals your invisible ranged units but she can’t attack him

[quick steppe]

your en route is jokes anyway since it's is6
better to look at ending performance
in which case chen3's dragon has a hard time in ed5 because it flies around eating reflect damage or is otherwise wasted

while sakiko has hp lock for the whole band
including mutsumi who can eat flames

[inland elbow]

we're talking about the mode where hool gets unironically drafted

[quick steppe]

and thus saves you a slot for someone to control the flames

[inland elbow]

for DAMAGE

[quick steppe]

ho ol so goated

i told yall to invest in snake stock

📈📈📈

[inland elbow]

https://b23.tv/ktjR7me

[quick steppe]

many are sleeping on her scaling

[inland elbow]

I've been mainly following this tournament since it has some big names

and chen3 is super popular

I'd guess like a 80% draft rate

sakiko is closer to 50%

(and early on there was a meme because all the deaths were sakiko drafters)

legit I think hool got drafted more than sakiko

A billion 2026 ops and hool

[pure oyster]

i was not expecting rat king

[paper notch]

damn we are living in the worst timeline

hool getting unironically drafted in IS

[quick steppe]

i think the sakiko issue also comes to other factors i think

like she fits tianshi's ideals pretty well which is why it keeps happening

[inland elbow]

doesn't this tournament super favor her though

there's a time limit, and a ton of the best ops are soft banned because of point penalties

so brute force strat for ed5 is super favored since it actually clears quickly

leak strat is tianshi only

and the stall strat is obviously unviable because of the time limit

[quick steppe]

im seeing the idea is like
you dont have all your luxury ops to handle everything not boss related anymore

like when eyanx is off winstreaking without restraint you blow through everything with full power, so you can afford the extra tickets for a comfy ed5?

i think is the idea