is-station

[pastel saffron]

is bro trolling, u do realize to fix swordmaster they made degen auto from chen and irene

so cn player only

Coz I can't comprehend an en player doing 4 sui less max risk

[stray dove]

CC7 and CC10 were the only times I attempted max risk

because highly-gimmicky stages are easier to max risk (not much pot-gating)

[halcyon sierra]

if i take the visage of crowned fates relic (turns max life points to 1), does my life points increase when my command level goes up

[sly harness]

yes

[halcyon sierra]

damn thats a shame

[sly harness]

so if you want to stay at 1 max LP you need to pick it after lv6

[halcyon sierra]

cool ty

[stray dove]

3 Image Discerns.
0 Tenth Hour.

[faint rampart]

damn you're still on it

[stray dove]

I have to

once Expansion 1 happens

it's gonna be a LOT harder to skip F1

I actually have a time limit because of QoL shit

[sly harness]

i hope that seeds will allow me to get them

especially since after dlc2 they will get a buff versions

[sinful sparrow]

mfs be complaining about rare hours being rare

and still grind

actually cringe

[stray dove]

I'll keep complaining about Partial Cecity too

I'm still not done with IS4 because of it

[pastel saffron]

wait max risk was 36? I wonder what stopped me from maxing it

biggest hindrance was the fact I was new probs

[pastel saffron]

which patch was E1 in cn?

[sinful sparrow]

the biggest hindrane is that 35 is harder than 36

because cannon is buffed to 4000 damage or something

[stray dove]

well

if you were stupid enough not to take cannon damage risk

SURE

[stray dove]

no clue

but I am not waiting to find out

I still have to take advantage that proccing Hour of Sui

is still faster than ending F1 in IS4 with 9 collapsal points

I can easily just side eye 2nd monitor Hour of Sui proccing

while i watch something

I'm doing it right now

[pastel saffron]

I had Mlynar here, prolly couldn't do higher coz of having no gnosis and had to borrow chalter too

[grizzled nexus]

It will happen in the Monthly squad and then not registered

[pastel saffron]

Disappointing kinda

[heavy pumice]

no i am not
but if you think so, so be it
not like i would brainwashing or something other to think the same as mine

[stray dove]

IS6 monthlies actually register it

at least for relics

and coins

but don't

[pastel saffron]

omg, I am so sorry you sound like you really minded what I said 😭

But S2 is not her best skill, I suggest you look at the snipernights guys video on her

[stray dove]

don't do that to me

for Tenth Hour to proc

in monthly

[pastel saffron]

he gave pretty good answers

[stray dove]

means i get lvl 1

that would hurt way fucking harder

[heavy pumice]

its ok bro
me just like this, can be misunderstood easily by others

[pastel saffron]

https://youtu.be/QEh6WhsXs9g

[real mango]

Oh yeah the Mimic definitely needed buffs

[pastel saffron]

@heavy pumice

[real mango]

As if the normal bastards weren't already unreasonably tanky and hard-hitting

They definitely needed buffs

[heavy pumice]

no worry i play sniper a lot to achieve this average result

[pastel saffron]

[stray dove]

I just want Tenth Hour lvl 3 to be obtained so i can once again attempt IS4 partial cecity procs

[heavy pumice]

IS5 i only play tuta s2

[stray dove]

I don't want these rare floor debuffs being in the back of my list/mind

[heavy pumice]

and most of my time using tuta, s2 is default skill i usually use

[pastel saffron]

wtf man how many runs have u done so far

[faint rampart]

omg st*rn

[pastel saffron]

is this the 10th hour?

[stray dove]

it literally says Twelfth

in description

2 floor debuffs are hidden

you can't see them there until you get them

[pastel saffron]

wow I don't have 5th and 10th

[pastel saffron]

wow interesting

[stray dove]

same with the 2 rare paradigms in IS4

[pastel saffron]

I actually only barely reached d7 there

which ones are rare?

I have 8 rn and all unlocked

actually am at d8

I need time for ts

[faint rampart]

died at f1 gonna blame endfield

[faint rampart]

twice wtf😭

[slate hull]

what did you do? shop rob?

[faint rampart]

yea

[slate hull]

okay, that is reasonable, you can expect to fail if the tongbao are not in your favour

[faint rampart]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-ant-this-is-how-i-feel-when-sad-ant-with-bindle-hormiga-triste-hormiga-yendose-gif-8032300637149839825

[native sky]

Just wait seed

Im going to wait for it

There’s no fucking way for me to grind this shit again

💀

[raw hemlock]

Lets goooooo

Got all Raidian's proficiencies now

Just gotta get the module and skills done

[stray dove]

I don't remember seeds actually helping "discover" anything the last time they were implemented

[steel relic]

I'm pretty sure they didn't

[slate hull]

so, seeds just affect map generation?

[native sky]

they didnt？

noooooo

[native sky]

Depends ur choice it can change rng(not in battle)

[stray dove]

iirc I really didn't take part in using specific seeds for discovering/unlocking anything the last time it was implemented

held no value for me

[native sky]

But sarkaz doesn’t have any rare epoch iirc?

[stray dove]

it didn't

its image discern was attached to an encounter node

[native sky]

So

Last time it didn’t count?

Let me get a CN account and try it

[stray dove]

i'll wait for your confirmation

[native sky]

Fuck

The seed is d12

Account owner is in d4

💀

[unkempt lion]

Any tips for this? It's my 10th time trying and even with this god-like run I couldn't beat the boss

[native sky]

Fuck,the hour is different

[winter belfry]

Is this the one with enhanced fremont

[gaunt lichen]

toe ring

wsg

[winter belfry]

hi laq

[gaunt lichen]

[unkempt lion]

Yeah

[native sky]

Finding another account owner.jpg

Still 6:33 am in China

[sly harness]

Wisadel and Blueprint + Lamp speedrun is enough to clear this if you know the boss mechanics

You can also actually play a Lamp run and get a normal draft to make this fight even easier

[unkempt lion]

Yeah that's the strat I keep trying but I don't know the mechanics so I die against the boss everytime

[sly harness]

Bait the balls and then shoot the boss

Other enemies are paper thin so only boss and stuff like bind caster or necrosis fields are a threat in this fight

[unkempt lion]

The mobs that root/stun you instantly kill my bait everytime before the balls get off for some reason

Yeah those bind casters are annoying

[sly harness]

If you are not familiar with the stage you can check Enemy Routes Simulator on https://tomimi.dev/en/stages/ISW-DF_Cognitive_Correction

[unkempt lion]

Are all deep investigations based on difficulty 0?

I'm always confused about that

[sly harness]

Should be d3 because d0-d2 lowers the stats

Also this one investigation has this additional modifier:

Boss enemies' HP and ATK are increased to 500%.

[unkempt lion]

Oh that's why I can't kill the boss, I'll try the bait thing again I guess

[prime mountain]

How do I throw this one, bets open

Oh yeah and

[gaunt bay]

Emulator crash

👍

[prime mountain]

Hasnt happened in quite forever

Bad attempt 🙁

[gaunt bay]

Youre overdue then

[slate hull]

that is a run and a half, there is not much that can take you out unless you somehow end up on emergency mangshan or something like that

[prime mountain]

This might, but we'll see

Sent trag away right before

🙁

[slate hull]

that was my other prediction, but I figured surely you wouldn't get that when you are on f3 already

[prime mountain]

Screenshot was end f3

[slate hull]

wait, yeah, that is a f4 stage

[prime mountain]

Saved by phoenix encounter methinks

-5 ok we fine

Ok no I die because I'm dogshit and cant clear regular bosky fights

damn

-3 candles on absolutely fuck all

[gaunt bay]

Lmao

The secret additional option of skill issue

How broken

[prime mountain]

Tragedy

Imagine clearing bosky fights for coupons

couldnt be me

[slate hull]

if you had 9 coupons could you go to both of them?

[prime mountain]

Yeah I wouldve went bottom path

and got both

But alas, I spent like

6 coupons to clear one fight

[sly harness]

What was the idea behind pathing like this

[prime mountain]

Pray for one of the fights to give a risk coin > give 1 coupons because of that one relic

They didnt

Wouldve blown up otherwise cause shit team needed the greed

Unstacked drum coin, 0 flower coin brewed realm, 0 stack bells

yep

[remote badger]

shit

i forgot to charge my phone

[sly harness]

So like Bosky was behind some EM or something?

[prime mountain]

Needed the pathfinder for ed3

Which would waste it

[sly harness]

Yes but you can go Bosky and get Coupons

[prime mountain]

Yes but I'm not that smart

Consider

[remote badger]

highroller

[prime mountain]

I highroll because the game takes pity on me for being so ass

😭

[slate hull]

I am trying to figure out how the vertical travel works like, I think it stops you from going to nodes you cleared, but if the combat were uncleared and you had a vertical travel coin could that be pathfinder + bosky assuming you have the coupons

oh wait, you can't leave combat uncleared, you can only be on that node if you cleared it

don't let me cook, I am onto absolutely nothing

[sly harness]

Also tip if you want to pray for Risc coins do it on Face-Off or EMs, counting on normal fights isn't worth it

[prime mountain]

Right but

I also blew a faceoff

[sly harness]

t1?

You go t1 for coins

[prime mountain]

T2

yeah I'm bad

Its fineeee we keep highrolling

[slate hull]

faceoff is pretty much a "I fogot this enemy could do this" simulator

[sly harness]

For coins always pick t1 because it gives you 2 x choose 1 from 2 coins

[remote badger]

👀

[prime mountain]

First bosky fight is the 0 dp one

game

please

[prime mountain]

I will ascend beyond the realms of highroll!

[sly harness]

t2 is (irrc) 1 coin, 1 voucher and 1 collectible
t3 is 1 collectible + 1 random voucher + 1 choose 1 from 2 vouchers

So usually you will go for t3 if you need vouchers or t1 if you want to fish for some coins

[prime mountain]

So all this time I've been greeding faceoffs for worse rewards

bruh

[remote badger]

ah yes

greedy

[sly harness]

You have the solution for the 0 DP Turmoil here (-2 DP for Specialist so even p1 Exu can open this fight)

[prime mountain]

Right but exu ban

I play exuraidianwis ban

[slate hull]

hmm, that means the main reason to go t3 is if it rolls gopnik and/or duck

[prime mountain]

It did roll that! (I couldnt kill them)

-initial sp from ed3 and hour

Is so ass

[slate hull]

yeah, it is really easy to leak the duck

if you get solo gopnik it is pretty much free

[sly harness]

If you desperately need vouchers t3 can also theoretically help with this

[unkempt lion]

What's a good carry for this start? I don't own any 6* that has those specific cc

[sly harness]

Like e.g. you are f5 and need to e2 some key ed2 character like Angelina

[remote badger]

is it d0

[unkempt lion]

I have no idea, it's a is5 deep investigation

[prime mountain]

This is is2 monthly I think? Or DI so yes

[remote badger]

then just run anything

[prime mountain]

Highroll mfw I am hardstuck here and wouldve needed to skip f2 + f3 bosky

its drone map (my hoshi is still e1)

its dp map

Its ed3 doubt

[unkempt lion]

So there isn't a strong 6* op that either stuns, freezes or bounds?

[sinful sparrow]

gigampreg

[sly harness]

Okey why enter with e1 Hoshi them

[remote badger]

dont think about it

[sly harness]

What are your candleholders

[prime mountain]

e1 entel and e1 yato

I was hoping for a fight I could clear by virtue of good relics

[sly harness]

Just don't enter Bosky with this

[prime mountain]

Skipping f2 and f3 bosky is like

absolutely insane behavior

[unkempt lion]

I kinda need to, I lost a few times already with my usual start so I wanna take advantage of the collectibles

[sly harness]

If you want to play Raidian Wis Exu ban at least use a real class squad

[remote badger]

just
dont

[sly harness]

The only option if you can't take fights

[prime mountain]

Imma be real I dont even know what the options are

Entel leizi gvg?

[sly harness]

But ye it is very cope

[prime mountain]

Def supp is fraud

Without raidian

[remote badger]

relicless in is2 is still possible (no combat related relics)

[sly harness]

Hoshi + Trag

[prime mountain]

And what is your usual start?

[prime mountain]

Lmao no that doesnt clear 2+3

[sly harness]

Yes

It is real

[unkempt lion]

Wisadel + gummy + click or indigo

[sly harness]

Trag is ass into endings but has great en route and decent Bosky with Hoshi

And you can cope him as a lane holder with S3

[remote badger]

his job is to

provide cats

not dpsing

[sonic sable]

Good morning

[sly harness]

The only issue is that you need Swire if you low roll damage

[prime mountain]

Whats the ed2 draft then? I dont follow

[sly harness]

Because this squad can't kill Sui

[prime mountain]

Oh right swalter is good ed2 dps

[sly harness]

Swire altar to kill Sui

Trag can hold the middle and left (a bit cope)

You target the classic Rose Salt + Waai Fu

And you have in class Angelina for left

[prime mountain]

Ange for left what in the

How

[sly harness]

The relicless tech

[prime mountain]

I am so out of the loop on is6 holy

[sly harness]

(she is the real relicless solution for that)

[prime mountain]

I tought that was leizi?????

[sly harness]

She needs ASPD

[gaunt bay]

proof?

[sonic sable]

No proof

[gaunt bay]

no proof

damn

fraudillo

😢

[sly harness]

Angelina also can't exactly solo relicless

[prime mountain]

How do you keep her alive

[sly harness]

But is really good

You don't

[remote badger]

what

[prime mountain]

mfw precise rotations

[sly harness]

You redeply her for every wave

Generally the timing for that is very good

[cold fjord]

Yeah just dont afk

And you get it

[sly harness]

Also Hoshi e2 + Trag e1 can do shop rob f1

[prime mountain]

But you dont get them candlehold if you do that????

What the hell

[gaunt bay]

[sly harness]

Pathfinder fight with Hoshi

e2 Trag when entering Bosky

[prime mountain]

I do not understand is6 at a fundemental level

[winter belfry]

insane ass tech

[native sky]

@stray dove just tested

It can unlock

[sly harness]

I do the same on gvg because I need to open e1 Ente and currently I have a streak of 7 d15 23 wins with it

[native sky]

Just use seed

[prime mountain]

Leizi fight and entel on bosky promotion?

[sly harness]

Btw one important note you need 1 extra Hope got that so Kettle or roll the coin

[sly harness]

Yes

[stray dove]

wtf is that yellow? Also nice.

[native sky]

Dlc2

[stray dove]

I just hope those that get Tenth Hour would share their seed

[native sky]

Can change debuff to buff

[native sky]

Me too…

I only found the image one

[stray dove]

do you need to discover it? or does it autounlock?

[native sky]

No one posted the other one

Auto Unlock

[stray dove]

good

[sly harness]

Generally Hoshi, Leizi, Raidian are a bunch of operators who can very consistently survive f2 Pathfinder

[prime mountain]

Wacky ass boskies today man what

[native sky]

Now the problem is

[sly harness]

With others you can run into some issues

[native sky]

Where to get the tenth hour seed

[stray dove]

at least your LP is looking good.

[native sky]

I see a lot ppl in nga asking for it

[stray dove]

and it has to be a global player too when it comes here

[native sky]

But no one has one

[sly harness]

Is this the super rare Box

[native sky]

The seeds are the same iirc

[stray dove]

still, good luck

[native sky]

💀

[stray dove]

based on my own statistics

Tenth Hour if far rarer

than Image Discern

[native sky]

Yeah

What about samis?

[stray dove]

maybe the same

[native sky]

I also have the image discern only

[stray dove]

i got 2 Image Discerns

[native sky]

Nowhere to see the other one

[stray dove]

and 0 Partial Cecity

[native sky]

💀

[prime mountain]

@sly harness You wouldnt happen to know which bosky maps can be leizi/entel cleared would you

Actually is there like a full list somewhere this seems like elite CN knowledge someone has a spreadsheet for

[sly harness]

https://discord.com/channels/1345870367956271104/1463007927060136109

[prime mountain]

Thank you ❤️

[sly harness]

Although I am not sure if this still works properly because the guy is updating the list for d18 + ed4 debuff (also Ente mod Y appears in many clears)

[prime mountain]

waregeist needs p6

Im dying

This map is ass

[sly harness]

Most p2w map in the game

If something won't work ask, I should remember most of the old setups

[prime mountain]

Oh it might be doable with p2, I should try

[faint rampart]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/976478719499718757.webp?size=48&name=Binoculars

wtf hidden knowledge

[prime mountain]

P2 is not doable

What

Why did he get enough dp for 11 but not me

???

[sly harness]

You get 11 only for a few frames a few seconds into the stage

[prime mountain]

A few frame its like literally frame perfect holy fuck

[sly harness]

High end IS

[prime mountain]

[slate hull]

a few frames? I wonder if you can get screwed if your emulator/phone is too slow

[gaunt bay]

time to go shopping

[prime mountain]

Oh its VERY tight

[sly harness]

Are you not retreating your ops before Sui stomps them?

[prime mountain]

I can do that one consistently!

My spacebar

is breaking

but thats another issue

[faint rampart]

[sly harness]

I am doing this on mobile

[cold fjord]

Yeah

Its a p2w stage AND frame perfect

[native sky]

@stray dove just found the tenth hour

[prime mountain]

Who designed ts 🥀

[stray dove]

well.....that's nice. But seed application isn't exactly present right now for global

that's gonna be a long wait

[native sky]

yep

I won’t hunt rn

[stray dove]

I might as well

[native sky]

Gotta go back to Sami

[stray dove]

it's too long

[native sky]

💀 💀 💀

[stray dove]

plus

hunting Tenth Hour is a 2nd monitor

[slate hull]

at this rate we might see 10th sui before you see the 10th hour

[stray dove]

NGL knowing that seed helps discoveries might make me just go back to IS4

to hunt for Partial Cecity again

I think I might transition to that because IS4 ain't getting seeded runs anytime soon

[prime mountain]

Wait this works with swalter s3 right?

And s2 ig

[stray dove]

most likely

relic designs in IS6 has been very flexible

[native sky]

Who’s swalter XD

[stray dove]

Swire Alter

[native sky]

Oh

[native sky]

I guess so

She s also amo type

[prime mountain]

If you need even more attack on her s3 for some reason

[native sky]

Ammo

[sly harness]

S2 what? As far as I know this skill doesn't exist in IS6

[prime mountain]

Fraud skill yep

[steel relic]

honestly I wouldn't expect it to

[sly harness]

Also I am not sure whether it works or not, it is not called Ammo

[gaunt bay]

furrilo have you ended your fields

[prime mountain]

Im a fraud there too

Copied factory layouts

But progress is being made

[gaunt bay]

where do you get blueprints

🥹

[native sky]

Not my type of game XD

[prime mountain]

My goat sciel ❤️

[stray dove]

it might not be called that. But any bar-related meter seems to work that way.

[prime mountain]

Also someone made a website to share blueprints

[stray dove]

although no one has tested that relic with Swalter

to a degree that proves it might work

[prime mountain]

But its kinda new so kinda empty for now

[native sky]

Oh

Swalter isn’t describe as ammo type?

I always thought she is

Bc of the bar

[prime mountain]

Im gonna have to run the numbers

!

(by that I mean send screenshots here and let one of you goobers calc it)

[gaunt bay]

isnt she like 100k damage on s3

[stray dove]

Not gonna hunt Tenth Hour for now since seeded runs would be a solution in the future.
Going back in IS4 for Partial Cecity

[gaunt bay]

d3

[stray dove]

it's enough LP to leak with

and squad is for inflating paradigm

[faint rampart]

bully

[prime mountain]

By that I mean blow up because EM of that dragon stage on f3

[faint rampart]

[native sky]

[native sky]

Gl bro

I’ll wait the future when they add d18 in Sami with the seed

XD

[stray dove]

unless IS4 is getting seed support, I'm going Partial Cecity hunting for now

here's the thing

Partial Cecity discovery is one thing

making it level 2 is another

doing it in harder difficulty might kill you off and net you only a lvl 1

although...if it is seeded

that won't be an issue

constant retries

[native sky]

True

gotta go sleep，1am already

gn guys

[stray dove]

3 fights in F1 all with 1 leak just to get 4 paradigm procs (3 actual, 1 seen in foresight) when going to F2. I've not heard anyone suggest better than this grind.

[halcyon flame]

is4 is literally we live in a society bottom text moment

[prime mountain]

Ok it does work on s2

So prob also s3?

[halcyon flame]

ya

but s2 is

[steel relic]

is she dealing damage there?

boss looks like she's still flying

did she not just gain a stack from talent

[halcyon flame]

oh wait i thought he was talking about first

idt swire works with blocks no

[prime mountain]

Oh wait yeah I forgot her talent also buffs attack

[halcyon flame]

buh

[steel relic]

Fraudilo spreading misinfo again

[prime mountain]

Ok need to test more!

[halcyon flame]

did bro even read her IS module

[steel relic]

bro that's base talent

she's even e1 in the pic

[prime mountain]

I forgot what her talent did at e1 ok

[halcyon flame]

[steel relic]

surely Furrilo isn't so fraud that he would use s2 at e2

[faint rampart]

[prime mountain]

its not even masteried, dont worry

[steel relic]

epic

[halcyon flame]

smh not m9ing

[prime mountain]

Erh how would this even work

[steel relic]

first you realise that coins are not ammo

and go from there

[prime mountain]

Nuh huh its still unknown behavior!

[steel relic]

can't wait for the fail screen "I died while trying to test"

[halcyon flame]

put my chalter in the bag 🥀

[prime mountain]

Im giga locked in rn, will test once its stable

[sinful sparrow]

if exu is at 30% ammo, gains 30% back

to be 60%

[sinful sparrow]

omg hi

Chuu~

[prime mountain]

I meant if ammo works on swire alt s3

It prob dont

[slate hull]

I had the dictionary stacked with the other ammo relic that recovers 50% of ammo and had both wis and exu2, that was a good run

11 wis s3 ammo and exu2 s2 was almost 2x as long

[prime mountain]

Huh

stonks'nt

[stray dove]

it's like getting a Rental Gold Joker

[prime mountain]

omg balatro mentionned

[halcyon flame]

free red coin replacement

[stray dove]

LocalThunk actually shared some v1.1 joker teasers

so i wonder if 1.1 is near if he bothered to share anything

[slate hull]

it is kind of turning into silksong at this point

going to be the biggest 1.1 update in the history of gaming

[stray dove]

i don't mind indie devs taking their sweet time

i don't want every game i have be a live service constant update

[slate hull]

absolutely, I will take a fully tested big update over 20 small updates any day of the week

[stray dove]

and i might like what LocalThunk is cooking

because he had knowledge or context

of someone who has cleared C++/100%

so at least he has scratched almost every surface of decks and jokers

[quick pond]

29/85 Tactical Ranged Squad Ending 1 Difficulty 12

Genuinely, Fuck whoever made the Roadblock Ware-user stage. I was minding my own business trying to do Ending 2 got 4 1HP Gates and gor Epedition Drums 10 stacked with inly 1 node left to get the butterfly encounter and this piece of shit of a stage just diddled my run like a bitch ass who uses welfare money to buy Gucci bags instead of feeding its kids

[stray dove]

what are your usual ops?

[sinful sparrow]

i dont get it

[stray dove]

Ware User for me is

fully solved

smooth

and comfortable

[steel relic]

I assume by roadblock they mean the DP stealers

[stray dove]

ah that one

yeah i don't even take that one

until I know i can drop an 8 DP Raidian

and can easily drop 0-2 cost summons

[sinful sparrow]

“fully solved”
“i dont even take it”

[stray dove]

or an 8 DP Ines

[sinful sparrow]

🚬

[stray dove]

yeah when they said roadblock

i thought it was the non-Turmoil

the one with a LOT of Sharpedge

my bad

or the other Ware User with the UFO and Chalice

i have no idea why only a few map names stuck with me in IS6

hell I only remember 4 Difficulties, Clarity, Shanhaizong, Mangshan, Sword+Glaive+etc

[steel relic]

the one you were thinking of is exemplary service

[stray dove]

It didn't help that 1-2 days ago, someone here needed help on that map because they were stumped how to solve it

[prime mountain]

Simply have max pot on all your units!

Or frame perfect deploy open

how fun

[steel relic]

classic whalilo

[stray dove]

once IS players finally learn how to deal with IS6 furniture, they can destroy any IW maps they come across

[sinful sparrow]

kill this nerd

[quick pond]

Seriously, what am I supposed to do on that stage? Especially with Ssu-Nung

[stray dove]

just let it go

some stages in specific situations

can't be bypassed

[winter belfry]

stun or other types of cc

[stray dove]

and Ware-User DP hell with Ssu-Nung

is near impossible to solve

unless you have 99 DP coin

or have Bob Cert

[winter belfry]

uofficial is solid there

[stray dove]

UOfficial candled?

damn

talk about luxury

[winter belfry]

make do with what you have i guess

[stray dove]

Indeed

I feel like I've already failed if a Turmoil ain't tackled under one candle

I only do 2-candle Turmoils when there's nothing else to progress in Bosky

Can't wait for Amiya to get more classes

she'll get more and more valuable due to versatility

[clear hill]

What’s dodging in Arknights?

[stray dove]

as it says on the tin

skills that give dodge

think of Flametail S3

or Hellagur's passive

[clear hill]

Ooooh I see

[stray dove]

there's also a Risk coin

that gives everyone decent dodge

but enemies get ASPD

truly built for dodge relic usage

[clear hill]

Then which one should I choose?

[stray dove]

not dodge....

[clear hill]

Cherry?

Okay

Thanksss

[stray dove]

if a relic isn't gonna be all too valuable for you, just pick the other option

oh yeah correction

you are playing IS5

the dodge coin i mentioned is only in IS6

some relics do give everyone a minor form of dodge

but i doubt you can rely on it too much

2 Image Discern

0 Partial Cecity

doesn't include future paradigm procs seen with foresight

[sly harness]

There is also this quite common collectible that gives you + 5 starting DP and additional + 10 for every vanguard

Or clear it after getting the second ed2 collectible

Texas is a very cope tech

[stray dove]

don't....

don't go there. Texas recruitment and candling just for that

[sly harness]

She is Yan

I mean if you ran into this stage f2 and you know that it will complete brick your progression you need to do something about it

Like today I was forced to take Gummy over Hoshi alter only because I need someone to stall the car in Four Difficulties B

[split void]

How do you guys normally deal with this stage ?

Although I am doing hard mode here. I am doing quest for mat

Basically D1 right ?

[sly harness]

The healer on the left rotated right and Rosmontis + second damage dealer on to middle tile

Spam bodies / Rosmo pillars

[split void]

I am gonna be really if I lose the stage, cause story not fully unlock

[stray dove]

a decent healer

your choice of healers...

are questionable

[sly harness]

To reveal invisible guys

And Chestnut is a fake operator don't draft him

[stray dove]

I'd pick Pure over Chestnut

I'd pick Gummy over Nearl just for more consistent heal intervals

[split void]

But my nut is 0 hope and can heal circle things

[sly harness]

He can't

His healing is too weak

[stray dove]

lol you don't want the van getting killed too fast?

cause Hoshitter S2 can stall

but it can kill faster

[woeful anchor]

no thats d0

[woeful anchor]

bring a real medic

like silence

chestnut at e2 max heals less than ansel btw

👍

[sly harness]

B is the spiked chests variant

[stray dove]

if you want necro solutions ever, just go for Meyja

[stray dove]

isn't Hoshitter S3 better there still as long as you make her not be too near the spikes?
Just tell me that you picked Gummy because you want to stall as long as possible for more rewards

[faint rampart]

wha

[split void]

Actually would have lost if it wasn't for her s3

[faint rampart]

[stray dove]

yeah he's clowned upon for a reason

[sly harness]

Ofc get all Ingots

[woeful anchor]

bro is surprised than elem medics stink at regular healing

wtf

avg newgen player spoiled by eyja

🚬

[stray dove]

yeah Meyja kinda broke that mold

[faint rampart]

i mean...all ele dmg healers below 6* are clowned upon so

[stray dove]

and now Haruka will too

[faint rampart]

:reallyMad:

[woeful anchor]

i think eyja still has a role

sort of

[sly harness]

And it was e2 Gummy + Candleguests vs e1 Hoshi choice

[woeful anchor]

for is5 ed5 shes mroe useful to increase max hp

haruka sanc doesnt rly do anything against true dmg

[stray dove]

pre-Meyja, I raised the 2 Berries for IS2 purposes

they did a good job enough to prevent so much nervous procs

[faint rampart]

[sly harness]

Elemental healer in IS2... What?

[woeful anchor]

@nocturne cape do u know if the rosesalt waaifu technologies still work in d18

seems like foot deals too much dmg now

💀

[nocturne cape]

It does not

[sly harness]

Like I know elemental damage is there but it is nowhere near to being that annoying

[woeful anchor]

bruh

[nocturne cape]

Relicless at least

Bro

[woeful anchor]

raised shit for nothing

😢

[nocturne cape]

That combo barely lives relicless on D15

Try it yourself

[woeful anchor]

yeah i know

i did the mafs

i didnt know what the new tech tree upgrades are

so i was asking

maybe new tech tree is op

[nocturne cape]

Some hp but not nearly enough to compensate

[woeful anchor]

whats max tech tree buffs now?

[nocturne cape]

But youre also playing with much more relics so its usually trivial

[woeful anchor]

+30% atk hp def?

[nocturne cape]

Let me see

[woeful anchor]

real? its not often i get hp relics

def relics are a joke

[sly harness]

There is quite a bit of HP stuff

Not getting any should be rather rare

[stray dove]

Phantom, Mouthpiece and some IS2 mobs dealt nervous

iirc

[woeful anchor]

bruh

why is it not all the same values

💀

this stinks

[sly harness]

26%

[stray dove]

well it's still valuable but you just need more tanking relics, right?

[nocturne cape]

Yeah

You usually have more than enough btw

[stray dove]

so status quo on my end

[nocturne cape]

Dlc2 is generally a buff to relic count

[stray dove]

simply because i play it absolutely safe

[woeful anchor]

oh dlc increases relic econ?

[nocturne cape]

Yes

[woeful anchor]

bruh

[stray dove]

how?

[woeful anchor]

so not getting hp relics is common predlc

yes?

but uncommon post dlc

[nocturne cape]

Its still pretty common predlc i think

[woeful anchor]

🤔

[sly harness]

But it is mainly for specific squads? Or in general

[nocturne cape]

In general

[sly harness]

I guess the new coins are the biggest thing

[nocturne cape]

So many new tongbao that generate more collectibles

And more LP in general

Which translates to relics

[woeful anchor]

this makes grinding relicless worse

[sly harness]

Oh more LP can be nice

[woeful anchor]

:amiyay:

[stray dove]

as long as it ain't "consistent Lamp" levels of consistency

I'm all for more ways to get stronger

[woeful anchor]

i wonder what the soln for d18 ed2 would be

[sly harness]

Tbf currently you can really low roll LP and like you enter Bosky shops only once and that is all

[woeful anchor]

prolly 6-7 ops

[nocturne cape]

Its still random at the end of the day

So no, no lamp bs

[sly harness]

There are 2 endings 2

[nocturne cape]

I wanna see relicless ed5

[sly harness]

On d0

[nocturne cape]

Even the easiest ver feels interesting to do relicless

Surely it involves tragodia

[woeful anchor]

the nonalt one

ya

[nocturne cape]

But i wanna see it in action

[split void]

Was at F4, tried to refresh a normal combat node. That gave me hard mode . aimed for non combat to get to F5 .at least I am done

[stray dove]

how

isn't doing 3/3 means you reached F5?

[split void]

Yea I am done

Just need to get to F5 here

[sinful sparrow]

good evening

[nocturne cape]

good evening

[quick pond]

How do I get the upgraded IS6 mini-bosses?

[stray dove]

luck

same way same-map alters in IS5 F3 bosses were also RNG

what can be controlled in IS5 F3 bosses were a stronger version of the alter fights by also having changed maps

[sly harness]

In terms of stats and abilities the rng alters and the encounters alters were the same

Only the stages changed

And they had less spines of epochs... So slop

[unkempt lion]

Is there a way to figure out how much attack speed I have in total? What's the formula? I have collectibles that give raw numbers like 7 aspd/5 ingots, but others that give 30%

[inland elbow]

Add the aspd up

[sly harness]

Base interval modifiers can be distinguished by including "ASPD" on the descriptions. All units have 100 ASPD by default, and ASPD can never go above 600 and below 20.

For example, "ASPD +5" and "ASPD +10" together are the same as "ASPD +15", indicating a 15% increase in attack speed and therefore reducing the attack interval by 13.0%.

[unkempt lion]

Oh it tops off at 600, gotcha. This run is insane

[unkempt lion]

Is the attack damage formula similar?

[inland elbow]

no

https://is-central.github.io/general-knowledge/damage-calculations/

read this

[woeful anchor]

nerd

is that ur surtr btw

[inland elbow]

no

mine is m9

[woeful anchor]

oh

i just saw p6 and thought it was urs

:joyplush:

[woeful anchor]

damn whale

[prime mountain]

Omg nice endfield character

[inland elbow]

surtr simps are very common

[woeful anchor]

omg laveatan

[prime mountain]

How did bro get m9 character so early

is he whale

[woeful anchor]

yes bait is known whale

[nocturne cape]

P6 Lev

[inland elbow]

yep that's why my yato has no pots

[nocturne cape]

whale confirmed

[faint rampart]

early access to skin

[woeful anchor]

anyone wanna sponsor me hoshi pots ‼️

[inland elbow]

if you become a big bili tuber you can sponsor ur own 😇

[winter belfry]

nop you dont need 30 def

[grizzled nexus]

Shit

[sinful sparrow]

@nocturne cape what do you think of Tianshi squd

after dlc2

it still feels kinda… whatever?

[stray dove]

whats the upgrade?

[nocturne cape]

i think its good

good tianshi players are beating d18 max diff ed5

so far it seems like only shop, tianshi, proxy and tourist can do it fairly consistently

btw, sending you this in a moment

43 relics end of f3, 40 hope at the start of f4

no drum stir bell chalice

[sinful sparrow]

thanks 💋

[sinful sparrow]

+2 bosky steps feel kinda good but you do run out of nodes no?

[nocturne cape]

think about this

now you have Plan buff

you can keep looping risks

or flower

since flower uses all your ingots

so cost 0 when you have 0 ingots

that sounds better?

[sinful sparrow]

oh

makes sense

[stray dove]

the new squads sound fun from how you talk about em

[nocturne cape]

yes

[stray dove]

with 2 being strong

[nocturne cape]

i think dlc2 is insanely fun

[stray dove]

and i thought Vanilla IS6 already gives you so much power

they really kept the strength you get in IS5 but implemented it in better ways

[sinful sparrow]

its pretty funny and i enjoyed proxy a bit

[nocturne cape]

proxy is the braindead squad

rng your ass through ed5

[sinful sparrow]

:joyplush:

the slot machine squad

[nocturne cape]

i think tianshi or tourist has the highest ceiling

shop and proxy is guaranteed power but doesnt have as much highroll potential

well

[sinful sparrow]

i remember that Flower coins have some additional ones that give you relics based on LP or some shit

[nocturne cape]

comparing to tianshi or tourist

[sinful sparrow]

funny

[nocturne cape]

their highroll is still insane

[stray dove]

Tourist is 5 coin coffer. I'm guessing the included perk of locking in coins makes it way way stronger?

[nocturne cape]

6 now

[sinful sparrow]

Tourist is 6 coins per toss

[stray dove]

oh yeah

[sinful sparrow]

And you get 4 extra coupons now

[stray dove]

2 upgrades for complete IS

[sinful sparrow]

So you start with 9

penis

[stray dove]

only 1 upgrade for global for now

[nocturne cape]

and you can upgrade your coins now at Plan

[sinful sparrow]

god i love tourist squad

feels so good

[stray dove]

2 West + All Directions F1 D18

[nocturne cape]

there is one upgrade that says "this coin has a chance to be tossed in addition to your regular toss"

[sinful sparrow]

… tourist doesnt start with all extra risks

[nocturne cape]

so late game tourist can toss like 8 coins at a time

[sinful sparrow]

it only has 4

[nocturne cape]

if you get the sticker relic you can toss like 10

[sinful sparrow]

theres also a funny as shit option in Plans

[stray dove]

isn't there a chance for it to proc 5 directions?

I've done runs with 1 extra dupe direction

[sinful sparrow]

Sacrifice 5 LP and it replaces your entire coffer with Risk

:joyplush:

[nocturne cape]

that is trivial

worst case you leak some

[sinful sparrow]

god i fucking love it

[nocturne cape]

but you cant die even with all risks tossed at the start

0 chance

impossible

[inland elbow]

what's the draft

[sinful sparrow]

yeah cuz 10% extra stats is whatever

[stray dove]

Raidian or just Geexu?

[sinful sparrow]

yeah can i see a tianshi run

like surely they have a bili vid uploaded

[inland elbow]

I always knew hool would become a meta staple

[nocturne cape]

its a fking temp recruit buddy

oh yeah

[sinful sparrow]

this guy

[nocturne cape]

mika

[sinful sparrow]

can we murder Bait

hii

[nocturne cape]

my confusion clear in the video

might be a little funny

[inland elbow]

mylnar popping off goes insaneo style

[nocturne cape]

and you will be confused

[sinful sparrow]

ya ok

[nocturne cape]

and its fine

[sinful sparrow]

ping me in cult

:mon3trsmug:

[inland elbow]

sa on s3 is interesting

is it just because you need the dp gen

[nocturne cape]

yes

[inland elbow]

I assume reed is the best attack debuffer + medic

[sinful sparrow]

god i love reed

shes so cute and so good

[inland elbow]

I could've sworn I told you to get ur ass off s2

[nocturne cape]

bait would love to know that this run is 157 relics

[inland elbow]

bruh

nvm not interested anymore

[sinful sparrow]

do they have a vid

[inland elbow]

today I will fish out the entire relic pool

[sinful sparrow]

this is a stream so surely

[nocturne cape]

they dont upload their full run

[sinful sparrow]

damn slop

[nocturne cape]

actual gatekeeping behavior

[sinful sparrow]

🥀

[inland elbow]

they don't upload their 1000 fails until they got the highroll too

[sinful sparrow]

wait what about stream vod

[inland elbow]

only the highroll

[sinful sparrow]

[nocturne cape]

there is none

[sinful sparrow]

damn thats slop

[inland elbow]

so is mylnar just the guard everyone drafts now

[nocturne cape]

yes

[inland elbow]

leizi, ente and saki dead?

[sinful sparrow]

ye

[nocturne cape]

yes

[stray dove]

wait

[nocturne cape]

i believe they're all fraud

[inland elbow]

I just level 90'd leizi

perfect timing

[stray dove]

what happened?

[sinful sparrow]

i think the ed5 landscape favors him more
and taunt is helpful

to take shuo’s shits

[nocturne cape]

you need that taunt man

you need it

[stray dove]

oh we back to needing taunt

[nocturne cape]

and mlynar damage is better with relics

[stray dove]

reminds me of IS4

[inland elbow]

in mylnar we trust

[sinful sparrow]

wtf pot 5

Bait known gayass

[nocturne cape]

leizi doesnt scale as well

[sinful sparrow]

🫃

[faint rampart]

whel

[inland elbow]

???

[stray dove]

so me not pulling Lazer has gotten more value

[faint rampart]

also reed mentioned

[inland elbow]

there's been like 2 standards with him in gold cert shop bruh

[sinful sparrow]

why do you buy more than oncr

[inland elbow]

you mfs without a high pot mylnar are slacking!!!

[sinful sparrow]

:susge:

[stray dove]

I'd rather get HH permits using gold certs

than buy pots with gold certs

[inland elbow]

for this

[sinful sparrow]

Bait is finding excuses for his lust after mlynar :cry;

[stray dove]

I don't even use Mly outside of IS

[sinful sparrow]

wtf but #help told me pots dont matter

wtf!

[nocturne cape]

its true that liberator pots are better value

[inland elbow]

there's a game mode outside of IS?

[sinful sparrow]

why do they keep lying to me

🥀

[stray dove]

yeah i call it R&R

[inland elbow]

strange, I don't think ulpianus has r in his name

[sinful sparrow]

i heard its the mode where you put down ulpianus 600 times and go to bed

[inland elbow]

neither does gladiia

[stray dove]

i'd rather burn everyone

[sinful sparrow]

die

[stray dove]

than get in a coma after dropping Ulp Gladiia

[inland elbow]

you'd rather click 50 times a stage

[sinful sparrow]

burn slop creature

😢

[inland elbow]

than just drop two ops down

🥀

[nocturne cape]

i heard its the mode where you put ulpianus in front of your bluebox in Chaos and have him sit there for the entire game not hitting anything

[inland elbow]

yep proof that is5 is slop

[sinful sparrow]

Chaos but enemies have -3 stats

[stray dove]

cathartic to fire explode enemies after reaching complete circle from a map away

[sinful sparrow]

:YA:

[inland elbow]

but yeah, most pots I get are accidental

[sinful sparrow]

Burn slop mfs when they realized the burn either does nothing or does nothing

[stray dove]

AP-5 farming

[inland elbow]

but some pots just matter

[stray dove]

I use Blazer so it does something

[inland elbow]

fuck you gonna do without a p3 ela

[sinful sparrow]

ok but ela is is4 warrior

wcyd

[inland elbow]

nope she's is3 champion too

[sinful sparrow]

creature has been slop ever since

[nocturne cape]

emergent gameplay

[sinful sparrow]

😢

[stray dove]

IS3 Trag Ela

i love their permastall

[sinful sparrow]

proof?

[inland elbow]

the way I like to put it

[stray dove]

Can't wait to get SAlter and Pralter

[sinful sparrow]

wheres ur d18 menace right spawn 😢

[inland elbow]

is that if someone pulled up rn with a p1 gravel

you'd bully the shit out of them yeah

the only reason mfs cope about 6* pots is because they're poor

[faint rampart]

isnt pram tile unsafe or you're just killing dragons before they can touch you

[inland elbow]

when in reality, they're just as or more impactful than 4* pots

[sinful sparrow]

kill before they touch

[stray dove]

time to AFK to leak this guy. BRB.
just Partial Cecity grind things.

[sinful sparrow]

🫃

[faint rampart]

[split void]

Why ?

[stray dove]

hunting this

[nocturne cape]

killing them before they reached

dont try this at home

[inland elbow]

most of my pots weren't intentional anyways

[stray dove]

yeah

Viv P5, unintentional

[stray dove]

Siege P5 unintentional

[faint rampart]

d18...i guess just another cube highroll run

[sinful sparrow]

logos 😋

[stray dove]

it's over. It's gonna be forever before Mudrock gets another skin.
And they still refuse to give her a fully-armored skin

[faint rampart]

twink

[inland elbow]

you can enjoy ur e0 skin forever

[stray dove]

yeah

still using e0

[inland elbow]

she's never getting another one bruh

[sinful sparrow]

she has like 3 already bruh

[inland elbow]

bro I remember pulling for ines pots

this creature scammed tf out of me

I'll never get p6 now

[sinful sparrow]

fraud outside of is4 wtf bro

:joyplush: