is-station

[nocturne cape]

def supp is especially good after hoshi because it is the only class squad where you wanna see both voucher

[winged tapir]

What's the best way to deal with this map? Don't want to take chenalter just to clear it

[inland elbow]

I know exu is considered really good, but aren't talismans a big problem for her

[dim oar]

Hoshi alt S2 is good for Ed 1 ?

[sullen temple]

is this enough to beat is6 ending 2

[inland elbow]

I guess ed2 might justify it alone though

[cold fjord]

they are annoying but she can deal with them

[nocturne cape]

spec cast only wants spec, snipermed mostly care about sniper (kal is ok), and gvg really want 2 guards

def supp is fine with def or supp

[nocturne cape]

yes

if you get spec guard supp talisman on summon epoch, exu's ability to F2 bosky is basically shut down

it really messes with her

[cold fjord]

oh in f2 bosky context?
yeah exu is cooked with talisman epoch

[dusk creek]

ya talisman is probably worst epoch for exu into f2 bosky

sp and dp are easier to cope

[winged tapir]

Can someone give tips for this plz

[nocturne cape]

dp is generally speaking fine

for every comp

sp is acceptable because her cycle is short

but talisman

it sucks

[cold fjord]

dp is fine unless you also have another +dp relic

then

[faint rampart]

no raidian or ethan?

[inland elbow]

It seems to me that if your strat relies on ur ops not getting cooked by talismans that it's not a great look

Is the distribution of epochs in is6 known

[nocturne cape]

no idea

but i do feel like its not weighted equally

[dusk creek]

that's just a speccas problem for f2 bosky I think

[inland elbow]

I mean in general, whenever I got that thing

[dusk creek]

gvg has leizi entel ideally

[inland elbow]

Exu would just be bricked until it was gone

Which is just stinky

[cold fjord]

isn't the talisman epoch by default not weighted equally since you can get it twice?

[winged tapir]

Raidian still not e2 sadly, didn't think i would need ethan

[inland elbow]

I'm at low diff though and unpracticed though

[faint rampart]

oh boy

[inland elbow]

So I could just not know the counterplay

[nocturne cape]

yeah

[nocturne cape]

you cant remove them

so shes bricked for the game

[faint rampart]

good luck, maybe exu can carry i dunno

[nocturne cape]

words on the street you can remove hours in dlc2

no solid evidence on that tho

[cold fjord]

its ok just wait till dlc2

[dusk creek]

yeah it just pretty bad in general for exu

but there's not too much you can do to counterplay it

[cold fjord]

you can

get chalice

u might be stupid

[dusk creek]

I think most maps aren't really that fast so being delayed isn't that bad after a certain point esp with end3 relic

it's mega ass if you get that + ballsack later though

[cold fjord]

yes the maps don't rush you for the most part

if the design was like is4 tho it would suck ass all the way

[dusk creek]

just get curio for f2 bosky

apparently it negates talisman for exu

idk why

she activates skill immediately and there's no talisman spawn

[cold fjord]

???

[nocturne cape]

yum

[dusk creek]

idk if I saw it wrongly or it's bugged like that

[nocturne cape]

fresh desire fulfilled too

[dusk creek]

but I had it a few days ago

once I had the end3 relic the interaction didn't work any more

so I'm not sure if it's a general curio bug or specifically exu

[nocturne cape]

[mint gull]

When's the next is exp?

[faint rampart]

tourist best for a reason

[cold fjord]

in like

3 months

or 7 days if ur on cn

[mint gull]

[dusk creek]

I saw a random sa alt mlynar f2 bosky playlist :joyplush:

vgg no guard f1 saved with sa alt

[mint gull]

Its kinda crazy how strong leader squad is in this is

[nocturne cape]

interesting

how good is it tho

SA mlynar

[dusk creek]

hm a good number of the clears are like sa + mly + surfer

so maybe for 1 candle consistency you need more than just sa mly

[nocturne cape]

i think thats good enough

because you're basically assuming no guard if you're running sa mlyn

so you always have 2 vg vouchers

unless its E2 SA + E2 Mlyn + E1 surfer

in that case fraud

[dusk creek]

Yeah it’s e2 sa + surfer

🥹

I guess this is a separate comp, and sa alt isn't necessarily going to be good if you did entel or leizi start

[ancient tree]

How is haruka in is6

I assume she isn't as good because she is fighting with radian for supporter ticket

[nocturne cape]

decent

she can be your supporter 2nd draft

[carmine token]

take hoshi bro

[nocturne cape]

0 leak

[abstract marsh]

phil swift would be proud

[narrow cosmos]

Is Haruka worth drafting in IS?

[inland elbow]

she's good in is6

not in other ones

[narrow cosmos]

Why 6 specifically?

[inland elbow]

beneficial range, doing damage helps with talismans

[narrow cosmos]

Tho I guess theres some heavy competition for Supporter tags

[inland elbow]

might want to ask someone who plays is6 more than me

[narrow cosmos]

Raidian & Tragodia both hunger for the Support

[inland elbow]

you don't really draft trag if ur not doing ed1

[keen briar]

question, whats the best chars to borrow in each IS?

[inland elbow]

kinda a weird question

[keen briar]

and is it worth it to level some 4* ops just for is

[keen briar]

wdym, cant u borrow chars for is? surely there are better chars over others

[inland elbow]

yeah, but it depends on your roster

and your goals

[keen briar]

just want the rewards asap tbh

[narrow cosmos]

Yes. Click, Gummy, Jaye/Gravel/Ethan are all pretty useful.

[inland elbow]

can probably just draft wisadel or exu alter and just have them carry you

4* are only really important for is5 and 6

[keen briar]

for every is?

[inland elbow]

yes

[keen briar]

exu alter is just using s2, right?

[narrow cosmos]

Yes.

[inland elbow]

almost always yeah

[keen briar]

its really only the ones i want to do

[narrow cosmos]

and Wisadel on S3, unless you are doing IS5, Or its a stage with a lot of the Ling dudes hitcount spam

[keen briar]

why is5 isnt recommended to do s3?

ohhh, hitcount i c

[narrow cosmos]

S2 better

[inland elbow]

wis s2 is a good skill in general, it's context dependent which one you want to take

but if you just want to finish is5 rewards

[narrow cosmos]

Is5 can give you really big attack boosts, Skill 2 is better for it.

Skill 3 is the more generally useful one

[inland elbow]

just take wis and lamp spam ed1

for is6 I think people advocate for borrowing trag

[narrow cosmos]

I don't think Tragodia is a good starter

[keen briar]

alr, 2 more things
1: i assume u shouldnt get any 5*s, just go for 6
and 2: if a char is already good at s2, should u still go for the upgrade for e2

[inland elbow]

1: if all you want are rewards then I wouldn't bother investing in 5*

there's plenty of good 5* and the meta and investment can get deep

but I don't get that vibe

[keen briar]

i have some 5*s built already

[inland elbow]

2: yes because stats and 2nd talent matter a lot

[keen briar]

alr, thanks!

[narrow cosmos]

If you already have 5*s built, they can help in IS6.

2: Depends, some characters are much stronger at E2. Masteries are great, Module is great

[mild coral]

Hows hoshi alter in is6?

[steel relic]

extremely strong

[keen briar]

so, if a char is way better on e2 even if it uses s2, u should still go for e2?

[mild coral]

Thank god defender vouchers arent complete bricks now

[narrow cosmos]

Yes.

Some don't matter that much, But most operators REALLY want it

[keen briar]

alr, thanks!

[narrow cosmos]

Exualt S2 gets a massive damage boost for example. And shes very much worth that boost

Some operators don't need to be E2'd depending on the situation. But thats very much situational

Tragodia sometimes doesn't care too much, if you have enough attack boosts.

And most 4*s you probably will ditch later so don't bother.

[muted tundra]

@stray dove @prime mountain okay but that doesn't answer my question on which skill to prio

because s2 has better dps gains and a more critical sp gain

even if I'd usually favor s3 here

asking mostly for is6 i suppose

eh maybe I'll figure it out after a few runs

[faint rampart]

[muted tundra]

hai ellets

[faint rampart]

hi curious thing

[muted tundra]

or maybe i just m6 her and stop worrying

[faint rampart]

? swirealt

[muted tundra]

hoshi

[prime mountain]

You do

Both of her skills are too good to pass up on

[muted tundra]

yea....

[prime mountain]

s2 with like, liquor or something is crazy

s3 alone is amazing

[muted tundra]

you're right T_T

my poor mats

[distant blaze]

What skill should i be using on may on early and late game on IS?

[narrow cosmos]

A lil relic and map dependent. I normally go S2 tho.

[stray dove]

it's not about the skill getting bigger gains/spikes per mastery. It's about the peaks a skill can reach with it.

and when we're talking the best nuke skills in the game, yeah those small increases carry
Just prio S3M3 and then go to S2M3

[distant blaze]

Ok ty

[narrow cosmos]

S1 is valid depending on relics, and on the map tho

S2 before IS6 generally (random Duck spawns, she murders him with S2)

random minibosses don't seem to spawn in IS6 so its really a mixup on S1 and S2

[nocturne cape]

If youre building hoshi for IS6 S3M3 is quite needed

S3 is the skill you use exclusively in bosky, 19 sec charge time vs 8 sec charge time is night and day

[stray dove]

and the only times i can see Hoshitter use S2 is for stalling which i mostly see on Yi

[nocturne cape]

Well

You can kinda swap between her skills

[stray dove]

well sure if you don't want her nuking anything'

[nocturne cape]

If you want a more consistent lanehold you can use s2

Which you do favor sometimes

[stray dove]

but i would just try to keep S3 like an emergency for most fights if i didn't plan for her to be the main nuker

in case things go south

for van stalling, sure i'd pick S2

although I might be scared of her killing it faster than I wanted

[paper kayak]

the kinda shit you roll when you need any sort of ground presence

[wet zealot]

Kal'tsit draft maybe ?

[paper kayak]

yeah that'd be the play but alas 4 hope in is4

[shrewd pier]

Deepcolor is pretty alright

[stray dove]

ngl IS4 for me was mostly Spot+Fang

[wary zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/arknights-roberta-ambience-synesthesia-airplane-gif-13881798937922496481

[stray dove]

and Ines for ground blocking

Mlynar is a non-blocker until nuking so i didn't count on him much for that

[paper kayak]

at the time I had Fang and Eblana (speccast auto promote moment) and was trying to get a 2nd 2 or 3 block

[stray dove]

Jessalter was something I picked back then pre-Expansion IS4

[paper kayak]

this draft is gonna send the is4 players to an early grave

[stray dove]

all i was saying from my paragraph was, as much as there's a need for ground presence to block in IS4, it was mostly early on and it felt not too necessary way later

[paper kayak]

what are YOU doing here

[nocturne cape]

Pause the run and wait 3 months

Thoughts?

[paper kayak]

might be cooking....

[stray dove]

agreed

[keen briar]

Why in the world in 2 consecutive runs, king relics didnt show up

[nocturne cape]

Youre at 2 LP

[stray dove]

someone didn't read Lamp instructions

[nocturne cape]

they can only appear when youre at 1 LP

[stray dove]

Lamp gives specific relics when a condition is met

[keen briar]

ohhh 🤦‍♂️ i lost the plan in both runs so the thoughts became normal

[stray dove]

read em up

[keen briar]

anyways, thanks

[paper kayak]

ok the 6star temp recruit fordartal was being pretty fraudulent my last few runs but uh

[faint rampart]

hoshi2 solving so many bosky stages, sorry for doubting

[prime mountain]

Actually insane value

[faint rampart]

now you're gonna ban her right 🥹

[stray dove]

for anyone that has pride?

absolutely

[prime mountain]

She gets new unit pass for at least 2 months bro doesnt count

[gaunt bay]

Hai furrilo

Have you meowed

:3

[stray dove]

and then 1 month after that pass, she becomes more absurd with her module

would she be banned then?

[prime mountain]

idk I'll see then

but it is pretty funny that my first 2+3 clear was done on the like, 2nd run I tried with hoshi

[faint rampart]

Wthelly

[stray dove]

people really underestimate the feeling of having a ground Logos S3 with HP almost double than Ulp

and on-demand Surtr with that same S3

[wraith cloak]

Is boosted goldenglow still Goated or is she washed

[faint rampart]

uhh casters fraud class so i did underestimate it abit, mb

[stray dove]

you underestimated Logos during his debut too?

[slate hull]

just unlocked this thing, is this as bad as I think it is? that is pretty much just the charcoal mask all over again

[gaunt bay]

Logos has been washed for a fat minute

Zero util wcyd

[faint rampart]

(i didn't play during his release) but in general content he does pretty great

IS not so sure, not this IS6 atleast
is5 had beeg buffs to make him look strong (i guess?)

[stray dove]

Years ago I used to dream of a laner like Hoshitter.
Me giving Surtr S2M3 was proof of that crave.

[stray dove]

ummm no you don't use Logos in IS5.

that's the thing about IS. General DPS relics buffs everyone. So not much point going arts unless you fight someone like Khagan

[gaunt bay]

Logos peaked in 4 :joyplush:

[prime mountain]

He's fine on talons

[keen briar]

if i use hoshi alter s3 immortality on the is5 1st ending boss, am i able to avoid it caging my ops?

[faint rampart]

is that so, i only played d10 so goober recruitments

[stray dove]

what caging?

[faint rampart]

Fremont?

[gaunt bay]

The thing on death

[stray dove]

oh the teleport

[gaunt bay]

From fremont

[stray dove]

no

that ain't death

he just relocated you

[gaunt bay]

Not the teleport

Bruh

[stray dove]

oh that

well

it will only affect Hoshitter

once she yeets out

[keen briar]

it was the teleport

[stray dove]

[keen briar]

thought that was counted as death lol

[stray dove]

nah

[keen briar]

but even the death it doesnt work?

[gaunt bay]

What does that have to do with caging

It didnt cage ops to begin with

Only teleport

[stray dove]

any retreat is caging, no?

[gaunt bay]

If hoshi dies she gets caged

[keen briar]

retreat doesnt count as death either???

[gaunt bay]

Retreats will cage

[stray dove]

jesus christ i do Fremont so smoothly I've forgotten a lot of cage interactions

[gaunt bay]

Pretty much every on death mechanic works with on retreat

[stray dove]

i don't remember any thing about him

[ionic cradle]

"Move" does not count as retreat which is why Ulpianus can abuse Fremont in the first place (Fremont uses move effect)

[keen briar]

got it, thanks

[ionic cradle]

Move feels like it's more considered a deploy effect rather than retreat/defeat

[gaunt bay]

It is yeah

Its considered a redeploy

[stray dove]

it's a rare effect anyways

it's only done by Fremont and Witch King

[ionic cradle]

it becomes common soon, but not gon spoil as much

[stray dove]

i forgot

Fisher guy

it was nibbling at the back of my mind

why was a relocation so recent in my mind? FISHER GUY!

[grizzled nexus]

Wrong refresh bruh

[ionic cradle]

Sudden doom

[faint rampart]

garrison

[ionic cradle]

You can retoss the coin to regain it's refresh

[ionic cradle]

Bruhv

Gg

(the good way)

[grizzled nexus]

Though it will be cheesed by ASPD

[ionic cradle]

(A sign of envy via luck)

[ionic cradle]

oh, very well then

[stray dove]

my dude you got this

too tanky to die

that's good enough in Garrison

[nocturne cape]

Stove and handheld console

more than enough

[ionic cradle]

I thought one of Wang's mission was defeating him via destroying all his balls, but didn't knew it was instead about bruteforcing him

[stray dove]

well you can kill all his pieces

to make phase 2 faster

but yeah a pain in the ass

[ionic cradle]

I meant the story mission

[stray dove]

Clarity?

ehhh

[ionic cradle]

Yeah

[stray dove]

i doubt HG would be too assholish to make you do that

you literally flipped the game board to get Masterplan

i think that's enough "attention"

iirc same goes for other required fights in IS4 Ed4 and IS5 Ed1

you just needed to survive those fights

you didn't have an objective to kill everyone or something of the sorts iirc?

[grizzled nexus]

We can travel vertically on Prophecy node with that red cleaver tongbao? What will happen? Though I doubt it will do anything

[faint rampart]

nothing fun has happened so far

[remote badger]

nothing

[slate hull]

there is probably some insane niche nodes travelled interaction you can pull off with this, but no idea aside from that

[wanton fulcrum]

Place roadblock like this right

Omg the fuckass treasure spawned there

[stray dove]

just wake it up

and leak it

is what i would do

but yeah

change your roadblock layout for now

[slate hull]

how much money do they steal?

it seems like it is around 10 ingots, but I don't know the exact number

[stray dove]

i really don't care that much

since ingots are a "bonus" past F1 for me

and it's not like IS5 wherein every ingot counts to get Lamp Chalice

[ionic cradle]

You can still place in a way to block em

[faint rampart]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1413566253506760724.png

[ionic cradle]

Minus the other block

Idk if this phone had a marker, so I used the blur thing

[slate hull]

oh, it actually is 10 ingots, it is +10 if you kill it and -10 if you leak it

[ionic cradle]

The thing menacing about the chest is depending on how rich you are it shreds compared to the other mimic chests

[stray dove]

this would have to do but yeah....enemies would have less pathing required to get to blue box

[wanton fulcrum]

Did it

[ionic cradle]

tbh the only slightly threatful enemy there is that crab when you don't have much arts

[wanton fulcrum]

At least it gives a supporter voucher so I can upg Trag

[faint rampart]

matoi skin

[ionic cradle]

I have the feeling peeps should use Ptiloptis as a starting 5* more due to sp regen adding up with relics

[arctic panther]

people should use ptilo more in general

[native sky]

-6💀

If u don’t have aoe

Gl

Don’t unzip the big guy

Otherwise

[ionic cradle]

Ngl the cup hp is fairly short

Also big guy you can use Raidian S2 or 3 and still works I believe

[native sky]

But when emergency with e1 GeExu

And only arts is e1 raidian

Which can’t even kill one cup

[stray dove]

and thus....

thats why i don't even bother putting Caster vouchers in conserved

and just recruit Click in case

[nocturne cape]

Damn no respect for nymph

[devout veldt]

this fuckass challenge has crashed my game TWICE THERE IS AN EVIL MALICIOUS FORCE IN THIS

[sick mason]

Device issue

[gaunt bay]

nimf is okay i think

@nocturne cape what does nimf mod do

[nocturne cape]

Idfk bro shes cute so i mod3

[gaunt bay]

er

miss catstine

[nocturne cape]

Cute

Grab

[gaunt bay]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586588921614303233/1357693435162792017/76aeaf1a7f53519c0527f905a082702f.gif

[sick mason]

The lady

[gaunt bay]

its the Mysterious and Elegant Creature

[floral plaza]

first d15 clear :ya:

also first time i actually seen feng emerg

0 leaks in it :clueless:

[gaunt bay]

:clueless:

[sick mason]

Looks like Kiwi and Miss.Christine are long lost siblings 🏃

OHHHH YEYO

[nocturne cape]

Gg

[gaunt bay]

what a bunch of highrollers

[obsidian haven]

[nocturne cape]

Mere 49 relics

[obsidian haven]

come highroll in mayhem

[nocturne cape]

Eww league

[sinful sparrow]

hi cube
post nymph art

Thank u

[nocturne cape]

Ill come next time maybe

[sinful sparrow]

[gaunt bay]

@nocturne cape e damage refers to like the bar thing right

not the actual proc

[nocturne cape]

https://www.pixiv.net/users/90847988

[faint rampart]

congrats

[sinful sparrow]

thanks yall

:YA:

[nocturne cape]

yeah

[faint rampart]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1089677498859663410.gif

[gaunt bay]

bruh thats gonna take forever

🥹

okay time to remake the event autodeploy with nimf

[nocturne cape]

OF-1

[warm monolith]

man i want a legend node

[gaunt bay]

i was going to just go like

murder someone with nimfturia s3

man

[nocturne cape]

Wait until you do waaifu’s mod

Cancer

[gaunt bay]

im not doing waiifu mod

bro thinks im gonna have leftover spec tickets

real funny bro

[nocturne cape]

If you dont have room then make room

[gaunt bay]

🥀

[sinful sparrow]

bro can just not draft exu

[warm monolith]

surely the legend node for the ed2 is not rare right....

[sinful sparrow]

+2 spec tickets

🙀

[nocturne cape]

Join me in ascalon gaming

[faint rampart]

you will get it on worst moments dw

[nocturne cape]

(Until swire is trustfarmed)

[sinful sparrow]

ascalon my favorite ed2 left solve (she sucks dick)

my swire is unraised 😭

[nocturne cape]

Honestly i think ascalon is still quite good

[sinful sparrow]

only good thing is that shes 200% trust cuz i am oldge

gonna have to raise

for stuffs

[nocturne cape]

Just dont be a dummy and have her defend left solo

Her en route is really comfy

Good at e1 too

Unlike mizuki

But mizuki is prob better post e2

[sinful sparrow]

mizooker stronger bosky if e2

and en routep

cock

[crisp scaffold]

She what

[compact gorge]

Should i risk collab banner for hoshi

[faint rampart]

:bucu:

[compact gorge]

[sick mason]

You do you :v

The fact that HG timed the Ave Mujica collab 1 month after the beginning of Ato event is quite diabolical

[faint rampart]

hoshi+ raidian(if you want) really makes bosky ez experience methinks

heard that sakiko only has dmg

[nocturne cape]

We might get them even sooner

Since we got pepe event rerun first

[compact gorge]

I'm done

[sick mason]

Didn't something like this happen as well during the Who is Real and Operation Originium Dust event too?

[nocturne cape]

Saki is the #1 glazed operator by CN IS6 community

I have my doubts

But shes at least fine

[sinful sparrow]

omg sakichan

[nocturne cape]

Saki feels like a wisadel to some extent

[compact gorge]

Deleted wuwa for enfield

[nocturne cape]

Good after e2 but you need to survive her useless e1

[compact gorge]

Better be worth it

[gaunt bay]

the world is healing

[nocturne cape]

Except her e1 is even worse

[compact gorge]

[nocturne cape]

Than wisadel’s

[sinful sparrow]

CN plays 24 though 🥀

not 23

[faint rampart]

should've deleted wuwa just for your own sake :ggnod:

[sinful sparrow]

how cringe id this

[nocturne cape]

Correct

[sick mason]

Ah so u prepared for it :roshype:

[nocturne cape]

I think saki is still fine if youre doing 23

Wouldnt rate her higher than leizi but shes fine

[sick mason]

We're gonna keep our factories going 🗣️

[sinful sparrow]

i mean shes great damage against feet

surely

[nocturne cape]

Yes

One of the best

She also doesnt care about ending 4 debuff that much

[gaunt bay]

aint her whole schtick just st damage

[nocturne cape]

Yes

[sinful sparrow]

swire is also st dmg

but noone slanders her

[compact gorge]

Used to do self restraint clears for fun
But nothing new to offer from devs in terms of combat and team building

[sinful sparrow]

Wtf

[nocturne cape]

Nope i know youre a doubter

[sinful sparrow]

i am a doubter

[remote badger]

gm iss

[sinful sparrow]

👍

[gaunt bay]

hai

[remote badger]

i slept not so long

[sinful sparrow]

bro is gonna look at filthy exu drafter on cn

[compact gorge]

Everyone's gonna steal peters blueprint

[sinful sparrow]

and tell me i am not a doubter

that would be crazy!

[gaunt bay]

the fucking

pyramids

[sinful sparrow]

L

i have 11 spare on CN and noone to spend them on

[gaunt bay]

i think ive gone through like 10 of them this update already

this is so diabolical actually

ato shop better have at least 1 of these mats

[faint rampart]

just have this new character and goon for it bro, best kuro can offer/

[compact gorge]

I love nymph so much
It hurts me so much to think about her use cases

[gaunt bay]

:lappphone:

[lost anchor]

When next add level for is6

[gaunt bay]

13 days

[lost anchor]

Alr nice

[sick mason]

Add level always at the beginning of each month

[gaunt bay]

ah fuck the jump between mod2 and 3 is actually pretty huge

10% more damage and 5 aspd

[sinful sparrow]

stfu kiwi

didnt ask

[gaunt bay]

okay?

idc

okay got her mod3 time to try it :clueless:

[faint rampart]

romantic

[split void]

These proficiencies. Do I have them if I
-borrow Raidian?
-use special squad ?

[sinful sparrow]

Proficiencies are the same as if it’s your own Raidian

[split void]

So borrow is good right ?

[sinful sparrow]

for the stats and the mastery sure

[split void]

Gonna grind for my friend. Seem like raidian only good because of those proficiencies

Idk

[tacit hollow]

can some1 show me the stage for this?

[faint rampart]

【五层不期而遇 观者自在 20锭 紧急 劫罚-哔哩哔哩】 https://b23.tv/VOsX4k2

[gaunt bay]

er

i think you should just not take it

[tacit hollow]

ty

[sick mason]

Blud choose the normal version at least

[viral flare]

Swire-alter IS module is kinda cracked, right? Up to 68 4% attack stacks sounds downright silly

[tacit hollow]

oh

thts 💀

no hoshi = gg

[gaunt bay]

yeahhh

as i said

dont take it

i have like 2 whole pages of operator backlog

very fun

[grizzled nexus]

Raidian new floor buff proficiency works normally even if we recruit her in floor 3 and 4 right?

[split void]

So you mean no ?

[viral flare]

It works. But you don't get all buffs from previous floors retroactively

[split void]

Oh crap Raidian is 6 hope

[hazy orchid]

Uh, why is he here? Which option should i pick?

[round trellis]

you took a loan from big bob

and he's here to collect

cannot on his way to take food from the hands of a single mother of 3

[nocturne cape]

The fact that hoshi get the undying talent at e1 is a little silly

[sinful sparrow]

proof?

[hazy orchid]

So, you fight him in the bottom option?

[sinful sparrow]

i need solid evidence

not “its written like that”

[split void]

Fight him easy stage

[round trellis]

yes, that's the fight; tbh the stage is pretty easy, easier than the floor 4 and 5 shop rob

[hazy orchid]

Ok then, here goes nothing

[restive shale]

well I found a way to deal with ending 3, thanks haruka

[sinful sparrow]

7 op 💀

[restive shale]

5 op technically, civilight and scene were just rando's I was able to grab

both helped vs ending 1 boss

[nocturne cape]

Nice

Yeah haruka is very good in ed3

[cedar crane]

Got boned in bosky f2

Dp steal wareuser
2 laterano guys with cannon
Withered knight
And can't pass doubts

[faint rampart]

support squad user

[keen briar]

is there any reward on getting different endings or is it just purely for story?

[split void]

After clearing D13. I still have no idea wth this is

[flint token]

Battlepass exp

[split void]

Oh so you level up faster

[stray dove]

Promotion spree has been quite the vacuum

[south mason]

hey is it good to bring haruka to IS

usually i just go with 4* healer to heal

was wondering to get a better one to keep the team survive

[severe oasis]

she works

[nocturne cape]

Yes

[south mason]

wich skill she usually gonna use most of time may i know?

[nocturne cape]

S2

[south mason]

alright, tyty

[severe oasis]

haruka is #1 supporter EVER. there is nobody else dont name anyone else

[nocturne cape]

[south mason]

it's okay tragodia i'm with you

oh lord.. i'm so dumb i tought it's for maxed operator skill to m3

[nocturne cape]

it is?

[south mason]

eh

[sick mason]

Uhh because it is M3 any 6* skill

[south mason]

it's for m3 too??

[sick mason]

Just one skill for one 6*

[obsidian needle]

m3 is specialization level 3

so yes

[sick mason]

So better off using it to anyone that still sl7

[south mason]

at first i'm about to use it, the UI
i tought it's for E2 ops

[nocturne cape]

you cant put mastery on E1 units

thats why

[sick mason]

Imagine if there's something called "Top Operator Module Specialization Pack" where it just instantly mod3 any module u want

[split void]

Upgrade in Plan ?

[remote badger]

plan node in bosky

[split void]

Hey I have Shu avatar too

[gaunt bay]

Ur my #1

[severe oasis]

can we get married

[gaunt bay]

[split void]

[remote badger]

a marriage?

can i attend it

[burnt lantern]

Hey2, for what specific purpose you guys draft hoshi2 in IS6? I feel if it is for hit count purpose, previous meta op still do just great

[faint rampart]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/790851224936513558.png

[burnt lantern]

Or for high dif?

[faint rampart]

may you two have a happy life ahead of you

wtf red3

[faint rampart]

bosky

[gaunt bay]

"Mr President a second Red clone has hit the Station"

[nocturne cape]

goldfish power

[gaunt bay]

shes so >w<

[severe oasis]

thats the face i make everyday

[craggy shadow]

Declare my Foldartals

[timber heart]

Hi, sorry noob player who’s just super proud of himself because after hours of trying I just beat IS6 for the first time. Anyways I had a question.

Can tragodia’s cat pull Yi or how do I properly do the stall tactic with the cat and gravel?

[gaunt bay]

Me when i see u

[severe oasis]

drag him into the top left or right corner of the middle section, block with gravel. when he starts summoning the bombs, wait for the second set of bombs to explode, then put cat in the corner again and block with gravel again, and just repeat until he dies

[severe oasis]

meow

[gaunt bay]

mao

:3

[faint rampart]

https://youtu.be/RDLSsuIdT1w?feature=shared this?

[nocturne cape]

congrats

[faint rampart]

uh oh cube himself is here

[gaunt bay]

the cubicle

[severe oasis]

why is this uh oh

[timber heart]

Yi was not walking toward the cat for some reason. Tragodia was only E1 idk if that matters. Does Yi need to be blocked to be able to walk toward cat?

[flint token]

alternatively if you have a strong enough tanker you can just let them eat the bombs

[gaunt bay]

hoshi2

[severe oasis]

you timed it wrong while he was charging an attack. thats why you wait for the second set of bombs

yi stops like, a lot, to do some random bullshit

[flint token]

Yi wont walk when he’s charging his carper bombers or when he’s being untargettable (piss aura)

[faint rampart]

sharing the vid but suddenly its creator is also present, feels kinda awkward

[severe oasis]

and you cant force him to move in that state

[gaunt bay]

cube is always goated

[timber heart]

Okay sorry I’m very noob so ty for patience in advance. So with Tragodia cat and Yi. The only time I can move him is when he’s moving himself or are there other times I can move him?

[severe oasis]

you can move him while hes moving or while hes idle at a checkpoint but not while hes using a skill or invulnerable

[muted skiff]

3f bonus 7>3 2plan

man the rate

[sick mason]

I should've dumped this two-riverspring earlier

[muted skiff]

chances of getting 2 plan start is lower than 50%

[timber heart]

Is there an easy way to tell what his skill animations are? There’s a lot of visual clutter with the ghosts and everything

[severe oasis]

when he starts moving his hands around and being silly

[stray dove]

he only has 1 tell

he dances

and boom, ghosts

[dim oar]

Ya the river risk not so good

[timber heart]

Got it. When he’s pulling out his sword or whatever, can he be pulled by the cat then or is that also a skill?

[dim oar]

The add 30 ingot -10 per toss that one is 💩

[stray dove]

no

when he's idle

or when he's not walking

he ain't getting cat'd

invul also means he can't be cat'd

it takes a while for him to get off invul in phase 2 transition

[sick mason]

Just remove it as soon as u get it

[severe oasis]

if he stops moving and he does anything with his hands he cant be lured

[stray dove]

thats why i love stating that even if Yi is decimated by Cat stall

he's also the most annoying boss to Cat stall

if ain't his dance/idle, it's Liangs moving towards to cat first

[dim oar]

Most of the risk coin all not so good to take

[timber heart]

Ok thank you all! I’m so nervous to try again. I need 2 more clears to work up and finish getting radian to E2. One down today which makes me happy 🙂 the guides were great TY all

[dim oar]

If you find Ling and have 200 ingot then the game will be easy, if you are on support squad

Nian is also not bad. The other dragon that eat hope are bad

Gamble with hope

[sick mason]

I'm not sure how to define "most" not so good because I think a lot of them are worth

Dream curio, 99 DP, bloodshed spill, LeiFa (depends whether u have bell or not), mortalendurance

[dim oar]

The West Lianzhen mt good

[faint rampart]

risk coin for the coupon relic :ggnod:

[sick mason]

City concerns also quite good tbh

Law and order can be double edged sword, biding time it depends on the starting mobs, painter's realm only in wonderland

[dim oar]

I remember the reduce sp auto activate skill is good

[sick mason]

That's dream curio coin

-40% SP cost but all skills are auto activate

[dim oar]

Wis adel auto skill 3

[sick mason]

Arduous trade is poggers

[dim oar]

Westlainzhen mt is bad. Elite and leader +10% and plus extra for enemy. What about balance?

Take risk but no risk reward how come

[errant siren]

Yes, pure debuff coins exist and they initially gained when you start the run on higher diff.

You can freely switch coins over those one.

[ionic cradle]

It's supposed to be a Difficulty 7 coin where you start out with risk coins that only do downsides

[sick mason]

We're almost there

[ionic cradle]

It's usually only a challenge for tourists squads, but other than that Difficulty 7's threat was mostly about un-stat nerfing bosky enemies

[dim oar]

It is challenging for that squad and good for support squad

[dim oar]

So I need to change other the risky coin asap on higher difficulty

[ionic cradle]

Prioritize the one that can giver leaders Atk

and then afterwards the defense one

[dim oar]

Tourist squad is tough

[grizzled nexus]

Holy shit! This Duck and Yi stage is a buffet mini boss version!

[dim oar]

The leg can kill Hoshi alt when skill 2 right?

[languid patio]

I have a question

[sick mason]

The leg can retreat anyone

[languid patio]

can Logos counter the ling event mobs?

[ionic cradle]

It's not that hard ngl, all the Ducklord gang circles around the area for a bit, and you're probably already prepared to kill off the caster dudes from that organisation

[dim oar]

Awww so nobody can survive leg

[grizzled nexus]

Leg attack automatic retreat any unit

[languid patio]

the ones that split themselves and have hit count based HP when the said enemy is defeated?

[ionic cradle]

Maybe if necrosis proc... Slightly helps?

[severe oasis]

no, his instakill is actually just one hit of like 9.9 million true damage, so it just deals 1 hp to them

[languid patio]

ok

[ionic cradle]

necrosis is his main source of extra hps for them

[errant siren]

No, he cannot oneshot hit-count enemies.

Unfortunately.

[ionic cradle]

and S2 but it's ineffective to those specific ones

[languid patio]

so I need Ethan or Ascalon eh

[errant siren]

Yep

[ionic cradle]

oh he's talking bout s1 instakill

[sick mason]

Or Wisadel S2

[languid patio]

S1

I am thinking of his S1

[arctic panther]

sui doesnt do damage with the initial stomp, its a force retreat

[arctic panther]

also HOW

[ionic cradle]

Could be the EX encounter I think...?

[dense vortex]

Testing Hoshi Alter on IS, yeah she's really good

with deploy timer reduction relics she gets reallly spammable with S3

[grizzled nexus]

RNG of course. First time I encountered this version.
I had battled Duck and Yi in floor 6 and still get the normal version.
Quite surprised encountered this mini boss buffet version in floor 5

[dense vortex]

Unfortunately I didn't get to pull the goldfish for heavy heals

[arctic panther]

what option did you choose?

in the encounter

[grizzled nexus]

Still the first option. The one that had defeated their cronies 2-5 times

[arctic panther]

[ionic cradle]

Doesn't it get switched after 10 kills?

[grizzled nexus]

Oh, seems like I'm wrong. It's different. It appeared after defeating their cronies 6 times or more and the stage became Emergency version

[arctic panther]

o

[nocturne cape]

ed2 survival 👀

[ancient jacinth]

can end2 and end3 stack in is6

[severe oasis]

yeah they're on different floors

[ancient jacinth]

peam

[severe oasis]

all f5 endings can stack with all f6 endings in all IS themes, generally its just endings 3+4 that cant stack, but its possible in is4 specifically

[arctic panther]

but that requires some pretty decent luck to happen at the very end of a run so its not easy to get

[sinful sparrow]

Nope

[sharp harbor]

That dragon feet repeated stomping is physical dmg?

Not arts?

Just got defeated by him, I should've prio haruka for survival

[errant siren]

Yep

[sharp harbor]

Cat ain't doing good against that floating dagger

[errant siren]

The tap-tap-TAP is Phys.

[sharp harbor]

Overwhelmed by it, ethan dies to stomping dmg so can't stop it lol

[nocturne cape]

sleep

[lost anchor]

fuck you feng

[gaunt bay]

em fengshui is kinda ass

[nocturne cape]

3 wins in a row today

[gaunt bay]

john dalao

[faint rampart]

[dim oar]

The most ass map is the map with the monster hunter monster that have spike

Send in Wis adel one bang she die

[sonic sable]

At d15 u tankef the stomp with just waiifu?

[nocturne cape]

Nymph too

Dont forget

[dim oar]

Wow two leak

[sonic sable]

Oh nymph

What a pro

Do I do nymph?

Mod

[nocturne cape]

No need imo

If you have modblocks to spare sure

[faint rampart]

oh god im not doing this too

[sonic sable]

No one does

[pastel saffron]

5* agent not worth in IS4 right

[sonic sable]

Ines territory

[nocturne cape]

Its real!

5s is pretty acceptable tbh

[sonic sable]

Who was ur dps against the foot tho? Just yato?

[nocturne cape]

Raidian

Yato was e1

[sonic sable]

Ohh

[faint rampart]

secret dalao tech unlocked

[sonic sable]

I need to learn to do left lane

[nocturne cape]

If you lack damage leizi can help with the boss too

Alternatively you can switch up your draft

[sonic sable]

Is this exu ban?

[nocturne cape]

Instead of leizi ascalon do entel mizuki

Entel S3 at the middle bluebox

Mizuki pull everyone to the middle

Entel S3 on every slam

Entel S3 is great dps against the boss

[sonic sable]

Where's my entel

[nocturne cape]

Yes

No reason to not draft her otherwise

[sonic sable]

How is hoshi s2 for left?

[dim oar]

This one got use eh

[faint rampart]

somehow shield guards survived the stomp, unless thats just how it was meant to be

(no pic after the stomp)

[nocturne cape]

Not real

Unless you got good relics

Or dream curio

[nocturne cape]

Sui can only retreat units on deployable spots

Shieldguards’ tiles are not deployable

But they will count toward the feet’s target calculation

[faint rampart]

oh so thats why they survived

[static dragon]

feet cheesing start

[faint rampart]

was confused cuz they still contributed to mizuki getting targeted but didn't retreat

[static dragon]

afaik the 'attack' is force retreat, i dont know if it actually does damage on its own

[faint rampart]

we cant retreat sgaurds...but roadblocks possible

now i wonder traps would work or no

[pastel saffron]

this is for end3?

and how do I get end2 and 4

[errant siren]

End4

[pastel saffron]

no guide in pins

[errant siren]

End2 needs Lost and Found
End3 needs Scout

[static dragon]

you need special foldartal for end2 to get treescar helmet

[errant siren]

Pick weird options

[pastel saffron]

so rng?

[remote badger]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1o1hZIK4deBoexUTIcHLXe7pT6GIO2vd8/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=104690983706101053515&rtpof=true&sd=true

[static dragon]

it's fixed in lost and found iirc

[remote badger]

one in my clipboard

[errant siren]

HELLO?

Lost and Found node!

[pastel saffron]

LMAO

[static dragon]

we already done with RNG heavy ending in IS2

[pastel saffron]

omg Yomi thankyou so much

[pastel saffron]

is3 not giving me encounter of ending I want everytime be like

one time I got tlk in f3 somehow

[nocturne cape]

https://is-central.github.io/is4-expeditioners/love-in-sami/

theres a website version for this

[pastel saffron]

oh yeah I was reading

and I was like wait

its the github one

[pastel saffron]

Thankyou boss I'll go to nodes and see what it does

[small socket]

Hey can i just keep running it down with tragodia for ed2 in is6? My Radian is nowhere near built since im returnee (also some tips for 2 and 3 would be nice so i dont get murdered)

[errant siren]

-4 Collapse for End2 and Additional enemy reinforcements for End3

[remote badger]

mmm

[nocturne cape]

Tragodia is practically useless in ed2 unfortunately

[pastel saffron]

what to do the hidden powers mean on foldarts

[nocturne cape]

I recommend starting exusiai alter for ed2 chase

Much better

[ancient jacinth]

i was right.

[errant siren]

bye Fortune

[small socket]

Oh alright, thanks!

[pastel saffron]

end3 sounds easier than end2 ngl but the boss itself sucks on ed3 I heard, worse than tlk

[pastel saffron]

@errant siren yk this?

[errant siren]

Yep

[errant siren]

Umm, show screen, cannot tell blindly

[nocturne cape]

There are resources in pin that briefly go over each ending

[pastel saffron]

ok wait I am in battle

[pastel saffron]

i have seen this on multiple and tried but couldn't figure out what hidden power it showed

[errant siren]

Ah, if you color match it, it becomes Wish Fulfilled instead.

That's it.

[pastel saffron]

meaning green wirh green?

[errant siren]

Yep

Or multicolor one

Departure and something else

[pastel saffron]

how am I supposed to finf lost and found

it coukd be this or that

why are the nodes even hidden wtf hg

[errant siren]

Have higher Index (big number above).

[pastel saffron]

anti interference

[errant siren]

6+ opens WHOLE map completely

[pastel saffron]

so if I am low on anti

Its not guaranteed

[inland elbow]

Just go bottom path and you see both

[errant siren]

On 0, you CANNOT EVEN KNOW to what battle map you enter, lol.

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/G99pxRybcA0l4x0.gif

[left anchor]

...

Omfg

[pastel saffron]

so like an IS3 call of we many

[left anchor]

Doing ts without shu is hell

[errant siren]

It's just prepare your squad and I will tell you map title ONLY WHEN LOADING INTO STAGE.

https://tenor.com/view/w-wisadel-wiš'adel-arknights-darthilles-gif-17308451293588725777

hehehe

and you're in drone map without any AntiAir

because you thought it will be different map

[left anchor]

Collapsal swarm better

[errant siren]

so, keep Index at 1 at least

or bigger

[left anchor]

I always keep mine 2+

[sinful sparrow]

Shu isnt even good in this IS though …?

[left anchor]

I just find her comfy dealing with the left side

[nocturne cape]

Actually not the worst tech

She works on the left side yeah

[brave moss]

how can you beat the boss stage that has 3 statue?

[tepid hamlet]

does haruka s3 have any use on is? or rarely?

[nocturne cape]

Raidian S2 on the originium tile to start the stage, deploy medic amiya and use her S2 true damage to kill the chef

Once the chef dies the stage is easy

Its the chef + first master moving together that makes this stage annoying

[errant siren]

Pirate Shieldman really pain in the ass

Kill him ASAP.

[brave moss]

Can radian s2 survive the originum tile? Whenever i put someone on that tile they die fast

[nocturne cape]

They wont live forever, but you can replace them

[errant siren]

Or use huge AOE to not have a problem with

Like Wis

[lusty mesa]

which skill is swire using for is module

[nocturne cape]

S3 S1

Mastery wise only S3 is needed

[lusty mesa]

oh no not s2 ?

[errant siren]

How about spamming S2 Cola tho?

[nocturne cape]

S2 is usable too but not sure if its optimal anywhere

[errant siren]

[nocturne cape]

Like a fun gimmick ig

[lusty mesa]

hmm okok

[brave moss]

i wish i have e2 wis reliably

[sinful sparrow]

:gigampreg:

[nocturne cape]

hi mika

Try tourist squad

[faint rampart]

think i might tank sui today

[sinful sparrow]

i did

did not end well

[nocturne cape]

squads goated tho

[sinful sparrow]

maybe i try it out on CN

[nocturne cape]

Smh

[stray dove]

welcome to old ISs

[sinful sparrow]

yeah but i have skil issue 👍

raidian ban tourist into explosion

[nocturne cape]

Try it out on CN = i want to play the easy mode

Just

[ancient jacinth]

chat how long would it take for me to toss a tongbao 1,500 times

[nocturne cape]

Unban raidian

Thoughts?

[sinful sparrow]

maybe

i think tourist is goated though

very high ceiling

[nocturne cape]

Good floor too

[sinful sparrow]

true you can get 3 combats on f1 without robbing

[nocturne cape]

You have enough coupon to vertical travel without entering bosky on F2

[sinful sparrow]

pretty cool

[nocturne cape]

Can also maximize tongbao value

The good ones

[sinful sparrow]

f1 is 🥹 though

[nocturne cape]

Just raidian gaming

You play defsupp with e1 raidian you should know this

[stray dove]

Tourist at least makes Tongbao value more consistent

[sinful sparrow]

err yeah

[stray dove]

with less coupons to worry for

thats the point of the squad

if it ain't a 5-stack of broken coins

it's just to make your choice mostly be tossed

[nocturne cape]

Tourist make tongbao a pretty consistent win con

I never lack damage on ed2 because i can always trade into good tongbaos in Plan

[stray dove]

thats why i advise people to not rely too much on tongbao as your main strat

unless you used Tourist

and had coupons to burn

[sinful sparrow]

a part inside me twitches whenever i see -45% HP

[nocturne cape]

Yep

[stray dove]

I'd rather have Curio

[nocturne cape]

Goated

[sinful sparrow]

/+60% ATK

[stray dove]

skill spam is stronger for me than anything

[sinful sparrow]

blud is gonna say curio until it cucks his ed2

L

[nocturne cape]

Technically you can time your exu

[sinful sparrow]

yeah that works too

[nocturne cape]

Just need to do some calc

But my lazy ass wont so

[sinful sparrow]

calc too hard

i play two times that shit on kobile

i just rock

if i leak i leak

i have 600 LP to care

[stray dove]

my dudee

Spill cucks Ed2 harder

for me

and i;m not an idiot in curio killing my ed2 strat. I always make sure the foot stall is far from my vicinity

[sinful sparrow]

???

@nocturne cape look at ts

🥀

im not gonna talk to this mf in anything

regards to this theme anymore

[stray dove]

your choice

[nocturne cape]

I think its a relic count related issue

If you average a high amount of relics every game bloodshed spill basically free

[sinful sparrow]

no way mf said “x1.8 final damage against every enemy” bad

[stray dove]

there will always be runs with less tank relics

[sinful sparrow]

😭

[stray dove]

and i've felt them in Ed2

without Spill

i felt like a glass cannon barely hanging

[sinful sparrow]

bro drafts exu d12
why do you care

you dont need tank relics for that shit

[stray dove]

I've been over this but you sweatlords always ignore it. I may do d12 a lot. But I also do D18 clears at least once per ending clear

and you all keep saying the same thing

just high roll it

no, i will make do with the run i get

no constant refreshes

[sinful sparrow]

is it highroll if you can achieve it consistently?

no i dont think so

zzzzzzzzzz

[stray dove]

i adapt. I've continued runs that had no right to be continued

just to see if it's salvageable

if i lose, at least i learned