is-station

[prime mountain]

Draft degen at least to help her

[languid vault]

tyty!

[prime mountain]

was it on guided tour 2?

[gentle pagoda]

need d2 for that

[languid vault]

wha-

[faint rampart]

:ggnod: was just kidding

[gentle pagoda]

if it's your first win you're prob on d1 now

[languid vault]

ye its my first win

[prime mountain]

difficulty level

[languid vault]

does difficulty level reset..?

[prime mountain]

Huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh

[faint rampart]

isnt there a run even before d1 or im tripping

[lost anchor]

honestly waiting for hoshi2 to make is6 easier haruka too

[prime mountain]

?

[tribal furnace]

My first clear (second run ever) was this lmao

[prime mountain]

Its just play d1 > unlock d2 > unlock d3 etc

[gentle pagoda]

it's a ladder

[languid vault]

oh

[muted tundra]

grandpa blender

[tribal furnace]

I had the the thing that give ASPD and atk to leftmost Operator

With Tequila chilling in the bench

[muted tundra]

on tequila?

ooh

nice

[tribal furnace]

It was one hell of a run lmao

[muted tundra]

schwing schwing

[tribal furnace]

One of my wins was

Put grand pa in front of yi

Yi takes 10k art dmg per second

Yi fucking dies

[muted tundra]

[prime mountain]

yeah yi gets trivialised by so many things

Fun boss tho

[muted tundra]

tequila reminds me, I still have yet to deploy windscoot despite drafting him like half a dozen times

[tribal furnace]

And yet

[muted tundra]

i don't even know what his skills do

[gentle pagoda]

windwho

[tribal furnace]

Got my ass beaten by Yo twice while going for Ed3

[muted tundra]

4* liberator

[faint rampart]

[tribal furnace]

Got a new start, i WILL make FedEx work

[muted tundra]

I don't have leizi or luo xiaohei

[gentle pagoda]

I'm considering drafting him with exulter

[muted tundra]

so I need to draft windscoot a lot

[prime mountain]

Fedex is just entelechia but like worse

[gentle pagoda]

I almost used him for end 2 but I had virtuosa and filled squad

[prime mountain]

don't try it

[tribal furnace]

Wish me luck

[gentle pagoda]

the point is that he uses ammo

[prime mountain]

Yeah that doesnt save him from being ass

[tribal furnace]

Tbf

[gentle pagoda]

probably yeah

[muted tundra]

I think you're overselling ammo relics/exu talent

lol

[gentle pagoda]

I still draft SA anyway

[tribal furnace]

Both 6* Reaper are ass

[prime mountain]

Hell no

Outside of IS they are

SPECIFICALLY IN IS6

Ente is goated

[gentle pagoda]

for exalter, yes

[faint rampart]

furrilo trying to gatekeep fedex dodge tech

[tribal furnace]

Alright, why?

[gentle pagoda]

but cantabile is really strong with exulter

[muted tundra]

wait are we cooking?

[tribal furnace]

Try granpa S2 with exalter

Actual war crime

[gentle pagoda]

I think you mean exulter, we just said exalter sucked

[muted tundra]

surfer vs. cantabile is a tired debate anyway

the real tech

is archetto chilchuck

[tribal furnace]

Wait

[gentle pagoda]

also I don't have granpa

[tribal furnace]

Whotf is Exalter then

[tribal furnace]

????

[prime mountain]

Insane hit count on s2

[gentle pagoda]

executor alter

[tribal furnace]

Bro that's FedEx

[gentle pagoda]

same

[muted tundra]

entelechia is also functional and good at e1

[faint rampart]

got it before me

[tribal furnace]

Guys

Do you think Wis' hitting flying enemies is cringe?

[prime mountain]

Why is leizi so ass 😭

[gentle pagoda]

I think wis is cringe yes

[tribal furnace]

Ros does hit flying enemies too tho

[prime mountain]

The contrail tech:

[muted tundra]

LOL

[prime mountain]

!!!!!!!!!

[lost anchor]

balans

[gentle pagoda]

when

[tribal furnace]

Take the flying rat and she can

Entelechia can do the same btx

And I suspect Reed too

[prime mountain]

Wait wait wait wait, entelechia s2 hits air if contrail is blocking them?

Does this work on leizi too?

[tribal furnace]

Supposedly, yes

[gentle pagoda]

probably every pusher too?

since it targets blocked enemies

unless it's different in code

[tribal furnace]

Pusher can't block flying enemies

[faint rampart]

+more

https://tenor.com/view/jgmm-monkey-think-monkey-meme-ponder-monkey-idea-gif-6401133862108294696

[prime mountain]

Then you realise his s2 damage is like non existent + 0 range

[tribal furnace]

Entelechia doesn't need to block btw for S2 to work

[faint rampart]

its over you cant gatekeep it anymore:ReallyMad:

[acoustic jetty]

tip for revered granmaster

[prime mountain]

S2 is literally just aoe

?

how is that news

its 1.5tiles radius

[tribal furnace]

Mb the way you asked for Leizi confused me

[prime mountain]

I mean it confused me too, why would flying units make her s2 work

This still sounds fake

[tribal furnace]

https://youtu.be/goKmKbQW3VI?si=Gvy8Vq-zZ7OeWZcP

[prime mountain]

Ok well it doesnt sound fake anymore huh

[tribal furnace]

We're not a lot knowing about thar

[prime mountain]

Cube prob knows but never told me

This actually makes gvg ente leizi open better than I tought

but still kinda mid

[tribal furnace]

Still need to test reed

[prime mountain]

roll this
do 5 fights f4
0 statuegeists

😭

[errant siren]

[prime mountain]

Ok am I tripping or does crying thief have extended stun duration on the 4 difficulties stage

[steel relic]

He probably does

[dark oasis]

so is this stage just impossible or what

[prime mountain]

Yeah basically

absolutely ass design

[steel relic]

Just simply have a <12 DP operator

[dark oasis]

[analog maple]

Yes, hellish stage

[lost anchor]

no agent? eat this

[prime mountain]

Agent? Get fucked anyway cause +4dp debuff

!

[gentle pagoda]

he seems to, two units can't block him

[prime mountain]

Another case of: is this written anywhere

[gentle pagoda]

lol no

[prime mountain]

IS6 in a nutshell

[gentle pagoda]

or maybe there's a fine print in the mission details

[vagrant burrow]

ik he’s buffed on gold taobao but idk about four difficulties

golden taobao makes it 8s stun instead of 4s stun

kinda cock

[prime mountain]

I had 3 units, one got stunned, second got stunned, waited a bit, 3rd got stunned and first still wasnt up

[prime mountain]

Oh maybe this stage has golden taobao buff permanently?

[vagrant burrow]

i wouldn’t be surprised if four difficulties is buffed too though, i’ve also noticed it feeling oddly long

[prime mountain]

I made a mistake

[ivory hemlock]

are surfer/puzzle worth raising

[prime mountain]

Surfer yes puzzle no

you really only need either canta or surfer

[analog maple]

[ivory hemlock]

Hmm.

[analog maple]

2 + 3 = 5

[real glade]

lol

[gentle pagoda]

is she useful in other places? compared to canta

[prime mountain]

If you run s1, surfer is slightly superior

Like very slightly

[vagrant burrow]

don’t you have quite a bit of time at the start? regardless why not just set up leizi above red box and bait sui with gravel bottom left

[prime mountain]

Yeah that actually worked

I setup bottom though and had leizi kill foot at the same time

[vagrant burrow]

damn

[prime mountain]

Completely calculated yep

[vagrant burrow]

leizi cracked who could’ve thought

[prime mountain]

5 stack drum 🤫

Now for the completely not calculated part: we shop rob

At least try to!

[vagrant burrow]

i did shop f5 rob once and leaked like 14 on a highroll

tbf i went in blind but like

[ivory hemlock]

any niche ops to raise here i just have too much resources and dont know what to do with them

[vagrant burrow]

on s1 she’s basically a carbon copy of canta numbers wise, only difference being slightly more frontloaded on the dp (albeit conditionally), otherwise canta s2 is not dogshit and can be used with exu2.. i guess

[prime mountain]

Oh my god dont do that

dont just built everyone to e1lv50

Holy waste of resources

[vagrant burrow]

looks like y0 acc for some reason

gut telling me

probably rich as hell

🥹

[ivory hemlock]

yeah i started like march 2020

[vagrant burrow]

could never be me

[prime mountain]

Average shop rob experience

[vagrant burrow]

ngl maybe try asking in #help or #strategy since they have some niche players over there

[ivory hemlock]

alr

i was wondering niche ops in is though

[desert brook]

theres like a 80% chance you get shit on if you ask in help because its just meta players there

[vagrant burrow]

uhh none of those stand out to me for IS but i have little ball knowledge

[vagrant burrow]

there’s a lot of nicheknights players in help what

[desert brook]

more meta players i think
but still worth trying if you dont mind some people yelling at you

[vagrant burrow]

i mean for sure people will try and persuade you to not raise random niche 5* because it’s under the assumption people going there are clueless, but if you reiterate that you’re sure of what you’re doing you’ll get the advice you’re looking for

[gentle pagoda]

ah, so I guess I have no reason to upgrade surfer

unless somehow need 2 agents

[vagrant burrow]

i mean if you have canta built already yeah there’s limited returns from building surfer

[prime mountain]

I might be good at this game, damn

[faint rampart]

rocroc cuz you have her skin

||dont actually||

[gentle pagoda]

sadly not currently

[faint rampart]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/664147056809738272.gif

[gentle pagoda]

though I have canta max power

[faint rampart]

wtf

[vagrant burrow]

i meant canta mb

if you already have canta built

brain shat itself

[prime mountain]

This is evil

[steel relic]

[prime mountain]

You cannot use the dragon

[vagrant burrow]

wait wait wait

[prime mountain]

it was -4, couldve been -2 if I killed the guy who summons enemies cause he had like 1 hp left at blue box and I forgor he spawns enemies

Ok what the fuck just happened

how did he wake up

FUCK

CANGTON RELIC

[steel relic]

Who

[prime mountain]

3k true damage and 2s stun on 99dp

[vagrant burrow]

old ss

[steel relic]

[vagrant burrow]

wait surely “3” frd can stall

did you kill it

[prime mountain]

I had stun mines, turns out mimics can be stunned here?

Good change!

[vagrant burrow]

oh what they couldn’t before? i swear i’ve stunned them before

in is5/6 at least

i forgot about earlier is, it’s been too long

[prime mountain]

I think in like is4 you couldnt? been a while

Yeah is4 ones are immune

Same for is3

Man, ed2 + ed3 run but I got one fucking medic voucher the whole run

this is fucked

I have like -60% enemy hp so this might still work

[vagrant burrow]

damn wtfart

i’m too baby

[prime mountain]

It is not gonna work out 😭

[vagrant burrow]

i think i vaguely remember is4 but i hated is3 too much to do anything more than slop my way through it

why is everyone dead

[prime mountain]

Ed3 hp bleed + boss stomp

[vagrant burrow]

oh doing ed23

[prime mountain]

I had no way to heal the ed3 bleed

[vagrant burrow]

gg

[prime mountain]

Like where medic vouchers

[vagrant burrow]

can’t even leak left

[prime mountain]

😭

[nocturne cape]

you want roberta to help entel survive

[prime mountain]

Leizi s3 wouldve soloed if she didnt die out of nowhere

[vagrant burrow]

tbh i just grab amiya during ed3

[proven dagger]

@cold fjord @halcyon flame uh guess who accidentally killed sharpedges earlier

[vagrant burrow]

-21

[prime mountain]

ALSO GVG BTW

WHERE GUARD

[proven dagger]

yeah I accidentally killed 4 sharpedges

then ente died

foiling my plan

[nocturne cape]

Who were you gonna draft

[vagrant burrow]

the lion leaks more lives than the enemy count

[nocturne cape]

After Entel Leizi

[prime mountain]

Huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh

idk

too much thinking

Cube did you know about the ente s2 + take off tech

[nocturne cape]

Yeah?

It hits air

[prime mountain]

Is that useful for any bosky stage or just cope

bruh

All debuff with forced EM

[nocturne cape]

breakthrough

[vagrant burrow]

the one with 9 drones or exualt enemies?

[prime mountain]

Thats 9 drones one

[nocturne cape]

9 drones yeah

[vagrant burrow]

wait are they named differently

🥹

i never noticed

[prime mountain]

yeah

For some

[nocturne cape]

Well youd use it for both

But the exu alt variant is harder for ente leizi

The 9 drones one is 1 candle and the other one is 2 candles

For ente leizi duo

[vagrant burrow]

wait i just realized, is that supposed to be like the em versions

since theres no em in bosky

[nocturne cape]

No just variants

[prime mountain]

Ok what

Need a vid

[vagrant burrow]

huh. i thought i was onto something since one always felt harder than the other

or at least rarer

[nocturne cape]

Ente S2 Leizi S3

Leizi top tile on stage start, bait the bombs and retreat, wait for leizi to come back up, put leizi on the bottom tile facing left, then drop entel on the top tile, entel S2 kill the drones, drop the device, Leizi S3, W.

[prime mountain]

That is pretty nice

[nocturne cape]

Pretty easy to replicate too

Only thing to note is place the device after one full drone attack

Otherwise it might destroy the device

But yeah

[errant siren]

Which skill for W?

[nocturne cape]

Thankfully both of them are tanky enough

[errant siren]

[prime mountain]

That happened to me once, oops!

[nocturne cape]

Pretty sure E2 leizi lives 1 drone atk

Relicless

So yeah

[prime mountain]

yeah she should

[quiet mural]

artillery that i hate

[prime mountain]

Oh also cube, do you know whats the deal with crying thief having long stun duration on the four difficulties stage?

[gentle pagoda]

hi

[nocturne cape]

I think its just the stage mechanic

Its stun duration is tripled

[desert brook]

i think it says before you enter the stage, i remember reading thief has longer stun somewhere

[prime mountain]

Tomimi.dev does say 12s stun

which is CRAZY

[gentle pagoda]

lee draft tech

[ivory acorn]

untill i make raiden e2
who should i be using?
even in the guided tour difficultly I'm struggling

[prime mountain]

Well who* do you have for one

[ivory acorn]

who

ah

my ops

[prime mountain]

Yeah mb typo

[gentle pagoda]

borrow?

[prime mountain]

Wishadel/Kal/Naran oh my god you have entelechia built

Might unironically be med/sniper with kal naran wishadel draft

[gentle pagoda]

yoo SA

[ivory acorn]

she's hot
is she bad?

[prime mountain]

She's good in is6!

[ivory acorn]

ah

nice

simping worked

[gentle pagoda]

go for twink guard squad with SA, thorns, and entelechia

[prime mountain]

Dont listen to this man

thorns draft is crazy

[gentle pagoda]

yeah it is

though I've been drafting SA as my only guard so far

innate double hit along with everything else is pretty decent

[ivory acorn]

kal as in kaltist?

i suppose

[prime mountain]

yeah

with her IS mod

[ivory acorn]

what's her is mod

[prime mountain]

Heals 2 targets, mon3tr doesnt cost a deployment slot anymore and gains like +50% atk and hp or something

[ivory acorn]

o wao

ok

consider me a new player

didn't play for a very long time

[faint rampart]

itsover thorns is no longer here

[ivory acorn]

forgot the game

[prime mountain]

WE DID IT

[gentle pagoda]

what's that

[prime mountain]

Why is ulpi first though

[faint rampart]

top left when you open is6

[faint rampart]

the new afk branded guard

[floral mist]

Was Thorns even actually good in IS?

[prime mountain]

no

its just braindead pick\

Actually 0 iq draft

[faint rampart]

i saw him in like years old IS guides/clears

[prime mountain]

Yeah back in like

is2

On launch day

[faint rampart]

oka it was frozen monstrosity or something, probably cuz no other options

[prime mountain]

Thats in like is1

We literally had nobody else

😭

[faint rampart]

yeah, i don't think i saw thorns and IS being mentioned together ever again🥹

[ornate wave]

Am I too stupid that I cleared guided tour 0 after playing and reaching lvl 30 on IS6 rewards

[prime mountain]

Nah the first clear is the hardest

[ornate wave]

I need to do guided tour 1 and 2 to promote Radian..

But I fail

[faint rampart]

what makes you fail

[ornate wave]

Skill issue

[faint rampart]

[ornate wave]

It's the first IS I'm doing

[faint rampart]

oh

[ornate wave]

I wisadel borrowed it in previous clear

[prime mountain]

Yeah I don't recommend starting with this one its very tech heavy

[gentle pagoda]

how is ines there

[prime mountain]

Low diff ground squad she is basically free

[ornate wave]

I have specifically issue with deciding/investing guard ops too
4★/5★ ones since I need to manage hope count

[gentle pagoda]

I'd say the second clear, when the training wheels are off (d-1)

[faint rampart]

i mean shes still great if you're not in hope poverty i think?

[prime mountain]

yeah the only reason we prefer surfer is cause she's basically free

[ionic cradle]

Civlight crown is peak, I'm still confused if those shield are supposed to protect Enemies or Operators--

[prime mountain]

Your own units they protect

[faint rampart]

uh most 5* wouldn't worth investing

[gentle pagoda]

I guess

[ionic cradle]

Weird ability

[ornate wave]

Yea I didn't invest them yet
But I think my dps is poor..

[faint rampart]

nvm isc website does have recommended ops for low rarity

[gentle pagoda]

I can't recall any 5* guard worth picking in IS6

or most IS

except highmore

[ornate wave]

How useful is the levitation ability?
I see odda has it

[ionic cradle]

Lappland

[gentle pagoda]

don't

[prime mountain]

ass outside of ange cause she just does it permanently and has -weight

[prime mountain]

lmao no

d0 player spotted

[ionic cradle]

nah peak

[ornate wave]

I invested a bit in her to E1 lvl35

[gentle pagoda]

lappilap sure, but she ain't a guard

[steel relic]

This was supposed to be funnier

If you take reflect damage and are perfectly fine, are you weak or are you strong

[ionic cradle]

D0 for IS3 D6 to anything else

[ornate wave]

She's a lord guard though (I didn't pull her mage alt)

[gentle pagoda]

not lappland

[prime mountain]

Not even high enough difficulty for hope cost increase, sorry doesnt count

[prime mountain]

Did they reduce their reflect damage or is is6 just crazy on hp buffs

[faint rampart]

levitate does have some decentish relics, but i only use cuz of angelina
dunno how good that would be on odda

[prime mountain]

Odda never worth drafting

[ornate wave]

I have angelina but uninvested

[gentle pagoda]

I think the reflect is a flat damage, not actual reflect

[steel relic]

It sure doesn’t feel like 40%

[ionic cradle]

Im not that high of a risk taker unless it's unlocking raidian stuff

[gentle pagoda]

is it?

[prime mountain]

it used to be 40% in previous IS for sure

cause incant medics would barely outheal

[ornate wave]

My dps units die so I need to set healers first

[gentle pagoda]

if you want to use weightless relics you also have hool, but that's still very situational

[faint rampart]

could send your krooster
cuz shes not that big of prio to raise

[prime mountain]

Surely she gets a good IS only mod

[faint rampart]

naurrrrrr

[gentle pagoda]

I hope

[ornate wave]

I haven't set it up though..

[gentle pagoda]

I remember clearing Izumik with her, it was cracked

[faint rampart]

oh then screenshot works, sort by rarity

or

[ornate wave]

I have an old video here brb

[sonic sable]

I suck

This game sucks

[faint rampart]

https://is-central.github.io/is6-sui/low-rarity-recommendations/

[ornate wave]

The video I posted has sorted by acquisition date, need to rescrenshot ..

[faint rampart]

• if you have any of them

[ionic cradle]

Separate tier list for Yan ops for the sake of the doubt encounter nodes

[faint rampart]

#is-station message

[ornate wave]

I have none in red tier except for mylnar (he's E1 rn) and raidian (E1)
Only Ines in E1
In tier 3
Lemuen is pot 4 e2
No thorns but sa is e2
Uninvested angelina

Am I cooked

[ionic cradle]

Where's mah gal Nightingale, arts is pretty popular on IS6 aye

Newbies can quite tank the bomb barrage Yi does with it too

[ornate wave]

I should invest in shirayuki then..she's an aoe caster

[ionic cradle]

Whar why her-

Do my boy Ethan

[ornate wave]

There's a silver gun guy who said her uptime in arts DMG is good

[ornate wave]

Ethan is E1 rn

[ionic cradle]

Damn

[faint rampart]

get mylnar to e2
can sleep on ines for now if you have cantabile/surfer, i don't think dp would be a big issue for u
sa and lemu just nuke considering you don't have much options anyways

[ornate wave]

Will ambriel pair up well with lemuen
She has global range and lemuen can track laterano ops' targets

[faint rampart]

why would you need to tank tho...

[ionic cradle]

Dunno new players unable to spawncamp Yi as much, and later diffs ofc

[ornate wave]

I used quick deploy and raidian summon against drone strikes

[ionic cradle]

Btw I think it'll only mark when within a laterano op's original range

or extended range, but not global range--

[faint rampart]

idk i don't use her
lemu works fine on her own anyways

[ornate wave]

How good is Brigid? She's a loopshooter and I saw naruntaya being one too

[ionic cradle]

There's a chunk amount of Ammo based relics on IS6 surprisingly she's good with all of them too

especially once her talent passes through

[faint rampart]

oh yea mb, forgot to mention that he should just borrow tragodia and it should be fine

guide in pins @ornate wave

[ionic cradle]

Her problems are mostly for maps with those Wine event enemies which may force peeps more into S2

[ornate wave]

I'll tried borrow both wisadel and logos
But I run out of hope..

[ionic cradle]

Yo supposed to preserve vouchers

Hope is more abundant on IS6

[faint rampart]

not worth investment like every other 5*
probably ask a 5* niche player for better answer

[ornate wave]

I did that yea
I mean borrow is available for the first three vouchers

[ionic cradle]

Consume your free toss and pray to get that starter hope coin at the start

[faint rampart]

[ornate wave]

Toss? Right after the select squad screen?

[prime mountain]

5* cope sniper pick is Jieyun for hit count and being a yan unit and even then, barely ever draft her

[ornate wave]

I'll try a run with borrowed tragocat

[prime mountain]

Blue poison if you get the 5% atk per activated skill is not terrible either

[ornate wave]

But what squad is best for is6

[prime mountain]

All of them!

[ionic cradle]

maybe, depends, if you got all hope coins you could save the next toss to -30% Max HP the enemies for a chance on the next floor

[prime mountain]

Play what you want

[ornate wave]

Nice

[prime mountain]

No cause f2 you enter bosky

so it rerolls anyway

[ionic cradle]

For a beginner, special squad, free raidian

[faint rampart]

after you e2 raidian

[ionic cradle]

Yeah it's 2 chances

[prime mountain]

it gets consumed on entering

you will just waste it very likely

Consumed on use sorry

[ornate wave]

She's e1, I'm stuck at difficulty 1

[ionic cradle]

Im aware,

[faint rampart]

i mean starting with special squad

[ionic cradle]

Do special squad fr

[prime mountain]

Look at what raidian did to you guys

smh

[ornate wave]

There's no way to borrow mid run right..
I was spamming support squad and filling cannot's investment

[ionic cradle]

Once you got E2 raidian Max Tourist squad is fun to use

[agile hill]

wait is yato that low?

[prime mountain]

dude did you read the tier list

[faint rampart]

we're just newbies with thin roaster unlike you fossils who can play with niche🥹

[prime mountain]

it said good at something

Thats good

[nocturne cape]

its a low diff tierlist

not for D15

[agile hill]

im seeing logos, tragodia, narantuya above him

[nocturne cape]

otherwise Logos should be way down

[agile hill]

maybe they shouldn't be good at everything

[prime mountain]

Naran and trag are good at everything though?

Maybe not logos

[ornate wave]

Logos skill 1 didn't kill mobs in IS6 iirc

[nocturne cape]

yes

[ionic cradle]

dunno but Necrosis is a cool debuff too

[agile hill]

tragodia damage is pretty low

[nocturne cape]

s1 doesnt work against hitcount

[ionic cradle]

It's more on for control and paralysing shit

[faint rampart]

his cat tho

[prime mountain]

Shu damage is low

wow crazy

[ionic cradle]

Especially when he debuffs those who got bursted

[prime mountain]

no dps = bad unit???

[agile hill]

paralysing is kind of bad here, it takes resource to keep them paralysed, better to kill

[prime mountain]

Common drag L take

[ornate wave]

I'm borrowing cat for now
Btw do the vets have a good view of that voucher that said "first 5* free borrow + random "

[prime mountain]

no

[ionic cradle]

whar, having to cancel some attacks really feel big when it comes to healing and tanking

[prime mountain]

drag tends to have insane takes dont worry too much about him

[ionic cradle]

alot of the enemies in IS6 (being apparitions) tend to not have a fast aspd too

[ionic cradle]

oh

[nocturne cape]

that tierlist is made for lower difficulty thats why it's in the D2+ part

tragodia absolutely has enough damage for those difficulties

not meant to be taken out of context

[ionic cradle]

and great crowd controlling even in higher ones

[ornate wave]

Which of Ethan's skill is better in IS, 1 or 2

[nocturne cape]

which IS

IS5 prefers 2, IS6 prefers 1

[ornate wave]

I'm doing 6 rn

[nocturne cape]

if you wanna do a mastery do S2 first

S1 is fine at SL7

[faint rampart]

sorry, should've mentioned it

[ornate wave]

Nice

[ionic cradle]

oh yeah, trag cat also being affected by summon relics upgrade his potential more

[gentle pagoda]

wait, so you mean dorothy just gives other summons +1000 atk? by spamming mines?

[prime mountain]

Yeah she's still mid sorry

go back to is4 if you wanna use her

[ornate wave]

I got "fang the fire sharpened" temp recruitment in my vanguard voucher, will she be gone if I conserve it

[gentle pagoda]

I can't use her currently because I don't have enough vouchers for a third specialist

[prime mountain]

If it was a regular voucher yes

[gentle pagoda]

it rerolls, pretty handy

[prime mountain]

If it was a voucher with guaranteed temp, it changes the temp

[ornate wave]

Yea I got it mid battle

[prime mountain]

Yeah sorry she'll be gone

[gentle pagoda]

if it gives you wisadel restart

[ornate wave]

I'm pressing wisadel

Brainded clear

[prime mountain]

[gentle pagoda]

she's already at the bottom of the bin, you can't press her more than that

[ornate wave]

I saw yt say gracebearer is good generally with trag, how good is she in IS though

[ivory acorn]

anyone with a maxed raiden? pls friend me

[nocturne cape]

not bad

[ornate wave]

I refresh support slot until I spot a random one..
That's how I got my raidian

[nocturne cape]

but comparing to the meta guards she's not as good obviously

[faint rampart]

chat filled with ban raidian players and newbies

[nocturne cape]

if your roster is kinda scuffed maybe she's draftable

one of the better welfares

[ornate wave]

I went to #help and it was filled with ban newbies players..

[nocturne cape]

wait shes not welfare

i might be stupid

teehee

but yeah shes fine

[ornate wave]

Yea but my poor gacha luck made her max potential

• 10 more tokens in storage

[nocturne cape]

if you cope hard enough she can also open Clarity

[prime mountain]

How do people play class squads when you get like 7 vouchers f1 (3 from fights, 4 from shop + reroll) and dont get any guard voucher its all vanguard supporter

😭

[faint rampart]

[ornate wave]

Promote Ines

[prime mountain]

What is she supposed to do in a bosky

Surely her s3 soloes 9 drone stage

[ornate wave]

Insta lose run for +1 weekly mission xp for raidian ig

[prime mountain]

Bruh you think my raidian isnt maxed already?

[ornate wave]

Btw what was this "rob cannot on floor one" strat vets talk of
I saw a yt vid fight and get rewards but dunno if it's worth it for noobs

[prime mountain]

Depends on your start

if you have raidian its fairly straightforward

[paper notch]

new player can just stack LP and tank yi or some shit

[ornate wave]

How much of it do they stack life..

[paper notch]

-12 LP. most new player have around 4 LP at most when fighting yi

[faint rampart]

btw are you the welfare guy

[ornate wave]

Minus 12?

[paper notch]

i play with welfare units

if you mean in #help then most likely ye

[gentle pagoda]

you don't have to be a vet for it either, if you take some losses it's very easy

[carmine token]

the first 1st mistake u made is going to #help

[nocturne cape]

raidian pivot

[ornate wave]

Do you have a t*erlist of welfares reccd from your use
If I have a poor roster
(I got Kroos and Tequila)

[gentle pagoda]

@ornate wave basically to rob you want raidian, then ops depending on your squad

[paper notch]

you start with like 12 LP + shields or something close and you gain a couple from leveling. new player loses all that and doesnt gain any life points along the way then ask how to beat ed2 and they have like a squad of an e1 exu2 and e1 tragodia and random 5*s

[carmine token]

why we censoring tierlist

[severe oasis]

its a gross word

[prime mountain]

I just bought the 30 ingots coin 😭

[faint rampart]

someone had questions about brigid in is6, they already asked now

[gentle pagoda]

my favorite end 2 start is canta and waiifu, mostly use them to clear raidian from talismans and patch some holes, you'll usually leak around 9 ish with variance if you get good relics or spend a voucher early

[grizzled canyon]

Who's your vgg carries?

[severe oasis]

sometimes people ask how to beat an ending and they show their squad and i have to wonder how they even got to that point

[gentle pagoda]

but no vouchers sup/van/spe start can do it

[ornate wave]

did you spend 6 to get 30 ingots..

[prime mountain]

I spent life points, even worse

[faint rampart]

[ornate wave]

Yea that's why I'm asking for a t*erlist

[paper notch]

dont take it too seriously i dont advertise it much either but i try to maintain it when new welfares drop #strategy message

[carmine token]

brigit kinda mid even gen content

[paper notch]

i forgot to add skybox but ill do that rn. he's pretty good

[ornate wave]

This is a better than the whiplash commands in #bot-spam

[faint rampart]

yeah, but wanted opinion of a welfare player :ggnod:

[paper notch]

do remember that the context is welfare only

i would put matsukiri higher and 95% of the units would be unranked lmao

[ornate wave]

By welfare.. tachanka is that gun Collab event guy so he's never returning right

[gentle pagoda]

tequila is welfare isn't he

[carmine token]

[paper notch]

he is

[prime mountain]

Yeah r6 collab, sadly

[ornate wave]

Dossles holiday clear reward

[carmine token]

yea, from dossoles holiday

[gentle pagoda]

I don't know why I have such an aversion for liberators

[ornate wave]

Because zero block

[gentle pagoda]

I just find them wholly uninteresting and will pick anything else

[nocturne cape]

many such cases

[ornate wave]

And leak risk is high if you forget to click

[prime mountain]

+100% initial sp regen until first skill use counters the -1sp from +2sp on hit coin. mhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm this is useful knowledge

[nocturne cape]

ive seen many who despise liberators

[carmine token]

lowk lost on fisherman cuz got no block

[nocturne cape]

this is where leizi S1 comes in handy

you dont get punished for missing your cycle

[ornate wave]

Is tragodian s2 cat redeploy time 20 seconds or do I need to borrow a better cat

[gentle pagoda]

I almost lost to alt fisherman cause I had +6 dp cost on ops

[prime mountain]

Its 25s from the moment you deploy

Not retreat

[gentle pagoda]

It wasn't pretty having a row of 30-40dp ops

[nocturne cape]

how did you get +6

blademace?

or sui flower

[prime mountain]

bro took blademace

[gentle pagoda]

yeah, the game threw it at me

[nocturne cape]

unfortunately

ive lost a run on blademace and the +4 dp hour

[gentle pagoda]

thankfully I lost and found it away to win end 2

[nocturne cape]

never taking it

[carmine token]

:commerce:

[nocturne cape]

unless its literally F4 or later

then its fine

[gentle pagoda]

had 0 dp relics either, and my vanguards consist of cantabile

30dp cost cantabile is sadge

[sonic sable]

I got cooked

[prime mountain]

Negative value vanguards lmao

[split void]

Hi guys. This is my 1st time reaching this stage . Are there any tip and trick, mistakes that can easily be made here ?
Or maybe a good guide video to learn the boss mechanics . I don't want to watch full clear video

[prime mountain]

gnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn idk what to pick

[gentle pagoda]

end 2?

[split void]

Yea

[gentle pagoda]

it's all about hit count baby, atk buff is useless

[prime mountain]

He has enough lives to just ignore left

[gentle pagoda]

oh that's great yeah

[prime mountain]

so things to note: the boss targets most amount of units grouped > bottommost unit > leftmost

[split void]

I would pick the 1st

[gentle pagoda]

you can just focus on the boss

what are your ops

[prime mountain]

bloodshed is so good though and it would give +1coupon

[gentle pagoda]

bloodshed for sure

[prime mountain]

Oh wait I have poking sticks

so the -hp on apparitions isnt as valuable

mhmmmmmmmmmm

Yeah flower it is

[gentle pagoda]

do you need coupons? if not I guess trade is better

[prime mountain]

I mean you always need coupons no

[gentle pagoda]

I tend to have 10 at the end of a run

[prime mountain]

Does bro not do vertical pathing?

[gentle pagoda]

despite trying to use the most vertical paths I can

[split void]

The way I read it. It is up to 100%

So Idk

Maybe the risk is for those who need to kill the enemies faster

But 100% sound safer

[gentle pagoda]

bloodshed is great for hitcount enemies

but since it's already covered, a bit less useful

(still a fair bit)

[split void]

Any advices ?

[gentle pagoda]

anyway, don't clump ops, clump bait, the target is 3x3 around it so as long as your ops aim at one tile it's good

you will NEED aoe healing, unless absurd stats

or good redeploy cycle

[split void]

[gentle pagoda]

oh, and midhealth is a forced wipe

[split void]

I don't even have a medic really

[nocturne cape]

in the future when you're asking for help its better to let us know of the ops you have, and your relics too

[gentle pagoda]

so try to spare some ops for after that

[gentle pagoda]

rip I guess

[carmine token]

gg

[split void]

Only Shu here

[gentle pagoda]

the relic giving you -50% damage by things outside range is pretty good to save your non focus ops

[split void]

[gentle pagoda]

shu is good here

[split void]

This is only 7 . still possible right ?

[prime mountain]

Slight miscalculation

[gentle pagoda]

should be

[ornate wave]

I should try see if it works

[prime mountain]

bro took a picture instead of a screenshot dam

[ornate wave]

The drones started flying

I lost

[gentle pagoda]

lemuen is garbage here I think you can get gravel, and two vanguards

[nocturne cape]

Should be fairly easy, leak the left lane and put lemuen mid + exu on the right

[split void]

That hurt u know

[gentle pagoda]

does she have a multihit skill?

Otherwise deadeyes are dead weight

[nocturne cape]

Be careful of the 50% screenwide clear

But ig you can also just bruteforce it

You have enough carries

[gentle pagoda]

gravel is mandatory though

for bait and double hit on the boss

[split void]

[nocturne cape]

Maybe dont use GG S3

[gentle pagoda]

usually you'd want waiifu for the damage reduction

[nocturne cape]

Can accidentally kill sharpedges

[ornate wave]

When do I use gravel vs jaye

[gentle pagoda]

but gravel is a good second pick

[gentle pagoda]

for end 2 you'd pick waiifu

[split void]

Omg. Sound like the boss will hit hard

[nocturne cape]

Its D7

It wont

[gentle pagoda]

you do have a lot of health relics

[nocturne cape]

It hits hard starting from D14

[gentle pagoda]

so you can survive at least one slam

[split void]

[gentle pagoda]

oh, and raidian s2

[split void]

Although I don't get it all, I will try something

[gentle pagoda]

wait for the boss to use her skill, use her summons and gravel for easy baiting

and throw all your hits at her

and don't bother deploying all your ops at once

ela s3 and exulter s2 should do most of the work, at leas tthe first part

wait no

wrong skill

s3

[split void]

Only these 4 tongbao sound combat relate

[gentle pagoda]

reroll

[prime mountain]

erm

[gentle pagoda]

you have 2 aspd coins, great. and hp coins

shennong is the worst garbage you could get for this fight

[split void]

Yea I guess that one will make Shu useless

[steel relic]

Is it still a highroll if you’re forced to choose

[split void]

But that coin really help the last stages

[gentle pagoda]

most of your ops will become useless here

[agile hill]

i didn't know that radian doesn't need to be recruited through vouncher in speccial squad

[gentle pagoda]

end 2 boss has long moments of no enemies and you want to have skills for the boss, not after

[agile hill]

can't wait for the "QOL" update where they let you keep starting vouncher reserved

[nocturne cape]

I might have a ed2 clear somewhere

Hmm

[gentle pagoda]

I'm not sure if s1 or s3 is better for GG either

prob s1

[agile hill]

are you scared of not having enough hp and dying to ed 2 smash

[prime mountain]

Maybe but also no coupons for rolling drum, might not even get that many stacks of it

and I do have a bunch of bosky fights clearable

[prime mountain]

Actually I wont cause still searching for ed2 legend

[split void]

Last vouchers

[gentle pagoda]

beautiful

[split void]

[agile hill]

fights give vouncher, so either way drum wins in atk

[gentle pagoda]

almost perfect outcome

[gentle pagoda]

what's your squad rn?

[split void]

Still here the whole time

[agile hill]

oh yeah how much attack is recommended on by boss@nocturne cape

[nocturne cape]

i dont have a number

i play on vibe

[prime mountain]

Known good player btw

[nocturne cape]

well

[gentle pagoda]

I mean your current picked squad

[nocturne cape]

if my damage feels too low id just draft ops to help with that

so it usually works out

[prime mountain]

It will just work out strat yep I believe

[faint rampart]

two reds
no wonder i was confused

[severe oasis]

thats my strat too

nothing will go wrong strat

[split void]

[agile hill]

the issue is when you are determining whether you should draft more on dps, or draft something like healing, dp, block, atk reduction

[severe oasis]

just draft haruka and win

[real tulip]

wait how are you clearing left side
this is for ed2 right?

[agile hill]

if you got drum you can focus on drafting other things

[severe oasis]

-17 strat

[nocturne cape]

just do this

[split void]

This is my 1st time trying ed2

[nocturne cape]

exu S3 summon is where you would bait the boss

[severe oasis]

literally jsut dont touch the left side if you have 18+ lp

[split void]

I am only D7

[agile hill]

if you're broke, you might need some hp to leak for ed 3 and sixth floor, and sixth floor battles are tough

[real tulip]

ah
left side has the spear guys that turn into the hitcount things when they die

[split void]

Oh that sound good

[severe oasis]

they're just doing ed2 not 2+3 i believe so its ok

[real tulip]

oh didnt see your hp you're fine then

[split void]

Nice noted

Yeah 48 rn

[severe oasis]

oh you're chilling lmfao

[split void]

[severe oasis]

dude you could leak majority of the stage

[prime mountain]

he has exactly enough to leak both boss and left side, surely right?

[split void]

So just play with right side and the middle ?

[severe oasis]

yep

[nocturne cape]

and then after the 50% wipe do this and wait for exu lemuen to come back

ela mine is where you bait the feet

should be easy game given your relics

leak the left side

[agile hill]

leizi, raidian, and exu are the best 3 for ed 2 boss dps right?

[split void]

[faint rampart]

leizi?

[severe oasis]

cube what do u typically use to dps the foot with exu ban

[split void]

What is the boss target, still a groups of OP ?

[severe oasis]

and wis ban

[agile hill]

does bro just use haruka

[severe oasis]

haruka on deployment instantly defeats all enemies so its a bit overpowered

[faint rampart]

[agile hill]

also for ed 3 wallbreaker cleaning at start, i think mlynar could have issue, but leizi can kill unless you are way too broke

[severe oasis]

leizi works for me i havent tried mlynar

[agile hill]

i kind of forgot why you draft mlynar, i guess maybe somewhat better damage in most cases

[severe oasis]

i just dont draft him unless i somehow get 4 guard tickets

[tribal furnace]

BLACK?

[prime mountain]

bro she died

😭

[tribal furnace]

Yeah i know

It was just too easy and too funny to miss out

[agile hill]

i don't think mode shop rob happens on 4 or higher floor

[prime mountain]

How is this sentence relevant to any conversation

[carmine token]

huh?

[severe oasis]

titi is out in 7 hours lets she how she completely redefines the is6 meta

[desert brook]

lets see if this is true or rubbish

[split void]

The boss already dead here ?

[severe oasis]

did you kill it

[carmine token]

[prime mountain]

Yeah you cooked

[agile hill]

guys, how does leizi taunt work

is it like ulpanius

[split void]

It is easier than I thought

[prime mountain]

???????????

[severe oasis]

wdym? leizi doesnt have taunt

[prime mountain]

She has regular ass targeting

[agile hill]

not taunt, but targetting

[wispy owl]

Guys is there any calculations of how rare ingot box is or rare debuff in is6?

[prime mountain]

Its regular prio

[agile hill]

she comes down

[prime mountain]

She doesnt undeploy

[split void]

Cause I went through hell to get here. Guess I just overthinking

[severe oasis]

take off isnt a redeployment so she keeps her deployment order

[prime mountain]

she just stops being targetable by ground units

[split void]

[carmine token]

and then goes up

[wispy owl]

https://tenor.com/view/arriba-gif-12324188786972117417

[severe oasis]

this squad wouldve probably beaten it on d15 too so like

[split void]

Ppl just say need more medic

This run like I don't even get medic vouchers

So I was like I am doooom

[wispy owl]

Kinda suprised i havent seen ingot box after like maybe 1300ish store refreshes

They must have really f-ed up its drop rate

[split void]

Anyway 1st time read the story. Thanks guys

[faint rampart]

timezone revealed

[wispy owl]

Time to get hacked...or something idk

[steel relic]

[wispy owl]

Btw is there any even numbers regarding the rare debuffs and ingot chances?

At all

[steel relic]

PRTS might

[wispy owl]

Nothing

Just that they exist

[steel relic]

Unlikely then

[faint rampart]

uh oh

[wispy owl]

So just headbut against the wall enough untill u get lucky

[faint rampart]

leizi fail

[prime mountain]

Bro messed up the leizi s1 strat woops

[gentle pagoda]

how is lemuen good for this fight? I'm trying to understand

[prime mountain]

S3 nuke for boss damage but that wasnt an issue anyway

[nocturne cape]

I just use what bro had

[faint rampart]

wtf is s1 strat

[wispy owl]

Strat that uses s1

[prime mountain]

Wait you werent using s1?

Its best skill here

practically soloes

if e2 at least

[faint rampart]

s1 with the auto activate skill coin

[prime mountain]

Oh

lmao

[wispy owl]

My ak gameplay rn is literally just f1 farmfest

[carmine token]

6mins wait ayaya

[faint rampart]

[wispy owl]

Everything for 100% completion

Including rare debuffs

[gentle pagoda]

does it have a lot of multihits?

[prime mountain]

?

Why does that matter its for boss damage

[gentle pagoda]

?

[severe oasis]

you're assuming that lemuen was specifically recommended for this stage. she was used in that image because its what the person they were helping had in their squad already

[gentle pagoda]

what I'm seeing is her s3 is a 0.5s interval skill

that sounds horrendous for this boss

[severe oasis]

what?

[wispy owl]

I think after 100 runs u get 6m penalty

[nocturne cape]

And why does that matter

[severe oasis]

???

[nocturne cape]

This boss isnt hitcount

[carmine token]

[distant glade]

my E2s are wis, lemon, ulpi, gg, raidian (this is my first d3 attempt tho), and myrtle, and I just beat the regular version of Free. Do I go for the emergency version?

(I want the pathfinder bc I have sniper x2 defender x2 for Shu)

[gentle pagoda]

what

[nocturne cape]

Wdym what

Its HP based

[wispy owl]

No way

[gentle pagoda]

is it only the end relic that is hitcount?

[paper notch]

raidian s1?

[nocturne cape]

None of the ending relic turns the stage into hitcount?

[nocturne cape]

Website doesnt have inage for S2 inthink

[gentle pagoda]

So sui foot has only ever been hp?

[paper notch]

oh lmao

[severe oasis]

yes...

[nocturne cape]

Yes, sui foot has been HP

[paper notch]

sui foot is hp ye

[nocturne cape]

[gentle pagoda]

all the versions

[severe oasis]

yes bro

[wispy owl]

Sui feet 🤤

[nocturne cape]

There is one version

[carmine token]

there is no alter like in is4 n 5

[faint rampart]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1413566253506760724.png

[gentle pagoda]

guess I was doing a self challenge then, the boss is much easier than I thought

[nocturne cape]

[gentle pagoda]

I was actively not taking atk buffs for aspd

[severe oasis]

a hitcount boss would be lame

ngl

literally just dot check

[wispy owl]

Is7 frfr

[nocturne cape]

Well if you have the chance at taking apsd

You should anyway

[distant glade]

a hitcount boss would be amazing for newbies who only have ascalon leveled

or machine gun bp

[gentle pagoda]

well yeah, but that's trading over +200% atk at least

the boss has defense right?

[nocturne cape]

How does that work

[paper notch]

🥹

the boss has def but it isnt that high

they have 50 res tho

[severe oasis]

it has like 1k def

[nocturne cape]

I dont think theres a single relic in the game that gives +200%

In atk

[gentle pagoda]

tongbaos and some relics skipped

[steel relic]

There is one

[wispy owl]

There is one that is close to it

[steel relic]

[wispy owl]

[nocturne cape]

Drum is 150%

[carmine token]

free money got posted in general

[steel relic]

Survivor contract

[wispy owl]

Not in is6

[nocturne cape]

Not in is6 yet

[severe oasis]

"yet"?

[nocturne cape]

Yeah its added with dlc1

[severe oasis]

what do u know bro

WHAT

from wht

what

[wispy owl]

Cn exists

[steel relic]

Please tell me it’s some bad squad effect again

[nocturne cape]

Its in the boss relic pool

[steel relic]

[severe oasis]

wtf lol

[paper notch]

?

that's crazy

[wispy owl]

And im still struggling to get ingot box

[nocturne cape]

This screenshot i posted had it on there

[gentle pagoda]

now that I know the boss is only hp, I'll just blast it apart instead

[dark oasis]

difficulty 4 is hard...

[severe oasis]

no it isnt

[dark oasis]

I've lost like 5 in a row

[severe oasis]

[paper notch]

you beat diff 0-3. not much changed at 4

[tacit oyster]

Guys, is it worth it?

[severe oasis]

i think that means whatever u are trying is not working out for you

[sonic sable]

Do u guys ever enter f1 bosky?

[severe oasis]

no

[terse bough]

Nah

[wispy owl]

For you yes u got nothing

[tacit oyster]

yes

[gentle pagoda]

which ops are you using

[wispy owl]

They stole everything u own