is-station

[final gale]

also i have 4 dep limit

[gaunt bay]

er

uh

you shouldve led with that

[sick mason]

Just 4 wtf

Oh that -65% redeployment time coin

[muted tundra]

oh yea that reminds me, I was borrowing yato starter (I don't have her)
is her s1 used for anything?

[final gale]

yeh

[ancient jacinth]

how many operators increase def

[final gale]

hence infinite yato s3

[gaunt bay]

shining and skalter?

[ancient jacinth]

does roberta also give def?

[gaunt bay]

idk others everyone else is irrelevant

[compact gorge]

I said at her s3 use case
She is one of the best operator
Tho i do admit there aren't many

[ancient jacinth]

i need multipliers

anything works

[stray dove]

I actually place Surtr alongside Specter, Hoshitter and Spalter. Immortal stall for a limited time.

[gaunt bay]

i think nian

[muted tundra]

hoshitter...

[compact gorge]

It works on catbomb

[ancient jacinth]

hmm

[stray dove]

[gaunt bay]

hi cutie thing

[muted tundra]

hiii

kiwi

what is yato s1 for

[steel relic]

fast

[muted tundra]

[ancient jacinth]

+8% only though

[gaunt bay]

quilon

uh

[remote badger]

also prepare ur finger

[gaunt bay]

theres also that one stage

[muted tundra]

is5 yato starter ril??

[gaunt bay]

nameless heros or whatever

is4

[ancient jacinth]

preferably like +50% or slightly more significant multipliers

[muted tundra]

oh wait yato is rerunning soon

[gaunt bay]

uh not starter i think

[muted tundra]

probably

[gaunt bay]

but yato is meta for soul escort

[muted tundra]

yay

[sick mason]

Monster Hunter collab will get a rerun?

[gaunt bay]

shes strong on speccas

[muted tundra]

we don't know

[steel relic]

likely

[muted tundra]

but it's implied

[ancient jacinth]

thought it was a new event with the old mh collab units in it

[steel relic]

they reran rainbow6 p1 before p2 so we should be seeing MH p1 before p2 too

[muted tundra]

I remember starting her once in is4, like 1.5 years ago
but I was kinda lost because first time using her

[ancient jacinth]

fair

[muted tundra]

also I was even worse then than I am now

[gaunt bay]

er shes viable as is4 start i heard

[muted tundra]

yea

[compact gorge]

I think p2 came first

[muted tundra]

so I was told

[gaunt bay]

but theres a learning curve

so like

[muted tundra]

she's a fine is6 starter at least

[gaunt bay]

no thanks

[muted tundra]

because y'know

raidian

[gaunt bay]

thats like

saying a starter is viable in is5

and then just using medic amiya

[steel relic]

isn't it potgated

[gaunt bay]

it is

[steel relic]

iirc she leaks some stages without p4

[gaunt bay]

:ya:

she leaks some with p4 too iirc

(e1)

[nocturne cape]

Pot gated

Smh

[ancient jacinth]

just noticed there are more immobile bosses compared to aerial bosses in IS

[steel relic]

epic

[compact gorge]

[muted tundra]

so was zuo le start

T_T

[ancient jacinth]

one the only aerial unit isn't even a true flying enemy

[muted tundra]

💔

[gaunt bay]

zuo start sucked even with p6

sorry bro

[muted tundra]

shut up

[nocturne cape]

But hes cute

Thought?

[muted tundra]

yes

[gaunt bay]

ur jack tier

gayass

[muted tundra]

very smoochable

[steel relic]

I can't believe Cube was Amiya

[muted tundra]

is me x zuo le hetslop?

[gaunt bay]

uh

[compact gorge]

Logos is the best character

[gaunt bay]

i think

[muted tundra]

heck

[nocturne cape]

I can agree with that

[gaunt bay]

sorry the term hetslop flashbanged me

im still recovering from reading that

[muted tundra]

not the worst way I could've flashed you

[gaunt bay]

HUH

[final gale]

holy sh--- infinite yato s3 is indeed op in ed2

[muted tundra]

amazing

[gaunt bay]

turns out operator is broken without cooldown

[muted tundra]

take care of your finger

[gaunt bay]

more at 9

[compact gorge]

Manual labour

[nocturne cape]

Not broken enough

I tried doing Yato S3 only op for ed3

I lost

I had 0% atk from 45 relics

[gaunt bay]

how the

fuck

[compact gorge]

Atk goes so well

[gaunt bay]

thats gotta be like

[nocturne cape]

Game was so hard i had to draft kafka

[gaunt bay]

statistically nearly impossible

[sick mason]

Your luck is on another level of rotten

[nocturne cape]

Idk i played it on stream too

So somebody can vouch surely

[gaunt bay]

its okay my pull luck is bottom 0.1% last couple of banners

[nocturne cape]

0% atk from 40+ relics

[gaunt bay]

type shit

[nocturne cape]

I was kinda close too

wang P2, yato was mid air on thr last flaw

[compact gorge]

Class squad doesn't feel that good to play tbh

[compact gorge]

Is6

[nocturne cape]

theyre more of a consistency pick

if you are struggling to win your first game definitely don't pick class squads

if you are trying to winstreak they're pretty good

[steel relic]

not if you play tacfort no Raidian Exu Wis

I want to kms and I'm only on d11

[nocturne cape]

yeah because tactfort without raidian and hoshialter is not it

[steel relic]

it really isn't

Horn is good but she's not that good

oh hey Pepe rerun in 2 days

Hoshi soon god bless

[proven dagger]

i love this

[ancient jacinth]

how many times does the coupon price for retossing increases in higher diff

[nocturne cape]

just once

[ancient jacinth]

so only two?

[nocturne cape]

1 coupon on your first roll, 2 for the following rolls

[ancient jacinth]

ah

[steel relic]

It still tells you it’s free btw

Despite costing 1

Me when I lie

[ancient jacinth]

ik the free cost just doesn't exist anymore

coupons are hard to come by that my bum ass can't even retoss more than once in a normal high diff run ✌️

[steel relic]

Wdym

You get two from every turmoil

[ancient jacinth]

(it goes to vertical crossing and ji)

[steel relic]

[heavy pumice]

oh god...
pls have mercy on me

[ancient jacinth]

or probably I just forget to retoss when I do have coupons

[heavy pumice]

but at least learn one new thing with firework core
i have to build brigid :ya:

[steel relic]

She’s ass though

[heavy pumice]

all her skill is off rec
and it work

try the temp one and she perform much better than i thought

[steel relic]

Caper’s skills are offrec too and not garbage

[heavy pumice]

doesnt have slow which i need it from brigid

[steel relic]

Do you need slow or does Brigid need slow because she does 0 damage

[heavy pumice]

hmm
her dmg are good if being honest

maybe because i play firework too much to the point 'i think their damage are good enough' mindset

[proven dagger]

peak phantom gameplay

[steel relic]

The self gaslighting power of a former tacfort player

[heavy pumice]

hahaha
we all know too well tacfort is a true hell

give up when realize the win rate is 0%

[cedar crane]

Didn't get ed2 after getting giga carried with 4 temp ops

[steel relic]

Hoshi will turn it into nukeslop just like the rest soon enough

[heavy pumice]

yeap, one reason i thinking go back to tacfort is her existence

[heavy pumice]

not sure how far tacfort can go without raidian tho in IS6

[steel relic]

Fighting his inner demons (they’re winning)

[steel relic]

I got to d10 super easily and then everything immediately stopped working in d11

[heavy pumice]

that is uhh.... shocking info

[steel relic]

Tbf I used Leizi in most runs too, she was doing a good amount of work

[heavy pumice]

is the debuff or got killed by stat check?

[steel relic]

Both

It’s so ass

[heavy pumice]

:icant:

[steel relic]

All enemies +20% atk ok cool all my defenders die on sight now

[spark socket]

Has being able to temp recruit limited ops been a thing in IS since the beginning or smth , i can't recall

[steel relic]

Always

It’s collabs that you can’t get

[spark socket]

Since ceobe fungimist?

[heavy pumice]

oh god :icant:
all these year the only thing HG can do to improve tacfort just release busted summoner

[stray dove]

That's quite the Wish node in F1. Would skip a fight again

[remote badger]

lmao

it looks so good

[stray dove]

I'm guessing that Wish node just procced boss-tier rarity collection?

[spark socket]

What does the console do tho

[heavy pumice]

man.... if defender get one shot-ed
everything look grim

[stray dove]

makes summons stronger the more summons there are.

so very Raidian-coded

[spark socket]

Oh that

Yeah real

[steel relic]

Not oneshot but killed too fast to have any chance of healing or winning a duel

[spark socket]

Is ling any good in this IS

[stray dove]

no

hell, the only time I used Ling in IS is IS2 pre-diff modifiers

[remote badger]

no

raidian bettr

[steel relic]

I used her once, iirc it was d9, she did pretty well but it’s really cursed if you don’t have poetry strips

[spark socket]

[heavy pumice]

its coded to work around her (raidian) this IS6

[spark socket]

Well that's true

[steel relic]

Can’t believe the relic that’s named after Raidian is made for Raidian

[spark socket]

Have y'all maxed your radian yet

[remote badger]

no

[spark socket]

[heavy pumice]

so just self loathing, i dont like IS6 at all

[spark socket]

Wb m3

[heavy pumice]

if there a way to leave her at e0 i will do it

[cedar crane]

they really shoved raidian down our throat this IS

[remote badger]

my ass haven't reached d15 yet

[cedar crane]

not that I'm complaining tho

[remote badger]

and haven't done ed2/3 either

[cedar crane]

mine is maxed

[steel relic]

Yeah you have to manually promote her even though it’s free

[halcyon flame]

you might like it post dlc1 more its a lot better for raidian ban players

[heavy pumice]

i see
even if not one shot-ed they didnt last long enough is really bad sign

[heavy pumice]

i see
that a good news to know

[spark socket]

Say, does doing ed2 using the nian squad count towards radians masteries (m2) ?

[heavy pumice]

maybe i will start playing IS6 when dlc1 released

[halcyon flame]

drafts like these are possible because of how many resources they funnel into you. everything good about raidian they basically made available to raidian ban

[steel relic]

No cuz m2 needs d5

[halcyon flame]

so yea just wait dlc1 if u wanna enjoy the game with bans

[heavy pumice]

ok2

more like i can enjoy my IS5 gaming more until IS6 dlc1 released

:ya:

[cedar crane]

what is new in dlc1 ?

[errant siren]

End4

Big Goat

[halcyon flame]

big fraud

[cedar crane]

Saw a vid of ending 4 and he seems like ||4m hp and becomes a blue box||

[sinful sparrow]

dont give a shit
its a jobber ending

[spark socket]

Right

[proven dagger]

ive been doing this for 5 minutes @cold fjord @halcyon flame

[ancient jacinth]

they should really add mimic squad back

[stray dove]

minor issues on nuking Yi without YinYang tiles

[ancient jacinth]

getting cocoon silk and tourist sounds broken

[gaunt bay]

insane technology 😭

[winter belfry]

what the hell am i watching

the minecraft music too

[errant siren]

There is one on Expansion 1.

[proven dagger]

@cold fjord @halcyon flame highroll squad, 475183 eHP burst

[ancient jacinth]

wait does typhon have an IS mod

[errant siren]

No.

[halcyon flame]

https://tenor.com/view/standing-here-i-realize-gif-24728653

YI POV

[proven dagger]

HAHAHAHA

i forgot i had mask

so if phantom was blocking him he could've bursted him down quicker

but he would die and the permastall wouldn't be as funny

[alpine solar]

bruh this stage is so unfair

[steel relic]

Is that music m54 from Starbound OST or am I hearing things

[alpine solar]

this asshole knight just barrels down the midlane i dont even get to deploy a second op b4 he spaawns

[proven dagger]

nah https://open.spotify.com/track/4D0wg2S4PdRvccSOVpu8zV?si=31504b51145b472a

[remote badger]

hi any refs for beware of shadows with raidian e2 on d15

[steel relic]

Darn

[halcyon flame]

I don’t have any but it should be pretty simple with S2

[remote badger]

my ass is barely breathing on low lp

[halcyon flame]

Just slap a bunch of fishes in front and behind the middle red box

And save a dish for left lane with exu

And fishes for right

It’s honestly just camp the red box so the guys don’t become shadows

[remote badger]

wow....

fihs

[halcyon flame]

That’s the main mechanic of that stage

[remote badger]

1 on left 2 on mid 2 on right or reverse

[halcyon flame]

Use 2 fishes to kill the big guys on the right initially

Then just camp the red box with a fish on the right side of the box face left

And then have fishes on the left side of the box face right

A “come outside we won’t jump you” moment

[proven dagger]

ops i wanna raise for IS6

[orchid garnet]

Does Mudrock's shield let her survive IS6 dragonfoot? What about the 50% HP partywipe?

[sudden cloak]

Surfer

[proven dagger]

yeah ill get to surfer

first im doing CS

[proven dagger]

only the former

the 50% partywipe is a forced retreat

not an attack

[orchid garnet]

Thanks, got a relic for Def recovery sp regen so might as well. Also, does Yu's S3 deal continuous fire damage to the boss with his firewall? I've just been using S2 so not familliar with the S3

[steel relic]

S3 needs someone else to be attacking across the wall

The wall itself does no damage

[orchid garnet]

Gotcha, sounds hard to use

[steel relic]

Not particularly

It’s just not very good

[worn plank]

what do I go for

[alpine solar]

man fml

3rd floor and not a single medic or supporter voucher so no e2 ops

is leizi2 actually a good is6 op? her performance at e1 feels so crappy

[paper kayak]

yes extremely, top guard

[alpine solar]

s1? or the others

[paper kayak]

generally you'll have her on S2, with S3 flex on some stages

[alpine solar]

oh so i was playing her wrong the entire time

tyty

[paper kayak]

S1 is a bit of a meme here, it's a good skill but not in IS6

[proven dagger]

s1 is a Disarm utility skill here, s2 and s3 are for damage with s3 being tile layout specific

[paper kayak]

there's a handful of stages I've used it on because what I'd usually use her S2 for was already being covered

[alpine solar]

i only had s1 mastered up until now

so i guess i just go for m9 now?

with s2 first then s3?

[paper kayak]

yeah shes an easy m9 candidate, probably the most obvious since horn

[steel relic]

Idk about that far back

Narantuya is a very good m9

[paper kayak]

ehhhh isn't Naran like 99% S1/S3?

thorns alter is s1 s2 because s3 targeting is so uncomfy that barely anyone uses it in practice

[boreal island]

Guys, is it worth E2ing Kafka for the non-existent damage, or should I keep her E0 for lower DP cost? I play Soul Escort more often these days, curious what's better.

[winter belfry]

Def keep E0

[errant siren]

It's the majority strat indeed keeping her at E0-1.

[winter belfry]

Unless you need her for base

[errant siren]

[boreal island]

I don't I have Diamante

[paper kayak]

I can't imagine a scenario where kafka damage is a critical need

[errant siren]

P1 Relay clears.

Or FastRedeploy clear.

[boreal island]

Alright, ty a lot. It was bothering me that I kept recruiting an E0, but it is what it is.

[proven dagger]

oh yeah i should try kafka s2 in is6

[errant siren]

Obviously a niche one.

[chrome tangle]

bro i need to draft kafka if i get a billion ingots

[nocturne cape]

Now wheres my vanguard voucher

[chrome tangle]

i ate it

soz

[errant siren]

How about Spec one?

[paper kayak]

I need to draft Exe Alter on a crazy highroll run w/ as and ammo relics

[alpine solar]

how many reliable squad starts are there besides trag/exu2

[paper kayak]

ente

[arctic panther]

special squad + literally anyone

[paper kayak]

yeah tbh the real start is raidian + anyone hope allows
(I hate D15 hope mod)

[alpine solar]

so i can be an is5 wisbrain again in is6?

hell yeah

[arctic panther]

i hate hope mods in general

[paper kayak]

one thing i never ever want to see come back is +1 hope for 6stars it is literally just the anti-fun modifer

[arctic panther]

so glad they left it to d15 only

[chrome tangle]

id say thats kinda boring

they shoulda brought it back earlier 🥀

[paper kayak]

I dont understand why they keep adding mods like it, it has been awful in every single iteration of IS it's appeared in

[chrome tangle]

like D10 or smth

its not really awful

you just gotta play around it

[arctic panther]

“oh you wanna borrow/start with a 6*?? better hope you’re using a class squad bucko”

[chrome tangle]

then play without a 6* start

[boreal island]

play with raidian start easy

[steel relic]

They give us 7 hope start for free on all squads this time

[floral mist]

D15 is prove your worth

[chrome tangle]

not the GG

[floral mist]

I swear, the Talismans is more dangerous than most enemies because of D15

[alpine solar]

is it even possible to have a strong start with no 6* but 5* at high diff

[floral mist]

First Class Squad exist

[paper kayak]

at d14 you can do raidian + 2nd 6star start w/ class squad, borrow one of them, and then use the auto-promote on an e2 powerspike unit which lets you do a ton of openers you would never ever do otherwise

at d15 you're doing raidian start.

[chrome tangle]

which is fine

[paper kayak]

it's not awful in the long term but it ruins opener variety

[chrome tangle]

just pick up ur 2nd 6* from F2 Path

[arctic panther]

and if you dont have every single op in the game your options become limited

[chrome tangle]

bro wat...

are u drafting Crownslayer in IS6 😭

[paper kayak]

was also kinda neat how 5-stars were genuinely useful for like the first 7 floors and then they threw in +1 5star hope for some reason

[chrome tangle]

idk bout that

thats burning hope

[floral mist]

I like D15 because it actually make you think harder

[boreal island]

That's not the issue, it's that your 6* will be E1 in wonderland. So limits operator options, exu has strong E1 so she benefits.

[tidal ingot]

which option do i pick to exchange this collectible

[steel relic]

First

[chrome tangle]

then just save ur candles

[floral mist]

First

[tidal ingot]

ty

[chrome tangle]

instead of entering with e1 candlebearers

[paper kayak]

if you save a voucher at low diff 5stars are free to recruit

[proven dagger]

wait i think emergency learning for all is possible with phantom solo

[chrome tangle]

promoting them is not free no?

[proven dagger]

i need to figure this one out

[halcyon flame]

this is

[boreal island]

more entering = more coin rolls. Also, early power for routemaxing

[halcyon flame]

a vulpis angle

thoughts

[chrome tangle]

its a mumu angle

[steel relic]

It is, 5* promote costs 2

[paper kayak]

iirc promoting was also free with saved vouchers

you still didnt always pick 5stars because lol 5stars but for once they were genuinely useful flex picks

[proven dagger]

bagpipe

s2

[nocturne cape]

Good thought

[halcyon flame]

im suprised no ones made a mumu clone copy tierlist

[paper kayak]

its been done

[halcyon flame]

up to date?

[chrome tangle]

realsies?

[paper kayak]

theres like a 30 minute video from a few months ago

[crimson nest]

It just either loopshooter or trapper no

[floral mist]

And also, who knows what HG is cooking for IS6 D18

[chrome tangle]

CIRNO

take the schwarz to buff ur Wis in squad

[halcyon flame]

take it

take the conditional schwarz buff

on mody

[steel relic]

Wtf Cube is a wisser

[halcyon flame]

smile

CONDITINOAL

[paper kayak]

naran > dorothy/ela > geeks (exu) > marksman (archetto)

[halcyon flame]

btw

[chrome tangle]

i heard Schwarz 1 shots every Furniture

[steel relic]

My goat is washed

[boreal island]

Generally, it's Nara or Ela. In IS6, it's probably Lemu?

[paper kayak]

in IS it's Exu

[nocturne cape]

I do what i must for ending icons

[paper kayak]

mumu wants decent range and high attack speed

[halcyon flame]

is it just atk stat and atk interval or wat

ok

[chrome tangle]

they copy atk int

[steel relic]

Yes

[boreal island]

ah forgot it wants attack speed, you right

[chrome tangle]

i dont see how lemu is ever viable as a copy

[paper kayak]

if you really need the range ig

[halcyon flame]

oh does the clone copy the nara aspd as if shes hitting a target next to her

[steel relic]

Yes

[halcyon flame]

goated

chakram gaming

aphleious gaming

[paper kayak]

it also copies damage type so logos is a potential move for arts damage flex

[steel relic]

Loopshooter has the same atk int as marksman (1 second)

[chrome tangle]

within the 8 tiles

[steel relic]

It’s projectile travel time that slows them down at distance

[floral mist]

Narantuya, the flexible Sniper

[alpine solar]

ive seen a lot of fanart of her to confirm she's super flexible

[halcyon flame]

understandable

how closea re you

[halcyon flame]

[boreal island]

If Hunters didn't have trash range, they'd be good clones. Then again, you don't pick Ray in IS.

[paper kayak]

mumu is honestly pretty good if you can e2 her quickly because s3 kinda fucks in this IS w/ summon relics

for example mumu raidian maxes out raidian's handheld console

each summon casually rocking +1k atk def

[proven dagger]

wait the sword glaive spear

guys

are

all stun suceptible

[halcyon flame]

[floral mist]

Uhh yeah

[steel relic]

Yes

[proven dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/dexter-gif-1878760417600646737

[steel relic]

Fisherman is too

[proven dagger]

f3 team rn

[wary zodiac]

So how good this guy in is6

[halcyon flame]

tfw the 2 op fisherman alter is blacknight sleep raidian

[alpine solar]

yes

[nocturne cape]

Doing high ground breaching

[halcyon flame]

[floral mist]

Uhhh decent i guess?

[halcyon flame]

do you do by ending or by squad?

i do by endings

[lost anchor]

Great still, but leizi a bit prefered cause dodge talisman

[proven dagger]

OH YEAH

[nocturne cape]

I do 2 and 3 on every squad first

[floral mist]

Tho Mlynar is outshined by another Liberator, Leizi Alter in IS6

[steel relic]

[proven dagger]

I WAS GONNA RAISE BK FOR IS6

[paper kayak]

good for ed3 and acceptable for ed1

ed2 you'd need initial sp and redeploy stuff

[steel relic]

Diabolical

[nocturne cape]

Ed1 ill just rush them

[boreal island]

Survivor contract at home

[halcyon flame]

naruhodo

[nocturne cape]

Missing low ground and the 3 theme squads now

[proven dagger]

alyssal wanna see me cook

[nocturne cape]

Ed3 badge i do 2+3 d15

[alpine solar]

is leizi1 actually a good caster like cube's guide mentions for low rarity draft

[floral mist]

I mean, IS6 will have it later

[halcyon flame]

i do badges on the way up diffculties

[wary zodiac]

I wanna ed1 on difficulty 2

[halcyon flame]

so i have 4 ed1s done by the time i actually start

[nocturne cape]

Xd

Good idea

[floral mist]

Yeah

[halcyon flame]

is it a magnum opus

or a maggots in the mire

[boreal island]

Uuu, so we can have both the coin and the relic

[alpine solar]

do i build her to e2 or just stick with e1

[proven dagger]

sword glaive spear today

using this

🥀 🥀

[floral mist]

Yes

[halcyon flame]

i have a whole set up for everytime a new IS drops to speed run

race against time

[paper kayak]

ed1 on d2 can be done by exu alter and few pieces of cardboard if your relics are half decent so

[halcyon flame]

naruhodo

[wary zodiac]

Also since at it

In what is mlynar shine the most

[nocturne cape]

Yep youre a pro

[proven dagger]

im gonna use phantom stall

phantom miz stall

[nocturne cape]

I have no clue how you do the endings that fast

My average run is like 2 hours

[proven dagger]

using law and order

[halcyon flame]

whar

for ed 23?

[nocturne cape]

Ya

[halcyon flame]

gaming

wheres ur dp tho

[floral mist]

Think E2 would be good since her SP generate on hit is a nice boost for her usually big cost skills

[proven dagger]

thats for me to figure out

[nocturne cape]

I got fisherman alter two games in a row

Grrr

[proven dagger]

ill use clone to stall

[halcyon flame]

i think for my 23s i was still skipping bosky combats

or at least a majority of them

[nocturne cape]

Crazy

[halcyon flame]

because its unironically easier to just -17 and have exu raidian do everything in ed2

and then have minimal draft for ed3

[paper kayak]

i've gotten fisherman alter twice

one time i leaked the entire stage minus the boss and died to exemplary next stage. next time was on a highroll run and 1 leak

[alpine solar]

is fisherman alter the run ender

[halcyon flame]

i got my run timers down to like 40-50 minutes i think

[alpine solar]

everytime i get him my life pool explodes

[paper kayak]

if you're not on a highroll yeah its pretty joever

[alpine solar]

i havent seen him in 12 runs so 🤞

[paper kayak]

"bait the teleport" ok he has killed my operator i have deployed another aaaaaaand they're dead!

normal fisherman isnt too horrible if you've gotten e2 raidian but thats most of is6 tbh

[halcyon flame]

its not even a bait moment he literally does it at a set interval

and hes CCable

you can interupt his tp

[errant siren]

With Wisadel - no.
With other else - maybe.

[paper kayak]

normal dusk beauty dies to kroos alter and a bag of chips (true story I beat it on one of my worst lowroll runs ever bc I had e2 krooster and basically nothing else)

[proven dagger]

@halcyon flame behold

[floral mist]

I haven't got any trouble with Fisherman alter because there's actually tiles that let Raidian's fishes to shoot from afar, so....yeah

[errant siren]

If you kill him ASAP and prevent fishing your valuable ranged ops like Raidian - you'll clear this stage.

[alpine solar]

also how should i be approaching e2 raidian? do i just e2 her right away when i pick my starting squad, do I try to fish for supporter voucher and e2 her solely through pathfinder, or am i ok to just e2 her as soon as i get e2 voucher

[halcyon flame]

theres a man at ur top rubble

[proven dagger]

OH FUCK

THANKS

[paper kayak]

recruit e1, e2 via pathfinder
insta e2 is kinda bait in this IS because of pathfinder

unless it's an op you won't really use in pathfinder nodes much

[alpine solar]

sometimes i get trolled so hard not getting any supporter vouchers, or something like i could've used e2 raidian power instead of struggling with e1 earlier

[halcyon flame]

yea thankfully they changed it in dlc1

so that e2 starts are actually doable again

incense stick my beloved

[floral mist]

E2 Starts are viable because of one relic at the shop

[arctic panther]

what is it

and is it guaranteed

[floral mist]

incense stick

[halcyon flame]

yea

dlc1 adds a 4 ingot relic in f1 shop that makes an op a candlebearer

[floral mist]

What it does is simple, choose any Operator to be Candleguest

[paper kayak]

candleholders one operator, appears in first shop after expac 1

[halcyon flame]

and f3 shop will have a 16 cost relic that allows u to enter bosky with 3 steps

[proven dagger]

talisman fell on phantom

[halcyon flame]

this combined with the fact that bosky and pathfinder have guranteed vertical travel means more often then not

ur getting 6 bosky steps and pathfinder on f3

[paper kayak]

hypergryph doing the unthinkable and making the IS better with the first expansion instead of adding a bunch of obnoxious stages

[halcyon flame]

avert thyne gaze

[floral mist]

This make stacking relics more faster if not more consisent as well

[halcyon flame]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1158049223351222312/1435872026228428950/IMG_6136.gif

[halcyon flame]

yea dlc1 is absolutely jobber

[arctic panther]

when does expansion 1 release again

[mint gull]

2027

[floral mist]

Which make IS6 actually a very pleasant IS to play

[halcyon flame]

its nice that they balanced out the power difference in ahving raidian and not having raidian

[waxen marten]

I didnt know boss on ed2 had a timer, he only had 1 hp left so sad

[halcyon flame]

but its at the moment way too easy

even with a lot of bans

[floral mist]

At March i believe

[paper kayak]

d18 shuo about to hit the community like mhwilds savage omega did to that game

[halcyon flame]

like the only actaul diffculty that dlc1 added was 1 of the f6 stages and being able to take ed4 debuff relic in a 23 for extra challenge

[arctic panther]

atleast there wont be any teammates to fuck everything up this time

[floral mist]

We have to remember than Expansion 2 will have new skill tree, relics, and squads as well, who knows if it's actually make it easier than even now

[halcyon flame]

ed5 is now 12 bosses and 6 maps

yep

u fight the entirety of suibling family for fun

get fked

[chrome tangle]

1 boss is just a floating headstone

Yep

[halcyon flame]

honeslty the most likely modifer they would add is just cursed collectible and +1 coupon to travel vertical again

so the IS5 special

because one of ur biggest resources rn is being able to travel vertical basically no matter what

[remote badger]

ballsack pro version

[steel relic]

Don’t forget all elite and leader enemies gain +30% attack and damage resistance for 30 seconds upon entering the field

[arctic panther]

and they’re all in feranmut form and do the exact same thing as jie but with buffed stats and a lower timer

[alpine solar]

how do u travel vertically besides that one coin

[floral mist]

Coupons

[remote badger]

natural vertical paths

[alpine solar]

ah

[arctic panther]

theres gonna be alot of them in expansion 1

[alpine solar]

so that coin just lets you artifically move vertically for more steps with very little opportunity cost?

[paper kayak]

technically its implied that Jie is ED2 so you just get the sui foot during ED5 too

[floral mist]

So...is just enhanced Amiya but harder?

[proven dagger]

i have a feeling the boss will be like ishar

but instead of turning into one woman

its 12 men and women

[nocturne cape]

@halcyon flame

[proven dagger]

or like

[nocturne cape]

Game on

[proven dagger]

a lot

so a multi boss that turns into a superboss periodicially

[remote badger]

out of sudden u are multitasking

[sonic sable]

What to do when my leizi dies one shot to the wallbreakers and i could not get any healing defendrr

[proven dagger]

i have an idea for feng shui

[arctic panther]

or a multi boss and a superboss that gets stronger the more bosses you kill

[proven dagger]

oh god

[floral mist]

Imagine, 8 Bans and it's still easy because that's how IS6 plays out in post Expansion 1

[arctic panther]

lore accurate

[steel relic]

As long as he spams voice lines

[floral mist]

Ban list: Wis'adel, Exusiai Alter, Tragodia, Leizi Alter, Hoshiguma Alter, Haruka, Raidian, Ascalon, Mizuki

[arctic panther]

have we ever had a boss thats used voicelines before?

[floral mist]

This is the current ban list, btw

[sonic sable]

Seriously ed3 rng so bad

[steel relic]

Idts

[alpine solar]

yeah

[steel relic]

But that would make Chongyue extra special

[sonic sable]

Pathfinder always on worst path with no vertical pathing

[halcyon flame]

my goat

[sonic sable]

Can't take bosky f5

[chrome tangle]

ED3 is like ur first doubt

[sonic sable]

Sometimes no pf on f6

Who designed it

[alpine solar]

like an is boss or just any boss in general

[sonic sable]

That's not the issue

[halcyon flame]

i mean yea

[paper kayak]

im sorry but this is so absolutely comical as someone not in tournament scene like they are literally just banning anything good atp

[floral mist]

Dude, i got screwed by that before, so yeah XD

[arctic panther]

any boss in general

[halcyon flame]

i think mine is basically the same

[proven dagger]

technically Ishar has Skadi's voice

but its not a voice line

[sonic sable]

I had two dogshit encounters

[paper kayak]

might as well ban mlynar too since he's good in ed3

[floral mist]

No, this is literally the ban list XD

[paper kayak]

yeah I know

[chrome tangle]

like a tourney ban list?

[paper kayak]

LMAO THEY BAN WINDSCOOT

[halcyon flame]

this is my current list

[floral mist]

HUH, even ENTE??

[proven dagger]

put phantom on there

[paper kayak]

oh thats personal

[sonic sable]

Who tf do u even use

[paper kayak]

ok

[halcyon flame]

honeslty i just ban anything that makes the game easy

[alpine solar]

does this guy count? he makes lots of clanker noises every few seconds

[proven dagger]

ban phantom

ban phantom

[chrome tangle]

so 6*s 👊

[arctic panther]

what the fuck is THAT

[proven dagger]

abnormality

[chrome tangle]

R6 boss

[steel relic]

Essence of evolution

[chrome tangle]

new player spotted

[floral mist]

The bane of our sanity years ago

[halcyon flame]

these are my avg drafts

[floral mist]

And the killer of Phones with Reed Alter

[arctic panther]

SINCE WHEN DID R6 HAVE FUCKING SCPS 😭

[paper kayak]

officially implemented memory leak that can crash your game w/ reed alter

[proven dagger]

dude i want swire so bad

[halcyon flame]

might ban ines actually too

[chrome tangle]

where le ros start

[proven dagger]

the boss isn't from R6 but from some guy in OD story

[sonic sable]

Wtf u r not kermit

[paper kayak]

ban muelsyse just trust me on this one

[proven dagger]

@halcyon flame ban phantom he's too strong

[halcyon flame]

thats what u think

[arctic panther]

so a distortion

[halcyon flame]

honestly frd ban could go hard

[proven dagger]

WHY ISN'T SHE ON YOUR BAN LIST

[chrome tangle]

cause she sucks

[steel relic]

Real?

[proven dagger]

not a distortion

[alpine solar]

what if the is6 ed5 is just a feramut sized essence of evolution that spawns multiple statuegeists instead of slugs

[proven dagger]

like

its made by a guy

[halcyon flame]

ril

[proven dagger]

its artifical

so

similar to a pecca actually

[floral mist]

Dude, Ending 4 already did that

[proven dagger]

its made from cancer and originium

[halcyon flame]

kermit and me are one in the same

[arctic panther]

oh i thought the guy turned into it

[halcyon flame]

he is me

i am him

[proven dagger]

it would

[halcyon flame]

jaksho type shit

[proven dagger]

prd is good against Yi

ban her

[halcyon flame]

lowkey

fk it

lets ban agents too

[proven dagger]

alyssal

i have an idea

ban all forms of inate crowd control

[alpine solar]

most ingenious?

[steel relic]

Ban dollkeepers too they’re tagged frd by the game

You used none but just in case

[paper kayak]

im convinced muelsyse is just sleeper op in all content but everyone got baited by melee clone or "needs dorothy"

[proven dagger]

@halcyon flame ban all ops with inate crowd control

pureknights

[halcyon flame]

wtf

[chrome tangle]

does applying CC to themselves count

[proven dagger]

enemies shall travel unobstructed to their destinations

[nocturne cape]

I remember seeing a CN tourney that requires banning 2 out of Ambushers Liberators and FRDs

[alpine solar]

how about ban all ops with 2 or more syllables in their name

[nocturne cape]

Seems interesting

[floral mist]

Narantuya is an near above average Operator, but sadly she got overshadowed by the more OP Operators

[sonic sable]

How do u spell relicless in cn?

[proven dagger]

6*s?

[nocturne cape]

Yeah 6*s

[halcyon flame]

er

[floral mist]

So a lot of hidden gems, just got overshadowed by their god tier competition

[halcyon flame]

does that ban my astgenne alter

[chrome tangle]

yes

[paper kayak]

I feel like class bans could be kinda interesting
like blanket specialist ban

[halcyon flame]

astgenne alter is non negtioable

[chrome tangle]

then uninstall AK

[proven dagger]

dont ban her

actually just ban hard crowd control

like stun levitate disarm

lure

[halcyon flame]

hard crowd control is unironically usually worse then soft

[floral mist]

Angelina ban then?

[halcyon flame]

because slow is just giga broken

[proven dagger]

fuck yo wife then

[paper kayak]

mostima ban

[halcyon flame]

nop

[proven dagger]

erm actually mostima is movement speed reduction 🤓

wait she has stun

[paper kayak]

just s2 banned
saved

[halcyon flame]

yes

decompression

[floral mist]

Uh fuck, wrong Alys

[proven dagger]

feng shui and exemplary technology idea

[floral mist]

Crossing of Mountains and Seas

This is probably the hardest combat F6 stage

Probably

[proven dagger]

the what

is that cn stage?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1158049223351222312/1435872026228428950/IMG_6136.gif

this one?

[floral mist]

Yeah

[halcyon flame]

yes

[proven dagger]

what even makes it hard

im curious

[paper kayak]

actually real talk @halcyon flame how do you clear exemplary and feng sui with that banlist

[proven dagger]

does an ambusher not solve it

[floral mist]

The spearheads and cars

[halcyon flame]

sakiko cheeto pram

[proven dagger]

spearheads are ambusher fodder aren't they

[halcyon flame]

honeslty pram and swalter are next on the chopping block for bans i think

[alpine solar]

so leizi1 is not a troll pick in is6 right

[halcyon flame]

but if pram ban what do left side

[paper kayak]

oh right CN ops

[alpine solar]

or am i being baited to e2 her

[halcyon flame]

[sonic sable]

Wdym m9 leizi

[floral mist]

Hard to solve when you got hundreds of Cars and Spearheads literally taking the shortest path to the blue box

[proven dagger]

oh

fair

[alpine solar]

i dont see any mention of leizi1 in this channel so i feel like i am being bamboozled

[arctic panther]

oh god are the enemies not lobotomites for once???

[sonic sable]

Oh leizi 1

[proven dagger]

oh fuck

[sonic sable]

No

[proven dagger]

thers a middle lane

i jsut noticed

[alpine solar]

then why does cube recommend to draft her in low rarity draft

[proven dagger]

if you destroy the car spawner

do they just

beeline

[paper kayak]

yan op ig?

[halcyon flame]

yes

also

[proven dagger]

OHHHH

[halcyon flame]

ypdated ban list

[proven dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/always-sunny-frank-oh-my-god-i-get-it-gif-22328165

[halcyon flame]

gonna do a run now

actually tmrw

[floral mist]

You have Chongyue and dusk enemies on the mid lanes, then Ling enemies at the left side

[lost anchor]

Damn hoshi2 banned before release

[arctic panther]

https://tenor.com/view/scared-dog-scared-white-dog-shivering-dog-shivering-white-dog-white-dog-gif-2684151111772069591

[halcyon flame]

i play cn

[floral mist]

That's why brute force is literally your demise on that stage

[lost anchor]

Ahh

[arctic panther]

so wait what was hitting the left side enemies here?

[potent yarrow]

where is the benefit on this wtf

[arctic panther]

there is none

same with the other 3 starting risks

[paper kayak]

grant me power End of Times this is a non-em floor 6 stage we're up against

[halcyon flame]

this is the em variant

the normal variant only has spearheads and lions

[paper kayak]

oh
well slightly less troll then

[proven dagger]

these guys are EM

[halcyon flame]

no i mean the lin event lions

[errant siren]

You can gamba Risk Coin.

[proven dagger]

oh

[errant siren]

The only benefit from those.

If you don't like it, switch them.

[halcyon flame]

you cant

those coins only turn into the normal greens

and some other common ones

[errant siren]

???????

[proven dagger]

what is this

[halcyon flame]

its a flow chart

[alpine solar]

how do i read yanese

[errant siren]

Wdym you can't Gamba Coin?

[halcyon flame]

showing what coins can turn into what

[proven dagger]

in plan?

[halcyon flame]

i mean those basic risk coins cant turn into other risk coins

yes in plan

[errant siren]

I fucking can, look

[paper kayak]

can't wait for dlc2 where it adds a stage that spawns exclusively the yu event coin frogs and you can only place ground operators on shu event cursed water tiles that are maximum red and uncleansable

[proven dagger]

also is it just me or are flower coins rare as shit

[paper kayak]

actually, we don't have any stages at all with the shu event mechanic do we

[errant siren]

Well, they provide a buff only, a strong one. No shit they're rare to find.

[arctic panther]

we dont

[errant siren]

[floral mist]

Nope, i think only Shu enemies

[paper kayak]

shame its my favorite of the sui event mechs

[proven dagger]

i think Shu event mechanic isn't here soley because of tileset

[halcyon flame]

[alpine solar]

okay, so leizi1 is really just drafted to fulfill the yan op threshold and not for any combat related reason right

[halcyon flame]

yea

[proven dagger]

i think they just didn't want to make the event mechanic work on is6 tileset

[floral mist]

I mean, 3 ASPD for 2 Ingots is one of the flower coins, soo.....

[alpine solar]

so i dont need to e2 her, wtf was that guy on

[proven dagger]

they're a lot rarer than i though they'd be

wait some flower coins are plan exclusive

no wonder i dont have like half of them

[alpine solar]

u almost baited me to waste resources on e2, good try

[halcyon flame]

wicked

[floral mist]

HAHAHAHA

Actually almost fell for it lmao

[lost anchor]

Bro is in the chat rn

[floral mist]

[lost anchor]

https://tenor.com/view/side-eye-suspicious-puppet-gif-2729624127692369191

Lookin at you like

[old geyser]

ED2 D15 cleared, just need to do ED3 now

[floral mist]

Nice

[lost anchor]

Dam trio clear

[floral mist]

Oh yeah, do you guys think ED5 of IS6 will follow the same concept as ED5 of IS5?

No Nodes, No shop, No bosky, just Boss node

[arctic panther]

i hope not

[paper kayak]

full 7th floor with new nodes do it

[floral mist]

I mean, that's good no?

[paper kayak]

that would be very good

[warm drum]

When does is6 get hard? (Outside of that one fisher boss)

[paper kayak]

but imagine the sheer hell of a 7th floor exclusive combat node lol

[halcyon flame]

it doesnt

it only gets interesting when u have ballsack + ED2

at d15

[warm drum]

Ballsack?

[floral mist]

I know one guy that make a fanmade stage for F7 floor in IS5

[arctic panther]

ballsack

[floral mist]

[warm drum]

????

[paper kayak]

d15 lowroll runs or trying to do ed2 but that STUPID encounter wont spawn

[alpine solar]

steve jobs

[halcyon flame]

+30% atk and hp to apparition enemies

[warm drum]

I was going to do ed2 that run but that encounter didn't appear... I probably missed it by one candle because there was one tile I missed

[thorn niche]

hey guys do we have a tier list for is6?

[warm drum]

Need to grind more is6 to unlock all the upgrades

[chrome tangle]

bro is in the wrong IS

[alpine solar]

how much stronger are we talking

[paper kayak]

btw what are some funny openers for is4 other than reed alter, exu, and degen

or am i truly just gonna be spamming those exclusively

[halcyon flame]

you ever dog race with ur life on the line

[arctic panther]

much faster

[paper kayak]

(I dont even own degen)

[halcyon flame]

ray

[paper kayak]

dont have her either rip

[chrome tangle]

lemuen

[floral mist]

https://youtu.be/kBpxQw8e5oo?si=E3wYQLAojxq-fV8o

[arctic panther]

ela

[paper kayak]

[halcyon flame]

yato

[chrome tangle]

cynik's leaked stage

aintnoway

[paper kayak]

oh wrong reply I meant to reply to lemuen opener

what

[chrome tangle]

@proven dagger

[halcyon flame]

birb im bored

strim

[chrome tangle]

so BTD6

[paper kayak]

lemuen opener is a thing

[halcyon flame]

yes

[chrome tangle]

E2 Lemu is

not E1

[floral mist]

Didn't Lemu E1 have S2?

[paper kayak]

it does

[warm drum]

All 6* have S2 e1

[paper kayak]

what do I even run with lemuen open
spot and amiya?

[alpine solar]

wtf how do you stop the zerg rush on this stage

its either i have the ops that can kill them before they even get close or they just beeline through the middle and fuck me up

like what even is the strategy for this stage

[vagrant pelican]

Done

[void root]

Ending 3 kicked my balls 3rd time

[paper kayak]

is this worth or is the -25% too grief

[inland elbow]

Take peek

[paper kayak]

I have no reliable healing yet

just spot and medicmiya

[void root]

Haruka please save us

[inland elbow]

Spot outheals it

[raw hemlock]

What we thinkin'?

[paper kayak]

stir-fry

if this is first shop thats a crazy pull

[stray dove]

YES! I finally won against this variation!

[potent yarrow]

xddd of course the tavern wont show when i have plenty of originum points

[raw hemlock]

third trader node, second one ate all the smelly

anything else I should grab before I leave the node or am I good to go?

[winged kelp]

What's the interval of Wang dropping the black piece again?

[paper kayak]

I mean personally I tend to buy out the shop if I have a lot of life but

hemostatic is p nice early

duck lord just randomly running into the line of fire of my lemuen during s3 and dying instantly multiple times this run for some reason

[raw hemlock]

I think I'll save the next few nodes for tomorrow, but oh boy, I should prepare...

[wary zodiac]

can i ask for help there for difficulty 2 ed 1

as i will be doing this

[paper kayak]

picked sniper medic, got the snip/med atk collectable, didnt get a single medic voucher the entire run and had to use shu and amiya for all my healing

[stiff vine]

Is leaking quilon a viable strat? i got a run with 30+ sheild against him and chose not to do so but just wondering if it was possible, and if i need to be worried about his 2nd phase

[paper kayak]

support unit exu, block yi at the top of the map with your choice of staller, delete boss

frankly I've been doing this at like, d14/d15 on decent runs

I went back and tried it on d2 because I saw so many people complaining about it and yi died in literally 3 seconds per phase and iirc I only had like, stir-fry

[wary zodiac]

I'm just starting

Shoud I go with this to pick support raidian

[paper kayak]

support raidian isn't worth it until you have some of her proficiencies tbh

[wary zodiac]

so is as your heart desire better then

for saving extra hope

[paper kayak]

nah
iirc I ran myrtle roberta exu

roberta being brought in as a pseudo defender

can probably get a support one shes moderately popular for a 4star

[wary zodiac]

I know

She one of my fav so i have her at e2 lvl 40 s2m3

and 3 module

[paper kayak]

oh excellent
yeah 100% go with the exu roberta start

once you get the -4 hope proficiency on raidian, you can do the funny class squad starts

[wary zodiac]

So should i redo this then

[paper kayak]

temp recruit texas is probably good enough

oh you went that voucher

yeah

I am not a tragodia believer for new players in is6. its theoretically good but in practice tragodia stall has too much potential for failure if you're not already experienced with yi

vs just deleting him with exu which is brainless and at low difficulties very consistent

[ancient jacinth]

i have crazy plans for IS6

[paper kayak]

the other general roles you want for ed1 are:
-someone to blow up all the trash mobs mid (leizi mlynar lemuen wis etc, just big range or aoe or both)
-medic (optional)
-someone to block yi (any good defender but especially shu, gummy can work with help, guardmiya s1 is a cope option)
-laneholder on left (mizuki is optimal but there are so many options that work, like reapers, juggernauts, muelsyse for some reason)

[paper kayak]

yup I ran this up to like d10

[wary zodiac]

Can i put kal instead of gummy

[paper kayak]

until I started spamming raidian class squad starts

kal works too

although i typically used mon3tr for laneholder duty

[wary zodiac]

I have mizuki

[paper kayak]

placed her south facing up so that she was healing exu and mon3tr, and then just shu on the boss

if you can get the vouchers for him he's great

tragodia is still good btw and allows you to recover easily

I just don't like him as a main strategy

mizuki you can drop near the blue box and he can generally solo left+right with s2 unless you get really bad right side spawn rng

[wary zodiac]

I should prob send my krooster to help with strategy

https://www.krooster.com/network/lookup/yubdon

how important encounters in is 6 compared to 5

[paper kayak]

bosky is what matters

once you have e2 exu and a blocker you should be able to start clearing out bosky fights

maybe even e1 exu at low diff idk

i cant believe im saying this but eunectes, garbage as she is, would be ok at blocking yi

[wary zodiac]

roberta works as blocker yeah?

[void root]

Yeah E1 Exu below D7 works fine bosses and mobs just have dogshit stats

[paper kayak]

probably better off picking sankta for that tho

roberta ehhhhhhhhh

gummy is ok because she helps heal herself

she also has 10 res and roberta has 0

oh for bosky? yeah

I was thinking for yi

tbh you can kinda get away with anything pre-d4 because the enemies just do not have stats

[wary zodiac]

I just lost few times due to my stupidity prob so decided to ask for advices

[paper kayak]

for context

[wary zodiac]

awful

but lesser than is 2 cursed item shit

[paper kayak]

(hilariously this isn't actually that bad because the enemies are balanced around it and its functionally more like they're debuffed pre d4)

[wary zodiac]

Should i pick amiya or save

[paper kayak]

this is floor 1 so save

[wary zodiac]

also i got defended saved from 1st node

[paper kayak]

you save nearly all vouchers unless you can't or it's some absolutely insane temp recruit or smth

[woeful anchor]

if u leak phase 1 the stage instantly ends

no more 2nd map