strategy

[hidden axle]

Actually

Idk if we ever needed stun in general for high risk cc

[fleet edge]

Not right now sure
But there are scenarios she would

[hidden axle]

Let me look up arkrec

[fleet edge]

Floating enemies you don’t want to dedicate a cornerstone to handle?

I mean I use her very often in is3 too

[hidden axle]

Ahem its high risk
Not 620

[fleet edge]

So maybe seaborn ?

Is Yato used in high risk

[hidden axle]

Thats what I am going to checl

[fleet edge]

lol

[hidden axle]

.

[fleet edge]

She doesn’t provide any utility

[hidden axle]

She's used in high diff IS for sure but idk about cc

She does have utility

iframes

[weak gazelle]

yato2 have iframe

something texalter doesnt have iirc

forgor if crownslayer can stun aerial enemies too(?)

[hidden axle]

If only tex2 had that 240% multiplier for every attack instesd of just first attack

🥀

I lob tex2 too

First limited I ever got

[fleet edge]

Why are we pretending like she’s bad

[weak gazelle]

i love siracusan :ya:
nowadays i use tex2 s2 only

[hidden axle]

We arent

Its just a wish

Also

Looked up ccb1 records

Tex2 saw usage so did yato2
Both cooked

[weak gazelle]

well time passed, sooner or later she will be forgotten

[rustic eagle]

You can find those on arkrec?

[fleet edge]

Wth is this

Whos the unit beside m3

[hidden axle]

Tragodua

[rustic eagle]

Bro I didn’t know they had tier lists too

[hidden axle]

2 low op records used tex2 and yato2 both, but otherwise neither saw use

That said schwarz saw somewhat popular use with s2 at that

[rustic eagle]

What is this one abt

[weak gazelle]

idk, always start an argue when this tier list thing up

[fleet edge]

I mean it makes sense
Frd allows you to save operators instead of leaving ops to handle a low traffic area

[hidden axle]

Wtf theres a clear with qanipalay asw

[fleet edge]

I think it’s usage % in records or smth

M3 used literally everywhere

[toxic flume]

Is this enough to clear end3?

[fleet edge]

Is there a situation you don’t bring m3

[rustic eagle]

Any kind of records ? Cuz ling there seems like it includes regular levels done with solo op too

[plucky flint]

when you don't have her

[weak gazelle]

i see raidian there...
seem like IS6 related tier list

[toxic flume]

Why tf haruka is below then m3

[hidden axle]

Usage died for both after ccb3

Then again we got tragodia by then

[plucky flint]

m3 buffs

[toxic flume]

Ok fair enough

[undone herald]

its definitely not a CC tier list because Sakiko is more recent than the last CC

[rustic eagle]

Yo wait

[hidden axle]

Oh yeah theres a cs clear in ccb4

[rustic eagle]

Lapp in third tier

[hidden axle]

Lapp2 is kinda dead outside of gen content

[fleet edge]

llm translation

[rustic eagle]

Now I gotta know what that list is for lol

[toxic flume]

But alao why Elbana is there see seem useless in IS6

[fleet edge]

It seems like it’s all records

Not only IS not only solos not only cc

Everything combined

[rustic eagle]

Interesting

[hidden axle]

Low op records asw I see

[rustic eagle]

So what route did Lapp use to get there

[weak gazelle]

no idea

[fleet edge]

I mean she’s pretty low tier?

[rustic eagle]

[fleet edge]

Even below Chen alter

[rustic eagle]

She’s also sharing tier with shu leizi haruka ray

[toxic flume]

It same tier

[rustic eagle]

That’s pretty significant

[fleet edge]

Same tier as… phantom

[hidden axle]

Phantom has an IS module now

[weak gazelle]

yeah it look IS related tier for me

[fleet edge]

It’s everything tier

[rustic eagle]

Can you slide me the link of the tier list pls

[toxic flume]

Also ima try to use her in IS6

[fleet edge]

It’s just arkrec

https://en.arkrec.com/tier-list

[rustic eagle]

Ty

[hidden axle]

Yo

I looked up low ops for os-10

Since everyone was strugfling

Guess what

[rustic eagle]

Yea a billion ops do it

[hidden axle]

8 ops solo it

[toxic flume]

Struggling at IS-10 fr?

[fleet edge]

Oh ya talking about IS
Can I complain about how Wisadel always kills herself on every thorned chest

[weak gazelle]

[rustic eagle]

Bro and that’s all the tier list

There’s barely any ops

And cuora is on here

[hidden axle]

I thought nobody except newbies would be syruggling at os-10 but welp

[weak gazelle]

its her favorite enemies

[rustic eagle]

Im very curious now

[toxic flume]

There s event that have Map changed mechanics lile that

[hidden axle]

They dont struggle with that

Btw

[fleet edge]

Anyways it seems like I should just perma reserve 1 slot in my team for m3 forever

[hidden axle]

OS-EX-1 normal mode is solo-ed by gravel

[rustic eagle]

Yo wait

Wait

[hidden axle]

[rustic eagle]

What does "available to play:16" possibly mean

[fleet edge]

Someone give me 1 scenario where I shouldn’t use m3

[hidden axle]

Also wtf pram2 solos a lot of stages in her event

[hidden axle]

Medic ban

[toxic flume]

But Boss damage can 1 shot yu and almost kill hoshi

[rustic eagle]

It’s on all the characters there

[dusk quest]

Stage design in action

[weak gazelle]

pram2 brainrot era soon

trust

[toxic flume]

Lmao

[dusk quest]

A bit tilted too that I cant 3 Kjerag op it due to the last wave coming about 10 secs too early and SA is on cooldown

[rustic eagle]

The top tier translates to "design failure"

[glass monolith]

Wisadel - Flat brain
Pram2 - Sleep brain
Next broken alter should cause straight up organ failure

[fleet edge]

Being a unit which you just always bring forever doesn’t sound balanced

[rustic eagle]

The tier names are kinda weird tho

So maybe there’s some iffyness fs

[fleet edge]

I’m Chinese I can just read it sec

[toxic flume]

Ex mode gonna Bs i can tell

[rustic eagle]

Also wang isn’t on the tier list

[fleet edge]

I just prefer English

[hidden axle]

Wtf did I just read
Utage solos first S stage of this event, CM included

[toxic flume]

WTF

[rustic eagle]

So there’s definitely something up

[rustic eagle]

Im maxxing her out 🙌

[weak gazelle]

ohh they slowed it down a bit in term of event difficulty?

[toxic flume]

Kinda

[glass monolith]

Let me guess S-1 is one of those "Everyone jump in hole" Like in Lapp event

[hidden axle]

Elite 1 Four-Star Banquet, Solo Raid OS-S-1_Bilibili_bilibili https://share.google/kgGrDsy6PMEXcD8r2

Ethan solos asw but utage more astonishing

[toxic flume]

E1!?

Ok

[hidden axle]

Wtf E1 too

[weak gazelle]

my basis are in this channel
i very rarely see someone asking help for current event maps

[hidden axle]

[toxic flume]

Utage E1

[fleet edge]

1. Design failure
2. If you don’t have them it’s fine
3. Above average
4. Bring them if you have them
5. They have proven niche case uses

[rustic eagle]

Oh I guess translation works somewhat okay then

[weak gazelle]

meanwhile ave mujica event this channel get swarmed

[rustic eagle]

Can you tell me what’s written on top of the characters

[glass monolith]

-1. Widnflit

[fleet edge]

The giant wall of text?

I’m not doing that

[rustic eagle]

Whats "available to play : 16"

[fleet edge]

[elder flume]

when you have multiple device and enemies taking 5k true x 2 spammable and newbie problem is dps

[glass monolith]

Bro fuck Ave boss lmao what the hell was that

[elder flume]

theres really not much trouble

[fleet edge]

Where is that

[rustic eagle]

When you put your mouse on top of an op

It shows a score

And "available to play:16"

[fleet edge]

I don’t have a mouse
I’m on mobile

[toxic flume]

Ok bro using Crownslayer loop technique

😭 😭

[rustic eagle]

Do you have any way of checking the individual scores of the ops

[fleet edge]

I saw it
可出场
I don’t have the context to know what that means though

It just means can deploy

[rustic eagle]

What would you translate it to

I see

[weak gazelle]

yeah
HG go easy on this one

[rustic eagle]

Is it always 16 for you too

[fleet edge]

Yea

[rustic eagle]

It’s kind of weird

That all units have the same value

[fleet edge]

Shrug

Anyways is tragodia out yet

[rustic eagle]

Been for some time

[weak gazelle]

last year yeah

[signal vector]

He was here since VB #1

We had the privellege to use him during VB #1 even

[fleet edge]

So after M3?

[hidden axle]

Rerun after anni limited

[fleet edge]

Hmm

[hidden axle]

Save pulls fr

Monhun collab also expected

[hidden axle]

We got a teaser few weeks back

[weak gazelle]

that guy is absolute gigachad

[rustic eagle]

That’s evil

[hidden axle]

Well jot immediately after

[rustic eagle]

A bunch of stacked stuff there

[toxic flume]

Ok @hidden axle that Utage CM clear , that guy is master of roadblock

[hidden axle]

[rustic eagle]

Oooo like roadblock stages

[fleet edge]

I don’t see him?

[hidden axle]

I think I will stick to pram2 solo

[toxic flume]

X9 roadblock

[fleet edge]

This is all I see

[signal vector]

Can I see what r u working with? Like ur squad

[toxic flume]

And use Statue to push enemy pass roadblock and loop

[alpine nebula]

i can send my krooster, just a sec

[hidden axle]

Ofc, anni limited isnt out yet either
I just said its after, not immediatelt after either

[fleet edge]

Oh

[rustic eagle]

Man now that you say that

[fleet edge]

That’s like

Forever away

[rustic eagle]

I really don’t wanna have to

Spend a million pulls on this banner

[hidden axle]

We had trag like late nov iirc

Anni limited is usually in oct

Erm I'll shut up this is about to break rule 5

But its close

To anni limited

[weak gazelle]

uhh off rate is the only way to get him until his rerun banner available

[hidden axle]

Pick3 on 28th

Well thats 33% for trag alone

Hope they keep the good ops

[toxic flume]

I want pull Tragodia since i use Yu as main elemental

[rustic eagle]

I rly like the m3 pick3

[weak gazelle]

well assuming HG didnt powercrept him so early

[toxic flume]

Also Nasti + Pram alt in IS6 gonna be OP

[rustic eagle]

Nasti is on the last tier of the arkrec tier list btw

Higher than vrownslayer

[weak gazelle]

uhh nasti
another good bait along with titi
this really a headache

[rustic eagle]

And mlynar

[toxic flume]

I doesn't see something interesting from titi

[weak gazelle]

i will just wait cn anniv first

[fleet edge]

Is Warfarin and M3 able to perma sustain Surtr lol

[hidden axle]

Yeah wait fir anni

[alpine nebula]

https://www.krooster.com/u/reddu

[hidden axle]

Remember that we had a monhun collab teaser too

[glass monolith]

I'm hyped for stupid sleep stalls

[hidden axle]

Another innocent soul lost to wisrot

[toxic flume]

Nastu can create high ground platforms which is useful in some situations when you cant deploy high ground on good positions

[hidden axle]

Dont

Get wang instead

More broken in terms of dmg than wis

[hardy needle]

Can paramix snow tile slow stack with mostima slow talent

[weak gazelle]

yeah outside of keeping wang alive
but seeing nasti keep increasing in value i took the same judgment toward titi too

[hidden axle]

Yes

[toxic flume]

Agree

[signal vector]

The answer would be just wis ngl

Just borrow wis

[alpine nebula]

alrighty then

[hidden axle]

Now that you read that let me dump my obligatory dont spark paste

[signal vector]

If u need help I can hand hold u a bit

[hidden axle]

Sparking is never optimal even for wisadel if f2p since it's a lot of pulls invested to get ine good op whereas it could have been used to get multiple good ops, not to mention you are more likely to get dupes of rate-ups and dupes are meaningless in this game for the most part

[toxic flume]

Chen alt is uhh Yu event copy?

I mean 3rd one

[weak gazelle]

imagine i got baited by zima the raging tide :icant:

[toxic flume]

5 hit to kill patriot

[rustic eagle]

I would pull zima over the other 2

I like her a lot more

[weak gazelle]

i really like earthshaker or whatever its class name
but having no range when use pepe make me rage inside :icant:

[void terrace]

Just stainless turret maybe?

It's not the best but it does work

[toxic flume]

Lmao

[void terrace]

I use Pepe as more of a heli drop than a lane holder

40s stun lock with the right asp or slow at knight enemys

[weak gazelle]

a very powerfull dmg that stuck at 1 tile is.... disaster experience

[void terrace]

Yu teleport

Or trag

[weak gazelle]

nah, i could rather pull zima and buff her instead :ya:

[toxic flume]

Also zima alt can have 4.5K damage and 1.2K defense in general content

[void terrace]

Yeahh

If they make pepes guard buff squad passive

With module

[rustic eagle]

shes also peak looks and VA

[void terrace]

I could just run her in the squad for guard buff

Like eyja

[toxic flume]

Easier

[void terrace]

Basic stage has been piss easy so far

[toxic flume]

I still hate Lappland alt event

[void terrace]

Lmao billion invis enemies

[toxic flume]

This event

?

[void terrace]

Easily

Just borrow Ling or wis

[weak gazelle]

no idea
just assuming should be if have no skill issue

[void terrace]

The pushing deer might be dangerous for ling summons

[toxic flume]

Doesn't even need wis for this event

[void terrace]

But she honestly should do fine enemy stats aren't crazy

[fleet edge]

This is braindead easy idk how do I compare this

[toxic flume]

That mf 1 shot my yu

[void terrace]

No space to push back?

I used saalter to freeze it

Or just pram to slowly kill it

[fleet edge]

Just make them the big dragon and then place your lvl1 filler op behind them and it’s all g

[void terrace]

Outrangjng that thing is the only real option outside of cc

[fleet edge]

Nah I just braindeaded it w Ling

[void terrace]

Real

[weak gazelle]

i facetank it with penance
it took all her hp shield in 1 atk tho

[fleet edge]

I always just end up using Ling every event to trust farm just like back in the old days

[toxic flume]

I

[weak gazelle]

trust farm is less interesting i guess
since current base have 6 activity room acting as passive trust farm

[toxic flume]

Also ceobe in dungeons meshi as a boss is asa

[weak gazelle]

but yeah old habbit die hard :ya:

[toxic flume]

Like I must dealing with 4 Pompeii as newbie??

Fuck no

[rustic eagle]

@hidden axle may i ask is there a way on arkrec to filter stuff by op to see op achievements

[undone herald]

slightly harder than Ato, which was exceptionally easy

[toxic flume]

ATO isn't hard man
Very easy

[undone herald]

thats what I said

[toxic flume]

Like you can just let boss kill himself

[weak gazelle]

where 4 pompeii map again? i forgor

[toxic flume]

Ex stage of dungeon meshi

Or maybe.3

But i remember 4

[undone herald]

Raidian can solo all but the boss stage for OS, she can solo the boss too for Ato (and half of the EX stages as well)

[toxic flume]

DT EX 8

[elder flume]

deer is silenceable btw

[toxic flume]

Just stun

[elder flume]

wall push is only 5k damage

[toxic flume]

It almost 1 shot ever Defenders except hoshi

And some operator that increases their hp

[elder flume]

thats why just silence to never be pushed

else early deploy to be shifted 11 tiles

[toxic flume]

Imagine seeing ts when you only have 2 E2 operators

[void terrace]

Wait

Skadi s2

Is lowkey the perfect target

For ssalter skill 2

Especially when combing with ulpi

Her atk buff is instsnt

And she has lower redeploy time anyway so mega slashes

[plucky flint]

and also faster redeploy

[void terrace]

Yes

Honestly it's a bit too clunky

Defence or damage reduction screws it instantly

Texas is much easier to discount and spam and disrupt

[visual apex]

Hello everyone im new to the group but i have a question should i get the copies of both pramanix alter and silverash alter? I just got them both luckily in 20 pull or wait for the next limited?

[void terrace]

Wait next limited

If you are new

[visual apex]

Oh ok thanks!

[gentle cove]

you got both featured aswell, you don't need pots
generally not that good

[umbral kite]

pots arent really relevent unless you're playing certain niches or you're a masochist (high risk cc player)

[rustic eagle]

be grateful

of your luck

and hold onto your pulls

you got away with two units for almost nothing

no need to spend further

[visual apex]

Oh ok ok ill save up for wang then

[hollow turtle]

yall think this is all it takes to take down all of general content, cuz holy the siblings are op

or maybe I add an ulpi and trag?

but yeah gawd dayumm

[sick knoll]

if you can't clear might be a massive skills issue ⛈️

[hollow turtle]

im just tryna find a short-handed team with the siblings

[sly drift]

Yes.. this four alone basically throw Arknights difficulty down to the soil

[hollow turtle]

wicked

I might lowkey add a robot tho

for s3 purposes

but then again 25 dp cost exu2 isnt too bad

[umbral kite]

fill the rest of the slots with robots (and u-official)

[hollow turtle]

[umbral kite]

it actually fills out perfectly

[toxic flume]

Alr gg

[honest chasm]

I got 3 of the new Silver Ash and Pramanix in under 200 pulls and gon put them in this team.

Should Saga come out for silver ash and Geobe out for Pramanix?

Also is it worth it to get Wis'adel/alter lappland?

I really like them, but don't know who they would replace in my team line up

[toxic flume]

You can replace saga with SA and Ceobe/blaze with Pram

[honest chasm]

That's what I was thinking too

[toxic flume]

Also Skadi and Kaltist re replaceable

[honest chasm]

Would Mont3r heal enough?

[umbral kite]

wis would replace chen2, lappalter would would replace ceob/blaze i guess

[toxic flume]

Did you see Kaltist as medic?

[honest chasm]

She sometimes heals others

[umbral kite]

she's a guard in disguise

[honest chasm]

:3

[toxic flume]

True

[woeful cipher]

Is the new silverash good?

[toxic flume]

If you missed it you gonna regret it

[honest chasm]

And I take it Wis and Chen2 couldn't be in the same team, since they both cost a bunch to deploy and both are snipers

[woeful cipher]

I was trying to get pramanix rn but got him instead

[umbral kite]

and they both do the same thing essentially but wis does it better

[toxic flume]

He can reduce your operator DP costs to 0

[woeful cipher]

Hes able to reduce dp cost i see, sounds kinda broken

[honest chasm]

I wanted Lappland and wis, but got 3 Silverash and 1 Pramanix :(

[woeful cipher]

3 Silver Ash 😭

[umbral kite]

you got pram therefore is fine

[rustic eagle]

the odds of getting specifically those two

[toxic flume]

I got Goldenglow instead of Lappland

[woeful cipher]

0???

yo

[rustic eagle]

are very low

[woeful cipher]

thats broken af for alot of hard pushes

[toxic flume]

Yeah 0

[woeful cipher]

LMAOOO bro what

[rustic eagle]

did you read his skills

[honest chasm]

Wait what is the point of bagpipe in my team then

if he does that

[toxic flume]

Dps

[rustic eagle]

bagpipe kind of doesnt have a point to be there regardless

[toxic flume]

Agree

But atleast better than saga

[woeful cipher]

I read up the first skill and began to wonder "might as well ask the ogs"

[rustic eagle]

but sash doesnt instantly turn all your dp costs to 0 you guys seem to be under that impression

[woeful cipher]

How good is pramanix

[rustic eagle]

im very far from an OG

[honest chasm]

But they seemed so good together

Saga hit's them to 1 hp and bagpipe finishes for extra DP

[toxic flume]

Yeah

[toxic flume]

Freezing your blue box

[woeful cipher]

Well still better than me who needs someone to simplify it down for them

[toxic flume]

You can see from same image

[woeful cipher]

what that mean

[woeful cipher]

oh

[toxic flume]

Some enemy cant enter blue box until they destroy it

[woeful cipher]

thats actually good

hows she on attacks

[umbral kite]

goated

[toxic flume]

But Unblockable and fly unit still kick your ass

[umbral kite]

she's got big dph

[umbral kite]

not wisadel levels but still big

[woeful cipher]

pretty good then

will tryna get her

[toxic flume]

But Pram alt isnt good am her actual class job

She more like support unit

[rustic eagle]

idk if i would say that

[honest chasm]

So now this is with the new characters.

In case I don't spend money I could exchange one of these

[toxic flume]

Ah yeah

[honest chasm]

Are any of these good for my current team in place of someone else

[wheat arch]

What does that even mean?
Shes doing fat arts while applying slow & snow tiles, that is way better than most casters already

[umbral kite]

how many contracts are you at

or whatever they're called

[honest chasm]

It says "Remaining 113"

[umbral kite]

ok so you need 13 more pulls to spark one of them?

[honest chasm]

yeah, so with daily pulls I can get that

or go open wallet, for Lappland/Wis

[umbral kite]

taking about these things

[honest chasm]

but then I like chen and goldenglow so don't want to take them out really.

[umbral kite]

save for chen3 then

[honest chasm]

187 of those

[toxic flume]

I mean her class is caster that being tank until skill activated look at Lin fir example that she still tank some damage
But Pram cant
Doesn't mean she is bad but yeah she cant tank like others

[umbral kite]

and use lappy + gg together

[wheat arch]

Oh thats what you meant

[honest chasm]

Wait there is a Chen3?

[wheat arch]

Yeah she doesnt have modx

[toxic flume]

Chen guard cn

In wang banner

[fleet edge]

She’s a perma unit

[honest chasm]

Yoda:
there is another

[toxic flume]

If she can tank like others she gonna be true AFK until ngl

[fleet edge]

I mean if you have Sash2

She can

[wheat arch]

Shes already the best afk unit probably

[toxic flume]

Yeah

[honest chasm]

Is there a way to get Lappland/Wis later, like will they get a banner thingie again

[wheat arch]

But yeah, having modx will help

[fleet edge]

The self revive w sash2 freeze immune and hp regen is pretty good

[toxic flume]

WisAdel almost in ever off rate

[wheat arch]

There wont be a rate up banner for them

[toxic flume]

[wheat arch]

Have to spark or offrate

[rustic eagle]

what is it gonna do

[honest chasm]

so they could come again
Meaning I can start saving until that, because I feel getting around 100 pulls would be quite expensive

[fleet edge]

Raising pram 2 while watching Wang come in 3 months and straight up power creep her

[rustic eagle]

her current mod seems okay and i want to upgrade her either way but

current mod wouldnt be particularly difficult to surpass

[wheat arch]

If we are assuming Lin’s mod, she will retain some def stats from her offskill trat

[hidden axle]

There is jirc, you can look up records made by an operayor

(For reference pram2 made more records than logos in 6 months whereas logos needed 2 years to reach where he is)

[honest chasm]

in every you mean?

[fleet edge]

Where’s Logos

[rustic eagle]

not enough ig..

[wheat arch]

Wang should be the top now i assume

[fleet edge]

I don’t see how he can beat Mon3tr to be the top

Is there a single scenario to not bring m3

[hidden axle]

Shrimply kill faster with wsng

[wheat arch]

Iirc wang has the most amount of low ops record as of now

[toxic flume]

Almost every limited banner

[fleet edge]

Low ops record is only simply one category

[toxic flume]

[honest chasm]

That is quite a lot

I shall not gamble with moneh then

I can get it later by saving enough

[toxic flume]

Some doesn't have

[fleet edge]

M3 gaps Tragolia in usage so much that she might as well create a whole new tier for herself

Overloaded kit is overloaded

[wheat arch]

Thats the tierlist for recent events

This is the general tierlist

And its without wang and chen

[hidden axle]

My saintess

[toxic flume]

@honest chasm bad news rn inCn WisAdel still doesn't have off rate banner

[thick sphinx]

Radian? Where is she used?

[fleet edge]

IS

[honest chasm]

I would want to gamble on it for the chance at 30% at Lappland/Wis

But the 4 6stars I have gotten are the 3 Silverash and 1 Pramanix.

SO I don't see myself getting around that 70% chance to get them..

and the worst part is, I do pulls and only get more potential on silver ash/pramanix 2

[thick sphinx]

Ohh

[hidden axle]

how is bro not aware of raidian's explpits in IS6

[thick sphinx]

I thought these were events, like the limited ones

[honest chasm]

So gotta save 300 pulls for her or gamble with 100 pulls worth of money

[thick sphinx]

I am lol, wrong event assumption

[hidden axle]

Thats everywhere I think

All low op records

[wheat arch]

The website is somewhat focused on low ops so raidian is pretty decent there

[thick sphinx]

Eh?

[toxic flume]

[thick sphinx]

Ahhh

[wheat arch]

But shes pretty bad in general if you are just trying to play with a full team

[honest chasm]

Ray is almost like W right

[toxic flume]

No

[thick sphinx]

Ah alr, welp, she's placed above some pretty good ops so i was kinda confused lol

[void terrace]

Veeeery different

Ray is very focused on niche target removal and bind

[hidden axle]

Be it W1 or Wisadel, ray is different from both

[void terrace]

With high uptime

Wis and her base are both aoe stun

[toxic flume]

But ngl high diff IS6 WisAdel kinda suck

[wheat arch]

Ehh

Shes still pretty good

[fleet edge]

Wisadel aka thornedchestadel

[wheat arch]

The problem is that she wants 2 sniper vouchers to come online

Her e1 is nothing impressive

[fleet edge]

I already stopped borrowing her in IS
She just kills herself on chests

[wheat arch]

Other ops like exu or pram can already do work even at e1

But after e2 wis is still top tier

[woeful cipher]

how do i use the avanlanche control system in the new event? My operators keep dying even if i place it

[toxic flume]

Yeah but it gonna be shit in end 2

[wheat arch]

Why? Wisadel is one of the best left lane holders

You just need to retreat her summons

[umbral kite]

the control system speeds up the avalanche

[umbral kite]

the first version atleast

[fleet edge]

Either use the avalanche to kill enemies or defend it so they can’t enter

[umbral kite]

the second version stops avalanches and the third protects your ops from them

[toxic flume]

Left hold?
I just let both side leak and kill boss

[wheat arch]

Wisadel is also one of the only few high grounds in the game that can open clarity which is impressive

[woeful cipher]

thats the trigger system that speed it up, theres a control system which says "protects all units from avalanches, retreats from the field after an avalanche occurs"

[toxic flume]

Well end5 is gonna be something else

[fleet edge]

Wang will probably be stronger than Wisadel
But he’s a guy…

[umbral kite]

the op has to be behind the protection system when the avalanche occurs

[toxic flume]

But he base in Chinese

[umbral kite]

each statue forces an avalanche in one direction

[toxic flume]

[fleet edge]

I’m Chinese I don’t see what am I supposed to be looking at

[umbral kite]

that just makes him even better

[fleet edge]

Base what

[honest chasm]

I counted what the packs give, It would cost like 130€ or more for around 100 pulls I think

so yeah not getting Wis or lappland

[woeful cipher]

yeah i placed it in the middle of the operator and avalache system, my guy still died

[fleet edge]

Idk if I’m gonna be rolling on Wang
The story would really need to sell it to me

[toxic flume]

like yk how HG make yan like Very very powerful nation

[fleet edge]

He’s not even a hot guy to me

[toxic flume]

He just 2nd brothers

[umbral kite]

and you're sure it was in the right direction?

[toxic flume]

Fun fact : chongyue appearance base on Yan emperor that kill Sui

[umbral kite]

can you screenshot where you're placing it

[rustic eagle]

He can explode

he should

[woeful cipher]

right infront of them yes. Does it have to be infront of the operator to the right or infront of the op so its in the middle of the op and the avalache system?

[toxic flume]

Ah yeah she die from spiders

[honest chasm]

Which of these is best to get

I like W so might just get her

[toxic flume]

1 revive gone

[toxic flume]

Skadi Ros

[honest chasm]

Skadi was a healer in a way

and Rosmontis is a big sniper

So rosmontis is doing the same as Wis'adel

like sniping

[toxic flume]

She Just WisAdel but can't hit air and doesn't have BIG aoe

[rustic eagle]

She cannot hit air

Also she’s infinitely weaker

[umbral kite]

the avalanche direction isnt tied to the position of the statue, here this works perfectly fine

[rustic eagle]

She’s strong in IS tho

[umbral kite]

let me try and get a better example

[honest chasm]

is the normal W decent or just not good enough to spend 200 tickets on

[rustic eagle]

Idt she’s any good sadly

[fleet edge]

Does she have any base skills

[toxic flume]

Also why you still use Exu 1?

[woeful cipher]

oh i see, behind then. That works

[honest chasm]

you mean me?

[toxic flume]

Yeah

[honest chasm]

idk exusiai is cool so she in team

[toxic flume]

[honest chasm]

was like one of the first 6 stars alongside Kaltsit

Here's my other 6 stars

Ray could replace Exusiai

probably

[umbral kite]

no no, you dont place it depending on where the operator is facing, you place it depending on where the avalanche is facing

[toxic flume]

Skip ATO?

[honest chasm]

Huh?

ATO?

[toxic flume]

Hoshi alt event

[honest chasm]

ye

[woeful cipher]

yeah i got it. I placed it infront of the op before so it didnt work. Basically it place it to the back of the op

[honest chasm]

I think

[umbral kite]

thats not what im saying

[umbral kite]

look at the second image

the avalanche starts from the right and moves to the left

[toxic flume]

So yeah you missed best healer in game (rn)
And defender that deal 2 K damage

[woeful cipher]

you oh nvm i read it wrong

place it depending on the tower

hm

[woeful cipher]

so place it infront of the place where the tower makes the wind blow

[umbral kite]

you want to place the control system inbetween the operator and the side of the screen that the avalanche starts from

[woeful cipher]

okeh

[honest chasm]

what are their names

[toxic flume]

Haruka and Hoshi alt

[umbral kite]

haruka and hoshiguma the breacher

[honest chasm]

I think I might have done that, but I usually just buy the 3 pulls and not the character

[toxic flume]

Hoshi alt deal 2 K damage with S3

[umbral kite]

https://tenor.com/view/haruka-without-text-haruka-arknights-arknights-arknights-game-gif-12453010151918555491

[honest chasm]

oh her

but she was in the banner no?

[woeful cipher]

@umbral kite Doess the same mechanism apply for the second condition?

[rustic eagle]

You know the mushroom enemies

[toxic flume]

She is

[honest chasm]

Were they free to get or only via pulls

Haruka and new Hoshiguma

[rustic eagle]

Works the same way

[woeful cipher]

yes

[umbral kite]

second condition?

[woeful cipher]

we weere talking about the third one

[umbral kite]

oh yeah

[woeful cipher]

theres the second one where it stops the wind for a specific period

[umbral kite]

the second just stops an avalanche from happening entirely for a period of time

[toxic flume]

Both not free ofc but atleast Haruka isn't limited

[woeful cipher]

so i dont have to place it based on the wind on this one?

Man the new astgenne is somehow fun to play

[honest chasm]

Yeah I didn't pull for the banner, because I didn't rly have pulls saved up I think it was

• didn't know about them being very good good

[toxic flume]

She back after wang banner

[woeful cipher]

how does this calculate to global

like time period

[fossil sphinx]

irene banner 🥳

[fleet edge]

No

[fossil sphinx]

global also mighit switch up operators

[rustic eagle]

Is it for filthy IS reasons you’re happy to see her

[fossil sphinx]

i think every global orienteering has had a different lineup

[fossil sphinx]

she gets a pretty nifty IS mod

[rustic eagle]

I pray they keep the ones I care about lol

[fleet edge]

That is one crazy orienteering banner

[fossil sphinx]

but yostar could giga troll

[rustic eagle]

Yuh I’ve heard which is why I said that

[fossil sphinx]

it could be an upgrade tho!

[fleet edge]

Honestly probably better to just use rolls on Wang tho

[fossil sphinx]

you never know

[fleet edge]

If u care about meta

[woeful cipher]

huh, global does that?

[fossil sphinx]

but also yes just roll wang

ya every time they switch in and out a few

usually like 1-2

[umbral kite]

they did with the joint operation banner we got i think

[fossil sphinx]

sometimes its an upgrade sometimes its a downgrade

you never know

[umbral kite]

during icebreaker

[woeful cipher]

I got back to the game after like 4-6 months, what are these 🥀

[fossil sphinx]

i think most JO banners are also different by like 1 person

😭

[umbral kite]

just a banner with 4 ops on it that they release from time to time

[woeful cipher]

ig one person isnt that bad

[umbral kite]

usually with random minigame events

[woeful cipher]

hm

[toxic flume]

But Yeah Gay wolf banner us skip able

[toxic flume]

This mf is like random bs

[woeful cipher]

who even is that

[umbral kite]

im gonna be honest i thought you were talking about lappland 😭

[umbral kite]

guy from il siracusano

leontuzzo's friend

[fossil sphinx]

vigil's ex

[toxic flume]

Nah That unemployed wolf still better

[woeful cipher]

idk shi about the lore (gotta read it like a storybook soon)

[fossil sphinx]

6 star shamare doll

[toxic flume]

Bro make my fighter being Assassin

😭

[haughty flower]

Except he doesn't have -% atk so in some scenarios he can't replace shamare

[umbral kite]

like 2

[woeful cipher]

in general i take 8

[toxic flume]

Who do you have

[vivid rain]

“enough” healer

[toxic flume]

Wtf

[umbral kite]

you can get away with 0 alot but 2 should be good enough

perfect for surtr

[woeful cipher]

treating everyone on the platform

[toxic flume]

Medic class 3 actually healer 1

[vivid rain]

raw dog 0 medic if your team is straight up loaded

otherwise just take like enough to cover your team’s layout

[woeful cipher]

I usually take my lumen and we roll

[umbral kite]

mon3 and perfumer are more than enough

[toxic flume]

Mon3 is probably enough most of the time

[woeful cipher]

I missed both sadly enough

[vivid rain]

Mon3 prolly solo heal everyone

[toxic flume]

Perfumer passive still too low but it global range

[toxic flume]

Nah Haruka

[umbral kite]

how did you miss perfumer

[woeful cipher]

how bout reed

[woeful cipher]

Been off the game for a few months

[vivid rain]

do these people actually play the game at all or are they ex-8 warriors

[umbral kite]

she's been in the game since the start 😭

[vivid rain]

“heal the team” and bro brings up haruka like what range cuh

she just heal your chokepoint 🥹

[toxic flume]

But ngl SS EX 8 is most hardest stage for me in this year

[woeful cipher]

Somehow I dont have her lmao

[vivid rain]

sounds like a skill issue tbh

[umbral kite]

mt-s-5

[umbral kite]

recruit more

[toxic flume]

How tf you still doesn't have perfume-....
Nvm i got Myrtle after clear ch 13

[umbral kite]

and get luckier

[toxic flume]

Easiest S stage i have ever seen

[woeful cipher]

oh i can get her from there? nice

[woeful cipher]

Funnily enough. Theres always that one char you dont get for a while

[toxic flume]

You can clear MT S 5 with only "2ops"

[vivid rain]

what was mt s 5 again

[woeful cipher]

my luck usually goes on headhunting like getting the banner char in 20-30 pulls.

[umbral kite]

[vivid rain]

i lowkey dont remember gen content codes

[toxic flume]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=shhidt0a_mc

[rustic eagle]

So like really fucking lucky

[umbral kite]

mt = masses travels

[haughty flower]

PV-S-1:

[rustic eagle]

To not say anything offensive

[vivid rain]

oh the geekxu stage

berry fun stage

would spam geekxu s3 again

[pearl compass]

W on preview is too sussy here.

[toxic flume]

Watching them fall

[rustic eagle]

Wdym?

[toxic flume]

[vivid rain]

wis when she does actually straight up fuckall

lemon is better here because you dont have to wait half an hour for boss to cone to you

[scarlet fulcrum]

4* need 6 months to make record, certainly notable stage

[woeful cipher]

I legit used to question why people need so many pulls for a character until i realized people get them later on. I didnt used to play alot so I just collected whatever i could on a daily basis and pulled 20-40 pulls on most banners except the ones i didnt like/want. Ig 50-60% of the time i get them early on. Like i got the new silverash on 21st pull on the banner

[umbral kite]

can i have some of your luck 🥺

[vivid rain]

21st is pretty good, i got pram on the first 10 pulls but havent seen his ass yet

[toxic flume]

Well i got SA and Pram in 30

[woeful cipher]

sure. All my luck somehow poured on arknights. Every other gacha died with shi luck

[toxic flume]

GoldenGlow off rate at roll 20

2 pram at roll 30

[woeful cipher]

Was expecting to get them on first 10 but nah luck aint so good 🥀 . Im trying to pram now. Hopefully i dont need 80

[umbral kite]

i only got 4 6*'s in 200 pulls somehow

[scarlet fulcrum]

Thats quite bad ye

[toxic flume]

Also SA alt in free 10

[woeful cipher]

how many pulls did you make in total

[toxic flume]

31

Extra 10 to test my luck but yeah Only 4*

[scarlet fulcrum]

3 SA in 50 pulls, i probably will save for ch3n

[woeful cipher]

bro got 4 6* in 31 pulls?

[toxic flume]

Banner results

[toxic flume]

Let me send it in #salt-mines rq

[umbral kite]

build your pramalter

[toxic flume]

Alr E2 60

Just screenshot from yesterday

[woeful cipher]

wild

[toxic flume]

Also yeah i sent my pull in #salt-mines

[toxic flume]

Ii was shocking for a few seconds

[woeful cipher]

was that your best ever pull or did you get even wilder luck strokes

[toxic flume]

Yu in 20 chong yue from daily pull

[woeful cipher]

Rose is dying

[toxic flume]

Kinda

Also Hoshi and Haruka in 40

[woeful cipher]

whats the most pull you even made in a banner

[toxic flume]

My deepest pull is 193 on Lappland

[umbral kite]

this one

[woeful cipher]

damn

[toxic flume]

And not fucking get her

[fleet edge]

I’m looking at YouTube comments for Wang and I’m crying
Why power creep when we can power sprint

[woeful cipher]

all that luck came back on lappy banner

Is getting astgenne alt tokens worth it

[toxic flume]

I spent my 12 hours per day to clear main story and side story for pull

[glass monolith]

Well blind attempt on OS-10 went as well as attempt with only 3 people who know how to shoot up would

[toxic flume]

And gambling for her

[pearl compass]

Yes, but not because she's useful.

[woeful cipher]

that shi sucks

[pearl compass]

It will pay off one year later.

On rerun.

[woeful cipher]

how so

[toxic flume]

Only niche skills is S2

[pearl compass]

You can buy it once again.

[toxic flume]

But she worse than Crownslayer

😭

[glass monolith]

But Crownsalyer is peak

[pearl compass]

How do you think what will happen if you have pots for already maxpoted character?

[woeful cipher]

she that bad?

[pearl compass]

[glass monolith]

Laugh in Vigil

[toxic flume]

Even rn Crownslayer is useable and Good at her job fir Stun loop

[pearl compass]

@woeful cipher

[toxic flume]

And this bitch is like S3 connect 2 enemy together ... useless if doesn't have Multi hit
S1 pull enemies with moderate
Suck
S2 mid

[woeful cipher]

i dunno, didnt go that far yet

[toxic flume]

Overall suck

[rustic eagle]

You get gold certs

[pearl compass]

You can convert them for Gold Certs.

[rustic eagle]

Everytime I see this I wanna build utage more

[pearl compass]

Which afterwards can buy either more Banner Pulls

Or Shoperator.

[toxic flume]

We gonna use her in S stage

E1 required

[pearl compass]

So even if welfare is pure trash

[woeful cipher]

OHHH

[pearl compass]

You still get profit from him for getting more powerful characters.

[woeful cipher]

how much gold certs for each

[pearl compass]

Since it's SixStar, more.

[woeful cipher]

damn

[pearl compass]

Refer to Shop Convert Rules.

It tells you how much.

[woeful cipher]

oh 15

thats pretty neat

[pearl compass]

Yeah

[woeful cipher]

is astgenne alt useful in any way though

[pearl compass]

Not much

She's usable

[toxic flume]

Also i doesn't need ines anymore since i have Sa alt ( i dont have ines )

[woeful cipher]

rip

[pearl compass]

But

[woeful cipher]

i somehow have both

[pearl compass]

Nothing that you gonna play more than 50% of times with her.

[woeful cipher]

im just running vulpis and sa alt on my vanguard now

[toxic flume]

Vulpis is kinda useful with he camouflage

[void terrace]

When she gets her other mod

She's gonna be brutal

[toxic flume]

True

[void terrace]

Saalt and lapdumb is

Instant activation

Of her skill

Very fast start up or heli drop stun potential

She can drop and proc a lot of stuns

[toxic flume]

that fox effect that applies stun should be a bit longer or just add more stun duration

[void terrace]

Vulp mod when

They knew she would be too broken

If she had saga mod

[river atlas]

avalanche bypasses barrier

[elder flume]

it doesnt

[river atlas]

you sure?

[pearl compass]

It does bypass

Because

She took damage

I actually wondering will Mudrock nullify the mechanic of this event

Guess not

[rustic eagle]

I love mudrock

[pearl compass]

You can try again to make her take -5000

So you will notice she will die.

[elder flume]

if you can shift then yes its damage because shield procs after deploy

[pearl compass]

And barrier does no shit.

[elder flume]

if cant shift then it barrier takes damage

deploy is always priority

[pearl compass]

Oh

[rustic eagle]

Who’s the last op btw still in your deployment bar

[pearl compass]

Now it's interesting

[river atlas]

Its heidi

[rustic eagle]

Icty

[elder flume]

if you had waited another avalanche while Mudrock was on ranged tile youd see

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yea thats it

Tested with Nian her shield worked just fine

[left egret]

Where we can find the other people stage records again? I am curious did someone complete the chapter 16 bear stage with silverash and his alter duo

[glass monolith]

Well we have this arkrec or whatever site, but it is mostly top clears of stages by specific gimmick and to my knowledge Silverash and his alter duo is not something going on

[void terrace]

Has anyone tried buffing pram

She actually has bullshit scaling on her s2

Maybe skalter

[hexed zodiac]

Would you rather buff pram2 or just bring a second pram2

[void terrace]

I don't buy that argument i do like making units useful in a pinch

[hexed zodiac]

Would you rather buff wisadel or just bring a second op that does the same damage as wisadel

[void terrace]

I do have all units this is more a theoretical

Current squad for reference

Just want to do funny things with pram esp with her perma duration skill

It's a 380% arts scale with very high base atk

[hexed zodiac]

Just do funny ulipi and sahsalter idk

[void terrace]

I'm using Sui buff passively already

So maybe skalter to the mix

Her ice floor procs only once a second not twice right

Was thinking of logos talisman but it's kinda useless

[river atlas]

I would rather buff pram

[rustic eagle]

[river atlas]

I mean, id love to have two pram2s but last i checked u cant

[elder flume]

RA duplication

[fossil sphinx]

scaling works well in IS

good mode

play more IS

[fossil sphinx]

stronghold protocol

[elder flume]

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[umbral kite]

yu upscale

[steel prairie]

what skill and mod should Fartooth use ???

[river atlas]

<@&586570970345635868> bot

[plucky flint]

modx but why do you wanna use her

[steel prairie]

Im creating a "knight" squad

for lore purposes

[fossil sphinx]

wait 6 months for SP:A second half

kazimerz faction returns

[steel prairie]

whats SP:A ???

[gentle cove]

stronghold protocol : something

[south spindle]

keep general questions in #help

[steel prairie]

am I safe to ev en go there ???

[south spindle]

you say that like you're at danger

the biggest danger is your unwillingness to understand

[lofty stag]

[steel prairie]

they dont e ven let me talk or let me explain the situation

they always assume Im afk farming or I have all the Ops

[south spindle]

if you want to know something in a certain scenario,
specify the scenario

[steel prairie]

thats what I did last time and they bash me for it

or they wont even let me specify the scenario

[south spindle]

if they bash you for asking with scenario then refer them to the rules

its in the rules

if you don't specify, assumptions will be made for optimal advice

[steel prairie]

and you guys promise to enforce the rules ?

[south spindle]

thats kind of our job as long as we see it
if theres a problem that gets missed you DM a mod

[elder flume]

Only Yato2 Hoshi is invuln to shifted avalanche

Failed ones include
Catherine Lunacub Heavyrain Mudrock Nian Chen Penance Gravel Phantom Roberta Nearl2 Mutsumi Chilchuck

Not done with testing include Kafka Executor2

[lofty stag]

Are these ops who survive the wall slam?

Yato2 and hoshi I mean

[elder flume]

Keyword shifted avalanache

[lofty stag]

Ohhh like they don’t get shifted

[elder flume]

Unshifted is just 5k true damage same as cannon

[glass monolith]

cannon was 3k

[elder flume]

Now add story mode

[lofty stag]

Wait story mode buffs cannon

[elder flume]

Theres too many ops that survive unshifted avalanche man

[glass monolith]

It is but +100% is 6k

[glass monolith]

Enemy of my enemy is my friend taken too literally. Or they just didn't want people to cheat with +100% HP to bypass caring about cannon at all

[plucky flint]

what skill Hoshi

is that the og also

[elder flume]

Ofc

35% damage resist

[plucky flint]

oh

[full terrace]

That minigame is kinda fun

Also does this boss even have a mechanic?

[elder flume]

Its just Sentinel

[bright juniper]

stalling, that's bout it

[river atlas]

Boss does more dmg the longer its alive

and periodically goes invulnerable and needs pram to deshield

[full terrace]

Weakest one we have had in awhile, I'm not complaining

[bright juniper]

you insta lose if you take 8+ mins to kill

[hidden axle]

Apparwntly many still struggle with it

Idk how

[bright juniper]

basically just the average stationary boss

[full terrace]

Also the event timing is the worst, just as I thought about making recordings, Endfield is having 1.2 tomorrow sigh

[river atlas]

Thats just standard stationary boss mechanic

[bright juniper]

stall and then they get win con

[river atlas]

Lack of aoe/antiair

[bright juniper]

they prob let pram get mauled by the balls

[hidden axle]

Probably

Idk whats better
Lacking fundamental concepts
Or reading issues

There was thjs guy with a roster 2x nore stacked than me

And they struggled with os-10 cuz fhey didbt read mechanic

Not even p1 mechanic

Someone explained p1 mechanic but they read that after bejng prompted to

[bright juniper]

like I understand if you lose the first time

cause like you have no clue what's going on if you go in blind and don't read from wiki or smth

but getting stuck on it is insane

[hidden axle]

Ye

[heavy mason]

how does the last avalanche tool work?

[hidden axle]

Good question

Time to wiki

Never used any tool

[heavy mason]

but the achievement!

[hidden axle]

Uh

[bright juniper]

is that the control one

[hidden axle]

That just needs normal avalanches I think

[river atlas]

Its the block one

[hidden axle]

[bright juniper]

is it control or retention

[heavy mason]

its the one that protects ur ops during avalanches

[heavy mason]

control

what does behind mean in this context

[bright juniper]

like behind the direction of the avalanche

[heavy mason]

im so sorry but im still lost

[bright juniper]

if the statue is pointing to right for example, if you place it on a tile, that entire row of operators to the right of the device gets protected

[river atlas]

It works like the mushroom enemies

[heavy mason]

now i understand it. Thank you so much

[heavy mason]

lowkey, the only thing i know about them is they refuse to move at all

[bright juniper]

note that any operator below said row or to the left of the protector would not get protected in this example

[heavy mason]

which one would you consider to be the best?

out of the 3 avalanche tools?

[rustic eagle]

If you have a weak roster (me) then by far the avalanche drop one

It’s also the most fun

[bitter void]

trivializes p2 of os-10

[rustic eagle]

Tbf thl

You can easily make a stage where boom

You need this specific one instead