strategy

[odd forge]

[hidden axle]

Bengal ik you said ydk gpg much but Imma still ask: I can neither open ak nor uninstall it, time to reinstall gpg itself?

[peak dawn]

Myrtle is ass

[pearl compass]

I would just install Mumu in that case.

[odd forge]

Mumu is very smooth but my pc gonna explode

[pearl compass]

Let me guess... you leaked a dog while pressed her skill?

[hidden axle]

Oh well

[odd forge]

Just using texas

[odd forge]

Yes go on

[peak dawn]

nah I'm dumb but not atp
she just does nothing
1 block, mediocre damage

[odd forge]

[pearl compass]

Yeah, she's not supposed to deal damage.

[peak dawn]

she's oneshotting everything in the next 10 seconds

[pearl compass]

[odd forge]

That's fine

[pearl compass]

Dude, alr, bet, borrow Lemuen.
Either S2 or S3, at your choice.

If you still somehow fail to clear this...

[wicked minnow]

good stage to test new unit

[pearl compass]

I ain't be very glad.

[wicked minnow]

i think with m3 she kills and further trust and mod3

[peak dawn]

:)

[hidden axle]

Borrow tragodia, I hope yk how to use his s2

[lethal ferry]

They haven’t missed with 5* ritualists

[bitter halo]

testing sa2 freeze immune

[lethal ferry]

Can’t wait for her on global

[wicked minnow]

honestly the new 5* ritualist welfare is actually kinda nice from my testing

[peak dawn]

what do I do here when Yu was here to block ?

[wicked minnow]

yu block -> frozen -> death

[peak dawn]

I reset

[peak dawn]

but not with a medic

[pearl compass]

Can you not block her in the first place?

[hidden axle]

Why is yu dead

And yeah^

[odd forge]

Look I can cook

Ah shit.

[hidden axle]

Cooked

[pearl compass]

Blocking might be good only if you want to buy some time while she stuck at some side of the map until you ready to DPS her out.

Which would be perfect job for Gravel btw.

If you somehow have her.

[peak dawn]

one shot lemuen+ susuroo + Just my entire defense

[wise pond]

noice, thx to Ethan, Podenco, and any chain caster for dealing against flying stuffs towards blue box

Shangshu Trail, done

[odd forge]

Omg meta ops

[pearl compass]

Ok, I'm really done this time.

[peak dawn]

I think I am gonna win this time

[peak dawn]

what can I do about it ?

[pearl compass]

Nothing.

[odd forge]

Yeah brother keep cooking

Yesterday, it took me 1 day to clear it for 15-15 but it got leaked

My squad yesterday

[pearl compass]

Did you replayed it for 3-Stars?

[odd forge]

For me, Impossible

[pearl compass]

WTF

[hidden axle]

Yo where's the guy who was struggling with 15-15 with a fulle meta squad

[pearl compass]

wow

[hidden axle]

[pearl compass]

I actually intrigued how do you managed to even pass with leaks

With this shit.

[odd forge]

Barely survive

[bright juniper]

the strongest newbie of today vs the weakest veteran of history

[hidden axle]

Blaze2 stun tech

[umbral kite]

oh trag

[hidden axle]

Wtf thats blaze1

[pearl compass]

I literally vote for this dude.

[naive holly]

support user

disqualified

[austere skiff]

this is the stage with those transforming blobs right

[naive holly]

jk

[austere skiff]

leizi2/mlynar can full clear one half of the starting blobs

[odd forge]

Yeah it's annoying

[pearl compass]

Yes

[hidden axle]

They have only 1 meta op
You struggled with an entire meta rostwr

[naive holly]

yea

[hidden axle]

I say struggle but did you clear in the end

[naive holly]

i figured on my 7th try

[pearl compass]

Having Arts source might be bad, if you don't wanna face casters.

[hidden axle]

Okay yoh did

[austere skiff]

he what

[pearl compass]

Better go full Phys.

[hidden axle]

He yes

[austere skiff]

what units did he use

[odd forge]

That's why I'm tryna to avoid them

[pearl compass]

Don't use Arts then

[austere skiff]

use leizi2/mlynar and place either on the left or right side

one skill and that half of the map gets deleted

[pearl compass]

Amiya, Lappy and Trag shall leave

[naive holly]

i was just kinda dumbing on one side

i just figured to bring ray

to that side

[austere skiff]

son

son

[naive holly]

hey i am past it

[austere skiff]

how do you struggle with that

[hidden axle]

@austere skiff

Ibjust reakised you have leizi2 tol wtf

She can clear one aide asw

[naive holly]

i placed her

there

[hidden axle]

I hope you are done with go-ex-8 too

[austere skiff]

[hidden axle]

[naive holly]

not yet

i am doing other events

[hidden axle]

Tfw

Okay rhats better

[odd forge]

I cant cook this one.

Theres golem

[austere skiff]

what’s 15-18 again

[umbral kite]

use the pads

[austere skiff]

also yeah use the weakening pads

before prts can activate them

[umbral kite]

last level before ||prts||

[naive holly]

i just wanna gather as much op as i can after sa2 event and i just saw like i gurantee a 6* with the free shit only so just gathering all OP for wang banner

[umbral kite]

15-19 doesnt count

[austere skiff]

You don’t need to censor prts

[glass monolith]

Last level before trying to undo windows 11 update

[umbral kite]

what if people dont want story spoilers

[odd forge]

I was waiting for top tag but meh.

[austere skiff]

chapter 15 is unlocked the second you beat ch 3

[peak dawn]

I'm done

[glass monolith]

Sadly this community don't do that. You must know everything the moment it releases because people who read in CN will abuse lift of ban on talking about lore outside CN only channels

[austere skiff]

stage is easy with lemuen

[bright juniper]

spoiler rule only applies to some few other channels

[wicked minnow]

huh. i thought story spoilers from CN were server wide

[umbral kite]

dont forget plastering the boss over every youtube thumbnail

[peak dawn]

Even when she gets one shot when it's time for phase 2 ?

[austere skiff]

start off by placing here
use s2

face up

stall frostnova in the top left part with smth

wait for phase 2 invuln to go away

[peak dawn]

exactly my placement but she still died

[austere skiff]

let lemuen continue nuking

[umbral kite]

you know how her talent works, right?

[naive holly]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1hE421j7PF/
(open this when you are very desperate)

[glass monolith]

Well i managed to avoid spoilering chapter 16 boss. Because Sasiko killed that shit in normal stage and H was fed to bear ignoring "don't feed ruski bear" sign

[hidden axle]

They newd to be literally handheld

[bright juniper]

well how else are we supposed to talk about gameplay if we can’t talk about spoiler territory

[wicked minnow]

uhhh

gameplay is fine

[bright juniper]

if it’s like

[wicked minnow]

im specifically talking about story spoiler

[bright juniper]

only lore then yeah, we can’t talk about spoilers

but we’re talking about gameplay related spoilers

[glass monolith]

#cn-lounge exclusive for this server to my knowledge, not even #ak-lore can talk it in advance

[wicked minnow]

gameplay related is free for all yeah

like cocaine bear is fine to spoil

meanwhile people spoiling kal death 6 months in advance was 🫃

[naive holly]

thats sad

[glass monolith]

Not the spineless ex wife

[peak dawn]

IDC I LOVE YOU

[odd forge]

Demn, I really can't cook 15-18 even trag or wisdel.

Wisdel took long to active even I'll cancel her skill early.

[glass monolith]

(Check 15-18)
hehehe, no

[naive holly]

https://en.arkrec.com/operation/15-18+从未怀疑，从未远离

lmao

there is no solo clear

besides

wangsadel

[odd forge]

[austere skiff]

I told you it would work

[odd forge]

No wonder

[austere skiff]

[peak dawn]

I LOVE YOU

[austere skiff]

also wtf is that e2 glaucoma

glaucus

[bright juniper]

e2 glaucus and e2 amiya

[peak dawn]

don't mind

[pearl compass]

omg finally

who said pick Lemon

I said

[austere skiff]

no

I said it

[hidden axle]

[pearl compass]

but no thx to me I guess because I'm very rude

[wicked minnow]

neither of you guys

it was me

[hidden axle]

I said it yesterday

[pearl compass]

[austere skiff]

koo im touching you

[hidden axle]

Fuck you three

[austere skiff]

he listened to me

[wicked minnow]

i said it before yesterday

[austere skiff]

[hidden axle]

I am tossibg my dog at you

[austere skiff]

what

I’m taking you to my room

[peak dawn]

you did but like I was playing badly

[hidden axle]

He loves human fingers

[austere skiff]

I’m going to do things to you

[hidden axle]

[wicked minnow]

i have a dog retossing factory

[odd forge]

And now we gotta wait for JT8-3 guys

[pearl compass]

welp, I glad you did learned something anyway

[odd forge]

Let him cook

[pearl compass]

plz no

[wicked minnow]

jt8-3 aware

[austere skiff]

Just borrow haruka 🤫

[wicked minnow]

des knows ball

[peak dawn]

I learned that I am bad at this game and I need better ops

[glass monolith]

Incoming he gets filtered by 7-9

[odd forge]

Oh shit 7-9

[austere skiff]

Mountain 🤫

[wicked minnow]

he has a vanguard built

[hidden axle]

I wqs summoned

[wicked minnow]

surely he doesnt struggle with it

[austere skiff]

It’s Myrtle

[peak dawn]

I am gonna just get better ops by then

[austere skiff]

the vanguard is myrtle

[peak dawn]

I am freaking scared rn

[hidden axle]

Aftwr 7-9 it'll be 7-14 trust

[naive holly]

h8-4

could

filter me

idk

[austere skiff]

wtf does 7-14 even have

[wicked minnow]

he has e2 scavenger

[glass monolith]

As Nearl gaming i didn't find 7-14 troublesome

[hidden axle]

You got filtered by go-ex-8

[austere skiff]

[glass monolith]

Funny mortal spam stage

[hidden axle]

Exacrly, nothing
Just ppl ignorung aggo tutorial

[peak dawn]

I know that a stage has Mephisto but like ultra buffed

[naive holly]

i am like 99% sure i am not supposed to place saki in front of the box as first deployment

i just have that as an idea

[wicked minnow]

i dont make the bad decisions. i just point out where they would be helpful

[naive holly]

in my mind

[austere skiff]

the chapter 6 spear throwers were the tutorial for ch 7 mortars

[hidden axle]

I did that

[naive holly]

ill do it soon

trust

[austere skiff]

i did ts with an e1 level 30 patrizion

[naive holly]

ok so thats not where i go wrong

[odd forge]

Okay imma cooking ch9 to ch14

[hidden axle]

Btw des we should m3 sa2's s2

[odd forge]

Wish luck me

[hidden axle]

[odd forge]

That should be easy

[austere skiff]

+40% dmg modifier 🤫

[hidden axle]

Not that

[naive holly]

good luck

[hidden axle]

For IS shenanigans

[austere skiff]

I’m getting mixed signals

[naive holly]

i just found ch10 to be maddening

thats all

[austere skiff]

on one hand I’m hearing it’s fine to keep him at e1 inside is

on the other hand I’m hearing s2m3 for IS

[hidden axle]

It is indeed

But s2m3 has its merits too

(Speaking off an IS6 guide)

I should ask more IS peeps

[umbral kite]

you guys dont m3 every skill you use?

[glass monolith]

laugh in like 50 random m2s in roster

[elder flume]

some strat fails if you go over certain skill levels so

looks at Ange S3

[umbral kite]

how does that happen?

[elder flume]

some skills increase skill duration

changes your skill cycles

supposed to end 10s earlier to charge the next skill faster

then higher multiplier means more damage and will trigger next wave of enemies faster after current enemy dies

[glass monolith]

Ptilo S2M3 heals faster but last longer so if your strategy need to activate it twice you might shot yourself with mastery

[umbral kite]

oh no

[astral cosmos]

also some modules make clears worse

[elder flume]

then theres the Gavial S1M3 incident

[astral cosmos]

flashback to aurora module auto equip killing my autodeploy that i did before module existed

[umbral kite]

i hate autoequip

[elder flume]

just play stages with no mod as default

[umbral kite]

i thought it equips even if you have no mod as default?

[elder flume]

if before module update ye

[astral cosmos]

ya but if an op doesn't have a module at all and it gets added and u build it, it gets auto equipped anyway 😔

[elder flume]

but idt it does it anymore after a year of module intro

what would be a stage i autoed premod in 2025 hm

[pearl compass]

Honestly, it's weird feature.

I could understand changing Level and Skill Level, but Module autoequip on No Module on AutoDeploy.

Like WTF.

[austere skiff]

i remember when i did ch 9-13 without realising my tragodia was unmodded

because it didnt auto equip

his module

[elder flume]

auto is always updated to latest patch

[astral cosmos]

yeah it's kinda stupid
the auto works modless so why equip it

[umbral kite]

oh wow it doesnt

[elder flume]

e.g. GG rng seed update

[umbral kite]

hg doesnt like the empty square in the middle of the operator card profile icon thingy (i dont like it either)

[astral cosmos]

(i dont like it either)
but still

[umbral kite]

they change the rng seeds every update?

[astral cosmos]

though auto equip fucking up autos is exceptionally rare

[umbral kite]

i can see why people hate rng in this game so much now

[elder flume]

sometimes

[astral cosmos]

fym sometimes
when they feel like it?????

[elder flume]

tho its usually related to operator changes

like GG auto was true rng like Wis

[glass monolith]

And then there is me with Kroos 2, Goldenglow, etc

[elder flume]

until 2 years after release where they patched it into same rng every run

[umbral kite]

critknights

the ultimate niche

[elder flume]

there should be like 1 or 2 more seed changes but cant remember other than GG being the big factor

unless path calculation change also counts into it ig

like chap 9

[umbral kite]

-# (why do i kind of want to try this now )

[glass monolith]

Oh god, got sheep map in Icebroke. Beep Beep Beep Beep (Sounds of something constantly dying somewhere)

[celest kayak]

Does anyone have Mr. Nothing with mod?

[astral cosmos]

wish i did

[left egret]

Man. Tried to do ashy marsh annihilation, but don't have good dps and wandering medic(all low end guides that I saw on youtube used mlynar and one of the wandering medics), still almost did it but at the 380 ish my team just burned alive as my general medics stopped keeping up. But still it was wisadel borrow. Will try with good medic, preferably haruka as Eyja alter is the best wandering medic as I heard but thats it and I need some extra damage. Tried with such team with surtr and silverash as panick buttons to kill some more enemies when the enemies become tight. Any recommendations?

[rustic narwhal]

How can I make an operator survive for a second against patriot in holographic combat matrix?? Even my hoshi guma alter dies in 1 hit before my medics can do any healing

[astral cosmos]

specter s2 will survive 15 seconds

[rustic narwhal]

Wow that's smart

Gonna try

[fierce narwhal]

Stop trying to tank Patriot? Either dps him down, true damage or chip him down while slowing

[rustic narwhal]

Patriot takes 90% less damage if not blocked

Ig true damage works

[fossil sphinx]

if you ever see stats like that the strategy should never be "ill just add more defense"

think bigger

its 2026

[rustic narwhal]

But howw

Oh

I misread

[fossil sphinx]

its 2026 he shouldn't ever be blocked anyway

exu2 + yu permastalls him

yu + specter2 also works

its what risk 25 clears do

[hidden axle]

Btw you leave sa2 at e1 in IS right I read in an ISC guide that his s2 scales well with atk relics for other ops, so erm I am confused since wouldnt that need e2 sa2 cuz masteries

[fossil sphinx]

he works fine at e1, better than a lot of e1 ops
but still you'll usually find the voucher to upgrade him and the stats are nice

[hidden axle]

@austere skiff ^

[hazy sinew]

mudrocka

[exotic grove]

a very nice user called Night#9062 does
nighto1 on here

I've been using their mr nothing to bully bear

[wet tangle]

how are you supposed to do this

it's impossible

[exotic grove]

wanna try together?

[wet tangle]

no i'm playing with a friend

but we don;'t have any way to do this

if it's the stun archers it's instaloss

there's nothing to do thay counter everything

[exotic grove]

sounds like skill issue to me
unfortunately I can't help since I haven't tried it yet

[wet tangle]

nah this shit is legit bullshit

the argers have camo and they stun

and they're all over the map

[weak gazelle]

ohh that map

ops next to fontain is the key

build a strat around that

[river atlas]

arent those enemies only able to fire at enemies in the same row/column as them

[wet tangle]

no snipers = easy

[river atlas]

They also cant choose who they target, iirc? They hit whoever the projectile touches first

They also dont have a firerate stat, its a fixed 8s cd so you can bait the shot with a fast redeploy and then toss someone on top of them

Also its silenceable, i guess

[weak gazelle]

idc about the enemy, they will die regardless
it just too many pink cloud make this map unnecesary harder

[wet tangle]

they also have like a bilion hp

[river atlas]

lappalt cheeses the fuck out of a lot of the IB maps ngl

[river atlas]

tbf

These enemies are invisible while not targeting someone

[wet tangle]

no lap alt sadly

[river atlas]

thats full invis, not camo, so u cant even aoe them indirectly

[weak gazelle]

push bomb faster

i prefer do that

[wet tangle]

you can't

you gotta kill the archers

[umbral kite]

find someone with lappalt

[river atlas]

yato alter also cheeses the fuck out of the bomb stages

[wet tangle]

my friend doesn't have her

[river atlas]

It turns out being able to do a fuckton of hits while completely immune to dmg is strong

[weak gazelle]

uhhh
to make it simple is.... one of you focus on bomb the other focus on enemies

[river atlas]

failing all of those, use gravel i guess

[weak gazelle]

i enjoyed that map with 5* only
so ops choice is very2 big

[wet tangle]

gotta still defend yk

[weak gazelle]

yeah that what partner do, defend it

[wet tangle]

i wanna see someone actually clearing it withoug hceese

[river atlas]

what is cheese in this situation

[wet tangle]

lappalt

yu + lappalt probably cheeses this

[odd forge]

Yeah, I can't cook 15-18

[tawdry arch]

is there anyone online in ak rn? please join my room, need help

[hidden axle]

#icebreaker-lockers

[tawdry arch]

Room number [09egcia57g7iaa], Dr. PocaBear#1421 invites you to join in an event. (Paste the code into input box for automatic recognition)

Ok, im new here sorry

[toxic flume]

I hate who is real enemy bro

My 15 shield is gone

[sly drift]

Invitation to Wine*

[hidden axle]

Dont kill sharpedges if you cannot deal with its death spawns

[toxic flume]

also blue spirit thing

[toxic flume]

I mean i doesn't expect them to take 2.8K damage from Raidian S3

[hidden axle]

[toxic flume]

I also have Exu alt but useless

[hidden axle]

What ops do you have

[azure roost]

pro

[toxic flume]

Uh Raidian Myrtle exu and Hoshi alt

Enforcer in end4 scout

[naive holly]

15-20

[toxic flume]

This should be ok

[glass monolith]

Kill small dog, kill 3x4 windows 11.

[naive holly]

you know the enemies

who are like little circles

they leak

how to deal with those

[pearl compass]

Any puller?

[naive holly]

dont think so

[pearl compass]

Even Rope 4☆?

[glass monolith]

Slap gladiia S1 looking down on right lane if you have her, lmao

[naive holly]

e1lv40 gladiia fine ?

[naive holly]

nope

[pearl compass]

Slv7 and even with that, needs a help.

[glass monolith]

If it doesn't work put ascalon further down on right side idk to assist

[toxic flume]

My strategy

Remove Theresa and victoria

[odd forge]

Wheres the boss

[toxic flume]

I use Młynar to kill mino boss on early and deploy M3 for big boss

[naive holly]

maybe i just build rope

[toxic flume]

Alr dead

[odd forge]

Demn

[toxic flume]

M3 skill 1 time alr took 70% boss bar

[pearl compass]

The issue is you need charges so you could do this alone.

Gladiia S1M3 can solo this lane alone.

[odd forge]

Using frostleaf and kill boss

[toxic flume]

No damage

[odd forge]

[pearl compass]

Lower than that will leak some in the process.

[toxic flume]

I using M3 for saving my time

[naive holly]

hm

[foggy grove]

why rope

nara not enough?

[odd forge]

Demn it's been two days, I still can't cook 15-18

[naive holly]

her skill goes out

maybe s1

works

havent tried with s1

[toxic flume]

Do you want to deal with hateful Avenger?

[foggy grove]

yes?

it's fine with his unit

[toxic flume]

Ok your choice

[naive holly]

i have an idea

ima try that and coem back

[toxic flume]

Also he doesn't have Młynar for bait

[odd forge]

Do you have pozy and ceobe?

[pearl compass]

Looks simple.

[foggy grove]

why would they matter
what he has enough

[toxic flume]

Yeah that enough

[foggy grove]

lemuen the boss or something

[odd forge]

Not my current squad

[foggy grove]

the rest hold the lane

[naive holly]

ok no

s1 doesnt work

[odd forge]

S1?

Oh

Why s1

[naive holly]

her s1 is infinite duration

when i used s3

it went out

[toxic flume]

Ah yeah

[naive holly]

maybe i should just build gladiia for some ulpi shenanigans too

[toxic flume]

If you place that position your unit will got nuke by mudrock hit box

[odd forge]

You need study timing

[naive holly]

which unit ?

[toxic flume]

Your sniper

[naive holly]

ah

i see

[toxic flume]

It 3x3

[naive holly]

well i already leak so i didnt knew

i will try this stage later

[nocturne cove]

how can i study it

[toxic flume]

You can borrow wisAdel for shapeshifter enemy

Or if you have Suzumom

[naive holly]

i wanna do without supports

[toxic flume]

I see

[odd forge]

Trust your brain and mastery your reaction time

[toxic flume]

Alr no support unit

But i need to replace Degen with some tank

And Mon3tr can kill boss in 1 circle if her skill doesn't run out

[naive holly]

good shit

[toxic flume]

I only use WisAdel for 1 landhold

[odd forge]

Okay let's cook

Find possibilities strategy

[rustic eagle]

Gang I may be struggling with 12-19

[plucky flint]

is that the "why can't my ops block the civs"

[toxic flume]

Ok replace Degen with Hoshi alt S2

[odd forge]

And my wifeee

Noooooo my robot Is deaddd

[toxic flume]

And leak as i expected

[odd forge]

It's adverse eh

[toxic flume]

Is alr clear CM+2 with same team

[odd forge]

You know, what imma using wisdel

[toxic flume]

WisAdel face up

[rustic eagle]

Awww cmon

Have more faith in me

if i hadnt figured that one out i wouldve been stuck a while ago already

[odd forge]

Neat leizi alter pretty good

Also ray

[rustic eagle]

what does frostlead do btw

[plucky flint]

what u using to kill the drones btw

[rustic eagle]

wis skill

[odd forge]

She protect me while im in command

[rustic eagle]

shes the only op i can put down that doesnt get obliterated by them

i could go exusiai too ig

but i need the range of wis

[odd forge]

Firewatch

[rustic eagle]

i struggle with the drone going far on top left tho

he locks down that area so i cant kill the purple stick guy

so by the time he goes down im cooked

my ops cant kill him fast enough

[odd forge]

Who again

[drowsy heart]

Do you have a Fortress Defender?

[rustic eagle]

i only have the 3 star ones... and matterhorn ig...

[drowsy heart]

Someone like Horn or Firewhistle.

[rustic eagle]

nope lol

[odd forge]

Demn

[drowsy heart]

Unfortunate, since they have the range to snipe the guy in the top left.

[rustic eagle]

i wish you could silence the agitator

[rustic eagle]

would they be able to help me with the rest

my ops cant handle the big steel mask spies unless supported by my support unit

[drowsy heart]

Can cover one lane, but other than that not especially since no anti-air.

[rustic eagle]

oh then yea impossible

[winter inlet]

How do you do 6-5

[rustic eagle]

the suicide drones really lock my options down as well

[drowsy heart]

Lemuen and Exusiai the New Covenant can take care of all the spawners though.

[rustic eagle]

i can essentially only go wis

[plucky flint]

borrow penance or something

[rustic eagle]

exu i could try but the lower range than wis kinda sucks esp for revealing spies

i did use her for the stage before iirc

[drowsy heart]

Use someone like Cuora to tank the possessed.

[plucky flint]

do u have a decent defender now?

[drowsy heart]

Do you have Lunacub?

[rustic eagle]

nope

[rustic eagle]

i got matterhorn but he isnt so good i was told

[plucky flint]

think of him that he only have the most basic ops and just borrowing 1 strong op

[drowsy heart]

Yeah, I realize that now.

[plucky flint]

well uhh, out of all the 4* defender and you raise him

[rustic eagle]

wis is important cuz i think shes the only op i can use to destroy the box on top left

at least fast enough

[toxic flume]

so i need S1M3 gladia if i doesn't want to clear 15-20 Cm+2 without support

[odd forge]

Cooking is good

[hidden axle]

Not really, she's not the only solution

[toxic flume]

Ik

But i try to clear without borrowing

[rustic eagle]

OK WAIT I THINK I ALMOST HAVE IT

if i deployed that red like 5 seconds earlier

because with the spaceship in that position wis snipes the second of the purple stick guys that comes

[toxic flume]

Advance?

[rustic eagle]

wdym?

[toxic flume]

Or standard

[rustic eagle]

adverse

[toxic flume]

[hidden axle]

Whats your roster

[toxic flume]

Do standard your operator doesn't ready

[rustic eagle]

naaaaaah i can i know i can

[plucky flint]

ah fuck this is standard

[toxic flume]

*.replace Degem with Hoshi alt + Texas for extra to DP

But let me me update krooster rq

[foggy grove]

what map are you trying do

[hidden axle]

Myrtle is enough for dp

15-20

[foggy grove]

simulation?

[toxic flume]

@hidden axle check my bio krooster link is there

[toxic flume]

15-20 Cm+2 without borrowing

[hidden axle]

Which risks did you take

[foggy grove]

+2 mean?

[toxic flume]

2 conditions

[pearl compass]

2 Risks enabled.

So 2-Sim.

[toxic flume]

I alr clear that but borrowing wis For clear right side

[hidden axle]

Lemuen masteries when

Honestly more stacked than me

[toxic flume]

Wait Irene

[naive holly]

oh i forgot to ask but does building rope works ?

i can just place her for pull and then destroy using my dps and shit

if that works

[pearl compass]

Can only judge with Gladiia.

Rope can delay those Ergates, so you will have enough time to kill.

[naive holly]

ok she can delay

[pearl compass]

If you cannot - you have to work with other way.

[naive holly]

delay is fine

[toxic flume]

Gladiia can stall that with S1m3

[naive holly]

i think

[toxic flume]

Cm?

[naive holly]

no

normal

15-20

[pearl compass]

Gladiia is soloing that shit with S1M3 lmao

[naive holly]

lol

[pearl compass]

[toxic flume]

Ok this one is enough to clear

[naive holly]

ill work on rope

[toxic flume]

Yeah

[toxic flume]

Exu of turn shapeshifter into Hateful and Block with hoshi S2

[hidden axle]

Both of you have more stacked accounts than me uet stuck stop using wisadel, too much wisrot

[toxic flume]

That why i try to not borrowing

Also Mountain E1 still work fine

Also Mon3tr is actually good for kill big boss

[odd forge]

Demn I forgor put myrtle

[hidden axle]

Ggs

[toxic flume]

Rip Kevin

😔

[hidden axle]

3k def 75 res but smol hp pool

So yeah

[toxic flume]

Almost

Wait i git an idea

Ok no borrowing unit done

[toxic flume]

In CM+2 it have more hp

Like 3 times

[hidden axle]

+2 never buffs that hard

[toxic flume]

It is man

Normally it took 70% in Mont3r first activated

But this time it only 50-55%

But still 2 circle

And replace Mountain with some low DP Guardian

[uncut lark]

How do I beat Theresa on adverse difficulty? She is tanky as heck!

[bitter halo]

monster art

[sterile delta]

are you blocking the dust

[uncut lark]

Is that necessary?

[sterile delta]

she gets 90% damage reduction otherwise so

[fossil sphinx]

very much so

[bitter halo]

im ngl i watch a kyostin video 4 that

[sterile delta]

unless you're planning on hitting her with 5 million damage twice

[toxic flume]

True damage

[uncut lark]

Does she only get Physical and Arts reduction or does it also apply to True Damage too?

[bitter halo]

can true dmg even be reduced

[maiden hound]

something something kristen

[river atlas]

true dmg is just another dmg type

[toxic flume]

It can

[river atlas]

If it couldnt be reduced, true dmg would oneshot hitcount based enemies

[toxic flume]

Doesn't you Młynar in 15-20 when he hitting main boss?

[bitter halo]

oh thats like dmg limit i guess ya

[toxic flume]

But Mon3tr is allot stronger

[sterile delta]

kirsten and dbs both reduced true damage

[toxic flume]

Since it true damage base on max hp

[chrome burrow]

would narantuya be worth building over kroos alter?

[toxic flume]

Resources gap is huge

[uncut lark]

She's very strong since she can steal ATK and DEF from enemies.

[chrome burrow]

I just found when using supports that narantuya s1 is quite a big boon

[uncut lark]

Though Narantuya is better fot close quarter combat due to being a Loopshooter.

[chrome burrow]

I just did a stray 10 pull and ended up getting her idk

[uncut lark]

Meaning if she attacks a faraway enemy, she needs to wait for her projectile to return before she can attack again.

[chrome burrow]

so in 20 pulls I got her and lemuen which is cool i guess but resources ahh, but the bouncing attacks really helps especially with drones

[uncut lark]

In terms of utility, I'd say Narantuya is better.

[toxic flume]

But he still beginner

[uncut lark]

And on virtue of being a 6 star, she has better effects.

[toxic flume]

For resource gap i still give it to krooster

[drowsy heart]

Lemuen's great, I love her.

[plucky flint]

you wouldn't raise krooster past e1 40 or something anyways

[chrome burrow]

does joint operations share pity?

with standard anyway

[bright juniper]

yes, all standard soft pity carries to other standard banners

[chrome burrow]

I am just waiting for silverash and pram alter so I can get them fr

off rate wis would be cool, but i've noticed discrepancy with banners between cn and en

[hidden axle]

I was not aware about this fact I bruteforced too hard

[chrome burrow]

I think the fact narantuya can hit enemies behind her is quite nice this early

but that might be just me

[toxic flume]

I just spam Kaltist Mon3tr and Młynar

[bright juniper]

me when mon3tr wis duo

[hidden axle]

Sham+mlynar

[toxic flume]

Ah

[hidden axle]

2 cycle prts

Fun fact: maxed out aciddrop 3 cycles prts on her own

[toxic flume]

But Mon3tr can do it without buff

[hidden axle]

I need to have mon3

To usr mon3

[toxic flume]

#2 best healer

[rustic eagle]

If it’s early solo support can sweep you through anyway

[hidden axle]

Hard diff IS actually prefers her over haruka

Not that haruka is a bad draft by any means

[rustic eagle]

I would think long term atp

[fossil sphinx]

haruka the general content merchant

[bright juniper]

something something funny rd spd relics

[toxic flume]

Yeah since high diff is just...gonna 1 shot you so
Best option is kill it before it kill you

[toxic flume]

I speed run from ch 9 to ch 14 in 2 day with WisAdel

[hidden axle]

Smh wisrot

Borrow tragoatia

[toxic flume]

I need 193 pull for Lappland alt

And yeah off rate

But ch 10 isnt recommended for Wis

Since there's ICBM that deal 3K true damage

[chrome burrow]

yeah but it's nice to not fully rely on them

[rustic eagle]

I mean if you have lemuen narantuya that’s already not the case right

[chrome burrow]

really depends tbh

leu costs a lot to be placed and struggles with hordes when her skill isn't up where as narantuya doesn't really need time to do her thing

but again that's just me

[rustic eagle]

I mean I see where you’re coming from fs I’ve taken her from support too

But I think an investment that’s good long term will be good enough short term as well considering what you already have

Actually

If you invest into narantuya you’re doing it towards S3 while still being able to use S1 regardless

For everything except masteries

So no there’s no concern to have ig

[chrome burrow]

funny ears

[rustic eagle]

If only her nurse skin was still in shop

[chrome burrow]

this also means I can use someone other than wis as support

[toxic flume]

Tragodia

[chrome burrow]

found that sakiko is quite good cause her attacks travel quite far

[toxic flume]

Exu alt

[chrome burrow]

they bounce about

[toxic flume]

S2?

[chrome burrow]

yeah

[toxic flume]

Yeah for AFK

[rustic eagle]

I mean that’s the case regardless on a lot of stages tbf

[toxic flume]

Ch 10 wisAdel probably uhhh not a best option

[chrome burrow]

also it's nice to try other characters out

[rustic eagle]

Hm?

[chrome burrow]

I guess silver alter will replace fang on my squad with pram replacing surtr seeming I don't use her

we are planning

[wise pond]

the only anni stage i kinda struggle esp at the end, too much burn and invi flame i’ll come back when i get and build more ops in the future

[glass monolith]

#strategy message

[uncut lark]

I just tanked it with Haruka.

[wise pond]

i could borrow haruka but ig letting eblana near my group of ops isnt the best idea

only have logos and narantuya as carry

[uncut lark]

I just use Haruka for tanking and Tragodia to lure people away.

[wise pond]

yeah, tragodia cheese indeed

cant borrow 2

[uncut lark]

Did you join after Tragodia or lose 50/50??

[wise pond]

i joined 2 days sakiko banner ended

2 days after*

[uncut lark]

Dang.

F

[wise pond]

i’ll pull sash alter see if i can get some nice ops including feature

[odd forge]

Finally

[uncut lark]

Fast-Redploy schwing schwing shenanigans.

[left egret]

Not that hard of an anni methink. Borrow haruka or eyja alter for incredible heal and the stage is done. I pretty much don't have good operators especially 6* but managed to do it. Defender with haruka worked pretty well agains eblana, simply stalled her until she is dead(by silverash and surtr s3)

[nimble pawn]

I'm new and heard frostleaf is bad. How's your experience with her?

Her design is good though

[rustic eagle]

He’s a super frost leaf simp I was told

[hazy sinew]

she's cute but functionally weak

[pearl compass]

The reason why.

Also, E1 doesn't have any Talent, lol, I just noted now.

[rustic eagle]

Is she nerfed by this talent

[odd forge]

From my experience

She's only early chapters got decent damage but late game no

[pearl compass]

Yes, savagely

Because most of the time, you want to make your moves fast

More than strong

This will make her actually leak enemies because even if she can solo them, she will just leak some because she's wasting too much time on previous.

[odd forge]

Yeah

[pearl compass]

This will be especially awful against hitcount enemies.

Like Invitation to Wine

[odd forge]

She can solo, if slowly spawn enemies that's it.

[rustic eagle]

Holy shit I just checked the shit that happens with her S1

[pearl compass]

For reference:
Blue is Frostleaf E2-1
Yellow is Frostleaf E1-60

She loses to Midnight, an 3☆ Lord Guard, lmao!

[glass monolith]

Comparing physical against arts

[pearl compass]

[toxic flume]

Alr gg

[glass monolith]

Binding of Isaac experience. Infinite currency looping for hour

[pearl compass]

Fine, offskill DPS.
She wins only if leveled almost until maxed.

[glass monolith]

[pearl compass]

Both does Phys offskill.

[toxic flume]

End 4 is candy rn

[wicked minnow]

damn frostleaf kinda goated

she has close to the same dps as exu

kinda crazy if you think about it

[shell vessel]

is haruka good for this stage

[pearl compass]

Yes.

Don't think she needs that so hard tho.

[shell vessel]

well I don't have any medics that can handle the job rn

[pearl compass]

You might not even need medics in the first place. Just accordingly make pumps clear the water.

[odd forge]

Just using Reed alter

Trust

[left egret]

Chapter 10 annihilation (Burning district) and my choice is from picking logos to vaporise the enemies or pick eyja alter to keep my team alive against necrosis enemies. Toughest choice so far

[odd forge]

Using wisdel

[left egret]

Actually I can but she is kinda boring for me already. So I will look to her if other two would not work

[odd forge]

Okay 👍

[regal latch]

What kind of team can I assemble now?

[broken idol]

Elite ball knowledge

[daring escarp]

Lvl 70 pramanix disturbs me

[regal latch]

I liked the character, so I leveled it up

[daring escarp]

[woven plinth]

Not the best investment early game tbh

[odd forge]

I like your rooster

[odd forge]

But my OCD is not happy

[regal latch]

So, what can be made from what i have?

[odd forge]

You should do E1 your 6 stars ops

[regal latch]

I've been just pouring resin into character experience and money for a couple of weeks now

[odd forge]

E2 is ehhh it takes long period maybe it depends

[woven plinth]

Advance the main story untill you up you base and build it. Then you'll get a steady income of exp and LMD

[odd forge]

From my experience

It took me 2 ~ 3 weeks get E2 when I'm newbie

[odd forge]

Like this, no wasting resources and materials

[regal latch]

this is my final point of progress

[odd forge]

And it makes you faster progress

[regal latch]

I apologize if my English is bad, I use a translator.

[odd forge]

That's fine, my English is bad too

So, lets build your operators first

[regal latch]

I just don't understand which characters are normal and who can be leveled up.

[woven plinth]

SilverAsh can be invested. Surtr can be invested a bit. Cuora would be a nice defender but you don't have her so I guess... Beagle?

[odd forge]

Here is your task, do E1 them

Surtr dps
Exusia anti air dps
Silver dps
Silence medic

[regal latch]

I want to try to get it, is it good?

[odd forge]

Yeah

[woven plinth]

Don't use up pulls now. A limited banner is right around the corner

[regal latch]

I have nothing to spend

[woven plinth]

You can get a way better version of Paramix from that incoming banner

[odd forge]

Pramax alter

[woven plinth]

You can get a 5* op from your items

And promote a 4* to E2

And I think that's a 5* to E2 voucher?

[odd forge]

Hmmmm...

I was about to say use E2 to amiya

[woven plinth]

I'd pick either ptilo or specter and E2 that one

[odd forge]

Pick ptilopsis

She's very important

[naive holly]

you replace specter pretty soon

[regal latch]

k

[odd forge]

I need some friends

Demn I almost beating priestess

[uncut lark]

It's basically a DPS check map.

Depends on how fast you can kill both the smaller and bigger bosses while still dealing with all of the other enemies and the timer.

[odd forge]

I'm gonna wait for it on 14

[regal latch]

Okay guys, thanks for the tip and getting me started. I'll go to bed now, it's already midnight. Bye

[sharp jolt]

any tips on dealing with this stage? its killed so many of my runs i hate it

[fossil sphinx]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1158049223351222312/1435872026228428950/IMG_6136.gif

dont kill the cars

let the cars carry them to the right so you have time to kill them

[rustic eagle]

@odd forge how did you beat 15-15 with ling

[sharp jolt]

ill try that, thanks! (i have no ambushers on my squad rn so im pretty sure ill fail orz)

[rustic eagle]

The unblocksble guys keep running through

[odd forge]

No, I'm using trag

[rustic eagle]

i see

im using wis im so close

[rustic eagle]

I read on wiki if you have a unit with camouflage he does his dominion on the last deployed unit but he still targets Wis which is camouflaged if she has her summons iirc?

Maybe i misunderstood its rly late

I’ve gotten some decent attempts but I struggle keeping up after he nukes my stuff after 50%

He kills my blockers

[daring escarp]

He does dominion after 50%dmg dealt

And on dominion its increased dmg

And spawns dominion on highest dmg dealt ally

So basically you put your dps to bait dominion far away from your units

[rustic eagle]

I’ve done that but he still goes to kill my blockers right after

[daring escarp]

And then repeat while having good defenses against sarkaz

[plucky flint]

he insta kill ops inside dominion when he cast the aoe skill

[daring escarp]

.

[plucky flint]

camo and invi can't be target by dominion

must be the wis summons

exu2 cheeses that boss

just block him far away so that exu2 can't get hit by aoe of EB

[rustic eagle]

It’s kinda weird tho, on wiki it says it picks last deployed unit if the most damaging unit isn’t targetable

But I couldn’t get it redirected at least consistently

[rustic eagle]

Wouldn’t Exu get targeted by it tho

Or wait do you mean his attacks and not his dominion

[plucky flint]

exu gets hit by dominion but it doesn't matter

she'll evaporate EB

[rustic eagle]

She can tank it?

I thought it was an insta kill

[plucky flint]

1. Most dmg to him, not in fog
2. Last deployed, not in fog
3. Most dmg to him, in fog
4. Last deployed, in fog
5. Himself

this is the target priority of dominion

dominion skill is just arts and summon the smoke

the aoe is what insta kill ops if they got hit by it inside dominion

[rustic eagle]

I guess I’ll give it some more tries but idk why I can’t get the dominion off wisadel, I think he didn’t target her only once

[daring escarp]

Wait, boss has no stats, you can degen nuke his ass

[plucky flint]

boss is literally paper it's a year 3 boss

[rustic eagle]

I mean I can anything nuke his ass, but then he kills what nuked him, and then I cant stall second phase long enough before he walks up and disintegrate my blockers

[woven plinth]

The only thing about that boss is that units in dominion get 1-shot

[daring escarp]

He does 2 cycles around and phase is melee

There's no sarkaz in middle

[plucky flint]

oh btw, when transitioning from phase 1 to phase 2 he cast the aoe for full map range

[daring escarp]

[plucky flint]

that one kills all ops inside dominion

[rustic eagle]

Yea that’s the one killing my op

[plucky flint]

just redeploy

[daring escarp]

🗣️

[rustic eagle]

I don’t have the time lol

[daring escarp]

Retreat earlier and then boss kill

[plucky flint]

damage his phase 1 down to like 10%

[rustic eagle]

As I said he nukes my defenders before then so I leak

[plucky flint]

then tank him with cardi

then redeploy your setup outside dominion

[rustic eagle]

I don’t have cardi

[plucky flint]

ez profit

[daring escarp]

Wave 2 doesnt even spawn before phase2

[plucky flint]

just use whoever defender u have

[rustic eagle]

I can try leaving him low tho

Wis won’t work tho

[plucky flint]

he's tickling you on phase 1

[rustic eagle]

I guess I’ll go to exu?

[rustic eagle]

They’re not tickles for me😭

[daring escarp]

Plz just degen and nuke the boss

[plucky flint]

or retreat wis after you deal much dmg

[rustic eagle]

My ops also can’t rly deal with the crossbow ursus guys

[plucky flint]

degen will insta kill phase 1

[rustic eagle]

I can retreat her in the middle of skill ig

[plucky flint]

he might need to have time to redeploy

well fair enough

[daring escarp]

Extra option is using hoshialt and stall the boss

[rustic eagle]

maybe i can try with just a fast redeploy

since his defenses are ass

i texalt him multiple times

[plucky flint]

just bring more bodies

oh yea texalt s2

[daring escarp]

Oh no not the s2

[plucky flint]

let melantha eat smoke at phase 1

then burst tf out of him doesn't matter if he manage to get away, let him rotate

[fossil sphinx]

leizi2 sits on him and explodes him very quickly too its worth trying

in fact she solos the entire stage

[plucky flint]

tbf a lot of ops solo the stage

powercreep is ril

[azure roost]

i solo u

[hexed zodiac]

Isn’t this the stage you can solo with texalt?

[exotic grove]

what skill does she use here?

[fossil sphinx]

s1

[exotic grove]

how do you get her to not leak the archer imperial striker guys

[fossil sphinx]

press the button

[exotic grove]

she can't kill them

[fossil sphinx]

possibly underleveled

[exotic grove]

she's lv60 m9 mod1

stuck here

[fringe solstice]

wrong spot

[exotic grove]

if I put her here she gets mogged by the boss

[fossil sphinx]

she solos it there

[exotic grove]

how do you stop him from getting a second hit on her?

[fossil sphinx]

press button

twice in a row

should dodge the hit

[exotic grove]

lmao how does that work

spaghetti code

[fossil sphinx]

no you just kill him before he can get it off i think

[exotic grove]

gotchaa
thanks

[fossil sphinx]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1m3GnzUEJb/

🔥

[exotic grove]

thanks but I'm not opening bilibili on my phone

[fossil sphinx]

honestly good call

[river atlas]

Bilibili’s mobile site is pure cancer

[hexed zodiac]

https://youtu.be/4G1xEKq3-m0?si=bMDjHLTvTip7rxm-

@exotic grove

Lezi solo

[exotic grove]

yea I did it myself
thanks tho

now I can autodeploy

it just requires really tight timing on skill activations
and hitting him the instant he walks out of the smoke

[hexed zodiac]

I’m 99% sure I’ve seen a texalt solo clear of this a long time ago

[foggy grove]

because she does solo

[foggy grove]

also wis solo

[plucky flint]

wis solo needs the atk pot

[azure roost]

@plucky flint

[plucky flint]

then do lineup exchange so they can experience the glory of ursus

[naive holly]

someone please help me with 15-20 this stage will be the end of me 😭

i brought in plume to mark boss

and beat it up

[hidden axle]

[naive holly]

it didnt work

[pearl compass]

May I lend my Gladiia, so you can forget about right side existence?

[hidden axle]

Time to write another rant of how ppl having rosters 2x more stacked than me are struggling

Akshually

15-20 is a farming stage

[pearl compass]

He struggles to even clear that.

[naive holly]

is there no way i clear this using my team

😭

[hidden axle]

.

[pearl compass]

It has a way.

Will you git gud for that?

[hidden axle]

I usef sakiko to clear right lane, added asca for insurance

[naive holly]

bro just help me instead of saying that

[hidden axle]

Gud thing I saif sakiko and not saki

[naive holly]

yes ?

[pearl compass]

Well, concentrate the damage on right side too and make orbs turns into Avengers.

By dealing 4 hits with Phys.

[naive holly]

thats what i am doing though

i placed saki there

[plucky flint]

can't naran s3 solo that right side?

[pearl compass]

Ascalon should kill the trash on bottom lane.

Ray and Lemon for PRTS.