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thick sphinx
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I'm talking about adverse it self, and this same strat works for simulation as well

elder flume
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E1 60 Cuora gets this far if you sniper bait till skill use RedOmegaLul

thick sphinx
hidden axle
marble parrot
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@acoustic ridge ok so I got it down to

elder flume
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ye im too lazy to run lower and optimiz

lime lantern
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@wicked minnow just remembered about mudrock collosus, mantragodia shreds them Bnuuy

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then again it's not like their def is high so exu2/wisadel would do the same thing but hey it's pretty cool

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now just give them like 10,000 def

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and its competitive

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🔥

wicked minnow
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🗣️

lime lantern
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ill test against the hexed ones when i see them

wicked minnow
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damn they kinda rolled them SoraWow

lime lantern
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yeh

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only 4 targets

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mostly 3

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the propa ganda must be spread

dark violet
lime lantern
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as in mantra

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not sure tho

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and then again it is 2 ops..

twin sedge
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yall i need help for H14-4

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it's pretty difficult

daring escarp
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The notes around her are dmg reduction

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So if you dont break it she has 90% dmg reduction

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On phase 2 it clocks opposite side so you need there second too

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You have to have 2 caster/sniper in cages and walls around them

glass monolith
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There is H14-4 Tragodia solo and it is funniest shit ever for that map at least

full terrace
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Holy hell why are there so many dps check stages near the end

twin sedge
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omfg

daring escarp
twin sedge
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maybe i was just blind tbh

daring escarp
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Degen + warf does 90% of yurodstvo hp

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Havent tested that yet tho

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Wisadel does most of yurodstvo hp

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Sakiko can burst if enough visibility

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16-17 is afkable

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16-12 stall check

elder flume
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i have permastun Chen in the making for 16-12

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just annoying i need to E2 Mon3tr along

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havent checked if Alanna double stacks

lime lantern
sly drift
mighty pagoda
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he has 40k hp, not that hard to kill him

sly drift
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It's about bypassing whatever the heck Manfred nonsense on H10-3

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This stage put pretty much everyone in pain back on release day.

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And today he died in one second by one skill

foggy grove
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manfred has never been the issue on that map

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the minion and the dot does more

glass monolith
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Well ManNotYourFriend having 90% DR unless he cannon himself isn't H10-3 exclusive, H10-3 buff is making all enemies dot around them while he is here

foggy grove
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manfred stick is dodge,no dr

sly drift
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DR is Dodge rate

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Minus played you

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But that still translate to "Manfred is the problem"
The way it played is you need to time the cannon while preparing for burst and defending two separate lane.

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Which every single enemy has that nonsense dot and necrosis.

azure roost
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god i still remember my clear

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on h10-3

glass monolith
azure roost
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fartooth gaming

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such a nostalgic stage

glass monolith
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Good old time of throwing shit on no sanity on loss till first win

azure roost
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now current ops

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slaughter man

sly drift
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I haven't tried it but Mantra also slap Damazti out of existence, no?

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I mean Degen already did it RedOmegaLul
but Mantra do it in literally like one or two seconds..
It just absurd

glass monolith
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I slapped him with pre Ulp AH and never again i will be near that shit

hidden axle
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I mean her gimmick would spawn her clone so she wont die in few secs

glass monolith
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But how about cursed 8 second nuke window SoraWow

south bone
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Ebenholz SoraWow

glass monolith
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When Damatzi does like 8 second animation for global aoe bullshit with drones it can't do 4th close thing. Bunch of records for H12 use that

azure roost
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timing on daz goop too

sly drift
daring escarp
daring escarp
mighty pagoda
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tank the cannon and kill cars that make mobs apply necrosis

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even max level cuora can tank itRedOmegaLul

odd forge
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Yehey it took me 3 tries to clear it yipeeee

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I didn't know that bear is just hate to tap

odd forge
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Pepe is good and frostleaf

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Amiya s2

twin sedge
daring escarp
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Raidian s1 during skill works as a free option

odd forge
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I don't like using meta, I got bored

daring escarp
odd forge
twin sedge
odd forge
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Adverse ofc

twin sedge
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lemme test if my strategy works on adverse aswell rq

daring escarp
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Adverse lvl2

odd forge
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Too bad, I don't build much 5 stars below ops

daring escarp
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Audacity to use more than 10 ops

daring escarp
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I raised them for IS

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Its just funny

mighty pagoda
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building all those chars is probably cheaper than 1 e2 6* RedOmegaLul

daring escarp
odd forge
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If 5* and 4* Still works for me even low invest in IS

odd forge
twin sedge
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i think doing it with ejyafjalla alter should bare similar results

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you can just put down wisadel too if that should be the case

mighty pagoda
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nice dodge

azure roost
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@wicked minnow RedOmegaLul

daring escarp
glass monolith
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I need to do level 2 of each stage still... DIE

azure roost
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kek

twin sedge
daring escarp
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Well maybe only 16-16 and 16-7 are problematic

sacred edge
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how to do 10-7

mighty pagoda
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ambushers

sacred edge
sacred edge
mighty pagoda
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put ascalon on bottom lane, ez

sacred edge
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she has no masteries

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is that fine ?

twin sedge
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yeah

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you should level your saria more

mighty pagoda
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just use some more dps

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1 dps is enough on top

glass monolith
azure roost
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ehat 16-7 again

glass monolith
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i think it is that one order dude and how i hate that one artillery in corner (also top left leaked)

limpid ore
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top left just let the miners standby with healer covering them

young cairn
sacred edge
sacred edge
twin sedge
sacred edge
mighty pagoda
sacred edge
mighty pagoda
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dont let artillery hit them

limpid ore
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bring someone with taunt

twin sedge
sacred edge
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ill e2 her next

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there is a long time till shu

sacred edge
mighty pagoda
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artillery will focus npc when buff guy is on the field

limpid ore
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kill the commander

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death

sacred edge
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i should first bait the cannon by a fast redep no ?

dense hawk
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I need help for this thing called yurodstov.
How are you supposed to fight it?

sacred edge
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like canta or smth

elder flume
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the same way you fight Faust

mighty pagoda
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just let if focus chars below where you have a healer

dense hawk
sacred edge
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i fucked up for a sec but i think i have a general idea

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i was uh afk

mighty pagoda
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just heal in time

elder flume
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bait it

dense hawk
mighty pagoda
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dont bait with someone who gets oneshoted obviously RedOmegaLul

limpid ore
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it's force retreat

elder flume
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nham SkadiDaijoubu

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everyone gets oneshot

limpid ore
mighty pagoda
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only on second hit

elder flume
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ideally you only fart 1 spot

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which is the baiter repeated spot

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same as how you fight 5-10 Faust

mighty pagoda
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thats an option too

dense hawk
mighty pagoda
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well yes i know how boss works

dense hawk
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Buddy

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Three seconds ago you didn’t understand that it force retreated and told me to just heal

mighty pagoda
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because there was someone with different mission

sacred edge
daring escarp
sacred edge
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i was close

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just fucked up a bit

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ill try this again later

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gotta go now

daring escarp
mighty pagoda
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tequila can tank it BlitzSmile

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you do need to activate the skill

limpid ore
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roberta shield

daring escarp
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Roberta carries

wise pond
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at last i can auto deploy this stage and up my logos to e2 BreezeHappy

indigo helm
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People complaining about the bear is so funny when 16-15 is fucking Hitler reincarnated

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I LOVE global range aoes +invisibility

mighty pagoda
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they just use ines, ez win

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cant just ines the bear

indigo helm
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No I'm through the bear already

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16-15 is just stupidly complicated

mighty pagoda
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its realy not that complicated with ines/shu

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also 16-16 is harder than 15

vivid rain
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Is that the hold out stage?

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cant you just like

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wait out the timer with the dialog lol

mighty pagoda
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nah its 17

weak gazelle
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hmmm
good battle, in fact not much of a hassleKaltSip

vivid rain
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oh 16-16 is the boss stage

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Wait 16-15 is the nothing burger stage

sly drift
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16-15 is fking shit stage

vivid rain
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you can just bring a mlynar and let the cannons piss themselves

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from his sheer aura

mighty pagoda
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tequila works too

weak gazelle
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yes its not
well, stuck for 1 hours but its more about adapting to a strat needed

odd forge
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I like myself 16-15

vivid rain
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idk man i just jump everyone with yalter so

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well that was the first clear

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for my simulation clear i brought hoshi s1 + mlynar + teq + bubble

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Aura monsters squad

mighty pagoda
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aura monster in question RedOmegaLul

weak gazelle
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lol
i didnt play simulation part yet
it took more effort if want to play some niche shit

vivid rain
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Wait i just remember that penance exists

sacred edge
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did it

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yayge

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thanks @mighty pagoda

mighty pagoda
plucky flint
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I like the mechanics this time, it's just the final boss kinda sucks ReedBean

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finally useful civ SkadiDaijoubu

median shard
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Dang the feeling after losing multiple times on IS, then when suddenly got lucky was like winning a gamba RedOmegaLul

wise pond
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still quite a way to unlock this module of him SilenceSleepy

plucky flint
wise pond
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got it, tho there mostly the gacha get part i assume DocSmile

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so even more salty AmiyaSad

elder flume
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ursus sniper has taunt calc IstinaThink

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but ignores last deploy

daring escarp
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Also im wondering how does beanstalk breaks bear's pathing

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Sometimes he goes in the wall

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Right before the beanstalk

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And sometimes just ignores beanstalk when he shouldn't aggro right onto the decel binder in the back

elder flume
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uh basically the targeting for this chap is bad

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the checkpoint creation seems random

river atlas
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The bear in specific has some uhh

elder flume
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either enough to hit hated op or too short and bear loses aggro

limpid ore
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they have like 3 different sniper units

odd forge
river atlas
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Interesting properties

plucky flint
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phase 1 bear after the rage mode should run right?

elder flume
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depends

plucky flint
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but sometimes it still go to my ops even when downed ReedBean

elder flume
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it has to hit its hated checkpoint first

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then it can leave

plucky flint
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oh so that's why

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stupid bear then RedOmegaLul

sinful tangle
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this squad fine for 16-16 or some changes needed?

elder flume
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i do wonder if Bili has alr made discussion about it

plucky flint
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ye that squad is good

river atlas
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What is mtn doing

plucky flint
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ngl, boss kinda underwhelming

limpid ore
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technically sakiko, haruka, hoshi2, and ines are enough

river atlas
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What is the e0 blaze doing Bnuuy

sinful tangle
limpid ore
river atlas
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Bring a fast redeploy maybe then

plucky flint
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yes I brute force it but I didn't even know the boss' mechanics through the end of stage ReedBean

sinful tangle
limpid ore
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you should have enough DP to deploy everyone important on phase 2

sinful tangle
elder flume
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you mostly want healing on right side at start of phase 2

plucky flint
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phase 2 is force retreat right? so dp recovered?

elder flume
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or else miners die

limpid ore
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haruka s2

sinful tangle
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dont have enough time to place healers

elder flume
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you kina have to make time

plucky flint
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does haruka even work for miners?

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thought it's just medic

limpid ore
sinful tangle
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would mon3tr s2 right side and haruka left work?

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haruka s3

plucky flint
limpid ore
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everyone dies because haruka isnt healing during off-skill

elder flume
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as long as you have miners alive + can bait dominion

limpid ore
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and you get nuked by butterflies

sinful tangle
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hoshi2 tanks butterflies till i get the healing going

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i just place sakiko right and she get insta-deleted

elder flume
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bait dominion

limpid ore
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does yurodtsvo still use dominion phase2?

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it's mostly the butterflies that kill your ops

elder flume
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oh does it not

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guess its safe then hm

plucky flint
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I thought it's a typo but fuck is that the boss name RedOmegaLul

limpid ore
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the CN name simply means "The Foolish"

plucky flint
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sounds better to me SkadiDaijoubu

sinful tangle
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his attacks deal damage multiple times tho

river atlas
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Almost all of the atks in phase 2 are aoe

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Most of it is a spacing check

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the mechs and the boss and the butterflies

sinful tangle
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so replacing wisadel with ines is fine

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s2 for her?

limpid ore
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the normal attack change to 5 hits but slower and priorities different target, so deploying more bait is better

river atlas
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The boss takes a long circuit around the top side of the map and then immediately gets hit with your team’s burst when they approach from the bottom left for most ppl i’d expect

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The entire time its doing a lap around the map the main thing its doing is spawning butterflies

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and watching the mechs shoot missiles at u

daring escarp
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Even for simulation lvl2

sinful tangle
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saki s2,wis s3,mon3tr s2 and hoshi s3?

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idek at this point,it's always the second phase that destroys my team

daring escarp
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Why tf you downgrading saki to s2

daring escarp
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And hoshi rdp time after you nuked down yurodstvo on right top pathing

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Is enough to place her before the robots come close to blue box so you just s3 and done

sinful tangle
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just did it lol thanks everyone

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almost messed up but managed to deploy wis in time

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16-17 looks like shit too,do I just wait the timer out?

weak gazelle
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dominion again huh :icant:
guess i have to bring the big gun for p1 and somehow manage fogs better

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seem like a lot of effort to beat this shit :icant:

river atlas
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just.. put down gravel?

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They give u so many free tiles for dominion

austere skiff
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any tips for uh

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16-16

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yurodstvo's fucking me over with the instakill gimmick

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and phase 2 is a pain

river atlas
austere skiff
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miners spawn in > they perish instantly > i cant place anyone

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what abt phase 2

daring escarp
river atlas
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8

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funny stage

sinful tangle
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like another route or something

daring escarp
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Its just a glitch

river atlas
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its a bug

river atlas
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the mission obj is survive 8 min, but the timer starts when u press start and talking is a free action

tight osprey
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Chat how do you beat 16-12?

daring escarp
river atlas
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have u tried putting a defender down KaltSip

tight osprey
modern mural
daring escarp
tight osprey
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Hoshi alt s2 s3 kinda useless here

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I saw mr nothing perma stun the bear

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Is that true?

tender orbit
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With Exu2 s2

tight osprey
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Bruh

daring escarp
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After not attacking for 3 seconds, increase the ATK of the next attack to 175% and Stun the target for 5 seconds

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Eith module

tight osprey
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My mr nothing is lv 1

river atlas
limpid ore
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lets add the bear inflicts +100% dmg taken to its target

tight osprey
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Ah

limpid ore
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and make it attacks twice with buffed aspd

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make it attacks thrice at phase 2 and turns it into ability so it bypass paralyze and frigten

tender orbit
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Enter 9-5 worker

river atlas
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1 pt of def missing = x4 the dmg taken Amiyaya

tight osprey
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So hoshi alt is useless here?

limpid ore
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lets also buff its ATK on adverse

daring escarp
tight osprey
limpid ore
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also make it able to ignore invisible and camouflage just because

daring escarp
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And then silence the bear

river atlas
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u don't need to redeploy

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hoshi can tank the rock throws, u just toss lappland or jaye s1 down behind the bear when it approachs hoshi

tight osprey
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Hm ok

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My lapp is still e1 🙁

river atlas
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what pot

daring escarp
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And works to silence entirely

tight osprey
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I mean I can e2 lapp

river atlas
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i wouldn't

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not really worth it

tight osprey
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Bruh

austere skiff
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dude

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how the fuck do i deal with

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yurodstvo phase 2

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i try to place smth on the right side

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she just obliterates it

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then the wraiths leak

river atlas
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well who are you placing and where

austere skiff
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hoshi2 left haruka middle sakiko right

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if i place sakiko right she can kill yurodstvo early

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one s3 kills her

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the problem is like

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sakiko keeps on dying

river atlas
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i wonder why

tight osprey
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Enough for the bear?

plucky flint
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overkill yah

river atlas
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Maybe the fact that sakiko is tanking a 5 hit barrage probably isnt helping

river atlas
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the boss isn't very tanky, it just has a lot of DR while angry

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hoshi1 can solo it in a few minutes of being afk once jaye silences the rock throw, if u feel like it

austere skiff
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do i swap sakiko and hoshi2's positions

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i managed to get sakiko to survive one time

river atlas
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u read the second half of the atk's description and plan accordingly

austere skiff
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hmm

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wait i can just

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let yurodstvo attack

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then place them down

river atlas
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for example.. that gravel or choice of fast redeploy u were using to tank the dominion in phase 1

plucky flint
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that's one way to do it

austere skiff
tight osprey
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Wth

austere skiff
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why does every single enemy

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have to be

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a fucking wraith

tight osprey
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The bear turned into a sandbag after I slienced it

river atlas
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yeah

tight osprey
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No way this is easy

river atlas
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it is in fact that easy

plucky flint
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bear overhyped SkadiDaijoubu

limpid ore
daring escarp
austere skiff
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how would

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mon3 help

elder flume
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heals miners

austere skiff
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o wait ya

glass monolith
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Can't heal corpse HellaKek

daring escarp
austere skiff
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ok yeah mon3 start worked

sonic gazelle
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For mon3 you would use her s3?

elder flume
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depends

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usually S2/S3

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then theres afk S1

austere skiff
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s3 if you need true dmg

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else s2

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s1 does not exist

sonic gazelle
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Well in this case I'm trying to beat the bear as well with the mon3 Strat if possible

hidden axle
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What do you have

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And she uses s2 for that p sure

sonic gazelle
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I have this but honestly don't got a clue what to do its probably a bit overkill but i'm lost.

elder flume
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borrow Hoshi

river atlas
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none of the dmg dealers matter

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maybe bring 1 to speed up the fight

sonic gazelle
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Her s2 right?

elder flume
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S1 S2 works

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Haruka should be enough to keep Hoshi alive

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worst case scenario theres Trag S3 ig

river atlas
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ines s2, a defense defender, a healer, and a jaye s1

sonic gazelle
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It worked thank you very much

lapis hornet
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np

hallow magnet
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for 16-12, am I just meant to make the boss flee?

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or put it between 2 ranged units or smthn?

undone herald
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keep it baited so it doesnt escape, waiting out its skill timer. once that runs out it will slowly limp off the map, use that time to set up for tanking it in phase 2

hallow magnet
undone herald
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yeah. decel binders and tacticians are good picks for this

scarlet fulcrum
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Ines s3 very good for stall bear lol

weak gazelle
daring escarp
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I forgot youre casternights

elder flume
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dementia moment

daring escarp
weak gazelle
daring escarp
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Eyja helidrop

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Real

weak gazelle
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no worries
at least this map give me a reason to actually being a strategist

undone herald
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16-16 is a bit frustrating because phase 2 might as well be an entire second stage that you have to wait 5 minutes between attempts of

daring escarp
exotic grove
daring escarp
exotic grove
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yeah u gotta time it correctly tho or one or two will slip past where his range is 1 tile shorter

scarlet fulcrum
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Is this h8-4?

exotic grove
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yea

scarlet fulcrum
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Makes sense

daring escarp
scarlet fulcrum
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I cant load vid so

glass monolith
daring escarp
scarlet fulcrum
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Slower than regular mobs, thats for sure

elder flume
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99% slow moment

daring escarp
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Also does crownslayer work for the bear?

exotic grove
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wdym by work?

daring escarp
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To stall

exotic grove
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let me try BlitzSmile

scarlet fulcrum
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No stun immune so

elder flume
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ye

scarlet fulcrum
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even knight tech work on it

exotic grove
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how many other ops do u need to bring to cover her cycle

elder flume
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cheap opener

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uh just 1 ?

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CS Eun is perma stun

exotic grove
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wow zumama usecase SoraWow

elder flume
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if not enough dp for start then Ines S3 can stall a lot ig

scarlet fulcrum
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Yea very funny

daring escarp
weak gazelle
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oh yeah boss spawn is time gated or kill gated?

daring escarp
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It spawns after time

glass monolith
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Uh.... fuck 16-7

daring escarp
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True

weak gazelle
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really?
if that so guess i will make use of mostima

glass monolith
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On my OG clear all civilians some fucking how survived and killed shield guards.
On my pain+2 attempt those shits die before Thomas the punch bot arrive

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Also i hate entire Order gimmick having prioritiy over my taunt to reflect artillery to death strat HellaKek

river atlas
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?

glass monolith
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I have molotov artillery die to Vendela S2. But when commander goes in all artillery ignores my taunt bullshit and starts bombarding civilians on some lovecraftian logic which i am too lazy to look up on CN wiki

elder flume
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as how it is to every special targeting

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ignores taunt

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prio trait

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until HG saw Bison main niche didnt work in CB and had to revert CB enemies and only them

eager turtle
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16-16 second phase, boss kills the miner than the mobs just go through...

exotic grove
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surely u can put someone down before the miner gets wiped off the face of terra

eager turtle
river atlas
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put more people down

daring escarp
river atlas
daring escarp
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I wonder if no hit bear is possible with cs and eun

elder flume
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Exu2 Nothing is alr no hit

eager turtle
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this is my team on second phase

elder flume
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thats a lot of vg

daring escarp
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I thought bear range isn't enough

scarlet fulcrum
daring escarp
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Ye just bait dominion

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Second flag isn't needed

elder flume
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well if u spawncamp then theres no range

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Nothing just beats up bear both phase

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cant even escape until proc invuln

eager turtle
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ok, almost did it now, but the ground getting dark when the miners are away is a pain

prisma rover
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do I pick warf or ptilo as my second medic? (1st is silence)

scarlet fulcrum
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Ptilo, u want multi target medic

uncut lark
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I need help on 16-12. Freaking bear.

eager turtle
prisma rover
scarlet fulcrum
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Yea, more versatile with the option

uncut lark
#

Regular Hoshi or Hoshi Alter? Because my Hoshi Alter went down after like, 6 hits from that beast.

daring escarp
uncut lark
#

Trying to clear without borrowing so...

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This is what I currently have. Not the best but eh.

daring escarp
scarlet fulcrum
glass monolith
#

Enough of simulation lvl 2 for today HellaKek

daring escarp
#

Congrats

glass monolith
#

What do you mean finally? HellaKek

prisma rover
glass monolith
#

oh right i complained 3 hours ago

daring escarp
#

Its just my brain percepting the time

scarlet fulcrum
glass monolith
#

Civilian healing scaling of medic's ATK stat is so troll medic check CeobeConfused

river atlas
elder flume
#

Using an arts tank to tank not arts

glass monolith
elder flume
#

Mon3tr Trag on S1 should be enough to stall bear for a bit hm

river atlas
#

or well i guess there's technically hoshi alt s1 but have fun surviving 15 hits with hoshi alt first

daring escarp
#

Oh wait haruka s3 usage?

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Lol

scarlet fulcrum
river atlas
daring escarp
glass monolith
#

Good old starting stage before reading risks HellaKek

daring escarp
#

Y4eeee

eager turtle
#

when the boss is coming from the right he's sending a fly, and the ground its fogged

daring escarp
#

And then boom the boss

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Easy

glass monolith
#

2 miners spawn, all your shit refresh for deploy, tank for right miner, AND DONT BE ME WHO SEND LEFT MINER AND DIDNT BLOCK DRONES

exotic grove
#

struggling with 16-16
should I switch to yurodstvo hp and aspd?

daring escarp
eager turtle
#

yay, thanks for the patience guys, this fog mechanic its annoying

dense island
#

does anyone know how to get to these stages? been losing my mind trying to locate them 😭

glass monolith
#

Week 2 of chapter release

dense island
#

i see 😭

glass monolith
#

Also finish stages on Adverse and do enough Strategic Simulation to score 4/6/10/14

torpid prawn
#

These stages are getting harder and harder for low level-random knights.
Had to use 4 high level units (trust slot loss) (wisadel, gummi, ines, utage) + timing npc blocked shieldguards so wisadel doesnt ignore the unblockable enemies too early

eager turtle
#

did you guys killed everything on 16-17?

daring escarp
scarlet fulcrum
glass monolith
#

Drones survived by cheating timed stage end HellaKek

scarlet fulcrum
#

Not with undulation slop

vague summit
#

My haruka and Mon3tr can't reach the Mlynar 😢

signal vector
vague summit
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M8 6 is suffering

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At least 1 shield guard keeps dying

signal vector
#

use someone to hold the other lanes, use zuo le to kill the possesed guys

signal vector
#

this should help u with M8-6 lol

vague summit
#

Dawg

torpid prawn
#

2nd half of ch16 is really shutting down all dps operators through the new slugs.

scarlet fulcrum
#

If u failed to read

regal frost
#

can't you just use the miners

signal vector
scarlet fulcrum
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Exialt cheese them i believe, didn't use her whole chapter

torpid prawn
#

The miners take a while to reach the slugs (they start on opposite sides of the map) and you have to stall them with defenders + healers just to start the map

regal frost
#

degen S3 doesn't take damage from them I think

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yato s3 too

exotic grove
#

apple pie just heals back the dmg

torpid prawn
#

Tried to put a maxed out wisadel. Barely managed to 1v1 a single slug

exotic grove
#

why are u using wis anyway

torpid prawn
#

Someone had to test it.

exotic grove
#

and if you want her to kill slugs just let her pet rocks do it

lime lantern
#

damage goes peepeepooopoo if no multiple targets but wow that's alot of multi target dmg Bnuuy

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150kHP x2 gone in 15 seconds

scarlet fulcrum
#

Dude said All dps ops, in truth its wis brainded again

lime lantern
scarlet fulcrum
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Said to that guy not me

lime lantern
#

or like idk

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kaltstit

crisp bolt
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People learning reflect damage for the first time

lime lantern
#

fuck it

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amiyi

crisp bolt
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Watch me unsourced damage them :clueless:

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Step on dororat lego

sweet path
#

does anyone know how to do 16-16 while i am 🙁 I mean it's a bit too challenging to replay with every possible char, and thank god for Rebuilding mandate cause i've tested a hell of chars

daring escarp
daring escarp
exotic grove
#

is it wis saki exialt healer?

daring escarp
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Wis, saki, mon3tr and hoshi2

exotic grove
#

ah hoshialt

daring escarp
#

I mean its burst option and survives the nukes at second phase left side

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Exu2 can also work ig

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Dph is enough to beat them

exotic grove
#

yeah I was struggling with the mech aerial bombardment

lime lantern
#

is 16-16 the timer stage

daring escarp
#

16-16 is yurodstvo

lime lantern
#

ah

sweet path
daring escarp
#

I'm pretty sure its possible with 3-4☆ and wis borrow

crisp bolt
#

Ec*o mentioned

scarlet fulcrum
#

Dude done the Ritual

crisp bolt
#

Summoning ritual

hidden axle
#

Smh d5 and d7 feel like different worlds

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My noobass fumbled easy wins (along with forgetting enemy mechanics and bad rng that fucked me up but thats beside the point) while trying for ed2 but damn on d5 its a joke

fringe solstice
scarlet fulcrum
#

U dont have to do all simulation, for fresh acc 24 points all u need to unlock H stages

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I cant load any vid so, cant explain whats goin on there

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I can guess its just dominion bait routine

torpid prawn
#

Turns out even tragodia is useless because if you try to one shot the slugs with the cat tragodia instantly dies

sweet path
#

yep i just found out that there are some videos

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and i just did this tact

hidden axle
#

Just give your trag a medic man

sweet path
#

i wasted 3 days on previous 15 lvl

hidden axle
#

Wait do camo ops take reflect dmg

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DocSmile cuz heavyrain abuse would be funny

regal frost
#

I'll test
nvm

exotic grove
#

how is the 4op clear for 16-16 lv2 done? do I need hoshi alt m3 or somethin

exotic grove
hidden axle
exotic grove
#

@fringe solstice don't u 🥀 me

hidden axle
#

Welp thats a lot of slugs

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Have you tried catbombing in batches

fringe solstice
hidden axle
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They roam there for a while iirc

fringe solstice
#

I just watched a hoshi2, wis, fang2 clear LappDumb

hidden axle
#

16-16?

hidden axle
#

Damn LappDumb

fringe solstice
#

fang is just to get enough dp for hoshi2

torpid prawn
#

They go together like 3 at a time. Even that is a lot to handle especially since they take multiple instances of damage

exotic grove
hidden axle
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Smg why not max pot saki

exotic grove
#

I tried but got a useless femboy twink caster instead

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monmon stole my second attempt

hidden axle
exotic grove
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I was like 215 pulls in and didn't want to spend more tbh

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$100 for -1dp kinda wtf

hidden axle
#

Ccb guard token farm ut us

exotic grove
#

already bought both tokens from cc and red cert shop

hidden axle
#

Or uh just borrow degenbrecher

fringe solstice
#

I haven't seen a lot yet

exotic grove
#

I haven't seen anything at all someone just said 4op clear with those 4 has been done

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but based on the thumbnail of the bilibili vid u posted apparently u don't even need the rest

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can't watch it because bilibili mobile site is cancer

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anyway seems like hoshi is core so probably not doable without her higher level and masteried up at least
gonna try with borrowed hoshi

fringe solstice
#

with m1

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The skill timing seems tight but it kills phase 2 in 1 cycle

astral cosmos
#

if you need monmon lmk

fringe solstice
#

if you have ulpi the timing isn't as tight and you don't need mon3tr s2. The 3ops (saki, mon, ulpi) used mon s1 LappDumb

astral cosmos
#

damn monmon s1 usage

regal frost
vague summit
#

Without borrows no

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Obviously I could Always wisadel tragodia surtr hoshi alter from someone else, but I'm trying to clear all the stages with my own ops

daring escarp
foggy grove
#

if not going for secret ending just unga

gusty depot
foggy grove
torpid prawn
# hidden axle Or uh just borrow degenbrecher

In the end i used lv1 medic + exu alter lv7s2 + borrowed arturia s3 + tanky defender.
And even then it barely made the cut in adverse +2 cuz arturia s3m3 barely recharged in time

hollow turtle
#

whats the strat for 16-15?

daring escarp
hollow turtle
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okay so far thats what im doing lol

hollow turtle
daring escarp
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Since haruka s3 is enough to charge the skill

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And then the bear melts

hollow turtle
hollow turtle
daring escarp
daring escarp
#

Yes

hollow turtle
#

SoraWow hoh

daring escarp
#

And 60% sanctuary makes almost anyone invincible

hollow turtle
#

this is good right? 7-7

daring escarp
hollow turtle
#

I have haruka's s3m3, yet I never use it 🥹 I need to use it more..

daring escarp
hollow turtle
#

hmm.. I should've replaced hoshi2 with vulpis after the two first mortars were gone

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some of those spies got in the right box

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but other than that im good

daring escarp
#

Saki also works for that

hollow turtle
#

i dont have vision on that right tho thats the problem

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might use ines instead maybe

daring escarp
frigid frigate
#

is my strat a brute force in 10-7

hollow turtle
#

the physicalsss

fresh gazelle
#

feeling like the only way to get level 2 simulation on 16-12 is with the sniper/caster ban, and keeping defenders and medics available

sinful tangle
#

depends on your roster,but yeah I also think that one's easier

daring escarp
#

Wrong link

fresh gazelle
#

after all

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phase 1 can still be cleared by using trapmasters and geeks

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and summoners

hollow turtle
#

does ines even reveal the red mist for allies to hit enemies

fresh gazelle
#

and tacticians...

fresh gazelle
#

but it doesn't remove the mist

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like, it removes invisibility

hollow turtle
#

as long as they reveal enemies in the mist

fresh gazelle
#

yep

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so does any other invis reveal, like silverash

sinful tangle
daring escarp
#

Red s2 anti rock tech

fresh gazelle
#

huh.

dorothy moment, I guess

daring escarp
#

Purestream permablock tech

fresh gazelle
#

I just brought dorothy because she was my only leveled trapmaster

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so she's like a pseudo-AA

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but then I realized

slow traps :3

daring escarp
#

Doro s2 + trag s2 is enough until invulnerability phase for bear

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And then just stun/silence the bear

fresh gazelle
#

I didn't even consider silence

hollow turtle
#

wow 16-15 was sorta tough, but im him

fresh gazelle
#

It’s just a hoederer moment

uncut lark
#

That freaking red-head female dog.

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Why does she do so much damage??

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I'm having trouble on phase 1 of the fight.

somber falcon
#

What dog are you talking about

uncut lark
#

This female dog.

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In case you are not aware, another term for a female dog is a certain five letter curse word that starts with "b."

scarlet fulcrum
#

ok big dog u got me there

uncut lark
#

Big dog is six letters.

scarlet fulcrum
#

Im not talking about that

uncut lark
#

Also I freaking hate those guys that can't be blocked. They're the main reason I am struggling on phase 2.

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They keep slipping pass my units and there weren't any miners to block them.

scarlet fulcrum
#

U supposed to kill the slipper while on it, also not rushing left miners too early

noble pewter
uncut lark
#

These are all of the units I currently have E2.

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And are above 4 star.

river atlas
#

Mon3tr is extremely strong in 16-16

daring escarp
#

Did 8ops low rarity

river atlas
#

You want to deploy as many friendly units as possible to spread out the boss’s normal atk and to eat aggro for the miners, so a 0 deploy slot cost lure is really good

noble pewter
# uncut lark

for 1st phase use sakiko camp middle facing left, healed by m3nster above right, ulpi top lanehold Bnuuy send miner to scout boss, use sakiko s3 kill stuff
2nd phase ulpi camp blue bx left, saki right face top, m3nster btw them both, use skill kill stuff
u are done CardAyy

somber falcon
#

You have trag, vulpis, mountain, etc and you can't kill those guys? FartoothWeird
Even using gladiia s1 facing backwards should kill them

uncut lark
#

Can you give me the specific spaces to put them?

uncut lark
noble pewter
#

if not enuf dmg or heal just use ur other 8 slots Bnuuy maybe some helidrop etc bait atk do dmg

uncut lark
#

If you're referring to me, it's because the haze makes them invisible.

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And there is usually no miners around to light up the area for me.

noble pewter
river atlas
#

Kill them in the brief moments there are miners alive

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If you cant keep the miners alive

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Or just keep them alive so u have more vision, either or ChenShrug

uncut lark
#

What happens if that red head b-word uses the smoke attack thing?

river atlas
#

She doesnt use it in phase 2

uncut lark
#

That thing instant kills, if I recall correctly.

uncut lark
river atlas
#

Bait it?

uncut lark
#

Like, with a fast redeploy?

river atlas
#

Yes?

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Normal rules apply, enemy targets last deployed op

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Ergo put your last deployed op somewhere that wont screw you

uncut lark
#

Do I use Mon3tr S2 or S3 for this stage?

noble pewter
#

she will need to do 4 hit summon dom, so ulpi will tank 8 hit then m3ster another 8 hit

uncut lark
#

What's the red-head's attack range?

noble pewter
#

so pray ur sakiko kill boss b4 SpecterPray

upper epoch
#

hi how do you do that 16-12 stage with that bear ReedBean

noble pewter
#

pray fever happen n sakiko become godmode SpecterPray if m3ster die n no other healer

somber falcon
noble pewter
uncut lark
#

Does killing the red-head phase one auto-kill the other enemies during phase one?

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And seriously, S2 or S3 for Mon3tr for 16-16?

noble pewter
noble pewter
daring escarp
#

Hoshi1 borrow works perfectly fine

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If you replicate my guide exactly its better to use hoshi2 for faster killing

#

Lvl 90 is better yea

upper epoch
#

thanks

#

i passed it

meager merlin
#

Chat, I am trying to do the funny™ with mr.nothing and exu alt S2 and perma stun the cocaine bear, how do I go about setting it up?

How can I tell which effect Mr nothing got on his S2

limpid ore
#

BLUE: ASPD debuff
YELLOW: ASPD buff
PURPLE: Physical dodge and block buff

meager merlin
#

Ty

#

Also realized I might need his module, but I'm broke so guess I'll have to wait SkadiDaijoubu

sly drift
#

16-15 is fking nuts.

#

They push stage mechanic to the limit.

pearl compass
#

You ain't seen 16-16 yet.

sly drift
#

Can't wait for 16-16 and H stages to go beyond the fking ceiling

sly drift
young cairn
# pearl compass You ain't seen 16-16 yet.

Funny enough i managed to do all of ch16 adverse and simulation without borrow (other than 16-12 simulation cos my small roster got screwed by the bans), and then i couldn't do 16-17 adverse due to the anni dp mechanic

young cairn
#

No agent is pain

pearl compass
#

March 26th, 11:00 PM GTM.

young cairn
#

26th is thursday no?

pearl compass
#

When event released? On Thursday?

#

If yes, sorry, then Thursday-Friday indeed.

hidden axle
sterile delta
#

you can decide how you want to open this, the main requirement is being able to kill the three slugs that push row F, ines works for that but canta + sakiko should work as well
use whatever vanguards you have at your disposal
the goal is to get leizialt and mon3tr down asap, then burst when the scourger almost reaches the flayer around G6/G7
if your leizialt and mon3tr dont deal enough damage, supplement with sakiko here
executor is just to push the bomb and deal with the slugs in that lane
logos can go down whenever you have the dp to put him down
typically the deployment order goes vgs to hold row F, leizialt, executoralt, mon3tr, logos, if you need sakiko then try and figure out where to put her

wary onyx
#

alright

sterile delta
#

either way, see what works for you

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mon3tr is very helpful for sustaining your dps in the toplane and she clears out all of the blood amber with s3

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you could probably find your own strategy for dealing with the top lane using her

wary onyx
#

but hm

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im fine until the boss

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which killed both sakiko and degen

sterile delta
#

whats with the ines borrow ReedBean

wary onyx
#

more dp

sterile delta
#

lemme see if i can get a recording

wary onyx
#

sure

#

triple vanguard

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it had worked for me in hard stages

sly drift
#

You can't bait them if they are under Order Bnuuy

#

This is quite disaster

wary onyx
#

i hate you sm h13-4

sterile delta
#

oh hey you got it

#

well

#

almost

wary onyx
sterile delta
#

this recording is too long so uhhh

elder flume
sterile delta
#

you get a total of four bombs to use against him so im surprised his hp is still so high

wary onyx
wary onyx
#

if i can get my uh

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mantragodia combo to live, im good

#

but if they die im screwed

sterile delta
#

why are both bomb loading points destroyed if you used two bombs tho ReedBean

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you can prep a bomb before hand so you get two bombs per loading point to use against the boss

wary onyx
#

then next two bombs on the boss

#

is there a way to perma stall the blood guy

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with def or ulpi

elder flume
#

Hes unblockable no

pearl compass
wary onyx
#

what? I blocked him tho

#

he is not unblockable

elder flume
#

Hm
Mightve been different enemy then
Dont remember i blocked him or not

wary onyx
sterile delta
wary onyx
sterile delta
#

destroying the altars doesnt cause him to retaliate against the loading point

wary onyx
#

i need to kill altars to get to his phase 2 LappDumb

sterile delta
#

yea, kill the altar with the bomb

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then summon a new one

wary onyx
#

i see

sterile delta
#

you can also just stall him with trag s2 ChenShrug

young cairn
#

Later being after i get an agent

elder flume
#

So
Sneg

wary onyx
#

@sterile delta

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thanks

#

i used 4 bombs this time

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and kept my mantragodia duo alive

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and jumped him

young cairn
#

But no, not sneg

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Sneg doesn't generate enough dp

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Ines, if not then cantabile or surfer

past nacelle
exotic grove
#

plenty of strats
just relies on brain usage

wicked minnow
#

you have enough dps for boss easily

exotic grove
#

what's the x for

wicked minnow
#

the x is for the brain usage part

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he has enough power to unga bunga

exotic grove
#

well if you don't use brain you can still fail with their squad

wicked minnow
#

i disagree KaltSip

exotic grove
#

I would prove u wrong but I don't have half their roster
anyway they can just hoshi alt ulpeanits and yu burnslop it DocSmile

azure roost
past nacelle
#

the boss is fine but those destroyed my plans completely

#

i had to borrow ines to bind them

wicked minnow
#

phase 1, they only need a little bit of help. phase 2 for the bottom left you keep them stationed there. top right you get them moving so that it allows you to dps down the boss early

past nacelle
#

yeah phase 1 was the problem

elder flume
#

Why not use miners to stop unblockable SkadiDaijoubu

azure roost
#

@wicked minnow how far u rn on story?

exotic grove
#

I don't employ miners

azure roost
#

my alt is on 16-16

tranquil hollow
azure roost
#

wtf pro

tranquil hollow
#

Oh wait wrong

exotic grove
#

another projekt red victim
e2 leizi alt

tranquil hollow
#

Mb wrong ch

wicked minnow
tranquil hollow
exotic grove
#

give ascalon modx1

tranquil hollow
#

I was clearly not tricked

lime lantern
#

bro what the fuck man

#

are you kidding me

hidden axle
#

Smh ursus civilians, where are my ursus miners

lime lantern
#

these fuckers again

#

fuck you frauds

#

where are my miners at 😔

exotic grove
#

wow why do u want to see miners

lime lantern
#

why not

exotic grove
#

im never going to your private island
ursussy civvies better than hortus religious civvies at least

snow juniper