strategy

[hidden axle]

In general content yes matsukiri is better

[thick sphinx]

Ahh alr

So i should replace myrtle?

Do i need pots? Cuz I think the stage is over

[elder flume]

Idk how strong E1 Canta is

prob better to just drop Lemuen before Saria since right side still has leeway

[thick sphinx]

@sacred edge look

[thick sphinx]

Wait, he has e1 lemuen i think

[elder flume]

looks E2 to me

[sacred edge]

She's e2

[thick sphinx]

Ahh alr i miss read lol

[thick sphinx]

What about mee, idh hoshi or saria 😭

[hidden axle]

Did mountain not work

[glass monolith]

This stupid ATO minigame makes me think of "AI powered calculator" which has sleep(3000) attached to solve button

[thick sphinx]

I didn't try yet 😭😭😭😭

[hidden axle]

True so boring

[thick sphinx]

Imma go do it now lol

[glass monolith]

"Starting cash 200" turn 0 done talking

[elder flume]

ngl not having Snegurochka is annoying

all my agents are E2

[thick sphinx]

@hidden axle @sacred edge
MOUNTAIN WORKSSSSSSS

[sacred edge]

Ye

Hoshi alter is op asf

[thick sphinx]

Instead of spot use hosiguma and instead of my silver ash use saria

[thick sphinx]

U did it?

[sacred edge]

Ye

[thick sphinx]

Damn, I recorded for no reason 😭

[sacred edge]

You didn't accept my req 😭

Good thing I found someone with mountain

But still accept haha

I like friends

I am called Doctor

[thick sphinx]

Now I can PUSH story soon. I'll just take all the free op waiting haha

[sacred edge]

Dr. Doctor

[thick sphinx]

😆

I get it

I like half an hour i should h able to clear chapter 7 now thanks to 7-9 being clear, but before that i need to finish this on challenge modes, so like 8 and challenge

@hidden axle i should be able to the rest of the story from 7-10 to 14 ending? As I'm done with ch 15 alr and only the 15 20 stage remain?

[sacred edge]

Someone told me from ch 8

Shit gets quite hard

[thick sphinx]

Ch is the last ch in act 1

Act 2 start from ch 9

Technically

If there is 20 op min per ch

[sacred edge]

I meant 8-x

[thick sphinx]

I can get around 140 - 7 op

Which is great

[thick sphinx]

Wdym

[sacred edge]

Like ch after ch7?

[thick sphinx]

Idk

Only one way to find out rt?

😆

[elder flume]

kina depends on creativity

chap 12 is what fucks people up

[thick sphinx]

Wdym by tha

[thick sphinx]

How hardis it 😭

[elder flume]

gen content you can pretty much clear it with anything
just depends on how you wana do it

[thick sphinx]

Damn

[sterile delta]

dp capped at 20, need to play amongus with civilians

[sacred edge]

Lol

[elder flume]

and then Wis starts from 24

[thick sphinx]

😭😭😭😭

[glass monolith]

And you can physically get in situation when you can't redeploy due cost cap

[sterile delta]

not statchecky, just gimmicky
if you read and play into the mechanic its fine

[thick sphinx]

Wait what, can myrtle work?

[elder flume]

your dp limit is 20

until you free boxes and civ

[glass monolith]

If there are any, heheheh, send the drones

[elder flume]

ofc just pull SA2 and break the gimmick

[thick sphinx]

WAIT. MATSUKIRI S1 -4 DP COST TO RIGHTMOST OPERATOR, I CAN STILL WISADEL IT YESS

[elder flume]

but ye thats where creativity comes to play

[thick sphinx]

Soon hehe

[glass monolith]

Curse yo matsukiriiii!

[thick sphinx]

Yeaaaa

[thick sphinx]

Lmao

[thick sphinx]

Hmm

[glass monolith]

I can use brain, or pot 2 ceobe (DP cost 20)

[thick sphinx]

Idh ceobe, idk if she's good or not?

[glass monolith]

Nah just funny dog but i hate 3 block enemy of chapter

[thick sphinx]

Then no difference lol, just do that

[thick sphinx]

Huh?

[glass monolith]

you will see, when you do chapter 12 i am not here to write gimmick of each enemy i am here to do stupid ATK minigame

[elder flume]

[thick sphinx]

😭 what is ur hate towards the ato minigame 😭

[thick sphinx]

HOWW

[glass monolith]

Done talking, trust 0%, small win, income x1

[thick sphinx]

😭

[floral wigeon]

Help?

[glass monolith]

What risk combo you trying to achieve

[sterile delta]

theres a raidian + tragodia 620 clear if thats what you're trying to do

[full stream]

625🤫

[floral wigeon]

accidrop skin

[elder flume]

Bring E1 Matsukiri instead of Myrtle

[sonic willow]

There's like a 2op with trag and necrass or was it logos and necrass

[elder flume]

Oh nvm its E2 1 Trag

Damn

Not even Matsu will let him proc

Exu2 level 1 too hmm

[floral wigeon]

FUCK

[glass monolith]

even if it wasn't he doing -50% ATK ranged tiles

[elder flume]

Ya but Matsu can get it high enough to proc 1 cat NI

Assuming maxed Trag

[floral wigeon]

fuck this shit

im buying the skin instead

[glass monolith]

it is not for sale

i tihnk idk

[floral wigeon]

fuck this shit im going to sleep

[scarlet fulcrum]

speedrunning not always good, but yea u can buy skin after 14 minutes

Which is expensive imo

[floral wigeon]

ill just buy the skin and say i beat it
its not honest but at least i tried

[scarlet fulcrum]

The only u miss like medal related to skin, and wasted tokens

[floral wigeon]

completely gave up after,

[floral wigeon]

FUCK

[scarlet fulcrum]

just take it slowly next time, 2 weeks quite lenient ig

[signal vector]

I mean you can beat it with trag + leizi or trag + degen afaik

[dull quiver]

is there any low rarity guides for the main cc?

[floral wigeon]

no leizi
no de6gen

[signal vector]

625/880 with trag + radian
but the radian needs to be max me thinks

[signal vector]

RIP

[signal vector]

wait borrow a leizi then

just plant her down with a block 3

instead of banana borrow leizi

[floral wigeon]

NO TIME

[signal vector]

wdym no time?

[vernal valley]

Other region

[signal vector]

like u gotta go to bed now and just give up or what?

RIP

[floral wigeon]

YES

JP SERVR 5 MINS LEFT

[glass monolith]

At that point just give up, i would break wall if i had actual clear canceled out by daily reset tick

[signal vector]

Dang RIP

[glass monolith]

And best part - This fucking shit will be on rerun

[scarlet fulcrum]

Mine just unlucky i think, momo and other vip appear only on the end

[ember pebble]

holy shj

took me like

200+ tries

unholy rng

[glass monolith]

I just Lemuen S2 shot this shit. Glory to ammo reload

[hidden axle]

Mb went to grind is6

[hidden axle]

Lemuen can kill him?

[glass monolith]

Not as fast you would liked

I had extra tragodia ascalon and Milkshaker reloading help

[hidden axle]

Also how does the 'hole' work I don't have yu to make it work the normal way

Like can it work if I lure him after he dashes past all the way back to before he dashed through my op?

[craggy heron]

there is one video I saw that you have to timed your blocking so that when he dash he will be push to the bottom side (not the hole)
then retreat op and he will fall into the hole

[hidden axle]

ig I will try that

I managed to clear it on normal by abusing a glitch
But recreating it is hard

And the one time I managed to the CM condition actually botched it up

[remote atlas]

Stage?

[sacred edge]

7-9

[craggy heron]

must be this one

[sacred edge]

Yee

[remote atlas]

With your roster it would be overkill.

[sacred edge]

I just cheesed it

[sacred edge]

Noo i just leak lol

Had to borrow mountain

Didn't think the youtuber would be the one replying to me

Lol

[glass monolith]

i hate using guides for normal stages and 7-9 is one of few stages which holds medal for making me look one up

[hidden axle]

Back then my luckyass managed to get a mountain on mountain banner hence saved also had jaye e2 which was good for copium laneholding

[sacred edge]

I think this is my first time opening a guide..
Most of the time help from here works

Or i just go through painful hit and trial

[sacred edge]

I was lucky enough to get hoshi alt , leizi alt in 15 pulls but couldn't get haruka until 50 pulls

I just build silence now

Hehe

[hidden axle]

Welp
Also accepted your req

[dusty island]

Cleared the annihilation stage

[timber belfry]

Worked for me, took a few tries because I'm not the greatest at all the micro but I finally got a run that worked. Thanks 🥺

[timber belfry]

Now I just need to find a strategy to get the skin

[glass monolith]

For me 620 was harder than skin but i am basically used to those dogshit skin mission by 4th CC. This one actually "easier" as it give enemy 60% DR instead 300% HP so Tragodia and Virtuosa sweep

[timber belfry]

This is the first CC for me, I can borrow a Virtuosa but I only have tragodia and most guides I see need shu

https://www.krooster.com/network/lookup/agile-fawn-quail-74w0

I'm not really sure who I should bring

34/36 omg I can get so close

[vernal valley]

Yu is the one that makes the flame wall right? You should have an easy enough time with them +gg and lappalt

[timber belfry]

Lappalt really likes those balls tho, but I can try to play with it

Goldenglow ignores them

[vernal valley]

When I was trying lappalt for a borrow I was putting them on the bottom right of that right side box

And timing the skill for when bots would be coming out

Idk exactly how the targeting works but it never seemed to stick on the balls

[timber belfry]

I know lappalt will hit any object on map, goldenglow hits just enemies

Though I know goldenglow targets whatever is closest to leaking

Lappalt targetting is weirder

I think it has to do with where she is placed

So bottom right might help with that, I'm just a bit scared of her being deleted by those enemies

[vernal valley]

I filled top left/right/bottom right with dps and had haruka s2 bottom left of that island

Ultimately I used necrass over lappalt for my skin risks but I didn't have yu

Lapp also silences the big bots so as long as she hits them before they die no explosion

[fringe solstice]

You're welcome

[brisk surge]

5 star when

[glass monolith]

Bro i am not 5* player, i am just "no 6*s enjoyer" And i am not mad enough to not rarity abuse CC/IS/RA/EX stages/S stages/H stages and sometimes very annoying other shit

[full finch]

this is just a straight up lie wtf

he only takes damage from the blocker man

and you can't even haruka him either

[jovial nest]

If that was true, trag wouldnt even proc nervous ele dmg on him

[full finch]

it's 90% less phys/arts

not elem or true

but the bit about it decreasing while blocked just doesn't happen

[jovial nest]

You do know to do ele dmg meters, is based on arts dmg taken

[full finch]

no?

ever heard of tragodia?

[scarlet fulcrum]

They are ritualist bruh

[full finch]

well I haven't tried tragodia so that would probably work but

[scarlet fulcrum]

U re correct dw

[full finch]

I tried ceobe + ifrit + mon3tr S2 with nian blocking and bro took like 0 damage

[jovial nest]

7-18 matrix is a lot of stalling

Even my best casual burn team cant kill phase 1 (base difficulty of matrix) before he starts leaking

[dark violet]

turns out the drone mission made me do some unholy strategy

[full finch]

how do you stall him?

[dark violet]

tragodia and ulpian, usually

[scarlet fulcrum]

And balatro for bait most likely

Gladiia worked fine with some buff too ig

[dark violet]

?

[jovial nest]

Gladiia and Ulp with Spalter in the squad are enough

[dark violet]

what bait

[jovial nest]

and then Haruka helps heal Gladiia and Ulp

Gladiia is the spear target with the right positioning

[dark violet]

oh right, I just used gladiia to soak it up

[jovial nest]

Shu also helps heal Ulp in max risk

Trag nervous ele procs Patriot P1 enough to keep Ulp alive

[full finch]

oh ulp S2 bullshit?

[scarlet fulcrum]

smelling copy pasta smh

[jovial nest]

yeah

[full finch]

lame

[jovial nest]

if it works it works

[dark violet]

I needed to use ulpian with tragodia and shamare though

[jovial nest]

the other stall done is just fucking Yu and Shu

so you're stalling Patriot either way

[scarlet fulcrum]

Shu also grant buff to squad

[full finch]

oh, there's a yu shu stall?

[jovial nest]

very busy

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yea

[jovial nest]

and annoyin

constant Yu S2 looping

while others try to stall him enough for Yu to get back to looping him

[full finch]

huh

that's a really long wait though

[jovial nest]

either way

there's no fast nuking

[full finch]

like 140s

[jovial nest]

i mean Matrix mid/max risk might as well feel like high/max risk CCB

[full finch]

oh wait pat just kills him nvm

[jovial nest]

stall will fucking happen

[scarlet fulcrum]

The 4* clear based tho

[dark violet]

there's a 4* clear of r15 patriot? what

[scarlet fulcrum]

Its trimmed iirc, i just skipped the part

[jovial nest]

hell, max risk H9-2 was pretty fun in the minor stall I did (copied).
Used Shu's grass to keep stalling the middle lane army until Yu S3 + Blazer + Tex2 + Ela S3 mines + Lapptop kills the entire middle army before leaking

[dark violet]

Anyway, turns out hool and ela were valid picks for this crazy map
https://youtu.be/-j5Tb_eomYg

I abused the ammo talent of exulter with ela s3 for bonus damage

[jovial nest]

i have no idea why Matrix stages make me feel so interested while CCB dailies and main map makes me lose motivation

is it the novelty of making old difficult story stages harder?

[dark violet]

possibly, or the forced risks make tough choices more interesting

[jovial nest]

hell, I'm doing e2 caps and masteries for ops I don't plan on using

just so I can do max risk clears of matrix

[jovial nest]

yeah base difficulty isn't fucking joking

my best casual content squad

can't beat a single base diff of the 4 stages

[dark violet]

I've never been so glad I've been e2 mod 1 my ops as now, I could just swap around with almost full roster just to try out what could work

that's how I was able to use ela and hool when I don't use them at all

same for the other two maps where I just used some weird ops I never would've used usually

[jovial nest]

2 left and I'm waiting for my Arturia to finish S3M3 training before i attempt one of the two

[dark violet]

yeah, I used her for the first two, I'll definitely promote her to 70e2 m3 after this

I'll probably do that for ela too, I completely forgot her s3 was a lot of ammo, this is just perfect for IS with exulter

[jovial nest]

I'm still trying out the clear before I bother to give her mod3

i don't mind giving her mod1

but mod3 is steep

in data block expenses

[dark violet]

I don't mod 3 my ops yeah

[jovial nest]

some you have to

[dark violet]

I can barely afford mod 1 on them all

[jovial nest]

orian

i mod1 a lot of ops

not because it's useful

but because of lore

[dark violet]

yes

[jovial nest]

i suggest you mod3 whats useful

and don't give mods to anyone you won't use in hard content

[dark violet]

I mod 3 my main squad, but that's it

[jovial nest]

thats acceptable

main squad priveleges

[dark violet]

my module blocks scream in agony

[jovial nest]

goddamn! do you keep topping up with data block packs?

because even if i am 1 year late in starting AK, i was there at module infancy

so i couldn't have missed out that badly

oh

[dark violet]

only taken a few recently, but overall it's just farming every single module block source

except yellow certs

[jovial nest]

must be me also burning mod3 on more ops

than you using them to mod1 someone else instead

[dark violet]

yeah, especially when 6* cost 4 when 5* cost 2

[jovial nest]

for every 1 module level, someone else of same rarity could've gotten their mod1

yeah

at least for data block expenses

[dark violet]

I find it funny how the other two module resources are so absurdly easy to get I long stopped buying them in event shop

[jovial nest]

thats just normal

especially after SSS can be sweeped

[dark violet]

and I still have over 1.3K of the rare one

[dark violet]

Give us a conversion recipe HG, please

[jovial nest]

based on your amt

you actually did a lot of SSS grinds even before sweep

compared to me

or maybe

you bought in shop way longer than me

[scarlet fulcrum]

Checked again, its just base risk. Using old school shift block stall

[dark violet]

I cleared SSS every month yeah

[jovial nest]

damn

[dark violet]

even at release version

the secret medals were pure hell then, goldenglow cheese

[jovial nest]

you call it cheese

i call it optimal

[dark violet]

ah yeah, makes sense

[dark violet]

it was also one of the only safe clears

the most meta strategy probably

[dark violet]

and even then, it was easy to fail

[jovial nest]

new SSS is near. I wish the new medal looks great. I just replace the weakest food medal and keep 12 of the best looking ones.

[dark violet]

haha, I didn't think of that

my medals are still some old mashup of event and my favorite ops story records

[jovial nest]

up to you

i use SSS food medals because they look amazing compared to other medals

high quality

[dark violet]

Hey, tragodia event is there, I should've tried to get him harder I think

I didn't know he was that useful

[jovial nest]

my dude you must've been under a rock

to not know Trag is broken

[dark violet]

but with the few ops I let pass, I can handle using them as support since I have the rest to fill the need

[jovial nest]

it's like he's Wis tier in terms of strength but in CC role instead of DPS role

[dark violet]

and if I don't, I improvise with what I have

it has worked thus far, even for those hardest missions ever

[dark violet]

yeah idk, I vaguely saw his name around but not really about how broken he was

I heard the collab op was good iirc

My brain is cooked after 4 hours of hard strategy on that drone hell

[eager turtle]

i'm trying this guide here to end this event, which one can replace Mlynar?

[zealous cradle]

Afk guide when mlynar

Ok vro

[scarlet fulcrum]

Can be two part vid who knows

[jovial nest]

TSS, Mly, and Surtr

this is not AFK

not even close

same for Saria s3

Suzu S3

hell the only AFKs here are Thorns and Eyja

[flint musk]

Is this team good?

[vivid rain]

What are your other options

it should be good enough but i’d replace noir corne with someone else

[weak gazelle]

another liberator no?
leizi2 will replace him just fine

[flint musk]

This are my other operator

[vivid rain]

Hmm i’d recommend doing the side story recommended in #help ‘s newbie guide for tequila and kroosalter

those should be good for ya

[flint musk]

What should I switch out for?

[vivid rain]

I think matterhorn and shirayuki should go

[flint musk]

Ok thanks

[vivid rain]

Tbh this is more in line with #help ‘s purview, this channel is mainly for stage strategy

[flint musk]

Ok

[patent ivy]

Pain

Got it

Used the necrass/logos/ines comp i seen in a few vids

• reed is helping necrass dps bc mines isnt max module or skill level
• have to delay proc on lumen’s skill until the part where 2 ding dong laser towers come at logos in quick succession
• yu can be replaced with an arts defender, probably
• hoshiguma and tragodia were just backups in case yu/logos died (rose salt also backup)
• texas here for passive
• elysium -> necrass -> confess -> courier to start+take care of first 2 dogs+make sure servant of lamentation spawns in correct place
• lancet used for emergency healing on reed + bait

[wicked minnow]

i had a somewhat similar team comp and i dont remember doing that much for 625

logos and tragodia can clear like 99% of the stage

just need a little extra help with stragglers

[noble pewter]

Bro not using trag s2 prob the reason why everything harder for him

bro not even using trag, says he's just there as a backup

[fringe solstice]

It doesn't have, at least mod 2 lv 82 for the attack. so it probably wouldn't work anyway. Also took -atk risk.

[wicked minnow]

he took only 1 of the atk risks

trag still should be able to proc NI even without mod

i mean the underleveled trag is uhhh

interesting

for sure

yeah his trag probably doesnt with those risks

[fringe solstice]

I thought the cat needed the attack to proc NI

[elder flume]

For elites sure

[wicked minnow]

elites take 1000 to proc

only bosses take 2000

[foggy grove]

82 is only for boss

[fringe solstice]

is traffic tower elite Idk actually?

[wicked minnow]

normal iirc

[elder flume]

Oya 1000 elite

[wicked minnow]

it's elite nvm

the crossroads enemy?

ye elite

[noble pewter]

Either way he lived life on his own terms he may have understood something we did not, that copy paste strat alone, is not the same as living perhaps this is what freedom looks like

[elder flume]

S2M3 prob can

Modless E2 66 S2L7

[jovial nest]

Can anyone share me other videos of H5-1 r25?

[signal lichen]

You already seen pards and the arc rec I showed you right

[jovial nest]

share them again anyways

I'm trying to see which squad looks like i can use

with some minor improvements or tweaks

Because i can get behind e2 capping S3M3ing Arturia

but i can't get behind investing on levels and masteries on Nian so I want to see options

[signal lichen]

Ifk what your missing in fairness

But you can do shwarz and sui to compromise for pots

Texas bagpipe ofc

https://m.bilibili.com/video/BV1zBaDz3Ea1

Actually ig pard isn't that helpful since it's only 15

[jovial nest]

ok that vid's too potted

at the very least i can tell you easily

look for clears that use a lot of ops

[signal lichen]

I think it's possible for myself since I bring Texas Elysium sui and bagpipe

[jovial nest]

more ops means less pot gating sometimes

so just supplement with Sui battery and more DP?

and the pot gates mean little?

[signal lichen]

Also again the 13% from say schwarz is big

Add that with the 12% attack with sui

[jovial nest]

mine ain't potted

[signal lichen]

Well I have mod

[jovial nest]

oh

[signal lichen]

Sooooooo

[jovial nest]

mod...

[signal lichen]

12 mod blocks for a buff tbf is 💀

That's not exactly good

[jovial nest]

i mean

I tried 7-18 r25

without mod3ing Ulp and Haruka

worked well enough

i will try LS-4 25 later

with just mod1 Arturia

but mod3ing Schwarz just as a supplement

I think I'd rather invest on Nian tbh

[signal lichen]

Oh right there is a max risk while blocking patriot and not just yu + other stall options

[jovial nest]

yeah

it's pretty comfortable at least

I did S1M3 Shu

for that turtle strat to work

so that Shu can keep up

with Ulp healing until Trag procs Patriot again

[signal lichen]

Yeah s1m3 is what I use

[jovial nest]

well

it was S1 SL7 before

[signal lichen]

Idk if it's a pot issue/mod issue with haruka or just levels or timing or what

But I NEED extra healing

[jovial nest]

my haruka is a mod1

Ulp is also a mod1 for me

Haruka's mod1 is really good

extra targetting

[signal lichen]

It's also a little hard for me to compare

So I have trag pot 5

Artoria p5

[jovial nest]

all i can say to you is more pots usually is just better performing

as for timings that rely on enemies being alive longer

i can only see that for

controlled block leaking due to being over block limit

or off/def rec

not too many detractors

to keeping enemies alive longer

[signal lichen]

I can basically get away with a lot more with what I got for h5 1

[jovial nest]

other H5-1 25 vids?

[signal lichen]

I just borrow max pot wis for example use my p2 lumen and p5 trag p5 artoria and then bagpipe sui Texas schwarz is what I got lined up to make up for it

I actually haven't done it yet but

It should for sure clear

If I do It right

[jovial nest]

my training room's empty right now so I'm being very controlling if i can raise someone already without too much issue

[signal lichen]

I wish there was more listed on arc rec

I think theres a lot of ops that can help though thinking on it

[jovial nest]

why not. I'll give it a shot without too many modules

or any training or investments at all

maybe it's enough

[signal lichen]

Mylynar for more dps hoshi can tank and dps. These enemies even on max risk don't quite ohko and if you have good arts res can tank

Mlynar eats a few hits

Hoshi probably a lot

[jovial nest]

Hoshi hitting a lot of hits is an understatement

[signal lichen]

Ines for slow (does she slow air?) lmao how do I not know

[jovial nest]

especially when her S3 increases her HP, and then time the S3 deactivating for immortal mode with maximum efficiency

and then Geexu S3 revives her again

for another round

[signal lichen]

Yeah super useful there but dp can be trouble some

[jovial nest]

well those squads tend to not be picky with bringing DP printing

the ones i used in H9-2 used Ines and there's enough time to print it

and 7-18 used Texas, Sail, and Bagpipe

and while P1 Patriot was stalled

no matter how high the DP

[signal lichen]

You already have 7-18 25?

[jovial nest]

every necessary redep was done

yeah

[signal lichen]

Impressive

Gotta try it myself

[jovial nest]

not exactly. It is still copying strats

[signal lichen]

I did 20 so far

[jovial nest]

but it is fun to do it yourself even if you're doing it step by step

i at least learn why it works and why some steps are done

even if no one explains shit

due to constant trial and error of copying it

[signal lichen]

I mean I copied pard then went wait I can just nuke the stupid stuff

All those enemies that come later

I have a bunch of slots

Let me yu blaze wis murder them

Now the early stuff and the movmenent speed is uhhhhh

Idk yet

[jovial nest]

incoming PO drought

[smoky halo]

just dont have fomo

and skip the skins

🚬

[jovial nest]

i don't have such issues

Geexu, Trag, Hoshitter, Haruka, they were all kind to me

[signal lichen]

I kinda just am stopping the getting of skins

Trag was stupid banner

I got p5 trag BEFORE getting tippi

[jovial nest]

I'm ready

[signal lichen]

Why is this possible

[jovial nest]

i skipped Tippi

your fault for wanting 5*

[signal lichen]

[wheat berry]

hey all do you have tips on.clear stage 1 AT-1(I'm newbie) and my usual comp auto deploy always kept failing

[jovial nest]

there's 2 reasons for autos to stop working

1. your ops got stronger and they killed enemies too fast making the kill gates faster or some interactions not working

2. desync from device or lag

it's usually #1

thats why if your ops keeps getting masteries or level ups

older autos will desync

autos do not save your old ops' levels, etc.

it will ALWAYS use the ones you have

[fringe solstice]

what I found with the AT stages is that the pinballs break the auto so I recommend not using them

[wheat berry]

really, because the reason i kept failing the big guy always kill me I thought the damage were issue

then wwait let me try again with new comp

[jovial nest]

ok i forgot another reason why auto fails

timing is too tight

that autos having minor desyncs fail to do it

thats why the more forgiving or lazy the clear, the better

[weak gazelle]

avoid using pinball
the usual cause of auto fail for this event

[jovial nest]

if you were using pinball craze

to drop 0 DP ops

and that gets desynced

yeah....a lot of autofails will happen

the drop happens earlier or later

[wheat berry]

by the way should i level up amiya to punih big guy?

[jovial nest]

skills don't get used asap

meter goes down

they get kicked too soon

[wheat berry]

dayum

[jovial nest]

there's only one reason to raise Amiya. It's to get her other classes

[signal lichen]

I mean that and progress story

[jovial nest]

what do you mean....

just finishing ch3

gives you access to ch9 and ch15

unless you mean story, then yeah

sure

[signal lichen]

Chapter 8 isn't real

[wheat berry]

so its ok to up amiya ??

[signal lichen]

Yes

Medic is very good in IS

[wheat berry]

okee i need it to punish unholy tank

[signal lichen]

E2 caster does have true damage niche and guard has some super rare niches well this isn't entirely fair depending on what you own

This niche can grow.bigger if lacking more

[jovial nest]

all of her classes have some form of true dmg

just not the best option

[signal lichen]

Yeah

As far as 5*go I think she's still one of my most used

But mostly medic for IS

[wheat berry]

what is IS first

[jovial nest]

as for me, i didn't care

She's daughteru

[signal lichen]

Integrated strategies

True

I have her maxed on all forms

M15

[jovial nest]

damn

for now i just made do with her true dmg skills M3'd

and mod1'd every form

[jovial nest]

These

AK's Roguelite dungeons

all with their own powerups, metas, and reward milestones

the most played endgame in AK I reckon

some play it even when they've gotten all the rewards, purely for fun

I have no clue if AK's IS success was what made other gachas try implementing roguelite modes in theirs

but i can say that IS has been very successful that it's visible outside AK players

[wheat berry]

oke oke i will try

[jovial nest]

i don't recommend it too much unless you already have a decent amount of operators raised

[wheat berry]

by the way is DH stage guide only till 5? is there any guide to DH9/10

[wheat berry]

oh then later i still SO new after all

[signal lichen]

I mean that's fine

D0 anyone can do but super high difficulties are well yeah super difficult generally for most people

[desert oracle]

is there a guide for at s 4
i dont have any of the new meta units i havent played for like a year and a hlaf so im kinda struggling to kill this boss

[fringe solstice]

that is when tequila is unlocked so you can use e2 ticket. Dh9/10 should be much easier with e2 borrow and tequila but only required for max potential if you want it

[wheat berry]

by the way the cost of levelling up material are same right? the difference only at upgrade tier(e?)

[jovial nest]

i mean if your raised ops is not even enough for 2 squads worth, recruiting operators or the variety in a run is dry af

it's not too fun when there's too few options

[wheat berry]

yaa i want to push till mas potential

[signal lichen]

Not sure I understood the question

[jovial nest]

this is me in IS1

it wasn't fun, that's for sure

most vouchers are worthless

and there's only 1 team to do

[wheat berry]

are haze were ok too for upgrade? some say upgrade all 3 star some say dont

[vital arrow]

haze isnt a *3

[signal lichen]

Depends on how early you are

[vital arrow]

steward and amiya is enough

if youre that desperate, raise click

[fringe solstice]

e1 for base skill

[signal lichen]

Click generally is recommended as 4* caster for general content yeah

[vital arrow]

haze base skill is on E0

[fringe solstice]

oh mb

I forgot which ones is e1 or e0

[fiery anchor]

This is the lowest op I've seen but I'm sure bilibili has more https://youtu.be/QhGT1sInQuQ?si=coTHFMmYOks3pGtg

Just borrow tragodia and fill the rest with your ops

[desert oracle]

i dont have the two so i cant do that strat im struggling to find one i can use

[wheat berry]

Okei okei

[fringe solstice]

mb it is e0 for base skill so dont do it

[fiery anchor]

Borrow trag, replace wis with your best ops. Look at the way the guide uses trag cat as guidance

[wheat berry]

The card material for leveling up, it cost same or still difference?

[signal lichen]

All e2 operators require specific materials all require 4 advanced chips

[signal vector]

just lemuen it

maybe

[signal lichen]

I still don't understand

[signal vector]

cause he has high DEF, but lemuen can just brute force it due to how much single target dmg she does with her s2 lol

[fringe solstice]

I would check out the #r-i-i-c pins for base teams and combos, and go to the noob section @wheat berry

[signal vector]

mark him with anadchiel or plume or ambriel and then use lemuen to burst him

[fringe solstice]

do you mean the green, blue, gold exp cards? It is the same cost of lmd

[signal lichen]

Yeah lmd is same

[signal vector]

like what the chips?

what you get from farming chips are chip packs

[weak gazelle]

show roster?
or the guide showed enough?

[signal vector]

you craft chip packs with chip catalyst to make dual chips

which is what you use to promote people

[signal lichen]

You need to craft dual chips yes

[signal vector]

dual chips are created in the yellow building in your base

the yellow building needs to be lv3

[desert oracle]

i have some other 6 stars but i havent built them yet

[signal vector]

I'd like to propose a funny solution, skadi s3 + lemuen s2

[vital arrow]

cant you just borrow tragodia and kill him slowly or something

[weak gazelle]

hmmm
this would be brute force

[signal lichen]

Ethan s2 is great for the AT boss as well

[fringe solstice]

well you could borrow exu alter and use warfarin/skadi buffs

[signal lichen]

Just slow kill him and dps him slowly

[fringe solstice]

That's what I did

[weak gazelle]

borrow or nah?
if borrow i prefer logos
and dump every ranged dps you have to kill mifune

[wheat berry]

Okei thanks, then only eliter material upgrade cost were difference, thanks

[wheat berry]

Dawg thanks for all tips I can auto deploy rn hahahaga

[elder flume]

try to get to AT 4 atleast

Matsu is good

with context

[wheat berry]

Don't worry i already unlock matsu with full potent

[wheat berry]

What is riic? And where noob section at

[wheat berry]

Okei don't e1 them

[wheat berry]

Kkk thankss urs helpful

[patent ivy]

I actually tried using tragodia instead of logos for that spot, and neither S2 nor S3 will kill the traffic towers without aid. The redeployment time really fucks up the cat

Masteries and module really matters (and im out of time for masteries, and out of module blocks for modules)

[fringe solstice]

It's a channel in this discord server in other chats. It has all the base guide stuff which is important for lmd and exp income and other things

[jovial nest]

there's no such thing as noob section

[wheat berry]

I search it on channel and roles it didn’t pop up

[jovial nest]

just go to the channel and ask questions

or next steps

#r-i-i-c

it's not a role

just click that

[wheat berry]

Okeh Okeh thanks

[fringe solstice]

I mean on the google spreadsheet link "Base Teams and Combos Guide" in the pins

[wheat berry]

Ooo okee

[nimble pawn]

Finally, a nice team. What do you all think?

[vital arrow]

wheres tequila

andreana isnt that good

same as vanilla and scav

[nimble pawn]

Oh yeah she's specific

[nimble pawn]

Any suggestion?

[vital arrow]

matsukiri is still available to get from event

[nimble pawn]

I'm new player so I don't know her

[vital arrow]

change perfumer to sussurro or silence or something

matsukiri is from ATO

tequila is from dossoles holiday

[nimble pawn]

ATO?

[vital arrow]

read the pinned voucher guide on #help

ATO

the current event

[nimble pawn]

Ok thanks

Should I level up mountain and schwarz.

I want to make play her as a boss killer while his a lane holder. What do you think?

[vital arrow]

you dont have anyone better so

I mean thats their job

[nimble pawn]

Yeah I guess so

[nimble pawn]

Which pin is it exactly?

[elder flume]

Havent hit x4 yet

[earnest elbow]

I'm about to give up on CCB4. Chat please help me. I make it half way with what I have. But falls apart

[vital arrow]

useful links

[nimble pawn]

This, right? Thanks.

[vital arrow]

amd voucher guide

[nimble pawn]

Couldn't find voucher guide. Which one?

[vital arrow]

selector

[elder flume]

Wonder if theres a better map to farm lucksack

[frank heath]

Yoo, in CC who a good replacer for Ines?

[wheat berry]

Should I up my tequila level or wait the fifteen days instant lvl 80 ticket???

[pearl compass]

Irreplaceable.

[frank heath]

Logos to?

[craggy heron]

as in dp regen or binding ?

[pearl compass]

Canta/Surfer will print DP, but you need to reveal invis units for Traffic Towers.

[frank heath]

Dp regen in the start

[craggy heron]

cantabile/surfer can do that

[pearl compass]

Then Canta/Surfer

[craggy heron]

also myrtle if you dont have either of those

[pearl compass]

Kinda irreplaceable too, but you could try Tragodia S3 them.

Tho he might lack damage to kill them.

[frank heath]

Aight

[wheat berry]

anyonee....

[pearl compass]

Lv80 ticket.

Because it will be cheaper that way.

Don't make him further Lv1 with your own resources - it's a waste.

[wheat berry]

oke oke. i stuck at lvl 10 then

so wwe dont really have any guide for DH 5-10?

by the way after dolores which one should i unlock again

[pearl compass]

From Arf?

Making him maxpot is low prio, although you may push to it.

And there's plenty of lowend guides.

Just search KyostinV.

To at least get an idea how to beat.

[pearl compass]

Invitation to Wine

[nimble pawn]

How do you get that ticket?

[pearl compass]

Newbie Event Day 7.

[wheat berry]

what is arf???

[wheat berry]

kkk

[wheat berry]

NB privillege

[nimble pawn]

Ok

[pearl compass]

@ arflanyr

https://youtu.be/cvpVd4ZPESQ

I thought you watched him for that.

[noble pewter]

Lv1 puzzle top left hit traffic skill 1

Better than canta n surfer cause their skill 1 is limited by time n if u doing the risk dp cost to deploy is extra so they might not give u back more dp than they cost to deploy each time sometimes n require micromanage deploy n retreat n if u r using skill 2 u need wait the time or bring bagpipe, n u might not even have them or have them e1 for skill 2

While puzzle is free n can use out of the box

[elder flume]

Puzzle moment

tho E2 helps a lot in dp gen

[noble pewter]

Ah maybe if u have puzzle e2 u can hit ball which is full hp always n proc talent extra 2sp for even faster dp

[wheat berry]

oh i do but it only till dh-5 but 6-10 it doesnt have the strat

[elder flume]

since P6 Teq is not prio

[wheat berry]

ouuu, i just thought it would look cool to have max pot if you have the chance

[naive drift]

any tips for 2-8?

whatever i do doesnt seem to work

[pearl compass]

Is that level with some Defender drones?

[naive drift]

yeh

like 5 of those

if i spread out my ranged ops they get picked off by the molotov guys

[pearl compass]

Oh, THIS one?

[naive drift]

yeh

[pearl compass]

You just use Shaw.

On bottom lane.

[naive drift]

the problem isnt the bottom lane

[pearl compass]

Kroos picking drones.

[naive drift]

the problem is the top one where i get easily swarmed

[pearl compass]

Don't forget the Deploy Order rule

The last deployed operator GETS MAXIMUM PRIORITY

[naive drift]

i know

i tend to try to deploy defenders last

but also if i dont deploy them early i get also screwed

[pearl compass]

Use Vanguards, then deploy Ranged units, then Defenders.

Retreat Vanguards when served their purpose.

[naive drift]

this is my second acc because the first one i completed using only guides so my strategy sucks

[naive drift]

my problem is again, i get overwelmed

[pearl compass]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/390756814532378634/1357694533843816612/JF1C08IPIY90DU8DH.gif

[naive drift]

kroos cant deal with all the drones by herself

[pearl compass]

Use Lava

[wheat berry]

wait let ss my troops to you i just finish it

[pearl compass]

Can kill trash mobs and help with drones.

[wheat berry]

just borrowed wisadel prepare 2 caster 1 healer 2 tank n 1 vg, 1 healer , and 1 kroos

[naive drift]

i dont wanna borrow anyone since i want to have auto deploy avaliable

but i guess i must and be able to auto deploy later

[wheat berry]

...

then you ust just do it 2 caster 2 ranger, 2 healer 2 guard, 2 defender and attacker?

[naive drift]

@wheat berry theres no low res enemy here so i think single target caster would be a bit useless

[pearl compass]

Catapult isn't useful either, but we have her too.

[wheat berry]

the logger?, kinda tanky

[pearl compass]

[wheat berry]

but if you dong want, just use support that has cc and lava(caster that have aor damage)

[naive drift]

hes tanky yes but i dont think a single target cast is justified (idk

[daring wasp]

are current banners any good? anyone i should pull?

[wheat berry]

Lava( aoe damage....) if i remember correctly based on ii just use it? i dont know I'm newbie like you

[pearl compass]

Sakiko

Which is Feb 10th.

[wheat berry]

do you think i also need to pursue sakikoas newbie?

[pearl compass]

She's strong op to use, so I see no reason to not try pullin her

Besides she needs your 100 pulls. As guarantee.

[daring wasp]

alrighty, so no need to pull on current banner i supposed?

[pearl compass]

No.

Every banner available is a pure bait.

For mid.

[wheat berry]

kkkk

will it last till end?

[daring wasp]

bet, thanks

[pearl compass]

Until end of the event thankfully.

[wheat berry]

kkkk

[pearl compass]

14 days both banner and event.

Cause only Normal and EX stages.

[wheat berry]

eh i mean till end game? will it be still used ? for some part of strat

[pearl compass]

Well, she's being used in IS6

As DPS

Her main advantage is do big quality damage.

Survivability is whatever tho.

[naive drift]

maybe i should invest in units other than 3*

[pearl compass]

Why not? What do you have?

[noble pewter]

What unit r u even using, fang shud able survive

If u desperate need some heal use lancet after fang is down

[naive drift]

This is what I am using for that level

[wheat berry]

hmmm your level kinda low issue?, i dont know

[pearl compass]

See no problem to clear it

[naive drift]

i am using rangers cuz the drone that usually fliest by then gets killed by him

[pearl compass]

Maybe switch Rangers to Midnight.

[noble pewter]

Looks solid

[naive drift]

Midnight?

[pearl compass]

Midnight.

[wheat berry]

wait how you able to have elite that fast and thats alot

[naive drift]

Who is that? Can't remember

[pearl compass]

3☆ Guard/Lord vampire dude.

[naive drift]

Oh that guy

[pearl compass]

Deals enough damage, can damage drones.

Can babysit from defender behind.

[noble pewter]

Put ur range unit on the anti air rune too for more anti air dmg

[naive drift]

and a healer pointed to them?

i guess thats obvious

[noble pewter]

Definitely

[naive drift]

blegh midnight is only level 20

already fucked up :c

cuz i need to put fang and vanilla otherwise fang just leaks

and shaw

and one of the healers

[dark violet]

I still have the final matrix map to clear

I hope it won't be as hard as drone hell

[noble pewter]

What other units do u have built?

[naive drift]

p much nothing else

scavenger level 40

thats about it

also whats a good way to get battlerecords and lmd? i heard base but mine sucks since i just started

[noble pewter]

Basically u put the vg early mid healer behind, then cardigan/shaw below, lava to support dps, kroos on anti air face left, if u have orchid is very nice unit also, otherwise ranger shud be OK too but don't deploy him last, then retreat the vg immediately n replace with beagle cause u need to reposition them later when the air dudes land n try to sneak past

[naive drift]

i suppose so

[noble pewter]

Lv not a big problem, already e1 is fine enemy don't hit hard

Even if challenge mode they r not doing huge chunk of dmg

But u need healer down early or vg is ovverun

Delay the bottom u have enuf time stop the bottom at the tile

Bring a charger like plume is also nice can stall n retreat for full dp

Put both ur vg down fast early game, delay 2nd vg put down splitbx the enemy so u cna atk with both same time

[wheat berry]

how do i farm material that fast from lmd and upgrade mats to e1?

[elder flume]

farm RA IS

event when they come

[noble pewter]

Maybe play IS or some gamemode

[sonic willow]

Ato shop should be enough for like 6+ e1s

[noble pewter]

Takes time no super shortcut

Borrow unit to play IS makes u strong n ez

Fresh account in 24 hours can finish IS mode get raidian, unlock free puzzle for dp, then borrow tragodia n play 620 risk CC n win

[sonic willow]

All in 55mins?

[noble pewter]

now is too late, u have only urself blame leave CC homework until last minute

[wheat berry]

my brain are burning....

[fluid flint]

are there any good top lane carries for annihilation or do i have to build humus

[elder flume]

prob Virt

[naive drift]

i cant even get to IS because it needs 3-8

barely in 2-8

[sonic willow]

Bro There are like 30 annihilations maps

[noble pewter]

Be ignited by a burning desire go listen operation blade music

[wheat berry]

dang, I suddenly feel i dont understand anyting

[naive drift]

i need more lmd ngl

[fluid flint]

oh my bad i thought it was just one open saltfin graveyard

[wheat berry]

RA IS?, GAME MODE? , 620 risk CC? , dawg my next step only this

[elder flume]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV14ptGzPEqK/?spm_id_from=333.337.search-card.all.click

[wheat berry]

this

[elder flume]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV19k8nzuEbg/?spm_id_from=333.337.search-card.all.click

[naive drift]

i do have enough gold certs for firewhisle or zima (since i selected her in kernel)

[elder flume]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1Uz82zTEDT/?spm_id_from=333.337.search-card.all.click

[naive drift]

are any of these two worth?

[naive drift]

i do not want a guide, but thanks, i wanna try to figure this on my own lol

[wheat berry]

but your asking?

[elder flume]

you dont use Firewhistle and Zima until you know what youre strat youre going for tbh

so prob a no

[naive drift]

gotcha

[sonic willow]

If you're talking about top right spawn, healer + aoe guard/good dps or a reaper works ye

[naive drift]

im not asking, im complaining that I suck

[wheat berry]

OOO, dont worry same here

[fluid flint]

yeah i dont think i have any aoe guards invested but i think i will try haruka and double guard on the top

and see if it works

[noble pewter]

Just think of it like chess where u develop ur pieces n control the board

[elder flume]

the enemy is moving multiple pawns before my own turn

[noble pewter]

just deploy ur queen to kill them all

a weakling in numbers is a weakling still

[naive drift]

it do be hard

[terse flume]

im new in game, which banner i should pull?

[tender orbit]

Better ask in #help

[pearl compass]

Sakiko

[terse flume]

ok tks

[jovial sequoia]

@astral cosmos so i use kyo strat in the 9-19
But the dog keep breaking the debris (second red box)

[astral cosmos]

can you send a screenshot of that point

[elder flume]

inb4 didnt retreat debris

[jovial sequoia]

@astral cosmos on the right

[astral cosmos]

the bottom right pillar ya

[jovial sequoia]

I FUCKIN HATE
THIS STAGE
ON GOD

[jovial sequoia]

Yes

[elder flume]

if you want to block bottom side then there needs to be another entrance if you dont want it broken

typically the bottom left of blue box is used to path

[jovial sequoia]

I did break both pillar

Bht the damn dog still head to the bottom

[elder flume]

you pushed bottom left pillar to left ?

[jovial sequoia]

No?

I push the bottom pillar to the right

And then i remove the upper one

Bottom right of the bkue box

[elder flume]

prob easier if you play the map and ss from there

[pearl compass]

If they don't have any path, they go to shortest possible with blockage destroying on their way.

[elder flume]

im sensing top or left side is blocked

either self blocked or Mandra blocked

[foggy grove]

they only break the debris if no valid path to blue box

[jovial sequoia]

I cant even wisadel that fucker

[foggy grove]

but you can

[jovial sequoia]

Not even logos

[foggy grove]

drop pillar,wis 2 shot

rinse and repeat

🤯

[jovial sequoia]

brought matsuki

solved every problem

[sonic willow]

Tragussy bullies this stage btw

[rose oxide]

real

[naive drift]

thats it, i give up

been at this for 4 hours

im watching a guide on2-8

wow even with a guide i mess up

finally, done it

[tribal hinge]

Anyone knows how to do JT8-3? 🥀

[glass monolith]

Bait her burns like it is 2021. Or friend support vanguard Mitm and abuse his summon niche of spawning trash on retreat

[limpid ore]

easier way is to use mitm rubble car yah

[foggy grove]

if you have to borrow just use haruka and shut off your brain

else do the whole bait things

[limpid ore]

it's only JT8-3 after all

not H8-4

[hidden axle]

Doesn't logos delete her fireballs

[limpid ore]

yeah but mitm rubble doesnt despawn on skill end

[glass monolith]

Talubruh burn cycle is slower than trash cycle

(How to use JT8-3 as example for City planning)

[elder flume]

surely its Lumen S2 shill stage

[limpid ore]

talulah the garbage burner

[idle bloom]

I'm stuck on this one

[glass monolith]

Casters AFK for a while, uh.... Have fun

[idle bloom]

I can kill them if i instantly deploy surtr i can redeploy her to kill both sides of casters on the top side , i just get overwhelmed and leak from the bottom

The late caster spawns on the middle left is killing me

[elder flume]

why is Cuora full hp and using S1

use the top tiles to hit bottom once youre done with top

[idle bloom]

I fixed it using e2 red

Also i just found out the last unit put down gets targeted?

[glass monolith]

Took your time with chapter 1 or so tutorial

[idle bloom]

[glass monolith]

But honestly took my time with that too One missed deploy and everything goes sideways

[idle bloom]

I just swapped the order of Lapland and cuora and used e2 red timings

All these guides used an aoe sniper

[glass monolith]

Are you calling Surtr red?

[idle bloom]

No

[craggy heron]

Project Red ?

[idle bloom]

The e2 red i got baited into

I blame reddit

[glass monolith]

Oh you swapped someone out after last screenshot

[craggy heron]

you would hate that stage even more in CM

Caster are invis

[idle bloom]

Surely Saki makes things easier

Now onto 9-5

[idle bloom]

Yeah dropped orchid for red

[glass monolith]

I dont know what chapter 16 boss does because CN just Sakiko-ed

[thick sphinx]

Dude, lemuen s3 is crazy damage

Though patriot would be harder cuz of the stuff I have heard

Ch 8 is also easy rt?

I'm so close to act one completion lmao

Is talulah the boss?

[elder flume]

prob

[thick sphinx]

Alr

[glass monolith]

Power of 5 years apart and shit.

[thick sphinx]

Lmfao

I saw a vid

And he took like 0 damage every hit

Ppl were using those land mines and stuff

I just popped wisadel to kill the wave, silver ash and lezi in the back cuz I was expecting him to kill my ops, then lemuen front for s3, her s3 one shot patriot phase one 😆

[elder flume]

You can still try Patriot Prime

[thick sphinx]

😭

[thick sphinx]

What the hell is that?

Why the hell does it look so terrifying 😭

Is it the challenge mode or smtg?

[wicked minnow]

this is how old players describe facing patriot for the first time

this is CC mode lmao

[thick sphinx]

For me it was pretty easy on normal mode, but I can see how scary it would have been for old players 😭

[thick sphinx]

Ohh alr tg, I got scared I had to face him lol

[wicked minnow]

they made normal story stages / supply stages into CC stages

it's uhh very hard but there are people who've done it already

there's clears of it online you can find

[thick sphinx]

Ahh alr

But I don't think I can do cc at all

Ch 8 should be easy rt?

[elder flume]

prob