strategy

[lime lantern]

would probably just depend on DEF/RES of enemy then

[wicked minnow]

for worst case scenario i got 77k total damage
35k physical 41k arts

[lime lantern]

actually dont mind me im being stupid

s2 is 4 targets

[wicked minnow]

for best case scenario should be 233k total damage

[lime lantern]

ok what

even when i did it mathematically yesterday most i got was 180k approximately

[lime lantern]

assuming 20 total ticks

[wicked minnow]

i believe the lightning bolts hit 6 times total

[lime lantern]

afaik its 5 (in practice)

due to frame rounding

dont quote me on that tho

[wicked minnow]

hmmm

if it's 5 then 200k total

with the equation above

i dont think framerounding affects something like this but i dont know all that much about it either

[lime lantern]

[wicked minnow]

im just thinking that it sparks once when it spawns and then ever 0.6 seconds after so 6 total

[lime lantern]

Ive seen ppl say either 180 or 200

[wicked minnow]

ill call the goons and see what they did

@willow sun @south spindle

calculate 👉👈

[south spindle]

I never done it

[wicked minnow]

damn

[south spindle]

[wicked minnow]

was worth a shot

i'd have to test how many times a spark deals damage in game

that sounds painful

[tired relic]

take one spark

[wicked minnow]

oh the more i think about it the worse it sounds

[tired relic]

is the best way

[lime lantern]

was gonna but

[wicked minnow]

wdym take one spark 🥹

[lime lantern]

couldnt find a sarai sup

saria

soo

[wicked minnow]

they dont spawn at the same time and it's difficult to isolate a spark till nasti drops if that even works

if they spawned at the same time then it would've been clear but nooooooo

[tired relic]

does ros pillar work

[wicked minnow]

they didnt want it to be clear :realmad:

[tired relic]

or roadblock?

[wicked minnow]

never thought to try

[lime lantern]

they dont spawn at the same time??

[wicked minnow]

ill test some stuff

[lime lantern]

😭😭😭😭

[wicked minnow]

😭

[tired relic]

they do

afaik

[wicked minnow]

※攻击后，以0.28s为间隔，依次生成向上/向右/向下/向左移动的电流，电流移动速度1.0，最长持续3.1s；每个电流独立计算冷却与伤害效果，只在即将进入地块时进行反弹判定，在司霆惊蛰离场时立刻消失。

[tired relic]

with each hit

[wicked minnow]

prts wiki makes mention of it

0.28s part

[elder flume]

You kinda just have to find a map with a red box enclosed on 3 sides to not need Nasti no ?

[tired relic]

lemme just read wiki translation

[tired relic]

that would make 4 sparks isolated

no?

[elder flume]

Is this going for not isolated?
Idk im not backreading

[tired relic]

1 is not feasible

[elder flume]

I can give Saria S3M3 if you do want to see red numbers

[tired relic]

i think

[wicked minnow]

i imagine if we see the sparks dealing damage right before it leaves would that count for what we are looking for

[wicked minnow]

ooooooooo

i got a saria

ill go test rn

[tired relic]

rofl?

[wicked minnow]

i forgot she existed icl

[tired relic]

what were you waiting for

[elder flume]

Shes like the easiest amp outside of Pat mines

[tired relic]

doesnt that mean

after she performs her attack

current starts from the enemy location

[wicked minnow]

it starts from the middle of the tile the enemy is on afaik

[lime lantern]

ya it does

[lime lantern]

starting from which cardinal directoon

and then what directions

[wicked minnow]

saria + leizi didnt show red numbers on talulah. is this because of res or is it because 0.7 attack scale on the bolts?

[wicked minnow]

not sure if it's consistent but when i tested her it was starting from north then clockwise

[lime lantern]

I see

[elder flume]

ascale shouldnt affect it

hm

[lime lantern]

are we beingtoo schizo

[elder flume]

if you add Pat mines do they show up

[wicked minnow]

i know res in general affects red numbers but idk how it works with dmg amp

ill try that then ye

[willow sun]

mf im studying for finals

[willow sun]

if there’s nothing more to it then it’s because of the atk scale

[wicked minnow]

[willow sun]

red numbers just means you’re doing more damage than expected (which attack scale does)
say you have 100 atk and 200% atk as phys damage, even if you do only 200 damage to an enemy with 500 defense (so 10 damage), the expected amount would be based off of 100 atk, or 5 damage
since 10 damage is more than 50% higher than 5 damage, its a red number

[wicked minnow]

the mine isnt showing but there's a mine effect on him

im bouta shove ifrit up his ass bet

[willow sun]

changing def/res won’t affect red numbers

[elder flume]

seems to be a problem with the lightning coding itself to not count

[willow sun]

err rather it won’t affect whether or not they appear

[lime lantern]

how to count the ticks then

[wicked minnow]

slow down footage probably

[lime lantern]

did you record it

[wicked minnow]

ill record something more useful

just give me a lil bit

stainless turrets in h7-2

hmmm

it barely dents the shield guards so still hard to see

if anyone was wondering. not sure if this helps tho

[violet sorrel]

[lime lantern]

ok how do we know how many ticks

[wicked minnow]

hmmm

core memory just unlocked

ok not unlocked

but remembered

uhhh

wtvr

ill try something with aspd

when i tested earlier with whishlash, the aspd made her last hit fire exactly 1 spark

[lime lantern]

u could try steal aspd so u only have 1 set of sparks

[wicked minnow]

the idea was that her s3 cancelled before she can get the rest of her sparks out

so only 1 spark was around

[lime lantern]

o

[wicked minnow]

like the 10th hit

only 1 spark was around

ill try it out

hopefully this is more promising

recorded on phone so no funky music 😔

why is the quality so low

[lime lantern]

discodrd

delcorrd

discord

[serene hornet]

Looks normal to me
Is my phone that potato?

[wicked minnow]

@lime lantern this is the best you'll get

[lime lantern]

am i tripping

i count 4 ticks

[wicked minnow]

there's 1 tick on the turret itself

[lime lantern]

so yea

looks like 5

[wicked minnow]

damn

😭

[lime lantern]

unfortunate

[lime lantern]

uhh

i may just be blind idk

have someone else double check

[violet sorrel]

why would you guys count the tick

[lime lantern]

cause we need to know how many ticks one ball can do

in theory its 6 but in practice its 5

[violet sorrel]

[elder flume]

if you want a longer boss theres Sui

just a matter of can you bounce it

[tired relic]

we have anything yet?

[wicked minnow]

it's 6 ticks

just checked again

used nvidia shadowplay 4k and maxed the bitrate

5 ticks on boss + 1 tick from the turret

[sly drift]

I hate Joklumarkar so much

[lime lantern]

oh

ok so how tf did the tiles spread so fucking fast

[violet sorrel]

use roadblock to block the spread (iirc)

[lime lantern]

i did 😭

[violet sorrel]

you didn't

[lime lantern]

it started from bottom right and then suddenly just went straight to lemuen

[lime lantern]

where should i be placing the roadblocks

[tired relic]

err

sudden change of topic

[violet sorrel]

i do mid right, with bait

[tired relic]

🤧

[lime lantern]

🥹

im just skill issuing

let me be

[tired relic]

this stage can be done with just logos and mlynar

lol

[lime lantern]

where

🥹

[tired relic]

wait

[lime lantern]

is it logos s2

cause i dont have that masteried

[tired relic]

https://youtu.be/Tz-2nVnjdRE?si=We50zZuJ-RERwDpS

[lime lantern]

[tired relic]

we lost a real one

🤧

[foggy grove]

bet trag can just solo

roadblock stage be like

💤

[lime lantern]

yes

he can

in 2 hours

[tired relic]

ive seen trag duo

[lime lantern]

and i dont feel like doing that

its been done before but

[tired relic]

but youre too lazy

[lime lantern]

yes

2 hours

[tired relic]

:realmad:

[lime lantern]

so instead i spend 3 hours making a solution

obviously

[violet sorrel]

time to watch eckogen

[tired relic]

just for your information

[lime lantern]

oh hell no why am i being gated by pots now

[tired relic]

i havent done the h stages of last 3 chapters

🏃

too leizi

[lime lantern]

damazti h stages

[foggy grove]

just krill

[tired relic]

oh i did those

[violet sorrel]

yu will solve the problem

[tired relic]

chapter 12

[violet sorrel]

[lime lantern]

when i get yu sure

[tired relic]

from chapter 13 onwards

[lime lantern]

my squad can kill

just not block tho

[tired relic]

use pioneer

[violet sorrel]

fake civi problem

[tired relic]

forgot to censor

[lime lantern]

i think its like

h12-1?

agitators spawn way left on opposite ends

p annoying

[tired relic]

whats your squad looking like

i keep forgetting

[sly drift]

No fking chance dude. Any battle in Floor 5 is unbelievable

[lime lantern]

so is this just gonna take 3 years

[tired relic]

you can use the roadblocks to smartly isolate the cages

on both side

ez win

[lime lantern]

i am yeah

[tired relic]

you have 10 slots

[lime lantern]

i skill issued the retreat tho

[tired relic]

[lime lantern]

rip exu and necrass

[tired relic]

lol

[lime lantern]

for some reason my pause button wasnt working

[tired relic]

sweaty fingers

[lime lantern]

thats my excuse

[tired relic]

youre slop!

[lime lantern]

[foggy grove]

you don't even need pause button
just eyeball the hp gauge and tap your op to slow it down

[smoky blaze]

why you are trying to copy khant clear? are you trying to do smth here?

[foggy grove]

just nuke and watch the coocon animation

[smoky blaze]

Ye

That squad could easily ended the stage in 3 min

[tired relic]

khant clear was just a mention

nothing else

[lime lantern]

well shit one tile escaped

[tired relic]

haha

[foggy grove]

[lime lantern]

im not even

im just copying the roadblock position

the tile containment

[smoky blaze]

I mean, you could try to delete the cocoon too if you want

[lime lantern]

you can ?

[smoky blaze]

Yep

[lime lantern]

o how

[smoky blaze]

With saga s2

Basically the same tactic.

Put your ops in the cocoon. Then use saga to free them

But make sure last hit with her s2 skill not her basic attack

[tired relic]

with saga

[lime lantern]

let me just not skill issue this time

[tired relic]

🥹

[lime lantern]

🥹

[lime lantern]

true

i just couldnt figure out her cocoon attack timing

damn patriot is kinda useless without his spear

[tired relic]

they have nerfed stats

[smoky blaze]

Use saga, lul. No timing. Since you have 5s execute duration

[tired relic]

iirc

[smoky blaze]

Retreat both in those 5s

[lime lantern]

i mean still, but i can just move him around freely

[tired relic]

patriot is tired atp

[lime lantern]

rage baited

also i dont have saga

[tired relic]

every new op showcase, is5, and now risk

yep, borrow saga instead of doing it with your own squad

[lime lantern]

uhh yea nayone have her

[tired relic]

that was sarcasm

🤧

[smoky blaze]

It just a compliment since you cant find the right timing

[lime lantern]

true

[smoky blaze]

Nuking is still the no.1 option

[tired relic]

just do it after some time

it wont go anywhere

reset is always good

[lime lantern]

Ohhh

the tile leaked because leizi random strikes

[violet sorrel]

[lime lantern]

truly a moment

wait

trag can still summon cats when stunned

i can sacrifice him

[smoky blaze]

the cat has a mind on its own.

miss christine doesn't need trag

[serene hornet]

People need cat

But people doesn’t choose cat

Cat chooses people

[lime lantern]

???

what

why did it spread what

😭

[pearl compass]

Dunno, guess you did fucked it up.

[foggy grove]

👨‍⚖️

[lime lantern]

she used it on the same moment trag freed myrtle

🤦

[pearl compass]

[lime lantern]

eh its fine

30 minutes of rawdogging the dr and it clears

thank goodness its not a time gated boss

[pearl compass]

It actually is, just this timegate is weird and can be easily cheezed in this stage.

[lime lantern]

what

what's the timegate

[pearl compass]

Amount of sealed tiles.

[lime lantern]

o yea its not a hard timegate

just blocke doff the tiles

[pearl compass]

When reached - immediate -3 BaseHP.

[lime lantern]

[sly drift]

Alright.. so, about new Leizi.

Compared to mlynar, how huge/little is the difference if Leizi can get all the stacks from the tiles.

Also... Does Leizi S3 damage in narrowed area/Ideal tiles better than Mlynar S3

Maybe someone can drop that graph thing

[shrewd fractal]

bruh i can't do fm-4 challenge mode

idk why but none of those youtube guides work, i always get fucked by the fatass rats

how do yall do it

[pearl compass]

Damage.

[shrewd fractal]

i should have enough bc i'm using the same ops as the guides at the same levels

but they trample all over my blockers anyway

[pearl compass]

Then use more.

[violet sorrel]

borrow.

[shrewd fractal]

i alr did bruh

come on

[foggy grove]

what's your squad looks like and what did you borrow

[elder flume]

borrow Feater S2M3 frfr

[ornate stone]

Maybe thats where kelshey went

Into monsters bellay

😛😛😛

[shrewd fractal]

i tried borrowing gladiia (bc a guide used her) and ling and....uhh idk who else i forgot

[ornate stone]

Courier over just regular myrtle? Idk what guide ur on but just generally yk

What r u having most trouble with is it the big rats

[teal moon]

no way lol

[shrewd fractal]

i wasnt using him for this stage, i just bring my whole team every time no matter what

[teal moon]

there was like zero reasons to do it 🥹

[shrewd fractal]

yes

[lime lantern]

but now we know the balls actuall ytick 6 times

🥹

[ornate stone]

I see you dont have a ton of burst damage so maybe just putting ulpi S2 to camp big rats might help

[lime lantern]

how else to get total dmg from any tile config

🥹

[shrewd fractal]

you mean put him on the left instead of holding 1 of the 2 lanes in the middle??

[lime lantern]

the people need to know where exactly to use leizi s3
"x walls" how far away?

[shrewd fractal]

then what about when multiple fatass rats come out at once

[lime lantern]

cause 3 high ground but 1 block gap is shit dmg

[ornate stone]

Yeah, cus the two middle lanes are just squishy bugs

I bet just defenders and healers would be fine because it isnt too much damage from there besides water

[shrewd fractal]

ok so what about the bottom lane where all the invisible slugs are, do i just do what i've been doing and put gladiia in 2nd lane facing down

[elder flume]

you can just change Kroos to another 3block
Saria use S1

[shrewd fractal]

uhhh i dont think i even have another 3 block lmao

[elder flume]

do u need Glad tho

does Ulpi even die

if he doesnt die then bring AoE to handle bottom

[ornate stone]

The invis rats?

[shrewd fractal]

idk slugs or rats

i forgot

[ornate stone]

Arent u using silver for that

Cus invis detect

[shrewd fractal]

i feel like he will tbh

[foggy grove]

ulpi doesn't die
dirt water heal him

[shrewd fractal]

really?? damn i'll try then

[shrewd fractal]

good idea smh i'm stupid

[elder flume]

840 atk every 3s

[ornate stone]

Pompeii but environmental

[shrewd fractal]

ye i'm just afraid ulpi gonna get nuked by the fatass rats lmao

[elder flume]

just put a healer lol

[ornate stone]

Ya my suggestion is just try to burst it cus you prob have all your opps to choke up the mid of map

Idk tho cus im spoiled by premium team

[shrewd fractal]

idk why guides always use either premium low op afk or 3 star poverty team

it's so hard to follow them bc of this

[ornate stone]

Well 3rd world country team makes it easy for noobs to sub in for anything better they have

[noble pewter]

just use upgrades of the poverty team wdym

[shrewd fractal]

yeah until it's a stage with dp starvation

[elder flume]

vids are made with views in mind

no one will put a stage vid of their own regular gameplay

at best you get a 6 hours livestream of their progress

[teal moon]

how? I tested it and it only ticked 5 times

unless I'm schizo

[lime lantern]

#strategy message

[lime lantern]

idk im going shizo too

who knows, is it 5 or 6

and apparently theres an 8 frame delay between each current too

[elder flume]

Ulpi last

[teal moon]

man, I was pretty sure I coutned right

[tired relic]

isnt one hp drain from her own attack

[lime lantern]

my simulation isnt reaching 6 ticks either

[lime lantern]

did the video show 5 or 6 i really have no idea atp

[lime lantern]

no idea

come to think of it im not actually reaching 6 ticks in simulation

[teal moon]

gonna ask shileds later

[lime lantern]

or maybe i didnt see it let me hceck again

but yea idk how useful this is , altho 180k st damage seems pretty nice

[ornate stone]

Who how did u make this

Its so cool

[elder flume]

maparknights

[ornate stone]

Sounds very convenient

[lime lantern]

actually yeah no im only reaching 5 ticks

[elder flume]

tomimi.dev is better for IS but sadly only IS

[lime lantern]

who knows what fuckery goes down with frame rounding

if we can get red numbers that would be much better

[frigid frigate]

how to defeat mandragora with this team

[ornate stone]

You have visadel you can do this man

I believe in you

Does anyone have any experience with Lin in IS

[lime lantern]

Point wisadel at mandragora

Break pillar with yato

Kaboom

[ornate stone]

This is p much the whole tutorial

[frigid frigate]

actually do i need blocker for the idea?

[lime lantern]

Alternatively: Point wis'adel and mlynar at mandragora

DOne

[ornate stone]

Zuo le to solo the right side I think but idk if blocker is super needed

[elder flume]

Yato S2
Shu S3
Reed S2
Ely S1

[ornate stone]

I rlly like her skin and want to pull and use her but if shes totally useless then that sucks

Highground tank and all

[scarlet fulcrum]

He clowned dirty water yea

[ornate stone]

Do you think the water turns red cus of pollution or enemies are on menstrual cycle

[violet sorrel]

[pearl compass]

🥹

I just fucking opened this channel

[violet sorrel]

throw pillar at her and blast her

[pearl compass]

What the fuck

[violet sorrel]

[shrewd fractal]

nice

TIL ulpi likes to stand in sewage

[glass monolith]

Meanwhile Flametail dodges water

[pearl compass]

Dirty Water does Arts damage

[sly drift]

Do we draft Ulpian for IS4

There are morbilion amount of drones every single map

[serene hornet]

Long live ulpianus

[pearl compass]

No.

Banhammer Deers will breach him in a seconds.

Maybe with Gladiia might survive very longer, but I doubt.

[sly drift]

Yea.. I bet it lmao.
Probably three tap him

I took mlynar

For mlynar

[violet sorrel]

[spice mortar]

Sash better 😔

[void terrace]

If i take both leizi and leizi alter in my squad

Will she gain trust twice as fast....

[pearl compass]

Yes

Since trust pool is one the same

[void terrace]

Damn

Super speed trust farm time

[vital vessel]

leizi alter get the bonus but normal leizi doesn't

[somber falcon]

both has pretty high hit count, so shouldn't be too much of a difference on that part

[sly drift]

For fk sake mate. Why the hell rng keep fking me on the last 4 runs

No chance?
This with only 11 garbage collectibles

Practically relicless

[narrow pendant]

How tf did u manage to only get 11 relics

[sly drift]

Idk lmfao.. I just normally pass through normal route. And here we are.

Foldartar is so trash btw. Can't get shi

[wicked minnow]

bro

wdym normal route

[narrow pendant]

Is bro not doing any boskys or ems

[pearl compass]

Big Rookie Blunder

ALWAYS.
DO.
EMERGENCIES.
(at least those who won't kill you at spot)

[crisp bolt]

Bro didn't bosky 🥀

[sly drift]

My bad G.
I was blinded by Wish Fulfilled.

[sly drift]

This was me on the same run before this screen.

Shit went wild im ngl

How the hell ppl win this even with enough relic (Normal amount) anyway.

Map layout is absolute cancer

[narrow pendant]

Maybe do more fights so you have actual good drafts bestie

🤞

[glass monolith]

Clownslayer, start digging snow

[leaden sierra]

It's not even the map design for me, it's the freeze drones and spiders

[teal moon]

is5 truly did irreparable dmg

🥹

[glass monolith]

Is3 damaged me so hard I still didn't truly start is4/5

[sly drift]

Well yes.. map design include what inside it. Everyone is freezing

[crisp bolt]

Except why would you forgo bosky for wish fullfilled in is5 :realmad:

[teal moon]

is5 so braindead that you also become braindead

[wicked minnow]

nowadays there's units that trivialize this map a lot

tragodia prevents the boss from ever attacking while using s2 cat to help map wide

gnosis deals with the spiders due to IS mod almost specifically designed for this stage

[sly drift]

Yea.. I'm thinking Yato, Tragodia

Lemuen

[wicked minnow]

well yeah mainly tragodia

[teal moon]

time to send Fib ici relicless male only clear

[wicked minnow]

so real

but yeah trag eliminates the threat from the boss

[sly drift]

Mlynar is still one of the best in this map too prob

I will try to get Trag, Ines, Mly, Lemuen, Ros, Exu, Ejya next time

And probably Leizi or some shi

Oh yea.. Leizi is definitely peak pick because she won't be targeted off skill by Samivilin

And S3 against big enemy lmfaoo

[shrewd fractal]

bruh i cant believe it

i did a more minimalist version of this strat

and i borrowed an extra 3 block

idk how but fuze literally soloed the fatass rats himself, ulpi did nothing but clean up the smol ones

i tried specter too and turns out she's worse than fuze, wtf

[elder flume]

you use Specter to stall not to lanehold

[shrewd fractal]

huh??? why is a centurion meant to stall

[elder flume]

class means nothing

only kit matters

[shrewd fractal]

wtf

[elder flume]

well technically class matters for when theres class ban restrictions

[shrewd fractal]

go home ak, you're drunk

[elder flume]

and module missions

[foggy grove]

fuze has aspd so he clean up trash pretty fast

but his dph stinks

[shrewd fractal]

tbh i dont think she was all that good at stalling either, she needed like 2x the healing fuze needed lmao

[elder flume]

she gets good when enemy does 7160 damage per attack

[teal moon]

or IS drafting

[teal moon]

he's right, you don't care about classes but about the role the operator is fulfilling

[shrewd fractal]

apparently I'm shit at using the right op for the situation bc i was like...hmm aint no way a 5 star can do this better than a 6 star (sorry fuze i shouldve had faith in you)

[teal moon]

just see the lord archetype and you'll see how basically everyone is doing a different thing

[shrewd fractal]

isnt lord just "jack of all trades, master of none" lol

[elder flume]

thats
basically all 6 stars

[teal moon]

[shrewd fractal]

[teal moon]

that's why I said don't be so hung up on archetype/classes

every 6* having 2 talents and 3 skills will do what hg will say they do

[shrewd fractal]

welp lesson learned

[teal moon]

they have so many possibility that saying "centurion --> laneholding" doesn't work

it's too limiting

[shrewd fractal]

anyway thx for the big brain strat, never thought fuze could have a use in an annoying stage

[sly drift]

Is your Spectre underleveled or something

[foggy grove]

also it's because you use the worse ulpi skill

[shrewd fractal]

not mine, someone else's

e2 70 iirc

i think it's just no mod + stuck at sl7 bc it wasnt a friend

[shrewd fractal]

is s2 worse??

[foggy grove]

yes,it's just lazy afk skill

with s3 you just stun the rat and kill

[shrewd fractal]

i was worried i'd time it wrong and they'd come when he's off skill tbh

but if i use s2 and put him on the top just before the 1st rat spawns then he'll alr have it up

anyway it worked so eh

[sly drift]

It's simple stage to begin with

Is this your first time playing water rat event?

[exotic grove]

what stage are they stuck on? one of the shu stages?

[sly drift]

Stage 4

[exotic grove]

FM-4?

or the shu event 4

[sly drift]

Dude need to prepare even harder on stage 7

Current event

[exotic grove]

oh lol
yeah stage 7 is infinitely more annoying

[sly drift]

Actually hardest on this event

[exotic grove]

idk how to clear 7CM without blasting healer and using all my units like FRD

[sly drift]

You basically need to stall the fat creature (Then kill them at once at the very end) and never let the scary creature drink red water.

Actually the key of the stage

[exotic grove]

wait really lmfao I've been intentionally making them drink the red water to purify it

[sly drift]

Killing the fat creature one by one will blight the water really quickly.

[sly drift]

That works better if you bring someone who can pierce through their max stacked defense though.

[exotic grove]

I used ascalon and blazealt with leizi on tbagging duty in case one slips through then mon3 and silence alt on healing duty

ascalon died halfway through so swapped with yu for teleport

[sly drift]

Leizi Tbagging is crazy work

I still can't wrap my head on why Red water kills Leizi but she immune to Nethersea

[exotic grove]

I think the sewage stinks too much and she gets sick from the smell

[worn root]

take off is fucking weird man

[exotic grove]

yeah lmao actually I don't even need leizi to clear
mon3, ascalon, and ines mog this stage

[narrow pendant]

Me, when strong 6* can beat an easy stage

[exotic grove]

yes, that's what I said

[narrow pendant]

[exotic grove]

are people not allowed to make statements around you or something

[narrow pendant]

Acting like im actively shitting on you

[exotic grove]

grow up dude

[vocal leaf]

if you mess with fredi, you mess with me

[wicked minnow]

if you mess with vasallo, you mess with me

[narrow pendant]

[teal moon]

he was just making some sarcasm, no need to take it personally

and it is kinda funny the surprise that three meta ops can clear a simple stage

[hazy sinew]

you mess with shileds shileds gets messed up frfr

[wicked minnow]

[hazy sinew]

wait no dont cry

ill protect you 😔

[teal moon]

don't worry shileds, I got your back

[exotic grove]

just got annoyed because every single time this guy shows up he's making a snide, sarcastic comment
it gets old

[worn root]

managed to clear fm-s-1 with leizi alt's s1

[undone jolt]

J-t-8 has given me a pretty bad reality check, i suck at this game

I am trying, but my exusiai alter cannot deal with the first phase of talulah, surfer and cantabille do not have enough redeploy time, the serpent when it reaches their second phase freaking annihilates my squad as a bomberman, then i also have to deal with the push without any ground operators to block the enemies, etc

This stage is literally making me crashout and want to but several drugs, crush them, mix them in alcohol, get a syringe, and inject that shid to my veins

[pearl breach]

Thats the fun lies. You need to understand to counter the stage mechanic

[elder flume]

add a Gravel

30s redeploy against a 19s cycle isnt enough

[undone jolt]

I tried, but it doesn't matter because when talulah dies, my ulpianus and saria die, and then my medics

Bc of the flames

And my tanks are not tanky enough

And i don't have enough lmd to do shit

[elder flume]

Sussuro S2 alone heals enough against fireball

[undone jolt]

Here is the thing, her heal is singles target, and saria will die, leaving me with no way to act against the push

Bc of the duration of that

I tried using his skill 2 at the beggining

But the wolves just don't allow him to go to talulah

I meant skill 3

Ulpianus skill 3

So that he can kill talulah first phase

[elder flume]

does it matter tho

[pearl breach]

You just need to drop a body when saria goes low

Also, dont spread your units

Use only 2 lanes at best

[undone jolt]

My healers won't heal enough

But imma try again

Let me see this strat

Imma have to swallow my pride and use wisadel

[pearl breach]

Wis literally do nothing here

[undone jolt]

But this is just a reality check that i suck

[pearl breach]

Your problem is a healing issue. Not killing talulah

[undone jolt]

I am using silence and ptilopsis at level 50 both with skill 7

Alongside sussuro

[foggy grove]

sussuro is enough
you just don't want to overspread the healing

[pearl breach]

That was plenty of heal tbh.

[undone jolt]

How am i supposed to instantly deploy units

I try the pause tech

But i can't slide the units in pause

[foggy grove]

like this for example
you can undeploy some people to lessen the healing burden
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1kwVjzAEuM/?spm_id_from=333.337.search-card.all.click

[elder flume]

ngl this might be enough for the stage with Ulpi S3

[foggy grove]

ye ulpi is pretty strong here

burn just heal him
can refresh with s3

[elder flume]

you have Trag Ray to keep Tal from moving

if youre lucky theres enemies coming during fireball then Reed2 could

[undone jolt]

Pretty good strat thx

[undone jolt]

May i ask how u got my roaster?

So, what would you advice?

[elder flume]

just a regular Discord search ?

[undone jolt]

Well thank you

So what is the deployment order and strat

[elder flume]

Bili vids are great to follow if you want the easiest step by step

[undone jolt]

And do i need level 50 amiya elite 2?

[elder flume]

just E2 1 is enough

[undone jolt]

What is the porpuse of using her?

I see exu2 can handle the lanes

As long as her skill is active

And she can use it to make even myrtle a human shield

And that my plan is to burst talulah when she reaches the final lane

[elder flume]

Amiya is for secret ending

a requirement to bring

[undone jolt]

And i bring jaye yato and gravel to cycle to take the hits

Correct

And is myrtle or saileach more adviceable for this stage?

[elder flume]

you technically can just bring Gravel since Ulpi will keep baiting fire

[undone jolt]

With his skill 3 shenanigans?

And does ulpianus need skill module 3?

I meant module 3

[elder flume]

no

Saileach better ig

[undone jolt]

Ok

Imma find out the rest

[undone jolt]

May i ask when do i use sussuro's skills

When do i deploy silverash

And if i need to deploy amiya

@elder flume

[pearl breach]

Mikz, you have e2 ulpi and exu?

[undone jolt]

Yes, both with module

[foggy grove]

sussuro can only use her skill twice so just save each for the fireball waves

amiya doesn't need to be deployed

[pearl breach]

Do you mind with borrowed clear?

[undone jolt]

Who do i borrow?

[pearl breach]

Just shu

[undone jolt]

And where and when do i deploy her

And what skill do i use?

[pearl breach]

Wait. My video is decompressing

CM JT-8-3. So it should work with normal too

The key is. Dont kill talu when shu skill not ready.

Can swap between saria - gummy. If one of them ded

[undone jolt]

My cantabille is not well built enough

[pearl breach]

No need

She just there to bait a couple dp at the begin and killing the flower

[undone jolt]

Ok, but your ulpianus was level 69 and barely survived talulah first phase

[pearl breach]

But yours have mod lol

[undone jolt]

Well i can try

[pearl breach]

Talulah burn is actually healing him more

Esp with module

Dont forget to bring anything that helps you

[odd forge]

Quick question

About purple car alter

I should using S1 or S3

[wicked minnow]

you already got answered :shusmug:
#help message

[ripe trellis]

what is a purple car alter

[plucky grove]

jessicat???

[foggy grove]

how about blue car alter

[plucky grove]

i can't think of any other purple cars

but jessicat has gradient hair

[vital vessel]

dumb nickname

[scarlet fulcrum]

welp some ppl have color blind so

[odd forge]

Nah that's not answer.

Demn, rather answer funny nickname than my question

[scarlet fulcrum]

thats the answer technically

[foggy grove]

because people don't know who tf is purple car

[odd forge]

I might have colorblind

[violet sorrel]

[odd forge]

Alright, back to topic

[scarlet fulcrum]

Just say the operator code name they even have real name too

[odd forge]

Car

[scarlet fulcrum]

Wrong game

[maiden hound]

it's probably a '18 charger srt hellcat in that fancy shade of purple

[odd forge]

Crybaby car

[maiden hound]

what's the color? midnight? forgot

[scarlet fulcrum]

Can Purple car = popukar

[violet sorrel]

[odd forge]

It looks purple for me

[scarlet fulcrum]

Just the gradient

[maiden hound]

we got to the point :ya:

[civic bear]

fr?

[violet sorrel]

midnight purple

[scarlet fulcrum]

EN hand till die

[odd forge]

Purple is purple

[violet sorrel]

[sly drift]

The orb just pass through the wall dawg

Im throwing myself

[wicked minnow]

how does s2 treat the walls?

oh wtf

it ignores them as well

sheeesh

[austere skiff]

augh

i need help in grand bazaar

im able to get to 375 enemies but like

either the hall statues kill everything or the unicycle toys kill everything

https://www.krooster.com/u/des

this is my current roster

[unkempt lintel]

how ur current set up in anni?

[prisma elk]

Am I seeing this correctly or you don't have Ethan built or even in your account, or im blind

[unkempt lintel]

also deym e2 r6 grace may suggest something

[austere skiff]

she’s sl7 now i didnt update my krooster

[austere skiff]

[gusty fiber]

if ur open to borrow, ascalon + blocker just solves 99% of the middle lane problems

[austere skiff]

no i need this for auto

[prisma elk]

I would recommend Ethan to get rid of every green tile so the unicycles just can't do the ranged attack

[gusty fiber]

oh ic.

[austere skiff]

im using trag to kill off the carts the moment they spawn with his cat

[unkempt lintel]

hmmm its understandable if u cant auto current anni given ur roster atm but ig u do u

[gusty fiber]

sniping them with lemu as they spawn is one way

[unkempt lintel]

but yeh that ascalon support would be a big breather to that run

[austere skiff]

i need lem to kill off the bottom guys

[austere skiff]

ive already 400/400’d it with wis

[prisma elk]

I see a possible scenario where they can with Ethan s1 since iirc 375 spams green tiles with the drones, if he can get rid of the green tiles the unicycles are pretty much sitting ducks

[austere skiff]

i can kill off most of the drones with trag’s cat when they spawn

[unkempt lintel]

ohhh.... so its specifically just wanting to auto

[prisma elk]

Oh so how is the unicycles killing you?

Iirc they need the green tiles to um, actually hit hard

[austere skiff]

green tiles just give global range

they are close enough to kill off the people defending right side

and then shit hits the fan from there

[prisma elk]

Ohh, I see

Can you send atleast a screenshot of the set up prior to 375 disaster?

So we can um, see what we can work with

[unkempt lintel]

yeh actually this so the peeps can improve the set up... coz 375 means u have actually decent set up, just need tweakings

[austere skiff]

hold on gimme a sec

[unkempt lintel]

[gusty fiber]

prob setup all ur healing for them and get silverash/leizi2 to kill them asap

[austere skiff]

we shall ignore that typo

[prisma elk]

It is commendable to be able to actually run 375 with just your built ops rn, not a lot of people can do that nowadays

Like even with tragodia it's still impressive to know how to properly use them

[odd forge]

[austere skiff]

I put myrtle in gummy’s spot early on

[gusty fiber]

e1 lv60 gummy gavial perfumer while afk seems to be able to survive the rush, so if you setup healing and deploy order right it should be pretty safe.

[austere skiff]

until I get around 175 dp

[austere skiff]

@gusty fiber @prisma elk @unkempt lintel

[prisma elk]

Hmm, so once 375 hits tragodia, silence, and kroos just evaporates?

[austere skiff]

gbearer and cuora evaporate

then everyone else evaporates

[gusty fiber]

you should swap gummy cuora, maybe move back leizi2 next to silence, and have cuora in front of blue block instead of SA.

[austere skiff]

wouldn’t that like

[odd forge]

[austere skiff]

reduce leizi’s s2 range

[prisma elk]

Oh, hm

[gusty fiber]

you dont rly need all her range tbh, just need the enemy to die

[austere skiff]

leizi can survive perfectly fine without a healer

even while her skill is on

[prisma elk]

Did you put gummy there to heal leizi off skill?

[austere skiff]

no

healing sash mainly

[prisma elk]

Does he really need the healing from experience?

[austere skiff]

when I swapped gummy and cuora sash got obliterated by the hall statues

[prisma elk]

Hm

[prisma elk]

Who's your 12th slot?

Since Myrtle is your 11th, who's the 12th one?

[austere skiff]

oh right click

honestly they’re like placed once in a blue moon

[sly drift]

What's Gracebearer up to

[prisma elk]

Hm

[smoky blaze]

Chilling after a long hard day at work

[sly drift]

Grace has crazy dps I wonder if she can do something useful. Just wondering

[smoky blaze]

Im wondering the same thing too.

Also what happens if you put trag against the big mummy.

[austere skiff]

leizi kills it fine

[sly drift]

I swear you must block top lane enemy before they reach Top right

Can Trag solo them?

[gusty fiber]

smthn like this should work fine I think @austere skiff
honestly SA could sit in deploy and wait till u need him instead of deploying him anywhere

[austere skiff]

why sa facing left

[smoky blaze]

Spreading the dps. He got 3 tiles range on the side

[gusty fiber]

cause he can reach in front of cuora and also in front of gummy, but like I said prob just put him in deploy

[prisma elk]

I would also say if you're not using click at all, just have the old man sankta, just in case you need the extra time to tank things

Since he's your other defender built

[austere skiff]

wait yeah that could work

[prisma elk]

Goodluck on your attempt

[sly drift]

One thing weird about this whole strat is that this stage revolve around beating green tiles using high hit count.

But.... Man didn't even consider it during crafting squad

[smoky blaze]

It just controlling the top right side

[prisma elk]

Idk how tragodias s2 interacts w the tiles, I just assume it's not a problem for them lol

[austere skiff]

I don’t know how the tiles work aside from sharing hp with connected tiles

[prisma elk]

Actually?

[austere skiff]

All I know it

[prisma elk]

So you're not clearing it?

[austere skiff]

buff enemy and debuff my ops

[austere skiff]

I am

[smoky blaze]

Each tile takes 10 hits * how many green tiles.

[prisma elk]

Oh, so you do manage to clear the tiles?

[austere skiff]

yeah

also how exactly does ethan help with clearing them out

[prisma elk]

S1 deals dot damage, Ethan hits like, all around him + one tile in front, so that's 8 tiles hit with dot all at once, and his s1 is a passive to infi duration at deployment

[austere skiff]

I don’t think I even have Ethan

[smoky blaze]

Ethan s1 is damage overtime.
For example. If he hits 3 tiles in a single basic attack. That equals to 3 * his dot tick on every hit.

[austere skiff]

yeah no I don’t have Ethan

[prisma elk]

You don't have him in your krooster so I guess so, you really should get him, he's somehow one of the few 4 stars I regularly use with all my nukes and shit

[austere skiff]

how do I get him

[prisma elk]

Red certs shop

[austere skiff]

aight

[smoky blaze]

e0lvl1 works as long as you can keep him alive

[austere skiff]

I don’t have an issue with dealing with the tiles in the first place tho

I can clear them fine

[prisma elk]

Imo he's my honorary 6 star, his s1 gets used once in a blue moon but solves on hit based enemies but quite literally solves it entirely, and s2 just stalls like crazy with very good uptime

[prisma elk]

I would say use Sankta as the 12th slot if the tiles ain't an issue tho

[austere skiff]

aight

[smoky blaze]

Whats your issue then??
My random guess is you start leaking at 370?

[prisma elk]

But do make sure to get Ethan, I'm surprised you haven't learned how op he is lmao, literally my savior when I started playing, cuz he can stall enemies Im not supposed to be able to beat yet lmao

[austere skiff]

yeah

[austere skiff]

do I really need Ethan if I have trag

[prisma elk]

Surprisingly they synergize well...

[smoky blaze]

I knew it. Did your unit get killed by unicycle? Or smth else?

[austere skiff]

that and the hall statues

[prisma elk]

Ethan binds them, tragodia makes em walk back, Ethan groups them up, tragodia makes the cat explode on everyone

[odd forge]

[smoky blaze]

So top right and middle lane.

[odd forge]

[violet sorrel]

[austere skiff]

one thing i dont get is

why leizi2 there

and not in the middle or smth

[smoky blaze]

Try like this

Swap ansel with ur silence below krooster facing bot

Myrtle got passive regen but you need to keep her alive with silence drone when necessary

[austere skiff]

alr

wait myrtle has passive regen?

what

also whats the placement order

[gusty fiber]

she gets healing there, and she doesnt need all the range, she just needs to hit the enemy

[austere skiff]

alr

[austere skiff]

@smoky blaze

[gusty fiber]

its her e2 talent

[austere skiff]

should i e2 her

Ive been thinking abt it

[gusty fiber]

no

[austere skiff]

oh

[gusty fiber]

e1lv1 is her best investment

[gusty fiber]

u prob dont need to copy the exact thing he did, you'll have alot more healing w/ptilo and silence

[austere skiff]

aight

[smoky blaze]

myrtle > cuora > SA

lemuen > ptilo > trag
krooster > leizi > silence
and gummy last

[gusty fiber]

its already very safe if you deploy gummy last, as long as you place ur healers well. ig you havent attempted it since asking ?

[austere skiff]

not rlly just woke up

it’d be a viable strat to just immediately nuke the second wave of drones with trag’s cat right

[smoky blaze]

The drones still drop those green tile. Better use the cat to clean it instead.

Also, just bring whatever necessary.

[odd forge]

[smoky blaze]

For example. You can swap myrtle with better ops once you get around 100+ dp

[austere skiff]

yeah i was planning on replacing her with sankta

once i got enough do

dp

[austere skiff]

ok i had WAYYYYY too many close calls in this but in the end I was able to 400/400 it

thanks

[smoky blaze]

Np

[sly drift]

Is this how to correctly clear this puzzle stage Mine looks completely different

[austere skiff]

augh

any tips for SSS jungle floor 3

the small bugs keep on leaking and I fucking perish

[pearl compass]

Kill trash more effective
Use cheaper units on the start

[austere skiff]

[foggy grove]

more aoe

[austere skiff]

the low deployment slots is the main problem

also trag’s cat randomly decides to just

disappear

for 0 reason

same for silence’s drone

[pearl compass]

Wait

[foggy grove]

your hand is full

[pearl compass]

You deny whole SSS system

To put ops over ops on the field?

[austere skiff]

I don’t know how to fully utilise the equipment system

[foggy grove]

did you watch the tutorial?

[austere skiff]

yeah

[pearl compass]

HOW DO YOU MANAGE TO PASS 2 LEVELS WITHOUT KNOWING THAT BRUH

[austere skiff]

trag lem and leizi2

[pearl compass]

GO BACK TO THE TUTORIAL

🥹

smh smh

[austere skiff]

no matter what gacha game I play I cant escape reading

[dapper hedge]

All you need for SSS is just 1-2 super carry the rest doesnt matter much
You keep stacking cheap sniper/caster/vg/guard to make ultrabuffed op and win
Get plenty of supporter to cycle your ops on hands

[odd forge]

Neat, horn

[sly drift]

This young black man is crazy bro. He can't keep getting away with spreading his white liquid like that (Mercury Alchemy unit), The boss literally had to restrain him

[vocal leaf]

hmm almost got it

[hollow furnace]

Benny should I use this

[foggy grove]

she is too expensive for what she does

just use cuora tbh

[hollow furnace]

When can I pull an actually usable 6 star

[remote perch]

I mean she's fine
If you don't have anything else to build i'd rather build her

[noble pewter]

If u invest in her u can reveal invis, hit range, high def, can summon 3 block taunt unit, aoe stun, multi directional etc etc

[scarlet fulcrum]

She is fine and copable, quite tanky and bit dps as bonus

Not really optimal but usable atleast

[hollow furnace]

That doesn’t soudn bad at all

[odd forge]

Since I got her recently, I'mma build her for my new strategy

[foggy grove]

lol nara really lowered the entry for anni 3 💤

[scarlet fulcrum]

Welp logos/wis lower

[foggy grove]

i can say nara is the least effort at least
just toggle s1 and you can afk

[scarlet fulcrum]

Indeed

[maiden hound]

boss i'm afraid this isn't cn lounge

[calm eagle]

oops

wrong place

[light slate]

im stuck on 9-19 and 6-5

could someone help meee

[astral cosmos]

9-19?

thorns + jessica deal with left side

but it is true that you don't have a mandra tank

[light slate]

what is that...

[astral cosmos]

someone to stall mandragora

[light slate]

im having trouble on the right ive been doing thorns and jess on the left yea

[light slate]

i js use degenbrecher as a fast redeploy but then i die on the right lol

[astral cosmos]

degen and some stuff should take care of rightside

for mandra, well... you... yeah I highly doubt gummy + your two medics can make it

[light slate]

i have nearl and saria just not lvled?

[astral cosmos]

e2ing gummy over leveling saria

[pearl compass]

[light slate]

i js checked my depot ystd and had one of those recrutiment thingies LOL

[astral cosmos]

welp

I was about to ask about guardmiya but forgot you were on 6-5

what's your entire roster

[light slate]

thats my defenders

[astral cosmos]

[pearl compass]

Liskarm leveled

[astral cosmos]

that's what happens when the wrong choices are made

[pearl compass]

when you doing levelups yourself without asking help first

[light slate]

oh nooo

[astral cosmos]

eh well, maybe rotating between nearl + gummy + lisk, with perfumer and...uh do you not have anyone else than ansel

[light slate]

i lost my helper

[pearl compass]

You lost #help?

[astral cosmos]

oh well

[light slate]

no i had a friend back in 2024 who helped me strategize he is unfort not replying anymore

[astral cosmos]

#help is a good place to ask for advice

[light slate]

he told me 3 stars are good tho and i should keep them thats why ansels here..

[light slate]

i usually get ignored pretty quickly there :P

[astral cosmos]

yeah but sussurro doesn't cost much either and is better

[pearl compass]

well, he aint wrong about that part, tho

[astral cosmos]

you can ask again if that happens

not by the likes of spamming every five seconds but yeah if you see you got drowned just ask again

[light slate]

okie i will try, but on 6-5 im supposed to stall the enemies so they die right?

[astral cosmos]

what was 6-5 again

[pearl compass]

Yes

[light slate]

these are my guards

[astral cosmos]

oh was it the protector showcase

[light slate]

hmmmm...