full terrace
(A) Tragodia Moduleless: 530 ATK
(B) Tragodia Module Lv3: 572 ATK
(C) Max Pot Trag Moduleless: 553 ATK
(D) Max Pot Trag Module Lv3: 595 ATK
(A) 132.5 Elemental Injury
(B) 168.74 Elemental Injury
(C) 138.25 Elemental Injury
(D) 175.525 Elemental Injury
Yu: 150.15 Elemental Injury
(A) and (C) work because they are below Yu's but the case of (B) and (D) they are still above Yu's
We need Yu's Module to be like Ritualist's
Increasing Elemental Injury*
nocturne cove
i mean it is a question of if youre preparing for a siege would you rather have an impregnable castle or an artillery first
vital arrow
i mean it is a question of if youre preparing for a siege would you rather have ...
That really doesnt answer the 6 months thing
haughty flower
Increasing Elemental Injury*
Injury, you mean?
nocturne cove
it does question the basic argument
haughty flower
Or actual damage.
nocturne cove
im not talking about the 6 months
nocturne cove
it is not
vital arrow
ulpian rerun is literally right before leizialt in CN
vital arrow
yes? and why does it matter which one do you have first
vital arrow
which part
nocturne cove
castle and artillery
vital arrow
preparing for a siege?
nocturne cove
and whatever i wrote in that long ass message
vital arrow
thats not a 1:1 correlation
vital arrow
the point being, ulpian while is a good blocker that can kill stuff
is easily replacable with another blocker
leizi alt being a flexible dps, can handle enemies
both trash mobs and bosses
nocturne cove
castle has walls so it works as ulpian which is "nearly unkillable"
while still you can use archer/boulders and other stuff to defend the wall
which being ulpian damage
vital arrow
you still need to medic him which defeats the point of being 'an impregnable castle'
when he dies to literal dogs
nocturne cove
dogs dealing more than 400 damage
but how much scenario can you think those dogs can get 10 hits
vital arrow
dogs have low atk
nocturne cove
before the dog dies
vital arrow
yes on S2
vital arrow
144/216 on E1
vital arrow
you said its early game
vital arrow
and the scenario I'm talking about is E1 ulpian
nocturne cove
and the scenario I'm talking about is E1 ulpian
well
vital arrow
even on E2 it goes to 320 modless
vital arrow
420 only on mod3
spark sinew
i love the dog argument vs crushers
when it never matters
vital arrow
its less about dogs and more about the equivalent of low atk/high frequency damage
spark sinew
even giga new player can get 2 noir copies and put a defender for 14dp
spark sinew
although e1 performance for first couple 6* outside of the ones who use super new mats also never matters
vital arrow
yes ulpian is good and all, but I've never got what got people hyped about him when hes the 6th iteration of blaze
spark sinew
newbies bypass e1 phase super fast right now, even if they're clueless
vital arrow
when I can get half of a mlynar at the same cost
vital arrow
hes just a blocker with damage
spark sinew
too bad he has s3 and can actually tank bosses
nocturne cove
and when people compare leizi to mlynar
i think it is not fair
one has taunt/ other cant be targetted
mlynar is almost always better than leizi in terms of damage
vital arrow
leizi has less raw damage but more flexibility
nocturne cove
cuz yan
vital arrow
I dont get why mlynar is here again
is it because people call leizi a mlynar sidegrade? she literally is, they work the same way
she just has less damage
vital arrow
I dont get why leizi being worse than mlynar matters
vital arrow
when tequila is the second coming of jesus
nocturne cove
crusher
vital arrow
oh no hoe and ulpian does not work the same way
nocturne cove
leizi and mlynar too dont in the same way
vital arrow
hoederer doesnt have a self sustaining tool, his CC is bad, long skill cycle
nocturne cove
damage is not a source of similarity
vital arrow
actually terrible damage
nocturne cove
actually terrible damage
have you ever used s3?
vital arrow
leizi and mlynar on the other hand have similar cycle and playstyle
nocturne cove
once
vital arrow
yes S3 is terrible
nocturne cove
🙂↕️
vital arrow
one necrosis proc
nocturne cove
lol
vital arrow
over 70s
vital arrow
he is not tanking shit
smoky halo
damn 2 yappers
vital arrow
he literally dies the moment someone even remotely tanky enough goes up in his face
or just simply outranges him
nocturne cove
stun chance plus heal so uh
pearl compass
28% DR without any "GlAdiA" btw
nocturne cove
and that too
smoky halo
ulp sucks
narrow pendant
Hoe sucks too
smoky halo
hoe sucks too
narrow pendant
Now what
nocturne cove
fredi you can suck my cock
smoky halo
in is5 he is god
narrow pendant
fredi you can suck my cock
You dont have any
vital arrow
even on IS5 he needs aspd abuse to be usable
nocturne cove
jk ily
pearl compass
We just confirmed that Crushers are shit subclass.
smoky halo
typical crazy take
like "tragodia bad" from you
not krazy
pearl compass
smoky halo
show me ulp usage in relicless
foggy grove
trag sucks
narrow pendant
Youre just being a hoe cockrider
He sucks, accept that nas
full stream
fib saying tragodia sucks would be end of this server bro
smoky halo
idk sounds like a bad op
narrow pendant
nocturne cove
show me ulp usage in relicless
you are a bit late, we are talking about general gameplay
go translate doujins
smoky halo
general gameplay 🥱
spark sinew
fib saying tragodia sucks would be end of this server bro
he did it so many times
nocturne cove
bro is so brainrotted by relicless
smoky halo
🤫
spark sinew
oh, those people don't know?
smoky halo
its cos relicless is where enemies have actual stats
spark sinew
my bad
nocturne cove
bengal fox
pearl compass
But without wasting slot on Gladiia
nocturne cove
his s3 takes 50 secon
nocturne cove
youre cock
pearl compass
We tried tho
nocturne cove
bye
pearl compass
foggy grove
play maelknight and use both ril
narrow pendant
Dont use hoe cuz he suck ril
Feed hoe perma monster s2 aspd to be fine
Surely easy
pearl compass
haughty flower
Feed hoe perma monster s2 aspd to be fine
M3 s2 babysitting angle!!!
nocturne cove
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/969480432829734972/1388867470193987625/...
wont load
narrow pendant
glass monolith
if only the war wasnt going on
It is not part of that 
Get culture differenced
floral torrent
by any chance could i clear ad ex 8 with my ops if i borrow eyjaberry 
https://www.krooster.com/u/zenith16
pearl compass
Who can I use to shine without dying
Mudrock, Contrail, Iana
bleak blade
😭
pearl compass
As soon as someone dies.
spark sinew
usual strat is Yu
bleak blade
I see
pearl compass
Anyway still works
pearl compass
Ban is only tile to the right of center redbox.
Or Roberta shield also comes in handy.
pearl compass
bleak blade
Wish I got mudrock
weak gazelle
great
totally have no idea how to beat it with lateranoknights
foggy grove
he can lure the manequin to the light so even goober can tank
bleak blade
Oooh
weak gazelle
the important light are on melee tile and laterano have shit on melee :icant:
foggy grove
no multiple manequin to kill your blocker
bleak blade
Last stage is insane...
weak gazelle
perhaps, but my problem more into the choice of ops
using y0 ops would be better than lateranoknights :icant:
hmm
guess just clear it will do rather than malding this lateranoknights
foggy grove
seems doable
foggy grove
laterano has enough power to delete the boss soon
spark sinew
especially without vg
weak gazelle
less than 2 hour?
thanks but not now
bleak blade
Still working now don't think I can make it
weak gazelle
deleting boss its not the problem
the spesific enemy spawn and pathing is the issue
and very short time to stall boss is another pain in the ass
weak gazelle
ahh...
times up :icant:
queen axle
fierce tendon
hmm
guess just clear it will do rather than malding this lateranoknights
Lets just bring it back once more laterano ops release
rotund cloud
is Saga worth building?
fierce tendon
With many vanguards that has released with ines and vulpa idk spelling, shes meh now
sly drift
ahh...
times up :icant:
What niche is this supposed to
mild wind
this looks like a normal squad
because apparently bro gave up on lateranknights
bunch of DP heavy operators but their only vanguard is plume xd
dapper hedge
Exu2 is cheap vg
ebon flume
this is working but i have no idea how to do phase 3 her skill isn't killing it immediately 😭
nocturne cove
this is working but i have no idea how to do phase 3 her skill isn't killing it ...
i just used a buncha unraised ops to cosplay ethan s1 as the guy asking didnt have ethan
ebon flume
https://youtu.be/vkB753zYjcg
DUDE THANK YOU exusiai annihilated 
nocturne cove
np
sly drift
Crystalline, Sugar and Kohl?
Farmable mats is so shi
spark sinew
crystals are fine
dapper hedge
Time to farm rocks 🛌
uncut lark
Hi.
I'm trying to clear LE-8 with low rarity units and maybe a support unit. Any team comp suggestions? I know that Lee is extremely recommended for the stage but are there any other options?
cinder walrus
Is schewartz really poker markman? She do less damage than heli drop ntr knight s3
Or she do less damage than w...
full stream
schwarz doesnt even have s3
cinder walrus
What abiut stainless
full stream
idk what u expect out of her
cinder walrus
U need her s3?
full stream
most 6* needs e2 to function properly
somber falcon
idk what new class you're assigning her as, but virtually no op does good dmg on e1 40
cinder walrus
I dont have clear focus op
Considered this is what i pour resource into it already
full stream
if this is the best u have for 6* schwarz is not a bad raise
rosmontis sucks outside of IS and original W just stinks
cinder walrus
I just dont understand why she did so little damage
hollow turtle
Gonna start using the support unit,
What support unit will ez cheese carry me here?
full stream
she is e1 lvl 40🤯
cinder walrus
Also is stainless good? He buff damage
hollow turtle
my units
cinder walrus
she is e1 lvl 40🤯
And? People said e1 lvl 40 is passable
full stream
Also is stainless good? He buff damage
no, adding a dps is far better than buffing one
hollow turtle
my units
s2 has been doing me justice, but i think ima set it to s3 for the last ex stages on lemuen
glass monolith
Also is stainless good? He buff damage
He support, he supports (I know rare case for supporter class). I am not sure you currently have any units lacking his support much.
full stream
schwarz main skill is s3 idk what you expect her to do without it
somber falcon
missing half the context 
it's passable when you're in the process of raising your ops
cinder walrus
No the thing isn
I dont want to pour resource into redundant operator
I do not have resource to e2 people
hollow turtle
would using ulpi or some good early tank tanking the nukes in line flux good for support units?
full stream
she is not a terrible raise when your ops is looking like that
cinder walrus
But i have ton of resource to e1 people
somber falcon
doesn't invest
no gain
pikachu face.jpg
full stream
But i have ton of resource to e1 people
stop e1 useless trash and actually e2 things that will help you,why do u even e1 things like christine,greythroat,ayer,meteorite and fucking skadi
imagine if u use those e1 lvl 70 resources into an actual e2
🤫
cinder walrus
I just need reasonable guide not absolutely need to be perfect meta way
You know what the best meta? FKIMG ENJOY THIS GAME
I e1 them bc i like them
full stream
Number uno,stop e1 everything and e2 a serviceable op like schwarz 🤯
hollow turtle
cinder walrus
Number uno,stop e1 everything and e2 a serviceable op like schwarz 🤯
If i do that i probably gonna get tired of this game soon and realized i couldnt think my way through stage and only spam 6* operator
full stream
play IS?
full stream
who gives a fuck about piss shit gen content
cinder walrus
I guess i do
full stream
IS=intergrated strategy
rougelike mode
15 or 18 diffs each version that will truly test an op worth
glass monolith
If i do that i probably gonna get tired of this game soon and realized i couldnt...
Just don't spam 6* operators when it works 
I usually save 6* spam for late EX/S stages because my skill issue or other reasons not always allow spending hours achieving shit less brain dead way
cinder walrus
Just don't spam 6\* operators when it works <:FrankaWheeze:851187727256387634>
...
Alot of 4* 5* have familair skills too. I dont know if i want to raise similair skill ops
Infact i mostly just use 3 star ops too
glass monolith
Well you reading skills, already ahead of average man seeking help in this discord, so you know what those operators do, so you know if you already have someone doing that or it is new. Evaluation if new does any good is whole other issue 
cinder walrus
Well you reading skills, ~~already ahead of average man seeking help in this dis...
I do have problem with new class. Tank. Swordman. Markman. Healer is definitely used to it. But specialist and supporter. I barely use them. I wish to try them more but i couldnt figure a situation where i need it
I gotta make a rule now.
Have at least one type of op in squad
That way i can find a way to use it
I know alot of people loves cuora as defender but matterhorn is better than her in terms of resist art damage
Bubble would be ideal in situation where there's long range attack who gonna gun down your support and markman since she can agro
cinder walrus
Well you reading skills, ~~already ahead of average man seeking help in this dis...
I just realized only 6* op have s3
hollow turtle
I just realized only 6* op have s3
e2 ops also get unique talents or traits or upgrades
glass monolith
I just realized only 6* op have s3
Amiya is exception because main character bias (angry table slap)
smoky blaze
I do have problem with new class. Tank. Swordman. Markman. Healer is definitely ...
Specialist is a very strong class if you can find a good stage for them.
For example on the previous event, VEC C buffless.
You can use a shifter to kill all three possessed mobs at the same time with no sweat. Meanwhile if you go unga bunga at them. It takes you 3 dps ops (wis logos and ela in my case). Just to focus on killing them.
Specialists can be very OP if you know how to use it.
hollow turtle
you know, this convo is ridiculous by a large margin.
Mainly becuz u want to add difficulty to ur gamestyle.
Everyone loves difficulty and convenience.
But in this case, why are you even here asking help in #strategy @cinder walrus
smoky blaze
Imagine how many ops that exu2 replace for VEC 12 buffless
That's just a small bit of example.
cinder walrus
you know, this convo is ridiculous by a large margin.
Mainly becuz u want to ad...
Because i feel like i been using same 4 - 5* operator over and over again
glass monolith
So. I am avoiding 6* by playing same 5*s 
If you somehow play all 400 operators and spend time to finding best use for each good for you and i am not playing your mental bills
cinder walrus
Because i have kalsit sometimes i just be like. Throw her in and she already best medic and defender
Too convenience kills the fun
hollow turtle
Because i feel like i been using same 4 - 5* operator over and over again
if ur doing it out of boredom fair. But understand some stages want specific archetypes or well roles suited for that stage's mechanic.
Most of the time specialists are very useful.
And to clarify, you dont need to play the best ops to have fun in the game, its been and already proven that low rarity units work, its just harder. More micro more brainwork more time.
Also 6 stars are cool and due to higher rarity, may be even be better in its niche use or mechanic/kit, role etc.
This game is pretty fair in all its marks I think
glass monolith
Is there a guide for h8-4
There is ass horrible youtube search which might find video or not Throw Nightingale or Logos S3 or some AH/other cursed overkill squad at it
signal vector
Is there a guide for h8-4
Just logos it
Logos s3
hollow turtle
Gonna start using the support unit,
What support unit will ez cheese carry me h...
anyways
zenith raptor
There is ass horrible youtube search which might find video or not <:RedOmegaLul...
The fact i forgot yt exists shows my intelligence
uncut lark
who dafuq rec lee?
A lot of the guides on YouTube used him for LE-8. I think it's because of the Stun immunity from his Talent 2?? Not completely sure.
full stream
We are not 3 years ago bucko 
Go borrow Wis and send that mf to the afterlife to meet god
cinder walrus
There is ass horrible youtube search which might find video or not <:RedOmegaLul...
I just read stainless S1 max skills. Imagine stack with s2 schedwart
uncut lark
Go borrow Wis and send that mf to the afterlife to meet god
So do I need any other units or can Wis solo? Because the boss isn't the only enemy...
This is a low rarity + support unit clear, after all.
full stream
She should be able too or close to doing so just put your other goobers down and let her work
uncut lark
Which skill and module for an easy clear?
uncut lark
Can you select the skill of support units or is the skill locked?
ashen crow
Anybody have typhoon? I want to clea some of is3
full terrace
Dissociative Recombination rerun? 🤔
cinder walrus
If i buff markman with module and buff from warfarin. Then i activate said markman skills. Does +atk stacks?
full terrace
Yes
pearl compass
Dissociative Recombination rerun? 🤔
Priestess wants to play with you once more.
Oops
Ping again
full terrace
That was intentional and it's not funny
cinder walrus
I cannot find other buff and debuff operator i have aside from warfarin. That explode robot. And elysium...
I tried buff as much as i could but i only got 2700 atk
@glass monolith my first time trying out those debuf and buff stuff
glass monolith
I tried buff as much as i could but i only got 2700 atk
+% ATK add up, if skill has wording like "Deals X% of ATK as physical/arts" then it is additional multiplier on top of whatever you got with +%s
cinder walrus
So if one skill is +10% atk and a other is +120% atk it just cal as base dmg * +130%?
cinder walrus
+% ATK add up, if skill has wording like "Deals X% of ATK as physical/arts" then...
How do people get high burst damage in this game tho
Warfarim buff is inconsistsnt as hell...
glass monolith
People who use warf for buff used to have her look at wall or something to buff only buff target
cinder walrus
I just realized
W in this stage def is only C. And elysium -40% def doesnt make much of different
If elysium -25% on S def it would make huge dif
Well it good try
I never seriously play with push and rope too
glass monolith
How do people get high burst damage in this game tho
Modern units like Wisadel, Lemuen, Exu2 do so stupidly high damage they just delete majority of targets themselves.
For other units to burst it usually buff/debuff stacking. You don't have to nuke each enemy, if you can tank it to death everything works
#strategy message Here me using Elysium Warf and bard inspire buff + event provided fragile from white smoke to bully Eyja's delusion animal god 
cinder walrus
I feel like one shot bursg damage i could do is schwart s3...
But oh boy i just chrck
She will eat ALL of my exp card to reach e1 lvl max
glass monolith
Just remember to manage your base (hides 29 dead operators under carpet in dorm) and exp/lmd will come
cinder walrus
Also robot gives like -10% def upon explode
And i switch from W s3 to ntr knighy so i can also use another robot
I have sora so i gonna trg it again
glass monolith
Termex or whatever his name is Fragile, not -% def. Fragile is multipler to whatever you doing and biggest fragile take place (not stacking, unless it is different kind of "increased damage")
cinder walrus
It only easiest stsge i dont feel too nervous to try out
cinder walrus
Termex or whatever his name is Fragile, not -% def. Fragile is multipler to what...
It sound less impressive than just minue percentage defense
Also kroos alter sound broken if you cqn proc her talent
glass monolith
Depends on enemy stats, if you do 1100 ATK and enemy has 100 def then -30% def is doing 1030 damage while 10% fragile is doing 1100 damage. Of course if you want real fragile you will likely use something like Suzu/Gnosis/Ela. 2 of which are Kernel and later is collab unit
So much of buff army is kernel now. And modern units dont need buffs due big %s on their skills
cinder walrus
I only gonna pull awk
Aak
No i mean
I have 180 gold cert. I just waiting for custom kernal head hunging...
I dont even wanna play a chance to pull him at this banner
cinder walrus
Depends on enemy stats, if you do 1100 ATK and enemy has 100 def then -30% def i...
I hate there is some girl with global arrow or somethin. New uni just feel stupid now...
glass monolith
Lemuen is global mlg 420 no scopes
Curse of gachas, need to have thing better to have people spend. At least power creep of enemies is still rather tame compared to games which just multiply enemy stats by 50 each year and call it content
halcyon adder
Which one?
cinder walrus
@glass monolith i have 2 aak skin but i dont have aak. What kind of rng is this my guy
glass monolith
Why would you get second one Sadly be like that
cinder walrus
I just do 35 rolls on kernal and i got no 6 stars. I also spend 30 rolls on act or die banner and there is no 6 stars
No 6 stars in 60 rolls
cinder walrus
Why would you get second one <:RedOmegaLul:1002227534622117918> Sadly be like t...
Cause i probably gonna stop ppaying until they have kernal headhunting
cinder walrus
Why would you get second one <:RedOmegaLul:1002227534622117918> Sadly be like t...
F2p earning originium feel even unfair
glass monolith
5 pulls per week, i take that
halcyon adder
Which one?
Guys
glass monolith
Which one?
Whichever makes you win more 
Personally went for Array
cinder walrus
5 pulls per week, i take that
I only does chernobyl anihilation....
I get like 2 pull a week
I should do anni more
Tomorrow
halcyon adder
Whichever makes you win more <:ChenShrug:924013423363231844> Personally went for...
Ok
glass monolith
You should have cap increase from Chernobyl, Lugmen outskirts should be doable by your characters.
And 2 of 5 pulls I mention were from Daily and Weekly missions which are like auto complete if you do base and spend sanity
uncut lark
So I found a Wis'adel support unit but they only have skill 1 and 2.
What do I do?
Is that still good enough for LE-8 or am I gonna struggle?
glass monolith
If you copying guide you want S3 as it is her main "WHAT IS THAT DAMAGE?" one.
uncut lark
Darn.
glass monolith
Currently (CN recently abandoned that thing) promotion level of support unit capped by your max promotion in squad. Which shouldn't be issue with free e2 (second promotion) for 5* ticket for all players, both new and old. I dont recall which day gives it, like 5th login?
fringe solstice
So I found a Wis'adel support unit but they only have skill 1 and 2.
no e2 yet?
uncut lark
Yeah... it's weird though. Their profile shows an E2 Wis'adel but the Wis I got is only E1 LV80.
full terrace
You got no E2 on your own squad
uncut lark
Oh yeah. Hold on, let me add Thorns and Amiya to the gang.
full stream
Why are they not in despite being e2 are 1:1 guide?
regal frost
You got no E2 on your own squad
full terrace
Hi Suraj
uncut lark
I did not know until now. I only recently started Arknights a month and a few weeks ago.
full terrace
I got no Sanity to record stuff 😂
regal frost
lmao I was gonna ask how the recording is going
full terrace
I forgot today Path of Life rerun would start
I just used up all my Sanity potions sigh
full stream
Just use prime?I thought the account was a side one🚬
glass monolith
you jsut spend all practice plans on BP-9 because it was cinema, aren't you
uncut lark
So after I add Wis'adel support unit to my squad, any suggestions on what else to add to it?
glass monolith
Try units, usually works
full stream
🔮
regal frost
show ops if you want suggestions
uncut lark
I'm only showing units I've had leveled up and skills upgraded so far.
Any suggestions on team comps from what's available?
uncut lark
I've been following Kyostinv's no-6 star guides for budget clears.
full stream
He is 1:1 guide
uncut lark
Yeah...
regal frost
you can sub in higher rarity units, you don't need to follow a guide exactly
also use mountain s2
blaze and Typhon want E1 since main skill is s2
uncut lark
That's understandable but I'm too impatient + lacking in resources to level up any of the 5 stars beyond E0 LV50.
At least for the moment.
regal frost
check #bot-spam /base and /baseskillls
full stream
Add in cuora,myrtle,gummy,BP, tragodia, Thornsalter, mountain,perfumer
uncut lark
Do I need to level them up or is their current level alright?
full stream
Do I need to level them up or is their current level alright?
They are fine.
uncut lark
Alright. Which one is BP again?
full stream
Blue poison
uncut lark
So once I start, what's my positioning?
What skills do I use?
Sorry if I'm being pushy but I really want to clear this stage efficiently and get it over with.
fringe solstice
Each stage has different positioning. So it is difficult to give generic advice.
full stream
Sorry if I'm being pushy but I really want to clear this stage efficiently and g...
Le-8,they have Wis borrow just point light to wis then click s3 on boss
It is as simple as it sounds
regal frost
you'll learn by playing
use practice plans when needed
full stream
Left side was defended by 3* goons in Kyo guide
U have 6* in there
Just shit on the stage
uncut lark
So I just plop her down on the bottom spot and profit?
full stream
Just put her right side and blow up boss,yes.🤯
fringe solstice
oh le-8, you want ops to be connected to the light to get sp. I used buff squad (shamare, warfarin, exu1, skadi alter) Pretty sure wisadel is enough
uncut lark
Just put her right side and blow up boss,yes.🤯
Which space on the right side?
full stream
Which space on the right side?
Any space that u can give light easily n hit the boss
uncut lark
Alright, fingers crossed.
The problem is whether I'll have enough DP. This Wis is 25 cost so...
Do I put down a DP generator first or just wait?
And which direction do I point Wis when I place her down?
uncut lark
Do I go S1 or S2 for Myrtle?
full stream
For safe measures if u can't do it because of the dp shenanigans add MandroDrugal#5171 exu2 s2m3 pot 3 mod3(12 DP) should kill the boss just as well but cheaper to deploy
uncut lark
skill 2?
full stream
What enemy?
What enemy what side
Because Wis should have murdered everything on right
full stream
U can put down mountain on left side+any dps even kroos would be fine
uncut lark
Do I wait until the boss is out before I use Wis S3?
full stream
Mountain kroos left side and wisadel+blocks+medic on right
I literally said boss in ranged>wisadel s3
uncut lark
Do I put Silence or Perfumer on the right side?
full stream
Yes u need a blocker+healer
uncut lark
Yeah the problem is the left side. It's lacking in 2 block units.
Not to mention that if I put down Wis, Myrtle's SP recovery becomes reduced.
Because Wis is facing up, so the laser goes off Myrtle.
Any suggestions?
full stream
the most basic of it
uncut lark
Ah. I think I see the problem now. I keep putting Wis on E8.
fringe solstice
It is probably easier if you face myrtle down and gummy right
uncut lark
So do I go S1 or S2 with Mountain?
full stream
It is probably easier if you face myrtle down and gummy right
yeah i kinda forgot about the mechanics since i havent touch that stage in a long time
uncut lark
It is probably easier if you face myrtle down and gummy right
How so?
full stream
reflection
full stream
So do I go S1 or S2 with Mountain?
mountain only has 1 skill and thats s2
fringe solstice
How so?
if they aren't in the light, they have a lot of reduced sp gain.
thorns doesn't care since he is offensive recovery sp
I don't remember the stage that well but you might need to move gummy to d2 and thorns to c2 if the left side has those colossus
uncut lark
where do I put the medics? Just anywhere or do I have to space them out since the boss attacks in a cross shape?
full stream
where do I put the medics? Just anywhere or do I have to space them out since t...
C4 facing up C7 facing right
fringe solstice
also I mixed up this stage and ex-8. I forgot this stage has 2 light sources
yeah ex8 has 1
uncut lark
Oof I have Perfumer on E5 facing left. Silence is good though.
After the boss goes into phase 2, do I trigger the S3 again?
Crud. Last 3 enemies. Wis just got knocked out.
full stream
u can double up on medics for her
if she is really struggling
which she shouldnt but whatever
uncut lark
Is it still salvageable?
It's the dang cross attack thing.
Does that count as splash damage?? Because I know camouflage protects from damage EXCEPT splash.
At least I think...
Welp. I failed.
full stream
Welp. I failed.
i want to say that you should just 1:1 but that genuinely would make the current problem worse,you are too reliant on a 1:1 that even if u have a unit that is 100x better than the one in the guide you are still failing its really up to you to try again with wis to actually break this bad habit or just 1:1 it with lee
uncut lark
I think the problem is my units' skill level. Most of the 4 or higher star units are only skill level 4 or 5.
full stream
hybrid i am kinda lost we might need to call arf
uncut lark
I just... don't trust my guts when it comes to tower defense games. Like, I think they're fun and I enjoy them, but I am not good at strategy.
fringe solstice
I think the problem is my units' skill level. Most of the 4 or higher star units...
I checked kyo's afk strat since I don't remember the stage. He uses mountain s2 left side and thorns right side. But he uses lee talent to stall the boss. I can check to see how wisadel does
uncut lark
The moment I see the first unit fall, I panic and can't concentrate.
full stream
fringe solstice
@uncut lark
I have mountain e2 so you probably need some more for the left side like kroos and medic. Also my perfumer is e2 so you need a medic for the right side too
myrtle --> fang --> thorns --> mountain --> perfumer --> wisadel
full stream
they are cooked too
fringe solstice
wisadel dmg is insane
I think thorns can solo them. But fang is there to block the enemies that leak in case he can't
uncut lark
Will Mountain be alright on his own on the left?
Also, what was the boss' attack priority again?
fringe solstice
yours I don't think so. Place kross and medic below mountain on the range tiles
wisadel s3 spawn the shadows so they have priority. My perfumer is e2 so you probably need another medic on wisadel
uncut lark
yours I don't think so. Place kross and medic below mountain on the range tiles
Will that break the light thing? Which spaces should I place Kroos and the medic?
fringe solstice
Will that break the light thing? Which spaces should I place Kroos and the medic...
uncut lark
Do I place them down after Wis in the positioning you gave me?
fringe solstice
I think so. You want wisadel s3 ready for the boss.
You might have enough dp to place them before
I just tested there is enough dp to place wisadel last
full stream
Hopefully this works
uncut lark
If not, then I'll just level up Mountain and Myrtle so they can HOPEFULLY survive for longer, then try again.
fringe solstice
If not, then I'll just level up Mountain and Myrtle so they can HOPEFULLY surviv...
myrtle doesn't really need levels just masteries on s1 for faster dp regen. I didn't activate myrtle s1 too early in my clear since mine is m3. But mountain is fine at e1. Ulpianus is better than mountain. I would focus on e2 ulpianus.
also i didn't see e2 greyy alter earlier so if you need more dps replace kroos with him
ebon flume
is there any way to cheese 5 3 💀
astral cosmos
erm just use wish adele no
glass monolith
There is cheese called deploy vanguard in middle and then escalate into medicfest
ebon flume
erm just use wish adele no
who
astral cosmos
wisadel
glass monolith
Limited sniper who allows to get away with turning brain off for majority of casual tier content
Bless friend supporting
fringe solstice
is there any way to cheese 5 3 💀
yato alter s2
haughty flower
Yato or Texalt can essentially solo it with just some bodies thrown in to block blue box
Tldr as long as they have ground ops borrowing either will work.
gloomy vortex
any tips on how to beat h9-5?
signal vector
any tips on how to beat h9-5?
Use the columns
Break them to create a funnel in the middle
haughty flower
It's really just a test of how well you learned using pillars to funnel, and then an aoe/multitarget DPS op check.
I'd have to imagine even like Exu alter could absolutely cook most of the enemies on the stage with some help from blockers to slow them down between s2's.
signal vector
I was getting away from not using pillars until H9-5 
haughty flower
Did you just brute force mandra
signal vector
Elem dmg goes wild
haughty flower
Holy cringe
signal vector
But ye afterwards I learn that you gotta pillar the b1tch to remove the dmg reduction
gloomy vortex
I'd have to imagine even like Exu alter could absolutely cook most of the enemie...
i do not realise whats happening but like the last few enemies fly over some wall
that exu can NOT reach
haughty flower
i do not realise whats happening but like the last few enemies fly over some wal...
Oh, the golems?
haughty flower
Their phase 2 is just proper flying enemies that just take the shortest path to their blue box, terrain be damned.
gloomy vortex
signal vector
i do not realise whats happening but like the last few enemies fly over some wal...
Oh golems?
haughty flower
You need to kill them in the "killpit" area and not too early so they end up flying into the funnel zone.
signal vector
Just refrain from killing them
signal vector
Wait for them to be in a favorable tile and nuke them
haughty flower
Basically just manage where they die, don't dps them too early.
You're the manager dante, so you've got to control both your own ops and where enemies flow and die. It's just a good mentality to keep.
signal vector
TLDR dont kill them at the edge of your range
haughty flower
I'd recc swapping out lappalt with wisadel if she's a borrow.
signal vector
oh makes sense i kept using lap alter ult in a panic
Ah make sense why, they step out of the red box immediately get killed and fly straight to the blue box
signal vector
borrowing mudrock
To hold?
gloomy vortex
ye
signal vector
I mean make sense since ulpi might just flip over and die cause he needs time to charge skill 2 and iirc there's a pretty heavy rush right from the start
gloomy vortex
I mean make sense since ulpi might just flip over and die cause he needs time to...
also used her to knock down the pillar on the left
haughty flower
I mean make sense since ulpi might just flip over and die cause he needs time to...
A 3 op of ulpi s2, gladiia s1, wis s3 does work.
The usual suspects.
signal vector
A 3 op of ulpi s2, gladiia s1, wis s3 does work.
Ulpi might explode if gla has no mod ngl
haughty flower
Ulpi might explode if gla has no mod ngl
See that's the fun part. If I remember correctly, burn proccs should heal him, even pre s2 and modless. Let me quickly check and confirm.
signal vector
Oh ye those DOT mofos
haughty flower
Okay not enough flamethrowers at the start to sustain him. Unlucky tbh.
undone jolt
What is the best strat for stage 8 of the event
Aside of placing wisadel
I do not want to borrow support wisadel
cyan plover
What is the best strat for stage 8 of the event
Depends on what you have on your disposal if you don't wanna borrow
void terrace
Wait wtf
You can change the difficulty of tales within the sands
At any point of time?????
I literally just cleared the whole story campagin on challenge mode caus it was default wtfff
Is there no penalty to point when playing on easier modes??
acoustic slate
fringe solstice
I literally just cleared the whole story campagin on challenge mode caus it was ...
the difficulty doesn't change campaign, just normal gameplay like raids and food
void terrace
Thats nuts...
Ive been wasting so much wheat this whole time
Ive been conserving my energy drinks so much...m
glass monolith
Is Pepe module to braindead RA2 here yet?
fringe solstice
Is Pepe module to braindead RA2 here yet?
wiki says ato so not yet
glass monolith
Lmao Yostar announced moving characters to kernel with Ulp rerun, and didn't move them
cyan plover
soon™
void terrace
Is Pepe module to braindead RA2 here yet?
Nope sadly
cyan plover
@undone jolt don't know if it will help really but here is a clear sorta based on your roster. You will need a Wandering medic though, be it the berries, eyja alter, chestnut, or harold. E1 40 should probably do fine.
The roster is made up of high level units and skill mastery though, so you may need to adapt it due to damage constraints.
https://youtu.be/oGsU8WAKrhE
Well in this vid there's plenty of stuff that can be improved, such as Exu2's skill activation timing, Tragodia's deployment timing, the agent's undeployment and such.
sly drift
Just how long is this flower nervous impairment range
dapper hedge
sly drift
It's slightly wider than Under Tides flower isn't it
dapper hedge
The same.
sly drift
Only the last stage actually
pearl compass
Yeah, because I don't see ranged DPS on left side.
sly drift
Normal stage 1 to Ex 7 is literally horizontally easy.
sly drift
Where do you think I should place ranged dps
pearl compass
Where do you think I should place ranged dps
If you have Logos, he should stay on Honeyberry position.
Or any ranged DPS, preferably Arts, but strong Phys is fine.
sly drift
Who tf is near Grace btw?
Rockrock
sly drift
Rockrock
Only her on my squad able to deal damage alone but then it's not even close because evolution the boss do
spark sinew
hang on, I'm asking people for the opinions about unit
his ass isn't modded rn
nocturne cove
spark sinew
but yeah mine is p5
queen axle
The difficulty spike.. is VERTICAL.
Queen of hatred wasn't that bad
maiden hound
@rgok what does this mean
queen axle
@rgok what does this mean
its a reference to this since most got hardstuck on it cause of the sudden jump in difficulty
maiden hound
i play pim bus surely it ain that hard :glueless:
glass monolith
The difficulty spike.. is VERTICAL.
I fear nothing
Boss links to drone (Priority targeting on ranged operators)
Fuck this shit I am out
sly drift
The last part is really rough. If I all out and burst everything down, they will sleep, basically revived later with all my operators on cooldown
lilac steppe
Does enemy being nerfed in rerun event?
pearl compass
Does enemy being nerfed in rerun event?
No. Same stats as usual.
You might just be stronger tho.
glass monolith
You might just be stronger tho.
Logos blast on stupid song event rerun
It was stupid for them to do fix to that only after rerun concluded
pearl compass
Logos blast on stupid song event rerun <:HellaKek:735650408340521020>
I remember that Witch King oneshot.
Also used it in ZT-S-5 after Auto goes wrong.
vagrant badger
Hey guys can i ask something? Are there any sniper characters aside from totter and scene that can see or reveal invisible enemies?
Im having trouble with an invisible enemy on a level
lapis hornet
scene isn't a sniper
spark sinew
Hey guys can i ask something? Are there any sniper characters aside from totter ...
considering scene isn't a sniper, i assume you mean ranged ones
there's Tsukinogi but there are better options
vagrant badger
considering scene isn't a sniper, i assume you mean ranged ones
there's Tsukinog...
i mean ranged characters
spark sinew
i already said that, yes
unborn swan
ines technically counts
lapis hornet
why ranged tho
maiden hound
thers like no one els
lapis hornet
ines isn't a ranged character
unborn swan
its gotta be on a high tile huh
spark sinew
ines with shoes 🫡
vagrant badger
why ranged tho
Im in a level where the invisible enemy follows a path where is hard to use melee ops
lapis hornet
I don't think I've ever come across a case like that tbh 
unborn swan
wasnt there a summoner who could reveal invis
lapis hornet
scene...
spark sinew
scene also doesn't count if we dont count ines, anyway
vagrant badger
Nope i don't have ines yet
unborn swan
i fear for this man if he has to build tsukinogi for this
spark sinew
they really don't
pearl compass
vagrant badger
Oh wait
pearl compass
BLOCKING.
vagrant badger
I have her
foggy grove
what kind of schizo map need this
pearl compass
spark sinew
typical 20 messages instead of sending the map which would have an obvious solution
odd forge
My squad for BP-8
glass monolith
Basedleaf
foggy grove
you don't need wandering for this event tbh
spark sinew
7 ops?
glass monolith
Enemy who suppose to stack elemental damage end up killing faster than stacking
spark sinew
i'm kinda confused cause it's not even a farming stage
sly drift
Very serious question chat. Why current event called BP
foggy grove
something2 blue print
spark sinew
not relevant to the channel, but eh
Beacon Pathway, wasn't it
or maybe someone gaslighted me (it sounds fine so why not)
glass monolith
Because I mistake Lucilla for Blue Poison and time paradox
foggy grove
not relevant to the channel, but eh
Beacon Pathway, wasn't it
or maybe someone ...
it's prolly that but offtopic anyhow ye
spark sinew
yeah, yuva was always bad as well, so we can't expect good example from them!
those are funny
right, strats are quite different
so i guess it's fair
sly drift
yeah, yuva was always bad as well, so we can't expect good example from them!
What did I do
spark sinew
ignored my dm a couple years ago!
sly drift
nocturne cove
<@1224331036583002254> i will never financially recover from this
my sympathies
but maybe when you try relicless in future you will use him!
spark sinew
but maybe when you try relicless in future you will use him!
me when even in relicless his ass is used in 4 maps total across 6 IS
nocturne cove
i remember when i made khant m9 zuo
i thought he maxxed every male
spark sinew
idt he did at that point
nocturne cove
i see
spark sinew
also i swapped back to his skin
i tried to use him without, and that s3 animation is just... so bad
sly drift
Should be.
But maybe it's possible for enemies to somehow pass through SanktaMiks/Saria because gitano/Lava don't do enough damage.
nocturne cove
~~also i swapped back to his skin~~
should have skin choosing feature just like skill and module
spark sinew
yeah...
glass monolith
Should be.
But maybe it's possible for enemies to somehow pass through SanktaMik...
30 second shield archers walking into Saria, their shield drop just when next batch arrive. Also I think Viviana mages will have a blast
smoky halo
idt he did at that point
khant has every male 6star at m9
m9 zuo is nothing compared to other goober m9s like hellakek
🚬
uncut lark
Just checking but which module is better for Mountain?
full stream
Just checking but which module is better for Mountain?
Its not even recommended to mod him but mody1 gives him a bit of a boost but it's much inferior if u want to dump more module blocks compared to modx3
uncut lark
Doesn't Mountain only have two modules?
full stream
Mod=module Y/X=type 1/2/3=the lvls of the module
So mody1 is module Y lvl 1
Modx3 is module X lvl 3
uncut lark
Is his Mod X meant for his s2 or something?
full stream
Both mody and modx used s2 it's his main skill
Modx3 has a bigger powerspike than mody3 but mody1 is better than modx1
haughty flower
S2 is his main skill because block-1 with pretty bad stats is horrid most the time
uncut lark
He becomes a Dreadnought Guard essentially.
Are Fighter Guards usually low stats in exchange for faster attack speed?
full stream
? His s2 gives +1 block he originally has 1 block so with s2 up he has 2 block
haughty flower
Not even, because his stats are inferior.
You can use s3 for a push stall niche and that's about it.
haughty flower
Are Fighter Guards usually low stats in exchange for faster attack speed?
Yes, but the problem is physical damage is calculated by attacker atk - defender def, with a minimum of 5% of attacker atk dealt per attack.
uncut lark
Is 587 ATK considered low in 2025?
haughty flower
Extremely.
full stream
That's why marksmen are left behind🚬
uncut lark
Dang. What's the current highest ATK unit in-game at the moment?
full stream
Dang. What's the current highest ATK unit in-game at the moment?
The stat alone? Prob ulpianus on s3 but the actual high damage per hit is lemuen s2
uncut lark
Ah okay.
elder flume
should be Ines / anything Castle buffed ig
tho all that can just be cloned to get the theoretical max
craggy idol
Guys which squad sounds better to build for mid to late game? These are separate accounts.
I’ll just list the 6 stars
1st
Tragodia, blaze, silver ash, pazemka
2
Ines, Wis Adel, silver ash, mountain
signal vector
Guys which squad sounds better to build for mid to late game? These are separate...
Tragodia, ines, wisadel, sash and mountain
sly drift
Pazemka 
haughty flower
Pozy wozy
sly drift
Anyway it's quite crazy how ppl now not even consider Pazemka as choice. She was literally best boss killer on her era
Insane Arknights Powercreep is real
full stream
They gotta bring back CC beta
Easiest max risk
Don't even gotta think just plop down the meta units and call it a day
The main dps for that CC was Silverash/lappland if u are broke
sly drift
CC Beta with Weedy S2 is probably piss easy.
full stream
Or schwarz/specter
sly drift
CC beta with today meta is probably feels like your regular daily max risk
CC Beta is very simple. But with very limited roster as well
sly drift
I didn't remember the tiles risk basically filter all ranged ops
full stream
We got ascalon ulpianus zuo le we are still chilling
gray latch
How good of invest is the welfare tank who dislikes s*abornes
I had a glance in wishlash command from a year ago but checking if it's outdated
( I don't have blue poison the Archer)
haughty flower
gray latch
BP is just bad.
Underflow is okay by 5* standards but bad from a value perspecti...
I was told #help is toxic and #strategy is comfy by #arknights gays
gray latch
BP is just bad.
Underflow is okay by 5* standards but bad from a value perspecti...
Who's BP
haughty flower
Blue poison.
She's bad because Kroos Alter is both free to get and outperforms her in the majority of content, with some niche utility that can be used past where BP is effective.
gray latch
Blue poison.
The wishlash bot said "not worth investing underflow if you don't have bp+ tank" but it's 1 year ago
haughty flower
Not sure what the writer for the bot meant by that, but tldr I wouldn't recc raising Underflow.
gray latch
I thought skill 2 sounds cool, I guess the numbers aren't that good
haughty flower
I thought skill 2 sounds cool, I guess the numbers aren't that good
I'll reiterate, she's an interesting op and decent by 5 star standards, but considered poor value to invest in unless your team is fully built already and you have the luxury for fun raises.
gray latch
I'll reiterate, she's an interesting op and decent by 5 star standards, but cons...
Nice
south spindle
I was told <#586588958885150721> is toxic and <#669489344658014208> is comfy by ...
Doesn’t make this the right channel regardless
Also the people in both channels overlaps quite a bit
It’s usually not toxic, and if it is, send me the report
#arknights is also full of liars and people who make baseless claims
haughty flower
Baseless, haha.
haughty flower
Less than there should.
lofty stag
south spindle
I should sample data on the average #arknights vs #help vs #r-i-i-c daily base output
lofty stag
haughty flower
I should sample data on the average <#586588921614303233> vs <#58658895888515072...
I'd actually be very interested in that. I'm certainly willing to give my own data if asked.
supple nacelle
I was told <#586588958885150721> is toxic and <#669489344658014208> is comfy by ...
I found this hella funny #help isn't really toxic, once in a while probably but definitely never speak of waifus cuz they will advice meta>waifus I guess this is where that toxic comes from xD
unkempt lintel
help is not toxic its just elitism
but as long as chat free from likes of mudrock fan and myon we good
signal vector
but as long as chat free from likes of mudrock fan and myon we good <:SoraWow:64...
What's wrong with hot sarkaz woman 😭
serene hornet
was wondering the same
cedar hound
Its just the username
tired hornet
Is there anyone worth leveling up I don’t know what banner to pull on?
regal frost
pull prio in help pins, would save for leizi
tired hornet
What?
maiden hound
upcoming unit "leizi the thunderbringer" not here yet but will be soon
tired hornet
Alright anyone in my roster worth leveling
maiden hound
kroos ansel silence lava fang silverash for now
tired hornet
Who’s Ansel?
rustic spear
3 star medic, pink hair
tired hornet
Wait nvm
uncut lark
Fair warning, it's mostly my 3-4 stars that are built up pass Elite 0. I'm low on resources at the moment is all.
foggy grove
why not just do current event then
get some exp and lmd from that
nocturne cove
you shouldnt be doing side stories when a main event is running
nocturne cove
Fair warning, it's mostly my 3-4 stars that are built up pass Elite 0. I'm low o...
either way show your ops
uncut lark
That's fair. I should probably focus on the main event before thinking of anything else.
Anyways, here are the Operators I currently have that are at least leveled up.
nocturne cove
i just tried
exu2 can solo that stage with some bodies
if you dont mind borrowing
(please dont raise gladiia this early in the game, waste of resources)
foggy grove
tbh that acc doesn't need borrow
trag should cheese stuff and the little handy negate the floor issue
uncut lark
Will the boss be lured though?
Will Honeyberry and Mulberry be enough or do I need more healers?
nocturne cove
i just tried exu2 in my furst run thats all
sterile delta
is it me or is archetto s2 even at e1 really good in IS
nocturne cove
Will the boss be lured though?
if there is a traceable path yws
sterile delta
I've been clutching left and right with her s2 and she isn't even e2 yet with IS mod
nocturne cove
Will Honeyberry and Mulberry be enough or do I need more healers?
normal healers work just fine
uncut lark
Yeah but the nervous impairment might get stacked too fast with those path things.
pearl compass
It's for what stage, once again?
uncut lark
SN-7.
uncut lark
@pearl compass This one.
nocturne cove
most of the times ele healer are redundant
nocturne cove
Yeah but the nervous impairment might get stacked too fast with those path thing...
configure your little handy
pearl compass
Too much Wandering medics. You may remove mud floor with your roomba.
And problem solved.
nocturne cove
i mean you dont need to place your ops in the brand to begin with
i will try with solo trag
wait
but mine is e2 max so uh
foggy grove
just borrow e1
uncut lark
Yeah... I might need to level some folks up.
foggy grove
the point is so he can learn using his own squad
since what he has actually is enough
anyhow this lil handy negate floor issue
nocturne cove
if that really is the point then he should atleast mald first and tell where he is facing problem
nocturne cove
anyhow this lil handy negate floor issue
iirc it doesnt give you all options at start
does it?
cyan plover
if that really is the point then he should atleast mald first and tell where he ...
fair
foggy grove
iirc it doesnt give you all options at start
it should since it's already on acrhieve
like how dh start with all stickers
nocturne cove
@uncut lark you have all little handy options unlocked?
uncut lark
The little handies are the robots, right? If yes, I only have Lancet.
fringe solstice
The little handies are the robots, right? If yes, I only have Lancet.
It is the buffs for sn stages. iirc you need to beat other side stages to get them
foggy grove
look for the left tab on your squad
nocturne cove
as i thought
nocturne cove
instead of wall bounce
use it for clearing brand
idk if you are facing problem with boss or mobs?
uncut lark
Fair enough. Where should I use them?
nocturne cove
i used in bottom lane
boss can easily be killed by trago
yours will just take 2 or 3 cycles of cat
uncut lark
How do I deal with those hunchback jerks?
The ones who fart sea trails whenever you hit them with an attack?
foggy grove
you can block them on the red box so they don't spread it or use the roomba to clean it later
uncut lark
Will a defender kill them fast enough before the next wave of enemies?
uncut lark
So what about the bombs? I think I recall that after killing certain enemies, they left behind a bone pile that exploded after a while. Took my by surprise.
nocturne cove
you can read about them
also it is fine to try it again and again til you figure it out
thats how the game works
uncut lark
I know the boss consumes tombstones or whatever, but how do I avoid that?
Do I just clean up the gunk with the roomba or something else?
elder flume
It is inevitable
uncut lark
So I just need to avoid the adjacent four tiles of the tombstones then?
elder flume
Best you can do is choose which buff the boss gets depending on which tomb is closer to boss body
And hopefully all the tombs are not next to each other which will give them all the buffs
uncut lark
Any support cheese options?
When does the boss start consuming tombstones? Like, roughly around what number?
If you immediately defeat it when it first appears?
pearl compass
When does the boss start consuming tombstones? Like, roughly around what number?
At some point, when new enemy wave starts spawning
foggy grove
uncut lark
You mean I have to fight this b-tch again 3 stages later??
foggy grove
ofc
pearl compass
Yes.
You thought it's his final form in SN-7?
HE BECAME MORE BULLSHIT ON SN-10.
uncut lark
I'm just glad it's only form 2 on SN-7.
What would be some good support unit choices for SN-7? Wis'adel again?
uncut lark
Also I can tell that SN-10 is gonna be painful just from the layout...
pearl compass
It is.
