strategy

[pearl breach]

With full mod too?

[worn root]

only m6 but I do have both mods at stage 3

[pearl breach]

May I add you? I have been looking this for so long

[worn root]

sure

I'll need to set it in my support though

[woeful spade]

anyone?

for is specifically

[astral cosmos]

well for is5 sure

[worn root]

cutter and click are the 2 that first comes to mind

[narrow pendant]

Humus rather

Cutter is garbage for is

[woeful spade]

https://krooster.com/u/mikasa anyone you wanna recomend from what i have?

[woeful spade]

my click is already e1 lvl40 skill7, thats enough i am guessing

[narrow pendant]

And just e1 lvl 40~ is good for IS purposes

[pearl breach]

Sent. Many thanks 🛐

[narrow pendant]

Dont go e2 them

[woeful spade]

i only e2 6 stars

[narrow pendant]

Just saying

[woeful spade]

anyone you wanna recommend me to build for easier and more fun is5 from what i have?

[worn root]

dr pitanger focuses more on is stuff so I recommended him but he does cover CN stuff so do note of that
https://www.youtube.com/@Dr.Pitanger

[narrow pendant]

Seen one guy who e2 and modded gummy

[worn root]

accepted, let me know whenever you need silence alt

[woeful spade]

i have seen his videos before

[prime nebula]

can someone help me with some stages pls

[worn root]

drop your krooster and what stages you need help beating

[narrow pendant]

4* wise, beanstalk, utage, perfumer/sussuro(prolly sussuro) and maybe may

For 3*, u kinda raise them all at some point

[woeful spade]

nice, thanks a lot!

[narrow pendant]

But no e2, just e1 lvl40~ or so for all of them

[prime nebula]

https://www.krooster.com/u/nottyumiii

need some help with JT8-3 cm and H8-4, both of those stages are annoying me rn

[woeful spade]

yes yes, i will remember that, and skill7?

[narrow pendant]

May later can have a "stun" niche with the aspd that IS5 gives u easily but, thats not really something to bother with

Cuz yoid need to raise her more than e1 which is stinky

[narrow pendant]

Yea, sl7 is a big diff

[woeful spade]

so build beanstalk, utage, susaro? leave may?

[narrow pendant]

Can still e1 her, i meant more investment

[worn root]

JT8-3 cm have the boss wanted so lemuen can attack the boss from anywhere on the map, you can use any laterano op in order to do that

[woeful spade]

cool thanks a lot, appreciate the help

[worn root]

and borrow nightingale so you can tank and heal off the arts damage the boss does

[prime nebula]

can nightingale outheal all the flames?

[worn root]

yeh

she also mitigates the arts damage

you can always bait the flames instead with 2 fast redeploys

[prime nebula]

oh wow

maybe I should try using her

[narrow pendant]

Nightingale when logos🥱

[prime nebula]

I used her a bit but never really thought she could heal so much

[pearl breach]

for a beanstalk/ tinman case. if you are gonna use them as a starter.

you can get away just from borrowing a support units.
so more resources to save if you want.

[narrow pendant]

Ng doesnt heal a lot
She just negates lot of the dmg

[prime nebula]

ohhh ok ok

should I use s3 and wait for the boss to die first?

[worn root]

yeh, nightingale to heal off the damage and logos s3 to cheese the fireballs

[narrow pendant]

Oh u literaly have logos

Just time s3 and delete the fireballs completly

[worn root]

^

they need to kill the boss first

[woeful spade]

i think i am gonna start with the wisadel borrow, gummy, click comp as its the easiest?

[worn root]

the fireballs are the least of the worries

[narrow pendant]

Surely they arent having problem with killing

🥹

[worn root]

with lemuen for nuking and gramps to tank

they'll be fine

[prime nebula]

no actually killing the boss is easier for me

its the fireballs that mess me up

[worn root]

you have logos

when she dies, activate s3 and delete the fireballs

ez

[prime nebula]

what about when she dies the 2nd time

[gray latch]

I see that honeyberry can heal enemy boss tragodia's circle impairment DMG, is it a decent invest

[worn root]

same thing

[prime nebula]

what if his skill isnt back by then

[worn root]

use ptlopsis as a second healer for increased sp recovery

[prime nebula]

ohhh ok ok

this is the team I've been running for everything so far

[narrow pendant]

Then dont kill her so quickly

[worn root]

blaze + SA should be enough for lane holding with tragodia's cat assisting

[prime nebula]

ok so like WHEN should I kill her? bc I usually wait till shes at that area where all the ranged platforms are in the middle to kill her

[worn root]

if you mark the boss wanted lemuen can attack her anywhere on the map

[narrow pendant]

Uh, u can kill her anywhere u want if yoire prepared for the fireballs

Kill her ->when u see her jump in air animation, acticate logos s3
Then just dont kill her nefore his skill is back up

[prime nebula]

exu and lemuen are the only laterano operators i have right? other than gracebearer but I stopped using her

[worn root]

you have gramps

sankta mik

[gray latch]

I don't see a latereno ops filter in roster, how do I spot them

[prime nebula]

oh yeah

[narrow pendant]

Otheriwse this peak happens

I love this so much

[prime nebula]

yeah thats happened before..

[worn root]

yeh, you want to time the skill

it's not that bad of a timing

just some trail and error

[narrow pendant]

Wjen she jumps in the air

Not hard

iirc that is, forgor

Cuz i was lazy and used the 3 op clear

[prime nebula]

ok so
get dp with myrtle and cantible, mark her with sankta, place down logos, lemuen, ptil and nightingale, kill her, use logos' skill and repeat?

[worn root]

you also wanna hold the lanes with blaze and SA with tragodia's cat assisting

[prime nebula]

alr

I'll go try that rq

ok one issue so far, I dont have enough DP to place down silverash AND blaze even after getting some dp at the start, since lemuen and sankta cost a lot

[worn root]

just focus on the laneholding then you can set up lemuen and use another laterano to mark her when she stands still

[prime nebula]

alr

[glass monolith]

Other peak was me using Heavyrain S2 to buff her HP only to find out camo unit won't block fireballs

[worn root]

good for JT8-3, not so great for H8-4

[glass monolith]

Sadly I was doing JT8-3 before obtaining HeavyCamoWoman

[prime nebula]

so I did the laneholding setup and got both my healers down, but she did too much dmg with that global range explosion and lemuen died

[worn root]

like I said, you can always grab 2 fast redeploys

and keep baiting the flames

[prime nebula]

so like gravel and yato?

[worn root]

yato takes longer to redeploy than gravel but yeh

[prime nebula]

alr

also how do I know when the flames are coming?

[worn root]

she'll do an animation when casting them

happens every 19 secs

gravel has an 18 sec redeployment timer

[prime nebula]

oh ok

[prime nebula]

wait so should I get someone who takes less than 19 seconds to deploy to bait them?

[worn root]

if you want to if your not confident to have 1 of your ops be alr tanking a burn

[prime nebula]

it goes for the last 2 deployed ops right?

[worn root]

yeh

[prime nebula]

alr

[worn root]

still prioritizes taunt though

[prime nebula]

I dont think I have anyone that has taunt

[fringe solstice]

You can. The low end strat uses gravel + yato(vanguard) + jaye. Since jaye redeployment timer is 25 sec

[worn root]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSNh89SqF60

[fringe solstice]

tbf that is from years ago

The borrow is wisadel

[glass monolith]

Stupid question: can one just manual retreat Mitm pet to bait burn?

[worn root]

in theory

[worn root]

that's boring

[prime nebula]

so like this?

[fringe solstice]

well ig, wisadel doesn't need too much healing. Kyo uses e2 sussuro

[fringe solstice]

no, yato needs level 30 and you need jaye or someone else. If you are borrowing nightingale, it is probably worth just trying to out heal the burn instead

[prime nebula]

oh alr

[pearl breach]

He has plenty dps.
If he can mark talu at the start. She will just die long before reaching the blue box by lem s2 alone.

[worn root]

lemu s2 is sl7

[fringe solstice]

saria + nightingale can outheal. There are 4op clears with them

[worn root]

s3 is m1

[pearl breach]

Those set up is fine. You can treat canta as sub frd

[woeful spade]

which skill is better for sussaro in is5

[worn root]

s2

as an emergency heal skill

[latent hound]

i need help with arturia module 2nd mission

[narrow pendant]

What about it

[worn root]

doesn't seem that hard

just have her trigger a necorsis burst

[woeful spade]

which skill of beanstalk better for is5

[narrow pendant]

S2

[worn root]

s1 mostly, but s2 for bad neighbors for smth funny

[woeful spade]

lol

[narrow pendant]

Its dependant on stage

Cuz often if ure not doing gummy(ew) start, u kinda dont have blocks
So her s2 can come useful

[woeful spade]

oh cool

[woeful spade]

i should be doing the wisa gummy click start atleast for now, right?

[narrow pendant]

Sure

[woeful spade]

what is deep exploration?

[compact canyon]

Hello, I'm about 1.5 weeks into Arkkights and really enjoy this game. Are there any guides on optimal placement of units? Especially with the vanguard, I feel like I replace it with a guard eventually, so it shouldn't be at a choke point at the start.

[narrow pendant]

Fun

Just "quests"

Do x under y

[woeful spade]

are they like harder than the monthly squad ones?

[narrow pendant]

U can see what u need to do on left side

[narrow pendant]

Ye

[woeful spade]

cool, i will deal with them later

[glass monolith]

If it works it works

[worn root]

outside of guides and basic understanding like deployment order, just smash your head against the wall and see what works

[narrow pendant]

Monthlies are just, "place this op 10 times"
One of this deep exploration makes u finish a run sith bosses who have 5 times the stats

[compact canyon]

Sure, is the deployment order like how the last thing placed gets targetted first? Or something beyond that?

[worn root]

pretty much

[woeful spade]

wow, i will definitely deal with them "later", need to get to level 65 first

[worn root]

there's also taunt and that but it won't come up much and it's pretty easy to understand

[plucky grove]

i thought you just had to reach floor 5

i got obliterated by super buffed theresis but it completed the investigation anyway

[narrow pendant]

Idk man🥹

I just said what i rmb
Maybe it was another DI

Its too late fir me to care

[glass monolith]

Modern solution require outdated problems (H13-4)

Huh i expected Discord to tell me to fuck myself with video lenght

[worn root]

that was how long condensed down to 4 mins

[glass monolith]

i just saved og clip into x3 speed

Wave 2 triggering was accidental AF Boss revived last amber which made there being 0 enemies for enough time to wave 2 to start

[gusty depot]

Finally recorded beating Tallulah! https://youtu.be/Xcug54JHgpc?si=7OWsNUMue8XUb-YS

[wind crown]

yo how did yall beat vector stage 12?

[wicked minnow]

with buffs, exu2 deletes the boss and so do most good dps units icl

[wind crown]

im talking about trying to hit the boss in the first place without my entire team getting one shot

[wicked minnow]

what buffs are you using?

[full terrace]

Read the mechanics

[wind crown]

i do understand most of what mechanist does

i can stall him usinf tragodia cat and frds

its just one mistake equal everyone dying

[wicked minnow]

if you are using buffs, exu2 just kills him. also cuora stalls him better than tragodia

[wind crown]

coura is garrisoned...

[wicked minnow]

rip

[wind crown]

il see if i can get buffs with my 3 and 4 stars

but idk man

[wicked minnow]

sacrifice some of your 6* if it comes to it

the buffs are very good

[glass monolith]

Solution 1: Somehow casually tank 24x1152
Solution 2: Kill him first

[wind crown]

il see if exu can kill him since ive been using lemuen + frd stall with cat to attempt to kill

[wicked minnow]

exu2 would like buffs to kill him

[wind crown]

which ones

[wicked minnow]

1 sec

[wicked minnow]

these are the main ones

last choice is whatever you see would be nice

[wind crown]

welp time to suffer getting these buffs

[wicked minnow]

-20% enemy def
+150 atk
+100 aspd +100% atk +100% max hp -3 block

[wicked minnow]

if it comes to it, you can sacrifice even some of your best units to get the buffs you should be fine i think

[full terrace]

Shileds did you trim your medal

[wicked minnow]

i was very lazy

[full terrace]

So no?

[wicked minnow]

i didnt trim

[full terrace]

Man..

[wicked minnow]

i had the ops for the 4 op but just didnt

i dont really care about medals

my medal sets are :cooked:

[wind crown]

ngl seems easier to just give up rn

i only started playing like 4-5 months ago i just dont have the units for this

[wicked minnow]

on welfare i just couldnt be asked to trim it either. i figured out that fuze can solo what vigil and astgenne where doing in the start and all fuze needed was help with 1 robot that would leak when leafcarpet arrived. i can very consistently get to phase 2 but i just wasnt asked to complete it

[wicked minnow]

you have the units from what i can see when you posted your squad comp. it just more depends on if you want to do it. vec 12 has a duo clear with ethan + ling btw. so you could just borrow her and then you'd just need to deal with the garrison stages. also i know that lemuen exu + some tank can deal with this stage as well

finding the right garrison might be a bit hard but you can sacrifice some good units for it and you'd do fine

[wind crown]

wait ling and ethan can duo?

was ethan maxed?

[wicked minnow]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1HAj5zvEEU

dont take it as a guide necessarily but the buffs do matter a lot

but ye they can

lemuen + exu2 + some tank can deal with the stage as well with buffs

[wind crown]

yea i cant even clear the buffs lmao

[glass monolith]

Event would be so free if there was friend supporting on buffs

[worn root]

tragodias cages also get shields from the medicine sticks

[glass monolith]

???

[lime lantern]

what am i doing wrong here

how am i supposed to kill boss if no bombs 😔

[glass monolith]

Well not having active S1 logos for sure

[glass monolith]

You can get 2 bombs per bomb spawn if you delay bombing long enough for spawner to get skill back (need to activate before boss nuke it)

[lime lantern]

damn

[lime lantern]

uhhh hopefully sl7 is neough

i think when i tried it it didn't come up fast enough

this is what i start with

[fringe solstice]

It is easier with true aoe. I'm surprised you made it this far. logos s1 is op

[wind crown]

unholy amounts of true damage

[lime lantern]

yea uh

logos s1 takes 3 days to come up

[glass monolith]

Honestly him having progress without reaper is holy shit in my book

[lime lantern]

i made it this far

with Logos s3

😔

why is wisadel dead? who knows idk man

[glass monolith]

Why start with logos, Tragodia s2 can auto attack slugs to death

[lime lantern]

well mostly because i thought i'd put logos s1 down asap

cause it takes so long to get up

but good idea yea

[glass monolith]

Good idea but 70 or whatever SP tell otherwise

[lime lantern]

also my trag doesnt hit the breakpoint if that matter

[glass monolith]

Break point is boss proc, we talk auto normal mobs lol

[wind crown]

yea i give up on vector stages

[lime lantern]

well i have a la pluma if you wnat

[wind crown]

maybe next time i can clear an event like that

but not now

[glass monolith]

#strategy message I did H13-4 with my dumb stuff just not sure how well it apply to your dumb stuff, I don't really own Exu2

[lime lantern]

you do have alot more aoe

[glass monolith]

Well because it is H stage for reason, I am not touching it with anything less than nuclear launch codes

[lime lantern]

idk i just randomly decided to do h13 stages yesterday

[fringe solstice]

I used blaze alter and ifrit

[glass monolith]

I am waiting for "No sanity loss on defeat" for H15-4 or whatever is applying bomb to lagging software stage is

[lime lantern]

defeat only loses 1 sanity no

[glass monolith]

Do you take me for someone who will suffer defeat only once?

I spend half day of practice plans for this stupid H stage for I have no memory of what I did and had to cook

[fringe solstice]

usually my runs last 5 mins so it is basically no lost

[lime lantern]

true i had to use a sanitypot when i was doing jt8-3

[queen axle]

[worn root]

I'm going into is 5 diff 18 ending 2 with 5 supporters

💀

[queen axle]

i had like 8 vanguard tickets in a row once

[lime lantern]

is it basically the same price to Lv87Mod2 trag or Lv82Mod3 trag?

[worn root]

I didn't get any supporter vouchers on floor 4 & 5 until I hit the shop on floor 5 which gave me 2

and I couldn't find any boskies

gonna go in now, wish me luck

[queen axle]

mod blocks are valuable

[lime lantern]

so i should mod2 instead then

and lv87

[queen axle]

mod2 88 seems better yeah

[lime lantern]

wait its 88 not 87?

[queen axle]

88

[lime lantern]

aw man

[queen axle]

[lime lantern]

this unit is ruining me

8 piss prisms and lv 88?

[fringe solstice]

@lime lantern anyway, you want to place wisadel when logos is and ptilopsis where exu 2 is and place logos next facing up

should be enough time for s1

[lime lantern]

[worn root]

I lost (no surprise)

managed to get to phase 2 though

[lime lantern]

wtfrick

😔

[fringe solstice]

I decided to give it a try, and I found this work except I messed up a few times because logos died to mist and I forgot the device has taunt.

wisadel --> trag --> exu2, ptilopsis --> logos --> thorns, gummy

needed a few gravel deploys

honestly, thorns doesn't do much except move the device

[lime lantern]

yea idk why hes tehre

ill try that

[fringe solstice]

I haven't completed the stage fully just tested the strat. I think you will need silence and leumen on the other tiles

[lime lantern]

if silence is next to trag facing up whrre do i put lemuen

wont she just get spawnkilled

[fringe solstice]

b6 is relatively safe only the annihilators can hit that

[lime lantern]

mk

[void terrace]

Damn tragodia and doro are such a funny combo

You can basically set up mine fields wherever then just use the cat to drag the enemy back onto them

[glass monolith]

We have mines within your mines

[sly drift]

Which mod got their ass burn by this

[maiden hound]

cigarette in britspeak is, unfortunately, still a slur

[sly drift]

[sly drift]

Insane ain't it

What makes this even funny is that the topic ended like 10 hours ago with no one triggered until now for some reason.

But yea whatever. Still slur and my fault. Didn't know that word could trigger someone that bad (While still literally subject no one on that conversation)

[short prairie]

What's the quickest and most efficient way to fast farm IS5 just for the rewards? Specifically:

• What's the best squad and best ops to start
• What difficulty
• What ending

[cerulean hawk]

• Blueprint or Ingot + Wisadel/Click/Gummy
• D10
• ED1

[pearl compass]

Wis/Rosmontis Blueprint
D10
End1

[sly drift]

Apparently I got warned again because showing this screenshot.

This moderator dude have personal grudge against me.

[pearl compass]

Report for fault warn to big admins.

[cerulean hawk]

Lol what

[pearl compass]

To Infinitywards.

[foggy grove]

isn't showing shaw dm forbidden

[cerulean hawk]

Server Rule 19

[foggy grove]

afraid this one is on you

[cerulean hawk]

Why is it a thing

[foggy grove]

i never get shaw ed so i don't relly remember it till now

[pearl compass]

[worn root]

Tragodia (solo) Blueprint
D18
End 1
gotta flex because yes

[pearl compass]

Well I guess you lose warn, you get it again

[cerulean hawk]

Maybe worth reading the rules after you get warned

Its a very good strategy

[sly drift]

This place is nuts

[worn root]

cause you said "morbillion"

nah jk but ik why you got the warning

[pearl compass]

Wait, he was warned for Marvel's slop?

[cerulean hawk]

🤦‍♀️

[sly drift]

Yea yea idk man. How would I know if this very moderator keep hiding and not telling me directly right?

[pearl compass]

Anyway, just for consultation, contact Infinitywards in DMs.

[worn root]

@sly drift I dm'd you the reason why you got the warning

[pearl compass]

And delete this Shaw's screenshot

Before mods give you second warn

[south spindle]

This is off topic

Yes as Bengal said, if you have a problem you can dispute it via the server dashboard in #welcome-and-rules
Contact infy if the dashboard isn't working

Dont bring up warnings again here

[sly drift]

This place is nuts.

[cerulean hawk]

The problem is never me :clueless:

[dapper hedge]

Surely #strategy the best place to talk about this!

[sly drift]

Why don't you warn this guy too. He said the same exact thing, also without subjecting anyone just like me

This is literally the biggest "Ehhhh???" on my 5 damn years on this server

[cerulean hawk]

What

[worn root]

lag or smth

happened to me before, where it sends the same message twice

[sly drift]

Discord lag

[glad spoke]

@foggy grove Don't repeat slurs

[sly drift]

So it's you who warn me eh?

[cerulean hawk]

1v1ing the mod is a great idea

[worn root]

idt they can confirm or deny that

[glad spoke]

I will neither confirm nor deny that

[worn root]

LMAO

[glad spoke]

lol jinx

[south spindle]

I will confirm once more this is off topic as I noted earlier

[sly drift]

Alright alright move on

[fathom sedge]

Will this be enough for jt8-3
I need help

[sly drift]

More than enough actually

[fathom sedge]

You got a strat?

[sly drift]

Use bait

Use gravel and red or something

Two fast redeploy to bait Talulah burn skill

[smoky halo]

wtf not relicless
cant flex ‼️

[full terrace]

Mechanics #strategy message Low-End Wisadel borrow #strategy message

[sly drift]

Yea.. here above you if you want "Solution"
If you actually want to play the stage, as in actually do the stage on your own. Just mention me.

[foggy grove]

bassline s2 is mini ng how broken

[sly drift]

Yea.. baseline S2 is very important on this particular fight

[smoky halo]

bassline op

m6 mod3 ur bassline trust

[austere skiff]

any tips for 6-8?

the wolves come in too fast

i have like ZERO time to place down two units

[foggy grove]

huh did you bring full squad defender or something

charger or cheap unit helps

[sly drift]

Place your two vanguard first

We call this stage "Filter" to those who skipped vanguard tutorial

[austere skiff]

yeah the thing is uh

like

fang dies too fast

myrtle only blocks one

[sly drift]

Show squad

[smoky halo]

borrow ines

[austere skiff]

@sly drift

[sly drift]

Deploy Fang>Myrtle (Don't activate skill yet)>Exu>Silence in order.
If they still can't survive

[austere skiff]

myrtle only blocks

one enemy

[sly drift]

Yea.. but dog die to Exu so they don't stack

[austere skiff]

ill try

[sly drift]

Alright.. tried it and it indeed doesn't works
Try courier

Courier + fang

Oh.. you probably don't have any other pioneer vanguard raised. And probably don't want raise them either

Actually yea.. borrow ines

[foggy grove]

noir super cheap if you don't want to borrow

[pearl breach]

Drop fang >> noir corne > lemuen s2 > replace fang with gummy. U just afk till the end

[austere skiff]

alr

[sly drift]

Bruh.. I didn't know Noir defender cost only 12dp

[foggy grove]

if you wanna borrow might as well borrow sexu 🤯

[pearl breach]

2 star is goated

[fringe solstice]

yeah noir is the cheapest option but borrow works too

I used noir for a couple of chp 12 stages

[sly drift]

Fang>Noir>Exu>Silence
This should already win

[austere skiff]

i dont have enough dp to place gummy

[foggy grove]

you need to wait for fang to produce dp to replace her with gummy

[austere skiff]

FANG DIES BEFORE HER SKILL GETS UP

I DONT HAVE ENOUGH DP TO PLACE DOWN SILENCE EITHER

💔💔💔

[foggy grove]

yes because she is e1 lv1

[austere skiff]

do i really have to level her up

[full terrace]

If you are gonna borrow, borrow Narantuya, you only need to deploy her, activate her skill, and sleep

[austere skiff]

i dont want to

i need lmd for sash e2

💔

[sly drift]

@austere skiff Yea.. this already win.

Of course you're free to add more dps after Fang>Noir>Exu1>silence

[austere skiff]

do i really have to level up fang

[foggy grove]

borrow or bite it

[austere skiff]

im tight on resources rn

[sly drift]

Yea lmao.. borrow or bite it

[austere skiff]

fine ines it is

[pearl breach]

You do what you must

[fringe solstice]

3 stars are pretty cheap so it is 80k to lv 55 but yeah narantuya is a better borrow can solo the stage

[austere skiff]

I ONLY HAVE 50k

LEMUEN AND TRAG PINNED ME DOWN AND ROBBED ME OF EVERYTHING I HAD 💔💔💔💔

[sly drift]

Go borrow. Consider this urgent

[foggy grove]

how is your base actually

[pearl breach]

Bro struggling in this economy 🥀

[austere skiff]

like uh 40k a day

i dont have providi

provisi

proviso

fuck

[pearl breach]

You will have her in jan.

[full terrace]

Why the game gotta force me to waste the entire floor 😒

[fathom sedge]

What's a good placement for wisadel on jt8-3

[smoky halo]

freaky

[austere skiff]

s1 s2 or s3

[full terrace]

S1 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kwqyZV7B8N0&list=PLdcpPSF3owK7fAnWLXXn5LkPjr2t4u7tF&index=46&pp=gAQBiAQB

[autumn loom]

naran s1 sweeping as always

[fathom sedge]

Should have asked this before
Does the fast redeploy units need to be built at all

[wintry python]

hey guys, may i ask who maintence the roadless camelot?

[full terrace]

No, they are there just to counter Talulah mechanics, did you watch the video I linked or not

[austere skiff]

damn naratunya actually solo’d that stage

[fathom sedge]

Yes I was just wondering

[full terrace]

@regal frost brooo 😂😂

[regal frost]

Berlin wall

[full terrace]

Yah Rosmontis is way too broken. I'm not a big fan of skins, but if I bought you a skin, you are in my main team alright 😂

She replaces most of my blockers: Guard/Defender. That VTE stats are pretty high

[serene hornet]

The great wall of rosmontis

[full terrace]

And they can be spammed with useless excessive Sniper/Caster/Supporter Vouchers

[pearl compass]

Why you did copy me

That's my strat

[plucky grove]

wait how do you do this

[pearl compass]

Read Rosmontis talent on IS mod.

[plucky grove]

isnt it 1 vte per op?

[pearl compass]

Yes.

Moreover

BlazeAlter could trigger this via Reborn talent.

Both times enter and exit.

[fringe solstice]

yes, you can deploy as many sniper/caster as you want

[plucky grove]

oh arf literally just kept deploying and undeploying ops nvm yeah that makes sense

[plucky grove]

also huh???????????

[pearl compass]

[gray latch]

My healer 2 + tank (spot) bait combo in ad-8 is weak on survival against tragodia (melanthia survives)

Should I invest in Chester for his heal impairment talent

[pearl compass]

Chestnut?

[gray latch]

The wandering healer 4★yea

[fringe solstice]

probably not. he isn't a great healer. Honeyberry is better if you want to have a therapist healer

[pearl compass]

*Wandering

[fringe solstice]

oh yeah mb I forget the class names

[gray latch]

Is she alright at e0?

[pearl compass]

His strong skill is S1 and it's manual. He may distract you from important skill pressing.

[acoustic slate]

Just ignore them, she’s too expensive and chestnut is very bad

[gray latch]

I see

[gray latch]

I'm 10 red currency away from buying my first honeyberry

[acoustic slate]

Good, you can use them for chips for actually good ops🥹

[gray latch]

I ran out of pulls tho.. 😭

[acoustic slate]

You will get them

[sly drift]

How would you do it in practical scenario.

[gray latch]

The guys at #arknights told me stage 8 has great drop rates..

[sly drift]

It is. AD-8

[acoustic slate]

If you need alloy then yes, you should farm stage 8

[gray latch]

How about stages 6+7

Are the mats commonly used

[sly drift]

All active event material is great to farm.
Depends on what you need the most
Device>Alloy I think (?)

Device farm is insanely shit outside active event

[gray latch]

Is there a mat tierlist, like 'meta used these mats, farm more of these"

[fringe solstice]

It is probably worth using someone else for now. I checked kyo's low end and it uses a high hp bait (melanta, cardigan, etc) that can survive the nervous impairment burst and 2 healers.

[gray latch]

I invested in melanthia to be at 2.7k hp

[acoustic slate]

It depends on your needs, device is very safe to farm tho

[foggy grove]

e1 lv1 quartz has more hp than fraud mel

and she is a base slave

[gray latch]

I have base copy of her, pot 0

[pearl compass]

Just trigger her dying, so she spawns more pillars.

It was actually funny in Face-Off.

[gray latch]

Ohh she's 2k hp at e0lvl1

[sly drift]

0 def btw

[gray latch]

I guess she'll die easy

[sly drift]

Yes.. thing about huge hp 0 def is your medic can't keep up

But still there's some scenario where you prefer that kind of operator

[gray latch]

I have 5* medics ptilopsis and silent but haven't been able to E1 them yet

[sly drift]

What's ur medic

[gray latch]

E0 lvl50 silent and ptilopsis

I'm farm a couple of healer chips ig

[wispy ledge]

[sly drift]

Yea.. E1 Ptilopsis and Silence is quite priority (After your dps of course)

Skill 2 is very great

[gray latch]

Trust wise ptilopsis is 125% and silent is 175%

I dunno stat boosts

[sly drift]

Trust don't raise your stats after 100%

[gray latch]

Oic

[foggy grove]

boss does arts so it doesn't matter in this case

[wispy ledge]

anything after 100% is just if youre gonna have them as a support unit

[gray latch]

I have cardigan but uninvested

I have windscoot too he's 15 resist at uninvested

[sly drift]

What's your current squad

[gray latch]

E1l55 (lemuen melantha spot fang Kroos steward) e1l30 (mountain pinecone) e0l50 (silence ptilopsis) ellvl1 gravel

And maxed tequila with lvl 7 skills

[sly drift]

[gray latch]

I was trying to copy KyostinV low end clear

heal+tank after tragodia appears part

[wispy ledge]

btw e1 your ptilo cuz of her s2

just in general

[gray latch]

I was thinking of I should invest chestnut (4★ + impairment heal) vs my current healers (after farming chips)

I'll invest in ptilo

[acoustic slate]

He’s very bad, ptilopsis is worth it

[wispy ledge]

also forgot to mention ptilo needs her e1 anyways cuz her talent

[gray latch]

My chips farm luck pretty bad, is there other ways to farm chips

[wispy ledge]

+0.15 sp regen for every op i think for e1

[acoustic slate]

You will use all the chips, don’t worry

[pearl compass]

IS monthlies and RA shop. That's all.

[gray latch]

Ptilopsis s2 is better than s1

Is it

[surreal star]

yes

[sly drift]

Tecno mod good (?)

That +range on trait look noice

[pearl compass]

I didn't answer.

Return the question.

[full terrace]

Yo @regal frost

You remember that Phantom boss in IS2

[regal frost]

yes

[full terrace]

Well now you can just spam Rosmontis VTEs at him and anyone can burst him 😂

I just double stack VTEs on him

[regal frost]

I've been bullying him with exu and lemuen

[full terrace]

Idk why Rosmontis is extremely broken in most stages in IS2

[regal frost]

using trag against him always fun

[full terrace]

You spam the VTEs faster than the enemies could destroy them

And each VTE is like 900 Def 7k HP

[regal frost]

I should using ros ig

[plucky grove]

it never occured to me that they dont disappear when you retreat anyone that isnt ros

[full terrace]

She was broken in IS3 too, but not to this extent

[plucky grove]

this goes super hard i hate this stage

[full terrace]

That Wisadel I didnt even activate her skill the entire stage 😏

Just auto attacking

[plucky grove]

i wish i had ros gonna be another year though

shes a good starter i assume? so fine to borrow

[full terrace]

7k HP 900 Def, thats like a Hoshi

So you basically spam Hoshi everywhere

😂

[sly drift]

What?

Has this always been like this?

Key just for withdrawing my own money?

[full terrace]

Ya she is a good starter for IS2 if you run the Sniper/Medic squad. It's not like there is any good squad to use anyway

[plucky grove]

yea iirc

[plucky grove]

good to know definitely gonna be borrowing more

[pearl compass]

For IS3 yes.

The rest is without that feature.

[plucky grove]

it is a little silly i think

good thing withdrawing isnt too important usually

[wispy ledge]

rosmontis better support than walter?

[full terrace]

Not particularly

Wis is a very strong dps

Ros is mainly for ground blocking

[sly drift]

Nah bro I'm not surviving D18, what the fk is this overglazed aura even about 😭😭😭

[wintry python]

im not sure i can pass this stage so pls help me

[sly drift]

It's anti air check. If you kill the drone too close to your operator. It will drop and explode, dealing huge damage and nervous impairment if you play high diff.

[wintry python]

im playing at diff 7

havent unlock higher diff

[sly drift]

Shouldn't be a problem with your ops.

Unless you blunder heavily

It's possible to blunder because your only anti air is Exu

[wintry python]

just guide me i have no idea to deal with this stage

[south spindle]

Socks already gave you a stage set up

Exu will take care of almost everything just turn off her skill after each wave

Only have Wisadel skill if you fuck up Exu timing some how

[pearl compass]

Barrier with additional HP

Which equals his MaxHP

Unless you stun him endlessly, you're doomed to lose to him.

[sly drift]

Actual jumpscare is DP regen severely slower

I completely forgot

[lime lantern]

are you starting with wis or vanguards first?

[golden merlin]

good op for jungle sss? need clear in 2h

quest it's

[sly drift]

Chongyue works pretty well on my run

[foggy grove]

wis s1?

[somber falcon]

Just fyi it's only rewards refresh not stage cycling
It'll still be here for like a few months

[golden merlin]

reward for clear jungle with eun becon will available?

[glass monolith]

She is empowered by every time we farmed her for module mission

[golden merlin]

but ain't those stage will gone in 2h?

[foggy grove]

no

it reset the stick rewards

stage and quest itself will stay for like 13 weeks

[glass monolith]

I remember times when those sticks were refreshing every 2 weeks

[lapis hornet]

they don't anymore?

[glass monolith]

it is once per month now, because even they must have realized how cringe it is

[lapis hornet]

zamn

[edgy eagle]

i did it with logos s1 plus ascalon, the whole thing is just an aoe check

[full stream]

boss flops against physical tho

[glass monolith]

Just play boss us intended instead giving him 50 tiles of slug spawning. I don't fucking recall mechanic of that boss

[edgy eagle]

that boss isnt threatening enough to really care admittedly i also debuffed it with saria

the hardest part about that boss is just managing its aoe check which isnt hard if you just use aoe ops

[lapis hornet]

just

reedic it

npnp

wis s1/s3

[glass monolith]

Ascalon sugarcoat exploding spiders

[lapis hornet]

asca is fine if you can manage the ranged/ground split

[queen axle]

wisadel s1 monster s3 5 stack sniper team should clear easily

[foggy grove]

asca on high ground

[modern kiln]

How should I utilize phantom alt s2?

[glass monolith]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/511223357153214484/1439074271757602896/Phantom-Arknights-Arknights--9153891.gif

Braindead spam cats at enemies unless it is not helping then actually strategize usage of cats

[modern kiln]

Ok

[spice mortar]

see big scary enemy walk towards you
Cat
Problem solved

[golden merlin]

this getting out of hand, should spam on enem BZzZz paralyzed

[gray latch]

How good are mitm (vanguard) and bubble the guard

[astral cosmos]

bubble is a defender

mitm is ok but too expensive to raise
bubble works but cuora is better

[gray latch]

How much invest would bubble need

[glass monolith]

Mitm pet can be used to bait few hits, I wonder if manual retreat of his pet can solo bait JT8-3

[gray latch]

What's jt8_3

Current event?

[pure orchid]

dont need to raise mitm 🤫

[stoic egret]

Can I borrow hoolheyak, so hard to find

[gray latch]

The suicide summon sounds cool

[pure orchid]

its really useful, u can even undeploy to have bodies on command

[glass monolith]

Chapter 8 boss (It has letters before chapter number because... Reasons )

[astral cosmos]

mitm is awesome yeah

[glass monolith]

Only thing I dislike is his name, keep saying Mint on my end

[pure orchid]

greyy slug duty :ya:

someone remind me to do mountain modY1

[finite fractal]

is there any other ways to get chip catalists?

[glass monolith]

Outside getting dragged into AP-5 mines? Not much, i think some IS/RA have few free, but if you plan to promote alot - Go into AP-5

[worldly oak]

i am currently stuck at tululah, I either don’t understand her mechanics or my operators are just not fit for her

[glass monolith]

8-2 or 8-3?

[worldly oak]

8-3, I think

it’s 8-3

[worn root]

blow up the boss from anywhere on the map with lemuen and sheese the fireballs with logos

[worldly oak]

I usually die in the first phase

[glass monolith]

She spams (Like every 20 seconds or so) burn on 2 last deployed not burning operators which last longer than 20 seconds. Also she sometimes explodes all currently burning operators which spread burn to 4 adjusted tiles. Burn do true damage.

[worn root]

burns 2 ops every 19 seconds, fast redeploys have an 18 second redeployment timer

[worldly oak]

I know this but for some reason my ines doesn’t burn when I deploy her first and another vanguard like texas burns instead?

[glass monolith]

Ines s2 activates "fuck my teammates i am not baiting" invis

[worldly oak]

Oh

No wonder she

That makes so much sense

Thank you

[frosty void]

Right i am having a headache with ad-7 so where doi put the ops in general?

[queen axle]

have high tile ops directing the camera to the right

[frosty void]

So i use exu for the early stuff?

[queen axle]

yeah just plop her down

u got tragodia too

[glass monolith]

Someone activate camera to look right to slow down films, then bucnh of ranged units. You will be assaulted by cages to you want to kill as much of them as possible unless losing stage because your DPS more interested in shooting cages 40 times is on your todo list

[queen axle]

and have tragodia kill those camera blockers things with s2

[lime lantern]

i pointed both up and down

[queen axle]

[lime lantern]

need help on h13-4

some runs just die before boss does anything some runs die to random slug leaks

or whatever the small things are caled

[queen axle]

i should start doing h stages

[lime lantern]

i shouldn't

[queen axle]

[lime lantern]

no true aoe is fucking awful here

[scarlet fulcrum]

not even humus or pinecone?

[void terrace]

Damn using Yu shu and tragodia is hillarious

The pure ammount of control is stupid

[lime lantern]

theyre not raised so

[worn root]

yu s3 can allow tragodia's cat deal burn instead of NI

[void terrace]

Yeah that too

[lime lantern]

the ragebaiters

[spice mortar]

Too bad you cant bully crownslayer even more with trag

[void terrace]

Yu teleports them in and gathers, then phantom lures them back out

[spice mortar]

Actually wait you can probably bully her more

[scarlet fulcrum]

Thats minimum requirements, surely u have better options

[void terrace]

Shu just casually just sends themnto the ricefields

[void terrace]

I mean his cat one shots normal crownslayer...

[spice mortar]

Ah fuck you cant

Unfortunate

I guess he could only bind then

But would probably still kill and you dont want to bind in crownslayer bullying

[glass monolith]

I swear just return with more stuff when no sanity loss on defeat is added

[lime lantern]

i think eblana borrow is cooking harder than wisadel

[scarlet fulcrum]

So is this 2nd phase or?

[lime lantern]

yeah

well idk some runs die before first phase

the others die at second

[sly drift]

Didn't know Eblana borrow is a thing

[lime lantern]

what

why not

[scarlet fulcrum]

Did u clean all 70 ish or smt mobs first?

[lime lantern]

yeah

my closest run was killing the boss then leaking 2 of the small thingies

[scarlet fulcrum]

idr the kill count tbh, is it 76 or 75

[lime lantern]

75

[scarlet fulcrum]

👌

[pure orchid]

welp, ofc irene mod can make me cut heidi

steward is kinda useful tho

[scarlet fulcrum]

Just prepare logos s1 for his poops then focus on the boss. If thats really ur problem. Or just timing the bombcharts and dps him

Old school way

U prepare bombcharts before he eat the platform

[lime lantern]

uhh

okay i got it

missed the bomb timing so i had to like take 3 years to stall him and tickle him to death

fuck that stage

[scarlet fulcrum]

Bomb not that important with those ops but yea sure

[lime lantern]

well no its still

pretty impactful

[glass monolith]

Well your fault for not having hyper specific characters making it several times easier to get over early set up

[lime lantern]

lemuen s3 does like 5% of his hp without the bomb

[scarlet fulcrum]

Its 90% dr

[lime lantern]

yes exactly

i dont see why it wouldnt be important for any op

[scarlet fulcrum]

ulpian trivialize it for example

[lime lantern]

huh why

[scarlet fulcrum]

Free dozen of heals

[lime lantern]

what about the

90 dr

[glass monolith]

Execute slap on H13-3

[scarlet fulcrum]

Oh welp the -3 variant different yea

I remember someone did with ulpian stall before his mod arrives, welp its 2025 now. We have bunch of goodies

[pure orchid]

bruh

[worn root]

You did beat it right

[pure orchid]

yeah

i even did it again

i thought getting one first disarm would make a huge difference, but no its really just RNG hell for that 10% disarm

[vast zodiac]

How to farm LMD at a faster rate? I'm burning through it fast than I'm getting from the Base (2 Fac and 2 Trading post)

[dapper hedge]

You dont farm lmd outside anywhere base is your main source

Else farm event and trade the lmd in shop its like 600~700k or smt (dont trade the infinity stock lmd)

[young fog]

I've been struggling with 9-19 for awhile now. Does anyone have any tips on countering Mandragora?

[somber falcon]

drop pillars on her

[full terrace]

Literally drop the pillars on her. She has Damage Reduction from her shields if you didnt do so

Once you pillar her, she becomes vulnerable for a short period of time

Rain your dps on her then

[wintry python]

this is anni 22 (decaying wastes) and im trying to replace wis with my ops, any idea guys?

[vast zodiac]

But what's the optimal base building setup for LMD?

[patent canyon]

How much damage do you need (roughly) to break Documents shield? Trying to beat SP15 but my pool for usable operators is getting quite small

[glass monolith]

More what you did

[void terrace]

Send ops

A single lemuen barrage with most shots landing can crack his sheild no buffs

Fully built tho

[patent canyon]

Lemeun is on my main mechanist kill team though, that's where im stuck

https://www.krooster.com/u/oerbius

[void terrace]

Also tragodia is a godsend for enimity units. Being able to instantly take pressure off them makes stuff like zuole much more usable

Arguably shamare too

Tragodia shamare is such a dumb combo

[patent canyon]

And most of my big hitters are either reserved for main team (ulpi, lemuen, monster) or already gsrrisoned (penance, kal, Schwarz, etc)

[void terrace]

It neuters bosses globally

Raise yu

Use yu to gather everyone right in the front

[patent canyon]

Working on it but he's already garrisoned

Had to burn him on another stage im using

[void terrace]

Brainless set up

Just ungarrisom him

[glass monolith]

Shield ends if hit with 3500 hit

[void terrace]

That yu tile infront is super useful

[foggy grove]

with buff you don't even need yu

[void terrace]

It lets you block all 3 lanes on a single choke

[foggy grove]

just kill everything fast

[void terrace]

Oh right i forgot about buffs

[foggy grove]

like exu and mon3tr duo

[void terrace]

I did the whole event with no buffs

[red spire]

What buffs are you using?

[foggy grove]

100% atk aspd is broken

initial sp has funny shenanigan with mon3tr

[glass monolith]

i used broken buff on C and D stages cuz i couldn't be bothered

[queen axle]

vec12 vec c and d are so ass

[foggy grove]

it's snooze with buff

[queen axle]

yeah ofc

i couldnt clear vec12 without the buff though cause roster check

[pseudo hinge]

@pure orchid

[pure orchid]

hmmmmm

have u tried the stage yet

[pseudo hinge]

ye

a lot

with wisadel

[pure orchid]

what was the problem

[pseudo hinge]

the bigass motherfucks

[pure orchid]

were there trees

[pseudo hinge]

just killed everyone

[vital arrow]

use the roombas

[pure orchid]

if the problem came from top right

just plug the box

[pseudo hinge]

i did against the tree looking people

it doesnt affect them

[vital arrow]

did you use the stun module

well not stun

the bounce module

[pure orchid]

yeah theyre uhh invisible on tiles with the blue stuff

[pseudo hinge]

BOMX

[vital arrow]

right

[pseudo hinge]

thats what the module is called

and S3

[vital arrow]

bounce module on the roomba

not on your operator

[pure orchid]

i can barely remember this stage hollup

[pseudo hinge]

huh

[vital arrow]

the roombas can be outfitted with modules

the buffs

[pure orchid]

i do not want to deal with SN UI rn

jfc

[pseudo hinge]

i just want the specter module

hehe

this is my squad

not this

wait

[pure orchid]

yeah borrow ulpi and just plug up the box

[pseudo hinge]

ok

[pseudo hinge]

whats the order of placement btw

lol

[pure orchid]

ascalon tuta ulpi saria

[pseudo hinge]

alr

[pure orchid]

u got 8 more slots, dont sweat it

[pseudo hinge]

no 3* but finished it

letsgoo

[pure orchid]

uh, congrats i guess

ur gonna come back for that lol

[crude basalt]

how do i beat h12-4

the boss keep insta killing me

[glass monolith]

Instakilled with what move

[crude basalt]

the uhh

the summon hand thing

this

[glass monolith]

Suffer

[crude basalt]

hand holding pls

[glass monolith]

I don't know how to counter them outside being stacked on healing when they happen

[crude basalt]

it been 6 hours save me

[crude basalt]

she do it twice

i want to borrow nightigale but can't

already borrow ulpianus

[glass monolith]

Boss do it infinity times, every what 40 seconds?

[glass monolith]

Oh right you don't place stuff adjusted in 4 tiles, right?

[crude basalt]

closest i got

[glass monolith]

Oh god he clustered them

[crude basalt]

i can stream my suffering

[glass monolith]

M3 gets hit by AoE 3 times

[crude basalt]

i am so close

so

wht the plan

[glass monolith]

Wait, boss is 1 seal or what leaked?

[crude basalt]

killed upipi up top

1 of the spy leaked

[crude basalt]

life without effa berry

[glass monolith]

(clear 2: DR stacking boogaloo) #strategy message
Who needs berries anyway when AHism exists

[crude basalt]

you know

I would use them if i have them

[glass monolith]

Fair, anyways, one point i want to kroos - that global move bullshit hurt extra if units adjusted

[crude basalt]

welo let see

[crude basalt]

i might have a plan

[full terrace]

Bro look at that @regal frost

I mean it's only d13, I'm still climbing to d15 but man.. IS2 feels so much easier

Or Lemuen is just craycray

[narrow pendant]

Skinless skadi 🫵

[full terrace]

Skadi is not in my main team 😏

[glass monolith]

If she spins she works for me

[narrow pendant]

Base skadi doesnt spin in her s2

[glass monolith]

deploy spin

[glass monolith]

Ok F you, i know boss dodge is only like 40%, but for me he just dodges everything

[full terrace]

When I saw my Lemu took the Bladedance (+100% ATK) I knew she gonna nuke the boss hard

So I went ahead and nuke right away without deploying Ela for Fragile

😂 😂

[thorn zinc]

Wtf am i supposed to do on vec8

All my characters get fucking bombed and theres nothing i can about it

[crude basalt]

nope

i cnsulted the god

the boss nuke me nontherless

silvergun 4* only still elude me

[spice mortar]

This is machinist right?

Just bait the bombs

[crude basalt]

i hate it

[patent karma]

¿who maxxed now ?

[wintry gulch]

Who to build? Mlynar mod, Ines, Eyjaberry, Naran, Zuo Le

Angelina for IS ig

[unkempt lintel]

unmodded mostima

[patent karma]

What modde you recommend me?

[unkempt lintel]

she still go with more slow module

[patent karma]

Uh?

[unkempt lintel]

that should be mody yeh

-8dp cost
level give her more slows

[patent karma]

And why zuo le

[wintry gulch]

He’s good

Self sustain, good damage, aoe/stun on s3, great lanehold on s2

[spice mortar]

Build shu too

[wintry gulch]

Holy fuck I didn’t even see Shu

Istg this is first time I’ve ever seen e0lv1 Shu and Eyjaberry 😭

[unkempt lintel]

i think he would do module first unless he wont use those e2s

poor souls raised but not getting love 🥹

[drowsy phoenix]

If i use the buff with penance do i get plus ultra def

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I build this little girls?

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donkey

[spice mortar]

En player communicating in the wild, a precious sight

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??

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Stop spamming emotes

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[drowsy phoenix]

Help

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So, First eyjafjalla? Or Shu

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Between those two shu cuz shes better

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Why

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Because i told you

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[spice mortar]

Eyja heals and heals element dmg

Shu heals, defends, regens, teleports, etc

[fringe solstice]

vanguards, although I have masteries on my myrtle and ines so you might have different results.

[spice mortar]

Both are good

But shu prob better

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She is
Eyja dying with haruka

Except for elem dmg ig but that shit is ignorable

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Who that

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Other 6* with hoshi on banner

[drowsy phoenix]

Shu

[fringe solstice]

@lime lantern supreme bullying

I messed up the timings for the bombs

good thing phant alter s2 is busted

deployment order is myrtle --> ines (where gummy is) --> wisadel s3 undeploy shadow (where ptilopsis is) --> logos --> exu2 --> phant2, ptilopsis --> use cat for annihilators --> lemuen (with s3) --> silverash, gummy (to bait the mist)

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Doing wave 2 fairly

[lime lantern]

same

[void terrace]

Realisticly how viable is SA s1

I want him on my team for the redeploy cooldown and am thinking of using him outside of helidrop s3

His s1 scales stupidly well with aspd in IS but i wonder if i can achieve similar effects with monst3r/aak/shu

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my stall kings

[wicked minnow]

if you wanna use them for that specifically i think there's a fair point to be made of just wait for SA2

SA2 talent gives -20% redeployment timer once he is placed

[void terrace]

Hmm do they stack additively?

Also just trying to figure out if sa s1 is even usable itself

[plucky grove]

eyjalter makes elemental damage seem like a suggestion instead of a mechanic

honestly quite incredible

[wicked minnow]

without sash e1 or sash2: 35s 70s
with sash e1: 33s 66s
with sash2: 28s 56s
with both: 26.4s 52.8s

2 tests with puzzle and tequilla

it seems to be neither additive nor multiplicative

somewhere in the middle

unless the redployment timer is lying

OOOOOOOO

wait i got it

the sash2 redeployment reduction applies after sash1 redeployment reduction

but sash1 redeployment reduction reduction rounds down (?)

sash2 doesnt seem to do that

so 70(1-0.05) = 66.5

in-game it's just 66.0

sash2 talent then applies so 66(1-0.2) = 52.8

no clue if sash e2 talent works the same with e2 or with module but that's how it works out in this case