strategy

[worn root]

with shamera doll or skill

[void terrace]

Mechanist in vec 12 is a whole different level of juiced up

Shamare doll skill is clutch

[worn root]

yeh, expecting that

[glass monolith]

Oh right shamare has ATK down, thing I remembered like twice

[worn root]

lemme just see how well angie opens the stage

[glass monolith]

Beach episode next to volcano eruption.
Enemy: Robot with snow particle effects because it was from snow event

[worn root]

ok, she opens pretty decently, but I need others to help

with the rest of the bots

got an opener for the drone swarm, just gotta deal with the lancer

[glass monolith]

Lancer loops at least 3 times I think, never let him loop more

[worn root]

these were the only 2 times I used ling in this entire event

[glass monolith]

Demn

[worn root]

the problem with ling is that she's expensive with s3 and her other skills don't do much

s3 ling was used in VEC 4 cause it was easy and s1 was used in VEC 7 to cheese the flowers

I tried using ling s2 in VEC 11 but it was kinda clunky to know when to deploy her

plus maggie was just better in that stage

[strange palm]

I looked on arkrec and my yt frontend for clear ideas and the recommendations I saw all included at least two units I was either missing outright or multiple units I don't have the resources to build. Can someone offer me any help for either clearing the S-stages or EX-5 through 7 today with my roster as it currently is? A map would be helpful since both video guide locations are too small and low-quality to see on my laptop

[glass monolith]

Arkrec is rec(ord) for reason. It is usually min maxed to hell

[vocal leaf]

what is the record for male only vec 12?

[worn root]

there is non on arkrec

[vocal leaf]

[glass monolith]

Nobody uploaded one to arkrec but most of arcrec are week 2 buff clears which are FUCKING 2 OP????

[worn root]

both supporter only cleasrs are 2 op

[vocal leaf]

well i’ve seen some clears in salt mines, i already did mine but im optimizing it

[worn root]

ling's dragons with passive hp recovery are pretty fucking stupid

[worn root]

I'm trying to work out my supporter only one

[vocal leaf]

vec 12?

[worn root]

yeh

just beaten VEC-11

.

[vocal leaf]

you need texas?

[worn root]

extra dp

all my non welfare 6 stars are pot 1 outside of stainless and maggie

[glass monolith]

Is texas just allowed or it is "only to compensate missing -DP pots and no luck otherwise"? I never bothered with ruleset

[vocal leaf]

#salt-mines message i think im going to replace matterhorn for mik

[worn root]

any clear I see with texas (that doesn't use her in the niche) just have her chilling in squad

[vocal leaf]

oh and removed tinman for harold

wish i had nowell

[worn root]

why did you have tinman in the first place?

isn't thorns alt just better for healing with s1 or s2

[glass monolith]

i know she chills in squad for 2 DP, i mean if you have everyone pot 6, does it means texas DP is banned because there is no DP pots you missing?

[worn root]

there are some clears that you might need the extra 2 dp despite eveyone being max pot

[vocal leaf]

healing, he also boost damage by little bit in one single part

[vocal leaf]

let’s not talk about my pulling experience during his banner

[worn root]

maleknights will just have everything other than snipers and AOE medics

[vocal leaf]

i almost miss yu for stupid thorns, i got yu from a free pull

[glass monolith]

170 here. Now i know 150+ pity works

[worn root]

I'm just hoping my luck for the next banner isn't shit

cause I got exu alter in first ten

[full terrace]

Most of us will just recommend you a clear with a borrow especially if you are new, not many of us have the time for 1 on 1 handholding session, especially not when you dont want to borrow. We are here to help, not to make everyone feels good about their clear, you want to clear stages with your own units thats your choice I respect that, but if you choose to do that, you clearly want to play the game and asking for a handholding session defeats exactly that point because technically it's others that played for you. And as of now, you are basically asking to be spoonfed these stages, you dont even know where went wrong because, my guess is, you havent even tried doing one yourself. How do you expect people to start with that? From S-5? From S-4? At the opening? At the final wave? You wanted to play with your own units because you wanna have fun thats good, now play it like you have decided to: study the video recommended to you, see what that particular unit is doing in that strat, and then substitute him/her with your own unit, as long as their role is the same you will get similar performance, better yet if the guide gives you a number of free slots which can use to draft extra units to help.

[vocal leaf]

thorns ruined my orundum economy for this year

i didn’t even get him

[glass monolith]

I sit on 300 pulls with decision paralyze

[worn root]

can't sankta miksaparato just 1v1 mechanist with s3 and a healer?

[vocal leaf]

s2 is better for tanking, at least p1

[glass monolith]

Does S2 consume ammo for normal attacks?

[worn root]

yeh, and to not die

[vocal leaf]

mik can reach +2k defense with s2

[hoary crypt]

hello, idk if this is the right channel, but where can i find an optimal guide for combo/rotation on the base? thanks!

[vocal leaf]

#r-i-i-c look piña

piña

pins

[hoary crypt]

thanks!

[cyan plover]

the love for pine apple's incredible

[worn root]

lemme see if stainless can face tank the lancer with a turret behind him

[glass monolith]

isn't that lancer does arts damage?

Also roberta device to cancel out speed based attack

[worn root]

oh right, I forgot about the shield buff

any of my artificers can tank a high speed attack

[glass monolith]

As lnog as you have 2 shield I forgot if speed based attack comes first or second, all i know it is separated damage instance

[worn root]

I might still use stainless for giraffe though

[worn root]

I wanna drop roberta right ontop of mechanist so he's in range of virtuosa's necrosis when skill is active

I might just let the lancer do the full 3 laps and then drop stainless, so I can focus on setting up my other supporters

[astral cosmos]

doesnt virt still get targeted by mechanist

[worn root]

ok, I need the image of the map

[glass monolith]

I know Mechanist don't reach 2 lefttop ranged tiles if he blocked right away, i don't know if splitbox keep top left save

[worn root]

if mechanist is facing towards the person he's being blocked by it's fine

[glass monolith]

And it is not fine at least his amount of damage guarantee quick and painful death

[worn root]

can't find the map and map ark

[glass monolith]

brb

[void terrace]

Does mechanist 3x3 nuke prioritise the unit he is being blocked by?

[astral cosmos]

so iirc no

from experience

I've had him make my faraway ranged units explode with that skill

[glass monolith]

Who the fuck put them into side events https://map.ark-nights.com/map/act1break_12

[noble pewter]

No last deploy n doesn't matter if he being blocked n it only happen for p1 after that he loses that ability

[regal frost]

hi lego

[worn root]

why???

[regal frost]

how'd the chilchuk strat go?

[noble pewter]

Couldn't find one, nor any yu

[void terrace]

I kinda cheese phase 1 with yu and lemuen

Teleported both of them onto a tile and lemu nuked them

Once sheild was down

[noble pewter]

I cleared with this in the end

[glass monolith]

mudmud

[astral cosmos]

wat does chilchuck do here

oh right the high tide

[noble pewter]

Nah I was thinking I could use him as a bait n he has phy dodge maybe get dp n tank mechanist a little

[astral cosmos]

hmmm, the high tide doesn't do dmg right

[glass monolith]

i think it does but it is so low that you will notice elemental burst more

[worn root]

this is how I'm setting it up for mechanist

[astral cosmos]

idt it does

i mean i don't remember it doing anything other than corrosion buildup

[noble pewter]

No dmg according to wiki, just corro buildup

N lower atk spd

[glass monolith]

I figured it without need for map

[astral cosmos]

yeah so folinic doesn't work for high tide then

too bad, schizo usage dropped

back to square 0

[worn root]

yeh, abjuerer's ranges are quite quirky

this is the only good spot for quercus

[astral cosmos]

this is supporter only w/o summoners? (didn't backread for context)

[limpid ore]

mostly the reason of their range is because HG wants abjurer to be opposite of hexer

[worn root]

unsure rn

but it might be doable without summoners

[pearl breach]

the build up deals no dmg but they deal like 800 dmg when the gauge fills up

[astral cosmos]

[glass monolith]

He dont print DP so i am not sure he can do alot of summons

[astral cosmos]

no arkrec records for w/o summoners yet?

[worn root]

nope

[astral cosmos]

mm

[worn root]

there are 2 using ling but those are week 2 buffs iirc

[glass monolith]

Arkrec don't really split week 1 and 2 and all records are week 2 ling abuse

[worn root]

^

[astral cosmos]

ya, that isn't counted as environmental tho so doesnt work

[worn root]

here it is with shamare as well

could move her to the right by 1

[pearl breach]

no show for follinic again 🥹

[astral cosmos]

:pensive:

[glass monolith]

If you do something like summon bait on 3x3 you could in theory have roberta in corner

Actually fuck it, if roberta survive 3x3, just assemble cursed set up where she is corner and Quercus/Virtuosa not on top left tile

[worn root]

virt can't reach without skill

any closer and she's pretty much dead

unless...

[glass monolith]

How about uh... Bait 3x3 with retreat then virtuosa then Roberta in corner order

[worn root]

could split here

virt can also cover all 3 lanes with necorsis

mostly bottom for giraffe and mid for whatever else

and ofc mechanist

[astral cosmos]

quercus won't explode right
surely -atk downtime covers everything

[worn root]

lemme chech the radius

[astral cosmos]

i mean i believe she survives if mechanist has -atk debuff while he procs skill

but without...

[frozen hull]

Guys how do you kill mechanist (vec-4)

[glass monolith]

He throws in chapter 10-ish cannon range so deploy order is bitch

[worn root]

the 3x3 nuke won't reach quercus it seems

so as long I place doll when he starts it I should be fine maybe

gonna need suzu for sp recovery

I could place stainless behind virt for lancer and giraffe

there's also no safe spaces for suzuran though since the other tiles are gonna be where machinist is gonna blow up or have the lava cracks

[vocal leaf]

p1 is relatively clean and easy and then p2 is a mess

[glass monolith]

Without roster image for options best i can offer is Arf message where he summarized bursting of boss (all versions) #strategy message

[worn root]

oh yeh, I need to position for the cross attack

[astral cosmos]

actually

im not very well versed in the total dmg of mechanist nuke

[full terrace]

I'm not sure either but

[glass monolith]

(Looking up PRTS)

[full terrace]

Ulpi dies if you dont have Gladiia giving him +30% DR

He doesnt if he has Gladiia backing him up

[astral cosmos]

catherine device on ranged unit
surely tanks :glueless:

alright nvm if ulpi dies everyone does

[worn root]

8 instances of 80% of 1200, but his attack may be more than what it says on the wiki

[full terrace]

Also I found that Defense is really good there

Because Physical damage and Mechanist attack is not that high

[glass monolith]

Give me 1 second

[full terrace]

Like 80% x 1200 is 960 per hit, if you got a Defender with 1000 Defense then..

[pearl breach]

So hoshi I guess? Esp since she has a 25% resist

[full terrace]

I guess

What I know is that

@wicked minnow tried with his povertyknights

And Bison survived

...barely

How much Defense Bison have again?

[worn root]

depends

[vocal leaf]

hung is very good too, probably better because self heal

and mody

[full terrace]

Oh I remember Shileds also said

[worn root]

at max it's 781 def I think

[full terrace]

"Miksaparato basically just neutralizes that"

[topaz tapir]

I'll try this hold on

[worn root]

but his talent gives extra def

[vocal leaf]

mik +2k defense

[worn root]

if a vanguard/ guard is placed behind

[pearl breach]

Hung survives so I bet hoshi s2 will make it. I just had my concern with corrosion stuff. Maybe giving her bubbles/ exu s3 will solve the issue.

[worn root]

isn't +80% def not enough?

[worn root]

pray to god roberta with shamera doll tanks it

[glass monolith]

It is 8x80%. used THRICE

[proven garnet]

i understand spalter can block mechanist and not die immediately?

[haughty flower]

"Block" until she doesn't.

[proven garnet]

ive never used her before so how would i go about making that a thing

[full terrace]

Yes and per hit is 960 damage, with 1000 Defense then you get:
3 x (8 x 80% x (960-1000)) guess how much

[glass monolith]

If it is not defender with decent DEF or Ulp with DR stacking no

[proven garnet]

also i have ela mines if i need to slow him down

[worn root]

if I did my maths right, it's three instances of 7680 physical damage

[haughty flower]

The simple problem with Spalter is 2 different parts of her kit:
On death, her doll doesn't block and has a fixed timer
S2, the one that makes her unkillable, switches her to doll form

[glass monolith]

Still 1152 DRless due 5% ATK rule

[proven garnet]

hmm maybe im misremembering

[full terrace]

Ye

And plenty of Defenders will survive that

If healed properly

[vocal leaf]

it’s enough but you can notice the difference, s2 is better, more defensive

[glass monolith]

Well not all defenders just have 1k def offskill / 30 second cycle But i am out of context what is blocking

[worn root]

me only using supporters

[full terrace]

Cuora E1 max onskill is 1000 def 😂

Errr

1216 or something

Lemme double check

[lapis hornet]

spalter better off with some'kinda extra slow/cc to keep enemy in block range

yt vids using logos + ceobe s1 looks like

[full terrace]

Yep Cuora E1 Lv60 max Trust SL7 is 1216 Defense

[proven garnet]

ela?

[open vault]

why is VEC 12 so ridiculous...

[proven garnet]

and/or wisadel turrets?

[full terrace]

I remember that because I abused that to tank Assassin's first hit

For a 6 HP leftover

[glass monolith]

Me checking for how many hits skill does with DEF recovery idk I was bored

[worn root]

roberta gotta tank 11520 (with shamare doll) damage every time mechanist uses the nuke

[glass monolith]

Because content for endgamers who endgaming for trim medal

It is not Path of Exile with recover % of damage blocked by DEF over 4 seconds on equipment

Can you have Shamare doll on each cycle of this 30 second BS, do you have enough DEF to minimaze it so roberta alive

[worn root]

with necrosis procs, hopefully

haven't taken that into account yet

[glass monolith]

Victorian gundam - 2700 x3 on single target
Elite RI Mechanic when sober - 960 x24 in 3x3 aoe

[worn root]

shamare doll comes back every 30 secs + the 0.4 seconds of increased sp recovery as long as suzuran is on the field

[glass monolith]

What is Roberta defs (Off skill + device / On skill / On skill + device)

[worn root]

at mod stage 2 it's +39%

[glass monolith]

I'm not booting up excel i need answers

[haughty flower]

I think regardless of how you cut this, roberta starts with like guard/lowest end defender def.

[worn root]

I need to fucking use a calculator

[glass monolith]

Drop her on field and look up

[worn root]

XD

time to go to 0-1

[haughty flower]

Can't you just go into a vec stage?

[worn root]

I don't wanna mess around with my opener just to check robertas def

[glass monolith]

Oh he means like actual 0-1 stage? I assumed he already have score board against VEC-12

[worn root]

XD

also my roberta is at 75% trust

so..

[haughty flower]

Can I ask why we're stuck with Roberta anyways

[glass monolith]

Supporter only

[astral cosmos]

my roberta is 200% trust mod3 m6 lv70

i can check

[haughty flower]

Ofc it is

[worn root]

with device: 714
skill w/o device: 925
skill w device: 1126

for my roberta

[haughty flower]

Which stage is this for again? 4, 8, or 12?

[worn root]

12

[astral cosmos]

if thats not enough and u arent borrowing anyone else u can borrow mine

[worn root]

nah, I have to borrow quercus cause I don't own one

[astral cosmos]

is the quercus ur borrowing good

[worn root]

max lvl pot 1 s1m3 mod 3

[glass monolith]

So on skill she can survive without device and shamare and off skill need device and shamare doll is what i get

[worn root]

ig pot 4 for talent upgrade is nice but it might be fine (hopefully)

[dusty island]

bruh wtf am i supposed to do in mt s 3 those stupid fuckin marksman wont die

[worn root]

I also got virt applying necrosis so at times I can prolly get away with just doll or device

[haughty flower]

Tank them. There's a number of high-end defenders capable with a healer on them.

[full terrace]

It's a burst check so use ops that have super high dph

Necrass for example, 800% Arts Damage

[haughty flower]

That, or just as arf noted do burst instead. Lots of it.

[worn root]

plus I' gonna need catherine for either bottom or middle so I can just use her device instead of robertas

[full terrace]

And those enemies are weak to Arts

[lilac steppe]

Is this roberta for niche clear? Want to see it if any video

[worn root]

supporter only, I'll provide a screenshot when (and if) I beat it

[astral cosmos]

so shes shit
u can borrow mine she's p6

[pearl breach]

Clear the nurturer around the top left.
Prepare the bait for the bullet.
Spawn kill the sniper.

[worn root]

aight bet

[dusty island]

I cant the only shredder who actually kills the damn marksman is ex alter but i need her to shred the swordsman near my point lemon wont lock the marks and neither will w alter

[worn root]

that extra sanctuary hopefully will come in clutch

[haughty flower]

If you have both lemon and walter just use them to clear out the lower half of the healer stack in the bottom right.

Sync their skill activations and assuming lemon and wis are both on s3 you'll be fine.

[proven garnet]

ok im absolutely missing a memo here
i assume i want to get both mechanist and the boston dynamics dog to go down at the same time twice in a row

[glass monolith]

I didn't S-3 yet so i can't comment if Lunacub ftw

[haughty flower]

From there healing on the bottom is drastically reduced and you can start retaking the map from down there.

[proven garnet]

and i want to do that while playing sudoku with my operators?

[worn root]

who's sending friend request?

[haughty flower]

Lunacub won't work due to the frankly ridiculous hps from a healer stack on the map.

[lilac steppe]

My imagination sucks, cant watch a screenshot 🙂

[worn root]

I ain't recording a vid on mobile dawg 😭

[pearl breach]

Screen capture my lads

[glass monolith]

Fuck

[haughty flower]

Have fun trying to use lunacub on this.

[glass monolith]

"This single chamber rifle has 38 more shells in it"

[haughty flower]

They also won't move until the end of the stage roughly, so give up on hoping they move one by one.

[fiery carbon]

This was actually painful to play

[pearl breach]

I mean. Bro got like a squad of 20 to help them reload.

[proven garnet]

how does mechanist target the beam and the clusters, are they both just usual "target in range that's most recently placed"?

[haughty flower]

It's standard targeting for the cluster grenade.
Beam attack is highest block.

[proven garnet]

highest block in range or on map?

[haughty flower]

Map. Shit's global.

[proven garnet]

gotcha

i assume that's why i've been hearing yu's name thrown around

[haughty flower]

Yu's name is thrown around simply to cut the amount of lanes you need to handle in VEC-12 from 3 to 2.

[glass monolith]

Beam on revives - highest block count (ranged ops are 1 block). Phase 2 - Whoever blocks his fucking dog
3x3 cluster - last deployed in his range (Just assume chapter 10 cannon range without shiftblocking)

[proven garnet]

can it cut -8 from 2 to 1?

[proven garnet]

unlike the artillery i cannot feed them all to summon!mon3tr

[glass monolith]

Nah thanks, my Kroos alter failed to kill TWO ON EX-5 WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS HEALING

[proven garnet]

wait until you try the challenge mode

[haughty flower]

Not really since normally you end up doing a 3-lane setup so it's also 3 to 2, but theoretically yes.

[glass monolith]

S stages and EX-8 tomorrow

[pearl breach]

In theory, you can. Just pull the doggo again after you pull the mechanist onto the midlane.
The problem is, hows yu gonna survive that

[haughty flower]

5 stars MT-S-3 is going to be an extremely fun game called

"Bait every single enemy on the map with your best defense op and pray."

[proven garnet]

and pray
it is laterano tbf

[glass monolith]

Thankfully i don't hardcore 5* only or something, just not finding it fun rarity abusing when it is overkill

[glass monolith]

PRAY TO MY AMBRIEL S2... What the fuck are you targeting woman

[haughty flower]

You have a single saving grace-silence.

[proven garnet]

grace
it is laterano tbf

is this gonna go well or nah

[worn root]

the question is, does gladiia survive

[full stream]

Document a fraud

[glass monolith]

I dont recall him doing any damage, just annoying sponge which got Lemuen S2ed for me

[proven garnet]

i think the question actually is is my ulpanius built enough which i dont think he is

i assume the modules and masteries for him are quite good

[astral cosmos]

I'll let u

[full stream]

I just ray one cycle him

[astral cosmos]

will have to remove after but take ur time

[worn root]

I sent it not long ago

[proven garnet]

s2 for this right?

i backed out of the run

[astral cosmos]

added

[worn root]

siick

I saw that kal is m9

why do I think your medicknights 😭

[full terrace]

If you use Wis btw, she makes short work of Mechanist. Her auto attacks break his shield rather fast, and when the shield is down, activate her skill and shoot Mechanist

[fallen terrace]

Are these good enoughto do the challenge MT-S-5?

[full terrace]

Better yet if you kill her doggo

Mechanist stays shieldless longer

[fallen terrace]

Or should i go arts all out?

[worn root]

both typhon and lemuen is good vs boss

although typhon is much harder to use

[fallen terrace]

I got nuked by the last phase

Can Nighty protect me from those?

[haughty flower]

Exu alter and Lemuen alone can 2op the boss, should you know how to do things.

No, assuming you mean the god ray aoe attack that's true damage.

[fallen terrace]

Honestly, The thing is i dont know what im doing

[haughty flower]

You need to outheal it if you plan to facetank that.

[worn root]

just use lemuen s3 to nuke the boss

[haughty flower]

The simple goal is to prime lemuen s2 or s3 on the boss and just keep it on the boss for the entirety of the stage.

Everyone else is just for trash clear or protecting the lemon/keeping her from marking anyone else.

Then for the final revive assuming it's CM, you want a way to outheal a single God Ray or bait it away from Lemon.

[worn root]

I need a second abjurer for bottom, idk if I should take silence alt or xingzhu

[haughty flower]

Silence would be problematic if you plan to use the immortality gimmick due to the length of the stage, I'd think.

[fallen terrace]

Whos Healing Would work best Ptolopsis or Night?

[worn root]

that's a bit much

only using her s2

[fallen terrace]

I have these meds

[lime lantern]

help

[astral cosmos]

nop im badknights/forgottenknights/4* and 5* in general, have a lot of those built
i have 103 built 5* and about 50 built 6*

reason behind max kal and mon3ter is simping (wife)

[worn root]

fair enough

[glass monolith]

God quit chat when Damatzi and Chapter 12 gimmicks were designed

[haughty flower]

I'd assume silence would be better then, sheerly off of skill cycle.

[lime lantern]

this has been the least fun ive had playing arknights so far

[glass monolith]

Thats' why i just AH squaded him and moved on

[haughty flower]

The sanctuary average is similar enough given your ops will consistently be losing lots of hp, so better cycle, and stat bonus should be enough to tip the scales.

[lime lantern]

where ah squad

[fallen terrace]

Imma it again so Keep Lemon alive got it

[astral cosmos]

too bad i'd lend you my xingzhu as well

[haughty flower]

The 63/64 revive is hands down the biggest bit of difficulty once you figure out how to cycle lemuen's skill to go off every time the boss shows up on the map.
You need a good pure burst healer, maybe 2, or you need to understand how the god ray works.

[lime lantern]

S3 goes up pretty much perfectly with the boss phases

[fallen terrace]

Can ray Do the boss too?

[proven garnet]

can someone explain to me what i need to do mechanically for mechanist
yes i understand his targeting priorities and yes i understand the fact that's he's a godforsaken gank boss and i need to take him and his little dog too, but like how do i get to that? i understand arts stuff isnt really in play here?

[haughty flower]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Tc5SKi08Dk

Here, just watch this and it should be few enough ops that you understand what each is doing.

[proven garnet]

i mean vec-8 sorry

but ill look anyway

[haughty flower]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wePgOtA-S30

It's technically "easy".

[lime lantern]

anyway any help on 12-20

[glass monolith]

Phase 1 - Need to kill Dog and him at same time to advance or they revive.
Phase 2 - KILL MECHANIST and then beat up dog (dog still revives while he is alive). Phase 2 mechanist no longer does 3x3 move

[worn root]

survive

[full terrace]

#strategy message

[glass monolith]

Objective failed

[proven garnet]

if i kill mechanist in phase 2 is he gone for good or is it still gank boss mechanics

[lime lantern]

my lack of good defenders/guards is really showing the spies 1v1 all my melee units

[glass monolith]

Phase 2 dies for good

[proven garnet]

ok

[worn root]

[glass monolith]

But dog don't unitl you kill mechanist

[proven garnet]

what do with dog

just block?

[haughty flower]

The absolute easiest way for VEC-8 is to put a good defender on mechanist, then have the Ulpi-Saria setup topside that you see if you check the video I sent. This stalls the dog for a while and lets you chunk away at it with ulpi s2.
ie, I did Eyjalt and Warf on Cuora for the bottom and even that was enough to tank mechanist.

[glass monolith]

Phase 2 dog on block causes lazer spam of -1 block debuff until it can move

[noble pewter]

The defender tanking doggo got hit by doggo block reduced is false

It is p2 mechanist engineering meteor shower atk which focuses whoever blocking the doggo to get hit by cross shape nuke n reduces block by 1 for 8 sec, n also roots him in place as he channels it

Thus for p2, is it possible to just focus blocking doggo, abusing shield mechanic to tank nuke n rotate fast redeploy to perma stall both enemy

[haughty flower]

You can let the dog run around a bit, it goes in a loop for a good while.

Just make sure to actually be putting ops that can damage it down or you're going to be on that stage for a while. Hence ulpi s2.

[glass monolith]

Btw if i use defender with 4 block (module) will it be enough to not go 0 block or -block stack refresh all durations?

[proven garnet]

in this case shu i assume?

[haughty flower]

Yeah, hoshi bottom, Shu top behind ulpi s2 or in your case yu s2 ig.

[glass monolith]

Good while is relative. Long live Mostima S3 / Clownslayer S3 (perfectly with permastun module)

[proven garnet]

i have some mats on hand if i need to spot someone some stuff but probably not more than one 6* e1->e2

[haughty flower]

I had ulpi and nearl and they demolished the dog.

Not sure why you plebians were struggling

[proven garnet]

?

[proven garnet]

well you see i am not very good at the game

[haughty flower]

Hm. That might not be enough healing.

Wait no you have shu.

Ok it's fine, just your dps is going to be a lot worse because low levels, masteries and modless.

[proven garnet]

i think i can bang out at least 1 level of the module this second but that would kind of sap my float which i wanna sit on for mechanist 3 nonsense

[merry current]

boss phase 2 really annoying

[haughty flower]

For mechanist vec-12 you need
Reedic, who can be replaced depending on roster
Yu, essential
Exu alt, essential
Shu, useful but also replaceable.

[proven garnet]

i'm somewhat more on the ball here thankfully

[haughty flower]

I see you have 2/4 already.

[haughty flower]

Congrats, every single guard you levelled besides ulpi is NOT tanking the giraffe due to corrosion.

[merry current]

idk how to defeat the phase 2

[proven garnet]

reed alt is in exact same state as ulpanius

[proven garnet]

[haughty flower]

Zuo actually would've been barely able to stunlock and then tank for a while I think but he's missing mod, levels and I bet masteries.

Also holy button clicker hell.

[proven garnet]

but he's missing mod, levels and I bet masteries
you catch on quick huh

actually you mind if i just dump my krooster in a thread because this discussion intrigues me

[full terrace]

I'm currently questioning your reading comprehension over here. I never said anything about "doggo doing block reduction". It's obvious Mechanist is the one doing that, read again before you start typing this kind of nonsense. I understand you feel the need to stroke your ego but not like this.

[glass monolith]

I assume he nitpicked "Defender tanking the doggo got hit several times by the doggo" part (I guess "hit several times by the lazer"?)

[full terrace]

Lasers yes, sorry typo

I mean everyone knows that from the context anyway, doggo does nothing of such

[haughty flower]

I think they're talking about a method of basically stalling out the dog by locking mechanist into a laser firing loop, through cycling frd instead of defenders. They just didn't realize you didn't specifically recommend using defenders on the dog.

[worn root]

quercus can survive the 1st blast from the nuke with catherine device and silence alt drone

but not the 2nd

alr, time to grab scene

[haughty flower]

Thinking about it would Magallan be able to pull some of her CC bullshit here.

[worn root]

VEC 12?

[queen axle]

[haughty flower]

Yeah. I don't see bind resistance on mech from a quick glance at the wiki.

[worn root]

I have suzu and virt at bottom with stainless as the blocker, I should be fine

my last words

[proven garnet]

oh i cant make a thread lmao

[haughty flower]

Suzu doesn't sound like enough healing assuming you're relying on s3.

[queen axle]

do they know

[haughty flower]

Just drop your krooster as a link then refresh us on what stage you want to clear again.

[worn root]

no I do not

I'm scared

[queen axle]

:cluefull:

[haughty flower]

Here's the simple problem with everything we're currently calculating. The giraffe applies corrosion.

This will permanently reduce op def.

[proven garnet]

vec-8 https://www.krooster.com/u/thundersnow
(content warning: acres and acres of e1s7s)

[haughty flower]

For supporter only this is a nightmare, since you don't have a huge amount of dps to start and corrosion puts whoever is blocking the giraffe on a strict time limit.

[proven garnet]

im not doing supporter that's the other guy

[fallen terrace]

Finished it but my lemon died. Wisadel and Mlynar cooked it.

[haughty flower]

I'm talking to the other guy rn.

[worn root]

stainless's turrets give 20% physical damage reduction

now back to suffering

[glass monolith]

Can something dumb like this work? I don't recall water timing so maybe i thinking of physically impossible deploy order

[worn root]

hm yes, quercus and virt on a ground tile

[glass monolith]

Worst case scenario... Virtuosa less kill on phase 1

[haughty flower]

That's vec-12. Those are high ground tiles.

[glass monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/829111228286763015/968816016203321364/bait.gif

[worn root]

fucking sudden realization moment

[haughty flower]

Your deployment order is physically impossible not due to water, but because of mechanist's ranged nuke.

[glass monolith]

Bait nuke, deploy shit in 30 seconds, have Roberta be target of future nukes

[haughty flower]

Any attempt to deploy virtuosa or quercus BEFORE roberta gets down is likely going to lead to a very quick retreat or restart.

[worn root]

I need to use angie to help with the bot swarm at the start, as well as extra dps cause she can't keep up on her own for long esp when they start coming in 2s

[haughty flower]

In supporter only? That's going to be a huge dp and summon sink from whoever their summoner of choice is.

[worn root]

bro... we have cheap summoners

scene is right there

9dp with 5dp summons

[haughty flower]

Yeah but it's 30 seconds worth of it.

[glass monolith]

Catherine into retreat idk what his dog plan

[haughty flower]

Mechanist also walks stupid slow and water makes it worse.

[glass monolith]

I just throw my vision on gimmick i dont do and unaware of DP constricts

I did VEC-12 vanguardless with -2 DP buff

And we get HP regen buff in like 2 days i think

[haughty flower]

The buffless lowop method doesn't need vanguards either. The stage is "simple" in that what you need to do at once isn't actually terribly costly if things go well.

The problem is our little restriction means every single other op that would be massively useful here is suddenly out of question.

And because of how much investment each lane needs, suddenly DP is a problem.

[glass monolith]

We did maths, Roberta S2 goat tanks nuke, Roberta off skill Shamare doll/Virtuosa proc + maybe device tanks nuke. Just we need to get shit into positions and see how phase 2 lazers go

[haughty flower]

How about every other lane?

[glass monolith]

[queen axle]

what stage r u guys doing

[haughty flower]

You need 2 more lane's worth of ops and putting it all down in time is problematic.

VEC-12 supporters only

[queen axle]

oh

[haughty flower]

We're cut out from Yu, Exualt, and Shu.

In short, this is a nightmare.

[queen axle]

buffless?

[glass monolith]

Week 1 buffs

[haughty flower]

They allow buffs I think but the current ones are kinda dog.

[queen axle]

if ur trying to get trim with that that's impossible

[haughty flower]

Maybe in 3 days it'll be doable but I don't think it's right now.

[queen axle]

[full terrace]

Did anyone count how many times Mechanist does the laser thingy during his phase transition and during 50% HP?

[glass monolith]

DP down and 2 shield are stacked

[haughty flower]

I can check right now.

[full terrace]

If say, he does 6 lasers

We can just bring Noir Corne and Beagle

[worn root]

if we get hp regen buffs tomorrow then ling kinda just makes this ez

[full terrace]

To tank the thing entirely

[noble pewter]

No I didn't at first 💀 I thought is how x no. hit by doggo = block reduced until I knew about the laser

Anyways now that u edit it, it is much clearer n better

No ego stroking, just want it clear

[fallen terrace]

How do I keep Lemeun alive there? She always get one punched by the boss when i deploy her there? Finished it for realz somehow.

[glass monolith]

prts says 6 total

[worn root]

never trust prts

especially after what happened

[full terrace]

Nice, I think we might be able to bait the thing entirely

[fallen terrace]

But Prts is pretty cute

[haughty flower]

He does 7 for 1st to 2nd from watching an actual video, since in practice you normally have a blocker on him.

[full terrace]

With extra Defenders

[haughty flower]

It lets him have just enough time to 1 extra right after the res.

[glass monolith]

What happened this time? I can name at least 2 cases when PRTS had info game just kinda didnt include

[worn root]

chap 15

[glass monolith]

And -20 RES on MT boss is minor offender

[queen axle]

⛏️

[haughty flower]

I recounted just to check and I confirmed practically speaking, it's most likely going to basically be 7 assuming anyone is blocking the dog during the res.
I think if no one's blocking then it's just 6.

[glass monolith]

This fucking music event boss everyone cheese with Logos S1 on rerun has "Teleport and attack everyone in range". In phase 2 he stand still and have global range. BUT HE STILL DOES ATTTACK EVERYONE IN RANGE MOVE

[haughty flower]

Because mechanist is still channeling up 1 more shot as he's exiting his revive.

[glass monolith]

Sure it is not dog gets blocked lazer?

[worn root]

ah, leafcarpet fucking things up

[full terrace]

So lets say:

• Defender 1 or Ulpi S2 tanking Mechanist (3 Blocks)
• Defender 2 tanking doggo (3 Blocks)
• Let the laser hits one Ulpi/Defender 1 once, and Defender 2 once
• Deploy Noir Corne to tank lasers twice (3 ~> 2, and since everyone is at 2 and this unit is last deployed, laser hits it again 2 ~> 1)
• Retreat Noir Corne, deploy Beagle and tank lasers twice again

Thats a total of 6

Eh.. last one just let it hit Ulpi/Defender 1 or Defender 2 again

[glass monolith]

Surely you can some up with solution

[haughty flower]

Leafcarpet is bind-frail.

And binder will screw her over and supporters should have plenty of that in supply.

[full terrace]

Tho I think Noir and Beagle need healing

Since lasers are Arts

[haughty flower]

Shields.

[full terrace]

Right

The shields buff

[proven garnet]

out of sheer morbid curiosity how does silence alter stack up in supportknights

[haughty flower]

The shileds buff

[queen axle]

shield kinda carrying here

blocking 2 instances of dmg for free

[glass monolith]

We have binds on supporters? Oh right he can Civilight S2 that shit to death probably

[haughty flower]

S2M3 I'd imagine kills

[slow ferry]

managed to clear mt-s-5 challenge mode on my own 😭

[worn root]

small problem, bots

[slow ferry]

i had to spam down ops to absorb sniper shots near the end theyre so annoying and i genuinely hope i never have to deal with something like that again in the near future

[haughty flower]

Simply trash kill better

[full terrace]

So, 2x Defender can bait lasers, and 1x FRD can bait Mechanist nuke every 30 secs (Phase 1)

And bring extra Defender to swap doggo tank because of Corrosion damage stacking up

[slow ferry]

whats with the vec stage i keep hearing ppl talk about

[full terrace]

I think that should cover everything

[glass monolith]

Vector event, we hyper cooking 12th one needed for Trim medal on week 1.

Well more tile guy does gimmick and we too invested into seeing it throught

[slow ferry]

oh

[queen axle]

vec1-11 is easy enough

[proven garnet]

iron man giraffe is here to to see exactly how much electricity the human body can withstand

[queen axle]

vec 12 is operator check

which sucks

[proven garnet]

those being?

[queen axle]

but it's not even hard

[slow ferry]

like power level or a certain kind of op

[queen axle]

u just need to have the operators

[glass monolith]

Entire game is operator and strategy check

[worn root]

a nicheknights nightmare

[queen axle]

[proven garnet]

names, i need names [fumbles for paper]

[glass monolith]

MVP Roberta Shamare

[slow ferry]

oh really high upfront damage?

[pearl breach]

So if the roberta can survive mechanist. How you planned to kill him? Virtuosa?

[slow ferry]

no ground ops?

[worn root]

pretty much

[queen axle]

the important ones are shu, yu if ur doing the strat without shu and yu then ulpianus with glad + spalt and a staller for giraffe like hoederer

[worn root]

I can't have anyone else near that mf

[queen axle]

[glass monolith]

Boss does 960 casuall 24 TIMES IN 3x3 AOE, go figure

[slow ferry]

and you have to tank with ranged ops?

or does that only target high ground

[worn root]

you'll worry when you get there

[queen axle]

he oneshots ulpianus without glad at full health

which is funny to see

[glass monolith]

Bro fall off can't even tank 23k damage nuke

[queen axle]

can't even tank a bear even

worst crusher

[worn root]

rip bozo

[glass monolith]

IT IS FUCKING TWO TIMES OF CLIFF NUKE IN JESS ALT EVENT

[queen axle]

[haughty flower]

Yu also gets onetapped offskill.

[glass monolith]

Actually #cn-lounge message

[haughty flower]

The whole reason why Exualt is necessary for VEC-12 lowop is most ops have bad def and that includes Yu.

[queen axle]

just time ur off skill better

[haughty flower]

Even after that his regular ranged attacks actually have higher DpH and wreck Yu.

[queen axle]

my yu actually survives till the nirvana phase of phase 2

[full terrace]

Hmm I might be able to make a Low-End depending on the buffs we are getting

[queen axle]

and that's without shu

so

idk

i mean last week buffs any op composition should be able to clear it

[glass monolith]

Well you might but... You can friend support for VEC stage. You can't friend support buff stage

[full terrace]

Mechanist has how much HP again? 80k?

[glass monolith]

why i even closing PRTS page

[full terrace]

I can make Low-End for garrison ones no problem, those are easy

[haughty flower]

To boot up ZOOT

[glass monolith]

60/70/80k (4/8/12)

[full terrace]

Castermiya S3M3 how much total damage?

[haughty flower]

60k I believe

Not enough.

[full terrace]

So 2 cycles

So bring 70 Defenders and 60 Medics to stall and wait for Amiya cooldown

While using Gravel and 2x Defender trick to bait everything

That will do, Low-End it is

[haughty flower]

Wait fuck it's actually 49k I think.

But still, 2 cycle.

[full terrace]

The problem is Leafcarpet and the others

[haughty flower]

Leafcarpet basically fucks over your entire 3* options and only a few 4* ops are viable for her.

[glass monolith]

Leafcrap being stun immune is biggest fuck me in a while

[haughty flower]

She also shows up relatively early.

[full terrace]

I wonder

If Krooster stuns enough

[haughty flower]

Stun immune

Stoopid

[full terrace]

Oh man

[worn root]

agghhh, this fucking high tide

[haughty flower]

Did you get the equipment buff?

[glass monolith]

EMOTIONAL DAMAGE (Drops Crownslayer S3)

[worn root]

yeh

but I only get 1

[glass monolith]

He can't ranged tile deploy

[full terrace]

Do I cope Ethan and Indigo bind

[glass monolith]

i think or what was buff

[full terrace]

Man thats crazy 😂

[haughty flower]

I was wondering why Wis s3 didn't work.

[haughty flower]

Silvergun ahh strat

[full terrace]

Silvergun has them E2 he has it easier

[glass monolith]

Ethan gets stunned when she touch him and shit moves miles

[full terrace]

Low-Ends are E1 Lv60 only

[haughty flower]

Wait if it's E1 you're fried

Unless somehow someone has a like Ling clear or smth this sounds cooked.

[foggy grove]

there is 3* clear just need the buffs

[full terrace]

Its doable final week

Yeh

Need the buffs bro

So no Low-End for Trimmed Medal

[glass monolith]

You thinking like week 2 ling almost solos because buffs are that broken

[haughty flower]

Wow, what buffs do we get.

[glass monolith]

100 ATK 100 attack speed 0 block

[full terrace]

There is a Ling + Ethan 2 ops clear in arkrec if we include all buffs

Plenty of 2 ops

But no buffs is 4 ops

[glass monolith]

Also there is buff for extra HP seal meaning you can just ignore Leafcrap leaking

[haughty flower]

No buff 4op is still the coolest one imo.

[full terrace]

Iirc there is this "recover 2% HP every sec"

Ling dragons eating well with that

[haughty flower]

Ling dragons feasting wtf

[vocal leaf]

im trying thornsalt and he makes everything much easier, i dont need hung, mik can tank mechanist very easily without healing

[haughty flower]

That doesn't sound right given there is a 30 second downtime and a 15 second ramp up to the debuff max.

Unless that's just mik being a stone wall naturally.

Also it's, uh, atk -30% max. Starting from atk -15%.

That's actually hilariously pathetic wtf thorns.

[vocal leaf]

no, i mean i only need to stall for few seconds and he can tank that time

[noble pewter]

What's a mik

[worn root]

sankta mikasparato

[haughty flower]

Wait, so you don't have shamare and you got and raised thornsalt?

[full terrace]

Shamare is a girl

He playing gayknight

[haughty flower]

Oh is he m*le only

[worn root]

Vasallo is a maleknights player

[noble pewter]

It is possible to day 1 buff without shu yu ulpi wis logos as well

[worn root]

I'm the one using shamare here

[haughty flower]

Well that's a given due to the nature of your challenge conditionals.

Every bit of atk and dr counts in your case.

[haughty flower]

Wtf is thorns doing here even. Mechanist shield takedown?

[noble pewter]

Yes, he is the dps

[worn root]

Mechanist: launches nuke
Mik: "Tis' but a scratch"

[full terrace]

Your roster is awfully similar to Shileds' povertyknight

Miksa, Lumen, Harold

[worn root]

no but srsly, that fucking bounced off of him we sure he's a welfare?

[foggy grove]

well #strategy message

[haughty flower]

Full 6* is fine. Shu simply makes bottom side easier, Yu makes mechanist easier.

[vocal leaf]

anni welfares are good, niche but good, only half anni ones are a joke

[worn root]

and I get the joke

[foggy grove]

someone do mine
i'm slacking off

[deft totem]

any advice for clearing vec-12 with this squad? my top lane falls apart during p2, hoshi+exu2 revives+ulpi doesn't seem to be enough. I'm guessing my dps is too low on top side?

[glass monolith]

I started EX stages today, tell me about slacking

[worn root]

also, why not have mik face away from mechanist so he can refresh his shield after the nuke?

[full terrace]

Wisadel on Exu position, and deploy her before Hoshi

And remember to

Retreat her

Rev Shadows

Her auto attacks have high hit count

She breaks his shield like nothing

[vocal leaf]

it doesn’t matter and will retreat him after that

[full terrace]

When shield is down just activate her skill and blast him

[deft totem]

ok i'll try that, i swapped her out of that spot because i thought it was bad to keep her on like 1 shadow perma.

[full terrace]

Ulpi can be down there bullying the doggo

But he needs a Medic babysitter

Or

Shu tank and a dps babysitter

[queen axle]

just have shu hold the giraffe

[vocal leaf]

and he gets extra def when attacking, so it’s ok attack in this case

[worn root]

ah fair enough

so that's what +150 def

[full terrace]

Actually Ulpi better for mid lane

[glass monolith]

This "Let me kill boss in 30 seconds" give me uncanny flashbacks of Damatzi 8 second nukes strats

[worn root]

ontop of how much he gets alr from skill

[full terrace]

Shu the doggo

[deft totem]

i put shu mid to give hoshi the shu tile

[full terrace]

True but there is a lot of pressure on mid

I mean if you find that easier that also works

But eh

[last arrow]

how hard is mt-s-4 & 5 compare to 3

[queen axle]

put ulpi at the middle, hoshi at top but hoshi has to be 1 tile behind ulpi from the top in the middle tile

[glass monolith]

He is already 1600 DEF against 960 damage, he gets damaged because chip damage 24 times is fucking lot (1152 guaranteed damage pre-DR if any)

[worn root]

4 is fine if you have fia + lemu, 5 is fucking hell

[full terrace]

3 is burst check 4 is aerial dps check 5 is technique check

[queen axle]

hoshi is quite good at tanking mechanist cause her s2 shreds his shield

[last arrow]

wdym technique check

[queen axle]

[queen axle]

mt 4-5 is the easiest ones

well assuming u have lemuen

if not just borrow her

[last arrow]

yeah same thing

[queen axle]

2-3 can be quite cancer for some ppl

[last arrow]

i genuinely don't think my account can clear 3 cm

[queen axle]

whats ur squad looking

[last arrow]

this is the squad i use to clear s-3 normal

[queen axle]

[full terrace]

Ah you'll be fine

Go watch that video

[noble pewter]

Do u actually mean s2 or sth more like mechanist high hit count thus taking reflected hits back a lot

[elder flume]

thinking of running Lapp2 S1 to cancel MT S 3 healers but guess i have to get there to see if its viable hm

[full terrace]

Probably not rain

They heal a lot

[queen axle]

s1 is the reflect

[full terrace]

Like a lot

[queen axle]

or am i schizo

s2 is the throw shield one

[full terrace]

They even outheal Wisadel's shots bro

Unless your Lappcaster can somehow outdps Wis S3

[lime lantern]

they heal to full every so few seconds

[queen axle]

oh wait

[elder flume]

yeah if the dogs target closest and most secluded healers first

[last arrow]

s3 is def up alpha

[queen axle]

nvm im actually shizo

[lime lantern]

why not logos s3

[queen axle]

yeah its s2

thorns skill

[elder flume]

im just gona try racking my brain for S stages today

[full terrace]

Ah you'll breeze through them

I'm more amazed if you get stuck if anything

[queen axle]

lemuen borrow can kill 4 at once on the right spot

[elder flume]

i spent most of my idle time projecting where n when to shift for S 2

[last arrow]

btw quick question, how hard is this event compare to upcoming event & rerun

[full terrace]

Sounds like you alright

[glass monolith]

I will not breeze them tomorrow, ok i oversitted in this chat, im gonig to

[full terrace]

Sakiko event is HELL

Watch out for that one

The others I havent heard anything crazy

...yet

[last arrow]

oh is that the one with the light mechanic (i have no idea how it work)

[elder flume]

Ato seems easy from what ive seen

[queen axle]

sakiko is worth it

i pray

[full terrace]

Sakiko's EX-8 is on the same level as OR-S-3 and BB-S-4 from what I heard

Actually OR-S-3 is not as bad as BB-S-4

But anyways

Yo rain @elder flume

You think it's possible to put all the priests into the top right hole

:joyplush:

[elder flume]

i was thinking that ye

in theory possible but the top spawn enemies are annoying

i can funnel every priest to top after i deal with everything

[full terrace]

Yeah those need laneholder still

Very annoying

Snipers especially

[elder flume]

im only missing Phantom

CS does too much damage and only hits 6 ish

ok yea i should be able to

just needs Sora

[unkempt lintel]

this one still follow the usual last deployed rule yeh?

[worn root]

yeh

[full terrace]

Yes and, it prioritizes last deployed over block too

[unkempt lintel]

oh

[full terrace]

Usually enemy targetting switches to the one blocking it

But this skill is not

It will still hit last deployed even when blocked

So its better

Because you can just bait it

[unkempt lintel]

that would make sense why my dps and suports got showered

[full terrace]

Far far away

Because you didnt bait so yea

[unkempt lintel]

yeh would see ig a pattern or gesture when he would do it

tnx tnx

[full terrace]

Mechanist does it in Phase 1 only

Cooldown is 30 secs

So yeah

You are welcome

[unkempt lintel]

btw the skill overrided priority with taunt

so would be taunt>last deployed

[full terrace]

I think Taunt might have priority, I remember him not targetting Asca

Despite me deploying Asca last

Well Asca -1

I could remember it wrong but

I'm confident I deployed Asca last that time

[unkempt lintel]

i see i would mind taunt prio as usual

[glass monolith]

Pretty sure just default targeting which ignores being blocked, we don't really have enemies hardcoded to attack last deployed bypassing taunts?

[full terrace]

Ye

Taunt counts prob, how many enemies that ignore Taunt we have so far anyway?

Too few to matters

[glass monolith]

Well technically any specialized targeting but it is rare among enemies

[worn root]

right, how tf am I suppose to open this stage and set up my mechanist stall

[glass monolith]

You ask it only NOW?

[queen axle]

[worn root]

my opening worked but leading to the set up mechanist fucks it up

[glass monolith]

I hope you will figure, unless you plan to Roberta DPS only phase 1

[unkempt lintel]

it does prioritize taunt

as usual

[queen axle]

this is sisyphus btw

[vocal leaf]

thornsalt healing is so good, no one dying is insane

[worn root]

ok, angie + virt can duo the opening

[deft totem]

swapped positions around and damage is definitely better top side, but my hoshi is still getting destroyed in p2. she's coming out of intermission full health and dies like 10s afterwards.

[full terrace]

You finally caved in huh

Shu bottom Ulpi mid

[deft totem]

yea, jsut trying different things to see what works lol

[elder flume]

this is looking kina scuffed
Gladiia Gravel is only there for rpg wave
Ines S3 only for slow
Ange S3 wont be able to kill healer in time so its fine
bottom is too stacked and Swire can kill if ammo release

[full terrace]

Is borrowing a Necrass and kill 80% of the etc stuff an option?

Swordies, the bazooka mainly

[queen axle]

wait is this all supporters

i see ines and gravel

[elder flume]

Weedy Enforcer takes care of all swords

if they can get online fast

if not Swire

[full terrace]

Snipers is kinda uh..

I was thinking of something like

[worn root]

there is 1 supporter

[full terrace]

Having Necrass handle the laneholding and focus shifters entirely on priests

And snipers assassinate them

The top-left most priest should be priority

Snipers walk to the left

And down

Then right and into your blue box

[elder flume]

priests come the same time as some rpg iirc

[full terrace]

If you have Necrass lanehold blue box and Wis for example top left sniper assassination duty

Then its rain game entirely

[elder flume]

top should be fine no

just have Gravel bait a sniper shot

[full terrace]

Oh you plan to do it like that

Yeah that looks good but I mean

[elder flume]

since the spawn timings are enough for Weedy to get S3 for every wave

[full terrace]

Are the shifting enough for the priests

[elder flume]

yes

[full terrace]

During final wave

Oh cool

[elder flume]

because i have a spare Kafka and Sora as my last 2 ops

[full terrace]

Nice

[elder flume]

and Gladiia redeploy from top face bottom to bring every priest up to Weedy range

[full terrace]

I would still suggest Necrass tho

[unkempt lintel]

just a hypothetical question

does mechanist skill also prio objects that are last deployed?

[full terrace]

Summon is 1200 def bro

[dusty cedar]

Sincerest apologies but what map is that

[full terrace]

And each hit on S3 is 800% damage scale

Arts Damage

[full stream]

mt-s-3

[dusty cedar]

Oh fck that stage

The bazooka ones?

[full stream]

very schizo strat but id like it

[full terrace]

Necrass can kill swordies and the others under heal

[elder flume]

borrowing prohibits my autodeploy and will turn the recording into 14 mins

[queen axle]

sniper and bazooka stage with healers yes

[full terrace]

Oh yeah you wanna auto lol

[dusty cedar]

Yuh I just Hoshi tanked plus aoe dpsed it

Auto is doable but uh

That's like three to four fucking medics u need lmao

In my experience

[full terrace]

Yes

So if you summon Wisadel Rev Shadows

He hits them

Boom Wis dead

[unkempt lintel]

deym.... im worried about mosnter summon thingy

[dusty cedar]

Oh Wis doesn't counter bazooka aoe

Welp

[full terrace]

Same thing

[unkempt lintel]

ig i just good i dont play around monster at the stage

[full terrace]

Oh wait

Mon3tr's thingy is -1 Taunt no?

Then it wont get targetted

Asca also -1 she didnt get targetted

[unkempt lintel]

oh that neat... i dont recall it have lower taunt

[full terrace]

Yeah I just remembered this

I rarely use Mon3tr

Eyja has higher position in my heart

[unkempt lintel]

i think ill suck when i use wisadel

even with geexu i somehow time her skill the moment mechanist shield was up

[full terrace]

Wis actually works wonder, I tried that on my alt

Exu auto attacks are slow

She is not good for breaking shields

And if you use her skill to break shields

Her skill will not be up when the shield is broken

...unless you break shields using other unit

And she burst

I really like Wis's auto attacks having high hit count there

[unkempt lintel]

i have hoshi and bunch of frd to break shiel

[full terrace]

Then Exu works sure

[unkempt lintel]

i just somehow time it perfectly to have exu cast skill when he about to shield himself

so that take some more of my time

[full terrace]

Phase 2 he regains his shield faster ye

Faster cooldown

And beating up the doggo will not remove his shield anymore

So its entirely manual shield breaking

[dusty cedar]

Vec boss?

I just let him hit himself hehe

[lime lantern]

what borrow should i bring vs damazti complex

[full stream]

Ulpianus

[last arrow]

is there a guide for s3 cm without 2 6*? that's the only stage i have left

[deft totem]

does mechanist do more damage in p2 (besides the beams)? i don't see anywhere in his description that mentions it, but his regular attacks seem a lot stronger for some reason?

[dusty sphinx]

Is vec 12 impossible

[full terrace]

Ptilopsis is just there to cycle with Susurro

For Tequila to bait the Sniper shots

Need that constant burst heal

Tequila with Necrass I mean*

The burst check is crazy in this stage

You need units with very very high dph

[last arrow]

hmmmm

time to see if i can raise windscoot in 2 days

[haughty flower]

You also need a way to handle snipers, then either bait or tank the artillery fuckers.

Windscoot has like half Tequila's DpH.

[full terrace]

Yeah prob not Windscoot

If you have someone like Mlynar

He'd work

Lemuen S3 also works

She is even better

[last arrow]

of course this is the lemuen shill stage, how did i not notice 😭

[haughty flower]

Who do you even have for DPS

[full terrace]

I mean her S2 also works but like

Who even use her S2 anyway

[last arrow]

uhhhhh

[full terrace]

Oh man

Oh wait

You can maybe try Pinecone idk

😂

Wait for her to store 2~3 charges

Then bam bam bam

Thats a burst

[last arrow]

pinecone s1m3 come in clutch???

[noble pewter]

With late game buff, no diff
With week 1 buff, low diff
With day 1 buff, mid diff
With no buff, high diff

[full terrace]

Yeah that might be enough burst

[last arrow]

ok i can see windscoot + pinecone angle, my windscoot is e150 already so i can raise him tomorrow

[haughty flower]

Throw in Contrail s2 with the pinecone s1, close to where Teq is and pair w/ Necrass s3.

[full terrace]

Ah idk about Windscoot bro but you can try

I'd really suggest you raise Tequila instead

Your Trading Post in shambles bro

[last arrow]

oh the thing is this event is ending in 2 days and i fear i can't raise him in time

[full terrace]

Procrastination 😏

[dusty sphinx]

Im trying to clear who shoulf I add

[pearl breach]

A 3 blockers

[haughty flower]

Doesn't show roster
Who should I add

Cinema

[pearl breach]

More of them

[narrow patrol]

Sooo… any ideas on this stage. Those fucking archers screw me over very badly with the bullshit stun

[noble pewter]

What if don't block top in p2 n just focus block bot to root top in spot

[noble pewter]

Yes he gain all base stat incr, atk is +200% def +80% res +

his meteor is only 40% atk, so can abuse it to block bot n force him keep using that atk n he won't move top

[full terrace]

You have Exu and Wisadel

[plucky grove]

lemon also nukes archers pretty well

[acoustic slate]

What’s the training mission that teaches deployment order again?

[narrow patrol]

Again they get screwed because of those gay archers with the long stuns

[plucky grove]

you need to deploy someone else to bait lol

[full terrace]

Wis has her Rev Shadows bait for her

Exu just deploy an FRD temporarily

She steals aspd and FRD tank the stun shot for her

[haughty flower]

Wis on VEC-12 is kinda zzz for no/current buff imo.
She's fine but the stars of the show are definitely Exualt and Yu imo.

[dusty sphinx]

https://www.krooster.com/u/trikingtri this my roster

[full terrace]

FRD has HP shield from Exu

[acoustic slate]

“Gay archers”

[full terrace]

Or do Lemuen like that person said

[deft totem]

so if i block bot, then mechanist will be stuck in animation for beams on bottom blocker?

[scarlet fulcrum]

Thats stormeye drinking buddy, which is girl

[haughty flower]

Ig ie this is my casual setup for when I got lazy of trying to low op and wanted to clear so I could study.

[dusty sphinx]

How do you kill mrchanist

[haughty flower]

Critical ops are Exualt s3, Yu s2.

[dusty sphinx]

[noble pewter]

Yes, only in p2

[haughty flower]

Your goal is simple. Let Yu die once to the frag grenade. Redeploy Yu with Exualt s3. Tp mechanist onto Yu.

Boom, you now only have 2 lanes to manage, burst heal and DPS on and they're right next to each other.

[dusty sphinx]

Is yu needed ?

[dusty cedar]

Depends

[haughty flower]

He's not strictly necessary but he turns this map from 3 lanes to 2.

[dusty cedar]

Sry ignore me I'm being foolish

[noble pewter]

https://youtu.be/SuZKkp3mfko?si=1JkOP-8a4lElnGh- I wrote some notes here n this was how I did it, I did not record sound nor opening though

[haughty flower]

You think over it a little and tell me if that's good enough or not.

[dusty sphinx]

Mechanist the only real threat tho

[noble pewter]

When week 1 buff come with 2% hp regen, this type of setup with a strong blocker top n bot will be more stable n allow more mistakes to be made

[dusty sphinx]

Everything else kinda punching bag?

[noble pewter]

Uproar that appears at 37/40 must be taken care of to prevent him kill ur ranged tile units

[haughty flower]

Giraffe inflicts corrosion so if you're playing mindlessly, anything besides Ulpi in bot lane dies.

Rabbit can easily stun all your ground ops

[noble pewter]

Leaf root that ignore block must also be paid attention to

N red trucks coming mid near 34/40

[dusty cedar]

Which one was uproar the one that shoots arrows?

[haughty flower]

Uproar has pretty solid dph and can onetap multiple ranged ops.

Yes.

[noble pewter]

37/40 Archer like stormeye

[dusty cedar]

Hmm

Yeah she sucks

[noble pewter]

1.3 tile range, gets -80% atk when blocked

So no threat unless u let him get close n shoot ur squishies

[dusty cedar]

Oops my DPs tickled her now watch her explode my high ground

[noble pewter]

Or if u have shield remaining u can tank it n hopefully kill b4 they do more dmg

[dusty cedar]

Uproar in a nutshell

But tbf seems like she can be dealt with a solo 1v1er

[noble pewter]

As long uproar is blocked, is no threat

As no more dmg