strategy

[elder flume]

trying to get SA support to lock E1 to test

[full terrace]

VERY NICE

Thanks for the hard work

[maiden hound]

wow that looks good

[graceful bear]

Question for a friend: How do you do BB-S-4 without Ascalon or Ines? (His roster is mostly Year 1 and 2 ops) The main hurdle is that he can't kill the lancers before they kill his tanks.

[foggy grove]

neither is needed

use the chain

[pearl compass]

Horn S1 + Virtuosa.

You spawnkill those Assassins and it would be easier.

[graceful bear]

Yeah he's using his support slot for my maxed Horn and he doesn't have Virtuosa, Wis, etc. He does have Logos and Mon3tr tho

[somber falcon]

y1 and y2 ops
Horn and virt

[pearl compass]

That's pretty bad, Logos isn't consistent due to Dodges.

Then use chains, nothing remains.

[somber falcon]

The lancers' speed gets basically nullified by chains
Form one in the tile in front of your blockers to counter them

[pearl compass]

He edited it tho.

[graceful bear]

yeah I tried doing it a few times for him (I'm bad) but the issue I was actually having is that while his roster was reasonably leveled, his only leveled Vanguards were Myrtle and Siege and I can't pump enough DP out...
wait
I could've just swapped out rarity abuse for lower rarity ops

[somber falcon]

Those two should be enough

[elder flume]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1Dp5Cz4Eot/?spm_id_from=333.337.search-card.all.click

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1kX5SzcE2S/?spm_id_from=333.337.search-card.all.click

[graceful bear]

ty

[vocal leaf]

i did it with only male ops, bb s 4 had me doing funny combos like hoederer + chongyue and zuo le + bison

it should be easier now with logos, ulpi and hoederer module

[rich plover]

Yea, I'm having trouble with the right lane of the left side

[shrewd fractal]

Damn that's a lot of tries

Thx bro

[full terrace]

You mean the mid lane? The first 2 Assassins can be shot easily with Wisadel, the remaining Assassins you can cycle them with Mon3tr

[full terrace]

Which part exactly that causes you to fail

[rich plover]

Right, I should just use Wisadel

[full terrace]

Did you screenshot it

[tame rain]

For this stage only skill level 7 will pull the dudes correct?

[full terrace]

Yeah I thought you borrowed a Wisadel

[rich plover]

Nah nah, I'll just try again with support

[full terrace]

It's S stage anyway, nothing to farm

[full terrace]

Check the Weight

And check your Shift Strength

[tame rain]

Where do I see weight

[full terrace]

Open the Enemy Info tab

[tame rain]

ah

I see it

[full terrace]

Click on the enemy profile

Now check your operator's Shift Strength

Moderately is 1, Significantly is 2

Greatly is 3

[tame rain]

yeah

I need level 7 then zzz

[full terrace]

If Shift Strength - Weight = 0 or higher, you will pull it

[tame rain]

Oh wait

[full terrace]

If -1 it will move a bit, if -2 it wont move or move slightly I dont remember

[tame rain]

Ah no

I need level 7

[elder flume]

you can pull up to -2

[tame rain]

Level 4 is Moderately

[elder flume]

most pull related maps are fine with -1 to pull 1 tile to hole

[astral cosmos]

almond s1 can pull them

and she caps at moderately at s1m3

[tame rain]

I only have these dudes

[full terrace]

What is the enemy's Weight there

[tame rain]

2

[full terrace]

Moderately will work

The hole is close

[elder flume]

as loing as you put them here

[tame rain]

yeye ofc

[astral cosmos]

the key here is having enough skill cycle

[tame rain]

Lemme try

[astral cosmos]

is this pulling right in front of red box

[elder flume]

ye

[tame rain]

Strange

The video I saw

of the stage

[astral cosmos]

hmm

[elder flume]

if you pull from here you cant do -1

[astral cosmos]

in that case rope/cliffheart work
snowsant/gladiia may not work

[elder flume]

since its like 0.3 tiles

[astral cosmos]

almond not sure either

[elder flume]

pretty sure Almond just fails

[astral cosmos]

almond pulls

but

[elder flume]

Snow is slower

[astral cosmos]

if it's pulling right in front of red box
she might fail

[tame rain]

I saw them put it

[astral cosmos]

unless they are fast enough

[elder flume]

ye

[tame rain]

behind the block tile

[astral cosmos]

if the enemies here aren't fast, almond/gladiia/snowsant won't pull

[tame rain]

How does that make sense.

[astral cosmos]

because of this

[tame rain]

So it pulls one tile further than it has range?

[astral cosmos]

no no I wasn't answering your above image

[tame rain]

oh

[astral cosmos]

just the rope/snowsant concern I had

[tame rain]

Like how does this reach

[elder flume]

E1 increases range

[full terrace]

Yes, do what rain told you to. I remember there is a difference in result when you pull from max distance vs not max distance

[tame rain]

I see

Ill try.

[astral cosmos]

can someone try snowsant im curious

[tame rain]

Where am I putting them?

On top of the thing or

[elder flume]

same height from Rope is fine

you can choose between 1 or 3

2 where Gavial is is bad

[tame rain]

Yeah

But I need E1 to place it at 3 ye?

[elder flume]

ye

[rich plover]

I dunno where to place Mon3tr and her Reconstruction without screwing up the chains

@full terrace

[full terrace]

That tile errr

Lemme login hold on

[tame rain]

Rope does pull it seems yeah

at Level 4

[full terrace]

There @rich plover

First you deploy an operator on yellow tile

Then blue, it will create a chain to the one in yellow tile

Then Mon3tr on green

She will create a chain to the operator in the blue tile

The deploy order is important here

When Mon3tr uses her S3, she "redeploys" herself

So the chain will be like this:

[full terrace]

And when the skill is over, she "redeploys" herself again, back to this position

[rich plover]

Ok, put her reconstruction on the right

[full terrace]

Yah she has the same redeploy mechanic like Ulpianus

And I tested Ulpianus before

This should work

[tame rain]

Man Im looking forward to the upcoming banner to pull some strong units

[rich plover]

Done, thanks for the tips @full terrace

[full terrace]

Congrats there

And you are welcome

[tame rain]

Is this stage also just

Wisadel?

[full terrace]

What does the map look like

I'm not ingame rite now

[tame rain]

This map

[full terrace]

Oh that

This one is annoying

There are a lot of frozen spideys

But yes you can Wisadel them

[tame rain]

Are there better options?

[full terrace]

The left side you want someone to push them into the hole

I'd say Wisadel is best over there just because

Her normal attacks are powerful, that alone can take care of the most exploding spideys

[tame rain]

My Shaw is ready

to push into holes

[full terrace]

Oh also you want some baits

For the drones

The frozen drones

Bring Gravel there

[tame rain]

Something like this with Wis support

Can also change Tequila to something else

[full terrace]

That will work

Just make sure your Defenders block properly near your blue boxes

For Wisadel to kill

[tame rain]

Where do I place wis

[teal moon]

@shadow wren is it bb-s-4 in challenge mode?

and for first thing, why are you borrowing Thorns? He's kinda mid

[tame rain]

Right thanks

[shadow wren]

i stuck with what i know atm

im a returning doctor, just a few weeks ago, my last event was near light lol

[teal moon]

I know it can seems pretty lazy but you can borrow Wisadel

[shadow wren]

this is my placement

i had a thought of moving the right lane further up

[teal moon]

so it's challenge mod

[shadow wren]

yes

the problem is really just the right lane cant hold up well

[next wigeon]

Make use of the Chains

[shadow wren]

yeah theres not enough room for kaltsit to burst it down in cm

[next wigeon]

The tall bulky guys just die off eventually to the Chains

[shadow wren]

my problem are the assassin guys

[drifting crown]

yeah, it's make lot of different

[next wigeon]

Borrow Horn

[shadow wren]

i have horn

[next wigeon]

You can murder the assassins now

[shadow wren]

this can help you see my options
https://krooster.com/u/catz_uu

[shadow wren]

let me try replacing silverash with horn and ill update you guys on it

kek

[next wigeon]

You should E2 Surtr, Wis'adel, Yu, Nightingale and Texalt

[shadow wren]

i eventually will

[shrewd fractal]

surprisingly the kroos strat actually worked lol except i put ptilo right after krooster instead of using both kroos

thanks a bunch

[rapid cipher]

LFG

3 minutes before the server reset

oh my god

[full terrace]

Ines at Shop

[umbral mountain]

@weary jungle here

[weary jungle]

What can I replace thorns with?

[full stream]

what do u have?

give the roster and squad

[weary jungle]

I'm logging in, wait me a moment

[full stream]

ill get back at u in a bit

[weary jungle]

Alright, I'm gonna go shower then

[next wigeon]

Use Silence btw

E1 her

[weary jungle]

Yeahhh I'm lacking though, I kinda forgot about her and used on others-

[full stream]

this is way too underleveled u need to e1 cuora and spot try to use fang here youll need her to block early

main problem i am seeing is who gonna deal with botside crushers

timing lappland s2 seems omega cope

[next wigeon]

Sun being a guiding Light towards the newbies

[full stream]

we are borrowing wis for top side so its solved insta

krooster is botside since she is gonna solo the drones

[elder flume]

Teq bottom crussher then

or let crusher walk past

[next wigeon]

Yknow what I'm gonna E1 Tequila smh

[full stream]

tequila is gonna get smack as much as i wanna glaze him he wont be enough letting the crushers go seems pluasible and kill them when they reach mid with wis

either way we need to e1 the defenders first

[next wigeon]

This would be my layout for the map using your ops ya

[full stream]

i was mostly thinking this if he can e2 their Sash

[next wigeon]

Tbh the Tequila is unnecessary and you can keep your Myrtle to produce dp

[next wigeon]

You want Krooster to kiss the Crossbow Bolt?

[full stream]

it be easier if he had a multi target healer but gummy could help the healing pressure

[full stream]

id prefer if u put sa where lappland is

to deal with the crushers

[next wigeon]

I put SA there for AA reasons ig

[full stream]

kroos and lappland top side would enough for that imo

this seems better

[next wigeon]

Its just a failsafe just in case

[full stream]

can lapp survive the camo caster wave?

sa reveals and kills them earlier reducing healing pressure

[next wigeon]

With drone usage and spot/gummy healing she might survive

[weary jungle]

E2 sash?!!?? Idk... Let me check what I need for him

[full stream]

He needs d32 steels which is ez to find in IS deep investigations

[weary jungle]

What?

[full stream]

IS=integrated strategies unlocked after 3-8

[nocturne cove]

@next wigeon @narrow pendant are we doing pulling session on 14th?

[next wigeon]

That I have no idea

[narrow pendant]

I dont know
I dont really feel like it

And even if we habe it, it most likely wont be here

[shrewd fractal]

You can craft d32 steel too

It's what i did bc aint no way i'm going that far in IS without e2 in the first place

[next wigeon]

That's gonna take a part of your liver and savings to craft tbh

[shrewd fractal]

Did i just do a stoopid then

[next wigeon]

Just borrow an E2 Wis'adel, problem solve

[nocturne cove]

wdym by wont be here

we got another servee

?

[next wigeon]

Not really but it's the most difficult way to get it compared to the others

Its the most readily available yet at the same time is pain when you run out of materials

[shrewd fractal]

Welp too late ig

[next wigeon]

CEU is shit to craft

[weary jungle]

....no I don't think I can E2 sash with my current state

[shrewd fractal]

What is ceu

[weary jungle]

I could show you what I have currently

[next wigeon]

This thing

[shrewd fractal]

Oh

[full stream]

You could,but yes it will take effort anyway current rotating map is much easier as the only thing u need is an e2 s2m3 ulpi with mod to solo dps

[narrow pendant]

Mhm

[full stream]

U could check #friend-id for it

[next wigeon]

Isn't Wis'adel a better borrow no?

[full stream]

Nah

U could sleep with ulpi

[weary jungle]

So.... I will still use your map rn and reach the highest I can

[full stream]

Wouldn't recommend prefer if u just one shot it

[next wigeon]

If you feel that you are gonna leak just close game and join again to get full refund

By close game, I mean exit the application entirely and log in again

[weary jungle]

Well, fine, I will and gonna have to grind my way to E2 sash now along with e1 silence

This is gonna be painfully long

[next wigeon]

You can take your time

No need to rush like you gonna finish the game in a week

[weary jungle]

I know, but I guess am gonna have to be off on limbus for a few months now that I've been hooked to ak

Though I would still come back to limbus before collab ends and buy gamepass for the pulls as last try to get egos

[elder flume]

You underestimate Wis and Teq too much

Wis can kill all crushers before midpoint even

[full stream]

Thank you for field testing didn't have time(I was lazy) @weary jungle

[weary jungle]

I am not be able to do that due to level lacking

[elder flume]

You need only 4 things

1. A good Wis
2. A good healer like Ansel
3. A good bodyblock like Tequila
4. 4 blockers with 2 of them is fine being E0 1 because they will be shielded by Wis Shadows (preferably 2 blocks)
5. 2 drone focus snipers

Oh theres a 5th

Owel

Its mostly using removing low hp Shadows and using Wis skill to recycle them back to full hp

Oya ig u need a bait too for bomb drones hm

Or just Wis skill to kill them

[full stream]

Wis could yeah just the aoe will just blow the whole topside of drones

[elder flume]

I cant simulate an exact leveling because my ops are alr like that

As long as SA and Mountain is using S2 they dont need healing

[next wigeon]

@mortal pier here's a clear I did on Challenge Mode

-# Ignore the Blunder and Panic near the end

[mortal pier]

Yeah after I grabbed Gravel I managed to clear it, it's fine

[next wigeon]

Nice

[mortal pier]

-# and then I saw the next stage, man what the hell is thaaaaaat

[next wigeon]

Baiting but harder

[ionic vector]

How to win h15-4 without any nuker

[pearl compass]

You don't. Get the nuker.

[ionic vector]

My mon3tr can't kill the mimic with 1 skill
Lv60

[lapis hornet]

zamn how come.body block so popular nowadays in anni3

[next wigeon]

Here's how I cleared 4-9 Challenge Mode rn

[wicked minnow]

omg roster check stage

unless you are willing to borrow, this stage a lil hard for new player

[next wigeon]

Tbh I would have used Ptilopsis instead but she's E2 for me

[smoky halo]

e1 dorothy is so goated in this stage

[charred brook]

next 15 min are gonna be longest ever 😴

[glass monolith]

#strategy message Just come prepared and 15 second boss

[charred brook]

thats pretty cool

cos i could barely even kill the normal enemies in my run

only degen with like + 3 guards + 2 vanguards buff and blacknight to stall the horde

[sinful cypress]

Sorry, noob question...

I want to add friends, but everyone id i see is 4 digid number...

Mine is 8 digit, what is wrong with me? 😅

[dapper hedge]

Just ignore the numbers

Go to the add friend page and just type their name (case sensitive)

You can even put random shit and it might show

Alternatively just go to #friend-id and start spamming add friend from ppl posting there

[plucky grove]

the 8 digit number is your uid, not the tag
the 4 digit number is the tag found at the end of your player name like ^

[vocal leaf]

what are the class ban combos in ccb4?

i was wondering if i will be able to use ling instead of nian

[glass monolith]

(Looks at Lone Trail enemies) Are you use you want to Ling traffic towers?

[vocal leaf]

aren’t they used just for shu talent? i saw chongyue too, i thought they just exist, not meant to be actually used

is nian even used for something?

[dapper hedge]

she can tank 2 hits at least

[timid cave]

I got to the chapter 6 frostnova boss finally and I been stuck on it any way to beat her cuz her black ice crystals keep beating the hell out of my operators

[pearl compass]

Kill her ASAP before she will start banning tiles.

Exusiai was used long time ago, you can use whoever.

[timid cave]

Hmmmmm I do have her

[pearl compass]

Schwarz, Pozy, Ray... EVEN WISADEL.

You can also use SilverAsh S3.

[pearl compass]

S3 required

And high investment

E2-60 at least

[timid cave]

Damn bro nvm
Also I don’t have alot of E2 characters so yeah

[pearl compass]

Use Wisadel then

If you sure your squad can hold enemies, Ray should do faster.

[timid cave]

Thank

[ebon prism]

i cant e2 my monster because her legendary resource i can only get until like

S4-10

wait

wrong channel

mbv

[full terrace]

Chapter 6 Frost Nova you need to control her tiles ban a bit

Depending on your positioning

Like for example you use Exu to shoot her

When you see FN is at like

3~4 tiles away from her

You deploy someone to block FN

And have her ban only the tiles in front of Exu, and not Exu tile itself

FN tiles ban is 3x3 in range

Here I draw it for you

[pearl compass]

Better kill her from the start.

To make her go phase 2, redeploy time should be just enough to deploy Exu one more time to finish her for good.

[full terrace]

What do you mean by legendary resource? Where are you currently in the Main Story?

[ebon prism]

4-7 or so

I need to get to

S4-10

To craft yhe resource i need

[full terrace]

Shouldnt be that difficult then, what is stopping you from doing so?

Well.. he isnt replying guess he figured it out

[next wigeon]

@hot pasture

This is how I cleared 4-4

Using the Shaw Trick

This was in Challenge Mode where enemies move faster

[full terrace]

Nope, this is how you clear 4-4 using the borrow trick 😏

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0pb5KJ9Hi0Q&list=PLdcpPSF3owK7fAnWLXXn5LkPjr2t4u7tF&index=7&t=2s&pp=gAQBiAQB0gcJCfwJAYcqIYzv

[red cosmos]

I need handheld for IS5 Amiya ending

[full terrace]

@wicked minnow @astral cosmos @south spindle any of you guys have the time for handhold?

[red cosmos]

I will be sharing screen in Rhinelabs

[south spindle]

A little busy atm 😔

[astral cosmos]

in like an hour

[full terrace]

Unfortunate

Yeah me too unfortunately

[red cosmos]

Whenever you can @ me

[full terrace]

I can in like err.. 10 hours

Better luck with ReChord

[red cosmos]

Lmao

[astral cosmos]

aight
what's the quick context? nicheknights?

[red cosmos]

Nah. normal.

[astral cosmos]

oh alr just basic stuff
what stage?

[red cosmos]

.

XD

[astral cosmos]

oh

uhhhhh

I never tried it

I can handhold literally any ending but that

[wicked minnow]

-# im on the same boat as rechord

i can handhold is6 but i still havent looked into is5 ed5 yet

[red cosmos]

I am sharing screen rn, If you guys wanna watch at least?

[wicked minnow]

sure ill come watch

[full terrace]

Amiya is not that difficult btw, you mainly just need to bring FRDs to bounce her balls

And then stall her a bit

And kill the etc enemies (saving elite ones for last)

Once etc enemies are dead, spawn the elite enemies and kill

Then finish Amiya off

If you finish Amiya off too early, she will ban all tiles on the map, and every undefeated enemy will drain your Life Points

Quilon is harder draft-wise

[wicked minnow]

ye just did an amiya run in the mean time on like d10 to get the gist of it

almost failed the damage check since i didnt set up any damage inspirers or get kaltsit/mon3tr and didnt get 500 aspd

quilon felt way more restrictive on the run

[storm ferry]

how do i beat this stage

pr-b-2

[fringe solstice]

fang first where tequila is.

you probably want aoe caster/ arts

[humble nymph]

any advice for

7-18

[elder flume]

focus dps when he stops

[humble nymph]

i don't think i have any dps that would work

[elder flume]

then borrow support

[humble nymph]

who

[elder flume]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wektv2asco

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDtqJLV4i1o

[fringe solstice]

yeah I think the strategy changes depending if you have e2 or not

[humble nymph]

i have e2

e2 sash and zuo le

[fringe solstice]

then it is easy, the boss has high def and res but low hp

[humble nymph]

weird

the enemy info chart shows his hp at a+

and res at a

[fringe solstice]

his stats are 45k hp, 2000 def and 90 res

It's low enough that a lot of operators can solo the stage

[elder flume]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1kH4y1e7T6/?spm_id_from=333.337.search-card.all.click

Zuo ver

can just add more ops to lessen Zuo burden

[humble nymph]

that's low

[humble nymph]

i'll try

[narrow pendant]

Cuz its showing his base stats
But his first phase buffs those stats

[humble nymph]

wait so the second phase is stronger?

[full stream]

First phase is stronger when he has his shield up

Second phase he can easily explode and doesn't do as much damage

[humble nymph]

i see

any op can solo is a lie🥀

you need modules sob

[full stream]

[rustic spear]

I think ulpianus as an example can do 80k damage with one rotation of his s3

Better dps can do more than that

[humble nymph]

i see

i think i'm just too ass for this fight

[rustic spear]

Who is your best dps

You can debuff him or use buffers for yourself

[humble nymph]

idk which one is a dps https://krooster.com/u/kayikiru

[spring pumice]

6-11 is fucking me up. Do i need to grind or change my team up?

https://www.krooster.com/network/lookup/spark-rose-raven-2415

also heres my krooster

[fringe solstice]

I guess for a normal clear:
Use the mines, they deal true damage and increase damage dealt. The boss stops at certain spots on the map making timing the dps with mine explosion.

His second phase has a high damage spear that hits the farthest ranged op away from him. You want to bait this skill. Also his second phase gains an aura that deals true damage to surrounding operators so aoe healing is nice to have.

True damage is the best (low end used amiya caster s3) because of the high defense and res, although new operators can easily get around this like logos, ulpianus, wisadel, etc

[rustic spear]

Yeah, probably the most brainless clear I can think of with what you have is if you raise warfarin a little bit and borrow an ulpianus

[fringe solstice]

I think the most brainless is surtr probably just put her down and press skill

hmm now that I think about it wisadel is more brainless

[rustic spear]

Oh I forgot her thingies get targeted

(I was thinking about patriot second phase targeting ranged units)

Ulpi probably beats surtr just a little bit because you can put him down and face tank patriot first phase (although not fully unless you have buffers), but definitely loses to wisadel

Mlynar also a contender

[elder flume]

theres too much to name tbh

[fringe solstice]

You want someone to bait the caster attacks. I would suggest another vanguard like texas. The deployment order once you get enough dp --> Texas s2, Surfer s1, yato and spot then medic, sniper, sa etc

[spring pumice]

Cool, I'll try that

yeah, I really do need to grind my operators up a bit more, thanks for your help tho

[wary shuttle]

I think you can get away with ignoring them in the short term, there are safe spots afaik

[rustic spear]

https://www.krooster.com/u/fair-white-blitz-2504 any tips on h13-4 with these ops? The popular YouTuber guides all require things I don’t have (or suz s3m3)

[fringe solstice]

true aoe like fedex, chen alter, chongyue, etc and move the bomb. You want arts damage for shielder and torturer

[mild wind]

i forgot arts drones got high RES

i was under impression e1lvl50 logos can snipe them

-# (this is alt)

[umbral mountain]

@strong nest

[full stream]

can try putting thorns 1 tile to the left and pointing down still in ptil heal range

the red avenger could easily fuck up auto here since auto really cant stand units dying in short amount of time then getting replace

but then again u dont auto ls 6

[umbral mountain]

True I'll just fix it when my sanity is up

low-key I really want to get Ines to e2 before exulter is out

[umbral mountain]

Update
Tried it and the funny arts drone fly over to the blue box

[verbal harness]

How do I clear H-9 6? I've been struggling for a while now with this account https://krooster.com/u/ironchamp

[weak gazelle]

what is H9-6 again?

[rapid junco]

Mandra and gargoyle fest

[full terrace]

You have the dps

This is just pillars management and positioning

Borrow Wis to make things easier

Positioning is more or less like this #strategy message

Just make sure you drop pillars on Mandra properly

[weak gazelle]

ohh that one
is dps check ya

and btw you can stall mandra p1 to eternity, so can re-setup your ops for mandra p2 :ya:

well i do that when play 5* only, maybe doesnt need it if using 6*

[humble nymph]

i still can't clear 7-18

if i try use just the mines he dies where all my ops are

and nukes them

and that invincibility phase fucks me over

i was hoping to keep a small shred of dignity but i guess i can't even have that

wisadel it is

[full terrace]

It's better if you finish it and clear a bit more of Chapter 8 for Originite Primes. Exu banner is coming in a few days.

Not like you going to farm the stage anyway

[humble nymph]

true thank you

i managed to clear it now =w=

[maiden hound]

no problem

[full terrace]

Congrats there

[molten ridge]

How do i beat Quantitative treatment? I keep trying different ways but it always one enemy slipping off or killing one of them

[pearl compass]

What stage again?

[molten ridge]

E2 Ptilopsis paradox stimulation

[pearl compass]

https://youtu.be/WQQraF9tKPY

[molten ridge]

Ty

[celest bluff]

Why people first instinct isn't search clears on youtube

[pearl compass]

[full stream]

people have pride🥹

[celest bluff]

All that pride to just ask in this channel

[mild wind]

erm

[vocal leaf]

happy pride 🏳️‍🌈

[pearl compass]

It's not June.

[stray isle]

That changes nothing

It's always pride

[lofty sundial]

they feel lonely, want interaction

[next wigeon]

Don't worry, you embody enough essence of June

[pearl compass]

Nah, being gey is banned in Russia.
I'll go straight up to Gulag if I say yes.

[vocal leaf]

don’t worry your secret is safe

[rough quail]

is team comp discussion for meme/niche clears ok here?

or is it mostly for people struggling with first time clears?

[pearl compass]

Actually that, but if you're unsure with niche clears, we can do some hints here.

If we're capable to.

[rough quail]

was mostly doing some silly runs of the farmable stages. I had a 4 op clear of LS6, and was wondering if it'd be more "impressive/challenging" to clear with 5 vanguards instead

[pearl compass]

Axeman, Avengers, HeavDefs and ArtsDrones, huh.

Don't know if you have a chance to kill all +DefDrones.

[rough quail]

with the just vang squad, Ines S3 can tear them up, I think. Assuming the redeploy time isnt too slow... My 4 op auto was gladiia holding one of the heavy def lanes and whirlpooling the drones

[full terrace]

It can be cleared with a handful of 2 ops combo. Also why are you auto-ing LS-6 again?

[rough quail]

trying to speed up raising Proviso and tequila to e2 so I can up my base efficiency. nothing to really grind for atm so trying to squeeze that in before the event starts

im usually either running the red certs, lmd, or records when theres a gap between events

[merry narwhal]

I use the Scene, Plat, Santalla trio for ls-6

But thanks to the new base rooms, there's really no need to trust farm anymore

[glass monolith]

QoL to display "Max Trust" on new base rooms when

[rough quail]

funny enough, I dont actually trust farm on my farm stages. I do something like low op vanguardknights, and then just leave it as is XD

[pearl compass]

Just mark the ops without 200% and sort them.

(Doesn't work at Base at all)

[scarlet fulcrum]

so based

[eternal iris]

How do i beat 6-5

[dapper hedge]

Whats your ops

6-5 are mostly just deployment check

[eternal iris]

And as support i js get my friend's wis'adel

[pearl compass]

Lin support

[eternal iris]

The dragon gal?

[autumn loom]

rat

the caster girl

[rough quail]

its pretty much a defense check right? have a defender in range of the throwers so they get stuck throwing at them until death right?

[eternal iris]

Got it

[eternal iris]

Dont have anyone w that support

[pearl compass]

The spinnin rat

https://tenor.com/view/lin-yuhsia-arknights-orb-pondering-gif-4542526462622598370

[eternal iris]

Yeh i dont got any support w her

[dapper hedge]

This is super unoptimized but whats the issue if you're borrowing wis

[full terrace]

Borrow Ling (Supporter) and do this https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=I2a6FT4GOEk&list=PLdcpPSF3owK7fAnWLXXn5LkPjr2t4u7tF&index=44&pp=gAQBiAQB

[eternal iris]

She keeps gettin killed

[pearl compass]

Don't let the zombies destroy Wis Revenant underneath her, or she will become targetable.

No wonder it will be seconds to live for her.

[eternal iris]

How exactly do i evitate that

[dapper hedge]

Ressumon them with s3

Retreat them before u use the skill

[pearl compass]

The damaged one

[dapper hedge]

so you have fresh full hp ones

[pearl compass]

To spawn new with full HP

[eternal iris]

Ok ok

[dapper hedge]

Just watch the vid i did

[eternal iris]

Made it, tty

[midnight flax]

Haven't tested it myself yet but wouldn't exu alt's s2 synergize really well with mr nothing's talent?

Perma stun

[autumn loom]

yes he gets permastun

on the other hand you can just tragodia blast enemies to stall and use exu as an actual dps instead of a cursed stun enabler

[midnight flax]

Figured, was just curious if it was actually possible

[full terrace]

Yes that synergy replaces the Nothing/Erato tech

[astral cosmos]

erato optimised out... yikes...

[rough quail]

I really want to know if Exu Alt's s2 can target Jessicalter's shield

cuz then she'd possibly be putting a barrier on the shield for extra tankiness, and pulling the aspd essentially out of the air

all gain, no downsides

[fringe solstice]

It says allied operator so no

[rough quail]

sadness

[sinful lichen]

I’m faltering in the later stages. What are some tips for late game stages like Separated Hearts S2-1?

[astral cosmos]

S2-1 is one of the farthest you can be from late game

[sinful lichen]

*Early

[astral cosmos]

what's your squad

[sinful lichen]

I came back after a while and these were my two teams.

The second one got wiped, and the first one barely scraped by.

I could only kill the first big guy when he was standing still.

[astral cosmos]

uh, did you not pull at all?

[sinful lichen]

I did, but I didn’t like the characters.

[astral cosmos]

well, neither of these teams will get you very far

[sinful lichen]

Do I need to pull more?

[astral cosmos]

what's your full roster

[sinful lichen]

Aside from those two teams

[astral cosmos]

did you use your vouchers from your depot

[sinful lichen]

I don’t know what either of those are. The recruitment drives?

[astral cosmos]

show a screenshot of your depot

[astral cosmos]

the four below the red expedited plans

you can check #help pins for who to pick, but since you're going by preference, I'm afraid there's a chance it won't help you much

[sinful lichen]

Are there strategies for Separated Hearts?

[astral cosmos]

with functional squads, most definitely

[sinful lichen]

._.

Would the Vanguard Robot help? I hear you can get him from Recruit.

[astral cosmos]

there is no vanguard robot atm, if you mean Confess, it's coming on the 14th
the help it will provide will be abysmal, though

[astral cosmos]

so those are the only ops you are willing to build

[sinful lichen]

Isn’t Castle-3 vanguard?

[astral cosmos]

he is a guard

[sinful lichen]

Oh

I just like military looking units with a bias towards low rarity. It worked out fine in NIKKE, Product 23 was exceptional. This game seems harsher when choosing based off style.

I got the skin for Jessika.

[astral cosmos]

it really is
that is probably the most restrictive squad I have ever seen in 5 years of playing

[sinful lichen]

I don’t get why they cap the level of low tier characters. They already have lower stats…

[astral cosmos]

they're meant to be low performance ops
and oh well, only hg knows the answer

eh well, if you like military ops, did you check out the next event?
Sankta Miksaparato could fit your criteria

[sinful lichen]

How am I to handle an event? I can’t even crack 2-2.

But he looks so cool.

[astral cosmos]

my unfortunate answer to most of these questions will be, with a good squad
or a strong borrow, really, but I doubt you'll go down that road

unless the borrow fits your critera

[sinful lichen]

I’ll probably just crack and build random characters. I have to get far in hopes Mayors becomes playable.

[astral cosmos]

well, if you like military-style operators, you can check your recruitment voucher right below the expedited plans. it has Liskarm, surely she fits your criteria

[fiery carbon]

They are super cheap to put down and are super easy to get, if any character becomes myrtle this game will be too unbalanced

[sinful lichen]

What’s Myrtle?

[fiery carbon]

Strongest vanguard in the game despite being a 4 star. Arguably strongest operator

[astral cosmos]

building a niche around your preference is definitely possible, it's just that doing it right off the bat is very restrictive
since you don't have much built yet, you'd rather get a good-going squad and focus on building your niche thanks to the content you will clear with your functional squad

[astral cosmos]

?
strongest vg is ines

[fiery carbon]

Nono

[sinful lichen]

oh no
bad question

[fiery carbon]

I mean in terms of stats and general niche yeah but

Myrtle is the general vanguard that u get for dp

[astral cosmos]

thank god we aren't in #help I'd have exploded already
the myrtle agenda has not been seen ever since 2023

@sinful lichen did you already look around to find operators you like? in the wiki for example. so you can see who to look out for

[sinful lichen]

I got a flight, but I’ll check out the event and vouchers and whatnot later.

I looked at the wiki but there was a lot

A bit much to dig into off the start.

It was easier to sort through the 1 stars. Robots are cool.

[astral cosmos]

eh well if it's just off looks you can gaze around already. then again yeah we have more than 350 operators

[fiery carbon]

You'll probably like horn vigna Jessica alt and some other limited operators from that 1 military collab

[astral cosmos]

you cannot expect a R6S rerun

[fringe solstice]

tbf a lot of operators have a military feel to them

[fiery carbon]

Lol (I mean i get it i play with agent vanguards as well but for general stages u just need a strong myrtle and thats about it)

[sinful lichen]

Mighty unfortunate. Not many games with just straight up military units. GFL and NIKKE are based around it, but have very few units that are militaristic.

[remote perch]

If you want military, just check the BlackSteel Operators
if you just want guns, Sankta

[fiery carbon]

Honestly should I use gold certs for Ines or use them for pulls (or for guarantee) for exu alt

[astral cosmos]

pull on exualt to see if you accidentally get ines there

[haughty flower]

Cantabile, Surfer and Ines all outclass Myrtle at both holding early lanes and DP gen. She's long not been the best, simply an early cheap pick. In fact, even her 5* flagbearer variants beat her out.

She's shilled simply because she was one of the earliest flags players got and thus one of the best known. Not because she's objectively the best.

And also because her 4* vanguard brethren are all kinda omegalul at DP gen.

Looking at you, new 4* agent.

[wicked minnow]

she's also a 4* so more people build her over higher rarity counterpart

[sacred heath]

How do you s4-10

[regal frost]

screenshot map and enemies I'm lazy

@sacred heath

[regal frost]

oh that stage

squad pls

[sacred heath]

I need this stage to farm for mon3tr

[regal frost]

gel? shame Babel just ended

[sacred heath]

Need a bit more

Emptied out babel

[regal frost]

which enemy you struggling with btw?

is it the casters

[sacred heath]

I think I’m struggling a bit more with the fact there’s 10 of them

I can deal with 5 or so just fine

[regal frost]

try something like this

my pinecone is higher level than yours but hopefully it works

can use monsters summon to bait the bind casters

can also try use Amiya S3 since sarkaz have high res

[vital vessel]

any of you know a fast ap-5 trust farm

3 or 4 ops is fine

[scarlet fulcrum]

Cringe ops or brainded ops?

I mean finisher but whatever

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1Jz421X7rg/?spm_id_from=333.337.search-card.all.click this is technically the fastest

[vocal leaf]

just do gladiia ulpi with texas/yato to kill the guys outside of main lane

[scarlet fulcrum]

raidian still not here

[glass monolith]

I just farm it on snail pace with 3 ops

[vocal leaf]

you shouldn’t need more than 3 ops

[scarlet fulcrum]

yea u only need 1 op and fodder

Or even better all fodder

[somber stone]

whats fodder do

[scarlet fulcrum]

Trust farming duh

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1kJ8az9Eo7/?spm_id_from=333.337.search-card.all.click fastest after raidian exist

[vocal leaf]

and it’s free

CE can replace skalter?

[scarlet fulcrum]

Probably idr s1 cost tbh, but yea no buff

[vocal leaf]

75 lv7 / 65 m3

[scarlet fulcrum]

Oh yea s2 probably can cycle fast enough. Ive never try it tbh

And the expand heal just yea.....

[glass monolith]

Skalter is 200 to spark now, yes?

[scarlet fulcrum]

Good time with her in is4 back then

[vital vessel]

[scarlet fulcrum]

Just yea no need to use balze her if not raised

Just camp it

[vital vessel]

i have everyone here raised so might as well

i used to run penance and a landholder that can sustain but yea

[scarlet fulcrum]

chad

[vital vessel]

wth blaze s3 usage

[scarlet fulcrum]

yeah she is quite famous for speedrunner

[vital vessel]

i thought it was chen

[scarlet fulcrum]

chen, ash also another example yea

There are list somewhere but I forgor

[vital vessel]

horn also i've seen
anyway thanks

[scarlet fulcrum]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1Lb421h7rg/?spm_id_from=333.337.search-card.all.click can also just the usual suspect op

[sacred heath]

It worked

[regal frost]

oh nice

[full terrace]

Ulpi and Texas

[vital vessel]

not fast

[full terrace]

Define fast

I just clocked it

It's 114 secs

Idk how fast you are looking for but thats already pretty optimal because enemies dont just spawn right away

If by fast you mean to save like 5~6 secs I cant help you

The "fast" you are looking for is just to swiftly end the final wave, and the crowd before a killgate if there is any, surely you can think for yourself and add an op or two for that

[fiery carbon]

5 star variants dont charge dp as fast and as early as her... but yeah agent vanguards outclass myrtle in stages where there's a huge influx of early wave enemies and you need some sort of laneholding at the start.

[indigo shoal]

which operators are recommended to level up ?

[full terrace]

You can ask that in #help

[next wigeon]

E1 Base Slaves /Baseskills in #bot-spam

Also read #help pins

[full terrace]

Yo @teal moon

Do you have a chart for Mantragodia vs Nymphturia vs Bless You total damage

[regal frost]

bless you?

[vocal leaf]

new operator leak

[regal frost]

also he's probably getting food or something

[next wigeon]

Who's Bless you

[vocal leaf]

mantragodia is best, imagine needing a limited unit 🙅‍♂️

[teal moon]

bless should be blaze alter?

[full terrace]

Yeh

Do you have the total damage chart for it?

[teal moon]

numbers on Tragodia+Mantra are kinda ass since too dependant on conditions, I could make sth about it but it would be a bit too far from reality

from preliminary calcs Mantra s3+Tragodia s3 deals like 140k total dmg while Nymph s3+Virtuosa s3 deals around 200k

but remember that Mantra+Trag has better multitarget and stalling capability

if you want some graph I'll try to do some later the day

[full terrace]

Thanks appreciate it

[vocal leaf]

https://youtu.be/mGGNwvc6UgM?si=zX2LWdD4q_jhn-fk did you watch this @full terrace

[full terrace]

Not yet I'll go watch

Mantragodia seems very unstable

Damage fluctuates too much

[sly drift]

This video just pissed me somehow. This mf probably didn't even read the skill desc.
3:09 for example (and most of the clips). You don't pre activate the skill and wait for the enemies to appear on by one like that. That's the worst way to play mantra.

He bring only Tragodia to activate the skill only once. Effectively denying the core mechanic of Mantra. (Atleast bring some other useless skill just so that you can trigger the paralyze stack three times).

[vocal leaf]

i think the video was trying to be cohesive, using the s3 of the caster and its respective elemental support

how accurate was that idea, well, idk, tragodia is not even here

[full terrace]

I kinda agree that play wasnt optimal tho, Mantra's S3 seems to rely on Paralysis Stack and she applied that when an ally uses their skill

[teal moon]

there are too many conditional for her s3, just starting from the number of enemies in range

[full terrace]

So pre-casting the skill is kinda..

[teal moon]

how many ops in range activste their skills

[full terrace]

Yeah and her Talents too

[teal moon]

ecc ecc

[full terrace]

Way too RNG now I understand your frustration

How about this

You calc the minimum output

And also the maximum output

Then take the middle value between the two

[serene hornet]

math

[south spindle]

Its not RNG from her kit

Its literally about how many enemies in range

Just take it that it does 78K at the very least by herself no strings

110K given surely you can activate some other ops skill, literally anything so this part is very RNG in the sense like Reedic skill 3: how do u know how many explosions there will be?

And then like crazy high ceiling based on how many enemies there are

[south spindle]

This isn't how you get average for probability 🥹

[lapis hornet]

i don't see any rng?

it's perfectly deterministic if anything

[south spindle]

I mean how the S3 bounce targetting works

I dont know

But the problem is we don't know how many enemies for the sake of calcs

How many rotations of necrosis does Trag even get off

NI

whatever

[full terrace]

Talent says it has 13% chance to not consume the stack, meaning sometimes it consumes sometimes it doesnt. In the case where it consumes, sure no RNG, but in the case where it doesnt, that's +1 stack for the "overflow" for S3 and it also jumps to the other targets, thats RNG unless I understood it wrong.

[south spindle]

Oh that talent we don't even calculate

[lapis hornet]

idk how your new calc site works

[south spindle]

Its becaue it conflicts with S3 wanting paralysis to be overloaded

[full terrace]

Bruh I said the Talents tho 😒 #strategy message

[lapis hornet]

viktor used to have boxes you could check for conditionals or boxes where you could input them

[south spindle]

That talent requires blocking

[lapis hornet]

or they just made few assumptions

[full terrace]

That "RNG" was the continuation about what I said earlier about the Talents*

[south spindle]

I know but im saying most of talent 1 damage requires blocking of some sort

which she can't do solo

If you want super idealistic numbers

just mantra damage of course on single target its gonna be uhh

[lapis hornet]

same as reed s2 no

[south spindle]

114K

Wait something feels wron

Oh it is wrong

120K it is

Super idealistic, to the point you are blocking the enemy to get her talent 1 to proc ya

[lapis hornet]

oh wait she does have rng talent gg

[south spindle]

the rng talent is easy to calculate

just usually dont calculate a talent if you wont pull it off half the time

and if we say mantra solo... well shes not blocking

[cosmic edge]

How do I clear 15-6? I can dm my operators.

[lapis hornet]

is there any special tricks

deploy units on tiles before prts does idk?

[full terrace]

You are the one calculating this kind of stuff, I'm not gonna argue on how you gonna get the accurate numbers. I know you can calc more accurate numbers but you turned me down several times so I kinda gave up on the idea of asking you. I ask JJ for the numbers, just for rough numbers, for comparison against the other Primals combo, precision is not 100% needed, I just need an image in my head for this not for the exact calculation.

[south spindle]

Oh you asked JJ for primal combos gotcha

I only did Mantra I didn't do Tragodia or even Tragodia alone

🫡

[full terrace]

I just need to know like, "Mantra is roughly ¾ ~ ⅘ of Nymph damage" something like that

Just for the image in my head

[south spindle]

Uh do you want arts and elemental damage seperated?

[full terrace]

Uh.. no need to, I just need the total damage

[south spindle]

80K minimum
120K maximum (2 ally skills, blocking, near right red box)

[full terrace]

And Nymph? And Blaze?

[south spindle]

and then +alot of damage based on how many other enemies there are

I am not sure about Blaze at all

Actually now I dont know how much nymphturia is post Arturia / Nymph mod

errr

[full terrace]

Here use this playlist for visual reference https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4xjtpuTwuCc&list=PLdcpPSF3owK6R-Vt6rOfWVR0tHl2ZPWg6&index=7&t=9s&pp=2AEJkAIBgAQBiAQB

[teal moon]

the rng talent is easy to calc, the problem is considering dmg based on situations. Like I currently reached 6 charts and could do more

[teal moon]

200k

[south spindle]

200K seems too over

what

[teal moon]

maybe 190k but roughly that

[south spindle]

I got 160K

🚬

[teal moon]

maybe you're also forgetting Nymph mod?

[south spindle]

this is post nymph mod

and virtuosa first mod

[teal moon]

wait a moment

[full terrace]

My apology for derailing a bit guys, I just wanna congratulate my homie @ripe trellis for successfully ragebaiting getting featured in Supah's latest video
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pjNTGIf6nII&t=84s&pp=2AFUkAIB

[south spindle]

no fucking way

LMFAOOO

[ripe trellis]

thank you thank you

🔥

its ok he learned this time

instead of 4th interchangeable with 10th, it is now a few slots up or down

[full terrace]

You goddamn ape! 😂😂

[ripe trellis]

🗣️ 🔥

massive improvement thanks to my feedback btw

as u can see

penance and mudrock are nowhere near

[south spindle]

im about to ping supah

[full terrace]

100/100 sis 😂

[south spindle]

[ripe trellis]

[south spindle]

wait im in there too wtf

[ripe trellis]

i namedropped u

honorary mentions

[south spindle]

fuiyoh

🥀

[south spindle]

I miss nymph talent 1

my fault

@full terrace
Nymphtuosa- 200K
Mantragodia Ideal - 240K+

@teal moon

So this is super ideal but

Mantra talent 2 is active on target (para +1)
What Im doing is that Tragodia is using basic attacks to start to proc Nervous once (#1, 10s)
And you activate Mantra skill right before NI procs first time (para +2, overflow 1, NI para overflow +3)
When nerv#1 ends, pop Tragodia skill (Mantra skill 10/40s) (overflow +2)
Then tragodia procs nervous 3 more times (overflow +3x3)
Atlesat 2 paralysis stacaks get consumed by enemy blocked by Traogida cage, so Mantra talent 1 proc x2.36 times (with geometric series convergence)

Tragodia does damage on/off skill total 40K Arts
Nervous procs 4 times total 24K Elem
Mantra does arts damage that is buffed sometimes by active nervous, 85K Arts
Mantra S3 overflows 15 times for ~96K Elem
Mantra talent 1 procs atleast 2.36 times average whilst blocked by Tragodia, ~13K Elem
If enemies consume S3 overflow stacks before they are discharged, it will still proc Mantra Talent 1 which can do more damage via the recursion chance

[teal moon]

that talent is huge lol

[south spindle]

Yeah it is 😭

[teal moon]

240k st?

[south spindle]

Yes, 246K average im getting

idk if the Mod1 trait

applies to her overflow/talent 1

but 236K without it, 246K with it

[teal moon]

but it's like a situation that happens one time every blue moon

[south spindle]

I mean 2 operators, not that crazy

[teal moon]

and the bulk of the dmg should be arts

[south spindle]

Only really crazy is that Tragodia can proc the nervous with mantra on multiple enemies

[lapis hornet]

zamn mantra not top 10

gg time to skip

[south spindle]

135K Elemental?
110K Arts?

I mean Tragodia is cheating a bit with off skill damage

This is a 40 second Window with another 40s downtime

Lets compare it to Exu2 almighty...

Whos entire on and off skill cycle is 40 seconds jfc

[full stream]

2 hours🎦

[south spindle]

God forbid I got other things to do

[weak gazelle]

hmm
so higher result than my initial expectation of mantra
pretty much now i know what to do

[south spindle]

Uh this is mantra + trag

I mightve done something wrong

Someone should fact check me

But mantra real strength is with multiple enemies

[full terrace]

240k ideal? What about the opposite?

So you are saying in the best situation they have 40k higher total damage than Nymphturia

Thats crazy

[weak gazelle]

dw
primal caster never able to ditch their enabler
in this mantra case she doesnt 'picky' on who the enabler are

[cosmic edge]

Who should get benched to replace thorns with?

Doing story

[weak gazelle]

it just her s3 so complicated to translate into a number

[cosmic edge]

I see thorns been used everywhere

[lapis hornet]

zamn dagda indra

[glass monolith]

People using what is working for them.

[cosmic edge]

Yea I like dagda and indra since they have cockney accents

[weak gazelle]

sorry to say this, compared to your roster thorns are nothing
but for gen content which is easy mode he is okay i dont see a problem if you plan to build him

[cosmic edge]

I kept losing with this team

Though thorns would help

[glass monolith]

Losing to what exactly, this game has quite a list of stages

[weak gazelle]

huh?
this is something

[cosmic edge]

15-6

[lapis hornet]

logos mod is huge upgrade for him tbh

without he feels worse than eyja no kappa

[weak gazelle]

or right logos modless

[glass monolith]

15-6 is meet the DP binder or?

[weak gazelle]

mod him yeah as cake said
tho idr which module good for him

sorry i didnt play ch 15 yet so i have no say for this

[south spindle]

The ideal is like caring about timing skills for the correct rotations,
If you do that then the damage is 240K
If you just press skills at same time its different

[glass monolith]

Oh 15-6 is where you are introduced to vending machine spamming summons.

Faster you kill them faster you stop their endless spam which could overwhelm your block count

[cosmic edge]

Still I do feel like thorns could do it better

I managed to beat it finally somehow

[lapis hornet]

brother wdf

[cosmic edge]

?

[cosmic edge]

I'm playing it wrong?

[lapis hornet]

oh you beat it gg

as long as you win

you're doing it right

[cosmic edge]

My team has to have both dagda and indra

[south spindle]

@full terrace okay without syncing the cycle a little,
its still like 210K damage if thats whats considered ideal or not
There really isn't much to go wrong, just a matter of uh press Mantra skill right before Tragodia attacks them to nervous! Then activate Tragodia skill the second the nervous off CD

[lapis hornet]

add them somewhere then

[weak gazelle]

currently thinking
as IS dweller
do i build mlynar or get leizi2 and built her instead
or build both

[cosmic edge]

Mlynar is good?

I have him built I think but I don't use him

[lapis hornet]

I barely play is can't help sry

[weak gazelle]

oh yeah how much improvement mod mantra?
is it +30% average?

[lapis hornet]

don't think I touched him.once since wis logos

[weak gazelle]

its liberator so its good :ya:

[glass monolith]

Nuke button with 40 second downtime

[cosmic edge]

Is mine good? If it is, then I'll use him

I don't know what mod is

[weak gazelle]

dw
it just IS6 are raidian core really piss me off
so i have to find a way to play without her

[cosmic edge]

I maxed everything without knowing what they do

[lapis hornet]

opie

[glass monolith]

Is he ragebaiting or brought account?

[south spindle]

I think I saw some stuff about IS6 just dual liberator core

[cosmic edge]

I just came back, last time I played was last year

November

[weak gazelle]

you have him... so throw away thorns idea

[lapis hornet]

liberators suggs

only good when there's nothing that match their dmg smh

[cosmic edge]

Ok

[glass monolith]

1v29 me on duel channel

[weak gazelle]

just deploy him, wait until skill full and press it

[glass monolith]

Just in case don't forget important step of having enemies in range

[weak gazelle]

that what i do when bored, slashing wind

[full terrace]

So you are saying Mantra combo deals more damage than Nymph combo and @teal moon (sorry for the ping) is wrong?

[weak gazelle]

ohh so there is liberator core
maybe i will ask mei about it later

[south spindle]

Uh JJ's number seemed like it was only Mantra's damage

[full terrace]

Also what about Blaze damage, is it at like half Mantra damage or?

[south spindle]

I dont know anything about Blaze

my eyes are failing

JJs got it

🥹

The part where I could be entirely wrong is how Tragodia's nervous procs work with Mantra's paralysis overflow

[weak gazelle]

blaze honestly good, but the part that burn enabler is mandatory killing her value so much

[south spindle]

Tragodia can literally send Mantra

blue tooth support across the map on S2

Whats the cat CD 25s?

Enough to proc nervous like twice iirc

[cosmic edge]

Do people even use ash these days?

[full stream]

What for?

[south spindle]

Yeah, using the cat in Mantras range is a free 22K single target damage, (not from the cat)
Potentially doubled and given to the next enemy via overflow

[glass monolith]

R6 one? Seen people claim they used it to stun goalkeeper in stupid coop shit i hate it for adding no entities i will never fill in my enemy thing

[cosmic edge]

She's sadly just sitting there not being used like the others

[cosmic edge]

I like to make the game harder for me by using what units I like rather than their usability

[weak gazelle]

ash? uh ummm... ditch it
after all these years i have no chance to use her anywhere :icant:

[lapis hornet]

ya

last time I used ash was in ccb2 or smth

as a stun bomb for a daily

loles

maybe ccb1 idr which one

[cosmic edge]

I think I'm the only one who still uses wis

I don't have the stronger one

[lapis hornet]

you can use whoever you want

[glass monolith]

Know operator strengths. Learn enemy weakness. Adapt to challenges
Fail at winning, give up and ask discord what is "broken meta BS" of today

[cosmic edge]

Am I playing it correctly? I used kirin like she's a instant unit

After she does her thing I remove her

Same goes with Texas alt

[full stream]

Yeah that's what executor is

[glass monolith]

More or less, no reason to keep them around as you get value from skills which need new deployment

[cosmic edge]

Glad I'm Doing it right

And for shu, I could replace her with mudrock right? She does have her healing ability

[lapis hornet]

mudrock doesn't heal anyone else

[cosmic edge]

I mean to herself

Like a standalone shielder

[lapis hornet]

situational

mud can get overwhelmed by some the hardest stuff nowadays

but for ez stuff you don't rly need that lvl of tanking either most of them time

[cosmic edge]

Because I was looking at kurfur stage

I think that's where she shines best

[full terrace]

Oh I thought the context was Mantragodia, I see now. Correct me if I'm wrong, the TLDR is:

Mantra (alone): 80k~120k
Mantragodia: 210k~240k?

And Nymphturia is 200k

[south spindle]

80K~120K for Mantra Alone

The rest looks good

Hell you can low ball Mantragodia to 200K

[full terrace]

Okay sorry I remember it wrong

Lemme edit

[south spindle]

Also

For Tragodia S2,

Even if you use him half way across the map

deploying the cat

Should be free 20K single target damage

(Not from the cat, but Mantra herself, during S3)

[full terrace]

I see

[south spindle]

Technically double to 40K damage off the bounce but 20K ST

[full terrace]

I mean, if I'm using that combo I'm using his S3 anyway