strategy

[steel prairie]

slowly

[opaque stirrup]

listening

[next wigeon]

Im listening also

[brisk surge]

im not

[next wigeon]

You are blocked by him

Ofc you are not smh

[brisk surge]

ARF

[full terrace]

Oh this dude I remember him, he was the one who blocked Fredi

[brisk surge]

how do emergency

[full terrace]

There #strategy message

[brisk surge]

regular

army

[full terrace]

Might be troll at this point

[opaque stirrup]

u don't

refresh

[brisk surge]

NO

[next wigeon]

Im basically questioning how this guy is playing

[brisk surge]

arf has all the guides

i can clear

[opaque stirrup]

go die to it then

[steel prairie]

Yes... she has one of the highest healings for a medic;... BUT
she has bad range... and while you can compensate that for her drone
A: the drone takes up a tile slot... which prevents you from deploying another unit...
ALSO... since it takes up a tile it also has to be on a tile that ALLOWs you to deploy on it
on top of that... because her range is bad... she has to be upfront... which often leads to her getting snipped by enemies... she is also my medic that dies the most

[full terrace]

Same strat as the normal one

Helidrop someone to kill cars

[brisk surge]

but tiles in the middle has necrosis 🥀

[steel prairie]

also that drone takes FOREVER to charge up

[full terrace]

Then deploy Wis/Logos on Camouflage tile

[next wigeon]

Bro those are not even major problems

[steel prairie]

to the point my Ops died already

[full terrace]

Thats why Eyjaberry

[steel prairie]

yes they are... a lot of times I cant even fukin use the drone because no tiles left to put on

[full terrace]

Necrosis is there whether its normal or emergency

[opaque stirrup]

so skill issue
skills issue
and positionin issue

[brisk surge]

i see

so i really need to draft healers

[full terrace]

You got the video tho

[steel prairie]

lol sure... when a lot of maps you dont even have any usuable tiles to place on

[versed arrow]

???? she has normal medic range. She does not get hitted unless you deployed in enemy's range which should not have happened in the first place

[full terrace]

The one I sent you

[next wigeon]

They aren't I used her alot, and it just needs to utilise the deployment mechanic

[opaque stirrup]

buddy what type of range do u want

therapist medic range

[brisk surge]

ye i get the strat

[next wigeon]

Mulberry is objectively shit at healing

[opaque stirrup]

[brisk surge]

i just dont draft medics

🥀

[steel prairie]

I really like Mulberry super wide spread range... so she often stays out of the fire

[opaque stirrup]

ever heard of deployment order

[next wigeon]

Any Wandering Medic that isn't Eyja Alter is shit at healing

[steel prairie]

but Silence range is way too narrow

[opaque stirrup]

[steel prairie]

yes.. but like on many of the live streams it doesnt really matter... she still gets snipped

[next wigeon]

They have too low atk stats

[opaque stirrup]

k now

he is trolling

I ain't doin this

[steel prairie]

literally even showed that she got snipped even when deployed first

[next wigeon]

Its a really minor issue

[brisk surge]

first time ???

[opaque stirrup]

gonna play core protocol

gn guys

[steel prairie]

minor ??? then how do my Ops even live then ???

[next wigeon]

I have no idea what you are doin

[versed arrow]

if you followed deployment and still get sniped = you deployed her closet to enemy. You are asking for it to happen

[steel prairie]

bruh you just proved my other point... because her range is relatively short... she has to be super close to the front

[proud bluff]

You really should go do tutorial again
You even win 200 for doing so

[next wigeon]

You really don't

[opaque stirrup]

don't indulge this anymore

just don't

[versed arrow]

i didnt, you should deploy her behind your ops, not in front of your ops.

[opaque stirrup]

let him do what he wants

[steel prairie]

I already did and I already proved it before

[steel prairie]

if you put directly behind she will still miss out because her range is so narrow... unless you deploy a 2nd medic

[proud bluff]

Doing it does not prove you understand it
If your ops get sniped, it's a deployment order issue, which is basic arknight mechanic

[full terrace]

What is the debate about even. Silence vs Mulberry?

[opaque stirrup]

apparently silence is a shit medic now

[proud bluff]

Silence is shit because bad range and squishy, or smth 🚬

[full terrace]

Nah the player is shit

[versed arrow]

he claim silence is bad cause normal medic has bad range he cant deploy properly without dying

[opaque stirrup]

silence has more hp than mul iirc

[versed arrow]

placement issues

[next wigeon]

I don't know anymore what you are doing

[full terrace]

Thats just deploy order lol

[next wigeon]

Are you even utilizing deployment order

[steel prairie]

YES... I literally even showed that during a AOE attack Silence keeps on dying while Mulberry somehow lives

[full terrace]

What even justifies Mulberry usage over Silence?

[next wigeon]

Did you try placing it abit further back

[steel prairie]

yes... and also the more back she will be out of range

[next wigeon]

You just needed a 1 tile gap to nullify it

[proud bluff]

She's cuter

[next wigeon]

She has the range of a Sniper

Utilize it

[brisk surge]

TRUE ❤️

[next wigeon]

I'm not being mean or rude about it but what you are doing is pretty nonsensical

This is a straight fact

No sneers or malicious intent intended

[steel prairie]

that... already ruins the range flexibility

[somber shuttle]

[next wigeon]

What

[versed arrow]

placement issues, if she got hitted by aoe, it means you deploy on wrong place. are you even placing medics beside the last op that was to be hitted

[somber shuttle]

im sure deployment order was taught in the earlier chapters

if your medic is dying first then you are at fault

[steel prairie]

well to me it sounds like your trying force me to use the most meta characters as possible... also this is due to the fact few other people on this server said my team was fine or decent... but then you guys just straight up think its trash

also other people here saw my Silence die first on live

[next wigeon]

I'm not forcing you to do Meta

Its really not that good

I can accept you doing Chen Lvl 90

[steel prairie]

sounds like you are... especially since other people here said that my team was ok but you guys said it was "straight tash"

[next wigeon]

But everything else is all over the place

[somber shuttle]

chen usage in this day and age

🚬

[proud bluff]

ok background check

[brisk surge]

maybe because he blocked everyone that gave actual advice instead of ass kissing

[full terrace]

Why not do neither 😏

[next wigeon]

Because that team is closer to guarknights than an almost universally useable team

[brisk surge]

im chinese its in our culture to be snappy and sarcastic when we answer questions

[next wigeon]

A normal team does not need 6 - 7 Laneholders

You have those

Your normal medic is one of the shittiest ones

Even Gavial would be better

[steel prairie]

its to avoid stalling

[proud bluff]

Oh he's not ragebaiting

[steel prairie]

look I know how so many people said that Mulberry is not good and Silence is good... but for my encounters... Silence is not that suitable

[next wigeon]

Let me remind you that Kal'sit is not used as a medic but someone that holds a lane

[brisk surge]

nope just insane skill issue

[steel prairie]

Silence just dies way too much and not many tiles that allows her to use her drone... + that drone takes a very long time to recharge up

[steel prairie]

I mainly use her mon3ter as bait

[next wigeon]

Most newbies start with silence and not many of them complain about it

They do the same stages as you

But barely any of them complain

[haughty flower]

Only thing you're baiting is astrel.

[odd grotto]

bro did u try specter, she is a great laneholder that doesnt require a lot of healing and can self sustain

[next wigeon]

Im genuinely trying to help them

[next wigeon]

Sahur not fckin now

[versed arrow]

I think you are trolling at this point, e1 silence has standard marksman range. Most maps has places that you can place her to safely heal from the back. If your e1 silence die, its skill issue or you are trolling

[vital vessel]

tung tung tung

[steel prairie]

thats because its either thats the only medic they have... and 2nd its because for my situation I felt lied too... when I got rid of Silence it felt SO MUCH EASIER... like a lot easier... dont have to put so much pressure just to get in range and let her live

[next wigeon]

Istg I'm asking the mods to warn you again Sahur if it needs to be

[proud bluff]

🍿

[brisk surge]

ragebaitcentral

[still vessel]

silence slander will NOT be tolerated

[steel prairie]

you can ask the other peeps that say my livestream... ok....

that went of for fukin 12 FUKIN HOURS

[proud bluff]

Buddy, i'm sorry, there's no flame, no hard feelings
You've been here a month, you have over 3k messages on the discord, and you don't even know or care about deployment order
Might be the time for a reality check, either try to understand the game mechanics, or move on

[brisk surge]

guys standard st medic range is too short its impossible to play game without ejyaberry pls reroll

[steel prairie]

like some levels I literally nearly jumped of a microwave....until I solved my DP issues and such

[versed arrow]

imagine all the years we played without the berries range

[brisk surge]

bye mayu

blocked

[steel prairie]

bruh Im less than a month old into this game... why do you keep assuming I played 6 years straight ???

[still vessel]

he aint talking bout you

[full terrace]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[brisk surge]

XDD

i think mayu is already blocked hes not even replying

[proud bluff]

[still vessel]

anyone know how many tiles lucian tps after being blocked

[odd grotto]

https://www.youtube.com/@KyoStinV 👍

[next wigeon]

I didn't, I'm just using 6 years of tried and tested experience on what ops good to use

[steel prairie]

you can say that all you want... but other peeps have already saw it that my medics no matter what tends to get snipped very easily...
also on top of that you guys literally just prove my point of high dp cost BECAUSE you have to get the medic in first

so on avg thats around 40 dp

[brisk surge]

mayu not blocked

[crystal python]

flagbearers exist

[steel prairie]

typically I only have 15 dp around that time... nowhere enough to get good units in without sacrificing a medic

[odd grotto]

whats ur team myon

[vital vessel]

where's sator

[steel prairie]

scroll up... Im too tired to repost my pictures

[radiant dune]

What level is bro even on what’s happening

[next wigeon]

KyostinV can do stages on natural dp gen, Vanguards isn't that necessary but is used for faster deployment

[full terrace]

Shush dont snitch, I just grabbed my popcorns

[proud bluff]

It's deeper than that

[vital vessel]

no someone just posted scam on #trading-post #bot-spam and #lungmen-city

[crystal python]

i tried to scroll back to see, saw this has been going on for over an hour, and gave up

[steel prairie]

btw I did watch his video.. and even trying to mimick some of his videos a lot of things goes completly differently

[brisk surge]

oh

i wanan see

[versed arrow]

same, all I saw was us disproving his point of high dp. Idk what he read

[next wigeon]

#strategy message

[steel prairie]

you guys literally proved my point on high dp cost thats around 40 dp

[next wigeon]

It's mostly Guards

[odd grotto]

no way my man ast really hit me with the #

[crystal python]

why five guards..

[steel prairie]

more dps and less stalling

[odd grotto]

then ur not following correctly

[spring lily]

thats an ok team

[full terrace]

It's so silly I dont even wanna bother correcting him, it's his game let him ruin it

[versed arrow]

you never need 40 dp to deploy both melee+medic unless the enemy has global range. you can put your guard first, then your medic 3tiles behind guard. medic would never be in range of the enemy atk range. Dont even need to follow deployment order

[steel prairie]

I litearlly did... even did 1 to 1 bases... you can even ask other peeps

[odd grotto]

max skill on every op?

[brisk surge]

why 5 guards ❌
why 3 vanguards ✅

[steel prairie]

doesnt that disproves your point of deployment order that you guys assumed idk ???

[crystal python]

both. jesus

[proud bluff]

#strategy message

[next wigeon]

Its a useable but bad team where range is scarce

[crystal python]

my guy just use casters five guards is not necessary

[steel prairie]

also 3 tiles behind... bruh you only have 1 tile left for a frontline unit

[brisk surge]

a#strategy message

[next wigeon]

Why not use ranged dps hmmm???

[crystal python]

no i was agreeing

[next wigeon]

If you kill them fast enough then nothing is leaking

[steel prairie]

cause they are fragile

[versed arrow]

show screenshot of this, you have places for it on 99% of maps

[proud bluff]

He has surtr, and vulpis, and lappter

[next wigeon]

He's throwing away easy ways to win for unconventional solutions

[brisk surge]

e2 vanguard to hold lane

[versed arrow]

also no, it didnt, deployment order matters for units that is exposed to the enemy's range. If your unit is never in their range, it does not matter when it is deployed

[next wigeon]

They are supposed to be fragile because they aren't supposed to tank that isn't Phalanx Casters

[vital vessel]

can someone summarize myon's problem for me?

[proud bluff]

Skill issue

[next wigeon]

Did the tutorial not tell you about how to avoid Aoe Attacks and Ranged Attacks

[crystal python]

what mayu said

[proud bluff]

Also a severe case of tunnel vision

[next wigeon]

Most of the good units in this game is RANGED

[steel prairie]

isnt Silence range 4 tiles infront ??? so you said 3 tiles behind so that means 1 tile left for healing... and good luck placing a medic on this stage

[versed arrow]

he brings 3 vg cause he apparently needs 40 dp to deploy anything. Also he thinks silence is bad cause he cant place standard medic range without silence getting hitted

[full terrace]

Something something Silence sucks and Mulberry is much better, and you need 3 Vanguards every stage coz of DP issue. Well this is better summary #strategy message

[crystal python]

oh its mandragora boss stage

[versed arrow]

wrong tile for medic

[proud bluff]

#strategy message
Exhibit A 🥱

[crystal python]

that makes even less sense to have so many ground units

[steel prairie]

tell me which tile to place a medic (ignore the circle... that was for pillars)

[steel prairie]

ok first of all I didnt say Mulberry is outright better... its just she has some stuff thats better for me

[versed arrow]

bottom right of rightmost blue box, you put your staller on the topmost tile

[next wigeon]

Wtf are you doing

[astral cosmos]

@pure orchid don't u know japanese i forgot
@plain inlet needs some help translating stuff

[next wigeon]

I can do that run again with silence and no Wis'adel

[plain inlet]

does he?! I have a game to translate

[vital vessel]

fib knows jp

[next wigeon]

For no meta nonsense

[full terrace]

Good for you, best of luck

[astral cosmos]

oh wait fib does i forgot!

[plain inlet]

not sure if they wanna help a total weirdo translate stuff for a game

[astral cosmos]

neither of em are on anyway so

[plain inlet]

dang it...

[versed arrow]

hope you ppl had fun with myon, I am off for now

[ornate siren]

[steel prairie]

ok ??? how are you gonna heal your staller then on the very top then ???

[brisk surge]

what do you need

i can dabble a little depending on what you need

[full terrace]

What staller? What Medic? #strategy message

Just shoot that Mandra in the face

[plain inlet]

I'm...translating some keywords for a game from japanese to english (in turn, to brazilian portuguese)

since I'm brazilian I get to do twice as much I guess

[brisk surge]

keywords

can i get some examples

[plain inlet]

should I DM? idk if it's even appropriate to talk about it here

[brisk surge]

sure

[astral cosmos]

i barely backread but you're against borrowing right

[elder flume]

They alr cleared 9 19

Just using it as reference

[south spindle]

man what am i reading in here

[astral cosmos]

so backreading was, in fact, important
what even was the question this is a mess to read through

[south spindle]

is that rechord

hi schizo

[steel prairie]

I typically avoid borrowing yes

[astral cosmos]

[steel prairie]

it just started out Im wondering who should I E2 next after flametail

and they then try to get me to reccomend the most meta thing possible

[astral cosmos]

oh ok
is not e2ing flametail an option?

[south spindle]

even the badknights player is saying it

[vital vessel]

mf skill issue + no borrow is something i never wish upon my worst enemy

[south spindle]

what other vanguards do you have

no borrow is fine

[steel prairie]

I already E2 flametail... Im just wondering who should I E2 next

[elder flume]

Tldr Silence isnt working as well as Mulberry in Myon's runs and everyone shitting on Mulberry trying to get him to use Silence more is the majority of this 2 hour debate

[south spindle]

but you have to force yourself to try new things to improve

[astral cosmos]

alright then
in that case you lack arts dmg so lappy can be nice

[south spindle]

no one force him to do anything

but don't let him tell people mulberry is better

end of story

[steel prairie]

I can literally tell they want me to go for all meta

[steel prairie]

bruh.. I literally did not say Mulberry was outright better

I just said she has some traits that are useful for my squad

[astral cosmos]

my lv80 m6 mod3 mulberry can definitely tell you she is a shit medic
but whatever floats your boat ig

[next wigeon]

He didn't tho

[south spindle]

okay shes better in the situations you want

[next wigeon]

He just liked the range

[south spindle]

okay i didn't read too many details

[next wigeon]

That's it

[south spindle]

just saying cannot be a debate

[steel prairie]

its just a lot of situations like the map I showed earlier Silence isnt good at

[astral cosmos]

but ya just e2 lappy for now

[south spindle]

well if you are more comfortable using mulberry then alright

[steel prairie]

my regular lappy is E2 (she is very good)

[elder flume]

Tbh E2 the Ceobe you keep forgetting of

[steel prairie]

yeah ik

[elder flume]

Others have told you to get Krooster too

[next wigeon]

Also finished the stage with no meta involved

Lapplter wasn't on her good skill either

[astral cosmos]

i ain't talking about the regular lappy tho
after that, kal then zuo then surtr then ceobe
methinks

[full terrace]

And the Vanguards 😂

[south spindle]

what mul skill is better

[astral cosmos]

s1 generally

[next wigeon]

S1

[astral cosmos]

s2 when it's a big wave of elemental pressure then that's it for the stage
s1 tries to be more consistent (but admirably fails at it, honey is better)

[steel prairie]

is that Typhoon overthere ???

[next wigeon]

Yes

She isn't meta

She's in the good category

That's it

Basically she's just ranged thorns

[steel prairie]

yeah but in terms of range characters you have anyone weaker ???

because I dont have a range character of her category

[next wigeon]

You can just borrow

But that's how I cleared it

The previous Wis'adel image because someone asked for one

[steel prairie]

for me on the left section they are placed on the very top (literally spawn camping the enemy)

[south spindle]

they dont want to borrow

[astral cosmos]

hey astrel try it with totter

[next wigeon]

That'll take forever wtf

My Totter doesn't have Masteries smh

[astral cosmos]

anyway my idea for a gameplay was

zuo greythroat can probably do left
sth sth lappy saria ch'en for right
two options: cope flametail dodge or surtr, with like silence+mul+nearl
use like crownslayer gravel canta for the pillars

but we aren't doing in function of your roster amirite

[steel prairie]

btw I should have known how toxic AK help/strategy section is... when literally someone PRIVETLY DM me to not build crownslayer... even tho Im just using her as a bait/meatshield

[astral cosmos]

borrow mine!

[next wigeon]

Use Gravel she's more effective at being bait

[steel prairie]

it was for 8-3 when you need atleast 2 baits.... or even 3

[next wigeon]

Yato and Gravel

[crystal python]

it's just a waste of mats and resources to build an objectively bad character

[steel prairie]

ik but I didnt build her... she is just there as a punching bag

[astral cosmos]

lemao dming is wild
but ya these channels are very meta oriented so when something doesn't make any sense...

[proud bluff]

I'm not sure how you can find anything toxic there
We all tried to help you one way or another but you keep deflecting everything

[steel prairie]

yeah but the Tal stage was hard... ended up with needing 4 baits since for me Tal will burn twice in a roll

[astral cosmos]

fraud! borrow mine!

[crystal python]

yato p much functions the same way; you can even use some vanguards if youre really that pressed for redeploys

[steel prairie]

wdym??? your literally proving my point half of the time... your your making up sentences that I didnt even mention

[next wigeon]

Here's what I used didn't borrow Thorns btw used my own ops
https://youtu.be/75Rzdrdfy6E?

[astral cosmos]

crownslayer e0 actually works fine for talulah that is true

[steel prairie]

shes a free punching bag... obviously useful for that

[next wigeon]

Use Jaye

[willow sun]

how did it play out for you? i've done a couple of runs since, heres one where i had pretty terrible op luck but i had very good relic luck

[steel prairie]

I did use him

[astral cosmos]

there isn't any point in raising her further, that's the main point here
good bait but nothing beyond that, e0 is fine

[steel prairie]

yeah exactlyt... I didnt build her... but someone literally have to privetly dm not not build her like wtf ???

[astral cosmos]

they aren't wrong
probably misunderstood or something, either way, if you aren't building her further then gud

[proud bluff]

How am i making up sentences ?
Just show me what you mean then

[next wigeon]

I am building her
-# for Base Reasons later

[south spindle]

does silence buff her drone? talent/mod?

[proud bluff]

You're the one putting words in my mouth if you think me telling you to use deployment order mean i agree you need 40 dp to start a stage

[astral cosmos]

so what questions remain now?
instead of bullshitting around

[next wigeon]

No unless you count her +12 atkspd towards medic when she's present

[south spindle]

thats what i mean does it count as a medic
and does her mod1 healing on ground allies count

[next wigeon]

Then no

[south spindle]

aight

[next wigeon]

I don't think they do from my experience at least

But I didn't extensively tested it

Just borrowed her here and there for random comps

[south spindle]

Regardless it seems like a 100+ hps difference between silence and elemental healers

that aren't eyj*berry

[steel prairie]

Bruh you accused me of not knowing deployment order, then proceeds to approve my deployment order, then you disagree with my dp cost, then proceeds to agree with ir

[next wigeon]

Who knows? Im just laying here thinking on life's decisions

[steel prairie]

And then since you agree with my high dp cost, which is the reason why I need lots of VG

[full terrace]

I use Eyjaberry mainly for her global range

[south spindle]

What vanguards are you running

[full terrace]

When I need Medics to defend 2 lanes

[vital vessel]

damn you guys still going

[full terrace]

Ines only, she is sufficient for most stages

[next wigeon]

Mumu, Flametail and Texas

That's what they use

[south spindle]

Ah I see

[full terrace]

If I need more DP, I just bring an extra Flag and thats it

[next wigeon]

Tbh if dp is an issue I do wonder why not get a Flagbearer

That's basically their role

[steel prairie]

Also another problem with Silence: since her healing range is so narrow... it forces me to clump up my units... which is super vulnerable to AOE mages

[full terrace]

IS is usually Myrtle coz she doesnt cost much Hope

[next wigeon]

Basically ya

Either Myrtle or Ines

[astral cosmos]

why not use someone like ptilo or perfumer in that case

[steel prairie]

Btw I do occasionally use Myrtle

[next wigeon]

Why not use her then as a staple dp gen

More dps would be better than 3 vanguards

[steel prairie]

I wish she is more durable... and not leak

[south spindle]

If you're running 3 VG might as well just keep myrtle in there imo

[full terrace]

It's not either. Ines is the only Vanguard I need for most cases

[next wigeon]

Ummm that's not her job

Her job is print dp then retreat

Nothing else

[astral cosmos]

I have this uncanny feeling that this silence versus mulberry slop is completely useless and shouldn't even be discussed in the first place

[crystal python]

youre supposed to put myrtle somewhere preferably where she cant get hit. she cant lanehold

[next wigeon]

I've basically stopped tbh

Flagbearers can't Lanehold ever

[steel prairie]

Ik but because of my mental disorder I have very slow reaction time... so I often ended up being too late to deploy units

[crystal python]

or just myrtle + bagpipe/dp printer on death

[astral cosmos]

u can make use of pausing if u feel like ur getting slow

[steel prairie]

Also I play on Emulator... which actually is a disadvantage since you have to drag all the way across the screen

[next wigeon]

You do you
Pause deploy is nifty trick

[south spindle]

I use windowed emulator, it feels too big in full screen

[next wigeon]

What about keybinds?

[astral cosmos]

i still can't figure out pause deploy for the love of me
and i do dislike emu

[next wigeon]

I can but its shit on mobile

[south spindle]

mate lets do 10 reps of pause deploying right now

[steel prairie]

It is too big

[next wigeon]

I need to drag the exit button on mobile

[full terrace]

It's fine even if you dont do that, it's only like 0.x secs faster

[astral cosmos]

nah im not playing on my pc bro
it lags way more than when i play on my phone

[south spindle]

thats why window it and set your own size

[next wigeon]

Potato PC smh

[south spindle]

oh okay fair enough

[astral cosmos]

my pc is fine though!

[steel prairie]

Idk still playing around that

[next wigeon]

Your phone better built than your actual pc

[south spindle]

oor maybe your pc isn't fine

[astral cosmos]

it's fine tho

[elder flume]

Mobile is better since theres 2 ways to pause deploy
1 more than pc

[astral cosmos]

probably my phone is too good

[steel prairie]

But also I have a bigger problem..... for once in my life AK is arguably the WORST game to play on ultra wide monitor... which I have

[next wigeon]

Just get used to which one is the pause button

[south spindle]

which emu do you use?

[next wigeon]

Also play on 1x

[steel prairie]

Literally dragging a whole mile to dwploy

[south spindle]

window = not full screen

[next wigeon]

What's the other way?

[south spindle]

do you know your screen res

[steel prairie]

Ik but for me on a ultra wide it's still really long

[steel prairie]

3440 x 1440

[south spindle]

thats why you window it... to make it smaller

set your game to 1600x900

you don't need it to full screen

[elder flume]

Enemy info pausing
Used to be the only way to pause deploy after game removed it temporarily

[steel prairie]

I might try that again... but Jesus my eyes (I have actual eye issues)

[next wigeon]

Wait huh?

[south spindle]

well both aint gonna work

[steel prairie]

Can't see... which is why I have a big screen in the first place

[elder flume]

https://youtu.be/HlTbxgruaoc?si=LOuJHmCBsgq2fQHt

[south spindle]

okay then stil you can set your game to

2560x1440

thats not ultrawide

and considered normal res and still big

[steel prairie]

Yeah but compare to mobile it's kind of a pain to drag lol

[south spindle]

oh i thought you normally played emu

okay if you can just play on phone then nevermind

[next wigeon]

Hmmmmge

[steel prairie]

I do... until I realize... but I still usually use PC

Just going through the suffering

Now I probably see why Arknights PC is taking so long

[next wigeon]

Quick question do you play on 1x or 2x

[south spindle]

Isn't your phone flat out smaller than your computer

[next wigeon]

If 2x then set it to 1x for more reaction time

[elder flume]

Both light are here

[south spindle]

No AK pc cannot be harder to make they just dont bother

[steel prairie]

1x but with mental disorder it still feels to fast sometimes

[south spindle]

Okay this is why you mess with settings

figure out correct res

and then pause spam

to control your game play

[next wigeon]

You should learn how to use pause deploy to make the game experience more manageable

[south spindle]

theres no way PC will hurt your eyes more than a mobile phone

[steel prairie]

Yes but as a tech nerd and often play other games PC is just my preferred device to play

[lofty stag]

I just don’t play on pc cuz I’m lazy

also I hate long load times

[steel prairie]

Nonono not hurt my eyes... it's just my eyes suck at seeing small things

[south spindle]

keep the monitor atleast 16 inches from your face

[next wigeon]

But the Radiation

[south spindle]

i see

use higher dpi

moves mouse faster

easier to drag

if thats hard literally force yourself to use higher dpi you get used to it in 2 days

[steel prairie]

Actually ??? I might try that

[south spindle]

no one can adjust to new dpi instantly

[steel prairie]

I hardly ever adjusted mouse sensitivity

[next wigeon]

Light the PC nerdge

[steel prairie]

So I will try that

[south spindle]

🥀

[crisp bolt]

[south spindle]

I built 7 in the past year

rookie numbers

🥀

[lofty stag]

Btw what dpi do you use normally

Like not game specific

[brisk surge]

why do you need 7

[south spindle]

Im kind of a freak on 3200

[next wigeon]

I was about to joke about that but you actually build PCs

[south spindle]

only 3 are mine dw

[steel prairie]

Jesus lol

[lofty stag]

I thought my 1800 was bad

[brisk surge]

3 in a year

you are weirdge

[south spindle]

but then i use 0.125 dpi on FPS games

so 3200x0.125 = 400

back to normal

[lofty stag]

Haven’t played fps in a while

[south spindle]

nah only 1 pc is used often

[lofty stag]

No good ones

[south spindle]

the other two were just projects

[next wigeon]

Theacc is one lucky guy living next to you for that PC building plug

[south spindle]

ill sell them for profit later

ill delete this rq

but ever see anything like this

[next wigeon]

Ya

[lofty stag]

Is that mini atx

[south spindle]

mini itx

[lofty stag]

Damn

Holy airflow

[south spindle]

airflow isn't necessary

also liquid cooling

[lofty stag]

Fair

[south spindle]

im running 13th gen Intel in here

[lofty stag]

Aren’t those like furnaces

[south spindle]

yes

this was the result of a month of minmaxing space

this computer physically cant fit anything more in it

[lofty stag]

Damn

[south spindle]

10 litres

fits in my school bag

[lofty stag]

Could not be a pc sweat

[south spindle]

(average midtower case is 40 litres)

built itx people

[lofty stag]

No thanks

I’d rather be normal

[next wigeon]

Anyhow about the team ealier, make a Planner on Krooster (website) so you know who to focus on rather than spread out your resources

[brisk surge]

pc stategies

🤫

[south spindle]

bro i need 500 fps on pc client

[lofty stag]

The hardest part of building a pc is the part finding

[south spindle]

i will mod my game to have above 500 aspd cap

trust me

[lofty stag]

wtf hax

[south spindle]

if you're building normally this is not an issue minus GPUs if you are scared to buy used

[lofty stag]

Ehh I’m not in the midst of pc building rn

No point cuz I’m barely at my home

[south spindle]

ah 🚬

[lofty stag]

My zephyrus g14 is my best friend rn

[next wigeon]

Sad life fr

[south spindle]

solid

[next wigeon]

[south spindle]

most laptops go to hell

that one goes to less hell

[lofty stag]

There like 6 other people in my Eng class with zephyruses

One guy has a strix even

How he carries that is beyond me

[south spindle]

[next wigeon]

Space Pocket like Doraemon

[lofty stag]

Shieeet maybe

I legit leave my own laptop in me dorm cuz heavy

Only take my iPad

Also ass battery life

[sterile delta]

i use a rog x13 flow and its really nice

[south spindle]

strix user detected

wait thats not strix

[lofty stag]

Flow

[sterile delta]

powerful enough for at least standard settings on most games and 1.3 kg

[lofty stag]

13 inch can’t be that bulky

[sterile delta]

i set it to automatically disable the gpu when unplugged so it has about a 8-9 hr battery life too

[steel prairie]

K

[south spindle]

i feel like we should stop yapping here but if you wanna see schizo see vc chat
#668529261090439188

💯

[sterile delta]

13 inches is a lot buddy

[full terrace]

Is that you? #off-topic message that gotta be you 😏

[lofty stag]

Sybau arf 🥹

[south spindle]

[haughty flower]

Maybe for you.

[versed arrow]

just face up duh. Off to sleep now. funfact you can even put 2 st medic like silence on that spot face up and they dont get hit

[limber fox]

Yes there is, very few ops can heal him, and its quite unnaccesible for beginners, id say

Shu's gardens can

Sailechs Flag can

Thats the ones i know

[steel prairie]

Bro is saying face up when Silence can't even reach the very top without a drone

[next wigeon]

Perfurmer Erasure

[versed arrow]

Someone tell him if silence can how heal that spot(red arrow) or not? made me stay up for another 5 mins. You guys deal with his trolling.

[brisk surge]

i thought you went to bed

[limber fox]

Oh truu, perfumer, forgor
Now erasure ive never heard abt

[steel prairie]

You said left blue box not the right one

[steel prairie]

Also you forgot the pillar

Two pillars infact

Good job... for the one that keeps accusing me of bad placement

[next wigeon]

I helped him already

[steel prairie]

You made Silence died so hard that she got hit by 2 pillars

And dodged topic when you first said the left blue box.... not the right

[steel prairie]

Your the troller now

[brisk surge]

peak cinema

[somber shuttle]

wrong gif

[brisk surge]

TRUE

[somber shuttle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/853916916040597510/1369200535865135124/isthisragebait.gif

why is this mf next to each other

🥹 i js backtracked, what the fuck was that

[brisk surge]

yeah

[somber shuttle]

getting mad at people trying to help

[brisk surge]

i hate myself for looking at this chat

[limber fox]

Oh its happening again, isnt it

[brisk surge]

its incredible

[limber fox]

Last time was a whole night show

[brisk surge]

guess how i feel every time i want to chat with my friends here

and i see that guy

🚬

[limber fox]

Dw chatter

Theres others here to share the pain

[brisk surge]

took yall long enough

[next wigeon]

Tbh I had much worse

[steel prairie]

Bruh @versed arrow forgot that Silence heals only 3 lanes wide

[brisk surge]

🚬

[full terrace]

I gave up trying to help this guy awhile ago, for my own inner peace. There are 2 types of people I cant stand, first is the ones who think they are better than others and always trying to lecture people without being asked, second is the ones who complain at everything, and dude is basically the embodiment of the latter. Since he started his Arknights journey, I have been seeing complain after complain, from the whatever QoL button to bosses having 2 Phases to Frost Nova to Patriot to Talulah to Mandragora, basically everything. It's one thing if he accepts inputs tho, he literally just rejects everything.

[brisk surge]

🥹 thats so true....

i love helping people that wants to try and learn and when they clear its like

[full terrace]

Yeah I'm not going to engage from this point onward, it's ragebait like cocunt just said, not worth my time.

[steel prairie]

Bruh really ? You guys are the one who often says go FAFO and obviously will be surprised... if you guys told me what's gonna happen then there is obviously nothing to complain about...but you guys have to say FAFO.... that's YOUR problem

[brisk surge]

but when they complain about eveything its like

[south spindle]

and we told you the solution to that is just search up each stage

[full terrace]

I dont care what you do, just dont ping me for that, thank you very much

[south spindle]

[somber shuttle]

feels like lancer and mi china incarnate

🚬

honestly js ignore the guy

[brisk surge]

🚬

[elder flume]

Why are store bought earphones so shit here

2 months in and already dead

[wicked minnow]

you got the shit quality chineese ones

[brisk surge]

why are you buying no brand earphones

🥀

[wicked minnow]

the good quality chineese ones are where it's at

[somber shuttle]

buy on brand earphones smh

like jbl

[steel prairie]

You guys first told me to FAFO first.... and the solution was not all in one place...

[brisk surge]

omg so true

im such a moondrop shill

[elder flume]

Yeah i liked JBL
They dont sell it anymore for some reason

[next wigeon]

Planned Obsolescence exists ya

[wicked minnow]

honestly tho AKG wired earbuds were good too

idk if they still make them same quality tho

[south spindle]

I was the one who brought up FAFO yes I know, and other people recommended searching up stages
you will get alot of opinions nothings subjective we're not some collective

[full terrace]

Some chinese products are premium quality nowadays tho 😏

[brisk surge]

i love premium chinese products

[south spindle]

me when i find the right chinese machinist and he uses proper grade 5 ti

[brisk surge]

whar

[south spindle]

my bad

[brisk surge]

so nerdge

[south spindle]

more like so scammed before

🥀

[brisk surge]

[haughty flower]

Why the fuck do you need gr5 ti.
Save shit like structural parts, combat robotics or other high-stress applications gr2 is perfectly fine.

[still vessel]

I love my Sony headphones although they are pricy

[somber shuttle]

Sony headphones are always great

[still vessel]

My last one lasted 4 years before the audio started deteriorating

[south spindle]

-# balisong

[haughty flower]

High-stress applications, you exert a fair bit of force on a bali especially if you actually stab something with it.

The human body is actually a...little annoying to cut with most knives.

I, uh, haha.

[south spindle]

more like dropping on concrete often

[haughty flower]

That too. Knives need to be able to resist drops.

[maiden hound]

i heard xm5 sound is doodoo

[still vessel]

Not all Sony headphones honestly

[haughty flower]

Either way in this case gr5 makes sense, gr2 gets folded like a pretzel

[still vessel]

You gotta get pricy for them to get good

[south spindle]

its not even about the scuffing its about being able to hold its tolerances (very tight for high end balis)

[brisk surge]

tight

[still vessel]

There are a few good ones for less than $200 but most quality ones go for above

[south spindle]

Remember if you just don't know what better feels like, you will be fine with your $100 headphones

[haughty flower]

I mean at high end you're getting gr5 ti regardless, good sounding material name for ads, good strength-weight ratio, and doesn't permanently deform or snap as easily as alu.

[maiden hound]

gaming headphones

[haughty flower]

Price is the biggest limiting factor of gr5 because shit ain't cheap and it also sucks to machine.

[south spindle]

yeah no alu balis are common they dont snap or anything just less durable ye

[still vessel]

Anything remotely related to the word gaming is already trash quality

[south spindle]

what don't like the fact that ti particles like to explode?

[haughty flower]

Pretending like the x3d CPUs are trash 💔

Bro has never looked in the right places.

[still vessel]

I’m talking about peripherals

[brisk surge]

why is the chat talking about tech and metal parts at the same time

[still vessel]

I want a 9800x3d ngl but it’s not msrp

[still vessel]

Cause we’re nerds

You are too

[brisk surge]

you are

[still vessel]

[south spindle]

max is nerd

[still vessel]

Nerdiest of em all

[brisk surge]

i dont wear glasses so im at most half a nerd

[still vessel]

[somber shuttle]

[maiden hound]

i love dds

[brisk surge]

how do people play this game with a 25 dp cost wis

[south spindle]

@haughty flower #668529261090439188 message (Image)

[cosmic quest]

HOW DID THIS CLEAR? IS IT THE POWER OF TWO ROACHES?

was on the map with the suicide buff tile in the middle, had both sniper buff relics (but lv 1), and only 5 snipers at the end

I guess at least I got lucky and killed kjerag early, and got bob as the second boss...

[elder flume]

Modless Mud

[limber fox]

to this day i still dont know how the math of a 787 attack roach can make 9900 damage pop ups

[cosmic quest]

2(two) modless mud. has lancers coming in, so I wanted someone who could tank the initial hit

[elder flume]

Always fun to see people forgetting to equip their ops with mods

[limber fox]

always fun to find out that ur mod suddenly unequiped after god knows why reason

[full terrace]

Wisadel dph is not that high

Its only like 6k-ish iirc

What makes it high is that

She does multiple things with her kit at once

[gentle harbor]

14 hours of thinking

[full terrace]

Iirc her main hit, then explosion, then 2 shockwaves

That sums up to like 18k per shot (S3)

[cobalt gale]

how does iss yumen market cloud stepper work? been seeing some guide using Narantuya as core dpd

[tiny vale]

dalao should i get a pair of ath m30x and be done with it

[full terrace]

x6 ammo = 108k-ish total damage

[somber shuttle]

why is it so long wtf

[limber fox]

and what about M3?

[full terrace]

Thats M3

[limber fox]

oh

[gentle harbor]

My brain is braining

[limber fox]

he went to sleep lmao

[cobalt gale]

when the chess isnt auto ing

[full terrace]

Thats Wisadel

6.7k dph only

Iirc I read someone said Ray does like 10k-ish per shot? Thats much higher

[gentle harbor]

Is that good in this protocol?

[somber shuttle]

Lemuen is also much higher

main selling point for Wis is AoE

[full terrace]

She is good in general because of her kit

But not in cc because enemies have bazillion defense

[gentle harbor]

Also ray only take enemy one at the time

[full terrace]

And Wisadel meets high defense = tickling

Coz her dph is not that high

[somber shuttle]

Flingering it

[limber fox]

yeah, idk why when i was playing annis, the damage pop up showed 9kish

[gentle harbor]

Maybe enemy got more defense?

[limber fox]

god dont remind me of the Rip0.5 guy
the skill issue was so high it was just sad

[limber fox]

uhh i mean, shouldnt the pop up be 6kish? or thats not how it woorks?...

[full terrace]

So to answer your question, refer to this #strategy message you can see she does:
6.7k dph + 2x 3.3k shockwave (Moduled) + 4.5k explosion

Which is around 18k per shot

And 18k x 6 ammo = 108k total damage

[limber fox]

ic ic

[full terrace]

AoE and her survivability yeah

[elder flume]

Now add 2x upgraded T4 Strong Tea

[full terrace]

Barely any Snipers can survive like she does

Actually not only Snipers

[limber fox]

now, may i ask, how does the damage pop ups work? does it take only the biggest damage, or it sums everything up and shows?-

[limber fox]

barely any unit--

[elder flume]

If your scale goes to 1.5x red numbers show up

[full terrace]

Visually I can see the main hit plus the explosion, shockwaves I couldnt see it probably because it's RNG. Shockwaves are 100% RNG that even the seeds are not saved in auto.

You should watch DragonGJY explanation, its pretty damn good

[elder flume]

0 of 1.5x is 0 so 0 red number can show up

[full terrace]

He also explains how the Revenant Shadows spawn

And if you memorize that, your journey in gamemode like IS would be much much smoother

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HD5btysiC7A

[full terrace]

It's the main reason why Wisadel breaks your Auto btw

[somber falcon]

how does ray gets to 10k
isn't she doing like 6/7k?

[elder flume]

I cant confirm nor deny explosion seeds

Since HG keeps updating it

[full terrace]

Ye you are right #help message

I dont know why I remember 10k either, pretty sure I saw someone said that

[elder flume]

GG was said to be rng but years later people said seeded

Either misinformation parroting or unknown external effect

[brisk surge]

schwarz mod x playing sniper squad with lemon sounds kinda fun

[still vessel]

I want my apple pie to delete every boss

[limber fox]

lmaoooo i didnt knew that happened

[somber falcon]

non wis user

[full terrace]

It has something to do with the order the enemies die because Shockwave proc from the last one first. If the last one dies first, according to that video, the Shockwave doesnt proc on the next one. I cant say for the future but currently this seems to be true

This is why I always do Ela-Wis for stability on some farm stages even tho Wis can solo

The most annoying one was during Dolly

[brisk surge]

dolly

[gentle harbor]

It can be, and wisadel have aoe and more tile than ray

[full terrace]

Her shots are so unstable that I had to use Ela's bombs for consistency

Otherwise she just breaks my auto

[brisk surge]

unironically ejyaberry event harder than this one

🚬

[limber fox]

i use Wis
i just do not depend on her like many do
shes not even maxed out, my max units are Degenbrecher and Ray only

[somber falcon]

simply

[limber fox]

the mf sheeps? dont remind me of that wizard

[brisk surge]

no i use cheeto

🚬

[somber falcon]

[still vessel]

When does story get hard again?

[brisk surge]

i also feel that mechanics in that event is so much harder

than this

[brisk surge]

when i take wisadel off my support units

[still vessel]

I’ve been doing all my story no sup

[limber fox]

chap 7-8 then chapt 12-13 r the hardest

[brisk surge]

so pro

[still vessel]

I only use your Wis for IS cause fuck IS

[brisk surge]

i think later chapters are fairly hard

because EN cant read

🚬

[limber fox]

wish there was such thing as Support statistics
to see how many times my units have been borrowed

[brisk surge]

Hi ia

[rapid junco]

Who need read when moduled virt

[gentle harbor]

Is just your wise on your operator

[brisk surge]

say hi back you uma musume lover

[limber fox]

what

[full terrace]

You dont have Wis of your own?

Also hi ia

[rapid junco]

How I supposed to know it, you not give me a hint

[brisk surge]

no hes borrowing my wis

[gentle harbor]

Every acocunt have different operators so use wisely

[brisk surge]

wdym i said HI

[rapid junco]

[gentle harbor]

Tf is happening

[brisk surge]

ia being mean to me

[still vessel]

Should I skip to ch9 for resource stages or keep going from ch6

[gentle harbor]

Uma musume is good (only in japan)

[brisk surge]

if you need resources then go for the optimal/faster way to get to the stage

[still vessel]

Ok

[somber falcon]

aren't your ops rather old
only one might be needing newer mats is only lapp

[limber fox]

will we ever be able to get the Cat Operator or the Nine colored deer again

[rapid junco]

https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=fUyxH_MoFug&si=Lj8di5x83DXA30Rq

[still vessel]

indeed my only new op is lappalt the rest are SA, mlynar, and reg lapp for 6 stars

[gentle harbor]

Is not available

[still vessel]

I dont need the resource but i think itd be nice to just have em ready

[brisk surge]

IT DOESNT LOAD

[somber falcon]

yeah I'd say just progress normally
better way to get good as well

[brisk surge]

[rapid junco]

Wtf

[still vessel]

since i dont need it immediately ill go with your advice then

[brisk surge]

nope rush to ch12 to get good

[rapid junco]

灰の Memoire

Search it

[still vessel]

bros trying to rush me to slave knight gael before i even finish base game

[brisk surge]

its not as good as the bakkyun song

[gentle harbor]

Imagine gamble horse and gacha game meet and born uma musume

[gentle harbor]

Is in YouTube or what?

[elder flume]

Wouldnt it be a matter of trust point altering seed distribution tho
Theres not enough context for me to sieve

[smoky blaze]

wow. Is it corn?

[full terrace]

My Wis had a max trust when I farmed Dolly. It's not RNG like you imagine it to be in the case like Goldenglow. It's more of her shooting positioning. You see when Wis is about to shoot, she chooses one target as her main target, and this target will be the center of her explosion+shockwaves. Based on how she chooses her main target, the explosion range will change, and so the order of enemies death will change and this highly affect how the shockwaves proc (again, DragonGJY video explained this). Easiest way to emulate this is to take your own Wisadel to CA-5, you'll see what I mean

I mean use Wisadel on CA-5 to make auto, and then run like 5~6 autoes

[elder flume]

No not Wis trust

Everyone in the squad trust

I cant watch the vid yet cuz im outside

[south spindle]

blud, $40 IEMs off amazon tech

[elder flume]

But will see later

Unless your CA or Dolly runs involved no other ops than Wis in squad since thats when trust cant affect seed

But 1 op auto over 12

[full terrace]

You can try making an auto with a lineup of ops with constant Trust, but I'm 95% certain the auto will still break in CA-5, because in CA-5 there are a lot of drones there and Wisadel's main target got switched around

[elder flume]

Then that would be search cycle shift

[full terrace]

That included, but thats not the only reason

Dolly is actually the best example for the shockwaves but there is no way you are wasting Sanity auto-ing Dolly

I had to use Ela's bombs for stability

Iirc because Wis shoots the etc stuff near Dolly and he eats the explosion/shockwaves

So sometimes he lives sometimes he dies

[modern kelp]

What are good support default operators to borrow for stronghold?

[elder flume]

uhh everyone?

since theyre default and you cant change them to anything else

[still vessel]

you can only borrow direct replacements

[elder flume]

other than reserve ops

and only worthwhile reserve ops are Touch Mechanist for most of the time

Pith Misery to some extend

[still vessel]

id recommend ulpi and specter so you can run ah comp

andreana is also pretty good borrow

can also do ntr knight, reedic, gg but they kinda subpar for stronghold

[brisk surge]

Gg is fine

Getting her is the hard part

[still vessel]

thats why subpar just borrow ulpi and andreana and use free gladi for ah comp

[brisk surge]

Or

Or

I'm going to bed

[still vessel]

isnt it like morning

for you

[brisk surge]

11

[still vessel]

another all nighter

[modern kelp]

Will do. And is there a link where I can read about the different comps/strats? Just starting the mode for the first time, don’t know what the “ah” comp is 🙂

[brisk surge]

Help chat taking my time

[rapid junco]

Yes, on yt

[still vessel]

ummm theres a lot of strategys in this chat actually

[modern kelp]

Checked pins, didn’t see anything. Maybe I missed it, will check again / scroll around.

[brisk surge]

Ia say gn

[elder flume]

its in #help pins

[still vessel]

i believe rainchan and arf made a few as well as some others

[modern kelp]

Ah okay, will go check it out, thanks all!

[brisk surge]

Alright bed time

Gn fellow strategy chatters

[still vessel]

gn max

[elder flume]

gnite

[rapid junco]

https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=pNsObObDINk&si=HSDVu3BFrGEbFFzN

Inner art lullaby

[cunning badge]

how do i keep the civilians alive in h8-4.

[rapid junco]

Tanking the fire balls

And be ready with 3 burn bait

[modern kelp]

What's the point of DP/vanguards in protocol?

[full terrace]

Here #strategy message

[limpid ore]

you can also use logos s3 to delete the fireball

[full terrace]

There, use it as reference #strategy message

[limpid ore]

when operator died, they still need DP to redeploy

[still vessel]

dp for frd other than that no point

[modern kelp]

Got it, thanks.

[limpid ore]

there is wacky strats with amiya as commander, to send your guard and specialist up close to enemies face

with the item that reduce operator redeployment time, which has double the effect on guard and specialist

[cunning badge]

wow. so you really are supposed to block all lane 💀

[full terrace]

You really are supposed to block 4 lanes yes

#strategy message

[rapid junco]

2 if using logos🤫

[cunning badge]

oh okay. i see.

[still vessel]

do i e2 ptilo or silence

[rapid junco]

Ptilo
You don't e2 silence

[still vessel]

ok

[vocal plinth]

How do you do the unlimited funds thingy with Karlan in stronghold?

Nvm I found it

[elder flume]

Why is it getting popularity

[vocal plinth]

Im trying everything just to beat core protocol

[pure orchid]

Its a bit wordy with extra details but yeah its pretty much the same

[pearl breach]

Video isnt available.
Got scammed by IA

[fiery marsh]

Mylnar AH is the way bro

[pure orchid]

Its more dependent on getting a good carry than any particular equipment

[pure orchid]

I know nothing, I am nothing

ori knows jp

fib maybe?

[pure orchid]

yeah i was asleep

[willow sun]

yeah the runs have to be flexible

i think i actually completed a run with none of my carries

it just ended up being AH slop lol

all non-elite as well

[vocal plinth]

I got ptsd when they just steamrolled my defense while having 2 mlynars with the attack speed equipment

I’ll try that though

[elder flume]

To go through 5 previous strats and reaching mine is something

[sly drift]

It's been 3 weeks.. I'm curious what is Exualt S2 and S3 total damage?

[vocal plinth]

Wait this is done with Logos as the initiator right or did I got it wrong

[elder flume]

Yes Logos commander

[vocal plinth]

Btw when you say unique ops, the ones you don’t have a dupe of yet?

[full terrace]

S2 - 2982 dph, 147k total damage
S3 - 1996 dph x 5 hits, 143k total damage

...on paper, assuming 0 def

[sly drift]

Oh wow.. that's literally just another Ela isn't it? What's her number again?

[vocal plinth]

I’ll have to get that first in foundation xd

[full terrace]

Slightly better than Ela minus the Mines

Ela is uh.. 2.5k I think?

Exu S2 is 3k so 500 higher for dph

[sly drift]

With around 140k total damage too + mines right?

[full terrace]

Yeh

I think devs just wanna let those Ela skippers have her outside the collab event 🤣

[sly drift]

Exactly 139433 total damage S3 Ela.

I think Exualt S2 has highest ceiling damage on the game as for now

And fking 3k dph

[full terrace]

For those who want Ela's dps can use Exu S2, she should be better, but honestly I'm using Ela mainly for her Mines

When I wanna burst tough boss or elite

I still use Wis or Logos, plus her Mines for Fragility

[elder flume]

Ye new ops without dupes

[sly drift]

Oh wait.. it's actually lappland

But under very ideal scenario. And zero res

[scarlet fulcrum]

Ah yea ceobe under ideal scenario

[full terrace]

Ceobe has no ceiling in IS 😂😂

[sly drift]

The ceiling is the enemy def

[full terrace]

Actually ops like Mlynar that can benefit from aspd buff also have pretty high damage ceiling

[sly drift]

What's Mlynar with mod 3 number again?

[full terrace]

4725 dph (+315 True Damage) x 24 hits

120k total damage

[sly drift]

After module I genuinely think Mlynar is the best operator in the game, surpass Wisadel. Mainly because he benefits from attackspeed and true damage.

[desert prairie]

whats the def and res?

[full terrace]

I think so too yeah

But in practice, on gamemode like IS Wisadel kit is still used more

[sly drift]

Well yea.. She can attack offskill, slow, being invisible and shit.

[scarlet fulcrum]

Both still suffer on CC ironically

[sly drift]

Only doggo not.

[scarlet fulcrum]

[sly drift]

Elemental damage will also suffer on CC once they add elemental resistance risks

[full terrace]

Physical dps do nothing in cc yeah

Btw Lemuen S3 is 7789 dph with 115% damage scale on 7 ammo. Around 63k total damage

But it's boom boom boom boom like Degen

[sly drift]

Lemuen S2 issue is that it's too slow.

I can tell ppl will use Ray more in CC even after lemuen here. Much shorter cooldown too.

[pure orchid]

3 MATTERHORN BAZONGA !!?!?

Its a good thing i learned how to freeze now

[elder flume]

I started freezing day 5

It still doesnt look enticing until i do Dober or Ho tbh

Or next round Logos Whislash infinite

[full terrace]

Yah unfortunately that S2 is slow

I think Lemuen will be used more in instances where dodge ignore is needed

More Pozy powercreep rather than Ray

[pure orchid]

Round 6 with 2 6-star

How broken

[full terrace]

Hypergryph be reworking IS2 right after Lemuen is released, their intention is too obvious

Making Lemuen meta for Lucian

[hazy sinew]

lucian like from league of legends

[valid kindle]

how to win core protocol w/ doberman strategy, but 2nd reward doesn't have the t2 merge upgrade in it?

[full terrace]

Lucian Phantom

[hazy sinew]

ya

[full terrace]

IS2 Ending 1

[hazy sinew]

ya

[desert prairie]

give up and go for sharp?

[pearl breach]

@full terrace do you have a solid strat for stalemate?

[pure orchid]

Oh now that is a good question

All these strats to win but none to stall

[pearl breach]

anything beside adreana s2 please.

[full terrace]

Rain showed a chinese video that stalled until Round 1140 or something

Basically using bunch of Horns to kill kazi enemies but leaving the drone pass

Lemme dig it up