strategy

[elder flume]

Beatoldrecordknights

[scarlet mortar]

that's just nicheknights

cluel

[civic bear]

as in 3 ops using the op that existed back then

and no module cuz it didnt exist too

i think

or maybe it existed but before mod upgrades

could always do better cuz limit are imaginations

[candid grove]

yeah, im just worried about whether swire would be on the chopping block if the strat was improved

[civic bear]

its fine anyway

[scarlet mortar]

5* cats definitely isn't meeting the general 5* record anw

[civic bear]

she got used

and she did her job

optimization is entirely diff thing

[candid grove]

that's certainly better than no swire

[civic bear]

cuz if we doing optimization the strat is going to be very different

[candid grove]

the core of my issues with her is that i just want any reason to use her without banning nearly every other op in the game without feeling like im actively shooting myself in the foot

[civic bear]

its gnna be frd stall

with slower

😂

[candid grove]

with 5* cats?

[civic bear]

ye

[elder flume]

Just have the want

[civic bear]

kazemaru

waifu

and then spam body

till patriot dies

[candid grove]

oh, right

i forgot about kazemaru

[elder flume]

Emotions transcends logic most of the time
Its why people do nicheknights

[civic bear]

cliffheart stuns from afar

you just interrupt the hell of pat phase 1

and bro is stuck in 1 tile

[steel prairie]

why is 6-7 so much easier than 6-4 ???

[glass monolith]

Want to play without 6*s.
Want to build ammo based Laterano clownfest (3 6*s)
HELP

[steel prairie]

I mean 6-5

[scarlet mortar]

bc lol lmao

game has diffspikes

[candid grove]

yeah, i just dont like feeling like im intentionally gimping myself

[elder flume]

When H12-4 still deemed as hardest by most

[candid grove]

using a niche means limiting the variety of ops i can use

[civic bear]

hardest stage by tryhard is quite diff to hardest stage by most peeps

most ppl feel h134 is harder

well not most

but a good chunk

[limpid ore]

that stage where shanguinarch got insta kill shenanigans

[civic bear]

but try hard would say h134 is while a technical map, cheesable that turns it p ez

doesnt help that that stage is pretty long too

longer stage is more mistake prone it gets

[steel prairie]

ok why is it NOW teaching me about frost and cold when I already faced its drone earlier ???

[candid grove]

good game design, duh

[scarlet mortar]

the drone doesn't inflict either

[steel prairie]

bruh... should have been there earlier

[scarlet mortar]

"frost" the drone is different from frost the status effect

[civic bear]

its not the drone that slows aspd

[candid grove]

oh, i thought they meant the frost bombs

i guess they havent appeared yet

[civic bear]

the tutorial is for caster first p sure

[somber falcon]

yeah
caster, dogs, and spiders

drones come a bit later

[steel prairie]

ok... why can the enemy ice mage freeze our Ops... but Lin cant freeze them ??? what is this heresy ???

[candid grove]

she uses glass, not ice

[steel prairie]

wait tf ??? those are glass ???

her shield is made of GLASS ???

[glass monolith]

Her family controls sand or something and glass is melted sand

[candid grove]

well, her skills call it crystal

but yeah, it's glass

glass is pretty pointy

[steel prairie]

ok Chen is right... she is a dumb rat

I guess you can say: Lin is indeed a GLASS CANNON btsmmm HAHAHAHA

[candid grove]

it's kinda funny that she's one of the tankier ops despite glass not exactly being known for its durability though

[steel prairie]

ehhh if her shield gets penetrated she explodes

[civic bear]

wdym

tempered glass

glass p strong these days

[steel prairie]

idt she is using those plexi bulletproof glass

[scarlet mortar]

"glass cannon" except she does little damage and tanks quite a few absurd things

[candid grove]

yeah, but that's not just glass, right?

[scarlet mortar]

also cough borosilicate

[civic bear]

glass never been "just" glass

[steel prairie]

really ??? for me she hits like a truck but cant take hits herself... atleast from my POV

[civic bear]

glass always been mix of shit

[steel prairie]

ok... but why not concrete ??? thats WAY BETTER

[scarlet mortar]

if we're talking gameplay, lin does Not "hit like a truck"

[candid grove]

huh, neat

[steel prairie]

I want to see Lin yeet a block of concrete at the enemy

[steel prairie]

well atleast for my team she hits like a truck

[candid grove]

i was thinking more of stuff like bulletproof glass that's made without sand at all afaik

[scarlet mortar]

you said you used wis'adel

[steel prairie]

a lot of time its just me trying to get get enough DP just get deploy her in order to kill smth

[scarlet mortar]

that's what it means to hit like a truck

[candid grove]

she hits pretty hard in my experience

[steel prairie]

I dont always use her... just finished 6-7 with ease

[candid grove]

maybe not "like a truck" hard, but she can take out elites just fine

especially with a few fodder enemies to boost her damage

[civic bear]

you're thinking of glass as in related to purely sand (silica)

[steel prairie]

atleast for my squad she "hits like a truck" maybe not yours... but definetly for my team

[candid grove]

she made taking out the supply drones in the last event a lot easier

[scarlet mortar]

no my standards are just generally higher

[civic bear]

but glass is more like state of matter

[steel prairie]

but seriously why glass ??? her family could have used sand to make concrete... which makes more money and is better overall

[scarlet mortar]

if you're talking "hits like a truck" ops you'd look at ray or wis or sth

[rich plover]

Might need help

[steel prairie]

uhhh did FrostNova ruined your map ???

[civic bear]

glass is more profitable

easily

[candid grove]

yeah but glass is cooler

[steel prairie]

no nowdays is concrete

and I have sauce but it might be off topic

just gonna dm you privetly if you want the source that concrete is more profitable

[civic bear]

concrete has low margin no

it just has more demand

[steel prairie]

no... its because it usese sand.. but a "special" sand

not your typical one

[candid grove]

well one has lin using it and the other doesnt

so im pretty sure glass is better here

[civic bear]

well idk if special sand counts here

cuz we wouldnt know what type they got

[rich plover]

What's the final boss gimmick for IS4

[candid grove]

as in getting to them?

[steel prairie]

uhh idk Im new

lets answer Dr finn question first

[scarlet mortar]

ed1?

[rich plover]

Yea first ending

[candid grove]

he teleports around

there's a tower you use to make him attackable

[scarlet mortar]

all those tiles that look covered are blocked, you need to destroy the roots to free them

[steel prairie]

wtf late game enemy can teleport ???

[candid grove]

oh wait, that's ED2 i think

wrong one

[rich plover]

I'm fighting the big ass boss

[scarlet mortar]

"lategame" i mean. wait a couple chapters ig

[candid grove]

ED1 is Big Sad Lock but with lots of ground ice to break

[steel prairie]

what ??? why cant my unit destroy FrostNova spikes then ???

[candid grove]

crownslayer can teleport

[glass monolith]

Big Sad piece of shit is ED2

[candid grove]

breaking her stuff would be rude

[elder flume]

Minecraft lied??

[scarlet mortar]

this game has a million mechanics lol

[limpid ore]

because different boss mechanic

uh

[scarlet mortar]

don't bother comparing them

[steel prairie]

oh... so I guess crownslayer got the unfortunate "playable boss" treatment

[limpid ore]

[scarlet mortar]

"playable boss"

wis'adel

[limpid ore]

degen was boss

[candid grove]

please remember to pay your crownslayer

[scarlet mortar]

degenbrecher

[steel prairie]

oh wait she was a antagonist ???

[scarlet mortar]

even if you look lower there's dorothy

fuck tonna bosses who're decent as playable ops

[limpid ore]

not all boss is evil

pompeii

[steel prairie]

yeah thats why I said antagonist not villain

[scarlet mortar]

crownslayer just got fucked bc it'd be funny or sth

[candid grove]

yes

[steel prairie]

or anti-hero

[elder flume]

Not all tiles

[candid grove]

it's my greatest regret

[steel prairie]

thats basically what happend to me in chapter 3 and everyone tells me to "just deploy behind her"

[rich plover]

Plausible with these artifacts?

[steel prairie]

wat ??? a TD game that allows you to use items ??? IMPOSSIBLE

[scarlet mortar]

you're playing diff 0, your ops matter more

[candid grove]

it's the roguelike mode

[scarlet mortar]

myon you literally have not seen how many mechanics this game can throw at you

chill lol

[steel prairie]

I was being sarcastic lol... but then again I would say Arknights is more than just a "TD" game compare to PvZ or BTD

[elder flume]

Its a music game so true

[scarlet mortar]

what "tower defense"

[steel prairie]

like with this many mechanics its way more harder and complicated than PvZ and BTD

[scarlet mortar]

it's a tower offense game if you know what you're doing

[steel prairie]

and yet people are telling me its easier than PvZ or BTD ???

[candid grove]

the only tower is me when i look at british cats

[rich plover]

That is true, I should be able to do it if I'm smart about it

[scarlet mortar]

and that's when it's trying not to cosplay as 10 other genres

[candid grove]

it's pretty easy once you get a few e2 6* nuke ops

[rich plover]

Gambling genre

[steel prairie]

yeah but I dont have them...

[rich plover]

Not just the gacha aspect

[candid grove]

yeah, you'll get them eventually though

it's just a matter of time

[rich plover]

A month or two should be fine

[steel prairie]

whats next ?? open world tower defense for Arknights ???

[elder flume]

Does RA count

[candid grove]

isnt that the sequel or something?

ive never really cared about it so im not really sure

[steel prairie]

RA ???

[candid grove]

reclamation algorithm

[steel prairie]

oh

[candid grove]

the one where you farm rice and lumber for 200 days

[scarlet mortar]

curse of RA

[elder flume]

Arknights Endfield would fit better yea

Dont quite like the game tho

[rich plover]

I played RA for a bit and then proceed to ignore it

Too much of a hassle to juggle between ops and resources

[candid grove]

i was pretty fond of RA1

i like RA2 enough but i cant really interact with the base building at all since the cost to craft anything is so prohibitively high

[steel prairie]

AYO ??? WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEZE

[candid grove]

i do wish it wasnt prone to crashing somewhat regularly though

holy shit, it's swire

[rapid junco]

[candid grove]

for the record, im pretty sure this is more of a help channel than a liveposting channel

[rich plover]

Yea, we need help for levels

[candid grove]

use swire

im pretty sure that'll help

[rich plover]

But yea, for the Sam final boss, just make sure to have enough heals?

[candid grove]

yeah, more or less

having someone that can clear the ice decently well is pretty nice too

[rich plover]

Narantuya should do yea?

[candid grove]

yeah, probably

[steel prairie]

ok... can someone tell me how many types of kamikaze spiders are there ???

[candid grove]

getting to the boss with reed alter is always pretty fun

[candid grove]

2 i think?

in the main story anyways

not including stronger variants

lappland stops them from exploding, for the record

[narrow pendant]

3 in main story
More in general

[candid grove]

was it 3?

it's just exploding and ice spiders, right?

plus the stronger exploding spider, if that's what you mean

[narrow pendant]

Ch14 originium spiders

[candid grove]

oh, right

[narrow pendant]

Then we have jessica event spiders

Fia event boom bots

[steel prairie]

WTF ??? how come a shy girl summon spiders ???

[narrow pendant]

Current event ones

Even tho they explode only when blocked not killed

[narrow pendant]

Who said anything about her summoning

[candid grove]

they're technically not spiders

[steel prairie]

Jessica is a Aussie confirmed ???

[narrow pendant]

Wtf are u yapping now

[candid grove]

no, she's clearly american

she deals with spiders by shooting them

[narrow pendant]

Yea but they do go boom

and are stronger than the normal spiders

[steel prairie]

ok who are "icecleavers" and whats best to counter them ???

[candid grove]

there's a whole lot of enemies if you broaden it to non-arachnid things too

[candid grove]

dont freeze

[narrow pendant]

They do basicaly nothing if they arent attacking a frozen target

[steel prairie]

is there any ops thats like resistent to freezing ???

[narrow pendant]

technicaly yes

Realisticaly no

[candid grove]

blaze should have status resistance after she sits still for a while, but i wouldnt recommend her

[narrow pendant]

Well, theres one, but hes pretty shit

[candid grove]

i could have sworn there's at least 1 defender with status resistance

[steel prairie]

who is it tho ?

[narrow pendant]

Lessing, hes immune to status effects during s3

But hes pretty bad

[steel prairie]

also is there any fire type Ops that can melt ??? or there is no melting ingame ???

[candid grove]

just use a strong defender and medic if you have to tank them

therapist medics have ways to give ops status resistance

it halves the length of freeze

[steel prairie]

I just realized is there no Ops that uses a flamethrower or smth ??? no fire type Ops ??? no melting ?

[narrow pendant]

No

[candid grove]

there's a lot of fire ops

ifrit uses a flamethrower

[steel prairie]

ik Surtr has a fire sword

but thats a sword

[steel prairie]

?

oh

no slow down effects ???

[candid grove]

you can literally see the fuel tanks on her back

[steel prairie]

like other TD games ???

[candid grove]

for fire?

[narrow pendant]

Technicaly speaking it doesnt do that
It increases the speed at ehich the effect is up 🤓

[candid grove]

there are slow supporters like orchid

[candid grove]

damn, guess my opinion is invalid then...

[steel prairie]

yeah... most TD games fire have the effect of burning over time or slowing enemies down.. both PvZ and BTD have that

[steel prairie]

oooo I need her... TO ROAST FROSTNOVA ALIVE

[candid grove]

doesnt PvZ use ice to slow stuff down?

and BTD uses glue iirc?

[steel prairie]

fire also have effects

[candid grove]

or maybe im thinking of a different game

ifrit has a DoT on her s2

[narrow pendant]

:noway: different games dont work the samr
How insane is that

[steel prairie]

I think in BTD 4 there was a flamethower tower that slows enemy

[narrow pendant]

[candid grove]

the Burn elemental status effect doesnt have a DoT technically, but it does some damage when it activates

[steel prairie]

does Arknights have Ops that deal DoT ???

[candid grove]

lots

[steel prairie]

oh ???

oh wait Lappa has bleed right ???

atleast I call it bleed

lol

[candid grove]

you mean silence?

the status effect, not the medic

[narrow pendant]

No

[steel prairie]

oh was talking about DoT

any Ops that have a DoT effects on enemies

[candid grove]

lots

[steel prairie]

wait thats not bleed ??? (I play too many JRPG I just use those terms on any games)

[candid grove]

like thorns, blue poison, and delphine

[narrow pendant]

Aosta, ifrit, anyone with necro, bp, thorns, underflow

Asca

[candid grove]

lappland doesnt have any kind of bleed-like effects in her kit

[narrow pendant]

Ethan

[steel prairie]

oh I thought the cross markings when lappa hits someone is bleed

[narrow pendant]

Its silence

Read kit

[candid grove]

you're giving me necrosis with the fact that you remembered aosta exists

[steel prairie]

the medic ???

[candid grove]

silence turns off enemy abilities sometimes

[narrow pendant]

The effect

[candid grove]

what times?

who knows

it turns off exploding spiders though

both exploding and ice spiders

[steel prairie]

WHAT ???

[dapper hedge]

....

[steel prairie]

is that E2 skill ???

[candid grove]

no, it's her passive

although e2 makes it have 100% uptime

[steel prairie]

WTF I dont see her doing shit against explosives

[narrow pendant]

Hes in the curret sp stage

So

[candid grove]

e1 is like 80% uptime or something

[dapper hedge]

deadass just read your operator kits

[narrow pendant]

Start reading

[steel prairie]

wtf who gave me Temu Silence that doesnt defuse bombs ???

[narrow pendant]

Youre not funny

[dapper hedge]

This is also one of the reason ppl suggesting picking lappland in the *5 pick ticket

[steel prairie]

its not me reading... she doesnt do it

[candid grove]

sp stage?

[narrow pendant]

You would know why if u read

[narrow pendant]

Yea, when u do pv10 theres 3 extra special stages at the end

[candid grove]

oh, ok

[narrow pendant]

Where u protect the fireworks

[steel prairie]

most of the time is either Chen or Blaze killing the spiders fast enough before they arm

[elder flume]

E1 P1 Lapp is slightly scuffed for silencing purposes

[candid grove]

im still working on doing PV-10 so i didnt know about those yet

[steel prairie]

but I dont see Silence defusing any IED spiders

[candid grove]

simply kill the enemy while they're silenced

[candid grove]

silence alter defuses them with her friends' faces

[steel prairie]

she also has a alter ???

[candid grove]

a free one from one of the events

[narrow pendant]

Sipence the effect ffs
Not the operator

[candid grove]

you sure are easy to surprise

[steel prairie]

and I just have to miss it ???

[candid grove]

it's permanent

[narrow pendant]

Can u start thinking please

Shes also whatever

[candid grove]

it's not?

[wicked minnow]

the record restoration releases in like 8 months

[elder flume]

You have a second at E1
Many ops take more than 1s to attack including Lapp

[steel prairie]

well I was told Arknights is just a "TD" game... so I didnt expect it to be so different

[wicked minnow]

it is permanent but saying it's permanent implies that he can even get her rn

[civic bear]

its td just because its the closest thing

[candid grove]

silence alter was the free op in lone trail, wasnt she?

[civic bear]

but honestly it doesnt feel td

[steel prairie]

like this is not even close to PvZ or BTD... like this is almost a whole seperate genre

[civic bear]

i always think of it as more of realtime tile rpg

[candid grove]

simply kill them during that one second, duh

just perfectly time your team's attacks to never land off of silence

[elder flume]

Generalizing games are bad
Generalizing Arknights operators is potentially war crime

[steel prairie]

it feels more like the older games of Final Fantasy

[civic bear]

p much ye

[young jolt]

what lvl yall logos atleast to pv 10? I kept dying despite being in e2 😭

[candid grove]

oh, you have to wait for that to get the old free ops?

[steel prairie]

yeah so I wouldnt call it a TD game... just a RPG game with tiles and such

[candid grove]

ive gotten them all the first time so i didnt actually know

[candid grove]

are you dying in phase 1 or 2?

[steel prairie]

see this game is hard right ???

[narrow pendant]

If u cant think sure

[candid grove]

yeah, it's hard when you dont have top tier 6*s leveled up

[narrow pendant]

No

[candid grove]

real easy if you do

[young jolt]

p1, tho theres a chance it survives sometimes lol

[candid grove]

most of the time it's really not very hard, but there are still occasionally pretty brutal stages

[young jolt]

yea stuck in pv 10 lmao gdi

[steel prairie]

WHY IS THE ENEMY CAMPING AT OUR SPAWN AGAIN ???

[young jolt]

im mostly following ecko's guide but to no luck, im thinking it has to do with my logos's lvl

[steel prairie]

brooo I hate levels where the enemy camps in the spawn

fuk campers

[wicked minnow]

after an event's rerun happens, the welfare in that event gets their record restoration about a year later. Lone trail rerun began Nov 21, 2024. so in November of this year you can expect to get yourself silence2. the event stages in are permanent and you can access them right now. silence2 will be permanently available for free after her record restoration drops

[steel prairie]

fuk campers in EVERY GENRE GAMES

[narrow pendant]

Something something entire gane has been beaten by 4* only

[candid grove]

just because it can be done doesnt mean it's easy

[elder flume]

Payback for spawn camping in BTD

[steel prairie]

oh speaking of which which Ops are free to get permanently ???

[candid grove]

skill issue, sure, but most of us arent kyostinv

[steel prairie]

wdym we dont spawn camp in BTD

[rich plover]

I'm kinda stuck on PV 10 due to 2nd phase mostly

Mainly due to my ops dying too fast, either too near to the fireworks or Lappdumb nuking

[glass monolith]

[candid grove]

dont forget that she hits two different targets

[hot orchid]

Whats the easiest Way to beat Kaz Falls emerg in Is5? What operator should i use?

[rich plover]

Of course she has silence

[candid grove]

with her normal attacks

[elder flume]

You dont?
I always prefered hitting bloons early than letting them untouched

[wicked minnow]

operators available from events that have record restoration, the is welfare ops, the story free ops, the archives special operations ops.
some ops like ethan and such you can get from the red cert store aswell for relatively cheap
the 3 credit store operators aswell

[glass monolith]

Spikefactoryless behaviour

[wicked minnow]

there's also conviction u-official and savage

[rich plover]

Btw, how does boss Laptop's shield work? I know it goes away after a short competition, but for how long exactly?

[candid grove]

wiki says 20 seconds

[rich plover]

Damn, 10 seconds in 2x

[candid grove]

yeah

real short

[glass monolith]

Not long enough because i uninstall boss with buffed Kroos alter S2

[candid grove]

necrosis works just fine through it though

[rich plover]

True damage lmao

[candid grove]

that too

[narrow pendant]

Idk she just exploded

[candid grove]

kaltsit will probably melt her pretty fast in phase 2

[narrow pendant]

Killed 1 op at the start and then it was over

[sly drift]

Dawg. Play ranged operator more. The stage obviously favor ranged

[rich plover]

The issue is that she teleports in phase 2

[full terrace]

Like this #strategy message

But seriously, when you see Kaz Falls it's better to just avoid it like a plague

[rich plover]

I guess just time it

[candid grove]

yeah, but she sticks around for a little while so there's no rush with good dps

[rich plover]

ok good

[candid grove]

she sticks around for 200 seconds apparently, so you shouldnt go slow, but that should still be plenty

[rich plover]

A minute+ in 2x? Zamn

Hmmmm.....S3 Narantuya or S3 Laptop against the boss....

[candid grove]

for the record, phase 1 lasts forever so there's no rush

[rich plover]

So just clear the goons first got it

[elder flume]

Its infinite during carnevale

[rich plover]

Yea I know, kill the main goons first

[candid grove]

you should end up killing the first wave during the first carnevale anyways

[steel prairie]

where is record restoration ???

isnt story Ops mostly Amiya ???

[wicked minnow]

most intermezzi and side stories have record restoration

[steel prairie]

ohh

[glass monolith]

After event been 2 years old they get restoration allowing to obtain free operator for people who missed original run and rerun 1 year later

[wicked minnow]

no you also got a bunch of ops as story rewards in later chapters

[steel prairie]

oh

[steel prairie]

awww wish Bagpipe was free for chapter 9

[narrow pendant]

[steel prairie]

WTF ???

[narrow pendant]

Midpipe imagine

[steel prairie]

stfu then you dont deserve any maidens irl

[narrow pendant]

Completly ignoring lapplands effect

Crazy

[steel prairie]

SCOTLAND FOREEVERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

[glass monolith]

I guess it is best time to say it is not Diablo 2 so cold is not elemental but status effect

[narrow pendant]

I dont give a shit

Yap in #arknights please, this isnt your blog channel

[steel prairie]

unintentional friendly fire ???

[narrow pendant]

Intentional more like

Can u start reading what your ops do?

Lappland turns off spiders explosion ability

Why is she in the back doing fuck all

Youre making it harder yourself and then complaining that the stages are difficult

[civic bear]

u got lappland but ur not abusing her

shes recommended exactly for this moment

always make sure lapp is hitting spiders

you gtta change your setup

[pure orchid]

Lowk this is why i just dont talk 🥹

[narrow pendant]

What

[pure orchid]

Not to u

[glass monolith]

That's little ass to deal with not pro players by my low af standards

[pure orchid]

If ur confused

[narrow pendant]

Im sorry this sentence does not make sense

To me at all

🥹

[candid grove]

they've been popping in and out for a little while now

[pure orchid]

Its a crazy fkn combination that i just dont know how to deal with

[narrow pendant]

What did that mean

[pure orchid]

I know getting mad is toxic and fruitless but like

[candid grove]

i dont use the channel regularly so idk how long they've been asking for help here

[narrow pendant]

They've been in #help

[civic bear]

its not the first guy nor last guy thats like this bro

ive seen worse

[elder flume]

5 years

[limpid ore]

that one guy who refuse to pull in any banner then complain about game being hard

[glass monolith]

Honestly - skill issue. We have welfare players

[limpid ore]

well, it was 5 years ago

[glass monolith]

Skill issue 5 years ago... Was Patriot stage even out?

[limpid ore]

welfare back then is like non existence

[limpid ore]

nope

[full terrace]

I dislike that type the most. Constant complaining, rejecting all ideas given to them. Just few days ago I had to deal with one.

[pure orchid]

The cycle is that they
complain about something
we give a solution
it doesnt work so they get mad and antagonize us
we tell them the execution is poor
they blame our solution being bad
and then repeat the last 2

like if only they were more open to suggestions, less full of themselves, and admit that btd exp doesnt hold shit in ak cus its similar in like just 2 ways and different in a lot more ways than you can count

[full terrace]

And last year Ancool had to deal with an extraordinary one

[pure orchid]

Cup full type shit

[full terrace]

Ign was brute force enjoyer

[pure orchid]

theyre still around btw, just less often

[full terrace]

It was peak entertainment seeing Ancool got frustrated

[civic bear]

newbies are just newbies

its more annoying when theyve been a long ass player

[elder flume]

Its why i went less teaching route and more copy this route

If they learn something cool
If not they finished the map

[pure orchid]

Im too lazy to open the game to make something to copy so im stuck teaching

[glass monolith]

I'm playing AK for so long it is hard for me to give good starter tips because my mindset reject easily abuseable meta ftw and i have 60+ niche operators i will shill on random periods of game

[full terrace]

Teaching is better than feeding. You feed a man one meal, he eats once. You teach him how to cook, he eats for life.

[pure orchid]

i just taught someone how to splitbox yesterday

They were tryna make an pv-8 auto

was fun

[full terrace]

I spoonfeed too but like, if I can pass the ideas so that someone would learn, I'd just do that

[pure orchid]

its fish bro, not cook 😭

[elder flume]

I just think of it as my own brain exercise

[steel prairie]

bruh its because she have range so I can make room for Ops that doesnt have range

and incase of incoming flying enemies

since she can also hit air targets

[elder flume]

Since i get to try a new possible strat with shitty E0 1 ops

[steel prairie]

so she is good for last line of defense since I have no idea what enemies Im facing

[glass monolith]

You will know if stage has flying enemies after you leak one. Before it no reason to play as if every stage gonna force one on you

[civic bear]

i mean you are right she has range

[narrow pendant]

U can place her where saria is

[civic bear]

but then you block top side

[limpid ore]

silence has range yet you put her close to explosion

[civic bear]

and shes too far back

she cant even reach top

[limpid ore]

[steel prairie]

ik but retrying is quite heck a lot of work in this game since it has no retry button

[prisma swift]

whar

they give u practice plans

at worst u lose one sanity

its like 2 clicks to retry

??

[limpid ore]

back in my day, we didnt even have lot of option

[steel prairie]

its because the UI sucked... you have to press so much buttons to get out of it and then press more to get back in

[steel prairie]

4 or 5 actually

[civic bear]

not wrong

[steel prairie]

since you have to go back in

[elder flume]

Back when losing CM is half sanity loss

[civic bear]

they should just add restart button

[full terrace]

Gameplay is basically trial and error. You dont wanna try and only get spoonfed, Arknights is not for you.

[civic bear]

remove the whole sanity loss

its pointless these days

😴

[glass monolith]

I LOST SO FUCKING MUCH ON NL-EX-8 AND NL-S-4

[steel prairie]

restart button is just one button... this game for a whole retry... you have to press 2 times to get out... then two more times to get back in... see how its a pain in the ass ???

[civic bear]

its a bad mechanic that punishes trial and error and rewards copying

[steel prairie]

back in the day there is a restart button for nearly every game

[narrow pendant]

Oh no, 4 presses

[civic bear]

theres nothing htey lose by making failed attempt cost nothing

[narrow pendant]

I'll die

[steel prairie]

and you have to load in and out

so total of 6

[civic bear]

restarting is definitely a pain bro

i would know

[steel prairie]

imagine if your game crashes when you trying to fukin restart

[civic bear]

💀

[prisma swift]

they waste their effort making the practice plan mechanic

[glass monolith]

You should have played this game 4 years ago when you had to MANUALLY INPUT EXP TICKETS WHEN LEVELING. AND THERE WAS HARD LIMIT ON 40 TICKETS AT ONCE

[narrow pendant]

U really like to complain about everything and anything

[limpid ore]

so much for pc master race

[steel prairie]

bruh which game doesnt have a restart button ??? thats like the most basic game design... how is that complaining ???

[civic bear]

myon is riight

its some part of where ak just weird

[rapid junco]

No hurt more than crash on winnable gardener

[glass monolith]

Also game added Retry button for some content but only one which consumes 0 sanity, so you don't waste your energy

[pure orchid]

Consider it the "walk of shame" from dying, respawning at a checkpoint, and going back to where you died to try again

It's a necessary evil to be a minor annoyance to people who would spend the entire day playing if there wasn't anything to stop them, even if minor

[civic bear]

theyre awfully slow for qol

[steel prairie]

so lets give you a phone or PC that doesnt have a restart button... would you complain ???

its so basic

[civic bear]

this is just bad design tho

if you want to promote trial and error

[glass monolith]

Can't give long desired QoL for hype if one design everything right

[full terrace]

Gardener win is a given. Sentinel! 🤤

[narrow pendant]

Then get better at the game and win on first try

[prisma swift]

wont mind manually resetting in the ui

[civic bear]

how to get better

[elder flume]

Practice plan was cool back then

[civic bear]

if i dont play a lot of times

[narrow pendant]

Play and think!

[rapid junco]

You need to win gardener before sentinel 🤫

[glass monolith]

Practice auto deploy abuse

[civic bear]

does adding restart button stops that? id argue it helps better

idk why you guys defending this kind of laack of qol

[prisma swift]

room temperature iq discussion

[pure orchid]

Im adamant on my stance but i do admit that it does kill the spirit of experimentation
Sometimes i wish theyd make a compromise where they have a retry button but only in practice

[limpid ore]

IS5 but all f4 nodes are emergency epochal gaps

[prisma swift]

cool to have
but not a thing to blame for your own loss

[rapid junco]

God blessing ever 6fl boss are gardener 👼

[wicked minnow]

watch and analyze is4 d15 triple ending runs

[steel prairie]

they are literally asking if PC or phones should have restart feature lmao

[civic bear]

so

[steel prairie]

literally a simple restart is what allows you to learn... nearly every good games have it

[civic bear]

copying

is that really what we want

[pure orchid]

Well if it helps elucidate, it helps with my lack of self-control
If given enough time, i.e. if i wasnt so busy, id probably waste my time playing all day

[civic bear]

i mean i dont particularly mind is stuff

like sure thats the gamemode

but like

normal stage

[full terrace]

Emergency Epochal Gaps is easy, try Emergency Illusive Merc 🤤

[civic bear]

im just referring to general stages

[pure orchid]

There are people like me
Call it skill issue or smth but its smth i really do have trouble with

[glass monolith]

You lose some sanity each time you fail stage after first. You asking for uncontrolable way to waste sanity because unless you count in head it wont display how much you have left

[steel prairie]

look at all the good games: Halo, classic COD, classic Battlefield, Minecraft, Smash Bro... what do they have ?? a FUKIN RESTART BUTTON.. hell Halo even lets you jump back in immediently...

and they were in the 2000s... even the 1990s

[civic bear]

all games ive seen has restart it just basic

[prisma swift]

idk why u are trying to imply its impossible to learn without the restart button
sure its cool to have but without it its still 5 extra clicks only
its not a thing to blame on when u cant beat a stage

[steel prairie]

back in my day my ass

[glass monolith]

Halo has restart button? Or we now coutn every single quick save/load shooter just to nitpick on gacha?

[civic bear]

his ppoint is less about 5 clicks (it is too) but also it takes forever to restart

awfully noticable on mobile

[steel prairie]

its much quicker to learn and easier if it have a restart button... and doesnt stress your memory

[civic bear]

if ur phone isnt the best

it can take 1 minute per reset

consider thats possibly average player

[pure orchid]

lol im pretty sure you have to go through a menu with a couple of buttons to restart in those games

[steel prairie]

exactly... and you have to "LOAD" in and out... so imagine your game crashing

[glass monolith]

You should stop using 12 summoners:

[steel prairie]

lol nope... hell Halo you dont even need to press ANYTHING

[civic bear]

it just overall bad qol

[steel prairie]

and thats in 2001

[prisma swift]

why would this be a discussion in strategy go submit a complaint or something whining about the game in here helps jackshit

[pure orchid]

Even so, those games dont even need to have supplementary buttons to annoy you, just the loading time from reloading your save is enough to annoy you

[civic bear]

now again its not an excuse

[steel prairie]

it was already submitted a lot of time... Arknights just have slow QoL

I wasnt the first one

[pure orchid]

Whatever then say halo but not cod bf minecraft smash bro etc

[glass monolith]

In Halo you lose only time between being alive and not. In Arknights you consume energy which is time gated resource

[civic bear]

but again read up . all he said is

ik but retrying is quite heck a lot of work in this game since it has no retry button

[steel prairie]

Minecraft is just 1 button.. COD is sometimes also 0... Battlefield is 2

[civic bear]

i feel like you guys are just going on him because of his previous behaviors

like just chill out

[pure orchid]

Not even

[steel prairie]

exactly... thats why I dont use practice mode since you have to load in and out again

[pure orchid]

I just like the way we restart as is

[rapid junco]

[narrow pendant]

Crying here wont help anyway, its just something that is, and all u can do is accept it

[civic bear]

i mean sure you like it

[narrow pendant]

We cant di anything at the end if the day, can we

[glass monolith]

Why he compares shooters where you lose nothing to game where you lose something on restart. Someone point him to battle cats where you lose 100% of stage cost on defeat

[civic bear]

everyone is different

[full terrace]

You complaining here for what purpose? None of us are developers, send your complaints to yostar or hypergryph, flood their cs

Not this channel

[pure orchid]

Agree to disagree yeah

[rapid junco]

Arf have enough 😭

[civic bear]

eh

in this specific topic

[prisma swift]

still valid
hes trying to justify his in game placement with the argument of “retrying takes a lot of time” and regardless if thats true his placement is still shit

[civic bear]

i dont think he was exactly complaining

bro

[steel prairie]

dude your the first one to bash on me... also I was asking for help and get surprised... not to mention its "claimed" to be a TD game when it clearly isnt and its more like a RPG game

[civic bear]

read up what happened

he said that and then somehow its like everyone has ! above their head

and chime in

[rapid junco]

Too long, I may ended blogging

[steel prairie]

and your the one thats complaining when Im asking for help... then whats even the purpose of the help or strategy section ???

[civic bear]

just drop it

honestly

[steel prairie]

ok

[civic bear]

and those who arent helping should just leave

[glass monolith]

ask for help and get surprized
And this conga line of discussion looped back to that one asshole who went over agressive instead explaining how he should have utilized Lapp because he clearly was unaware of silence application against freeze spiders

[civic bear]

well now he know

[narrow pendant]

Because you were helped tens of times but you complain because "it doesnt work for me"?
Like that sk2 thing in #help

[civic bear]

thats all that matters

[narrow pendant]

When it cleary does work for everyone who showed u

[candid grove]

i explained it to him earlier, for what it's worth

[civic bear]

he didnt knew beforeh e posted the pic no

[somber falcon]

Causing chaos even irl, truly the wild wolf

[civic bear]

and ye you did explain

[steel prairie]

because I was confused when I tried it...

[civic bear]

but he was backreading

[narrow pendant]

We told him what silence is when it came to DoT ops

Since he thought the silence icon is bleed or something

So he knew

[pure orchid]

Yall got this, ima cook rice

[steel prairie]

no because I assume your talking about the Character Silence... that medic owl

[narrow pendant]

Well, at least knew what silence is

[narrow pendant]

I did state twice

Silence the effect

Not operator

[full terrace]

Bro thats literally complaining, unless you calling "retry button" discussion a theorycrafting to solve a stage, it's still off-topic. I mean idm if it's one or two mild mentions but if the entire discussion is about this, it's not right

[narrow pendant]

Cook some extra for me🥹

[wicked minnow]

i explained what record restoration was and he proceeded to ask what it was again like 10 messages after

[civic bear]

it wasnt supposed to be full discussion

it was just a mild mention

[steel prairie]

thats why I got confused because we were talking about where I should place my medics earlier

[candid grove]

well, you know now, right?

[steel prairie]

bruh... they told me "why dont you use the practice feature" and I just told them why and needed to explain to them... not complaining

[steel prairie]

ik it was misinterpritation... but wtf I wasnt even complaining first and you guys bashed me

[full terrace]

And I was reprimanded just because of mild mention from the 6th anni ytd, that was even milder. It's the rule I think it's only fair for everyone to follow

[prisma swift]

its generally not recommended to place all your shit at the back
if u really dont want to lose u can watch a guide or have someone to spoil the entire thing for u (which could take more time if you really really care about it)
the game has no retry button and it will probably stay that way if u dont like it try the method above or just stop playing
complaining will not help anything

[candid grove]

i just want to make sure the misunderstanding was cleared up now

[civic bear]

all good

we can move on

[steel prairie]

it literally went "where should I place my medics" to "best way to counter icecleaver and freeze effect" and then you guys ask why not practice.. which I had to explain

[candid grove]

yeah, watching some clear of a mission is a nice way to figure out what happens in a stage if you dont want to try it yourself

[steel prairie]

ik but wtf Fredi ??? can I report him ???

[full terrace]

Lets drop it and move on

[narrow pendant]

I never said anything about practice

[candid grove]

i wasnt here for the start of the current discussion but i personally like using practice tickets a lot

[narrow pendant]

I said to make a better use of lappland

Dince she fixes ur freeze spider issue

And youre grouping your ops too much

[steel prairie]

before that you were bashing me... accuse me of complaining when it was misinterpretation

[glass monolith]

Can we fix it?

[narrow pendant]

Somaoe will have better effect

[candid grove]

just keep in mind that at e1, the silence is not always active

[steel prairie]

I did that so the medics can cover all the Ops

[civic bear]

grouping not too big of a problem

its mainly lappland position

should help

lessen the burden enough

[steel prairie]

I beat it anyway without support... by moving the Ops more front

[civic bear]

[candid grove]

as far as this picture goes, silence the medic should really be moved back behind chen and you can move lin where silence is right now

or moving the other ops forward, that works too

[steel prairie]

and having Greythroat and lappland out of the blast range for the kill

[candid grove]

basically, you just dont want your ranged ops completely exposed to enemy attacks most of the time

[steel prairie]

oh I eventually did that... its because before hand I thought that block was not allowed to put units

[narrow pendant]

Is silence not e1?

[steel prairie]

it is but not as massive as Mulberry... and since I wanna spread them out to avoid freeze blast she was gonna get outranged

so Silence still had to be closer

[narrow pendant]

I meant e1 so u can use her s2

[candid grove]

silence's skill 2 gives her a drone that can be put anywhere on the map

[somber falcon]

His silence is e1 50

[civic bear]

should be ye

drone is op

[steel prairie]

ik and she is on S2... but that drone last only 10 seconds and the ice cleaver takes massive dmg... not to mention you cant put it on certain areas

[somber falcon]

Also silence could've been one row above gt and it'll be fine

[civic bear]

oh incase you dont know

icecleaver deals extra dmg to frozen enemy

[somber falcon]

Oh wait chen not gt

Mb

[civic bear]

thats why u want to avoid getting ur unit frozen

[candid grove]

tbf, that 10 seconds is usually all you need

[steel prairie]

errr Im not really buying that (not complaining about you) but even when deployed first my medics for some reason still gets targeted first

[candid grove]

that's because they're the only ones in range

[somber falcon]

^

[steel prairie]

no even on the previous map I posted above... the medic was behind the VG and the medic was the first to get hit by

was it 6-7 ??? idk I did posted earlier

[prisma swift]

they hit 2 enemies right

[civic bear]

caster hits 2

[somber falcon]

Iirc yes

[civic bear]

wait

[prisma swift]

get gravel

[civic bear]

ch 6 caster not sure

i dont think so

[candid grove]

not these guys

[rapid junco]

The white caster with hand guard hit 2 enemies

[candid grove]

these guys only hit one

[steel prairie]

ice mages ???

[narrow pendant]

Its the nkrmal casters that hit two

[rapid junco]

No, ice mage hit 1
And do special freeze on 3rd hit

[steel prairie]

interesting enough I never realize they actually hit 2 targets

[candid grove]

id have to see a picture of what you did to see why the medic got hit

[candid grove]

they dont, it's a misunderstanding

[steel prairie]

oh ok

[civic bear]

different caster

dw bout it

[steel prairie]

I did posted up but imma have to find it.. either way now I have a bigger problem

[narrow pendant]

Not these ones
The earlier ones with armor on their hands

[steel prairie]

how do you deal with camping mages

[steel prairie]

ik ik

[civic bear]

this one the actually few hard stage

[candid grove]

these guys?

[maiden hound]

wisadel obviously

[narrow pendant]

The elite version, red ones

iirc

Its been too long

🥹

[candid grove]

ah, here we go

[glass monolith]

You could deploy someone who does decent damage to them followed right away with someone to stall their attention. Gravel skill 2 is goat

[candid grove]

i didnt realize the elite version would have a unique effect like that

[narrow pendant]

Elite for a reason :ya:

[steel prairie]

oh ??? for me it just feels like they usually deal more dmg than normal mages rather than hitting twice but now I know

[candid grove]

how many enemies get new effects when they're elite?

[somber stone]

Isn’t it the yeti squad casters and not spec op

[candid grove]

i cant think of any, but idk how many i assumed were the same that were actually different

[glass monolith]

it is attack 2 targets meaning 2 last deployed operators in range in danger. There are separate thing for attacking twice but it is rare

[limpid ore]

it's rare thing for elite version of enemies doing other thing beside just having more stats

[steel prairie]

I thought the spec ops are in the yeti squad

[candid grove]

yeah, i was just wondering what caster they were talking about

[steel prairie]

along with ice cleavers

[rapid junco]

Texas or yato are good for this stage

[candid grove]

the yeti themselves are spec ops i think

but that's lore stuff

[narrow pendant]

Well, they do

[steel prairie]

but anyways thats also the issue with my VG... since they are usually the first to go in most arent tanky enough to take on camping mages

[narrow pendant]

Elites have increased stats

[civic bear]

these are save from caster

but since there are two spiders at start

[rapid junco]

Yeti squad are frostnova team name

[civic bear]

the idea is that you kill spiders early

and then setup middle

and then slowly kills left and right caster

slowly kill spiders 1 by 1

[steel prairie]

also why doesnt it show their range stats ??? like I keep on mixing it up is their range 3 tiles or 4 ???

[candid grove]

because fuck you, that's why

the casters have 2.2 tiles of range, for the record

[steel prairie]

thats how I always felt in this game lmao

[civic bear]

yea they like to hide these info

it is to fuck you up

[steel prairie]

wait they can go 0.2 ??? that exist ingame ???

[candid grove]

i think the actual reason is because they like to change the stats to whatever they want

[glass monolith]

Remember when CC would not display enemy info card before you beat stage?

[candid grove]

it's not a tile range, it's just an amount of distance equal to a tile

[civic bear]

everything is circle based. tile is just for simplicity

[candid grove]

yeah

[steel prairie]

oh icc

[rapid junco]

This game real range was circular not square as it looks

[narrow pendant]

Its circle

[somber falcon]

just do r0 smh ezpz

[narrow pendant]

Everything is a circle

🥹

2.2 range is 4.4 tile diameter circle with the enemy as the center

[glass monolith]

"Just do R0" - CC in question: Who is real

[candid grove]

anyways, they dont want to bother editing the stats every time they reuse an enemy and give them massive buffs so they just use incredibly vague letters

[narrow pendant]

I mean, the letters do stand for the number ranges

[steel prairie]

I like how in lore there are so many informants that gives characters intel... yet in gameplay we recieved none lol

[narrow pendant]

U just dont know without looking the ranges up

🥹

[candid grove]

except for when they dont because the enemies in that stage all have +3000 hp, def, and atk

[narrow pendant]

Those usualy get stat modifier mentioned on the stage description

And shit like that

[candid grove]

yeah, it's not reflected in the actual stat page though, which is what i mean

[narrow pendant]

sometimes

[steel prairie]

ok it seems like I actually need support in 6-11... so far in chapter 6 I only 2 times I need support the difficulty spikes are so werid

[glass monolith]

We used to get even less info. Like today you can see "attack speed, movement speed, weight, hp seals consumed on leak". Used to be data mine only information

[narrow pendant]

Lets see when he meets 7-9, 16 and 18

[steel prairie]

who is usually best against camping mages ? (besides Blaze... the only one I have that can actually take care of 1 campers)

[candid grove]

what the fuck is a silenceable ability?

[candid grove]

ideally, fast redeploy ops that can do damage

[somber falcon]

abilities that can be silenced

[candid grove]

without them you have to get creative

[civic bear]

try borrow yato s2. make short work

[steel prairie]

is crownslayer actually useful on it ???

[civic bear]

yato s3 works too

i mean crownslayer can work too 😂

[somber falcon]

if raised

[candid grove]

yeah, probably?

once you get her to e1 max or whatever

in something like this, you either want to kill them from far away or use two ops to kill them

one placed first to attack them then a second one placed after to distract them

[somber stone]

Does Chen s2 not kill

[candid grove]

it's not instant at SL7

idk if it kills at e1

[limpid ore]

need S2M3 for instant use on deployment

she might death of cold before that

[civic bear]

dont think she kills evne at max

[candid grove]

more like will

might still work with gravel distraction though

[narrow pendant]

Year0 op problems :ya:

[limpid ore]

people when they dont know that swordmastwr 2 hits normal attack only restore 1 SP

[steel prairie]

ok sorry I just have to do this W is way too OP
but interestingly enough the ice mages can also freeze spikes ??? they count as objects ??? (where Silence drones doesnt count as a object but somehow takes up a tile slot)

[narrow pendant]

They count as summons

[glass monolith]

I think he refers to time when we had NO symbol for it being silenceable in enemy info so we have exploding spiders we can silence, freeze spiders we can silence, and exploding TW dudes who we can't silence - get fucked

[limpid ore]

anything that can be attacked can freeze

[candid grove]

tbf, a ton of 6* ops lack significant chunks of their kit at e1

[pure orchid]

Succumbing to W brainrot

[candid grove]

it's hardly unique to year 1 ops

[civic bear]

its all "units"

[steel prairie]

I mean how else I can beat the campers man ???

[narrow pendant]

While silence drone is..uh, something else

[candid grove]

yeah, silence's drone is a special thing

[maiden hound]

they call em "tokens" iirc

[civic bear]

token

[somber falcon]

kroos + gravel

[civic bear]

is in game name iirc

[steel prairie]

silence drone takes up a tile slot but doesnt get targetted... interesting...

[candid grove]

thankfully, now we get symbols for most silenceable abilities

[brittle mesa]

Have some of you managed to beat PV 8?

[candid grove]

if they remember to add it

[pure orchid]

I mean u gotta do what u gotta do but... using her makes you learn less

[somber falcon]

everything placed takes a tile, what do you even mean

[maiden hound]

most should have

[steel prairie]

there just so much mechanics yet also so much exceptions

[narrow pendant]

Most yea

[pure orchid]

Yeah its part of the game

Overwhelming at first then u get used to it later (or not )

[steel prairie]

good news is that so far in chapter 6 its the least amount I have used supporst so far

[candid grove]

need some help?

[narrow pendant]

Wait till ch7

[steel prairie]

like chapter 5 I need to use W for like 3/4 of it

[narrow pendant]

[glass monolith]

Welcome to basically Arknights. Everything has exception. Probably even my statement about exceptions has exception

[brittle mesa]

I need some help. I have been using S1 Horn and gummy at start but dealing with it is bit hard

[brittle mesa]

Yeah

[candid grove]

arknights isnt the most tightly knit game in terms of mechanics

[rapid junco]

Erm

[somber falcon]

what are your ops? you can send screenshot

[candid grove]

what's the problem, the normal enemies or the trucks?

[pure orchid]

what

[brittle mesa]

Trucks

[pure orchid]

we need some context lol

oh

[brittle mesa]

I have lappland but I don’t know where to put it

[candid grove]

do you happen to have elemental supporters?

[brittle mesa]

Nope?

[candid grove]

or kaltsit

[brittle mesa]

No

[candid grove]

nevermind then

[rapid junco]

Virtuousa s3 can handle cars easily, you just need block them In the middle

[maiden hound]

use lappland if she's e1, at the left turn to blue box facing down

[narrow pendant]

Cars have 90% dr btw
So most stuff wont do much outside of carneval
Arturia is the best

[glass monolith]

Uh... It is sort of is. But it balances it by making problem being same mechanic for 10 stages in row instead mixing 5 mechanics at once then 5 other mechanics next stage

[narrow pendant]

One of the better options rather

[pure orchid]

If only i offrate art instead of texalter :reallymad:

[limpid ore]

either abuse the event mechanic or use elemental damage

[narrow pendant]

L bozo

[maiden hound]

L bozo

[limpid ore]

L bozo

[candid grove]

the slow fireworks are really helpful on this stage

[pure orchid]

Dont make me pull out the fact that its just 26 pulls you bozos

[narrow pendant]

Die

[candid grove]

you can slow down the trucks before they reach the fireworks and you can pump a lot of damage into them

[pure orchid]

[limpid ore]

i used sheep fireworks and the truck just exploded

[viscid raft]

By Arturia do you mean virtousa

[candid grove]

yeah, same person

[narrow pendant]

Ofc its her namw

[limpid ore]

arturia giallo

[glass monolith]

Slow firework + chain caster + Indigo. Simon says HALT

[candid grove]

damn, really?

the burn fireworks seemed pretty useless in my experience

[rapid junco]

Don't edit it
It's looks so fake now

[glass monolith]

Well burn fireworks can replace lack of dps

[pure orchid]

Ill resend it

Real name arturia code name virtuosa
-# last name same with mine

There we go

[candid grove]

the dps check isnt so bad with slow

depending on what you're using i guess

[narrow pendant]

Fireworks have 500 atk, so need 4 explpsions to proc burn
8 with the cars since they are elite iorc

[rapid junco]

Delusions are part of schizo

[candid grove]

i personally used a e1 santalla on one of the ranged trucks and that went great

so a lot of solid casters should work well too

[viscid raft]

Is ines still the best vanguard

[glass monolith]

2000 is boss only I think. So still 4

[narrow pendant]

Wasnt both boss and elites 2000?

[candid grove]

she never was

she doesnt have a super fluffy tail like flametail

[narrow pendant]

Thats why she got the elites dmg in her module trait

[glass monolith]

[narrow pendant]

Ingrid fluffy ears beat that

L ft

[pure orchid]

Ines so good everyone else is just fighting for 2nd place 😭

[candid grove]

anyways, it's hard to say what exactly you should use without seeing what you have, but waiting for the carnevale then dumping damage onto the trucks is the basic strategy

block the melee trucks outside of the carnevale

[narrow pendant]

No? Top1 is pot6 ines
Top2 is pot5 ines..
And so it goes

[rapid junco]

Borrow virt s3 and spam 3 blocker

[candid grove]

clearly, the two of them need to have another daughter so we have the best of both worlds

[narrow pendant]

We need to try too

[pure orchid]

Ft has fluffier tail, vulpi has fluffier ears
I see ears more so i know who wins for me

[pure orchid]

Excuse me

Right in front of me

[candid grove]

sorry, but im already taken by my waifu

[pure orchid]

really

[narrow pendant]

Sorry hubby

[pure orchid]

This sucks wtf

[candid grove]

truly a drama to last the ages

tragodia would be pleased

[narrow pendant]

Yoire a participant

[maiden hound]

sneakos

[pure orchid]

You are the one who brings ruin to this family

[candid grove]

im just being a little silly

[pure orchid]

Oh hes just being a little silly

Alright youre good

I drop all charges

[candid grove]

[scarlet mortar]

arturia S1 when she sees an enemy with no necrosis:

[brittle mesa]

Here

[pure orchid]

My favorite is ebenholz s3 when he sees an elite/boss

[brittle mesa]

It’s not much but decent enough

[pure orchid]

Er next time can we sort by rarity

[brittle mesa]

@candid grove

[pure orchid]

Honestly all your 6*s are good except vivi and cs

You can build them without worrying

[candid grove]

oh, i just meant your casters

that works too

[maiden hound]

lava alter mentioned!!!

[wicked minnow]

vivi is fiiine i'd build her too

[candid grove]

tbf, vivi is a perfectly good arts guard

[pure orchid]

e2 proviso for base please

[candid grove]

definitely a good option for when you need to fight elites and stuff

[pure orchid]

a lot of base slaves arent e1 too, gotta work on those

I havent tried vivi but i wouldnt shill before her delta at least

[brittle mesa]

Been busy with events

[pure orchid]

And like if ever, she's the last thing they should build

Lots of options u dont have to cope for here

[candid grove]

on a side note, id set amiya's standard skill to her s2

if you're gonna use her, her s2 is significantly better than her s1

[scarlet mortar]

uhhhhh

[brittle mesa]

Dammit, I forgot whole true damage thing

[wicked minnow]

she's definitely not the last thing i would build but he does in fact have a lot of really good units

[scarlet mortar]

i'd disagree

[candid grove]

true damage is s3

[wicked minnow]

all of casterymiya's skills are ass

[scarlet mortar]

S2 does get better than S1 with investment, but until E2 S2M3 or sth it's kinda ass

[candid grove]

from a quick look at your leveled up casters, amiya and click should be enough to deal with the ranged trucks

[candid grove]

just e2 should be fine to fix the major issues

that being the massive sp requirement

[pure orchid]

NOPE I WILL SHILL AMIYA S3 FOR LAPPBOSS

[somber falcon]

that e1 ifrit should burn the cars nicely when they come for the fireworks

[pure orchid]

Guys are you ready to see me pull lappalt with my free pull later

[wicked minnow]

oh he has a max e2 amiya damn

[candid grove]

it's certainly not the worst option for something like this

[wicked minnow]

wishing you the best on your singular pull

[scarlet mortar]

i mean since S1 also gains insane uptime with the talent you want to cut a lot out of S2's downtime

[candid grove]

yeah, but the damage you get from that uptime is kinda shit