strategy

[narrow pendant]

Like

Every stage in is4

🥹

[royal lichen]

o

haven't started is4

almost through with 3

[wicked minnow]

just got 2nd win. ok im gonna go do something more productive with my life now 👋

[crisp bolt]

get stunlocked lmao

[wicked minnow]

oh right there's more april fools games

[acoustic slate]

10th round was veins and German casters vs pugilists and crocs mf didn’t stand a chance

[royal lichen]

I've made a huge mistake

wow this is so difficult

[acoustic slate]

Wow rare Pompeii w

(I think)

[hardy needle]

Which

[royal lichen]

Mortars did better than expected

[acoustic slate]

As they usually do !!!

[royal lichen]

The BGM of the event page reminds me of Danganronpa

[acoustic slate]

The only thing left has going for it is dodge

[hardy needle]

Do boxer and croc shred blade?

That the question

[full terrace]

Yes, they have the damage

But they dont have the sustain

The sustains are with the dodge bouncers

[hardy needle]

If they can kill blade and boxer fast enough then golem aren't relevant

[acoustic slate]

I thknk puglists take a decent chunk out of the left’s numbers, so the avengers and golem clean up

[full terrace]

Idk it's close but I would take 2x Jesselton, seems like they have the dmg for Golem

[hardy needle]

Jesselton can kill golem?

He look fraud

[full terrace]

But if the bouncers dodge anyway

[acoustic slate]

It depends if a couple of avengers survive or not

[full terrace]

If you wanna do Golems go ahead

[acoustic slate]

always bet on golems!!!!

[crisp bolt]

bruh my game freaking out

[full terrace]

Everything will be killed and final battle is 2x Jesselton vs Golem I think

[acoustic slate]

That sounds like easy W for golems as long as they aren’t stunlocked

[hardy needle]

Not close

[acoustic slate]

Wow!!

[royal lichen]

Golemchads stay winning

[full terrace]

See my guts telling me left had the advantage

Gotta trust your instinct

[acoustic slate]

I guess puglists got insta-shred

[royal lichen]

omg I hate this

[acoustic slate]

And then avengers got outnumbered

[royal lichen]

stacking DEF debuffs are so op

[acoustic slate]

You’ll never guess what happens!!!

[full terrace]

Thats a tough one but I guess mortars?

[proud dune]

The ice monsters are pretty strong

[full terrace]

They walk slow

Mortar does AoE and they would have hit them quite a bit

Before they get close

And those giants dont have that much def to tank the mortars

If two of them are close together mortars can hit both

[acoustic slate]

Mortars died to reflect from 100 yards away!!!

[full terrace]

Lmao okay fair

[acoustic slate]

Arf L!

[proud dune]

Lightsabers and Ice Monsters rarely miss

[acoustic slate]

I think each vein golem procs their own reflect, so mortars didn’t stand a chance

5 reflects for every 1 attack type situation I guess

[royal lichen]

shooting before match begins

Yo the mortars are cheating

potshots

[crisp bolt]

they still lose

[royal lichen]

what cheaters deserve

[acoustic slate]

Do golems get stunlock vs sarkaz guys?

[full terrace]

Oh lord I ran out of Crystalline

[full terrace]

Nope Golem punches them to death 🤤

Those Sarkaz dudes are so tanky coz they have 2 lives

I like them

[crisp bolt]

golem does get stunlocked by them but I think right wins that?

[acoustic slate]

[crisp bolt]

pompeii fraud

[full terrace]

Stunlock ≠ stun, stunlock means not moving from getting stunned

[full terrace]

Your Golem died? 😂

[acoustic slate]

Golem didn’t target axe dudes 🚬

Frauds!

[full terrace]

[crisp bolt]

3-4 are enough to cancel all of golems attacks if they are lucky enough

effectively stunlocking him

[full terrace]

I love this event

[acoustic slate]

Yeah golem probably had like… -30 aspd

From stuns

[crisp bolt]

I had one with 4 of those guys who managed to completely stunlock them because their stuns were staggered perfectly

[full terrace]

Aspd is not the issue, it's the duration of its attacking animation, I had a Golem punching three of those Sarkaz dudes before

Golem did win

[crisp bolt]

wtf

I've always had the golem lose in those scenarios

every time I've had it

[full terrace]

Lemme see if I recorded that, I won mine

[wicked minnow]

golem should lose to like 3 of the chapter 13 enemies

[royal lichen]

bro wtf

3 pompeii lost to like 30 plastics

[wicked minnow]

pompeii is a fraud

[glass monolith]

Meet target limit

[wicked minnow]

known fraud 🥱

[glass monolith]

Back in my day we had CCs to have global range pompeii with multihit 8

[full terrace]

Didnt record

[crisp bolt]

bruh I just got scammed

[full terrace]

But I won mine anyway

[crisp bolt]

the originum guys just lost to the aoe guys because of movement problems

[full terrace]

Yeah I just checked my directory, didnt manage to record that one

Next time I meet that scenario again I'll record

Still got my alt account to play

[royal lichen]

plastics actually op

[full terrace]

Can tank a bit but no

Once the shields are gone, they are weak

Plastic = Crabs

[acoustic slate]

Finally a fair fight

[muted egret]

first time using tin man, is he good?

[acoustic slate]

Fraud Vs fraud

Number win in such case

[full terrace]

Pompeii is a team player

If there is someone blocking for it to dps, the AoE can be devastating

But if it got no tank, Pompeiis are easy to kill

[little ravine]

is there a general betting guide for the april fools event ?

[royal lichen]

lol

[little ravine]

easy wolf win?

[royal lichen]

very easy

[formal creek]

What this event reunion?
Does this event have prizes?

[proud dune]

It gives you one prime and a piece of furniture

[acoustic slate]

Jess and Pompeii are frauds, as well as collapse soldiers

Golems are chads

Vein guardians vs hoards of low DPH are goated

Mortars & German casters vs hoards are insta-win

Avengers are generally safe bets unless they get outnumbered

I usually bet against crabs and plastic knights unless damage is back-loaded

[royal lichen]

arrrrrrgh I hate this

[crisp bolt]

here we go again

[full terrace]

Oof thats really tough

Mortars will land on shielders prob doing no damage

[crisp bolt]

fuckkk

[full terrace]

Problem is the katana dudes

[crisp bolt]

time to do this shit all over again

this is the 5th time I've lost on round 9

[full terrace]

I was going to say I'd take left

[crisp bolt]

I thought I could win with mortar on the casters

but I got scammed

[full terrace]

Nah mortars land on shielders

[crisp bolt]

the were landing on the casters originally

through splash range

[leaden sierra]

Jessy second phase loses arts res and gains defense.

[crisp bolt]

if the jedis survived long enough they would've destroyed him

[little ravine]

does jesselton beat the mephisto originium runners ?

[crisp bolt]

no

[full terrace]

Lol those possessed enemies are tough

And they hit hard

You better side with them

[acoustic slate]

Possessed only lose to big hoards or time

[leaden sierra]

yeah, 3 of them can beat jess no problem. Jess stalls with his phase change.

[steady moth]

Up to almost 20 million now, I better not fuck this up.

124 million

[royal lichen]

yall think golems can punch through alldat?

[acoustic slate]

Yes, if puglists at least help thin the shieldguards

[royal lichen]

Good enough for me

ALL IN BABYYYY

[wicked minnow]

ye golems should do well

[royal lichen]

ono

Pugilists are such a scam

give me the durin boxers any day

[acoustic slate]

They got 1 !!!!

[royal lichen]

wegood

Golems when no def pen:

[wicked minnow]

golems my goats

[acoustic slate]

She cooked

[royal lichen]

I lost it all

[acoustic slate]

Wait what

[royal lichen]

notlikethis

[acoustic slate]

The golems died

?

[royal lichen]

nah, next round

[acoustic slate]

[royal lichen]

funniest shi I've seen all day

Except that I lost

cuz I betted on wolves

[steady moth]

893,000,000 let’s gooo

I lost at one away from 99999999

Fuck my life

[royal lichen]

F

[steady moth]

I betted against two jesseltons and they actually won

[royal lichen]

jesselgod

[glass monolith]

My 10 win run had 2 Jess wins

[crisp bolt]

damn

jess can beat 2 pompeii but not 3 pompeii

[royal lichen]

What about jess AND 3 pompeii

vs trash

[leaden sierra]

left has nobody to kill jess. The casters will die from Pompei. Easy right win.

[royal lichen]

BRUH

The casters have infinite res

deadge

[leaden sierra]

oops

[royal lichen]

it was close tho

[leaden sierra]

always is

[full terrace]

Game wants you to think "oh this side is obvious win"

[royal lichen]

such a scam

never betting on jess and pompeii again

[full terrace]

Then screw you up in an unimaginable way

[leaden sierra]

just make sure to also look at their positions in the map, RNG can change a lot of things.

[royal lichen]

coinflip probably more reliable than actually trying for 9 and 10

Aight I'm losing on first stage now

this i sbull

def pen slugs vs shell slugs

[leaden sierra]

shell

[royal lichen]

it was shell but really close

and I lost

[leaden sierra]

shell guys are surprisingly tanky

[royal lichen]

I think I'll just grab the odumdum prime and stop

this is getting to be too much

[graceful parrot]

Is there a matchup guide anywhere on what's known to beat what

[royal lichen]

Nope

Just gotta get a feel for it and pray

[graceful parrot]

Dang, I've seen a bunch of these but there's some genuine surprises

[leaden sierra]

There is no guarantees in this world

[graceful parrot]

Truer words never spoken

[leaden sierra]

Anyway, I know right wins but can someone explain why?

[graceful parrot]

They have reflect

[crisp bolt]

finally

[leaden sierra]

But shield bros got HP?

[crisp bolt]

done with this shit

[graceful parrot]

Need arts dmg to really kill em

[leaden sierra]

Congrats

[crisp bolt]

only took me 6 hours

[leaden sierra]

So is the reflect arts or the same damage type?

[leaden sierra]

Come again?

[graceful parrot]

Uhh, I don't actually recall

[remote perch]

Golems reflect a fixed 200 Arts dmg

[crisp bolt]

feels like it's been that long but the event has only been out for what? 4 hours?

[leaden sierra]

That explains why shield bros lose. They got low attack and weak to arts.

[royal lichen]

lost on stage 8 again

👏

hate cannot

[leaden sierra]

This entire event is an enemy stat review quiz, and I kept overestimating collapsals. Turns out outside D15 they're trash.

[royal lichen]

The FLANK

[full terrace]

In d15 they are also garbage 😏

[royal lichen]

FLANKING MANUEVER

[graceful parrot]

9/10 won every all in, sigh

[leaden sierra]

welcome to the club

Can the crocodiles kill the golem?

[royal lichen]

The crocs can if they manage to live to surround it

[full terrace]

I would take Golem

[royal lichen]

which is pretty likely

[leaden sierra]

Sounds about right. He's very dead.

[royal lichen]

monkaS

why is it always this close near the end

[glass monolith]

Double flank!

[royal lichen]

GOD

[graceful parrot]

Who won this

[leaden sierra]

probably blue, the sluggy proc is death

[crisp bolt]

they ignored the slug

garbage sarkaz swordmen

[graceful parrot]

I just saw some roadblocks on a map! wow

[leaden sierra]

decoration

[glass monolith]

2 colossus versus 40 dogs, yea fuck my life

[graceful parrot]

I just watched 31 barely kill 1

2 will win

[leaden sierra]

2 colossus

[glass monolith]

i don't care they win, i care there is no 8x speed setting

[graceful parrot]

Yup

14 boxer vs 14 shieldbearer

[leaden sierra]

Which boxer?

[graceful parrot]

Master Boxer

[leaden sierra]

lol, no even close. Those guys don't have the damage. Shield all the way.

[graceful parrot]

If they were gators, maybe

They did kill one

[leaden sierra]

gators would have to get good RNG to team. I'd still bet on shields.

[graceful parrot]

Colossus should two shot these right?

[leaden sierra]

Hmm. Kinda close. Swords!

[graceful parrot]

💎 👐

[spark sinew]

those casters are anything but trash

swordsmen also hit surprisingly hard

[graceful parrot]

collossus needs to three shot, swords won

I have zero faith in either of these

[leaden sierra]

dogs run straight and get destroyed. Then it is 14 mid ice mages vs 20 swordmen. What you think?

[graceful parrot]

Dogs probably get out to die too quick for the the mages to capitalize

yeah

[leaden sierra]

[graceful parrot]

Man, this Arknights Autobattler is awesome

[leaden sierra]

gl

Ofc right. You picked right, right?

[mighty tangle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586588921614303233/1356689248526401596/Ceobe_wife_gambling_food_nom.gif

[haughty shadow]

don't like either side

[graceful parrot]

Gators lost

[graceful parrot]

I’d go right, those crossbow boys won’t have a shield forever

That said could be the wrong call

[leaden sierra]

collapsal run and kinda help, but die like the fools they are. Boxers survive and kill archers and then mages vs 5 guys. Probably mages.

[graceful parrot]

Yeah 30 vs 29 does make a diff too

[haughty shadow]

right side won

[graceful parrot]

Oof, sorry

was it the reflect

[haughty shadow]

the running guys didn't rush and come alongisde the boxers so they all piled up on left

[leaden sierra]

yeah, the spawn RNG is a big factor

I'll go get myself my tea.

[leaden sierra]

I don't remember if who's moving faster pompei or those fat guys. Either way angry Sarkaz probably win. They can lose especially if the 2 pompeis are far from each other and make them do extra running, in which case Pompei will melt shields.

[leaden sierra]

depends on the spawn lol.

[leaden sierra]

casters are far apart. Crocos have a chance. Right! (gl)

[little ravine]

the prophet

[leaden sierra]

I've lost to that so many times, that was just luck man.

[little ravine]

can crocs beat the spiky rock creatures ?

[leaden sierra]

no way. Mortars hit the reflect and die. DEF down is useless on high HP regen boys. 98% sure right. But i guess they're decent vs spiky guys, the problem is, they're fighting the red dudes first. 5 Mortarts is OP tho. Maybe if Mortars kill red first OW, that could work

[little ravine]

i feel like this one sound be right side cause AOE caster and the armor shred would you agree ?

[leaden sierra]

the archer boys have decent hp, if they kill the slugs the right loses. The casters have to kill them quick. If the right casters are close then right, otherwise maybe left if slugs can be killed. Get a feel for it. I'd honestly bet on Golems, they're just built different (but that's personal bias).

[slate lodge]

any tips?

[spark sinew]

right likely demolish?

[leaden sierra]

That's pretty close, but feels like golems will be frozen solid.
Here's what I see: Collapsals run and die, but make time for 1-2 hits from casters. Top is destoried, menahile down below caster kills crocs. Sadly, after the caster is killed the ice wizards freeze the golems, and right wins.

[spark sinew]

is4 guys are complete garbage, so it's golems (that will get frozen) and casters (that might die but who knows)

[leaden sierra]

I keep saying, they're tuned for D15, but not for this hehe

[novel vine]

who wins

[leaden sierra]

right!!

[smoky laurel]

i think left

just cause there's a lot more of em

[novel vine]

always bet against jesselton

[bright stone]

which side wins

[smoky laurel]

say that again?

[novel vine]

always bet against jesselton

[smoky laurel]

if you want to lose bruh

[slate lodge]

saw this late...

[leaden sierra]

wait, that's not jess winning. That's the reflect boys tanking all the slugs. Bet on reflect boys, not jessy.

[smoky laurel]

still, jesselton is on their side. therefore, he wins

[novel vine]

yeah cause hes a grifter

[leaden sierra]

technically true

[bright stone]

which side?

[novel vine]

[smoky laurel]

i would bet on avengers but don't take my word for it

[novel vine]

most lopsided mu ever

[leaden sierra]

left no question

[bright stone]

yea avengers destroyed

[smoky laurel]

whoever did basepoint CC knows

those who know..

[mint sage]

does rock even lose in that event

[smoky laurel]

LOL

[novel vine]

power of teamwork

[leaden sierra]

Folinic flashbacks.

[brisk surge]

teamwork definitely loses here

[smoky laurel]

pompei is a fraud

[mint sage]

any guesses here?

[leaden sierra]

boxers run ahead and get destroyed by mortars and Sarkaz. Then casters shoot the tanks and Sarkas, but all pointless cause mortars clear the map. Left!

[mint sage]

You were actually on point, thx 😄

[bright stone]

which side?

[crisp bolt]

2nd max all in win

[brisk surge]

i cant win because i believe in slugs too much

[crisp bolt]

I had Jesselton win 3 times this run

it was funny

[bright stone]

no, they lost

[crisp bolt]

pompeii is fraud

[bright stone]

wouldve won if they kept attacking the backliners

[brisk surge]

pompeii is fraud until it isnt

[leaden sierra]

see, you're getting better at this. Soon you won't have to even play the game, you can run the simulation under that dark cannot mask, eyes closed, and everything.

[maiden hound]

left or right

[leaden sierra]

left

[bright stone]

who wins this

[pure orchid]

jess is a fraud and shields rule the world

[bright stone]

casters wiped

[pure orchid]

who

there are 2 casters

[bright stone]

the ones on left

aoe took out all the shields and then the enemy casters

[pure orchid]

oh i forgot those are aoe

[spark sinew]

wtf

jess too op

[crisp bolt]

that's 3

[bright stone]

how

ive been doing this for 5 hrs straight

still cant get past like 7

[crisp bolt]

I've also been doing it for hours

[bright stone]

keep on losing on the first one too

got no clue what most these enemies do

all i know is they get destroyed by wisadel

[pure orchid]

The brain rot has set in 🥹

[crisp bolt]

does walter get deleted by reflect golems?

[pure orchid]

Not if she one shots them as the reflect is per hit basis

[bright stone]

wiki says max 6 reflect golems, they do 200 arts each and have 25k hp, so yes
can just add shu and eyja alter ig

[spark sinew]

she does

[pure orchid]

degen and yato are immune during s3 so they a popular solution

[crisp bolt]

I don't play RA so

[spark sinew]

you just slap ng 🫡

[crisp bolt]

my ng has no s3 masteries

[spark sinew]

if you're early/pre expansion, the soup or whatever is good

like 20 base res

[unkempt lintel]

[crisp bolt]

you know people in #help told me to s3m3 her like 2 years ago

and I still haven't done it

4

[steady moth]

Finally

[leaden sierra]

do we get something for doing 999... multiple times? Whatcha girnding?

[steady moth]

I kept fucking losing by a hair on battle 9

So irritating

[crisp bolt]

useless flex points

[leaden sierra]

understandable, have a wasted day

[steady moth]

Just knowing the enemies well enough and what their approximate stats are and how they match up is enough to consistently get 8+ win runs.

[brisk surge]

9/10

[wraith lark]

can someone help me with vector break through? not quite sure what buffs i want but im stuck on the 6th/8 stages here are my units
https://krooster.com/u/bingtard but i also have zuo le mod 3now

[leaden sierra]

Zuo and lines (or any fast redeploy) can duo Vec-6 easy. Which vec buffs you have for now?

[wraith lark]

i just completed all the buffs once

im not sure what buffs i want to pick

i left the buffs after

i struggle to do those as well

i think logos can solo someof them

but its annoying because i cant use the unit after

[leaden sierra]

getting the buffs locks some units. You preferably want to keep the stronger ones for Vec-8

[wraith lark]

which buffs do you recomend i try andget and what units do i try and save

[smoky halo]

just get all the buffs

the camo one is pretty broken for vec7

[leaden sierra]

given your units and target to clear VEC-08 probably VEC-SP04, VEC-SP02, VEC-SP01, VEC-SP08 ordered based on priority.

[wraith lark]

alright ill try

do i try and keep zuole

[leaden sierra]

Can your mountain solo VEC-SP02?
Yeah, keep your stronger units for the last challege.

[wraith lark]

im guessing no because hes e1 but i can try it i tried to solo clesrit with jessica alter before and it wasnt very close

[leaden sierra]

eh? I think she's overkill. Even with lower investment.
Try mountain+healer. Or maybe he doesn't have enough damage.
You gotta test em out, hard to figure out if it is doable from just looking at the levels.

[wraith lark]

really my mountain just got clapped by the homeless dudes

do i have that much skill issue

[leaden sierra]

how many hits do they take to kill him?

[wraith lark]

it is a 1unit stage

[wraith lark]

like 4

[leaden sierra]

right, my bad, confused with VEC-SP04.

[full terrace]

Pour all your resources on the SP stages, make sure you activate all the buffs. Borrow Logos for the main stages.
VEC-03 #strategy message
VEC-04 #strategy message
VEC-05 #strategy message
VEC-08 #strategy message

[wraith lark]

so u want me to try and do that?

[wraith lark]

thanks, i already have logos but i kinda suck at the game 😅

[full terrace]

So watch those videos

Who are you using on the SP stages?

[leaden sierra]

Is this will all SP buffs? So basically, they can use their Zuo le and Jessica for SP clearing and Logos for VEC-08. That's pretty cool.

[full terrace]

For SP04, Zuo Le can solo #strategy message Mlynar can solo #strategy message but I dont think an underdeveloped one could make it, at least M3 their skills.

[full terrace]

They can use everything for the SP stages, as long as the buffs are activated, Logos can carry. I always recommend newbies to do that.

[leaden sierra]

they're probably better off just putting a cheap defended near the blue box instead of S3 M3. At least for SP04.

[full terrace]

Mlynar cant, he needs to stand on a neutral tile, not the swamp tile. Zuo Le possibly can, can give it a try.

[crisp bolt]

I got scammed

pompeii killed the guy but died and it counted as loss

[formal creek]

Hmm okay

[hexed gust]

Left or right

[slate jackal]

left!

[hexed gust]

Pompeii wasn't a scam right won

[slate jackal]

is there a database with the outcomes of matchups to make predictions from, perhaps from the CN server? would be really useful

[crisp bolt]

nah some of these are RNG

[leaden sierra]

I think he means we can get odds (probability of victory) if we run the simulation a lot of times and collect the data.

[crisp bolt]

good luck with that

[limpid ore]

if you see the other students who already bet on which side, you can pretty much predict that side chance of winning

[leaden sierra]

Students are a lie, never listen!!!!

[limpid ore]

chance my man

[full terrace]

I see 4 students betting one side, I bet against them 😏

[slate jackal]

I probably attempted about a 100 times with chatgpt/deepseek but the predictions are thrash, considering making a excel sheet to record the results for better predictions

[full terrace]

Chatgpt LMAO

[leaden sierra]

It is a week-worth event that we can replay once a year, not worth it man. Do that on actual stocks at that point.

[elder flume]

Does stock bet on enemies dying too

[full terrace]

Rain 100/100

🤣🤣

[leaden sierra]

I mean people bet on football games all the time.

[full terrace]

You dont wanna bet against Rain, he cant fail #strategy message

[slate jackal]

my idea is make a excel table to give the prediction when you input the combination and quantity, and then you can select who actually won and that data would be recorded, future predictions would then use that datapoint and slowly get more accurate. How long does this event run anyway?

[elder flume]

The funny thing is your framerate can fuck up the actual winning result

Shit device moment

Prob a week like usual

[leaden sierra]

so basically a database that saves search logs and some responses attached to them. Making an editable google sheet would work in an ideal world, but giving editing rights to everyone is a formula for disaster.
Making a front end is the second laziest alternative. Like those heroku projects.

[full terrace]

Yah framerate might mess things up, I won a Golem vs 3 stun dudes and someone said his Golem lost because it got stunlocked.

[weak gazelle]

well yeah, most of the time frame rate is the cause
like why auto arent stable :ya:

[limpid ore]

that time when 90 enemies appear at once during the match

yeah

[slate jackal]

The plan is to use google forms to collect/fill the sheet with and give predicted winner and confidence before you submit who actually wins, will try playing around with it tomorrow

[leaden sierra]

Can forms actually perform search queries and provide dynamic responses? If so, then yeah sounds very doable. I'm guessing it allows for API integration.

[rich plover]

Uhhh ermmmm

[tall sierra]

This april fool event pissed me off

[rich plover]

Plausible?

[slate jackal]

supposedly, lets see

[leaden sierra]

do you have the -2 weight relic?

[weak gazelle]

what difficulty?

[rich plover]

Nay

[full terrace]

True Damage > Teleport > Shifting. Which method are you going to use against Theresis?

[smoky halo]

shift/tp better than true dmg no?

[limpid ore]

i chekced prts, and the team composition for cannot event is randomly generated

[smoky halo]

cos u take less dmg if theresis is away from theresa too

[full terrace]

If you cant use any of those methods, you will deal with 90% Damage Reduction.

[full terrace]

No

[rich plover]

Closest I have is Weedy

[smoky halo]

why

[limpid ore]

https://prts.wiki/w/IM-2_失足落水

there is no set team

[leaden sierra]

he has a weight of 5, how they moving him with E1 Weedy?

[rich plover]

Shiet, he's fat

[limpid ore]

-2 weight relic, +2 shift force relic, weightless relic

🤌

send him to the moon

[leaden sierra]

there's just 1 problem

[limpid ore]

should have rob cannot for free money and relics

[full terrace]

I tried all 3 methods. True Damage is best coz it completely ignores the DR. Teleport 2nd coz you need a strong dps plus Shu to pull Theresis to his maximum distance from Theresa, lowering his DR to 35% DR (lowest he can go). Shift least efficient because 1. You need very specific Relics 2. You need Shifters built 3. It doesnt even reach the maximum 35% DR unless you are using multiple shifters while abusing the shift tiles down there.

[limpid ore]

there is 4th method, leak theresis during his first phase

[smoky halo]

well phys/arts deal more than true dmg so even with 35% dr factored they still deal more no?

[full terrace]

The cursed method 😏

[smoky halo]

the best true dmg is like kal

[rich plover]

Guess I have to get lucky

[smoky halo]

the multiple ops tax on shifters i get tho

ya it kinda suck if u need multiple ops

[limpid ore]

true damage issue is, no dmg multiplier, scale directly on atk, low scaling, etc
so yeah

[full terrace]

Amiya S3M3 1 cycle both Theresis and Patriot, so I dont really believe in the "Arts and Phys are better even with DR"

[leaden sierra]

nah dude, just make sure to have 118 relics when you get to him instead of 18. Who needs true damage when you can just have a LOT of damage.

[full terrace]

I mean, she is already a pretty cheap option and she works even without C.Eterna

[smoky halo]

huh how much hp does theresis have

amiya s3m3 is like 60k ish total dmg

[full terrace]

So for me True Damage is better.

500k I believe

[smoky halo]

w/ tech tree thats x1.2

how do u go from 72k ish total dmg to killing 500k hp

[full terrace]

At d15 it's 500k-ish k minus the HP relics if you got them

[weak gazelle]

lower difficulty amiya should be able 1 cycle theresis
i forgot which d tho

should be lower than 7

[full terrace]

Relics mostly but I have tested it and it works, I didnt record a Theresis one, but she works on Patriot with similar HP and on similar DR here #strategy message

Actually I did record but she was mixed with Kaltsit

Lemme find it

[smoky halo]

huh patriot DR is 80% tho

if u have giga relic then other options become better no?

ray with like huge atk and sp just becomes better even with 35% dr no?

[rich plover]

Forgot to share, but my relics

[smoky halo]

🚬

[rich plover]

Also, pretty sure you can't change difficulty for Storyteller List?

[smoky halo]

the only benefit of true dmg is that it doesnt require setup

[full terrace]

This is the recording #strategy message. Also thats not necessarily true. I mean unless you are abusing meta like Wis, the difference between TD and Arts/Phys is quite noticeable. You gotta understand that the "Giga Relics" still havent included C.Eterna. if I include that, True Damage is clearly the winner. Also in my Patriot case with only 80% DR you can see how Wis couldnt even 1 cycle Patriot, but Amiya could.

[smoky halo]

well ya cos 80% dr is much higher than 35% dr

im talking abt theresis tho

and yes if u get CE then true dmg wins

im just talking abt generally applicable relics like +atk

or +aspd

[full terrace]

I mean, those Relics benefit both worlds? Like Empty Fowlbeast can be used by both Wis and Kalt. And the Scout Scope by both Amiya and Wis? I dont quite get the Arts/Phys > True Damage angle really.

[smoky halo]

its just they have bigger number to begin with that they still win even with 35% dr

[full terrace]

Well I mean if that method suits you better, players have different playstyles 😅

[remote perch]

I think he means is that Because Arts/Phy have better base number, they get stronger faster with general relics than True dmg improves from general relics

True Dmg only getting ahead when they get specific relics like CE

[full terrace]

For me tho, I dont specifically count if dmg is slightly higher or slightly lower, I count based on the efficiency, for example, I know Amiya S3M3 can 1 cycle it, if say, Wis also 1 cycle it, then for me Wis = Amiya in this case because both operators will kill their targets in 1 cycle. Unless one of them takes like 2 cycles, then the worth of both operators for me on that particular purpose is the same.

I mean I'm not against his playstyle but, justifying harder setup like, say, using Shu to teleport, then 1 Phys/Arts dps to kill, that already takes 2 slots at the very least, let alone the shift setup. So for me, True Damage is still the best method because you only need 1 operator.

[acoustic slate]

Someone set an alarm to wake me up before this is done, I think 6-7 hours should be good

[unkempt lintel]

[limpid ore]

jesselton is dead weight

[acoustic slate]

Left wins easy

Dogs kill the slugs, and even if slugs and dogs all kill each other, golems kill Jess

[unkempt lintel]

i mean its the matter of dogs vs slug but cant imagine

dunno if dogs will survive enuf to kill the slugs

[acoustic slate]

Slugs are bad if outnumbered. They’re only good if you can proc burn really quick

[limpid ore]

dont underestimate the sheer force of the swarm of fucking dogs

[acoustic slate]

Dogs won’t let you down as long as they have the numbers

[unkempt lintel]

ok lmao the dogs win

the stage dont even need the golems lmao

[full terrace]

Dogs move fast and they slugs are paper

Left win easy yeah

Movement speed is actually very very important in this event

[acoustic slate]

Yeah dogs often win numbers game just from movement and attack speed alone

[full terrace]

I learned that the hard way

[unkempt lintel]

hmmmm left side coz samurai tankier???

[full terrace]

My first few failures, I bet against doggoes

Coz I thought doggoes are weaker by nature

Then I got overwhelmed by their movement and attack speed

[unkempt lintel]

although the prison archers kinda weak even when released

[acoustic slate]

Idk if avenger can carry srcher and collapse soldier, those are insanely dead weight

[unkempt lintel]

hmmm ig imma all in to brawlers then

[full terrace]

I would say right

[limpid ore]

brawlers stonks

[unkempt lintel]

yep

[full terrace]

The dodge of those bouncers are actually worth Shieldguards 😂😂

[unkempt lintel]

the archers and collapse so useless

[full terrace]

Collapsals are completely useless yea

[unkempt lintel]

gad i hate the times when u trust with those archer prisoners

[full terrace]

I dont think I have seen a scenario where it wins

[unkempt lintel]

lmao jess and pomp in same team

i trust the witches but they kinda slow to do their thing so ig right one got this

and i have times i underestimate the tankiness of arclight

[full terrace]

Right win easy there

[full terrace]

Archer prisoners are good if they can dps without getting disturbed

So in a scenario like

They have tanks in front of them shielding them

Or

They outrange their targets

[unkempt lintel]

[full terrace]

Those archers go into frenzy mode after awhile

[unkempt lintel]

thats why u dont go all in folks

[full terrace]

Thats where their worth is at

[unkempt lintel]

anyway the witches wins

[acoustic slate]

Don’t go all in? Weird combination of words, I don’t understand

[full terrace]

#strategy message

😏

[full terrace]

You go all in all the way from 1~10

[unkempt lintel]

but then again

we still bet with 60 and all in anwyay

[leaden sierra]

that's the motivation! Keep going

[unkempt lintel]

but maaan... those sarkaz tanky enuf to kill pompei and jess with witches huh

[scarlet fulcrum]

I love brawler croc, they built different

[full terrace]

Witches worth is in their Arts and AoE

They are paper tho

I love brawlers too lmao

Dodge is something else

And they move fast too

So against a team of ranged units

They just close the distance instantly

[unkempt lintel]

i do love this but they need someone to tank

[full terrace]

Yeah exactly

[wary imp]

right?

[unkempt lintel]

so ig what i dont consider is having large of sarkaz soldiers enuf to tank jess and pompei

[full terrace]

If no tanks they are just eh..

[full terrace]

Left

[scarlet fulcrum]

funny to watch

[wary imp]

hmm ok

[leaden sierra]

right has a chance tho, sword guys don't have that much defense.

[scarlet fulcrum]

Plastic knights always fraud

[full terrace]

Plastic knights fraud yea

[wary imp]

nope, they just cc#12 flashbacks when under half hp

[leaden sierra]

nice

[wary imp]

ok now this

left?

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yeah obv

[leaden sierra]

yeah, they bully jessy

[scarlet fulcrum]

Brawler croc the strongest in this game mode

[unkempt lintel]

the ranged ones so tanky for few seconds but dmg so pew pew

[leaden sierra]

I love them tho, they can tank some before golems catch up and then they sit comfortably at the back doing completely nothing.

[tall sierra]

Brawler croc lose to 4 mortar...

[full terrace]

Brawler lifeguards > brawler crocs 😏

I hate all dodging enemies with passion

[tall sierra]

The reflect monster is weak vs high dmg dealer like red weeb or jedi

[leaden sierra]

they do walk slow yeah, movement is speed is important.

[full terrace]

I mean they are not the Stultifera Navis fish but still very annoying

[scarlet fulcrum]

Brawler weak to mostly to arts so yea, reflect golem is bad match

[wary imp]

plastic knight sucks
right?

[full terrace]

Wait

[leaden sierra]

ooo, the archer will tank

[limpid ore]

3 against 2 hmmm

[full terrace]

The possessed enemies will land on the Plastic shields

And while they do that

[tall sierra]

Golem is the pinacle of all tho sometime weak to swarm of slug spits

[unkempt lintel]

id go with pompei ngl

i trust they tanky enuf to shit those ranged soldiers when shield down

[scarlet fulcrum]

High Res Pompeii go figure

[full terrace]

Casters will kill the possessed

[wary imp]

possessed also get -HP over time

[full terrace]

Then it will be Pompeiis vs Plastics + Casters

[tall sierra]

The aoe caster is ur best swarm killer

[leaden sierra]

then pompei kill archer and caster

[wary imp]

not really

[full terrace]

Right, and the Plastics have fixed time

Shields are up

[tall sierra]

Swarm of wolf can kill pompeii

[scarlet fulcrum]

Pompeii has decent Res dw

[wary imp]

ok

[leaden sierra]

3 pompei vs 7 caster, they good

[full terrace]

I would take right but idk

[wary imp]

aight

[leaden sierra]

the bets are on

[scarlet fulcrum]

I will take left

[full terrace]

7 casters plus the plastics

[wary imp]

left won guys

[tall sierra]

Pompeii has very high art res

[modern plover]

Left wins cause pompeii stalls out plastic shield

[full terrace]

Alright congrats to you

[tall sierra]

Weak vs physical

[modern plover]

Plastic deals 0 dmg anyway

[leaden sierra]

Pompei supremacy

[wary imp]

ok they got dogs

[tall sierra]

Even 3 pompeii got tear apart by a mere horde of dogs

[full terrace]

Pompeii is a fraud 😏

[tall sierra]

Jessy cant take on jedis

[leaden sierra]

right?
Shields eat dogs and can tank red dudes.

[wary imp]

dont forget the junkman has HP regen

right?

[full terrace]

Left should be better. Golem can 1 vs 9 the Shielders. Dogs and Slugs kill each other

[leaden sierra]

Slugs will take care of them dw

[full terrace]

So you got Fanatics vs Casters

[limpid ore]

left all in

[tall sierra]

Junkman i think strong against swarm but weak to hard hitter, and also has good art res

[scarlet fulcrum]

I will take right

[leaden sierra]

a frozen golem is a useless golem

[wary imp]

the casters might just freezelock the junkmans

and golem

[chilly glacier]

I would go with ice mages

[full terrace]

Fanatics will obliterate them

[scarlet fulcrum]

Surely they will deal 200k dmg in time

[tall sierra]

Beach Boxer is a fraud

[wary imp]

dont forget they got 9 casters

[tall sierra]

Not dodging

[maiden hound]

doesnt the boxer only dodge phys

[scarlet fulcrum]

yea

[leaden sierra]

only after 50% HP, they can get one shot.

[tall sierra]

Last time i put him face against golem, not 1 dodge golem punch

[modern plover]

Left may won if large amount of slugs are dead
But its rng so idk

[tall sierra]

The volcano slug is good against tanky enemy but they all die in 1 hit

[wary imp]

ok

[full terrace]

Left win easy but it's his game so

Two Golems who got dps for them?

[tall sierra]

Just need 3 all in win to get maxed ingots

I almost lose to 2 jesselton

Betting 2 golem

[scarlet fulcrum]

Jess phase2 quite tanky yea, wek to arts

[tall sierra]

2 jesselton + forgot who was it... I think it was dogs

[full terrace]

I remember Jessel soloed 9x Kristen swordies

[scarlet fulcrum]

The hp still low af tho, like elites

[tall sierra]

The jedis are quite tanky

Vs reflect or jess

[scarlet fulcrum]

Reflect golem is arts so

[wary imp]

it isnt

[tall sierra]

It kinda funny volcano or boxer fight against reflect golem

[leaden sierra]

arts is actually their weeker spot, but they have enough HP to survive.

[scarlet fulcrum]

I guessed right then

[leaden sierra]

Slugs melted the golems?

[full terrace]

How isnt? Right side got no dps for the Golems, and Fanatics move faster than the Golems. Meaning the Fanatics vs Casters will take place first before Golems vs Casters 😑

[tall sierra]

It completely remove golem armor

But the golem still has big chunk of hp

[scarlet fulcrum]

Defender stall golem and slugs kill golem

[somber falcon]

shieldguards:

[tall sierra]

Once the armor is removed, the golem become weak to swarm of dogs

[scarlet fulcrum]

Its like quartz without dr

[tall sierra]

Mortar sometime win sometime lose to swarm

[full terrace]

Nah slugs and dogs destroy each other

[scarlet fulcrum]

Mortar vs reflect golem kinda troll

[full terrace]

Shieldguards make sense, but I think it's still Golems win easy

[somber falcon]

slugs will stand still a bit while attacking

[tall sierra]

Aoe caster destroy swarms

[somber falcon]

dogs meets shieldguards first

[wary imp]

yes

[scarlet fulcrum]

[full terrace]

Shieldguards are slow, slugs probably in front of them to greet the dogs first

[scarlet fulcrum]

CC daily flashback

[tall sierra]

The machine gun caster feel weak

[leaden sierra]

even if they didn't I know 4 out of sync ice casters can perma freeze the golems.

[somber falcon]

there's only like 8 slugs in front of them

[tall sierra]

Oh right

[somber falcon]

still 14 behind

[scarlet fulcrum]

22 slugs supremacy

[tall sierra]

I won a fight with 3 golem vs 2 jess + a few machine gun caster

Bet on golem xD

[scarlet fulcrum]

300k hp indeed

[tall sierra]

Good thing jess was in sync otherwise the golem lose

[azure roost]

@willow sun

got logos

[willow sun]

on your alt?

wait gotta change my name

not eos anymore

[azure roost]

wtf

i prob save pulls

[full terrace]

Hah this is a fun one

[willow sun]

mortars will kill themselves, idk if the left elites can outheal the ice guys but they can kill sami goobers

idk i’m betting on right but it depends on healing

[dapper hedge]

Mortals gonna clear carcasses first

[full terrace]

Nah the Collapsal runners will meet the Mortars first

And get cleaned up

Then Mortars kill themselves

Then Fanatics kill Golems

[willow sun]

really? i guess they outheal

mortar presence is here insignificant

carcasses damage too piss poor to do anything to fanatics

it’s just up to whether or not fanatics can survive hitting golems

[full terrace]

Mortars role is quite significant for clearing 15 Collapsal runners

Also my alt just failed the 10th match 😒

[leaden sierra]

right, as if red dudes need any help. Those collapsals don't even have damage.

[full terrace]

??? They stall for the Golems to get close. Even Fanatics wouldnt survive Golems + Collapsal runners both without the help of Mortars. I would have picked right side if left got no Mortars smh

[leaden sierra]

Really? Don't they die from 2-3 red guy hits?

[full terrace]

Yes but they stall

Still take quite a few of hits to kill them all

[leaden sierra]

ok, say the reflect guys get close, would they actually have enough damage to outpace the regen? Maybe for like 10s, but puff, back to the same thing.
Idk, even without mortars, red dudes win I feel. But, that's trivial I guess.

[somber falcon]

@timid ruin

[full terrace]

They do because the leftover Collapsal runners are still there. Even with small damage, if they got assistance they can still be a threat. I'm not betting on 8x Fanatic vs 15x Collapsal + 6x Ice Golem

I'm only taking left because Mortars are there

[willow sun]

i really don’t think so, runners would mostly die before golems can catch up

but agree to disagree ig

[timid ruin]

what you can stand there?

[somber falcon]

What

[leaden sierra]

yes, Lappland is a stand user. She likes to "stand" there.

[agile ember]

whcih one?

[elder flume]

if all caster together then left

[acoustic slate]

Left, I think casters murk the crocs

[full terrace]

Thats a tough one but yeah I think left

[unkempt lintel]

we trust the witch

[full terrace]

Casters are good when they got tanks

[agile ember]

yea the crocs got nuked

this one? im thinking right

[acoustic slate]

No way lol

[agile ember]

so left. kk

[acoustic slate]

Never bet against golems

[pure orchid]

Nothing counter golems = ez left win

[acoustic slate]

Not true !!

[elder flume]

golem wins 3 out 7 battles for me

[acoustic slate]

But we trust golems

[pure orchid]

Theres like very few that counter golem

[elder flume]

if caster can freezelock 2 golems prob

[agile ember]

golems got perma frozen lol. right won

[acoustic slate]

Wow !!

[pure orchid]

Wow

Golems suck

[scarlet fulcrum]

Golem die to slugs and dogs usually

[acoustic slate]

I would have figured defenders can tank and kill the durins easily, then golems handle the rest

[pure orchid]

Slugs

[scarlet fulcrum]

Nasty matchup

[unkempt lintel]

sea shell tanky enuf yeh?

[agile ember]

reminds me of clash skeleton army against mini pekka

[pure orchid]

Golem when death by a thousand cuts

[full terrace]

Yeh the crabs win

Slugs hit the shields, cant proc burns

[acoustic slate]

I thought shield is physical

[full terrace]

Idk how it works either, I had this scenario before

[pure orchid]

Shield explodes to cockroach

[scarlet fulcrum]

I trust in 7k burn dmg

[full terrace]

Crabs just shot them all down one by one

[acoustic slate]

Yeah it’s just def buff

[scarlet fulcrum]

Left tbh

[acoustic slate]

I would go left just based on numbers

[civic bear]

just simulate the math

[void barn]

Which one

[pure orchid]

I think this is a jess fraud moment

[willow sun]

at first glance i wanna say right

but left is probably more likely...

[leaden sierra]

they say don't bet on jessy

[scarlet fulcrum]

Can be close match sometimes with rng tho, but mostly yea maffs

[willow sun]

the knights will run forwards and draw aggro from mortars

so casters can stay safe and snipe

[limpid ore]

this one is close call

[willow sun]

if the casters do die all that does is buff knights

[void barn]

Yup, Jess Died

[pure orchid]

Classic 🚬

[scarlet fulcrum]

Jess phase2 very weak to arts after all

[acoustic slate]

Never trust jess

[void barn]

Can anyone even beat the Rock Golems?

[elder flume]

a lot

[pure orchid]

Btw if anyone finds it funny, jess lost to 13 pugilists

[leaden sierra]

40 dogs

[scarlet fulcrum]

Slugs, dogs

[acoustic slate]

Yeah 1 golem vs 20 fire slugs or 40 dogs

You blink and golem is dead

[elder flume]

even 11 Sarkaz is enough

[acoustic slate]

Eh

[void barn]

AAAA JESS IS WINNING!!!!!!!!!!!

[pure orchid]

Wtf no way

[acoustic slate]

Insane

[pure orchid]

Jess doping before the match smh

Can we ban this cheater

[scarlet fulcrum]

A lot Caster die from aoe

[void barn]

2 of them apparently wins huh

[scarlet fulcrum]

If caster trimmed jess will win yea, ingra has no chance on 2nd phase with low berserk

[elder flume]

is Friston in recruit

[pure orchid]

Ye

Robot def guarantees

[narrow pendant]

What does guarantee you

[acoustic slate]

Guarantee is a strong word

[unkempt lintel]

guess who wins

[scarlet fulcrum]

Scammer word

[elder flume]

i got more Phonor with defender tag than Friston

[pure orchid]

Provided it doesn’t drop

[willow sun]

why is everyone surprised jess wins

[elder flume]

Its done

[willow sun]

in my experience he won more than he lost 🥹

[willow sun]

gg

[pure orchid]

Uhhh genius handsome poor

[elder flume]

its numbers issue

[willow sun]

left methinks

[narrow pendant]

🥹

[willow sun]

if weeb not getting hit they do no damage

[leaden sierra]

probably golems?

[willow sun]

if weeb getting hit they ded

shieldguards do no damage regardless

at least not to golem

[pure orchid]

Fredi

Ill come clean

[unkempt lintel]

indeed it is.... although its a close match

one golem alive with sliver of health

[pure orchid]

I claimed hh permits last month for chilchuck pots even if i already got marcille

[acoustic slate]

Surprising. Figured veins eat defenders first breakfast then golems eat avengers

[pure orchid]

I spent all 38 and got no chilchuck

[scarlet fulcrum]

#salt-mines message similar case

[pure orchid]

My lack of inhibition is eating away at me

[willow sun]

ice golems eat defenders or defenders eat themselves?

i haven't had them face off before so idk

[acoustic slate]

Same thing

Arts dmg reflects vs 0 res

And low hp iirc

[unkempt lintel]

yep indeed it is same as this one

[willow sun]

fair point

[unkempt lintel]

sliver of health but golem still pack punches so lmao

[leaden sierra]

yeah, the reflect does arts damage and they don't like arts. Easy win for reflect boys vs defenders.

[willow sun]

isn't reflect like... only a few hundred damage though? then again defenders only have like 8k hp right

[scarlet fulcrum]

Thats still more than 10k hp golem i think

[willow sun]

idk exact numbers, my brain is too biased because of IS and RA

i dont even know how much hp a mudrock golem has

if i had to guess... 50k?

[acoustic slate]

100k

[leaden sierra]

they have -50% hp in this mode, so they're actually correct (in the mode, not normally)

[acoustic slate]

Oh is that global debuff

[leaden sierra]

yeah, all "enemies" have -50% HP and I think +50% attack was it?

[scarlet fulcrum]

no wonder burn slugs very strong

[acoustic slate]

Idk first im hearing of it

[scarlet fulcrum]

7k proc

[dark mantle]

yeah thats right

[willow sun]

oh wtfart

[acoustic slate]

I trust euthy :ya:

[willow sun]

im just that good surely

[willow sun]

that makes sense, are def and res not buffed to compensate? no wonder why some of the interactions felt weird
ig they want fights over fast

[acoustic slate]

[leaden sierra]

yeah, high DEF/RES enemies are benefiting from this. Luckily we don't have those metal crabs.
Design-wise it is understandable. Considering they were meant to deal with operators, it is impressive how there are no overpowered units, except golem maybe.

[dark mantle]

nope, it's just -50% HP +50% atk

its pretty interesting but yeah it would take way longer normally

[sinful tulip]

This is left, right? I need reassurance... I'm 1 away from a perfect win

[acoustic slate]

I want to say right, but right’s main damage is slugs who will get eaten fast probably so…. Idk

Sarkaz stun guys are very strong but I don’t think they do so hot against regen guys

[leaden sierra]

Jessy actually not being useless here. Still left makes sense.

[willow sun]

i say right

[leaden sierra]

you think slugs will survive?

[willow sun]

the hammer guys can tank while the slugs deal essentially true damage against everyone on left

not to mention right has jess

two of them

hammers aren't falling to carcasses

[acoustic slate]

Hammer guys aren’t tanking shit when they’re in the back and it’s slugs vs collapse/crocs

[willow sun]

mm i think their mspd isn't THAT slow

[leaden sierra]

I change my mind, Theacc is right. Go right and prey.

[willow sun]

i said right though

[sinful tulip]

Slugs are faster than hammers?

[acoustic slate]

It is though

[willow sun]

a bit

both are pretty slow

then again slugs are ranged so they'll activate carcass early

idk i have my faith in the right

[leaden sierra]

typo

[acoustic slate]

It’s close in my head, let us know what happens

[willow sun]

ah

yea i'm curious

in my eyes even with no slugs the hammers should be able to handle all carcass with aoe and kill crocs cause p2 should reset their defense

[pure orchid]

Im not curious but i wanna know what happens

[willow sun]

[sinful tulip]

Ah fuq it, imm hope that the hammer guys can tank and prey on right

[leaden sierra]

jess's time to shine by killing reds.

[willow sun]

so...?

[acoustic slate]

Jess p2 buff surely

[sinful tulip]

Holly crap that was close

[acoustic slate]

Surely jess isn’t a fraud

[willow sun]

now

call me crazy

[leaden sierra]

yeah, not even close. GG!

[willow sun]

that doesn't look that close

[sinful tulip]

Lmao

[willow sun]

i had my faith in the hammer dudes and it paid off 🥹

[acoustic slate]

Holy shit slugs survived

[sinful tulip]

I'm surprised the slugs actually made it tbh, I though they were rinsed at the top

[leaden sierra]

hammer stun goes hard

[willow sun]

yea hammers weren't that slow

[pure orchid]

Lol not even close, jess still had p2

[willow sun]

i could've sworn

i got gaslit smh

[acoustic slate]

Happy to help

[willow sun]

[pure orchid]

You’re welcome everyone

[unkempt lintel]

i doubt they can be stopped by freeze

or are they goinna be prema freeze?

[willow sun]

depends on positioning

show full ss?

if pompeii are grouped up on a corner they lose

if in the middle or spread out they win

[pure orchid]

I think i remember pompeii winning this exact matchup

[elder flume]

Pompei shoul win regarless

[tall sierra]

It depend on position

[pure orchid]

Nope

[remote perch]

❌

[tall sierra]

If all 3 get perma freeze theyre dead

[willow sun]

nop

yea

if the pompeii are in corner

the mages will stagger

[pure orchid]

Nope

[willow sun]

if theyre spread out or in mid they attack at same time and give window of no freeze

[pure orchid]

idk bur i just wanna disagree

[willow sun]

pom should win

ya

[tall sierra]

Pom has decent art res

So i dunno

[leaden sierra]

they're together, and that counts for something.

[elder flume]

they shoulnt be able to perma freeze when sprea out imo

[acoustic slate]

Pom has crazy res, casters’ only hope is perma freeze

[pure orchid]

Hmm

I feel like pugilists sweep

[willow sun]

i believe in pugs ya

[pure orchid]

Sabers are also one of the biggest frauds ever

[willow sun]

they work well against

like

jess

if its a 6v1

🥹