strategy

[sterile drum]

all have skill m3, ng i have s2 and s3

idk i never made it past floor 2

[wicked minnow]

do you have kaltsit alpha module?

[full terrace]

Kaltsit is good in both Ending 2 and 3

[wicked minnow]

you are lacking damage a lot

[sterile drum]

i have kal mod y

[wicked minnow]

get alpha for 3 mod blocks

you can use it here

[sterile drum]

is that the x one?

[wicked minnow]

no, kaltsit has an IS specific module

it's a cheap module relatively since it costs only 3 mod blocks to max

it makes her a really chill pick for damage and medic in is5

makes her heal 2 units at a time and give monster big stat buffs when in her range

[sterile drum]

oh i didnt realize op can get more than 2 mod

[wicked minnow]

also makes him not take a deployment slot

[wicked minnow]

some ops have 3 normally like ebenholz where they got x y and delta modules. other than those 3 there's also alpha modules which are mode specific

kaltsit eunectes and angelina all have 3 modules if you include alpha modules

eun and ange mods arent out yet in en though

[sterile drum]

ic thank you. im glad it was cheap to get too

[wicked minnow]

once you e2 kal, it should help you out a lot

[pure orchid]

Once you e1 kal, it should help you out a little

[sterile drum]

at e1 what skill should i use for kal?

[maiden hound]

s2

[pure orchid]

s2

[sterile drum]

alright thank you

[stable beacon]

what is load limit ?

[pure orchid]

Ugggggghhhh

[full terrace]

Toil Limit = Load Limit

Look at that 13/16 of yours

That 16 is your Limit

[stable beacon]

Man.. What a naming sense

Other Artefact named it toil bruh

[wicked minnow]

the translation has been a little off this update but nothing too bad atleast

other than the funny -25%

[sterile drum]

wow kal really did just carry me this stage

gladiia, click, gravel is only e1. the others have e2

i also have indigo and kjera for e2 casters

[full terrace]

Your Eyja E2 yet?

Can draft that Eyja for dps

Mizuki also has decent dps

He cant lanehold tho, he is not Asca

[sterile drum]

eyja and mizuki are e2 and s3m3 skill

[full terrace]

Asca can lanehold even with 0 Block coz she just stops everything on their track with the Mov speed reduction up to 85%

[sterile drum]

no mods on either tho

[full terrace]

Mizuki has the dps but he needs someone to block for him

Then them both can emulate Asca's performance

[sterile drum]

my only block is gummy and saria

[full terrace]

They work

[sterile drum]

oka i shall take mizuki and make sure to pair him with a block

then what collectable?

[full terrace]

Generally +18 initial SP is better

In some stages where you have no safe space to deploy due to Spines (applies Necrosis and drains your SP)

With Initial SP you can deploy and then use skill right away

To clean up the crowd

But

[sterile drum]

ah so with pinecone to clear them?

[full terrace]

If you do Ending 2 for example, the DP cost can be massive

With Pledge of Babel

Also if you get Commerce Epoch

The -6 DP is nice

[full terrace]

Yeah that works

[sterile drum]

i dont think ill be making very fair im at 1 life rn

[full terrace]

Eh 1 life is the play

In IS5 you'd want your Life to stay at 1

But has a lot of shields

[sterile drum]

yeah i see many struggles since i dont have good spec op

[full terrace]

Yeah well Specialists are precious

[sterile drum]

and i lack snipers if they help in any way too

[full terrace]

Ah Sniper is whatever

One Wisadel is enough

[sterile drum]

no wisadel

[full terrace]

Borrow her when you start

You can borrow the entire squad

When you start

[sterile drum]

i didnt know you could borrow other op

i will see how far i get and search into that

[full terrace]

Start like this

This is a stable start

Unless it's d15 then its not that stable

[sterile drum]

what is d15

[full terrace]

Dont shy away from borrowing

I have Wisadel and I still borrow a max pot one 😏

[full terrace]

Difficulty 15. In IS5 that'd be Facing Soul 15

[full terrace]

You can borrow all of them btw

[sterile drum]

i should really reread all the is stuff again

[full terrace]

I dont mind people asking 😅

But yeah read them yourself would give better understanding

[scarlet fulcrum]

Also dont forget to upgrade tech tree, very useful for ur progress

[willow sun]

is the infographic good

[sterile delta]

looks fine to me

did they confirm orienteering banner operators yet anyways

[marble parrot]

Nvm

I think the last slot for the 3rd pick could honestly be anyone

Imma be real

[sterile delta]

not really, vivi/eben are much lower than saileach/hoe

[willow sun]

not yet but i'm just making it as a placeholder

[full terrace]

It's okay but it seems combat-oriented

[sterile delta]

what else is it gonna be oriented towards

[astral cosmos]

because it's supposed to be

[willow sun]

i mean vivi and eben are also mainly combat, and sail... well ines is on the banner

[astral cosmos]

looks gud

[willow sun]

so i kinda just shafted them behind hoederer

[astral cosmos]

ah yes vivi "combat"

[willow sun]

bonus executor woaw because i was bored (dont ask why his hair is so blue)

[astral cosmos]

as in try to do some damage before dying immediately

[wicked viper]

hoe should be better than viviana nowadays

his module is essentially an all stat up for him

while viviana is just

[full terrace]

Ebenholz and Saileach are both good for 243 Base setup, former requires PI team, latter is good in cc. And no, Vivi and Eben suck in combat.

[wicked viper]

worse yu

by good for 243

it means exodia set up

[willow sun]

as for the 5*, i just thought mul/melanite are kinda pointless
spuria is, well, spuria
aroma at least has good base skill
greyyalt/rockrock are good

[wicked viper]

which is not something i suggest

[marble parrot]

I mean, her new mod makes her not terrible

Right?

[wicked viper]

nope

still no use case

[sterile delta]

improves her kit but still not worth at all

[marble parrot]

Bruh

[willow sun]

i mean the infographic's mainly made for newbies, i doubt pulling for 6* will be an option

i didn't want to start an argument

[wicked viper]

rockrock is just consolation prize if no logos

[astral cosmos]

u are not raising 6* just for base if they're generally still mid in combat 🥹

[marble parrot]

What use case does Hoe have over Vivi

[sterile delta]

is5

[wicked viper]

IS5

[marble parrot]

But thats it?

[wicked viper]

but turn out

[sterile delta]

also hes just generally more usable

[wicked viper]

well

1 use case > 0 use case

[marble parrot]

[wicked viper]

but even in general content

after module

s1 hoe is pretty glod

since he is way tankier

s3 is a decent burst option too ig

while viviana s3 is barely a burst skil

[astral cosmos]

vivi is sadder than i thought
her shield doesnt even help her against ch11 artillery cars bc all their attacks are ranged 🥹

[full terrace]

??? The question is about whether pulling on the banner is good or not. If they get Saileach and Ebenholz, they still have use case is my point.

[sterile delta]

buddy its an orienteering banner they arent offbannering saileach or ebenholz

[marble parrot]

I dont think Sail really has a use case for most ppl

[astral cosmos]

yeah, and instead of getting ops with a mild use case you'll bench forever and raise in five years, you would rather save for actually good banners

[wicked viper]

i dont think you would actively try to hunt saileach or eben

[sterile delta]

if you're putting them on the banner you shouldnt be pulling to begin with

[marble parrot]

Esp when a much cheaper option of Sail exists and is easier to optain

[wicked viper]

or you know

just use agent

lol

and no
this is not about ines

[marble parrot]

That too

[wicked viper]

literally cantabile/surfer are both better

[marble parrot]

Or just...gen dp with fang

Quite shrimply

[willow sun]

what the hell brah 🥹

[astral cosmos]

pulling on orienteering and coping "hey maybe i'll get eben or saileach" was not a level of copium i was expecting today

[sterile delta]

but yes theacc infographic looks good

[wicked viper]

tbh

its likely wont change

outside of eben/saileach/viviana line up

because reminder

[marble parrot]

They replaced one of our JO's before

[wicked viper]

orienteer was supposed to be a TFTW replacement because we didnt get a new chapter release

[willow sun]

i was just making it as basic as possible, i could always just add a link to more in depth in case they want to check the other ops out

[marble parrot]

But that was cause Suzu got sent to Kernel

[wicked viper]

so a logos/ines/hoederer TFTW got replaced with a banner with more options

so logos/ines/hoederer likely wont change

also i mean lol

viviana and hoederer are very close to release date, so not a time problem

[glass monolith]

Viviana has Surtr being thrown at issue and if Surtr did job nobody will repeat with Viviana because it won't be new record, just repeat of existing record

Or arkrec include all combination of operators as record

[wicked viper]

heres the thing

ok if you want to argue that he is used for maleknight
i mean lol

[full terrace]

Pulling on Orienteering was for Logos and Ines as the infographic said, and in case they didnt get those 2, it's fine if they get Sail and Eben if they followed what the chart said is what I'm saying. Honestly what I didnt expect today was an inability to cope with bad pulls. Or was it because of comprehension issue?

[sterile delta]

how exactly are they getting sail or eben if they're selecting ines/logos/hoe

[wicked viper]

is this a doubling down

you get to pick the rate up unit, so saileach and eben can be not rate up

[full terrace]

Who knows? Thats what the chart said

It could meant something like Hoe is optional or something

[sterile delta]

...thats, not what it means at all

[wicked viper]

so its a doubling down and you dont know how orienteer work?

[sterile delta]

it just means ines/logos is the main pair you're looking for + hoe as your third choice

[wicked viper]

this is generally a newbie banner to pull anyway

if you play like 6 months before

or before/during wisadel

i would expect you to have wisadel or logos or both

to which you wouldnt pull it in the first place

its fairly unlikely that a newbie would have hoederer but not logos/ines

then they would pick something else

[full terrace]

Thats what I meant with Hoe being optional? There are 6 units shown there, chartmaker could be anticipating that Hoe is being on par with the other units and swappable

[wicked viper]

but its very unlikely that eben or saileach be useful for baseskills for newbie who wont have 90% of the units used for set up

[sterile delta]

what?

[wicked viper]

huh?

[full terrace]

???

[sterile delta]

what are you even trying to say

[wicked viper]

hoederer is better than viviana/saileach/eben here

wdym

they are not on par

[sterile delta]

hoederer is clearly segregated from the ines/logos and from the other three

[glass monolith]

Lowest operator count to clear. Hoeder can stun cheese several enemies. The end

[wicked viper]

well

even without his stun gimmick

he is a decent stat stick too

[full terrace]

I disagree on that, but you do you. Base units worth more than some units I wouldnt be using personally. It's not like Ulpianus doesnt exist.

[glass monolith]

I use operators because I have 12 squad slots and I will use 12 squad slots

[wicked viper]

what

are you aware

in term of base unit

[sterile delta]

so uh what exactly is the roi on ebenholz or saileach

[wicked viper]

those are also awful

because you have to raise several other limite 6* for it to work

when you can literally just

run 252

is this propaganda

also no

hoederer is very much different from ulpianus

[sterile delta]

no because at least propaganda is convincing

[wicked viper]

he is actually functioning without gladiia

who knows

after module

he just become way stronger in every aspect, tankier, doing more dmg, more sustain and some support

im pretty sure

an ops that you would bring to your squad is more useful than the one you dont

[sterile delta]

tbf ulpian also functions without gladiia
and both are somewhat relic dependent in is
but their kits are completely incomparable so idk what point they're trying to make

[astral cosmos]

I have zero clue what your original point was then, so it may as well be comprehension issue
seeing your next few messages I assume it was it, but uh, I heavily disagree

[full terrace]

Disagreement is fine but the way you phrased that I kinda took it as you invalidating my take, sorry about that I lost my cool a bit. Anyway, there are 6 units shown by the chart I assume only Logos and Ines are absolute in there, with Hoederer as an optional third. But the help hivemind is yapping about Ines+Logos+Hoe being absolute, which I disagree. I mean if the context is newbie who had no dps units to go on, I could agree with that take, but the chart seems to be made for players in general. If a player who had been playing like say, 1 year and has built Ulpianus already, I couldnt for the life of me suggest Hoe for 3rd pick. At least if they pick Sail/Eben they can still be useful in Base if the person has the right combo for it. Call it 243 propaganda if you will idc, it's better than raising redundant units, and I think that just might be the chartmaker's intention all along, thats why there are 6 units shown there instead of just telling people that Ines+Logos+Hoe are absolute.

[willow sun]

it’s just an extremely simplified infographic focused on combat for newbie progression purposes wtf happened

[full terrace]

Disagreement happened, lets drop it

[astral cosmos]

wait newbie progression only?

I was assuming it was for everyone

[willow sun]

i don’t think (hope) non newbies would ask on who to pull aside from logos/ines

[full terrace]

If newbie only then I had comprehension issue and Hoe is best for 3rd pick

[willow sun]

yeah sorry i didn’t convert that properly

if they didn’t want hoe for some reason it’s probably more in depth and longer than what i could reasonably fit on the infographic anyway

if that makes sense

idk it’s 4 am i’m exhausted

i only had aroma as the third option for 5*’s for her base skill since the other 3 are just completely worthless afaik (spuria, mulberry, and melanite)

[smoky halo]

can someone bless my orienteering pulls

[willow sun]

who do you seek?

[smoky halo]

ines pots

[full terrace]

I want Ines pots too 😂

[smoky halo]

ines when the funny potgate 🥹

[willow sun]

i hope you get logos instead

actually maybe that’s what you secretly want

[full terrace]

I'm happy if I get the aspd pot at least

[willow sun]

nvm i take that back

[smoky halo]

i dont want logos pots

hes alr pot4

pot5 is like 3% dps boost

zzzzzz

idk if im even selecting logos

[astral cosmos]

I get what you mean
as theacc said this graph is meant to be a very simplified guideline, no graph conveying an idea on who to pick is absolute. if one follows the graph blindly without any consideration to what they already have, that's not the right approach lol
for newbies this makes absolute sense. if you have a better, developed roster, you will obviously start to look at what you have and adapt in function of that. regardless, Logos and Ines are the "irreplaceables" or "hardly replaceables" here due to their roles, so no matter who you have, they should still be relatively absolute imho. Hoe has competition with Ulpi for sure, Saileach's competition is so bad that honestly you shouldn't even bother, and Eben has very tough competition in his field as well. so essentially, if we rule out Ines/Logos, the rest is completely adaptable. it's just that one isn't supposed to follow the graph blindly
generally though, Hoe has better applications than Sail/Eben. but yeah if you have Ulpi, why even bother pulling Hoe

[willow sun]

eben next to logos and sail next to ines reminds me of the ray + pozy banner lol

[full terrace]

That take I agree

Now that makes a lot of sense than "this level of copium today" 🤣

[foggy grove]

i don't see anything wrong with the graph

if you are so late game you are hunting for e2 6* base slave,the chart is not for you anyhow

[pure orchid]

I am actually unironically hunting vivi

I need my eun ft/vivi mly + 1 exodia

[full terrace]

I want Ines pots but man.. I'm tight on resources for Marcille and Lappland

[pure orchid]

Nope just gamble

[full terrace]

Guess I'll try to pull one 6 Star

If I get her good, if no so be it

[scarlet fulcrum]

Hope they change the less favored ops there

[pure orchid]

Or we all get pranked and they remove ines logos

[scarlet fulcrum]

More good option to make it debatable

[full terrace]

They remove Ines Logos thats an easy skip for me

[pure orchid]

It doesnt really matter for me since i want some of the bottom 3, sail/vivi/hoe

[full terrace]

😂

Best of luck bro

[pure orchid]

Nah i need marcille first and foremost

+7% gold can wait

[full terrace]

Are you running a full PI team already?

[pure orchid]

No vivi yet

[full terrace]

Thats as good as full

How about your WP? Which Suibling you are missing

[pure orchid]

I need the 7% bro

I dont run exodia

Its pretty cringe

[full terrace]

Oh sorry I assumed you did

[pure orchid]

Nope i cycle between eun and gladiia

[glass monolith]

Time to play some IS5
... Did I just lost run because taxi filled with civilians drive into hole?

[full terrace]

AH is actually pretty nice but man

Gladiia's morale ran out faster than my daytime energy

[pure orchid]

its perfect and i have more than enough time for fia to work on proviso, sham, and tequila all within a 36h period

By the time gladiia morale run out my eun stuff is ready so its a non-issue to me

[full terrace]

If not for the the 90% fac limit tho, I would have shoved 3 AHs into one fac

[pure orchid]

2-2 split is nice enough, thats total 160%

[full terrace]

Yeah thats what I'm doing as well

[pure orchid]

Wait what how

What stage is that even

[scarlet fulcrum]

1.6 like purestream combo alone

[pure orchid]

tru thats why its fine for gladiia to die

eun combo is just better anyways

[glass monolith]

Duck stage floor 2

Car loads in HE civilians and jumps into hole

[pure orchid]

Thats fucking crazy 😭

[full terrace]

Oh yeah that one exists

It's so annoying to use Wis as well if you accidentally make the roadblock go kaboom

[glass monolith]

Wait it is bad to kill roadblock too?

Peak stage

[full terrace]

I assume the duck would run to the blue box directly without roadblock?

I just wanna kill the duck 🤣

If its like F3 F4 F5 I'm fine with it

But man, thats like what

F2

F1 is Failed Dare I think

[scarlet fulcrum]

They made stage like this more insteresting, gopnik stage also quite fun in low floor

[full terrace]

Gopnik is annoying as hell

The Ash event enemy

What is it called again

Originium tumor

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yea

And the fake topola

[full terrace]

Had to keep blocking that, and you got little to no space for the high ground units

And there are 2 freaking Spines in the middle of the map

[rapid junco]

If you can feel it,
Theresis fight basically eye of evolution fight remake

[full terrace]

Stage looks simple but you need to bring bazillion units to safely finish it

🤣🤣

[scarlet fulcrum]

haha good thing low floor stats not that huge

[weak gazelle]

duck lord early floor map.... i still dont know how to beat it :icant:

[rapid junco]

Easy
Wisa- oh, it's you

[weak gazelle]

🦶

[rapid junco]

[weak gazelle]

Ia, fund me for jesswick pulls

[rapid junco]

Naw bro, bean profile let me broke already

[weak gazelle]

i didnt even buy profile theme

[pure orchid]

Ia u look pretty today

[rapid junco]

Pls no flirting in front of arkhy

[pure orchid]

sorry...

[rapid junco]

[full terrace]

🤣

[glass monolith]

Lol, lmao

[full terrace]

Yah thats Failed Dare

The invisible henchman

Spawns on F1 most of the time when my Wis is still at E1

[glass monolith]

Got it floor 2

[full terrace]

Oh and also I think there was an unlockable for this one as well

To not lose more than 3 Life Points

I think it was

For Relic unlock iirc

I just unlocked everything so I vividly remember this one

[keen egret]

Need help, in the burning district annihilation, what the artillery is going to prioritize?

[full terrace]

Its the operator with the highest number of block count, here click on this #strategy message

[keen egret]

Thanks, no wonder my guard will get targeted even with the presence of defender

[full terrace]

If they are blocking reborn creations yeah thats normal

[glass monolith]

Long live 0 block operator abuse #strategy message

[pure orchid]

Enemies that increase block count upon block when 0 block operator:

[crystal meteor]

Help

[pure orchid]

have beanstalk bait the bondage casters

You cannot get that spike at all

Just place bodies in front of wis and call it a day

[crystal meteor]

turnsout theres only 2 casters, i thought it was so much worse

[glass monolith]

Why this bitch still has 20 seconds invulnerability and tile ban in 2v2s

[scarlet fulcrum]

Even Jessclown has 2 phase

[glass monolith]

I knew there is phase 2, I didn't account for invulnerability lasting so long that she yeet Nymph

[vocal leaf]

face off is really annoying

sometimes you really need someone like kal, so you have a tank and healer for the other operator

[scarlet mortar]

shrimply bring better ops

[glass monolith]

NO (Slaps Lunacub on field)

[scarlet fulcrum]

She always has that

The only one invul phase changed quite often only faust iirc

[flint spindle]

What other unit is good for abyssal hunter synergies besides the Abyssal hunters themselves?

Im bringing Lumen to Inmediatly unstun Specter and Healer Amiya that heals based of max hp

Anyone else?

[scarlet fulcrum]

Usually ulpian+team already enough

More like general team

U dont really need AH for him, gladiia good qol still

[flint spindle]

Yeah but im a freak and putting randoms or leaving empty in the remaining slots triggers my ocd even if its overkill, i wanna know the max potential possible

[scarlet fulcrum]

Spalter for 6s faster s3 or smt, forgot the number

[flint spindle]

For starters, anyone else that makes use of the insane max hp stats they gain? pref not defensively since i already use Lumen and Amiya

[void terrace]

I mean when i use that team i use the hunters as walls to field a lot more offensive ranged units. Another funny one is if you have enough squad space, you can take skadi and whatever atk speed buffers you have to make a goldenglow turret

[wary wing]

AH+ Sui is the ultimate brainrot

[void terrace]

Real

But lack of range

And deployment limit

I mean you get insane cooldowns from nian and spalters tallents stacking

Oh heres a good one. Mulsyse is a really good pairing with them to clone their souped up stats

She can easily spawn 5 2500hp adreana clones

Or one really big spalter clone

With this team you can aak goldenglow. You need fast hands and to use saileach and skalter on her but yes you can get turbo goldenglow

[undone raptor]

Ooo I’m interested in this team comp, who are the att speed buffers for this?

[void terrace]

Err saileach and aak work

Wanqing does something too but not very well

Any others im missing?

[wary wing]

I fail to see any damage in that team

that seems to be the problem

can't bruteforce when you have 0 damage in your team buddy

[wicked minnow]

Ch'en is enough damage. You just need to either use the roombas on boss or use silence to prevent boss from getting some of the dr attributes from the enemies. Either way, you cant brute force it without a plan

[crystal meteor]

my plan is ulpianus s3

or wisdel, i just realized he isnt playing with wisdel

he should borrow, its not like hes gonna farm that stage

[scarlet mortar]

ch'alter should mog that stage

this is a 2022 map, enemies aren't that bad

[full terrace]

Chelter should, he is using Kyostin's guide. But I wouldnt call his guide a bruteforce, there are too many steps and tactical maneuver to be called pure bruteforcing.

Should do what that Happy New Year person said by borrowing Wisadel or Ulpi instead of Chelter. Now thats bruteforce.

[vital vessel]

too bad i'm going somewhere, gonna attempt ed2+3 yellow toil d15 after i got home

no wisadel cuz fib mogged me

[lofty stag]

Out mog fib by doing d15 twink knights

[vital vessel]

wait i drafted wisadel

[lofty stag]

Don’t tell fib, it’s still count then

[burnt glacier]

Can I get some general advice or tips on Dolly’s EX fight

[glass monolith]

Kill it

[glass monolith]

I personally nuked it when it arrived right side by 1 cycling it (kill phase within single shield deplete) twice, while stalling phase 2 sheeps with some operators on left #strategy message

[weak gazelle]

who's dolly again?

[glass monolith]

Beast Lord boss from Eyja alter event

[weak gazelle]

ohh the flying sheep

destroy they shield and burst
marskman better for destroy shield fast

[burnt glacier]

Ah ok, I was trying to wear it down over time as it moved throughout the map

[weak gazelle]

after shield depleted burst with your usual comp

[burnt glacier]

Is it hit based or does it have hp?

[full terrace]

SL-EX-8?

[burnt glacier]

Ye

Wajt no

Lemme check

[full terrace]

You wanna remove Dolly's shields with the Sodas

I believe EX-8 has 150 Shields. One Soda removes 50 Shields

So 3 Sodas and he will fall to the ground

Then you dps

[burnt glacier]

My problem is my setup isnt concentrated and im just over complicating the level

I’ll try just nuking near the exit

[full terrace]

In EX-8 CM, Dolly spams the pink clouds column drop every X secs, you want to bait those cloud drops on a useless column away from your main defense line

Are you familiar with Talulah's ignition baiting?

The bait method is similar to that

As long as you avoid Dolly's clouds drop, the sheep will not be strengthened and your units will not be weakened

[burnt glacier]

Yeah I think many of my runs were losing because of that cloud drop attack

[full terrace]

Bring some FRDs like Gravel

If possible, you can also bring Vigna/Plume/Bagpipe

They help with your opening because they return all DP

[burnt glacier]

Is 6 star robot Nearl ok for dps after I drop the shield

[full terrace]

So just bait using them, you see cloud drop coming, retreat them

Then continue developing your formation

[full terrace]

After you remove his shields any form of dps is okay

Shields = Dolly got Damage Reduction

No Shields = he is paper

It doesnt have to be True Damage

[burnt glacier]

Once I get my sanity back I’ll put all these things in my strategy

[full terrace]

Best of luck

[burnt glacier]

Thx for the advice

[full terrace]

You are welcome

[stable beacon]

ending 3 is so easy compared to ending 2 bruh

[tired eagle]

Fr

[vocal leaf]

that’s always the case, its almost a tradition now, endings 2 comes with some funny/tricky mechanic to play around

[glass monolith]

Like IS2 eating x2 HP damage floor effect to miss scissors and then leak boss with 31 HP

[vocal leaf]

the healing bear, the knight’s freeze, the running priest and pulling theresis

[vocal leaf]

yeah that too, ed2 have extra relics that makes the stage easier, the one that reduces knight’s def but that also affects him when he’s on our side and the ten rings relic that reduces theresis hp

i can’t recall is4 having one, but i guess the weight/levitation relics are similar to weight relic for is5

[wary wing]

it's more the fact that when you reach 6th (if you reach 6th floor) you are usually broken in terms of kit

[vocal leaf]

that should be the same for f4-5 tho, the run is harder at the beginning

[full terrace]

It's not exactly the same for IS5. It might be true for all the previous ISes but not IS5. Lemme break it down between ending the run on F5 vs F6 in IS5:

• One more visit to Rogue Trader. With the Refresh that can be +4~10 extra Relics
• If you get 2 Shrivels at F1 and keep them all the way to F6, they go from 2 (F1) > 4 (F2) > 8 (F3) > 16 (F4) > 32 (F5) > 64 (F6). In theory the max amount you can get from F5>F6 (assuming you got only 2 at F1 and never discard any) is +32 Shrivels, which is +16 Relics.
• There is a fairly high chance of the King Relic set appearing at F6 if you havent gotten it so far.
• There is a fairly high chance of Duck-Speed Highway appearing at F6 as well, this can give you around +50~100 Ingots to boost your aspd if you are already carrying some aspd Relics on top of the 3~4 extra Relics from the Duck and co.
  Adding them all up, that is around 24+ Relics from F6 alone, and such impact is much more felt compared to all the previous ISes.

P.S. I personally think that resetting Nodes to Encounters in F6 is much better than doing regular fights/Emergency fights.

[vocal leaf]

is5 encounters are really good, especially at f5-f6, stages have no crystals there and encounters have an insane value

some might even turn into a combat anyway and it’s up to each wether to take the challenge or not

[full terrace]

I agree there

I usually try to do more Encounters than Emer fight around F5-F6

I think it might be designed that way to balance Doodle run to Talon run

[unkempt summit]

Hi, everyone, I was wondering is anyone had any advice for BB-S-4 Challenge Mode?

I cleared the normal version with great difficulty, but with those three Transverse Plates in the center X-ed out I couldnt place Ines into SA S3 to clear out the Assassins

Anyways to get around that?

[vocal leaf]

use horn or just wait for them to come and kill them one by one

[full terrace]

BB-S-4 is arguably the hardest stage from events. You need a lot of dps and a lot of burst. General idea is to let them come closer, chain them, and then burst. Opening is like this more or less #strategy message

What ops do you have btw

[unkempt summit]

In terms of Damage, I have E2 70 M9 Logos (No Module since I havent gotten to Chapter 11 yet), E2 80 S2M2 Wis'adel, and E2 70 S3M3 Ulpianus

[full terrace]

Yep thats plenty

Should be clearable

[unkempt summit]

Its mostly hust a manner of getting those Assassins revealed before they can get close to the blue box

An unbuilt Horn should be enough, right?

[glass monolith]

Sir they have 40% (seems like 85% because it is enemy) dodge when not chained. Abuse your 0 block shit - Ambushers, Dollkeepers

[scarlet mortar]

they get revealed by walking through chains

[unkempt summit]

Tbh, I forgot Horn was an option, but its simple now that I remember she exists

[full terrace]

If you could get Horn to reveal them at the middle, you can also shoot with Wis

But they have a lot of dodge

Its stabler to just chain them but yes Horn works

[scarlet mortar]

between the dodge and invis i'd just set up the chains and rotate dps

[unkempt summit]

Yeah, in Normal ver, I used Ines to expose one to Wis, then SA to expose the rest in combo with Wis killed all but 1

[scarlet mortar]

horn is the brute force approach

[unkempt summit]

Damn, completely forgot about the dodge

They all pass through the right path right? That didnt change from Normal?

[full terrace]

Ascalon shines in this stage because of 0 Block and AoE

Eh Babel was Asca event anyway

[glass monolith]

And this is valid amount of force application then?

[scarlet mortar]

yes

stage is a fuck

[unkempt summit]

Unfortunately I dont have her, though would it be better to use her instead of Ethan, or should I use Texalter for my Support to get rid of the headache of dealing with the ballista and stalling any Assassins/Spatulas that get close to the blue box

[full terrace]

Its fine, you have Wis-Logos-Ulpi

Plenty of dps

We used Asca back then coz no Wis no Logos

Spatulas if you chain them right at their spawn point

At top right

They will bleed

By the time they are in front of your blue box

They will die

They are not a big issue unless you wanna brute force them

Your main concern is the annoying Assassins

Texas borrow works I guess, but I personally think it's better to borrow more burst like Mlynar for example

[unkempt summit]

Wait, really?

[full terrace]

Yes really

[unkempt summit]

Ah, no the Support seuggestion made sense, I was surprised about the Spatulas

Since by the time they enter the left lane, they usually have about half health, so I would stall them with Texas and Ines until they ded

[full terrace]

In some low-end clear guides out there, they abuse the chain on Spatulas and just let them bleed by themselves, you just need to assign 2 ops to chain the red box at top right.

[unkempt summit]

So, Gladiia with Mod2 and S1 to Support Ulpipi chained to Ethan S2, in front of Penance to deal with the Flying Boots

Is that enough to get the Spatulas to bleed out without any extra effort?

[full terrace]

Yeah as long as they are chained right away when exiting the red box

Assassins are the main concern

[unkempt summit]

Thanks

Wait, if someone isnt brute forcing the Assassins with Horn, how do you even chain them in CM?

Or are they dealt with 1 by 1

[scarlet mortar]

they come in one by one

[full terrace]

You wait til they come closer, chain them so that they lose the dodge and invis, then bam bam bam

[scarlet mortar]

so yes they're just dealt with the moment they arrive

you do have the damage for it

[unkempt summit]

So do they come in a line, or what? Though I assume they come with timing thats enough for me to cycle through them with my 3 nukes?

[glass monolith]

They come in increasing numbers

[full terrace]

Yes and no. Some of them do come in a line, but others have distance and interval. Also there are 2 lanes you need to hold: the left-most and the middle.

[unkempt summit]

W and Logos have range wide enough to cover both of those, but with Ulpipi, would facing him to the left so he can snipe any leaks work?

[full terrace]

Ulpi is best placed on the left. The left-most lane has the most pressure

Mid is like 30% and left is like 70%

Oh and dont forget to bait the guitar guy when it comes closer

There are two iirc

[unkempt summit]

Since the only entrance to the left requires passage through the right, would it work if I built up there and left Ulpipi on mid facing right to snipe anyone that looks like they might break through?

If anything makes it through that to the left, it should be on low enough HP to die to an Ines helidrop right?

[full terrace]

You can do that but the distance between left and mid are closer compared to mid and right. Closer means you can, for example, have Wis and Logos defending both lanes, and 1 Medic to also heal operators from both lanes.

[unkempt summit]

Ah, but Ulpi with is massive HP bar is the only one on my main team that can tank the stray lancery, which is why I place him in mid. Ines could solve the problem with other laneholders using her Bind, but I use her as a helidrop stall in case Assassins get close, so any suggestions on who can lanehold mid with minimal support?

[full terrace]

Lancers at the opening? You can just chain them and make them lose their momentum

No momentum = they dont hit hard

If your Issue is DP generation, you can deploy Ines first. Her first hit bind is enough to stop any Lancers, and when you are finally finished with your formation, retreating her would leave her thingy on the ground. It slightly slows down enemies passing through.

[unkempt summit]

... Every time, I forget the chains do actually slow enemies

Thanks for the help, gonna try BB-S-4 CM now, gonna see how I do

[full terrace]

Shouldnt be that hard when you got Wis, Logos, Ulpi, Ines, Penance.

@pure orchid Jessica event is open, lets goooo

[glass monolith]

0.000001 second in - Ulp Gladiia EX-8 CM

[full terrace]

😏

[vocal leaf]

zuo le was fighting for his life in my maleknights clear i had to use bison talent+active skill to survive

[pure orchid]

Cant believe im actually awake at 1am just to play some rerun on release

[unkempt summit]

Damn bro, I didnt realize Zuo le was that fine

[full terrace]

Two dead weeks did its job, made all of us thirst for new contents, even if it's just a rerun.

[pure orchid]

Well not really for me

But yeah sure

Lowk i might just farm red certs again after clearing store

[glass monolith]

Thanks to stupid -1 sanity lose update

[pure orchid]

Its qol 🤫

[full terrace]

You are not low on Grindstone and Sugar?

[pure orchid]

Yup, i am a rich man

Flex on those poor ahh rerun farmers

[full terrace]

😏

Fine I'm a poor rerun farmer

[pure orchid]

Peep the fit couh

I think i should just sit on my ass till thing rerun reach kingdom come

[twin chasm]

I have a question... is there any reason to build anything else other than Rope and Shaw for pulling/pushing ? All of the hook/pusher duplicate are kind of doing the same. Exception is Gladiia and Weedy I guess (and also because they're 6*)

[jovial nest]

more like no other reason to build anything but Gladiia and Weedy

also if you want a niche reason

Enforcer is an incredible stall carry in RA2's hardest mode

[twin chasm]

Alright, at least I am sure

[jovial nest]

Ah yes, I remember how much of a pain in the ass Cliff is to fight

I wonder how painful it was for new players to beat his farming stage back in Jester's OG run

akin to EoE/EB back in their OG runs?

[wicked minnow]

also enforcer has a special push with s2 that's based on the direction he's looking and not where the enemy is relative to him. that might be the reason he's used idrk.

also Feater has quite a great dodge talent

weedy and gladiia have the highest force of their respective branches but some of the other units are special enough that i'd personally value building them

[jovial nest]

it's the stun

[wicked minnow]

weedy s1 has stun

[jovial nest]

alongside decent shift strength to undo enemy movement

Weedy's S1 has meh range though

[wicked minnow]

oh s2 for the stun. ic ic

[jovial nest]

yeah

they use a LOT of barriers and SP batteries in RA2

for the hardest days

[wicked minnow]

idk much about high diff RA so no clue

[jovial nest]

think of it like high risk CC....but in raid form

in other words

Ceobe...

and a LOT of arts and stall

[wicked minnow]

in high diff, is it just stats bloat or is there like 16 bosses on screen?

[jovial nest]

the most difficult are always just one boss

but every single day

they scale hp atk and def

so yeah it's stat bloat

2 of the repeating raid bosses though are dangerous

1 has really long range so there's like a specific strat to make Mudrock the target while lowering the boss' ASPD/interval enough

the other CANNOT die unless you can burst down its Phase 2 in a specific timeframe

[glass monolith]

Is RA1 boss 3 with stat bloat even possible? Bitch explodes on entering phase 2, reflect damage during phase 2 and return to phase 1 after time

[jovial nest]

it is

[wicked minnow]

oh that one. fun. i love how it regenerates

[jovial nest]

they use the absolute max range

to avoid the stun explosion

[glass monolith]

I don't know - does phase 2 damage remains or it is do over each time?

[jovial nest]

lemme see if i still cna find that video

[jovial nest]

it's a do over

so if you fuck up enough times, you're running out of resources (every fight caps your items)

[glass monolith]

in my case - WHEN

[jovial nest]

the amt of items and buffs ceobe gets is absurd

just to meet demand

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1Bx4y1J7uA/

enjoy

1000+ danger mode against the mech boss

you can skip near the end of the video

to see the Phase 2 nuking session

so specific of a setup. Oh and QB S1 being an MVP in RA2 too to permabind bosses

[wicked minnow]

this mode is absolutely cooked

[jovial nest]

it allows a LOT of options

in which case....yeah they're using ALL the best options for the job

[glass monolith]

OH GOD CEOBE ATTACK SPEED WHEN HE LET X2 PLAY

[jovial nest]

yep

the damage numbers are a blur

it's almost like a red censor bar

this is pre-expansion too so i have not checked later videos on how they adapted the new and solid items in their raid defenses

this is what they were using in the video btw

really timing those 30 seconds well

or else they will have to do the entire boss's HP again

[wraith dagger]

How do I kill this giant dragon (IW-9 invitation to wine)

[jovial nest]

just nuke it

just make sure to kill as many furniture as possible too

cause that increases their HP for each one they absorb

[wraith dagger]

I did it

[full terrace]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eY7GbSi7wIU&pp=ygUHQ1YtRVgtOA%3D%3D

Ah thats a beautiful Verdant use

And the stacked Heat Wave stall on Phase 1

[bitter halo]

wisadel

[tidal sedge]

is there an easy way to beat h12-4

[worldly stirrup]

Just follow guide

[scarlet mortar]

H12-4 isn't an easy stage, big map and various checks across the run

the easiest way to beat it would just be to have the ops that youtube guides use

[tidal sedge]

nah really

[full terrace]

It's one of the hardest stages ingame. For a stable clear it usually demands multiple 6 Stars. What ops do you have over there.

[tidal sedge]

i look at all of them

most of them*

they all use like full 6 star comps

and im f2p i have some good ops like wisadell and ulp but i dont think its enough

[full terrace]

Because thats how it's supposed to be cleared

Show us your ops really

[tidal sedge]

not alot of them are leveled

[worldly stirrup]

Send screenshot

[tidal sedge]

these are like all my leveld 6 stars

all m3

[worldly stirrup]

Its doable with all that unit

[tidal sedge]

i have these too

do you think i should be leveling any of these btw

[full terrace]

You are plenty strong to beat the stage.

[tidal sedge]

i see youtube people saying some are not worth it

[worldly stirrup]

I cleared it with mlynar as my main dps, and silverash to kill drone

[tidal sedge]

lowky maybe i just suck

i have mlynar

[wide sail]

ela good

[tidal sedge]

yea im thinking about getting ela

i got pepe but i dont think shes that good tb

maybe when viviana mod comes out ill use her

[wide sail]

zl gnosis and phantom have uses

[worldly stirrup]

Nah. Even if her module is good.
Its not worth it tbh

[wide sail]

phantom for is specifically

ceobe good aswell

everyone else kinda zzz

[tidal sedge]

i have texalter for phantom though

i always thought he was sort of powercrept by the other 2

[wide sail]

is mod

makes him actually do damage

[tidal sedge]

oh i didnt see it yet

[wide sail]

all the is mods are pretty nutty

[long crypt]

does ceylon halve amiyas s2 self stun with her s2

[bitter halo]

really good choices

whys ulpi have so much potentials tho

[tidal sedge]

because i really like the abyssal hunter squad

and i wanted to p6 all of them

[bitter halo]

[tidal sedge]

but its impossible for f2p players i pulled like 400 times on his banner

[bitter halo]

ya pot1 is enough

[tidal sedge]

nah i need him p6

so people use my support unit

ive been farming challenge mode for free op and i finished all of the main and side story already

[bitter halo]

i think what makes abyssal hunter squad strong is their modules not the pot upgrades

[pure orchid]

Fuck why does this event have aoe

My wis is die of cringe

[pure orchid]

Aw man they really didnt call it Shots Fired instead

Is this hgs way of teasing us

[full terrace]

I didnt even use Wis this event 😂

Lots of enemies got def boost with Heat Wave

I just threw all my Arts dpses at them

Nymph, Logos, Reed, Surtr, Texas

Wis got benched, she is cringe

[pure orchid]

Im doing wis solo everywhere possible for

Idk

Some novelty adn trust fmar

[pure orchid]

Nymph making the drone go to some random ahh spot

[rotund fern]

Is coldshot good?

[worldly stirrup]

Good op ❌
Good waifu ✅

[nocturne cove]

Mother

[pure orchid]

Father

[full terrace]

@pure orchid oh god I just did the funniest Patriot ever

With machine gun Surtr under 350 Ingots buff

But I forgot to record

[full terrace]

Testing a d10 Doodle-Shrivels points rush

Around 20 mins without the need to find King Relics set

[pure orchid]

Didnt happen then

[scarlet mortar]

FRDs don't work against him

ulpianus was your best bet had you set him up, but you can't retreat/let him kill anyone

else you want a tactician vg or a dollkeeper spec to bait the skill

they fake out the retreat/kill condition for his tp

[shadow stream]

I had him do business in top lane then he got murdered so I had to wait to redeploy him on the bottom lane

Got murdered when Cliff got to phase 2

Should I keep Cliff at the top then wait for it to be 36/37 then murder him?

This is what happened to Ulpipi

[vernal lion]

no Gladia

🚮

even 10k hp, he still takes like 2k dps and a burst of 8k
unless your medic can keep up healing with the current dps he tanking

[glass monolith]

On EX that burst is 11232 without Vent debuff

[vernal lion]

so true

[glass monolith]

If i cooked math right

[vernal lion]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5XEaVsN-2k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUmEmseVvqM

both clears are having Gladia with Upianus

removing Gladia will require a bunch of healing or DR buff that needs for him to stall the boss

[wary shuttle]

can you set up the two vents lane to guarantee they're up for the boss's burst

[vernal lion]

boss' burst skill has int CD is 15s and CD is 30s
heat vent has 50s CD and 10s of effect duration
technically you can make a perfect loop as long as every 30s boss CD, heat vent activates every 20s by getting attacked enough 60/2=30 (hit per second, for easy calculating)

different ops have different aspd (atk interval)

that is for 1 vent, your question is for 2 vents and it should be easy to do 'cause it should be looped all the time after you set it right timing

just remember: the 1st vent activates in time of the boss skill, after the 1st vent finished, the 2nd vent must has 30 sp to keep with the loop

[wary shuttle]

just about to ask that, the timing once phase 2 starts and the vents reset their sp was confusing

[vernal lion]

yes, after the 1st vent goes back to 0 sp, the 2nd vent should has sp value from 21 to 29,

also boss revives to phase 2 in 30s

[lapis hornet]

zamn my cv 8 auto broke

wdf

[glass monolith]

Lowered my CV-7 auto from 4 to 3 ops

[lapis hornet]

think mine was ling solo alr

[pure orchid]

Ling kinda goated for the event

arts + big dragon for cliffy

[indigo quartz]

Who to use as support unit against 3-8 skullshatterer?

[glass monolith]

Her def sucks so 99% of e2 snipers will just kill

[rich plover]

Any tips?

[narrow pendant]

Glhf 🥹

[rich plover]

What

[void terrace]

Tank the bossess atks with cuora and spam walter on him

Hope and pray

[narrow pendant]

I wonder why so many 5* drafts

And caster miya

[rich plover]

I'm level 55 and am only at Chapter 8

That should tell you

Yea yea I know Medicmiya is better

But I ain't there yet

[vernal lion]

here, I make it look easier for you to check it
the ±1-9s is to fit with the 10s of the duration, as long as the boss still gets hit by the vent within 1 second

[rich plover]

Grinding is ass

[shadow stream]

I was using support Ulpipi

[shadow stream]

If I can’t do the Ulpipi strat what could work with the operators I have rn?

[pure orchid]

That was just sad

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yea its the reality of community state, sadge

[vernal lion]

want to try out the old strats?

Surtr + Mlynar

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9erPp4GwNE

[split cloak]

Messy placements

[pure orchid]

I could even make this sadder by placing ulpi below wis face up and surtr in his place

Suzu just taking a nap too

tho atp i should just work on a degen buff army or smth

too much work for a mere second run

[scarlet fulcrum]

Nice fleggs with skill issue unit regardless

[pure orchid]

Its the best nothing burger

Hey in my defense when you have a big enough roster, sometimes you get choice paralysis

[split cloak]

Ayo that shamare skin s2 looks cool

[split cloak]

Lol same i just picked who caught my eye this time

[pure orchid]

I think its her only skin

Witch series is so good

[rotund fern]

How do you guys beat ending 3 is#5?

[pure orchid]

um. wisadel...

[narrow pendant]

Pump dmg

[rotund fern]

Not enough i think

[pure orchid]

Let pat get a little closer, he has DR against those far from him

[narrow pendant]

5k def, and 80% dr from.anything thats further than 2 tiles away

[pure orchid]

Alternatively, ulpi
or both

[narrow pendant]

Pretty funny

[rotund fern]

Still dying from aoe attack patriot

[pure orchid]

Im gonna be honest, my rarity abuse made me kill him too fast that i cant really give any solid advice

[rotund fern]

Aight, maybe buff issue too

I usually Dodge battle nodes

[pure orchid]

Okay you kinda asked for it then lol

[odd swan]

So the strategy for cliff is to time heat vent so his burst is weakened?

[pure orchid]

Combat nodes, esp. emer, gives the most rewards (incl. 1 guaranteed relic)

[rotund fern]

I always run for encounter or safe house

[pure orchid]

Yeah or just reduce his atk in some other way
Or use ops that can increase def/hp/dodge/have immortality to tank his shots

[rotund fern]

Lemme try with gg

[pure orchid]

If u play emergency nodes right, you can get around 60 relics per run

Even more if you use blueprint squad

[narrow pendant]

Ye thats bad

Combat gives u exp, relics which u need

[south dove]

Is there something to counter these

They just kill anything

[vernal lion]

energy increases enemy atk and def

so it's better to waste the energy by charging them to overload mode so the energy will come back to 0

[scarlet fulcrum]

CV-6 doesn't have that iirc

[vernal lion]

oh yea

[scarlet fulcrum]

But yea still easy with arts

[south dove]

Yeah having problem in cv 7 now

[scarlet fulcrum]

Ah 7 more simple like above said

[vernal lion]

yea, the top grenadier is such an example tho

[south dove]

What ab bottom one

[vernal lion]

I'm thinking about 2 methods for that:

1. You keep waiting for the gunner charging the energy for grenadier
2. Use pusher/puller to do the trick :))

[scarlet fulcrum]

I think liskarm also enough for simple block and taunt

Also dont use support, u want to farm this node

[vernal lion]

the enemy gunner has 9k hp with only 80 def, so it's better to prioritize them first

[scarlet fulcrum]

Indeed, after stack gone they are easy enough even without arts

Oh well those ops will have np

Oh wait top gunner just simple enough nvm

[wicked minnow]

they deal no damage to units with high defense. you could always just have a defender take the hits

[wicked minnow]

also are you doing a challenge?

your support is e1 and you dont have any e2 in your team

[vernal lion]

getting to overload mode and they hit like a truck

bro also has none of e2 to carry

[scarlet fulcrum]

I think the freebie still there for returnee

Still doable tho, hope dude can utilize em

[south dove]

did it with a bunch of healers

yeah I don't have any e2

still low lvl

[scarlet fulcrum]

U should have insta e2 for 5*

Check ur depot or mail

[south dove]

Oh yeah I have this

[vernal lion]

Greyy has to be ideal for you

[south dove]

tf is cv 8

[narrow pendant]

A fun stage

[vernal lion]

you don't need to farm cv8 so just e2 some op and borrow a carry

[scarlet mortar]

borrow nymph!

[tired eagle]

yeah she solo it

[south dove]

can she stop the funny dude knocking out anything

[tired eagle]

she can stop whole stage

[scarlet mortar]

he runs away so that never happens

[young elm]

gang how do you do cvex8cm

ulpi just dies

with gladiia

[narrow pendant]

Get a better ulpi🥹

[tired eagle]

Ulpi gladiia and use a therepist medicc

[narrow pendant]

Cheese with like, a dollkeeper

To fake die and not trigger his ability

[tired eagle]

Medic will help lessen the time of stun

[young elm]

i made him lv90 just for this ugh

idek what his ability does

[narrow pendant]

[young elm]

is eyjaberry a therapist

[tired eagle]

Then its a skill issue

[young elm]

duh its a skill issue thats why im asking for help

pfft

[tired eagle]

No use lumen or

[young elm]

lmfao i have been

[tired eagle]

Pure strem

[young elm]

lumen s3 no?

[tired eagle]

Doesn't matter

Or you can just logos and wis his ass

[narrow pendant]

Choose a target, stun every op in a + formation, do like 6k burst to the chosen op
If the op dies or is manualy retreated, dashes and getsnto use the ability again
And it can happen forever

[young elm]

oh

so i dont want wishadele behind ulpi okay

[tired eagle]

[tired eagle]

Lumen s1 lvl7 use
If using s3 activate on phase 2

[rotund fern]

Is this enough for general use?

[full terrace]

Get 1 more Medic. Kaltsit is not really a Medic. She is one in IS but outside of that, she barely does any Medic role. Get one or two strong Snipers, Exusiai does almost no damage. Get one FRD, if you dont have someone like Texas/Yato/Phantom, raise your Gravel.

@tidal sedge ??

[shadow stream]

I was able to get the full medal set using this strat, thx!

I leveled my Surtr from 60 to 73 cos she wasn’t doing enough dps

[tidal sedge]

?

[full terrace]

Nevermind. You pinged me, I thought you got something to say. But then I checked my notification again, it's just your reaction.

@pure orchid I probably should turn the discord notif off yeah?

[tidal sedge]

I did, I was getting notifs from people that were just in the chat I was in.

[long crypt]

Are ceylon and nian the only operators that can consistently apply status resistance

[pure orchid]

Yeah just turn them off

[wicked minnow]

a bunch of ops have permanent status resist on themselves like blaze, santalla and sideroca (and the bad therapist mod). you also got therapist medics in general with Lumen, Purestream and Whisperain (s2) with resistance on heal in general.

[wicked minnow]

It's good enough for general use but get more used to subbing out units as you get along in the game. Exu and Texas you should probably replace. I dont think mountain is all that great but i havent really used at all. Eventually you'd replace him too. Not every stage you'd need a Hoshiguma/Protector defender in general

The thing about exu is that she does 0 damage against enemies with more than 4 defense. Even with her new mod, she isnt all that. I only bring her out when i know an enemy has like no defense (<400) since she's still fun to use imo

[long crypt]

trying to make amiya actually useful since her caster form is absolutely abbhorent other than probably in IS
i used the ongoing event to test status resistance to make her s2 stun duration lower but the cycling is horrid with ceylon s2
so im just putting her in aggro positions with lumen and rotating fast redeploys to stall out the boss
im not sure if this is worse than just having other casters but it seems to work lol

[tepid bear]

can someone help me make a farm for 13-18? trying to break the altars is what I struggle with

[full terrace]

Oh I farm that stage too

Lemme finish my IS I'll get back to you

[arctic citrus]

anyone have any advice for clearing 2-10 on my e0lvl1 s1 account? Here's the current team comp as of rn. im also not looking for a 3 star, any kind of clear will do. (Best Attempt: https://youtu.be/CGn3UGU59gw?si=6euVINzDyoFItpet Krooster: https://www.krooster.com/u/e0lvl1leeloo)

also if anyone has any e0lvl1 discord servers to redirect me to that would be much appreciated

[full terrace]

I'll just tell you what I did on my farm okay? I use 3 ops to carry the entire stage: Wis, Ulpi, and Gladiia. The remaining slots are used for Trust farm. You dont need to copy my lineup exactly, just use any ops that can fill the roles.

• First of all, Gladiia on the white circled tile - this is to stop all those Blood Worms coming from the left side, and also protecting the bomb path.
• Secondly, Wisadel on the red circled tile. She has three roles to play in this position: to help Gladiia lanehold, to push the top bomb to the top altar, and to kill the mini-boss coming from top-right. If say, you use Exe in Gladiia's position, then the unit in this position only has 2 roles to play.
• When the bombs are charged, summon the right-side bomb, and then deploy anyone (your Trust unit) that has 3x4 attack range e.g. Marksman on the white squared tile. This unit will 100% focus on the bomb because enemies are stopped just barely outside the bomb path. Once the bomb reaches the red cross tile, retreat this unit for DP, and then deploy another Trust unit with 3x4 range on the pink squared tile. This unit will push the bomb all the way to the altar. When the altar is destroyed, retreat this one for DP as well.
• After the bottom altar is destroyed, all casters on the big purple squared area lose their immortality, you can now kill them if you wish (optional)
• Next you deploy someone with a bit of attack range in the yellow circled tile up there (in my case, this is Ulpianus). This unit has 2 roles to play: first is to stop those casters going up there (if you didnt kill them earlier), and 2nd is to push the top bomb one tile to the right (the bomb is in yellow cross tile), so that your dps on the red circled tile can push it to the altar. Once everything is done, summon the top bomb and destroy the top altar. The rest is just cleanup.

Because you are doing a farm, do take note that you need to protect the bomb path because those Blood Worms love to reduce the bomb's momentum - this can desync your timing by a wide margin and cause some errors in your auto.

[tepid bear]

thank you !! I'll go make the farm

[full terrace]

You are welcome. Best of luck.

[full terrace]

Oh and one more thing. I use no Medic because Ulpi and Gladiia regenerate their HP on their own. If you use other ops, you might need to use a Medic or two to keep them alive.

[timid sonnet]

Does anyone have any tips on CV-8, im failing to get 3stars on it

[tired eagle]

If you are okay with borrowing support unit
Nymph is really helpful in that stage

[full terrace]

I'm assuming you are new since you struggle with CV-8. Do you have any E2 with you?

[timid sonnet]

I do but not much, I’m still working to get more

[lapis hornet]

yeah I'm new

howd you know

[full terrace]

Okay good so basically the idea is to outrange Cliff

The key is to position your E2 dpses 3 tiles away from him

He walks in a straight line, dead middle

Try to time it so that you nuke him when he is under attack by the Heat Vent

As long as you maintain that 3 tiles away safe distance he will not touch you

[timid sonnet]

Do u have any suggestions on what operators I use?

[full terrace]

And he will not dash either

You have Wisadel, she is perfect for the job

[timid sonnet]

Okk!!! I’ll try again with ur advice and see how it goes THANK YOUU!!!

[unkempt lintel]

that unmodded wisadel look so sad

also wow e2 gravel

[full terrace]

Either of the red circles is safe to deploy Wisadel. Just make sure you retreat her Revenant Shadows that spawn in the blue squared area because they are in Cliff's attack range.

Cliff's main path is that purple straight line. The bottom most row is pretty safe to deploy

[timid sonnet]

OKKK!!!! I SHALL BEAT CLIFF!!

[full terrace]

Best of luck

[pure orchid]

Worst of luck 😈

You can also borrow shamare s2 to make clip useless

[timid sonnet]

U have cursed me and he got in right before he was abt to die.

[pure orchid]

@full terrace My curses are stronger than your blessings

[timid sonnet]

THATS NOT A GOOD THING.

[pure orchid]

Or in brainrot terms, YOU CANNOT HANDLE MY STRONGEST POTIONS

[timid sonnet]

HELP WHAT

[pure orchid]

What

Your flametail and penance might be able to tank clip

Havent tried myself though

[timid sonnet]

I’ll try

And dont curse me

[pure orchid]

I’ve removed it

[timid sonnet]

my waifus will give me luck and I will kill clip

[pure orchid]

Gladiia might be able to stall him a tiny bit with s2

Just have her on the sides same as wis

[timid sonnet]

Got it

[timid sonnet]

@pure orchid @full terrace I killed Cliff!!! Finally yayayya

[full terrace]

Congrats

[pure orchid]

Money

[dapper hedge]

How broken is narantuya

[hallow knoll]

my guy for the love of god please turn on your skills

[tired eagle]

I think he was showcasing her dodge

[prisma ledge]

I am having trouble trying to clear CV-8 without Surtr and W'isadl (unowned)

[full terrace]

Doesnt have to be Surtr nor Wisadel. You need a heavy hitter that can hit 3 tiles away. Then someone in front of your blue box to lanehold #strategy message

Logos and Nymph work

There are records in arkrec where Logos soloes

Also Nymph

[prisma ledge]

I'll see what I can do

[prisma ledge]

I don't own them 💀

[sullen rover]

you can afk with ulpianus gladiia eyja berry and ascalon

[prisma ledge]

Nvm

I just finally did it

[prisma ledge]

Apparently I can use Thorns in front of the blue box to dps the boss standing still, and after clearing the enemy tanks at the bottom, I use SilverAsh (just got Mlynar but he's not E2 yet) and use him to hit the heat waste vent safely so the boss gets weakened by it.

Sometimes in my life, I wanna W'isadel everything 😭

Just sit back and relax

Guardmiya and Ptilopsis just for global buffs I guess

[full terrace]

Should be pretty easy with your squad 😅
But yeah congrats

[prisma ledge]

Oh I have skill issue

[full terrace]

Also yes Wis and Logos are pretty broken. My auto had Wis+Logos

I mean either of them can solo but I want stability

[prisma ledge]

See, here's a thing, skilled players can make a lower rarity/not so broken squad and still work reliably. And then there's others like me, who just bruteforce with pure power like W'isadel and stuff and spend less energy "thinking" about it.

The funny part is, #strategy is great for helping people who doesn't know what to do for clearing maps, but if someone posts something, then adds their current squad composition/levels and suddenly it's like "Hold on, ur squad is so strong, how come you can't clear it?"

[full terrace]

Dont worry too much about it. I used Wis and co, I have skill issue myself 😅
Congrats on your clear regardless

[prisma ledge]

HAHA thank you 👍
Much appreciated

[vernal lion]

ah yes, the "Out Of Control" map

tbh just kill the first chimera and everything will go well later

[royal rose]

This team can’t beat the robot, can it?

The SSS robot

[vernal lion]

huh?

that team looks good tho

[royal rose]

I mean, Robot literally makes Logos and Astgenne eat shit

Like, just stand there and stare blankly while waves of enemies overwhelm my team

Cuz it's got a mechanic that basically says "ranged DPS units do not work on this stage"

Literally can't do anything about that

My team just does nnot work

[tired eagle]

which robot are you talking about

[royal rose]

The thrower one

[royal rose]

The one that eats enemies an bricks ranged units

And throws enemies into your backline

So your blockers drown

[tired eagle]

if you are talking about greedy catcher he binds operator with hightes atk

his res is low so art delear are ideal for dealing with him

[royal rose]

I know

But the highest attack thing screws me so hard

Because hey, my DPSes have the highest attack

Literally f me for playing the game I guess?

Either that or I need like 5 DPSes with healing capacity so he can't potato them all

And my team is not built for ASPD

And Iäve got bad equipment

There needs to be an operaator called BS buster who's unique skill lets them break out of any CC the boss imposes on them and then smash the boss into nonexistence

[full terrace]

Your composition is very messy in the first place, thats not how you draft in SSS. Majority of them need to be low DP cost Casters and Snipers for Atk/Aspd Tactical Equipment. Also no, you can burst the boss with ranged unit just fine. Here is a recording I made awhile ago for boss fight under Emer mode #strategy message

[royal rose]

I am sorry I am not a draft pro

[full terrace]

You dont need to be pro to be able to tell that Tactical Equipment is bread and butter in SSS.

[royal rose]

I know how SSS works

[arctic citrus]

replying to this cause it got buried pretty fast lol (also im going to bed so if ppl get back to me itll be a few hours till i see it)

[full terrace]

You know how it works and you drafted that? Lmao

Yeah well, good luck to you I guess

[royal rose]

IDK

I just don't know what a good draft looks like

¨Like, I want good blockers

But I also want good fuel for my DPSes

And medics to survive

[full terrace]

I just told you bro, you need a stacked Tactical Equipment and one or two dpses are enough. Like for example if your dps can benefit off aspd buff, you can run something like 3 Casters 2 Snipers. But if it's like someone like Wisadel then you can run 5 Casters.

[royal rose]

Robot wrecks up to 2 units though

[full terrace]

Medics usually dont need Tactical Equipment and you rarely need it

[royal rose]

Like, makes them potatoes

[full terrace]

I literally burst the robot in here #strategy message near his spawn point before he burst me

And thats Emer SSS, more difficult than normal one

As long as you draft some cheap units like

[royal rose]

I am on Emer lol

[full terrace]

Durin the 2 Star Caster

Stewart