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Ten Rings Encounter is rarer than my steak. I found mine at F5 after thousands of Doodle rush
Yo I unlocked all Collectibles
Only Flourishing Paradox left, I need to find that Shifting City Encounter
Invest 1, it breaks, you quit IS 
Did you know, while investing, I try to go for F5 to look for the Shifting City Encounter
Then I left when I didnt find it
In the next run
I got the "Masterless" thingy
Got bunch of Plans from my previous Doodle rush

Anyway gonna go
before tomorrow
Wrong channel, sry..
nop sorry i stole the screenshot lol
search on arkrec as he said
Thanks
np
I finally got my Flourishing Paradox 😲
Shifting City at Floor 4
For some reason Shifting City lets you enter another Floor 4, and then when you exit it you jump to Floor 5 right away
Floor 4 - Walks in - Walks out - Floor 5
Door behind closes
what kind of **** is this
Wait when you see ending 4 

More like what kind of positioning is this.
Also where is your Vanguard
Quest for Consensus is all about AoE damage, make good use of your Wisadel and Ascalon #strategy message
Uh, no, lol CC is very mechanic specifics
which one should i pick...
If this is Floor 1-2-3 (and maybe 4), pick Four-Leaf Clover Fossil
If this is Floor 5-6, pick Witchcraft Terminal and make sure you use any Inspirer before a tough battle
Man I lost 4 Patriot runs today trying to greed the Plans
Ended up not triggering the ending
Big lesson learned. Save 3 Plans by the end of F4 😑
And convert all Shrivels to make space for Patriot Relic
That extra guard seems overkill
Bro that message is older than my dead grandma
im floor 2 should i pick one of these or la pluma
Ah man.. I'm not a fan of Guards in IS.
there is also blaze
But I would say no Degen is better
Coz Degen doesnt benefit off the aspd Relics
There is a lot of stages requiring AoE damage so maybe SilverAsh?
i have mod for silverash when i promote him so ill pick him then
why not? ATK animation too long?
Degen S3 slashes for 10 hits. You speed that up, she still does 10 hits just faster - that is no dps increase unless you meant her Offensive Recovery S1/S2. This is not the case for Guards like Mlynar and Surtr since their dps is hit-based, the more aspd they have, the more they hit = higher dps.
offskill dps increase trust
😏
atkspd+ spinach means more boosted hits
Thats also true for Mlynar under hyper aspd
In fact it's for everyone who can do multiple hits in 1 sec
including degen
so degen is broken
imagine thinking the most boring, meta option for 5* dps is "funi"
Funny is throw kazemaru at my troubles
any tips to kill this stinky boss
do you have any problem with this enemy?
maybe just use arts damage
Any way to cleanse his debuff?
debuff? what debuff?
He make my operator can't atk
He restrict 4 of my ops
wait, is this sss?
Yeah
maybe try using degen s3, because she is invulnerable during skill
wisadel s3 5sniper stack
oh yeah, wisadel also got camouflage
I don't have them 
golden glow?
Borrow
i think golden glow can still atk even if she affected by debuff
I already at stage 6 if borrowing I need to repeat from 1 
I think my surtr solo it last time i played that stage i just play the other sss now
what your squad look like?
Give me tip at NOT killing this boss, I can't unlock DL24 enemy in my enemy archives 
Need help with 7-18, where and when do I place the mines and where do I place my ops?
how people will tell you where to place your ops when they don’t know what ops are those 
His ops is 15 mines 

S3 Amiya to slap phase 1. Avoid blocking phase 1. I would probably deploy Ascalon on safe from altar tile on right or in some way she deals as much damage as possible to claw dudes going "top" route to blue box. Caster 12F talent is cheese way to bait boss phase 2 skill (target further ranged tile target which bypass all taunts etc). Phase 2 won't erase you on block, and you might just Amiya s3 it again or whatever, he gains AoE aura and range to his attack so be careful on setting up. 
Based on Patriot position and only when phase 2
Is the attack AoE
It will be bottom right most of times
Kinda funny that 12F got featured in this chapter during the battles lol
Spear throw is single target. Normal attack is single target. In phase 2 he has small range attack enough to target ranged units right next to him. AoE is aura which affect like... 1+something tile around him
Right, the mines are not needed since it's Amiya's S3 yea?
Well mines are damage so if you can DP afford them. Path of boss is simple, not losing mine to random dog is outside my brain capacity
amoya s3 is like 47k total
what's pat hp again
anyhow just use the mines
it's also gives fragile
Oh yea, wth do I do with the phase 2 ambush
Narantuya should be able to clean house yea?
You mean the etc stuff? They are Chapter 7 enemies, Narantuya can do a full house clean, straight from the beginning to the end if you pair her with a blocker. In the context of offskill AoE, she and Asca are two of a kind. Just make sure she survived Patriot's spear throw and she will flush everything down the drain.
There is a reason why Naran is one of the top 3 Sniper picks in IS5 currently. IS5 has a lot of maps requiring AoE damage, and Narantuya does a fantastic job at that. Her only issue is her lower damage output but this is not a problem in IS because of Relics.
Please dont use that thing as a source of actual "good" ops
Since its based on the amount of times the op has been taken, regardless of the difficulty
I always take this op called Fredi, i think theyre really good...
That thing is only some proof of concept, that she is used by a vast number of players.
Naran IS a good op, her dps is not that high but she is useful in dealing with AoE. Altho her performance is not that impressive outside of content like IS (and maybe RA), calling her not good because her niche doesnt fit your playstyle is not an objective view. Just like how you implied that Fremont is hard on higher diff back then #strategy message and looked down on me because I was playing on d2 and hadnt unlocked higher difficulty yet. Well guess what? He still got obliterated in secs even in d15. Your opinion is subjective. There is nothing wrong with that, but that does not give you the right to invalidate others' opinions. Because you can see things from an angle, doesnt mean other views are automatically incorrect.
I am. Not reading that yap
Also i never said naran isnt good
So
I said just cuz an op is in that list, doesnt automaticaly make them good
You implied it the way you replied it. Well if you deny it, I guess I can take that as a yap and call it a day.
If u take that as an implication, you shouldnt
I can do a thounsand runs drafting something like pallas until she shows up in the "most used" list
I don't even know anything about Nara off skill aoe 
Will you autimaticaly call her good because shes there? Most likely you wouldnt
That was my whole point
I just looked at is4 and found an impostor
The top picks don't really measure whether an op is good or not
It's just a reflection of the most recent ops at the time
Okay why the fuck is thorns also in is5 top pick 
Even kermit, the IS god said to not use that list as a way to gauge whether the op good in IS
If you dont believe me, go ahead
But you should believe him
damn is god kermit
No it doesn't have Surtr Kalt and Passanger which i am missing 
Have no idea why you took it so seriously out of nowhere
actually who's a knower
Point taken. My subjective view would say that Pallas is still not good, but if you managed to flood the list til Pallas made it to top 3 picks, meaning that you have a consistent way to make Pallas shines that you managed to beat the number of top picks from thousands of other players'. Let's just say out of 1000 participating players, 300 players are consistently contributing +1 for the top pick everyday, and none are drafting Pallas. This means to enter top 3, you gotta single handedly do 300 runs with Pallas. If you managed to achieve this, then you have a unique way to use Pallas others cannot. I can only admit that she is good because you could do it. I cant do it doesnt mean it's not good.
I mean u can just pick pallas then dip
You dont even need to deploy her though
Just drafting her counts
actually is april still in this server
So i wouldnt be able to have a unique way to use her at all
No because 7 8 9
U what
Gambler regret
Yeah exactly. It's an indication that an op is used by a vast number of players.
Alright so you know about these figurines with 6 variations that come in blind boxes
Why 30 bucks
@latent halo bro any good 4* for is5?
But thats still 20 dollars
My brain is rotting from the gambler's regret
:ya:
Now i wanna spend 60 dollar to complete the set
Im down for some arknights gambling with no real money involved
But my friend introduced these to me and now im actually doomed
purestream can be your main healer , may s2 for flying chest (dlc 1) , quartz is a good carry if you have aspd and bloodbath , gravel deepcolour for ed2 goalkeeper , gummy for starter , cuora for ed2 staller
@glass monolith Someone's talking about Quartz
Is this balatro irl gaslighting
thats for n15 enjoyer peeps
Idk wtf balatro is
good
🤯
i have a dream of perma stall

well you can also use hoe
but i dont think most ppl have it
Yeah and thats simply it
Its like a survey where most people pick answer C when the correct answer is actually B
Correct answer is screw meta do your own way and learn something 
I threw a situation and forgot the theoretical meaning
Note to self: do not type tired
Yeah this is an argument on data manipulation. Sure yeah you can push Pallas to top 3 in theory, but who would? It sure will change my objective view because the data changed. Just like how you just showed Thorns is used by a vast number of players. Do I think that Thorns is good? No. But can I say that Thorns is not good for other people? Not exactly because there are a lot of people drafting him til he made it to top 3.
I cant really invalidate these other people's opinions on Thorns, that will be an elitism.
Its not elitism, there has to be some objective truths here
Rn the prevailing definition of good is specialization in a niche or being able to do many different things at once
Its how we tell people to raise ulpi over thorns for example
And a list that ranks all operators in a class against each other is based on comparison
You compare ulpi over thorns
They use 1 squad slot, but ulpi happens to be more useful
Ofc if you compare every op then the ones at the top of the list are good and the ones at the bottom are bad
🥹
And then its a matter of assigning a threshold
Its also somewhat more accurate to have a grey area of "good enough"
Quite frankly thorns is middling
With the criterion of comparison, no one in this day and age is calling him good
Perhaps good enough at best, and bad at worst
This has gotten too political
Similarly, depending on who you ask, people will say tuta is good or good enough
The prevailing opinion is that she's good, so good in fact that she's in the top 3 pick
But that doesn't reflect her true performance, simply the people's opinion
But ik shes good🥹
The thing about operators in arknights (or game in general) is that, there are multiple traits packed into one unit, something like damage, range, comfort of use, etc. We evaluate units based on their overall performance I understand that, but for some people, they'd over-valued a trait like for example: Player A does not care about damage at all and only care about the attack range. Then a subpar unit would be obviously viewed more favorably by this person than others right? The easiest example would be Pozemka. She is by far, the hardest hitting ST sniper, but would I say she is better than Ray? Not exactly, because of her range. So if someone says that Pozemka is good like Astrel and Ancool here #strategy message I cant really deny it because it is still data-fact that Pozemka hits harder than Ray.
Wait what
How does pozy hit harder than ray who has like 5k dph
Is it using like, combined pozy+typewriter with s3
I guess ill just reiterate my point about comparison
You'd use ray in more situations than pozy, so ray is better
What I'm trying to say is that, if the data shown that something is used by a lot of people, it is "good" by data <~ note the quote-unquote. So my objective view would say it good - this is my explanation of the "pushing Pallas to top 3". If you manage to push her to top 3, sure I'll call her good for you, but thats because of data manipulation. My subjective view would still say otherwise.
Yayaya exactly
Ya sorry I wasnt being clear. Pozy+Typewriter.
i mean that first statement is already false
the data doesnt say anything about good or bad
its just count
2 vs 1 is unfair
Nope im making this my thesis
Hence the quote-unquote
most ppl don't play d15, at lower dif some "bad" units are actually decent
I love data, like how it was proven by data that most tests have B as the most used answer

When u dont know, pick B
in my country at least
Frankly i dont get what the quotes are for
We're approaching a meta-something
not the abbreviation, but rather a view too wide for a scope too narrow
Do you really not know or are you just messing with me. If data doesnt tell you anything, why the hell people do survey on things 😐
The quote-unquote good means that it is a conclusion drawn because of the high numbers count.
I did say frankly
The data is just count
And the conclusion does not follow
Idk who is drawing this conclusion but i dont support it
The word correlate popped into my head but idk how to use it
Bro you are overcomplicating simple things. If you see 10 and 1. Conclusion is 10 is better, hence 10 good according to the numbers. Language is a just a form of labelling. If you are so against the use of "good" then say "favored by most" because the freaking data literally just told you that an X op is used by so many players that it got pushed to top 3.
I wanna say that first statement is ironic but thatd be borderline, if not ad hominem
And the second statement is just the same as before
Its just count
Idk what that 3rd sentence is supposed to mean
And the 4th sentence is just semantics
X op used by many player = Many player think X op is good
But at the end of the day its just what they think, nothing else
The topic has gone offtrack for quite far. How did Naran argument came to this 🤣
Anyway, my take is that altho the top pick lists are obviously not an indication of an operator's strength compared to others, it is still an indication for favorability by players. If A unit is used favorably, there must be something in that A unit that people like, that people view favorably, hence why I said "there is a reason" in here #strategy message and the reason is her AoE.
I never said that the list is absolute indication of an operator's strength, not while Thorns is there. But because he is there, do I call him good? Personally no (subjective), but since data shows that people love to use him, I'd say "yes he is good to other people" (objective).
So okay i skipped entire talk you guys had having fun and shit. So what was Naran offskill aoe? And player who asked had E1 Nara 
I more or less just presented the same point thrice and wanted to see what would change
Sorry I wasnt being clear. Not exactly offskill offskill, but on S1 Naran kinda does her AoE thing through bouncing.
So its kinda onskill? But she can also switch back like Mountain
So offskill?
Onskill?
So did anything change then?
Because I realized I'm talking to you and not some random strangers smfh
I dont wanna hurt your feelings
Its fine, ive gained some numbness from somewhere
I basically dont believe in loyalty anymore
I mean i cant be loyal
If people are loyal to me thats great
Me i just cant be loyal anymore
zamn it's been 3 hours yall stilll at it
🥹
Bro just said he cant be loyal no more, it's a wound he does not want to open. Let's leave it at that.
Time will heal him
Thanks
How does naran hold up in higher difficulties?
Shss been shredding lower difficulties for me but i can see her falling off fast
She just relying on relics i think, with all of her skill being atk_ scale. So benefit on all type atk relics (aspd trash for her tho). Still not drafting her so far. Kinda whatever with ton of relics anyway
Very strong mid-run with some attack relics, like kirn said. Falls off on floor 5/6 a bit since no aspd scaling yeah. I draft her a lot if I have the hope and tickets
nara is my main sniper, basically the only 6star sniper i use, she does pretty well, i don’t agree she cant use aspd relics, there’s a lot tiles good for her in is5, she just has to be close to the targets
i mostly use s1
Guys
Who should I buy Weedy or Suzu?
I always wanted Suzu but weedy will be more useful 
Suzu and prepare for CCB#3 👍
Projectile speed still same, esp with other than s3. So the benefit just a little even with 400 aspd
Yeah I'll borrow Weedy for it and try to get Ceobe in the next selector.
U wanna use 30 bucks for more cc 3 score?
Just get her from T0 5 times
It’s not a matter of agreeing or disagreeing. She doesn’t scale well with aspd. Even if they’re very close, once ASPD buff is in the hundreds, which isn’t uncommon in higher floor IS5, the projectile speed is the biggest bottleneck
Nah, Kernel selector. Who tf would spent 30 dollars on a gacha Op come on
:clueless:
I think you borrow eyja alter and win🚬
noted🗒️
where should i put the sheep alongside other operators i have
You can abuse Lappland and accurately apply her Silence on some enemies. I remember Kyostin had a guide with Lappland Support and he cleared it with no Brands on whole map.
Or just borrow Eyjaberry yeah
i just wanna get the complete uh progress collection
the sinters are important for me to S3M3 wisadel
becuase i havent unlock that stage yet
roger roger
Done, add whatever you wanna else
Can add like, a multi medic below bass for lapp, or another dps
i should get myrtle and texas for fast dp
ah multi medic
roger
noted
yeah i have ptilopsis
i can use her
Or well, ig u can put eyjaberry under fedex instead
U can play safe by camping top left guider with wis, and waiting bottom guider on stair with hoshit and lapp
Kinda afk b4 350 maybe
thank you
ejya borrow btw
this was suffering before i got a lot of e2's
i need thoughts on which defender i should e2 first: saria or mudrock?
both are e1 lvl 60 rn, and i plan to e2 both eventually. i just wanna know who i'd get more mileage out of e2ing first
I'm assuming you are new. It depends on what other ops you have atm, if you have some dps(es) built already then go Saria, otherwise you wanna build Mudrock for the dps first
mud rock can do well enough st e1 but gets a huge boost stats wise with e2
Saria is just solid overall and you probably can hold off her e2 for a bit if you are early in story and arnt pressed for healing
I'm new you assumed right
Bro I just got the craziest run ever @pure orchid
Wisadel did 98k per shot 🤣
And Nymph 84k per shot
Fuck kinda relics did u get bruh
It was the usual atk Relics like Scout Scope, King sets, Empty Fowlbeast, Commander's Portrait, Old George's Nutri-Paste, Silver Fork those kind of. But this time I did something different.
I tried to find this Impression on Rogue Trader F1
Then invest 2 Plans on it
When this Impression is on effect, Cannot keeps selling me all the rare books
I entered F3-F4-F5-F6 Rogue Trader and found myself Fatal Bolt - Precision and Crossfire
Shop impressions are arguably the strongest tbh
Safe house is kinda lame
ftt is paying thoughts to gain thoughts
we already get a lot
and we dont encounter ftt much
And Broken Wand - Malediction and Arts Weaving for my Nymph and Logos
FTT the +1 Plan is not bad
Say if you invest 2 Plans on F2
F3-F4-F5-F6 you get a total of 5 Plans back, so thats +3
It is a net gain if you invest early, but in comparison to shop...
Yah Shop is broken
I keep seeing things like
Civilight Eterna and friends
I went into F5 Rogue Trader with like 100 Ingots
When I exit the Shop I was at 12
It was crazy
You belive it or not, that run was pretty meh going into F4
I was half given up already
But then, I got the Masterless thingy
And the Masterless thingy gave me 5x Shrivel 😂
Kept em until F6 for 20x Shrivel
It was engineered lmao
In d15, you need to get +2 Hope or Kettle to start your run
Because Wisadel costs 7 Hope to recruit
If I dont get it, I reset and do a Blueprint Doodle rush to F4
And leave 5 Shrivels there 🤣🤣
Bro I'm working on the Squad icons 😂
I'm gonna shelf that IS5 forever if that happens
Nope your account is going to be fraudulent
But seriously bro, if you have time try to Doodle rush your Prospective Investment. The extra stuff Cannot sells can be a gamechanger when you look for the books
Rewards get refreshed in 2 days
My thought exactly lol
This shit emergency without proper team is tough 
If those are not proper team, idk
Skill issue imo
Maybe he meant a proper team like this 😂

Having Trio Sexas, GG E2, Shu and maybe some *3 to block is much better than this squad for this stage you know.
Or literally just duo Yato and Sexas and bunch of *3
Rather than proper squad, more of "Correct" squad than I need
Sure
Damn is it just me or is the patriot fight kinda easy
7-18 is ez
Took 1 to 2 tries to get the other ending
But ending 3 of is 5 was one shot
Didnt have any good relics either
Oh i mean gun knight patriot
His damage was lower than I expected
Nian the best brick just stopped him
All 3 of them are piss easy tbh
yes
Yeah.
He may just be one of the strongest regeneration units
Eh?
eh
I mean like jank wise. Massive radius. Good uptime. Good ammount
sora s1l7 is more regen than him at s2m3
Like yes ling can do a solid 80 and amiya can do a solid 3.5% of max hp which is insane
Yeah but the cooldown sucks
Tinman can just keep applying it
Gladiia:
just be lucky on her 50/50 talent
Dosent work for summons

I mean i have civil night and skadi
But they just feel very
Slow
Been looking for a good support for my ling hyper carry team
Thorns Alter S1 is like 200 regen/s
& +200 Defense if you think about it.
Yeah but cooldowns and range
I mean when im using ling and want to heal her dragons amiya medic ironically works better since her tallent gives global healing
CE s1 is unlimited, and s3 is..idk actually
Was it like 50/35?
If u want global healing, slap angie and perfurmer
me think it's like half of that no?
Its 257 with s1m3, lvl90, mod3
damn you're counting mod too. i c i c
Not sure if the extra 30% burst of healing affects summons
Prolly not
And if it do, im too lazy to calculate it
doubt it does. also i got a number a bit less than 257 being 0.35x(369+30+27)x1.6 = 238.56
Mod is +8% atk
Oh wait
That needs ops to take effect so just ling dragons wouldnt do
i think it's just 0.3x(369+30+27)x~~(1/6)~~ (1/3)
But he said hes bringing other ops so it may be active
also i dont think the x1.6 from her talent works on summons either
S1 halfs the ball respawn
It does
damn her healing is kinda respectable lowkey
It only applies on the Operator affected by the particle?
i dont get your question exactly. like what applies. if you mean the 1.6x then ye
iirc it doesnt even collide with summoned units
It happens that it says op but summons too
But i cant say i tried so i may be delulu
the 30% also but doesnt work with enmity since it's green healing i believe
Yeah that ik
Its just nice "consistent" wording
Since her trait also says "restore" 
the orbs dont collide with ling dragons
Boom cliff while he is affected by waste heat vents
Having him hit 0 HP on both phases while being hit by the device.
Vent Cliff. Them kill him. Duh
it seems hard tho
Event at time if CV event Typhon S3 would kill him in single vent cycle. Now we have Wisadel
perfect substitute to typhon 
also i have seen some low end strat using mlynar
but its uhh
Specter alter can stalk him because turning doll keeper into doll doesn't proc on kill effect
iirc he wasn't particularly hard in the normal stages. just like kill him fr fr
yeah fr
You seen some strat. I said "Fuck it I am Quartz stalling him" 
noted
U only need to kill him while affected to vent
ye ik
needs some stalling + fast atk interval op too
- medics
Can also timing burst, or clown him with nymph
Just more vanguards and kill faster
i dont have nymph
Borrow.
I forgive you friend supporting for trim
you could also just buff army exusiai or something similar and time the vents
Just kill dude, also quite fine for afk too
ok then imma borrow wi-
so stalling it is
exu does no damage unless he is affected by vents. you just need to time the skills and he dead
plus the 1k+ phys and def reduction would make me having a hard time dealing with him smh
vents remove 70% of his def
no i mean
time the vents with wis s3
i mean the atk during non-burst time
oh uhhh, cringe also that works like really well just like kill the man when the vents are on
and his passive skill
Ulpanius, Gladiia
Will it work? Don't know. Someone will try
no wae i need to build gladiia rq
I'll try it if you want.
ulpianus should 110% work
Phase 1 stuns long enough to move forward unless you provide status resist/body. Phase 2 spends so long on attacking stun ends before he moves
the guy doesnt deal enough damage at all against ulpi and ulpi can just kill him
so
- stall him with some defenders + medics
- boost waste heat vents rate w/ gravel
- wis on vents' activation
- beware of minions
- repeat for phase 2
as for the abyssal hunter strat, imma just rethink abt it
it's really not that deep. just use wis when the vents are on. she just kinda kills him
aight
And probably when vent is off too
also according to wiki, you can do it on either phase once and you get the medal
nah imma trim
Trim is do it on both 
wait what if i do it on 2 seperate operations?
will it count?
(ofc not)
(No it doesn't)
(shame)
I work at IT. I don't know how broken their IF condition is
Trim for both yea, i think i trimmed medal without realizing it
nais
Every year of my life I make random infinite loop. This year managed to make one due typo in if condition - '=' (set to) instead '==' (equals)
It will be small feat for nowadays burst regardless
oh right mb
D15 Patriot has around 9k atk and almost 11k with Talon (assuming no Fissured Restraints and friends) - that one shot everything in most cases. If you are really (like really) unlucky with Relics, using strat like abusing Medicine Sticks plus the Shield Inspirer on FRD can let you tank a few hits from Patriot. But then again, I have never experienced a run where I didnt accumulate enough Relics going into F6. IS5 is either you skip all Relics and spend 1 hour on boss fights or collect Relics for 1 hour and cheese boss fights in 1 min.
Is there any way to specifically target king's relics
afaik there's an encounter that can literally give you all of the kings relics as a nice gift (i think it only appears on higher floors but i might be wrong). there's also a lamp item that in a later expansion that guarantees you get some good relics based on a condition for that relic
No unfortunately but
Is there a specific floor it shows up? I really want to run spearhead squad, blueprint is getting old real fast
You can always do a path with many Encounters starting from F3
And around F6 (if you going for ending 3) there is a high chance of King Encounter happening if you hadnt get one
I personally find that Doodle run is stabler than Talon run on Squads that are not Blueprint
If you are willing to spend Plans e.g. you get Flourishing Catastrophe and get many many Epochal Gaps or Sordid Surveillance fights
You can afford to spend the Plans to reset Nodes
And most Nodes reset under Doodle
Give you fair chance of turning them into Encounters
I've actually never tried doodle, is it better in higher modifiers
Well it's stable in d15 at least, my first Patriot attempt had 90 Relics
Idk about d18 later
Gotta try
Jesus and that's not talon? I thought 66 was high
That was not Talon yeah
What's thr best squad to climb difficulty with? Currently at d6
Sniper medic squad with wisadel start?
The fastest is blueprint + doodle relic
You can have 15 minute runs and get to d15 quick
you can get that encounter in floor 3 aswell?
Do d15 in 15 minutes too 
Yah you can
I did many many Blueprint Doodle rush to F3 when I failed a run
Because in d15 Wisadel needs 7 Hope to recruit
So I gotta get +2 Hope or Kettle start
Do i have to care about branching nodes or do i just ignore them
"you can" doesn't mean "you will"
And with my luck "you won't" 
still didnt but im not actively grinding IS rn
And in those rushes there were couples of times I got King Encounter in F3
Branch is fine, just keep going through encounter until you get king set
I still need to begin grinding is4, and maybe like 10 levels left in 3
Just hope doodle gives me enough plans to afford node jumping lol
i finished grinding is4 battle pass with welfares but im still d12. I got my shit kicked in 2x by the hard mode of the crystal boss
i didnt realize the hardmode actually made the bosses hard 🥹
Doodle gives you plenty of Plans (and Hope) surprisingly (if you do a lot of Encounters that is).
Inauguration Ceremony alone gives you 5 Plans at once
And Doodle gives you plenty of Safe Houses when resetting Nodes
Safe House can give you 3 Plans if you are lucky
Actually I think Doodle might give more Plans than Talon tbh
If you memorize which fights have more Spikes, Doodle can flood you with Plans
Best ones are Epochal Gaps and Sordid Surveillance
Also pray for Catastrophes Epoch 
Idk I usually take The Silence 😂
Avenger is like 20% better if you PURE physical
I only have wisadel on my squad right now i just started lol
I usually get nymph logoseyja tho
At d15 Patriot has around 500k HP iirc, and -20% HP is like 100k damage for me
So usually I take The Silence
left is phys amp
+35% physical means you need to do 74.1% of enemy HP as physical damage to kill it
When having doodle is it better to refresh 1v1/2v2 nodes
but is it applied before or after defence?
I don't know their code but in normal wording games take damage is after defence
Rip, refreshed and turned into scout bro i have 3 ops
You have 2 ops 
oh the duel map
idc tbh, be it 1v1 or 2v2 doesnt matter
if have to choose i prefer do that at f4 and above
better relics and ops surely it would be easier no
(reads "Alt f4" by habit)

Cat pulled out ethernet cable mid battle
I'm about to turn bro into a battle record
That's why you need wireless 
🤣 🤣
Cqn wisadel solo victory rewind? (frostnova and patriot stage)
Maybe not, she wont cycle fast enough
If you got a 98k per shot run like this one #strategy message then you can
But usually I just stall FrostNova and Patriot with blockers
Wisadel at top can cover both lanes
Facing down
honestly you might be good. just like time the ability
also you have the lives to tank patriot. so it isnt run ending atleast
I place her at that Blue circle facing down usually
Well at least lava survived to tank the patriot spear
Safe distance from Patriot and decent amount of coverage on Frost Nova
Yeah ill try that next time
Also if possible
Do that visit on F5 or somethin
Coz Time and Light makes all Thought +1 Toil
Thats painful if you are cultivating Shrivels
oh that sucks
Which visit
Victory Rewind
Hoalso yeah this wasn't as hard as i thought
Yea
wisadel shits on patriot normally and he has reduced stats here iirc. maybe not the case on higher diff though
Well I always do that one in F5 so
Didnt feel the difficulty
F5 usually I got thousands of Relics already
So i was supposed to do this fragment on f5?
Didn't know damn
Time and Light Relic makes all Thoughts +1
And usually we cultivate Shrivels so we want all the Thoughts inventory
nvm silvergun lied 😔. he has more damage but less health than h7-4 patriot (d0)
What I usually do is to spend Shrivels at F4 leaving only like 5 to make some space for that Relic at F5
How do you even check that info
Then cultivate the remaining 5 Shrivels until F6
How do you make those
there's tomimi.dev and there's arkmaps
Wait until more smart people than us break into code and put stats on arkmap tomimi-dev prts 
Oh damn is this it
Shrivel and Sprout. The 2 Star Lingerer that once combined, give you Relic
Yeah thats it but your Life Points is not at 1 so you cant get all 4 of them 😂😂
Brooooo
Ashforged Ruins F3 there
What a waste rip
Quite early you got that
Can i not get it again? My bag is full of plans lol
Not again lol
tomimi.dev: https://tomimi.dev/en
arkmaps: https://map.ark-nights.com/areas
tomimi has a section just for is5 and a difficulty stats calculator stage-by-stage
Gg boss was kaltsit
Could not cover 2 lanes woth 4 cancer pillars covering ab 8x8 area
I botched it, i did not have enough dp to aggro the dron summoner dudes
It targeted the revenant and hit wis
oh rip
I should have started with tin man anyway idk why i went with medic+caster
there's probably some revenant spawn manipulation you could've done but idk if you have enough ops for that
from my bit of experience tinman does pretty well in that stage for low diff atleast
he's able to take care of the 2 cancer pillars
Yeah but it just happened to occupy like half the blue box side
I had to put wis near the red boxes so she got hit by drones
How could you fail at simple additive of difficulty buffs into multiplicative of per D per floor stat increase 
😂
Second run is going better
500k sounds menacing in paper but it's not in practice. The Silence, Painful Happiness, and all that usually bring it down to like 300k
And then you get a 98k per shot run like this #strategy message
Gone in secs
I did not even use Kaltsit with Civilight Eterna
in practice Al-Rafiq has 500k 
I dont play RA 
I kinda like him too, but from dps perspective he is kinda mid
I'll see what I can do when the time comes
If funding is tight I'm considering skipping
He seems op in is with sp relics and stuff

going for thornstar huh
well, me will say its bad decision
God gives his hardest battles to his strongest soldiers or however the saying goes
Thornstar, Clownslayer, ReaperMom. Try to stop me 
hahahaha
he just remind me of blemi, jack of all trade type of ops
but didnt excell on any of it
Probably gonna save up for eblana after yu lmao
ReaperMom its such a letdown
to think she that weak, coping her survivability would do something but turn out is do nothing :icant:
ARE YOU SERIOUS three in a row
i honestly dont think she's that bad. like yeah she has low dph but that doesnt mater for a vast majority of enemies. she's kinda a fedex sidegrade imo. i think most people are a bit too harsh on her
i might do like a proper calculation later but as long as the enemy has like below 1200 defence or smthn, she can deal double strikes against them until the skill runs out of duration since her damage and the damage from candle are equal, which would mean that the 60% of the health thing of the candle doesnt matter
I thonk the leading argument is that she doesn't really offer anything new, therefore skip
She's one of those ops that if you have her, good on you
if that's the leading arguement against her then fair honestly
she's basically a fedex sidegrade
she's about in the same position as pepe where she doesnt necessarily offer anything we dont have already
hmm?
elaborate pls
harsh? idk, sidegrade to fedex i can agree if didnt count his mod
because fedex no mod are mid
just literally mid
while pluma is the best reaper design (kit) wise
the only bad thing about her is she got 5* treatment
I have a burning hatred for this stage
mainly that she's auto recovery and has about 6k dps
Hahah S2 ReaperMom go brrrr
her main problem is low physical damage numbers since she deals about 2k physical damage
I still am not a fan of unhealable units
I'm fan of stupid things because i have emergency meta at each corner of base
I love unhealable unit cus i always bring skalter
dont tell them i told you about this hidden tech. zuo le spalter s1 hidden sp battery tech
what is bro saying...
😂
🤫
he's saying dont tell them i told you about this hidden tech. zuo le spalter s1 hidden sp battery tech
LOL
I activate logos s1
Hey I want digital artist if anyone interested dm me
erm
why is your first message on this server a request for an artist in #strategy
Maybe its part of their strategy 🤫
dont tell anyone about their hidden tech
strategy to scam 
🤫
literally anyone: bla-bla-bla dm me
Me: how about i dont
This is why someone broke your heart
Nah bruhhh
I want another epiphany
Dude just watch youtube 8+ years old videos idk
I noticed on some Arknights wiki pages, Beanstalk’s S2 sp cost is listed as lower than her in-game sp cost. Was Beanstalk nerfed recently?
"some wiki" thanks for diractions, just need to visit one of 62 trillion sites to find that page
The broken one has space 💔
Outdated wisdom for modern times 🚮
Screw wisdom. comedy
Sorry for not specifying. The two pages I looked at recently for Beanstalk stats:
https://arknights.wiki.gg/wiki/Beanstalk
and
Compared to what I see in game:
Thats strange
There's been no history of any nerfing
More likely the wiki is just wrong
The closest thing we got to a nerf is hg removing momentum on shifters upon retreat, which they argue is a "bug fix"
Bug fix my ass, momentum is a real life phenomenon
If i throw this rock, it wont suddenly stop moving cus its already out of my hands
Thank you for verifying! Wanted to confirm the skill stats before I M3-ed one of them for use.
s2 is just a way better skill overall
Lets you block a maximum of 5 in normal circumstances
Those idiots wrote S1 skill cost in S2. For people who work in Confluence it was Wednesday
cant you still do this though?
I heard it was here during Coop on CN and people rofled from Lowlight trying to recall gladiia after pull on ball minigame. But i think it returned afterwards
or not 
Brb
Lmao
A victim to his own machinations
Brb too (and by that i mean im going to have an 8 hour nap)
That is no nap
8 hour nap. sheeeeesh
Too lazy to boot up recording, tried with gladdia S2, Weedy S3, everything works outside my motivation which died somewhere last week
next event is jessica, next limited should be lappalter
Laugh in Collab and PvZ2 event

that pvz2 event looks cinema
Also was angry catto before or after lapp?
nice

okay thanks
WHY DIDNT YOU MENTION IT SOONER I COULD'VE PULLED FOR AAK ON MY SECOND ACCOUNT 😭
i totally forgot they were getting it broooooooooooooo
You seem to be taking it well 
is there another kernel locating with aak before then??
or does the pool change for EN?
Don't bother. Everyone will be playing Clownslayer who is immune to Aak
everyone? wdym everyone? you mean me?
Tbf, I didn’t see any aak griefers back in first icebreaker
i should've done it more
I seen like 1 Aak player and he gave me Silence Alter S3 before Aak
Gentleman he was then
Fuck Blemishine paradox
(Note for myself, make sure to not start paradox on e2 1)
they're all clearable at sl7 e2 1
I got the one with Shining
There are some genuine Aak players out there honestly
But its like 1% only
The remaining 99% are trolls
I hated that maps didn't had many Fuze S2 spots 
I running out of grindstones from how many bipolars my PMC (Pharmacy Military Company
) consumes
Thanks to Mostima i know paradox don't count toward module unlock... Shit 
Theres yu for icebreaker now, put him in the back, use s2 to pull enemies closer to the blue box then retreat
What are like the unit requirements to beat this damn stage
I kept hearing in #help you need a LOT of vanguards
Unit requirement is funny word when we don't know what you have in mod without friend supporting at map which players with bunch elite 2 operators do with closed eyes
When I'm facing troublesome/boss stage in RA main map I prefer to get next 3 day cycle save and then save scam to it if I fail to refund acts
An unleveled Humus, Jackie and Matoimaru are cut off in the Guard Screenshot.
None have Modules.
If they're E1 or above assume they have Lv 7 skills because I don't remember who actually has Lv 7 skills but a majority do.
Please don't do by class screenshots next time, empty space is wasted and most players know half of operators by heart - just rarity sort by all classes next time.
I personally would skip doing RA for now or use score grinding methods for shop sweep. It will be hard to advance with so few high level operators. You will probably die to day 30 raid or sooner
Oh wait RA easy mode exists... I didn't touch it and don't know how much it requires to feel comfortable. Maybe #reclamation-algorithm-hub know
Oh... There's a designated channel... 
I second what Minus said. Seems like you are severely underleveled atm. Would recommend you to wrap up the Main Stories first and wait til you pulled a couple more useful 6 Stars before re-exploring that game mode. RA is quite end-gamey.
Can confirm what arf said, RA favours a very end game roster
RA rewards easier to clear than IS for me, and i do it without any operator.
10k point per 2 minutes.
make use of craftable tools like battlement and reactive barriers, i can confirm that it's doable as long as you have a strong dps and block the chargers using a mixture of fast redeploy units and barriers, you can cheese the rock stage with shirayuki
Well score farming in RA consists of crafting glowsticks over and over so
you get so many resources that i'd say it's worth trying it
My first placement of wisadel was awful. thank god gladdia is tanky and has cc
That is still awful
It worked tho
Good for you
i always deploy my ops in the bottom left, eyja+greyalt and logos+nara 
i skipped asca
i’m still ethan user
I have no idea what happened, but boss dead 
im on floor 2. who should i pick for specialist? only e2 i have are aak or mizuki, but i have the general use e1 lower stars
and e1 gladiia
I will proceed to clown on ur Myrtle
Cuz whytf did you get mod before m3 😭
And why is Myrtle l70
ngl idk
Anyway just pick gravel
Aak and mizuki don’t seem good for is
I’m assuming this is is5
Right?
Yeah just take gravel
Ideally you’d have heavier hitters for spec ticket
The the frd trio
Ascalon
Gladiia if you have/will get ulpi
ELA
i dont
Ye then ur Gladiia is only really useful for maybe ed2 phase 2
i dont have many spec...
You’ll get a lot eventually
😔 i want the texas alter i borrow her all the time
Tbh I barely use/recruit her much anymore
texalt is very useful in is5, like the robot stage or the car stage or for cleaning the theresis clones in ed2
Texas is my 2nd priority after Asca
Higher than Ela lol
I want het Arts damage
S2
Freakin powerful
what other vanguard should i take? i have e2 bp and sage then some e1 lower star
Ines would be ideal hmm
as in mitm and vigna
Oof
i got so many deploy limit relics, almost everyone deployed and the poor pat got brrr 
i can build beanstalk since i see other ppl take her?
Beanstalk is good for opening only
When you get to F3, you should have a couple of 6 Stars by then
Then you bench Beanstalk
Oh I also use Beanstalk's Crabs to bait this and bait that
I have this + gravel rn
Especially Simulated Skirmish
is that the caster stage?
If you do Simulated Skirmish under Flourishing Suffering Epoch
The Crabs wont get 70% reduced HP
Very useful for baiting the mortars
Nah bro how do I survive emer skirmish in general 😭
Ic ive been using deepcolor to bait stuff rn
Deepcolor works too yeah
I put any op down and dual mortar just bodies them
I usually just use Beanstalk to bait mortars and generate DP
Then deploy Tin Man/Medic and Wis immediately
So should I build beanstalk and select her
Mortars will switch to Wis but Tin Man/Medic will heal
@full terrace You do d15 right, is wis tin man bean still viable there
Interesting. I don't have those 2
Where do you get tin man?
Yeh its viable, but not 100% stable
Sometimes I tripped and Signal Lost there 😂
I’m guessing you need 8 hope start, no?
It'd be better if you have Medic by then
Coz you can do Medic + Wis right away
Plop plop
And let mortars body Wis
Wait do you do blueprint or snipe medic squad
I do all kind of Squads
The only medic I have built ng, kal, reedalter and 2 aren't really heal medics
Those are plenty powerful
Its funny cuz snipe medic has such an easy early game, but is kinda hard to emer farm late game
But blueprint is vice versa
Yah Blueprint is brutal
Tin Man x Beanstalk cant even kill that Bad Neighbors' Spine
I'm massively annoyed
It's doable in around d12
But not d15
Cant kill Spine = no extra Plans early run
Its brutal
So snipe medic is better d15, or should I try to brute force blueprint
Instant E2 is always a massive advantage
True
I'm overjoyed if I get Sniper Voucher first fight
That barely happens to me 
blueprint take click for a reason
Its easy around the end of the run with 1000 Relics
But early run man..
You have no idea how many Signal Losts I have gotten, and had to do Doodle rush to F3 for +2 Hope or Kettle 😂
Pass points?
Or go emer farm to ed3
Ya
Like if I wanna finish the pass as fast as possible
Next month
Oh
Hmm
Rush ed1 I suppose
With Blueprint Doodle
I mean an optimal run will give you 2k-ish only anyway
Might as well do Fremont rush but got 1k-ish
I see
With ¼ the time
Rushable until around d12 I guess?
But is the idea to constantly reroll into encounters?
Into Encounters yeah
F3 fight dont make it alter fight
Then grab King Relics for Fremont fight
For IS5 is there a four star tier list? I’ve only got like 3 built, and I don’t wanna waste my resources on useless ones
for the most part its the same as the typical 4 star tier list in general content, i.e cutter, ethan, totter, etc
The LP Shield +1, and then if you have any LP Shield at the start of the battle, your operators get +60% HP
What channel is the m3 priority tier list pinned?
M what? 😅
Im not sure if it does
@remote perch woh I didnt know you are a mind reader, you can know what ops someone has 😲
Hello
how to get another ending in this ?
did you beat ending 1 yet?
There is a detailed instruction at wiki
the coffin boss?
But basically for ending 2 you need to get the Lingerer on F2
yes
yeah I did
f2 first prophecy have "the two crown each other" option now. pick that, interpret and voila: you're done
Thanks guys
Oh yeah im Reading it now on wiki
Also
Is this reclamation algorithm the sand permanent mode?
tales within the sand
which medic should i pick?
Ng
which IS is this and do you have all 3 e2?
is5 these are my only e2 medics
are you going for a certain ending?
