strategy

[brisk surge]

i almost got it with arturia+kalsit but i leaked

was not prepared for the fight honestly

i put my Wis here on the red tile but she dies to something, im not sure what actually hit her so im just asking in case anyone would have any idea

[limpid ore]

other option is to leak theresis at phase 1 so you only lose 30 HP instead of 99 HP from phase 2

[remote perch]

Virt isn't really that great option since sure her necrosis can ignore the dr, but since it's a fixed value her dmg output is really small

You probably get more out of that ticket with Suzu buffing Monst3rs dmg

[brisk surge]

30 hp

i was running 1 for the relic

[remote perch]

Use shield

[brisk surge]

i see

[remote perch]

You can get alot of shield from converting thoughts into shield using False to Truth

[brisk surge]

yeah my run was bricked tbf, ill try again in a few hours and see how it goes

[full terrace]

@pure orchid Ha! Lets gooo

Tomorrow gonna be fun

[brisk surge]

he woned

[wicked minnow]

hf on diff 15

[full terrace]

Thanks ☺️

[pure orchid]

0 normal battles again

[full terrace]

Blueprint Squad broken

[pure orchid]

Im not using it yet

I wanna clear with other squads first before i get drunk on power

[full terrace]

Once you get drunk you will never be sober again

[latent anvil]

ijs reedd alt good in is4

[full terrace]

60+ Relics is crazy bro. D14 felt like D1

[full terrace]

Yah she is a good starter for IS4

Altho nowadays people just do Wisadel start

If you do Wisadel be careful of Spiked Chests.

[latent anvil]

i thought she dont die to that one

my reedalt not even take dmg

oh w

anyway is reed first medic to get then

[blissful wren]

What Skill for Tin Man should I get to M3?

[dapper hedge]

She sucks against no more than 4

[slim wyvern]

S2 feels generally better because it can be triggered without enemies around if you want the healing, bigger radius, higher damage, etc.

[timber girder]

any tips for court visit? i assume thats ending 2 for is5, on d1, just starting out

i checked out eckogen’s video on it but he mostly used texalter and i dont have her 😭

[dark mantle]

use shu to teleport theresis when walks to blue box on phase 1
or shifters if you have -weight relics or shift strength inspirers
or bruteforce it with true damage
or bruteforce it with phys/arts with giga relics

[remote perch]

Oh you're supposed to wait for him to walk to the blue box before using Shu

No wonder my attempt failed on doing shu

I was trying to shift him first then shu him

[limpid ore]

or leak him at phase 1 so you dont need to deal with phase 2 shenaningan

[elfin mason]

i hate this map ughhh

why the module quest map for Click is at 11-7

[somber falcon]

Because hg says so

[elfin mason]

lol

played 10-11 like over 7 hours and still stuck there

[somber falcon]

What's your roster

[elfin mason]

4stars

i have no idea anymore

[brisk surge]

what is ch10 mechanic again? mudrock?

[elfin mason]

yeah

the cannon

[brisk surge]

oh yeah that one is quite annoying

[elfin mason]

the cannon help us

[brisk surge]

trotter is quite strong

im not that much of a 4 star gamer

but trotter's raw stats are basically a 5 star

[elfin mason]

agree

the goated

but his s2 does lesser performance when there are multiple enemies on his attack range

[brisk surge]

that is true, i might build him for some IS runs someday

[elfin mason]

actually i use him most of 4 star only IS playing

3rd floor boss killer

especially for this boss

[brisk surge]

yeah hes great

being a 0 cost is so good

[elfin mason]

his E2 can solo that

imagine all IS5 run without any cost

115 ranked up but 0 cost total run

[brisk surge]

honestly playing 4 star only is quite incredible, i wonder if ethan stall would help with ch 10

[elfin mason]

oh i forgot about ethan lol

even he is best 4 star op ever

i guess i had to try 10-11 with ethan

[pearl breach]

Use ethan early for the top part if possible.

[elfin mason]

wait its not CM

[scarlet fulcrum]

Thats not adverse indeed

[warm leaf]

So, we can get 3rd ending without finishing 2nd ending first in is5 huh...that's good

[pearl breach]

The only single core I can do rn

Cant send the video

Files too big

Walter setup should be like this, using S2

Just need to cycle the healers skill and bait the bomb using defender

[split valley]

heyoo i need help with 2-7 the under lvl 30s r E1

i found out shaw can be a cheat here

ouch

shaw didn’t push anything

[scarlet fulcrum]

Lv up her skill to lv4

i remember rangers can solo the drone here

[split valley]

ok

i didnt place her right

i thought that black spot next to the fans was a hole

[scarlet fulcrum]

The hole is empty space on top left, if u hold tap, it will pop description

Shaw facing up, smt like this. Raise ur kroos and kick adna. He will prio ranged enemies iirc. So yea. Dont invest on Jess anymore

[split valley]

those junkman, i need a caster but idk how to fit in squad

oh i can take out adna

[scarlet fulcrum]

Just use ur fang alter face up(in arene place), if u have steward raise him too

[split valley]

my best caster is emiya

[scarlet fulcrum]

She is worse than steward sadly

[split valley]

awww

[scarlet fulcrum]

Just use physical its fine, u have enough power, even lava e0 works if u want arts

[split valley]

my stewards good

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yeah very good, also raise ur kroos. Steward fine at e1 lv1

U can kick adna or jess

[split valley]

i kicked both

just i cant 3 star it

[scarlet fulcrum]

U raised kroos?

[split valley]

yeah

[scarlet fulcrum]

Wao

Just think rangers is kroos

Its doesn't have to be now, but raise kroos skill lv to 7 if u could

[glass monolith]

Wait there is no drone going left?

[split valley]

hmm i could skip and do l8r

[scarlet fulcrum]

Nope, only to right

[glass monolith]

Huh. So earlier stages are much less bullshit than I assumed.

[scarlet fulcrum]

Rangers can solo drones because of that yea

[split valley]

mybe this is so hard cuz i haven’t played in a long while since last yr

[scarlet fulcrum]

Maybe, lost in touch

[split valley]

yeah

[scarlet fulcrum]

Also check ur mail and depots, i think the new freebies still there. Insta e2 and selector for 5*

[split valley]

ok ill luk

who would be best??

im thinking lappland

i want ayerscape tho

[narrow pendant]

Lapp

[split valley]

ok

[narrow pendant]

Ayer isnt that great

Not awful but

[pure orchid]

You’re great

[narrow pendant]

You too hubby

[split valley]

idk

[pure orchid]

Imo canta>pluma>rockrock=kazemaur

[split valley]

corro is a guy??

[foggy grove]

ye

[split valley]

oki i pick him

but cantas sooo prettyyy

and shes the best choice right

[pure orchid]

Arguably

[split valley]

ok

[pure orchid]

Pluma is replaceable by humus
Rock by click
Kaze… i cant remember my justification

Meanwhile we have yet to get a 4-star agent that is good
Puzzle is free but

[foggy grove]

eeeeeh

click and humus doesn't even come close to that

[pure orchid]

Yes but my point of irreplaceability still stands

5-stars and 4-stars will always be simply different

[foggy grove]

that's not how it works but sure

anyhow it just depends on where you are
pluma best if your roster still lacking

[scarlet fulcrum]

Corro is trash, dont

[pure orchid]

He’s one of the worst picks tbh

[split valley]

i chose canta

[scarlet fulcrum]

uh sure, she is one of good pick

[sly drift]

IS#3 diff 18 is up?

What's new beside the diffs

[narrow pendant]

Its not

[tidal sedge]

From tomorrow

[glass monolith]

Dual fucking curses because F you

[full terrace]

Doing this anni in year 6

[tired eagle]

bully

[olive swan]

Is indigo goos for a caster?

Which caster should I use only two?

[civic bear]

just use those two 3* for now. id go for click if theres any to work on e2. indigo is a good 2nd but she need quite an investment for mod

generally double st caster is strong enough for most content. which would be steward click

[tiny ore]

I’m looking for tips on how to beat H9-5. My idea was to block the middle lane and force all the enemies to go to the right side of the map. For some reason the fireball dude managed to break the pillar blocking the middle lane, causing leaks (I swear the pillars’ hitbox are amplified specifically in this stage)

Here are my rosters + a borrowed Thorns to deal with the Gargoyle and the hover men

[civic bear]

i assume you went something liek this

pathing green lines

if you block at the cyan square, the fireball explosion destroys dropped pillar so avoid those

you can block there if the dropped pillar under it doesnt exist so the fireball go takes the short path and doesnt just snipe the pillar on top middle

yellow pillar is not required its just to make the path longer

[tiny ore]

plus this as well

[civic bear]

yea the rest of the pillars can use to kill mobs

[tiny ore]

I also tried to push the left pillar down to try and make the fireball sort of curve

but it didnt work

[civic bear]

that one doesnt change much

cuz broken pillar cant exist in undeployable tile

[tiny ore]

yea

I’ll try to assasinate the fireball dude asap

[civic bear]

should be somewhat managable

as long as you setup

far away

so that fireballs take long way

thats why ideally right side

fireball deals less damage the more it travels

[stuck jewel]

Is there any difference between these two if we ignore the number

Cause if it’s number wise the left would be better right? Why are they spaced differently? Maybe I’m missing out?

[full terrace]

Equally useless things, left better

The better Relics are the one that give Initial SP

[bold lance]

they are spaced differently because "+0.35/s" is one symbol longer and can't be reasonably carried to the next line.

[full terrace]

I think they stack with Ptilopsis passive? Never tested myself

Anyway, you may as well bring this if you want SP

Or grab some Initial SP Relics, those are much more impactful

[long crypt]

are there any operators that can selectively damage another operator? I want to use amiya s2 with lumen but lumen cant heal nondamaged ops

[full terrace]

Aak

Be careful when hitting Amiya tho, she prob cant survive his durian stench

[bold lance]

Warfarin seems like a less finicky option. But the overall effectiveness of the setup seems dubious. 3 squad slots just to remove a 10 second stun...

[long crypt]

I was just thinking about ways to make lavalter useful but seems like bring 2 casters is just better

Or maybe it works out because you can immediately place them and save dp for other slots because good casters are expensive

Actually lava + amiya is already 40 and you need to place lava first

[bold lance]

I am not exactly following what are you even trying to achieve here. Giving 5 sp to a 100 sp/0 initial sp Amiya?

[long crypt]

Oh its only 5

That sucks even more lol

[willow sun]

for starters i was assuming no mod because mod is kind of pointless (and if you include their modded stats then you should also consider 0.6 elem healing ratio instead of 0.5), otherwise i have no idea how you got mulberry to have 504 atk, at e2 lv50 trust 100 pot1 she has only 393 and honey has 382
i forgot about honey’s base 50% so i was calculating 300% not 350% i’ll admit that, making it 1337 (nice) healing over 3 seconds to up to 2 ops, but mul’s s1 scales her atk to 180% and then also scales the elemental healing it deals by 180% to 0.9, so she effectively receives a 1.62x elemental healing boost up to roughly 700
assuming one target: given mul has 2 charges (not unlikely) and honey has her skill ready as well, mul would dish out 1400 over the course of 2.85 seconds and have 1 charge back before her next attack comes out whereas honey would dish out the aforementioned 1337 over 3 seconds (+1 extra basic attack for 1528) and be roughly 75% back to her skill before her next attack
over a prolonged period of time honey also suffers significantly due to sp lockout and her attack interval aligning horribly with her sp cost (2.85s atk vs 4 sp), whereas mul can just store another charge and give herself leniency
over a more prolonged period of time against 1 op, mul suffers greatly, with her skill functionally being a 6sp skill, cutting the elemental healing sourcing from her skill by roughly 35%, which matters a lot since it’s where the majority of her elemental healing comes from
in the case of multiple ops though honey still comes out clearly on top even with these added limitations

hopefully my attempt at formatting on mobile is still somewhat clear

mul will always be better at healing though since she can have up to 15% extra atk from other medics (not gonna argue how that’s gonna affect elem cause bringing 2 healers for mid elem healing is even dumber) and she actually has a multiplier on her regular healing unlike honey

[bold lance]

Sir, this is a Wendy's. The Honeyberry/Mulberry talk was like an hour ago in #help

[willow sun]

yeah i sent it here cause i don’t want to flood help

[wicked minnow]

uhhh im not reading all that. they are both elemental healers whose names dont start with eyja. they are both ass

[full terrace]

Yeah both are pretty garbage. Most of the time they cant even keep up with the Elemental Damage. The play is to just let your ops tank the Elemental Burst, and then heal using normal Medics.

Unless it's Eyja

[steady moth]

With everything maxed out Honeyberry has 375 base + 35 trust = 410 attack. I was off a little, Mulberry has a maximum of (388 base + 35 trust + 35 module) * 1.15 talent (w/ 2nd medic on field) or 527 maximum Attack. I was factoring in her talent is all to give her that edge since it’s common to run a 2nd healer with a cleanser.

I see that you are factoring in that her skill charges a second faster for the initial burst.

In reality the numbers will be somewhere in between. Healing at max speed occasionally mulberry gets one extra proc of her skill that honeyberry won’t get, basically.

Are you certain Mulberry’s skill raises her Attack to 1.8x while simultaneously raising the cleanse ratio by 1.8x, effectively cleansing by 1.8 x 1.8 x 0.6 = 1.944x her original base Attack (or 1.62x w/o module)?

By my limited testing of the two side by side and the wording both I assumed they just calculate the healing and cleansing and multiply both simultaneously once by 1.8x… so she’d go from 100% healing and 60% cleansing to 180% healing and 108% cleansing and wouldn’t get to double up. That’d put her much further behind Honeyberry.

My tests may simply be flawed, though. Does PRTS talk about this skill at all? They usually have an in depth description of exactly how every skill works.

Either way, I’ll go by your calculations, the general recommendation is still the same. Honeyberry S1 for cleansing or Mulberry S2 for a good combination of healing a cleansing. Mulberry S1 is in a weird place where it gains a bit of single target healing but loses a bit of multi target healing and a lot of multi target cleansing.

There’s a lot of enemies and situations where you need to cleanse multiple ops. For example, weather effects in RA hit the whole team at once, bosses like IS3 Ed1 hit several allies at once, stuff like flowers and eggs have AoE… it’s too big an advantage to give up for marginally better healing.

The only use I see for it is saving red certs on Honeyberry, which is a reasonable decision since either can do the job most of the time tbh.

[merry narwhal]

That's a lot of text, what about Harryberry

I don't use honey anymore because the archetype's healing is too low to solo heal most content

[wicked minnow]

Uhhhh

e2 level 50 skill level 7

yeah my memory is about right, her s1 is ass for elemental damage imo

that's without module aswell. even if you doubled its effectiveness, honeyberry would still be better

[narrow pendant]

I mean wasnt that already known

Honey is better for elem healing while mul for normal healing

both suck tho

[lofty stag]

fredi theyve been going at this for the past like 3 hours

[wicked minnow]

no clue. i think they werent sure how mulberry s1 works. i just remember it being beyond saving

[narrow pendant]

Scary schizo people

[lofty stag]

welcome to #help, wait

welcome to #strategy?

[willow sun]

i’m assuming you’re running e2 lv80 or pot5 stats while i’m suing e2 lv50 pot1
i didn’t include mul talent since i wanted to make it an objective one on one comparison
she would gain a pretty big boost from +10%/+15% atk
i’m basing mulberry’s skill off of aceship’s description as “heal scale: 1.8” and “heal ratio: 0.9” which makes it sound like 90% of 1.8x her base healing, maybe it’s just bad wording though
over say 30 seconds honey would trigger her skill 7.5 times in optimal conditions, but since her atk interval is 2.85s and sp lockout (not sure how long it would last) it’s more likely to trigger only 5 times across 10 attacks, so i’ll say she’d heal 5730 elem healing from skill and 1910 elem healing from basic attacks for 7640 total (one op, so double for 2)
mul on the other hand would trigger her s1 on every attack assuming she started with 2 stacks since she would only be “losing” 0.15sp out of 6 sp “stored” in her charges, lasting 40 attacks (114 seconds), so 3537 total
if my guess on 162% atk as elem healing instead of 90%, then it’d be 6367 which is why i thought they were on par
assuming you’re right with just 0.9 from here on out: with her talent bonus it’d be 3891 mod0/4430 mod3

[narrow pendant]

💀 💀

[merry narwhal]

Their range is nice but the healing is so bad that I just time skills better to ignore necrosis and use a healer with actual hps instead.

[lofty stag]

aint no way

[willow sun]

uhh i’m also dumb and for some reason i was including honey’s base attack 50% elem healing when her skill… modifies her base attack

so i was severely overestimating her regardless

[narrow pendant]

Theres no way youre going for this long about a 5* noone cares about

[willow sun]

difference between 140% and 90% (or 212% or 162%)

[narrow pendant]

Please find a better use of your time

[willow sun]

its fun

[narrow pendant]

😭

[willow sun]

i’d rather not studying for my physics midterm

shit boring asf

[narrow pendant]

But u finna nerd about a bad game character?

[willow sun]

you bet

[narrow pendant]

This is how u fail

[lofty stag]

im forced to be studying for me midterms cause they be hard asf

[willow sun]

i’m doing fine actually

[narrow pendant]

i dont study either, i have a math test tmr and i know fuck all

[lofty stag]

calculus?

[narrow pendant]

I have no idea how its called in english

Aritmetic continuation?

I guess, idk

💀

[lofty stag]

oh nah are you in pure math or something

[narrow pendant]

Or sequence

[lofty stag]

idfk what that means

or maybe i forgot

[willow sun]

i can help

unless you’re like

year 3 uni

idk

[narrow pendant]

Bro im 19

[lofty stag]

guess what

[willow sun]

ok then we chilling

[lofty stag]

werent you 19 2 years ago

[willow sun]

im 18

[lofty stag]

tf

[narrow pendant]

No

[lofty stag]

i thought yall had jobs 😭

[narrow pendant]

U didnt know me 2 years ago wtf

I do

[steady moth]

Ngl, I am out of energy to think about this. I think we’ve gone on long enough about, uh, honeyberry vs mulberry. Kekw.

[narrow pendant]

Bad vs worse

[willow sun]

yeah i just maffed cause i was schizo and fucked up my parrot LMAO

[steady moth]

S’okay.

[willow sun]

i swear though i was told by like 6 people that honey was the healer and mul was the cleanser

[lofty stag]

ergo, those people are schizo

[willow sun]

honesty definitely has a higher healing cap though

honey**

but requires 2 ops to be under elem pressure to be significant which is rare

then again again just eyjaberry

[narrow pendant]

Its that shit eith like An = Ak × (n-k) × d
And so

[steady moth]

It’s not that rare, all of RA2 is filled with shit like corrosive rain and burning sun that requires you to cleanse a full team.

[lofty stag]

thank god i aint in pure math

[willow sun]

otherwise it’s like a 20% difference (or 80% if i’m wrong about mul’s s1)

[willow sun]

oh right RA exists

[steady moth]

[narrow pendant]

I have 0 idea what that means

Pure math? More like pure meth

[lofty stag]

you still in high school or in uni now

[willow sun]

the fuck is an ra and why is the rain corrosive

[willow sun]

prob uni

[narrow pendant]

No

[lofty stag]

the brits may have it different prob

[willow sun]

wtf

[narrow pendant]

Who tf are u calling a brit

[willow sun]

i started uni at 17 this isn’t fair 🥹

[lofty stag]

why are you in uni at 17

[willow sun]

legit started ak so i wouldn’t lose my mind of boredom

[lofty stag]

you some kinda gifted genius

[willow sun]

idk i think i skipped a grade somewhere down the line
do not recommend, socializing is very hard when everyone is a year or two older than you

it genuinely sucks

[lofty stag]

yah i can see why youd wanna play ak

[willow sun]

[lofty stag]

i started ak cuz i heard lappy en voice

it was all it took

[narrow pendant]

I started ak cuz i wanted a better gambling target

[willow sun]

my friend tried to get me into ak back in hs like a year after en release (or maybe it was on release) but i didn’t listen

i could’ve been a year 1 player

[lofty stag]

but then you couldve been amigo

no one wants that curse

[willow sun]

shit i could’ve played on CN release if i knew about it

[willow sun]

is amigo a group or a person

i only know the person amigo

is there some secret amigo organization i’m unaware of

[lofty stag]

a ak player who we regularly make fun of for being old

cuz he was a beta tester apparently

and usually forgets stuff also

[willow sun]

oh so the person amigo lol

[full terrace]

@pure orchid look at that 8.7k atk Wisadel 😂

🤣 🤣

[tidal sedge]

I see Gummy

[full terrace]

That was my first ed2 attempt, and that run was garbage (I didnt get enough vouchers), I dont wanna make a recording on a garbage run 😂😂

Relics were really good tho, I got this

[rotund fern]

Is this combo good? Or do I need to pull any other operator?

I just got nymph a minute ago

[full terrace]

Combo for?

[rotund fern]

Main story

[full terrace]

Thats plenty powerful

[sterile delta]

"combo" would be strong enough for main story even if you removed logos and nymph

[full terrace]

👆

[rotund fern]

I don't know, my friend tell me that it will be good if you combine that's 3

[sterile delta]

not really greater than the sum of their parts, its just two cracked operators + a good op

[rotund fern]

Let me just beat the story first

[lunar light]

I hate the strat vids tagged [LOW END SQUAD] that start with "First, pick 2E90 Wizadel/Ling for your support unit"

Like dude
You missed the point

[remote perch]

It is low end
because you can just borrow that unit

[glass monolith]

Low End means everyone can copy, you seek low rarity for no bullshit friend supports most of times

[pure orchid]

Low end basically means cheap, and borrowing is free
Thats the cheapest you can get

Yeah low rarity is prolly what you're looking for

[full terrace]

The thing about Low-End guide is that, you need to have a certain degree of dps to kill stuff. By going in on a squad full of E1 units, you dont possess the necessary dps, hence the Support Unit. The E1 units are for the strategy portion of the guide e.g. blocking for the Support Unit to kill, bait damage to keep X and Y operators alive, etc. Low-End guide is for people who just started playing with limited resources and barely any units built. When you already got the resources to E2 stuff, if you play good enough you dont need guides anymore.

[lapis hornet]

i need guides

[full terrace]

If you want the guide to strictly use Low-Rarity units, then those units must be E2-ed, otherwise there just isnt enough damage to kill stuff. Check Dr. Silvergun at youtube if this is what you are looking for.

[long epoch]

If you are not stuck with the stage mechanics, you will be mostly fine if you have solid basics. Generally, you can get around with tank and spank and try to isolate or delay potential threats with things.

Being too focused with the low-ended could be detrimental in the long term.

Some event mechanics can even solve the stages by themselves if you know what you are doing.

[full terrace]

@pure orchid yooo 9.7k atk Monster 🤣

Hit freaking harder than my previous Wisadel

Empty Fowlbeast + Timeworn Poetry Strips 😂

I'm trying all the methods on Theresis

First was Shu's teleport, now Kaltsit's True Damage

Empty Fowlbeast is really good for ending 2. It boosts Wisadel's atk and Kaltsit's True Damage both.

I'm curious what Kaltsit's Monster can do with Civilight Eterna

[wicked ibex]

yo, trying to do death of a patriot for like a hour trying to follow a guide, but I just realized that in the guide there isn't the jetpack fuckers that appear before killing 18 enemies. The boss fight changed?

[foggy grove]

what kind of ancient guide you are watching

[full terrace]

The helidrop enemies? There should be. Which guide are you using?

[foggy grove]

abusing the kill gates

[wicked ibex]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45zj2hLnx5c&t=300s

[foggy grove]

figures

🥹

[full terrace]

Lemme go watch and investigate real quick

Brb

[dapper hedge]

Damn 4 years old

[foggy grove]

have you read this

or alternatively borrow wisadel or some shit nd turn your brain off

[wicked ibex]

I'm trying to do that, but maybe my amiya isn't doing enought damage...

[wicked ibex]

I'm about to do that

[full terrace]

Okay I just watched this

It's the killgate

At 18

Here you see

He keeps the last 2 enemies alive

Cuora tanking and nobody is around to kill them

Keeping them alive will not trigger the next wave

[wicked ibex]

I tried, still dropping random helidrops...

[scarlet mortar]

lmao kyo actually used a killgate in a strat

[scarlet mortar]

pat needs to die before the 18th enemy in that stage spawns

any later and the killgate doesn't work

[wicked ibex]

got it

one more try, if it doesn't work I will give up use wis...

[steel atlas]

Hei

How to do the Mizuki IS thing?

I'm always dead

And goes restart

[narrow pendant]

The same way you do the phantom one

Play, die, learn and repeat

All IS is a fuck around amd find out

[steel atlas]

What ...

[autumn aurora]

I hate the Twins so Much

[narrow pendant]

The ice twins?

[autumn aurora]

The Ending where you Face Theresis and Theresa

Siblings, not Twins

[narrow pendant]

Oh

[autumn aurora]

I had, what I thought was a Pretty good squad; aside from healing; and got my ass handed to me.

[full terrace]

True Damage (Kaltsit), Teleport (Shu), Shift (Gladiia) you need either one of these for Phase 2.

[dapper hedge]

Logos+virt should've worked fine for Theresis, nymph is preferable than logos tho

[autumn aurora]

I got Logos before Virt, if was other way round woulda taken Nymph

Only Two not shown were Kiara and Luo, wouldnt have made much difference.

Never gotten defender, and only got Healer once when i was low on Hope

[dapper hedge]

Well if you're planning to do Theresis you should've consider getting nymph first then instead of logos

Can ditch ling too, she's not great in IS in general

And your only vg is just bagpipe

[sly drift]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=3TZVDErZo40

How come he immune to Fremont shuffle

[noble pewter]

Cause he put anchor down, n hold fast besides even if he got moved, skill activate again will return to original position

He's the man who can't be moved

[void wasp]

Did they fixed the HP loss issue though? (Imagine losing Ulphianus after one S3 activation)

[tidal sedge]

What's new in IS3 A18?

[scarlet fulcrum]

New starter relic for D16+, combined rejection at D17+. and for D18, 50% dr boss and elite for 20s after they spawn. Also quite decent stats multipier

For D18

[remote perch]

Damn 50% DR
They don't really want them Wis spawncamping shenanigans

[tidal sedge]

A flat 50% DR
Can't blow up Highmore anymore

Combined rejection is also not cool

[scarlet fulcrum]

maybe ppl will still aimed for classic weedy cheese

[pearl breach]

How are you guys counter patrick phase two spear?? (Aside from the medicine stick)

[limpid ore]

roberta modeler?

[sly drift]

Apparently Civilight Eterna collectible also affect doomed tiles and now they take critical pure dot

[limpid ore]

it gives 2 shield at e2

[pearl breach]

should I build her only for that niche?

[limpid ore]

it's the relic not the operator

[pearl breach]

Can you give me the image of that relic?

[limpid ore]

black crown, +150% true damage

[pearl breach]

This one.

[limpid ore]

oh, hat's just roberta

this why reply exists

[pearl breach]

[limpid ore]

your message is under the vids about the relic

[dapper hedge]

Put them around the thing he summons

By them I mean your ops

[steel atlas]

Who's more worth it to be build up, Fang or Vanilla?

I go to other channel ig

[full terrace]

Fang better for survival

[steel atlas]

Ok bro, thanks for the info.

[glass monolith]

WHY TIN MAN TALENT BUFFS POZY S2 SECOND AND THIRD HITS?

[wicked minnow]

wait what??

[vivid rain]

I swear i just answered like 3 mins ago

[wicked minnow]

he posted in both help and strategy

[full terrace]

No need to make a big deal out of someone asking questions

[full terrace]

Are you sure it's Tin Man's Talent?

[steel atlas]

sorry bro

[steel atlas]

Yess

[wicked minnow]

It feels so random i have no idea what's going on

i dont have mod btw

uhhhhh

wait

shit stage to test

fucking heralds

it does appear to buff her damage though

[full terrace]

I didnt see her getting buffed tho, stacked numbers

[wicked minnow]

ye give me a sec i have a better stage to test on

[full terrace]

Let's call @civic bear the clarification guy

Or it could be that Tin Man's Talent applies to all types of Continuous Damage, not only on his own Alchemical Units?

[wicked minnow]

oh it applies to all continuous damage

[full terrace]

Yeah thats what I thought

[wicked minnow]

it applies to necrosis burst damage, to thorns dot, and to blue poison

if they coded it the same way as a dot that would just be fucking hilarious

[full terrace]

Wiki says that Pozemka's 2nd and 3rd hits are DoT

[wicked minnow]

which page is this on? also yeah i just did a proper test, it do be which is funny

i found it nvm

[full terrace]

https://arknights.wiki.gg/wiki/Damage#Nature

Phrasing on Tin Man's Talent is a bit weird to me. I thought it meant to increase the DoT of his own Alchemical Units.

[wicked minnow]

it buffs all elemental damage apparently and that include nymph s3

[dapper hedge]

Ya

It just have to be in range of his alchemical units

[summer skiff]

Guys, i need help in IS5 vs the burdrokkas tee

I think i had the problem when its entering phase 3, the portals is very annoying

[wary wing]

nymph s3 or nymph talent?

also
did someone test with warmy?

[full terrace]

Why did you let him enter Phase 3?

[glass monolith]

From my understanding all "extra" damage - Nymph S3 damage on target under necrosis, Pozy S2 additional hits etc coded to be damage type Tin Man buffs. While it phased as continuous damage in his talent which is DoT in all normal games in AK uh... Basically from my understanding they have like "Caused by effect" damage which include usual DoTs stuff and conditional additional damages

Thanks god it is only damage to enemies. If my chain of thought anywhere correct it would buff 14/15 Aak shots

[summer skiff]

Didnt he go into phase 3 after phase 2?

Sorry, im just blindly playing and didnt notice until before its too late xD

But im still looking for good strategy to handle it in the future

[glass monolith]

I think some IS5 bosses has phase 3 if you kleptomania full inventory into fight

[full terrace]

You beaten his Phase 2, you already won the fight. The "good strategy" is to not enter a boss fight with a Fractured Mind. Remove some Thoughts and keeps your Thought Inventory Lucid and you will only fight 2 Phases.

[tidal sedge]

How bad is phase 3?

[wary wing]

very

[vivid rain]

Last time i fought 3rd phase patriot bro pulled 3 portals out of his ass itms so cringe

[full terrace]

I think Fae did Phase 3 in here #strategy message

[willow sun]

does he just kidnap half of your team

[full terrace]

Man I love IS5. Game keeps giving you 1000 Relics per run.

That's a Nymph start Tactical Destruction btw 😂

Didnt even get Wisadel until Floor 4

[willow sun]

what diff is that?

also no hand of ambusher smh

[small harbor]

Im stopped playing this game a bit after the first IS came out and now i see there are 5. Is there a quick and braindead method to farming them to get levels?

[full terrace]

Wisadel start is pretty braindead nowadays

[willow sun]

is1: whats that
is2: spam calamity faceoff with wisadel start, squad doesn't matter much
is3: max out MoM squad as soon as possible, spam d7 (ed4 if you can get it) with wisadel start, aim for medicine sticks/royal brooch/snowsant's safety device to solo izumik (ed4 boss) with wisadel
is4: spam d10 with degenbrecher/wisadel start (i think wis is better), just farm ed1 ngl, ed2/3/4 can be a pain in the ass
is5: you can do doodle runs which is basically rolling every node into an encounter so you do like 2-3 fights each run (including boss fights), you won't get much exp but they're really fast

[full terrace]

IS1 is Ceobe got drunk on mushroom

[willow sun]

ceobe ate the is so we don't have it anymore

[full terrace]

IS1 stages can be found on IS3

Wander into Wonderland

[willow sun]

huh, i actually didn't know that, pretty neat

[narrow pendant]

what isnt neat is the fact ceobe basicaly died in is1

🥹

Our doggy

[full terrace]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MScplMd8LNQ&pp=ygUZSVM1IGVuZGluZyAzIGFzY2Vuc2lvbiAxNQ%3D%3D

Oh man.. Kaltsit shreds Patriot as well

I thought that was Theresis only niche

[willow sun]

how much damage is patriot doing here? like 15k per attack??

[full terrace]

No idea bruh I havent even attempted ending 3

You can maybe ask in #is-station

[narrow pendant]

I mean, d0 patriot stats are insane

He gor 5k def at fucking d0

[full terrace]

I feel like I wanna do Caster Amiya + Kaltsit somewhere in near future

True Damage is so broken in IS5

[worldly stirrup]

5K DEF!?
no wonder my wisadel barely do any damage to him

[glass monolith]

Ceobe, initiate baguette

[full terrace]

I think Patriot has decent amount of Res, so Ceobe still needs her squad of Res shred

And I mean, getting a full squad of Res shred in IS is..

Well

There is a reason why those content creators dont use her

CC is different tho, because you can just draft the entire Res shred squad

[full terrace]

I could feel the effort of making that GIF 😂

[waxen swan]

Surprised it doesn't nuke the frame here

[glass monolith]

If you see gameplay without frame freezes - probably edit

[remote perch]

[full terrace]

Yah I know coz I record short clips all the time 😂
All those short clips I recorded, I did so on the lowest frame setting - thats not how they show when I play, if I record with the highest frame setting, a 2 mins short clip can be around 4 GBs and I wont be able to post anything here.

[pearl breach]

D15 relicless patrick should be around +9k-ish dph. If you still have a talon till the end. It will be another 20%. So... around 11k-ish dph.

[willow sun]

why’s relicless important to note here?

[scarlet fulcrum]

Because talon is relic

[full terrace]

Relicless is the "raw" stats, meaning calculated purely based on the +X% increase of d15 multiplier on the number of Floors.

If you include Relics, stats vary from run to run (allies and enemies alike). Even d15 can feel like low diff if you bring 1000 of them into boss fight.

[narrow pendant]

Also every attack of patriot, at least in phase 1, makes ops he attacked take 50% more dmg

[summer skiff]

What is fractured mind? Is it that thing with low capacity thoughts thingy?

Sorry, im just at lvl 3 difficulty

Didnt read much about the beginning and just go along with it, just use buff and manage not to overwhelm the mind

My first against him too, didnt know much its line to the extraction point

I let my guard defense the point, but my healer and healer defender got captured by portal

[narrow pendant]

Its when u have the toll in red numbers

[scarlet fulcrum]

It will revamp the boss, more or less

[remote perch]

Fractured Mind is the 2nd stage of Toil Limit

Toil Limit has 3 stages
The neutral, Fractured and Obstructed

Neutral/Green is when your Toil amount is under your Toil Limit
Fractured/Orange if it's a little over the limit
Obstructed/Red if it's about doubled

[narrow pendant]

The portals eat the last deployed op, so u can control who will be kidnapped

[remote perch]

Orange
You can't even attack the boss if it's in red lol

[narrow pendant]

Oh ye

[summer skiff]

Hoho, interesting, will keep in mind

[narrow pendant]

Still think its weirdge till now that youre only in orange and already fucked

[summer skiff]

OOOH, noted for future runs, i thought they eat the closest to them

[scarlet fulcrum]

Boss will have additional mechanic technically

[summer skiff]

Any good recommendation for starting the runs?

Winsadel? xD

[narrow pendant]

Ye IS is the only place i use wis

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yeah borrow her and tinman ig, most run ive seen use them as start. And beanstalks

[summer skiff]

Tinman good? i just got him and planning to up him for the is5

What does alchemist do?

[scarlet fulcrum]

His talent good for the mode

U can borrow him too, since 0 hope

So technically no need to raise

urs

[summer skiff]

One of its specific talents?

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yea is5 exclusive

[summer skiff]

Hmmm, imma lvl him up to max, whats its priority m3?

[scarlet fulcrum]

lv7 is fine, u only want him for talent. S2 has good regen ig. Just generic skill for him

[summer skiff]

Ok

So, tinman works as debuffer / DoT huh

Feels like the one on btd6

[scarlet fulcrum]

Thats his s1

[summer skiff]

IIRC, thorns alter will be alchemist too right?

[scarlet fulcrum]

yea same archetype

[lethal kraken]

is fully investing into zuo le worth it as a laneholder? i heard that he scales really well into harder content

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yea, he want mod3

[lethal kraken]

also exec alt vs zuo le in terms of better laneholding?

[maiden hound]

zuole survives better but have lower damage output. also requires more buttonclicking

[lethal kraken]

so as a pure laneholder, zuo le has a higher ceiling than exec alt?

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yea for sure

[lethal kraken]

how about ulpi vs zuo le in terms laneholding? i heard that ulpi is very comfy to use, but does he have a higher ceiling than zuo le?

[maiden hound]

ulpi wins probably

[scarlet fulcrum]

He is, quite flexible statsticks really nice on most game mode

[lethal kraken]

hmm i see

[narrow pendant]

Zuo wins whwn it comes to pure holding against hard enemies

Ulpi is much comfy however

[scarlet fulcrum]

Tho zuo has nice gimmick on him alone

[narrow pendant]

Ulpi s2 u can just plop into a lane and its covered

[lethal kraken]

so are u saying that there are certain lanes than ulpi cant cover that zuo le can?

[scarlet fulcrum]

Zuo want hard pressure yea

[narrow pendant]

The harder the enemy is, the stronger zuo is

Ulpi hits harder and better handles more mobs at once

[maiden hound]

twink kit design shenanigans

[narrow pendant]

But when its 1v1 against strong mobs , zuo wins easily

You can argue about ulpi by using gladia but

Thats 2 ops vs 1 so not fair :ya:

and zuo probably would win when it comes to that

[scarlet fulcrum]

if u have both just build them, its not waste anyway. Both great on their own field

[lethal kraken]

gotcha

thanks guys

[frozen crane]

im trying to do ending 2 wis’adel-less is there any strat to get rid of the mobs once phase 2 starts i get my ass kicked cause of the vore monsters that eat my guards and end up leaking everything while im trying to delete theresis

[narrow pendant]

[remote perch]

Can't you just Ling it for least star lol

[narrow pendant]

Ling, wisadel solo

Think i saw fedex solo too with some management

[pearl breach]

Place an ambusher near the choke point, preferably ascalon. While shu in the corner.

If you have neither of them.
You can use ethan and place your "range" dps nearby to deal with the wither maw.

Just make sure you are 1 tile away from the ground pathing since they will poop a necrosis pool after being killed.

Ethan might be too rng but at least he will buy you a lot of time for being there.

[halcyon stream]

Is there a guide for IS5? Like for unbuilt characters (or just wisadel it), best things to get, etc?

[narrow pendant]

I mean, wisadel it+blueprint squad, rerol for emer, stack relics and get op :ya:

But like all IS, just play, learn, practice

[halcyon stream]

Blueprint squad?

[narrow pendant]

It comes with time, the true Fuck around amd find out

[narrow pendant]

Its the name of one of the squads available

Tho its true it needs to be unlocked in the skill tree

[halcyon stream]

Ok ok. Thanks for the help. I currently only have 6 stats built and the only 5 star built in my account is ptilopsis, amiya, lappy and the only 4 star is myrtle. I think I should prio on low rarity unit if I want to do some IS, yeah?

[narrow pendant]

Yea
Can raise some good 4* for IS5 since they are free

[halcyon stream]

Who exactly?

[pearl breach]

Other option is just dps them down. (If you are confident with your relics and dps ops)

[halcyon stream]

BTW are the previous IS more easier than IS 5?

[narrow pendant]

#is-station message
For some idea

Not everyone of them since its a little nerdy

[scarlet mortar]

IS5 has higher scaling with diff

but it also happens to have the most broken IS strat

[narrow pendant]

IS5 is easier to "cheese" and stuff
But if you actually play on the hardest diff, IS5 is the most difficult IS

IS2 is easiest cuz its "balanced" around like, year 2/3 ops
Not year 5/6

IS3 is easy to cheese lower difficulties with like, texalter and stuff, but it is harder

[scarlet mortar]

there's also no real reason to do calamity in IS2 tbh

[narrow pendant]

IS3 also has some regular stages that are harder than IS2 endings

[scarlet mortar]

the good thing abt IS2 is that you can pick one of the class squads and instantly nab your 6* carry at E2

[scarlet mortar]

ehhhhh

phantom's still a bitch for most casuals ngl

utae go brr

[narrow pendant]

I mean, occ, f&i

[scarlet mortar]

ooc is easy at low diff

[narrow pendant]

Or we got shit like carnival in is4

[pearl breach]

Is5 feels more balanced, ig

[scarlet mortar]

wfu isn't real

[narrow pendant]

Have u seen occ at d18?

Its magical

[scarlet mortar]

don't ask me abt d18, not like people who ask abt which IS is harder ever play above d8

[frozen crane]

yess i have both 🙏

[narrow pendant]

Nah was just asking in general, not as to whats harder

From what ive seen and heard, it became one of the hardest IS stages

[scarlet mortar]

well no shit ig, 50% DR on every berserker fuck

[frozen crane]

also whats so broken about blueprint squad

[glass monolith]

People cook

[scarlet mortar]

you get to reroll each node for free

[narrow pendant]

Reroll every node into emer, get 100 relics, win

[glass monolith]

Reroll every node into event, stack 100 shield leak final stage

[scarlet mortar]

and there's a very common early encounter that allows you to turn every node into an emergency when rerolled

or into encounters yh

[glass monolith]

Greed is good, greed is da way

[frozen crane]

o damn

it sounds so simple from the description

[glass monolith]

Says me as I walk into IS3 Wonderland to stack MoM with more combats

[pearl breach]

Doing nothing but still manages to clear the run

But heavily relies on hope gain and recruitment rng.

Blue print + doodle = IS speed run

[pearl breach]

Also Amiyi: died thousands of times by a red sarkaz wearing short pants.

[dapper hedge]

Nah IS5 is more piss easy

4 is on the right sweet spot

[glass monolith]

And 3 can go F itself

[lapis hornet]

every is the same to me ngl

[scarlet fulcrum]

Not really wrong

[wooden otter]

guys
if I give screenshots, will you make team

need fun big good team, you make team with screenshot ops

ooga booga

[tired eagle]

And which stage are you going to tackle with the team

[full terrace]

How to start your IS5:

[smoky halo]

just use the degen heidi technology zzzzz

[narrow pendant]

Shut up

[smoky halo]

tho if u have wis or logos they should just trivialize them anyway

🚬

[narrow pendant]

I never said i struggle with it

I just said its a shit stage

[smoky halo]

wat

[narrow pendant]

And why are u replying to hours old message

[smoky halo]

how can a stage be shit

[narrow pendant]

Zzz

[smoky halo]

if ur not struggling

[smoky halo]

ez

cos im a hater

‼️

[narrow pendant]

:NOWAYING:

[rich plover]

Help, I'm overwhelmed with 7-16

[glass monolith]

At which part specifically? Feed boss healthy supply of mines. Use Arts/True damage (He has like x3 DEF phase 1). Avoid blocking because multihit 4 just deletes.

[rich plover]

Huh?

[glass monolith]

Oh wait it is not boss stage

[rich plover]

The middle part with the launchers I guess

[glass monolith]

Uh... Idk deploy order defender last on right side to bait all mortals

[rich plover]

The issue is not enough DPS to deal with em later

Or do I just double tank

[glass monolith]

Friend supporting Wisadel ftw Ambriel if you built her can S2 buff guys to make everything else easier to kill

[tired eagle]

Ling might be better then wis there if you are okay with burrowing

[rich plover]

If you wanna know my Ops

#arknights message

Not everything has to be E2 for now right?

[glass monolith]

Recommended level on stages is lie, enemy stat don't change, they just shift around how much you facing at once with sometimes gimmicky stuff

[rich plover]

True

I just need to play smarter

Probs gonna use double tanks on the right

Cuora and Gummy

[glass monolith]

I would use one to gait mortals, you will need defenders on left when quadra shield guard decide to Adios, no?

[rich plover]

So one Sniper and defender should do then?

[glass monolith]

Well and medic in range probably. After all Mortals do damage

And i don't recall how much space is safe from buffed archers

btw if nobody told you that yet - S1 Myrtle is more DP than S2

[rich plover]

I know that

S2 recharges slower

Yea, the issue is the snipers

[brittle mesa]

What’s good linehold/formation to beat 4-10?

[glass monolith]

It is Frostnova stage? Give her Gravel to hug, when Gravel dies, deploy Gravel again. Use snipers / other damage dealers to bring her down

[full terrace]

12.5k atk Wisadel, love them Relics

15k atk Monster under Civilight Eterna 🤣

[wicked minnow]

wisadel s3 in this economy?

[full terrace]

S3 yeh

4 shots Theresis

Was awesome

IS5 is really generous with the Relics

Game feels so easy

[wicked minnow]

would it be wrong to say that the main challenge is getting a run to snowball?

[pure orchid]

I'd say its fairly easy if you know what to do

Talons spawn rate is pretty consistent, as well as its chances of turning nodes into emer

And then you just play it like any other IS, spamming emer

[full terrace]

Yah it's pretty much that. The start is slow and difficult but once you get things rolling

It's super easy

[acoustic slate]

Hardest floor is probably 2, unironically. Unless you just get unlucky

[full terrace]

If you get Sniper Voucher at Floor 1, run has 100% success rate 🤣

[acoustic slate]

I got kings set encounter f2 on my last run🥹

[full terrace]

Yah I got King set on that 12.5k Wisadel run as well

But Plans inventory was horrible

I didnt manage to rob Floor 5 Cannot

Had I done that, I could have gotten like 10 more Relics

[full terrace]

Amiya works guys, it doesnt have to be Kaltsit

With Civilight Eterna and aspd Relics ofcourse

[full terrace]

This Ten Rings Encounter is killing me.. I keep repeating Ending 2 trying to find it 😷

[elfin river]

What's the deal with the artilleries at Ch10? Don't they usually track the very last operator dispatched?

Sometimes, I see them targeting the last and the pre-last operators.

[zinc flume]

Targets highest block count op, if there's various ops with the highest block count targets last deployed, also the tentacle things spawned from enemy death can increase block count of ops blocking them

[elfin river]

So I gotta dispatch the lowest blocked ones, and then to have the highest one to distract the artilleries?

Interesting.

[zinc flume]

Not sure what you mean, but ya, it always target highest block count, last deployed if there's more than one sharing the same block count

[elfin river]

I think I get what's going on.

As I thought. It's what you said. The more you block, the more the block counter rises, so the artilleries target them, so the best strategy is to have the small ones to fast kill the waves, while you have the strongest to distract the artilleries.

The tutorial was a bit confusing for that matter.

[wicked minnow]

uhhh, 7-16 can be solo'd by ling btw if you really want to, you could just follow a video about it but you might have to friend someone with a max ling

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q666-_lJpKQ

not event max just e2 ling and it should be easy

[full terrace]

This freaking thing keeps freezing Ulpianus whenever he uses S3

Smfh another annoying bug

[wicked minnow]

damn with those ops, you're insane, nice clear

[full terrace]

After tasting IS5 I cant play other IS anymore. Relics are too few 😂

Need those Lingerers

[autumn aurora]

Spoiler Warning
Im finally done with this f**king ending.

I thought you just put any blocker down in front of the hole, and she shifts into the hole.

Oh I’m blind

[full terrace]

Yah any operator that can block works

[autumn aurora]

That’s what you showed

I forget that Vanguard has deployable

[full terrace]

Yah Wisadel-Tin Man-Beanstalk are pretty stable opening for high diff IS5

And you can borrow all 3 of them

Like so #strategy message

[autumn aurora]

I just wing it with the Random Recruitments

[vocal leaf]

godsenger spam never gets old

[autumn aurora]

So question about ending 3, how do i get it? I know the portal thing, But is that from the Node or Inspiration? Also do I have to grab the Sibling Item?

Possibility Node to be exact

[vocal leaf]

lost found item and then the next reroll node you do will get you to the bosky, so you need to have 2 plans for it

[autumn aurora]

What?

[vocal leaf]

you get the item for ed3 from lost and found node

[autumn aurora]

Ah

Shit

[vocal leaf]

you don’t need the f2 relic (ed2) unless you want to do double ending clear

[autumn aurora]

I’m good

[clever hedge]

Note that the relic you get from the bosky prophecy node will increase the toil of each thought by +1 for the rest of the run, so you might want to do the bosky on f5 for thought efficiency

[verbal harness]

about S3 mlynar, "when any enymy within range is attacked by a kaz opp, deal true dmg of mlynar atk" is this useful? what opps make use of this, is it only when skill is active?

[scarlet mortar]

hardly ever useful bc of how small it is

back in trials for navigators 2 or sth there was a buff that's basically mlynar's talent but stronger, gravel and wild mane got the most use out of it

but yh now it's just piddly numbers

[civic bear]

It's decent

It's still like 200 dps by himself

It's something

600 with gravel

Wild number 😂

[verbal harness]

so is it only while the skill is active or nah, because mlynar already wipes evertyhing when the skill is active.

[civic bear]

Skill only

[mighty tangle]

I've never faced this enemy before, can naratuya S3 eliminate him? (the dinosaur lookin one)

[full terrace]

Not sure. I'd just throw Nymph at it and let it walk back and forth

[narrow pendant]

That croc has 1.2k def at base or something

Would rather nymph

Or just, kal s3

[merry narwhal]

It has high def unless blocked and if blocked it will only take damage from its blocker instead

Idk how hard Nara hits

[mighty tangle]

Well i tested it now

naratuya melted him in 3 seconds lol

[bold lance]

She probably still punches through a croc just by being a year 6 op vs a year 2 or whatever the croc is enemy

Just built different

[full terrace]

??

It has nothing to do with year 2 year 6. Naran is designed to handle low~mid def enemies, that's all that matters

[merry narwhal]

1200 def is low-mid?

[bold lance]

16k hp and 1100 def. Any modern op eats that shit for breakfast.

We have non-elites approaching these numbers.

[limpid ore]

we have... a bullshit... called big sad lock

[lofty stag]

Is he really a bullshit anymore in 2025

[limpid ore]

300k health and health regen, not to mention how sad IS2 is

[lofty stag]

You could encounter away the health regen tho

[limpid ore]

yeah, good luck getting that encounter

typewriter is easier than this

[scarlet mortar]

the hps isn't that bad smh

if you don't bring enough dps you die to rushes anw

[bold lance]

Even BSL doesn't really hold up against Rays, Ulpianuses, Pepes and what else. Not even talking about Wisadel. It's not like your best DPH option is Schwarz like back then...

[narrow pendant]

Ew pepe

[bold lance]

Even Pepe shits on BSL

[mighty tangle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1336392767903109213/1338126905718870118/pepe.webp

[full terrace]

@pure orchid have you ever get this before?

[pure orchid]

Dont think so

I dont like downtime recreation

[full terrace]

Hmm

I have been doing thousands of resets

Couldnt find it

And Downtime only appears in 4th/5th Floor

[brisk surge]

Doodle Speedrun

I guess

[full terrace]

Yah I was doing Doodle rush

I was wondering if that's expansion thingy

[brisk surge]

I'll see if I can find that node tmr

So eepy

[full terrace]

I found the Ten Rings encounter at 5th Floor, but not that Downtime

[proven shore]

Ive encountered downtime but always skipped past it, what does it do

[full terrace]

You got this one before?

It does nothing, I just wanna unlock the picture lol

[proven shore]

Yeah i see it on some of the floors sometimes, but i dont take that route

Just unlocked the patriot path for the first time, anything i should keep in mind?

[full terrace]

Ah good to know good to know

I'm just really unlucky then

I havent done ending 3 I cant help with that atm, maybe wait for someone who did, or ask in #is-station

[proven shore]

Ah dang don’t worry I’m sure you’ll see it soon

You just have to not want it

[scarlet fulcrum]

even my alt have this, just unlucky ig

[full terrace]

Oof cant seem to find it

[full terrace]

Where is your Wisadel borrow smh

[narrow pendant]

More like where is your dmg

[full terrace]

No idea. He has been playing for a few months, still hasnt built any ops, and he complains about everything being difficult.

[wicked minnow]

uhhh, that starting squad is ass, the operators you chose are ass (in IS) and none of them are e2. It's really hard to believe that you dont have anything other than these operators built

gummy and totter are good in IS5 but they have passed away in the ss

unless the charges 1 shot gummy, you could keep gummy top right (instead of the rock to the right) and just keep cycling shit infront of her when 2 chargers come at her. have some operators hold with the friend whose infront of the blue box

[proud dune]

Okay how do I get other endings? I’ve beaten Fremont three times now

[blissful wren]

How are people getting 40-60 artifacts in IS5?

Most I’ve ever gotten is 12-15

[remote perch]

Use Talons of Hatred then reroll stages to Emer for free relic

[remote perch]

on the start of floor 2, you get 2 choices, picking 1st option give you 2 thoughts that if Interpretted will turn to a relic for ed2

For ed3, go to a Lost and Found and pick the 2nd option, then the next stage you reroll will be a Prophecy node, enter it and you go to a extra floor, at the end of it you can choose the relic for ed3

[wicked minnow]

ed2: prophecy node in floor 2 gives you 2 runes. all you have to do is combine these 2 runes to get a relic with a negative effect any time before the prophecy in floor 5. when you reach the prophecy in f5, present the item you crafted.

ed3: you go to a lost and found node and pick the option that gives you a special item (should be middle option). After picking this relic up, next time you reroll a node, you change it to a prophecy and the special item is used up. this prophecy requests 2 plans from you so that you can enter an extra floor. If you are using blueprint squad, you need to have 2 plans prepared. Other squads need 3 plans prepared to enter this extra floor. The second node in the floor is a prophecy. Pick the option that gives a relic. You then have to beat a boss stage to leave the extra floor. (this might be difficult if you arent sufficiently prepared). You have to do this any time before the crafting node in f5 since you cant reroll that node

[proud dune]

What are the two called

[remote perch]

Pure White Petals
Wordless Deed

[proud dune]

Gonna need to figure out how to actually beat the ending 2 boss now

[full terrace]

Phase 1 you bruteforce. If you have enough Relics, Wisadel can handle the boss alone in most cases, but if you want to be 100% certain, bring Nymph with you and perma stall the boss while damaging him. Phase 2 the most reliable way is True Damage, preferably with Civilight Eterna but since this is your first time it's still locked.

Alternative would be Shu's teleport and Gladiia's pull with Weightless Relic and Inspirer.

Something like this #strategy message and this #strategy message

[proud dune]

It’s those respawning enemies that are a problem

[crystal meteor]

if youre using wisdel theyre gonna get obliterated anyways

oh are you saying about the holograms

you can clear them with anything, theyre not tanky

[severe venture]

First time doing Ending 2, I hope this is good enough

[full terrace]

Low diff? Should be good enough

[severe venture]

Difficult 7, I guess its like middle(?

But yeah, it was easy. idk about the mechanics but the siblings don't to that much dmg

Theresis just have a shit ton of hp or defense

[wicked minnow]

yeah so the boss has a mechanic that you just brute forced because yes

[full terrace]

No he doesnt, he only has 120k base HP and 2000 base Def at d0. At d15 it's around 500k HP but this is reduced by some Relics like The Silence, Painful Happiness, and the others. It's his DR that makes him seems tough - I believe 90% if you let him stay next to Theresa.

If you move him far away from Theresa, then he only has 35%

Which is why the Shu's teleportation suggestion

Or True Damage

[wicked minnow]

or shift if you can set it up but that's more of a last ditch effort

[severe venture]

why he didn't move after you defeat him phase 1?

he just tp to theresa side and didn't move

[full terrace]

You can teleport him with Shu during Phase change 1 > 2

Like this #strategy message

But this needs timing

[severe venture]

yeah but Shu tp range didn't get theresis

i thought it was intented for him to stay by theresa

the whole phase 2

[wicked minnow]

their mechanic is that theresa keeps doing this big boom arts damage map wide until she deals so much damage per attack, you get wiped out by it if you dont kill them in time

[severe venture]

while theresa nuked the stage

[wicked minnow]

if you use shu before he teleports, shu brings him back where shu is sowed tile is

[severe venture]

but look shu range, I a placed shu after phase 2 started for control the things from going to the left side.

maybe got bugged

[full terrace]

Did you click on the link I sent

[wicked minnow]

you need to place shu before theresis teleports back

ye click the thing he sent

[brisk surge]

Remember he needs to be standing on the rice fields

[severe venture]

I did, but I didn't use shu s3 with theresis

that's why i thought it was weird that he didn't move from the middle after he tp'd

[brisk surge]

[severe venture]

Anyway, I used this, a lot of atk spd

[full terrace]

Do you even know Shu's kit I wonder. During his Phase 1 (about to die), use Shu's S3 and make him stand on the rice field, then kill him while Shu's skill is still active. When he switches over to Phase 2, he will teleport to Theresa, but since he is on Shu's rice field, she brings him back. Thats the logic.

[severe venture]

ooh I get it, I got confused watching a video thinking phase 1 where he's moving around was phase 2

phase 2 it's just him standing by theresa while she nukes the stage

[novel parrot]

Should I get Nian by Temporary Recruitment or a Hoshiguma that will cap at E2 75 with S2M3?

I'm going to fight the Holy Patriot

Could Nian tank him? Or Hoshi do it easier?

[steel atlas]

Finally i could finish the Lungmen Outskirt Annihilation after the 13 try.

[dapper hedge]

Both are not good

What diff are you doing anw

[narrow pendant]

💀

U love doing shit decisions damn

[civic bear]

shouldve check the math smh

[wary shuttle]

cant you just finish patriot off with mines

[tired eagle]

Only phase 1

[wary shuttle]

yeah but I mean while running caster amiya S3

youd probably have like 8 spare for phase 2

[fathom swift]

How do u beat this stage? Logos and Wisadel we're not damaging them at all 🥹

[dapper hedge]

Use the roadblock for one of the path

[pure orchid]

You have talons but only 18 relics

[dapper hedge]

No one's going to the blue box from top other than the mimic

The one got blocked gonna go up then get carried to the suicidal car

I rec blocking the golems

[full terrace]

Those enemies on 5th Floor are tough in general especially on higher difficulty, how come you got only 18 Relics with Talon? Only 2 of them had real use in combat too.

Aside from that, you want to place your Roadblock here:

On the pink circled tile, and not the way you placed it

Those cars above will always go to the hole, they wont rush to your top blue box.

Only the floating Treasure Chests go to your top blue box

[fathom swift]

I have no idea what talons are. I just pick relic that look benificial to me 😔

[lofty stag]

talon comes from one of the first encounters

basically, higher chance to reroll into emergency nodes

[fathom swift]

Oh I only pick that for higher rewards from emergency rooms

[lofty stag]

emergency nodes give a relic upon completion

hence you should have a lot of relics with talon runs

[fathom swift]

Then the game must be scamming me. Cus I always go for the emergency rooms

[lofty stag]

what squad are you using

[fathom swift]

I'll follow y'alls advice the next time I encounter this challenge. Thank u

[pure orchid]

You're supposed to reroll existing nodes

[fathom swift]

Oh that's really smart

[pure orchid]

Doing the existing emer rooms and just that is as if you dont have talons at all

[fathom swift]

I usually go Wisadel, Gummy and Amiya medic

[lofty stag]

ur doing sniper medic squad then?

[fathom swift]

But try to get Logos, Cat lady with monster, Alter Goat girl and Abyssal dude in my runs

Yes

[lofty stag]

id suggest trying out blueprint

[pure orchid]

Ulpi is nice

[lofty stag]

it gives a free reroll for every node

thus you can save ur keys

[fathom swift]

I'll do that. Y'all have so many good tips

[pure orchid]

I remember just spamming ulpi here

[lofty stag]

and take on more emer nodes

[fathom swift]

Oh yes Ulpianus is his name

I remember

[full terrace]

Patriot first attempt, 90 Relics here we go..

Well that was uneventful..

[lofty stag]

So uhhh, what compelled the m9 surtr

[full terrace]

Depending on Patriot damage, I might need her Immortality to tank a few hits from him, thats what I thought

Well, 90 Relics are broken

Wisadel just shot Patriot in his spawn point

Both Phases there and he died uneventful death, I couldnt even test any strat

[lofty stag]

How long did this take

Also how many emer nodes did you go through

[full terrace]

Uh.. when Patriot died in his spawn point I just stopped the recording

But I did emer from floor 1

All the way to floor 6

And keep the Shrivel Lingerer

All the way to floor 6

[lofty stag]

Damn

Shrivel is goated fr tho

[full terrace]

Tin Man gives you +17 Thought limit thats helpful early run

Also I got the -50% Price Shop Relic and Cursed War Chronicle, so I just bought some F4 F5 F6 good Relics from the Shop, then robbed Cannot after Refreshing at F6

I think thats around +20 Relics from that alone

[lofty stag]

How hard is the is5 cannot fight

[full terrace]

Hard if you arent prepared

Like lacking Relics etc

[lofty stag]

Tbf you’d fight cannot towards the end of a run anyway

[full terrace]

F4-F5 usually you have some useful Combat Relics already, fight is safer around there

[lofty stag]

Like who fights cannot in f1

[full terrace]

Yah

I had -50% Price earlier so I just bought some good stuff along the way

[lofty stag]

You get the shard aspd relics?

[full terrace]

Coin Operated Toy only

But I do get King Relics set

I'll do it again with other Squads that are not Blueprint

[vocal leaf]

do all endings with every squad, but stop using wisadel she’s gross, use greyyalt instead, he’s great

[full terrace]

😂

Thats what I'm doing yeah, but only finished Theresis on all Squads

Currently working on Patriot

[vocal leaf]

ah i see, my method is different, i get all endings with one squad before moving to the next

i have to get the f2 ending relic all the time tho, im trying to find the ten rings encounter

i still can’t understand why cn players said that is5 high dif was too hard without wisadel, i don’t have her and doing perfectly fine, nara and greyalt are my favorite snipers

[remote perch]

D15?

But then again, nothing relics can't fix

[glass monolith]

Skill issue multiplied by sample size

Much more players -> more players who suck _> more players who suck and go whatever_they_use_instead_reddit post about it

[lofty stag]

i bring wis to all is cuz im casual like that

i also just use wis cuz it shortens the stage clear time