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I remember doro s2 being art for whatever reason
ig will give up on alt
Hypergryph can make these into merch
I want ifrit alarm clock
PissW
My lineup for futur referance
I'd like to try out different strategies and synergies between operators (like debufing the hell of something with ifrit, shamare and ela to kick a boss' ass with archetto kinda strats). I'm getting to the point where i have a variety of options to choose from and i want to know which operators could work well together in this.
not too sure what exactly you looking for but
looking at the pic seems like u already leveled the ops that you're thinking of
I know giu can have sinergies with some other ops, i know some ops benefit more from buffs than others but i'm never quite sure on where to place them or how to use them. For example, i have ntrk m6ed and i mainly use s2, but every time i try to use s3 she attacks anything but the boss and i've never quite made her work because of that
ntr s3 mainly comes down to stage, you want her or her summons to be blocking the enemy you want to hit, the case where her s3 attacks something else shouldnt be too often tho 
Yo
strat
wtf is this overcomplicated 4-4 strat
holy mother of overkill
If it leads to stage killing itself it is strategy 
This one
I don't even know what S1 does. S3 is JoJo teleport behind you. S2 is AFK harder. What is S1 even?
and S1 + S3 is Logos talk going on around
yeah, I think I must have confused him with Logos, I planned all this crap months ago before Gamepress went down, and now trying to remember
The latter
i have sussuro, perfumer and hibiscus. i already build gavial. so next what i should build?
SUSsuro
thanks a lot
would build perfumer so you have aoe too
very good st medic for beginners
yeah both
you'll get her tokens later on so she's even more good
only downside is her s2 is used twice only
perfumer + sussuro will be useable for a while
also can draft in is5 instead of Ansel
should be more than enough for most maps
so if possible try for the kernel gacha maybe you'll get ptilopsis or silence later
kernel is never worth it
he'll be fine without silence and ptilo
what hope, u mean wasting resources?
you can get silence from the 4 op selector anyway zzzzzz
yea but i like silence she's cute
can just pick her from selector in January
Hi Suraj
how do you deal with rocket robots on S-4?
my texalt die in 2 punches
she is my only arts helidrop
Reread the stage description
You can literally push the robots
Weedy summon or Phantom s3 can cheese them
you can also drop an op on the leftmost one to push it slightly, giving you an extra safe tile in front of the blue box
got none of those
Weedy borrow is a common solution
i think i need to kill bottom one too so ball gets controlled
some guides use Shaw to solo left lane
yea ig ill use her to push bottom robot too
So I try to do H12 with that specops squad of mine
Didnt really work out
stalling kristen works, now what do i do
Kill everything else
Double silence usage 
stalling kristen 
how should i set things up?
this Xinbra dude sounds pretty cringe ngl
iirc there's a robot wave that comes after phase 2
shaw skill lvl7 can stall left side perfectly?
I wouldn't say perfectly
she took damage somehow but i healed her
needs help for the last wave
thorns work?
if Thorns can damage the robots then you can try
theres gonna be 1 rocket robot later right
ok the rocket immediately spawn
so i leave shu there to deal with it?
if shu can stall kristen why couldnt she stall a robot
kristen second rotation ruins left side
maybe ill change saria placement to help left
right def with jesster
nah nvm i forgot shu
imagine they give intel cert for this
@lethal dragon btw do you play on bili? I forgot
rolled over them with balls
how do i deal with the left side?
in kristen second loop, she kills shaw
i was busy with balls
even with shu there
The ball explosion is Arts damage. Nightingale would make them survive. Otherwise you just slowly destroy the balls one by one while keeping the healing up.
👆 this is for the "deal with the left side"
Phase 2 Kristen hits the last two deployed operators, you can deploy someone like Gravel to bait her damage.
👆 this is for Kristen
Do i need to do CM for medal?
No medals (unless it is finish all CMs medal) accept CM
it says
it says
finish 8 S stages with 3 star
there are 7

aspd reduction aint so bad is it
imma substitute thorns for GG
It says "ALL"
sometimes i hate rhine lab for few reasons, one of them being this one
I jate rhine cuz ifrit isnt real
CW-S-4
you aare honry
No
Borrow Weedy and bully robots
btw
i genuinly dont know how to deal with robots
i wasnt bringing wisadel
You can push them
but then ith wisadel it is still hard
they have like 0 weight on that stage
lemme try
Phantom s3 bullies too
The better manticore
playable when tho
Do i look like hg to u
guys um
how do i tank the robots for shaw to push
like
cm
they punch hard
e1 max gravel can sustain
do i borrow an e2 gravel or what
slow them
if i do then i lose lvl 90 texalt (i have mine, lvl 60 tho)
how
ops that cast slow 
are you borrowing?
lvl 90 texalt
we cope for 6th anniversary
mine lvl 60 and i dont feel like leveling her to 90
why do you need 90
yes
If i was, youd be banned
why 

By the power vested in me, I hereby pronounce you man and wife. You may kiss your broom.
Cmere so i can kiss
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Woops I went too far back
I failed 4-4 earlier cause I forgot where to place roadblocks 💀
I failed 0-1 the other day (this is real story).
can borrow someone from me if you want
I can't remember if I have you added
meow
do my cw-s-4 stage
I bought ramen
w
CW-S-4 cm
He is borrowing a Texas.
i need a pusher s1 that is 5 SP
we have a cm for that?
ohh
nah nah i dont think i need lvl 90 texalt

:run:
Use Weedy instead of Shaw then.
i got no other pushers
Borrow a Weedy.
none my firends got weedy
or do i gamble phantom s3?
That works too if you master the timing
Suraj#5820
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phantom shift is too weak to do anything
also I'm on train data is slow
I'm dumb that's my discord 💀
Suraj#2037
It's Suraj#2037
addefd
sorry my brain is thinking about food
ok im dumb fish woman pulls not push
Can just use S2 honestly 🤣
it reduces force right
@sterile delta like this to start then use gravel to break pillars and place wis?
That firepower you can just burst Mandra up there without pillaring.
idk i tried that and it didnt really work lol
but prob did it wrong
Something like this, just throw everything at her #strategy message
Degen in place of Asca
then use the top middle two pillars for phase 1 and phase 2
Ball explosion, rocket launcher, Kristen's normal attacks.
last time i died cuz the two melee robots and i dont have ela ready
no she died to mlee robots
for phase 1 you can consider doing this
prepare the top right pillar with a ranged operator (any works i just have april there)
once mandragora is almost out of tile H9 you splitbox her in between H8/H9 with someone who can survive her laser + medic (so someone with res like guardmiya)
then put down logos/some other dps like degen
probably logos, idk if degen has enough total damage
hmm i tried this and got her past p1 pretty quickly but she blew me up p2 and i lost lol
@sterile delta ok trying your method rn
then once logo's s3 is fully charged knock down the prepped pillar
in p2 use the top left pillar
so when you say prep the pillar do you mean just put a ranged op down get it close to being downed then remove the op im hitting it with then redeploy when its ready?
really appreicate the help btw
np
yea the pillar should become all cracked and stuff
so the next time you hit it, it'll fall instantly with one hit
in case you didnt know, when the pillar hp is completely depleted, the look will change and the operator hitting it will pause for a second, thats a prepped pillar, if you keep the op there they'll knock it down but if you retreat you can have it ready to go next time
IT'S 1 AM OFC IM HAPPY RAHHHHH
so logos in this pic doesn't get dropped until aftertop right pillar hits? cant he not hit her from here? and if i drop him before he gets killed
Ty @regal frost
you want to wait for logo's skill to be up before dropping the pillar
gotcha, in the positioning in the pic logos dies whne mandra comes out
mandragora should be splitboxed between h8 and h9, so the pillar can fall on h8 and hit her
yea you need to wait for mandragora to walk out of range of logos so around h8/h9, thats why you put a blocker there to stop her so you can get logos down and wait out his skill
ahh okay
that makes sense. is guard amiya the best option for low investment? i dont have many units im like brand new
if you already have guardmiya she probably works well enough
honestly if you are able to permanantly block/stall her on h9 you can just slowly kill phase 1 with anyone
yea looks at stats rn if you have guardmiya + any semibuilt st medic you can just permanantly keep mandragora phase 1 there and slowly chip her down while you prep for phase 2
yeah i was able to take phase1 down but was pretty dry after that whats the strat for p2? feels like i all in p1 and get overrun p2 haha. as for whether i have guardmiya i actually odnt have her haha
these are my guards
tried using cuora to hold her and she got one shot lol
any of the current banners have a unit i can shoot for? lol
not really, mlynar is the best option from JO and you already have him
im assuming you dont have shu or saria
don’t think so here’s my ops
in any case, who are you using to kill phase 1 and where does mandragora end up transitioning
logos + wis to kill, she transitions around g7
Yeah thats your main issue and the issue with players in general - skills timing. You dont lack firepower, but you didnt portion your skills well and just went all in during Phase 1. Best advice I can give you if you cant really manage your dps, is to master the art of stalling. Like for example - Phase 1 you shoot Mandra's HP down to 25% with Wisadel, then deactivate her skill and stall. Stall with Defender and multiple Medics while waiting for your Wisadel's (and Logos and whatever dps you deployed earlier) skill to recharge. When it's fully charged, finish off Phase 1 Mandra, activate everyone's skill and burst her Phase 2.
i agree here, if you can stall out her phase 1 near where she spawns, the fight gets a lot easier
her laser deals around 650 arts damage per second, assuming 0 res, 2-3 medics should be able to comfortably keep her stalled forever while you chip away at her
once you're ready you can finish off phase 1 and then move onto phase 2
is cuora the move like should i just raise her? will try suss + perfumer +ptil + cuora at e0 and see how that goes but yeah as it stands cant currently stall her
something like this
cuora isnt great here because mandragora deals arts damage so she ignores def entirely, better to go with someone who has res or a ton of hp
I mean the old kyostin's low-end clear used Guard Amiya and she is a Guard. You just need someone at E1 max and have a few Medics babysit him/her.
oh okay, whos the units above sussuro and below lappland?
hibiscus and quartz
quartz can be substituted with anyone who has high hp or any amount of res
if you have the guard chips id suggest e1 lvl0ing quartz (who is from red cert shop) anyways because shes good for base
will do this now!
use skill 1 or 2 for the stun? seems weird bc increase damage taken haha
s1, the damage taken might be fatal lmao
quartz doesnt really function as a unit, i only chose her because her archetype has a ton of hp
thats what i was thinking haha, gonna try your strat now, it almost worked but i was using perfumer instead of hibi and she couldnt get in range of the spot i was using lol
sorry, is quartz supposed to be able to tank mandra at e1 lvl 0 with 3x supports? doesnt seem to be the case for me.. also where does dps go in this setup?not sre where to charge their abilities without knocking pillars
i tested with quartz + ansel/hibiscus/sussuro at e1 lvl55 and she easily lived
who are your medics
currently trying with hibi/ptil/suss all e0 except hibi max no masteries
ptilosis is an aoe medic so she has less healing offskill than a normal st medic
also tried with e0 reed but that was worse haha
are you able to hop in voice, it might be easier if i stream
i can hop in but cant talk on my work computer lol
yea no worries
lets go to rhodes island
ignore all the random bs i have lol
so yea stall with three single target medics here
yeah thats insane wonder if i can do what you're doing with texas with degen
texas and degen are just random ops i threw in
all degen is doing is holding off the enemies in the bottom right, you can use anyone you want for that
maybe just not enough throughput with ptil need to raise ansel lol
yea the thing is ptilopsis heals less offskill than ansel because multitarget medics have less atk than single target to balance out their ability to heal more than one target, and if you want to permastall you shouldnt be relying on skills mostly
anyways heres phase 2
i actually tested it and you only need one pillar, my wisadel is e2 lvl80 but it shouldnt matter too much as you'll see
wtf
lmfao
ignore that lemme restart
hhahhaa
idk how that happened, very interesting xd
in reality you prob dont even need to prep a pillar
for consistency consider just knocking down this pillar
ok i kinda suck at this ngl
hm
sorry
hahhahha i was having same issue in p2 and nah its no problem
biggest thing is just using three st medics there
i got performance anxiety or something
the help v appreciated yeah i can hopefulyl figure it out if i can infinite hold her there
LMAO
nah i got it this time trust
solo holding that left lane is really good too dont think i can do that tbh maybe with ines
mhm
4 units to stall mandragora leaves you 5 to hold the left and bottom right
is that doable
yeah
are we talking 9-19?
yeah i do no mod tho
if you can get mandragora to 25% hp left on P1 thats all i need from him tbh
1 pillar afterwards gets her to P2
then wisadel can take care of her
stage is way easier if you have good laneholders too
obviously speaking
Wis brainrot so deep, doesn’t even have e1 medics 
anyways @twilit flume this is phase 2, and i hopefully wont screw up the example this time lmao
damn yeah wis just nuked
and yeah ill post one sec
And i just e1 lvl 0 quartz + maxed ansel and hibiscus
so yea just give that a shot and dont be a griefer like me 
will try hahahaha wish me luck
reasonable scenario to drop pillar on her P1 here into P2 phase into wisadel skill proc with pillar drops (i forgot to prep 3rd pillar here)
im gonna assume youre not leaking on both sides so with that you should be able to pass the stage
you can then retreat wisadel (after mandragora dies) to either sides depending on which one struggles the most against golems
god i hate this stage lol i think im almost there though
think once i get my zuo le up ill be living the dream i hear he can hold lane pretty well and thats a big struggle i have
other than the obvious skill issue
I wouldn't expect anyone who skipped the basics and went straight to Wis + Degen abuse to not have skill issue 
damn my dude you got anything positive to say? hahahah im in strategy chat asking for knowledge, not like im in here talking bout game bad 😂 using good characters=good
Unfortunately all the 9-19 advice I can give are pre Wis era
but the concept should be the same
stall/nuke phase one, drops rocks x4 on phase two
if you're not struggling to handle mobs from left and right it should be pretty easy with the lineup ye
yeah i think with all of the advice y'all gave i can get it done, will just take some time. appreciate the help
just remember that pillars are your friends 
unless you park your ops next to it when Mandra flies 
is there an optimal beam placement for this or do i just slap and run
Easiest one would be beam down the middle with Ifirt and afk laneholders to make a wall
don't need sp with infinite/off recovery skills
just be aware the casters deal big splash damage against ops not in beam path
Fia to blast them in spawn would be ideal
where do they spawn?
ok thx!
personally I didnt care about beam, there are also mob that hits ops in beam iirc. whichever works is fine imo
okok

i bruteforced that map 
@sterile delta got past the stage 😂 did not kill mandra but stall her enough to take out the golems which works for me lmao. thanks again guys
:(
i’ll come back to it after i have a stronger lane holder, it’ll be easier once that’s the case it’s just rn not enough units to get it done haha
Harsh but true 😂
When a player with skill issue uses Wis, she removes the skill issue, but when a player who doesnt have skill issue uses Wis, she gives cleaner and smoother clears.
ngl
i usually dislike commenting on ppls roster in strat
but bros got 5e2s 1 modded and literally nothing else
this a little too extreme...
it means hes optimal
Yeah.. I was a little afraid to say this, I dont wanna offend anyone 😣
lawl
i do think logos mod is a higher prio than degen
and if he max out reedic
itll probably be enough to weasel through all stages
yeah reedic would be rly welcome
Good job

maybe he builds zuo mlynar and you teach him to zuo mly logos every stage
🤫 i would never subject a newbie to that
oh btw
put the gun down cake
I just saw your s4 with phantom pinball that was cracked lol 
I was typing something but I forgot what I was typing as I was typing it
it was anger inducing figuring out how to push everything in the right way
yeah but it looks 400 iq in the final vid
early boomerish that stuff contagious better stay away from igneus
i cant get logos mod until ch 11 xd
and was stuck on end of ch 9
yeah only have like 2 wk playtime dont really have roster depth, was told to prio those units before doing anything with anyone else. the wis 90 was dumb asf but i did that day 1 before i realized it was troll
its okay u gyat this
i think rn u shud just borrow ling if u want raw strength
cause rn u have all the bursts and what not
u just dont have the ops to hold the lanes
and ling solves that easily
ling wis will quite literally bum rush u to ch11
blue woman op
really appreciate the advice, will do! havent really borrowed much yet. ling is limited right no way to grab her yet? and zuo le is good lane holder once i get him invested more right?
yup ling is a limited char so shes unavailable as of right now and zuo is pretty strong laneholder but he needs max investment
Got it! Thanks.
ah, yeah i havent really even gotten into anything past e2 lol
but he does contend for being one of the best laneholders with his module and masteries
if you ever drop an exalt hes a pretty good unit to have aswell
full investment like zuo le but it pays off really well
prob my favourite guard alongside the uncle himself
yeah they throw so many banners out never know which one to hit lol
how to this
kill her fast
just beat it
Don’t let her override 3 of them in her Phase 1
She’ll override all 3 once Phase 2 starts
So yea just nuke her
3 should be fine no
there's only 3 balls anyways you'd need to kill them and let her convert again to fail
alternatively just don't kill any of the balls (that said in practice it would he a problem)
cause idt anyone who can't just kill phase1 quickly can bruteforce through phase2
she doesn't convert balls anymore after p2 iirc
no, the bottom robot actually moves earlier than the top one and messes you up
Tried that myself first few times I did it
wym tricky wisadele just kill anything that appear I dont even know what is the trick here
any EX8 guide for this rerun
my units somehow die when P2 hits
use pushers
If you have them I can walk you through it.
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just watch a ling solo video and replace her dragons with your op
If you have walter and logos and shu 
not without a huge effort anyhow
use a healer then smh
amazing
Use Nightingale S3
the idea is to clear the stage at all cost, not to copy the exact strat
I modified a Strategy by adding Mylnar
and if you have nightingale s3 just wipe the whole map with dps and after p2 or p1 just activate her s3 it will make your units immortal
I personally combo her with all the dps in the game and ignore every mechanic
yeah but going "just copy a ling guide" is just making it way harder for yourself
at least in this particular stage
just dont copy that part that make it harder then smh my head
almost like it's what i said in response to you talking about "copying ling solo"
u won, ok? holy this dude love to argue
arguing?
~~at least the low end ling guide for this one is pretty stable until you hit phase 2
~~
lemme guess bro just decided to argue about arguing
you went in, gave "advice" that you didn't actually followed yourself, and then decided to argue with me, no?
normally i hate people arguing for no reason but im confused here
ikr
buddy wants someone to copy a ling solo but replace every dragon with an operator and skalter with a medic?
isnt that no longer a ling guide and just a normal playthrough
shit's very hard to copy
especially the ones that use skalter1
at that point you're better off looking for a low end guide instead
the best ling guide is the low end ones. one of these ones like https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1b24y1K76z/?spm_id_from=333.337.search-card.all.click
especially in this event that also abuses ling dot and skalter1 to save from oneshots
you basically can't "copy" the ling strat with regular ops at all
then spare slots stick in your shids like walter and chalter and then blast away because you will hit 99 dp because it's a stall guide that is extremely stable
shaw sweep
the weedy I raised specifically for the task for this event 
the weedy i raised for fun that people thought i would never use 
The Weedy I raised because I wanted to play nicheknight turns out to be useful for this event.
yippie
you guys didn't raise weedy for cc 4 years ago?
weedy? what weedy
i'm stuck at 6-5, there is always that one unit that pretty much nukes any op i try to place there, any tips on how to clear it ?
borrow hoshi
deploy her last
is that like a sniper, caster, what kinda op ?
defender
if u have e2 ig lin will work
or mlynar
ohhh, hoshiguma, alr
wait but i can't place any melee ops there
cos that enemy is faster to the blue cube than i have enough dp
There are 2 easy solutions:
- Deploy a defender to bait the spearthrower, and then do your things like usual.
- Bagpipe + Myrtle for quick DP, then do your things like usual.
yea u place all ur ops below the 3 tiles below blue box then hoshi is placed there
oh nvm, i js tried to place walter there ... js placed her a bit further away
walter e2?
e2 s3 mod3
Wisadel first deploy is not fast enough, that spear thrower will walk into your blue box first.
no myrtle?
could just borrow ines
at lv1
ohh, forgot to mention, she's pot6, so she costs 2dp less then
and why did i had to place mlynar there ?
Max pot works. Just do Wisadel first deploy.
Wasn't this a penance solo stage?
who is penance ?
operator
defender
yes also hi
didnt Lin tank that red thrower?
Hello
I so lazy that I keep using the lone trail auto from last year
same
okay time to switch everything with Wisadel
I wasn't around for it
nah, getting bnked by a hammer like that must hurt ig 
?
Yea it sucks, makes alloy farm so slow
I think the last time I farm alloy is last year
Lone trail
Which until now the stock about to run out
od?
Wd?
so which part you are struggling with
after phase 2
thorns for some reason got nuked at the right when he was nowhere near the guy
nuked by the boss?
you need to learn dominion targetting

At fixed levels of hp (50% in phase 1, 75 50 25% in phase 2), he spawns a dominion
The targeting priority is
- the operator that did the highest damage to him since the last dominion spawn, if they are not in dominion already
- the most recently deployed op if they are not in dominion
- EB himself
thorns is targetted because he is on that number 2 point
dominion is the black fart
this stage is such a paain I hate thinking 
so what deployment should I be doing
use surtr to bait the fart gas?
you can wisablast it but make sure her revenant not hitting the boss
so she won't be a valid target
you can then bait away the fart with frd
or if you don't want to think
borrow degen
she has iframe on s3 so she won't be targetted
this already a win bro
put the defender on middle
just tank em slowly and then kill em together
I had no dp
pro tip
retreat refunds half dp
crazy amirite
the middle is the most important
the rest takes forever
to walk
they are very slow
you think I have time for that when I have no time to think being nuked left and right
don't make me look stupid
im not 
in that exact ss you have 20 dp
hoshi is 14 dp away
that means you are missing like 20 dp to block that right defender
Dominion will debuff mobs after boss gone yea, so that tile is great
that is solvable by just trying again
heck if you just block the three guy on the middle
then block the two from the sides much later
- if you block them with defender you dont even need proper medic. just shu stalls p much forever.
those only become a threat when they reach 50% hp
did it 
help my brain is melting
i always die at the second phase in cw-ex-8
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could try following this
i dont have ines and nightingale
could substitute ines for any cheap vanguard or sniper
^
ng is pretty much unreplaceable tho
i can see why
nah she is prefectly replacable if you went the extra miles
my gavial and logos keep on fucking dying
you can silence the xplosion or silence alter it
you mean silence alter can stop the phase 2 explosion?
silence alter prevent op from ded or kill ball
silence (debuff) prevent the explosion
silence alter prevents you dying
but you could just you know use the mechanic and retakes the ball
I pretty great squad, if you ask me, just borrow 1 and work on timing and see guilde
its hard for me to focus on the balls when kristen is already a big enough problem
that vid is more like proof you can ignore mechanics not that you should
2 ball shouldn't enuf kill your op kill 1 ball idk
s3
fuck
who kill you 2nd phase, tristan or her ball?
so realistically you only saving logos
kristen
and she kills everyone except walter
so i lose my reed alter, courier, gavial, and logos
and then i deploy my second phase squad (hoshiguma, ash, ela, caster amiya, silence, and saria m3)
i take 2 or 3 time to kill tristan phase 2 drop specialist, also sutr borrow if can
who should i replace here then tho
with what
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i dont have ines tho
Ines is replaceable with any vanguard
aight
should i use flametail or bagpipe
Probably flametail
Oh yeah i forgot to say that for some reason 
there are 8 more slots to make things easier
texas for the extra dp and bagpipe for more sp deployment
should i use typhon instead of saria
would fang alter work
Thats... a bit of a stretch
Probably not tbh
welp i overkilled kristen
with
typhon
(yk what happened)
So you cleared?
no because i overkilled kristen
Oh
the 4 balls
why not use ng s3 then
it oneshotted my logos and ng
Well shit lol
Try to not kill boss when she control 3+ balls
yea
i overkilled it
my fault
rockets got m
ig ill have to put more defenders
the whatever thrusters enemies
I just spam flags omegalul
finally got the medal
burst them with specialist virtuosa s1

Not my ass bringing lappland to ignore kirsten mechanic
valid tbh
i think silence is bullshit debuff so my lapp still e0
huh
i just think ignoring mechanics by just literally turning them off is boring
as a result, i particularly did not enjoy ch9 and SN lol
ch9 can be bruteforced
yeah but 70 res out of thin air was annoying
sn there's dodge ignore ig unless you think that's cheating too
using arts wasnt my problem
so you just played normally, shit didn't have a mechanic
its that using phys wasnt much of a better option either
i mean it was but in some cases it still sucked
also you can silence Kristen's death splosion
By release of chapter 9 my roster was imbalanced toward physical so i didn't care
ch9 we had chalter jajaja
to this day, my account still look like fucking casterknight so 
you can silence it, but it kinda does nothing anyway
there are way better ways to answer it
including just killing her last
i remember you could beat h9-6 just cycling chalter sa
well not like 2 op but yk what I mean
Scene chalter sa
no way it was 3 op
When chapter 9 hit i didn't had balls to touch grass H stages
nah dodge ignore is cool
i had trouble with cancer floor cus i also dont like running medic
is that actually a hole
It is wall. Also most bosses too heavy to be pushed
Smart thinking though
whether there is or isnt a hole
if there was, shift block + shaw s2 would be funny, but idt shift blocking is something new player should be learning so early
Pushing sure, but shift block definitely not
considering floating point coordinate issue blockshifting probably was never in hg plans
atleast for perpendicular pushing
block shift is an intended mechanics
but you probs mean using it to push enemies into holes
which is kinda funny
Or stuff like shift enemy into other lane etc
that def is intended
dont want multiple enemies blocked to be clumped up and impossible to see
There are still difference between making shit not overlapping and you can shift hole boss of Pepe event in 2 deploys without any major set up
checkpoints exists
Shifting enemy into wall causing them assume they visited all checkpoints and go directly to blue box
(CC9 PTSD)
Its a shame... I destroyed in CW-S-4 challange mode
You mean you destroyed CW-S-4 or you got destroyed in CW-S-4.
Because the former is common now that we entered Wisadel era.
i got destroyed
Which part you are struggling with?
Prob nuked kirsten too hard and got balled all over
second phase of kristen
Btw fun fact you can silence the phase 2 balls explosion just saying
with this comp i managed to come 31/33 enemies but last art enemy and kristen passed
Balls explosion sometimes clear whole map but sometimes just give near death experience i dont understand that mechanic. Yes i use nightingale in two cases
The major difference between CW-S-4 and CW-10/CW-EX-8 is the number of balls. Every ball overridden by Kristen raises her block count and damage reduction. Meaning if you dont destroy enough balls she occupied, she takes miniscule damage and becomes unblockable.
Balls explosion is Arts damage.
Using Nightingale is smart.
right side of the map is where my problems lies
yup, she destroyed whole map again with phase 2 explosion
Shift power is strengthened in this event, if laneholding is your issue, there are 2 things you can do:
- Adjust Kristen's pathing by moving the balls around, so that it gives you extra time to handle the waves
- Use Weedy/Shaw to solo lanehold left side and focus your resources at the right side
Don't have walter blocking enemies 
Also considering enemies come from above making the gravity upwards makes it a bit easier
Warfarin buffs random unit in her attack range. If her Revenant Shadow is in her range, the Shadow has a chance getting the buff as well.
would rather borrow a texas/yato to kill balls
Mlynar adds too much damage and helps with robots. i dont have it maybe i can level shaw
I mean, so is Texas and Yato, and they have more flexible positioning
welp, i tried everything i could
its time to ask for a handhold (1st screenshot is my squad) cw s 4 cm
CW-S-4 as well?
CWS4's challenge condition is slow attack speed around balls, i thought they will deal less damage because of that
no
they do shit ton of damage, slow your attack and give the boss DR
crazy ain't it
Yato s2/3 aren’t affected by aspd anyway
the fact that you think i have maxed pot/mastery/level/mod operators to do that lol
my only max module is on mudrock and ling i think
you don't need max pot...
well 4 ops means you got 8 more ops to compensate lack of levels mod pot
It kinda gets cancelled out by gravity alignment
And on yato s2 case she deals fixed hitcount anyways
wisadel lvl 60 modless + another dps >= wisadel maxed out
i think balls dmg is fixed no?
folks here already told you pusher on left side, the remaining slot you have use to deal with the rest
and i can't use any of them thats why i'm asking for a handhold
i need DM-EX-6 strat, i tried mlynar camp but doesnt seem to work(CM)
what kind of map again that is?
i forgor
sentinel and caster
what's your team?
strong roster can camp red box both side
wdf virus...
wtfart
if lack dmg try use ethan/ascalon on right side to help slow them down while your dps do their job
one of the worldcursers just didnt feel like dying and killed mlynar on low hp
bump
oh no dmg issue
then maybe kill flag better
Is borrowing a max wisadel viable for you? 
ahh big dudes
logos/wis will do it just fine
Her first skill activation can take care of all the caster guys coming from right side, then you can use the remaining 12 squad slots to deal with the rest of the map
intended play is to
wake right side caster one by one
and avoid hitting the flag guy
but wisadel can ignore all that
only solos 4 years old map?
apart from you
do I borrow a caster or…?
it's rethorical question since you are using wis and mlynar
on top of having options of ela mines for what not
shrimply an RnG issue
wrong mlynar timing moment
All that’s left for me are these maps
probs easiest borrow is ling
@regal frost Suraj could you set up a Nightingale for me.
ya
Thanks
quite literally just stay here
dont touch sentinel
and let every mobs come
and you kill them
bump
nothing particularly special
i just realised ines exists 
Here guys, you guys struggled too much against Kristen I borrowed Suraj's Nightingale to run you a quick simulation (My Nightingale is still in incubator). @soft heath 👇
Borrow mylnar
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will s1 weedy work on the left side?
Mine is S2 she pushes everything away perpetually
i meant e1, sorry
Hmm should be I guess? She does nothing but pushing robot
wow this is pretty clean, i love it
I love you too flan 
(dont tell fredi)
True
but i have to give props to how you pushed the balls into the perfect positions to be in range of logos
I didnt move the balls at all aside from down to up, and only once
Yah Logos handled 5 balls and Surtr one on the right (she is immortal so she doesnt care about explosions)
And Wisadel being Wisadel.
ok, weedy with nightingale on the left, what about the right?
i think ascalon will work perfectly, maybe add a blocker for safe measure
I had no one on the right because Wisadel. But anyone works as long as they arent there during explosions.
mines e1 80

yeah it works, she already has the dot on e1 and her main skill is s2 anyways
Hello! no cheating here. absolutely none. 🙂
:sus:
should i use s2 then or s1
s2 
idk who else to bring too
Riggghtttt nothing is happening 😖
wdym opener
like whats the first thing you do in the map
mlynar
doesnt he die to rocket robots?
if you block the robots, they wont shoot rockets 
and nightingale on support there
what skill
also i think wis cant die cus of camo
thats why i have mudrock
and then just scoot her over to the right side afterwards by redeploying
tried it, she isn't
she just dies to the robots
bump
How does she die to them
Revenant should be tanky enough to hold, and she cant be targeted
the crystals die = wisadel dies
i managed to get her in place but then the robot moved and she got punched
i need mlynar to kill the robots or surtr
but i also need surtr to destroy the orb cages
let me try
BALL defense reduced per hit taken, just like shield boys, you can just poke them with any DoT/fast hitter to death
doesn't look like it when using yato alt or tex alt
Does anyone have the balls' stats? Somehow I felt like Arts damage is very effective against them, but not Physical damage.
ascalon dot will melt through balls, thats how my cw-10 run kills balls so fast 
Ela + Ines took forever to kill one ball. I drop Texas on one and she destroyed it instantly.
it works 
Swhy I used Logos and Surtr coz Arts.
it has like 70 res
over 3k def
so ofc caster shred it easier
even more if they have res shred/ignore
12k HP 3300 DEF 60 RES Normal
15k hp 3550 DEF 70 RES EX, EX CM +35% HP, S has +20% HP/DEF, S CM has +30% HP/DEF
Each time it takes hit (up to 80 times) lose 50 def and 1 res
Ah thanks for this.
then show me how you did it cause i don't feel like being bothered to think about placements

i have this name for a reason
also you placed her on the left tile of placement from the video someone sent earlier to kill the boss easily
ironically, placing wis where i placed her will kill boss faster so 
myrtle > yato
myrtle to gen dp safely
yato to move balls up
retreat yato afterwards
wisadel > surtr face up
activate skill asap
retreat surtr before she dies for some extra dp and voila
i still don't understand anything from this
bonus points if you push this ball into kristen for some extra damge
idk but thats the best handhold i got 
The stage is duo eith walter and texalter
Guess thats what im doing when i have the time to play the stages
CW-S-4?
bump
CM even?
Yes
Indeed
Fun fact: surtr's talent makes her "retreat" instead of dying, so you can leave her there and still get dp back anw
Last year I borrow mylnar
that was not fun, can i get a refund?
Unless you need the dp earlier
CW-S-4 CM is just for medals no? I didnt do CM this rerun
Sure you can get the dp refund
Me when extra event currency
Yea but i missed the og rellease
So id like medal
Btw guys, if you are still struggling in CW-S-4, do make good use of the balls positioning to change enemies' pathing. For example my idea is like this, thats why Wisadel solo lanehold the right side.
Just kill everyone
i died to rocket cars


