strategy

[lost whale]

My typhon got afflicted by the freeze

So I couldn't activate the skill on time and rip run

Oh well

[glad forge]

Did u not have other sources of stun?

[lost whale]

Yeah but you know, I didn't expect the map to be the way that it was hahahaha

[glad forge]

well rip

u probably didnt know the boss was low flying

[lost whale]

I did the boss

It was another stage with those really annoying things that can only be blocked by three block operators

[regal frost]

wow I pinged the wrong yuzu

@ebon zephyr try this

I'll set ela as support

without mod should be fine

I'll double check

[ebon zephyr]

Am done now

[regal frost]

that was quick

[ebon zephyr]

I just straight up blocked the leaks with hoshi lmao

[pure orchid]

roadblocks make for nasty killzones, and killzones are fun

i know bottom is prime chain time but ehh

[marsh sapphire]

No skalter s3

[pure orchid]

s2 is too comfy to pass up gang

i also love how she just sits there forever

[near folio]

Another Jessicat enjoyer

[latent monolith]

making an ifrit lane out of a stage is always fun

[pure orchid]

Not a lot of people will admit it but she compresses a lot of roles, making her for a good addition to a lot of teams

Tank, invis reveal, stun, taunt/bait (shield), some dmg, and even the ability to change direction

While you wouldn’t need a tank that often, you’d be hard-pressed to find a tank with this much utility

I’ve used all of these utilities to some degree in this entire event

Tank and shield for the lancers and assassins
Invis reveal for assassins
Stun for pretty much everyone

Some stages were really nice cus jessica can change directions

And the assassins trying to phase through jessica’s shield end up getting caught by jessica herself anyways

If i had your regular laneholder like blaze or exalter, they’d be dead

Zuo le is… we don’t talk about him lol

[spark sinew]

would exalter really be dead

regular people don't talk about jess precisely because you don't need her in full teams

when you can slap like, hoshi ines

[cyan gorge]

I haven't blocked anything in this event cause Ascalon + Ela too broken

well EX7 being the only exception cause Zuo s3 to solo lancer lane

[foggy grove]

exalt+zuo duo most of these,idk what blud yapping even the assasin stage

chain is too op

[glass monolith]

People talk about stuff when their presence alone is enough to flip stage. That's why you won't see people go like "just support Stainless" when his list of creative utilities is bigger than "How to deploy Wisadel and press S3" manual

[compact shoal]

Pog stainles mentioned
His s3 is so fun with ascalon. And comfy to place around with ascalon range as well

[glass monolith]

It is extra fun that his S3 give you vision in RA
Btw did they fix his S3 killing you in IS if you pick "damage on deploy" relic?

[cyan gorge]

That's a thing?

[compact shoal]

I never use stainless s3 on IS, not helping with how spec ticket is pretty much ela or yato draft so not yet draft ascalon 💀

[cyan gorge]

Ascalon always my second spec pick

Yato overrated

[spark sinew]

apparently ascalon has a funny bug

when she attacks herself

[warped smelt]

Just one Question why

[lethal dragon]

Floor is lava

[spark sinew]

just open with doro

[foggy grove]

fun stage tbh

[glass monolith]

Remember that one Chapter 12 stage which ban ALL ranged tiles as AE condition? Because fuck you that's why

[warped smelt]

And?

[cyan gorge]

Doro > drop vg > set up for other lanes

[spark sinew]

and uhh, win?

[scarlet mortar]

doro covers the opener, the rest works as normal

[spark sinew]

well ig you can also open with mumu, might be better

[scarlet mortar]

you can deploy ground ops if they're linked to your ranged ops, not sure why you didn't bring any

[warped smelt]

Skill is level 6

[spark sinew]

since you actually have ranged vang

[glass monolith]

Dude he has only ranged ops. He complains about lack of ranged tiles to work with

[spark sinew]

wait i just saw this team, wtf is that

[cyan gorge]

doesn't matter, you just need a cheap ranged op so you can deploy a vg

I used Mumu to open

[compact shoal]

Does mumu clone can make chain?

[spark sinew]

probably still win

[scarlet mortar]

no

[glass monolith]

Summons bypass entire chain mechanic bs

[cyan gorge]

summons can't chain, tacticians included

[scarlet mortar]

summons don't interact with the chain mechanic at all

[warped smelt]

Hmm can i try this with defender operator

[compact shoal]

Just use ela atleast can deploy the mine on range tile

[warped smelt]

Okey

[scarlet mortar]

[spark sinew]

typical suspects

[scarlet mortar]

i had to check

[nocturne cove]

@glass monolith

Can I borrow your indigo

[glass monolith]

One moment gonna waste my overcapped sanity

[sly drift]

Ex 8 cm on early is sooo damn rough

[glass monolith]

Up

[sly drift]

Real problem is how you kill the Chain Cutter before it cutting all over the chain

[glass monolith]

Also EX-7 has lancer ignoring concept of chain for 3 corners of map

[cyan gorge]

Kill with range or block it without it passing through a chain

[sly drift]

It followed by Deathveil.

Deathveil practically one shot everyone on his way

[ebon zephyr]

@nocturne cove https://youtu.be/Ej_DMyJz71w?si=0go8pjtOWacUCjVl

[cyan gorge]

Pretty sure you can tank with Ptilo + Quercus

That’s how I survived at least

[sly drift]

Do we have*5 or *4 that are very strong at 1v1

Morgan maybe

?

[cyan gorge]

My first thought was Jaye but enemies might be too tanky

I don’t use 5* guards that aren’t birbs

[warped smelt]

Okey i did it

[nocturne cove]

Dang

Look at these two

[warped smelt]

Who are you

[ebon zephyr]

Can replace eyja with Ela easy, eyjalter you can try lumen. Borrow asca then ignore yato or bring gravel for stall

[marsh sapphire]

This look fun

[glass monolith]

Ceobe against enemy with 60 DEF

[warped smelt]

Pramanix

[pure orchid]

I meant that if you wanna ignore chains, jessica does a lot

[hazy sinew]

use ascalon or ethan for chain so they pass through, don’t kill, but end up touching chain and lose invis

[pure orchid]

Yes theoretically you can use chains to slow lancer so you wont need to tank them

Yes theoretically you can also use chains to remove assassin invisibility

But, consider, for no good reason, not using the chains

[foggy grove]

if i want to ignore chain,jessica won't be my first pick either

she has a lil bit of everything but not enough to matter

[scarlet fulcrum]

Everybody avoid using chains, means how easy this stage is

[dark violet]

trying to figure out how to trust squad this map was tougher than I expected

the lack of melee ops certainly didn't help

[pure orchid]

I just appreciate having a tank that can also do more

Hoshi doesnt really cut it for me

[scarlet fulcrum]

Just dont tank

[pure orchid]

Im ngl tanking is sometimes more straightforward than dps so i appreciate it as an option

[scarlet fulcrum]

Do u have ines

[pure orchid]

Its been pretty known here that i dont lol

[scarlet fulcrum]

Sadge

[pure orchid]

Tho even if i had ines, i will still appreciate jessicat tanking

Ines is like just 5 sec bind

Sometimes thats not enough, for me at least

[dark violet]

invis reveal and slow

[pure orchid]

Yes slow too

[scarlet fulcrum]

No chain pretty much, can cut schwarz but rng

[pure orchid]

that looks fire

But in all fairness, ascalon slow carries a lot here

And then ines just catching the strays

Assassin cant dash through 0-block and suddenly they walk like toddlers

[scarlet fulcrum]

Its possible if i have Melanite and harmonie raised. Wanna try 5* version

[pure orchid]

Go cook king

Ascalon slow is so much that you will almost never need to block, its crazy

[scarlet fulcrum]

I saved my book for wis, meta slaves in the end

[pure orchid]

Is that manti also modded

[scarlet fulcrum]

yea mod1

[pure orchid]

Thats plenty enough, no one is moving an inch in there

[scarlet fulcrum]

welp as long as its fun

[pure orchid]

For you, not so much for them

[scarlet fulcrum]

we are the real enemies angle fr

[pure orchid]

Isn’t that actually babel story or smth

idk i didnt read

[scarlet fulcrum]

No just usual perspective on normal story

[glass monolith]

Babel story just makes schizo theories about how bad pre-amnesia Doc is canon

[scarlet fulcrum]

Done, no schwarz. Maybe manti also no need

We will get more on ch14 dw

[pure orchid]

Contrastingly, people will eventually stop talking about wisadel in great detail because everything about her will be blatantly obvious

Meanwhile, there’s a lot of things to discover when it comes to operators with obscure niches

Like how i was in awe that mostima mvpsd reduction ignores Slow immunity in ccb2

Which actually makes sense now when i thought about it back then

[glass monolith]

Because slow is effect, reduction is reduction

[pure orchid]

Yeah

I never really thought of it in that way before

So observing it was crazy for me

[narrow pendant]

[pure orchid]

hello fredi

[narrow pendant]

Hi hubby

Hows ex stages going for u

[spark sinew]

is it really

those aftershocks with mirror images (or whatever they're called) can be hard to calc for

or how her cycle is actually pretty long

[narrow pendant]

Cuz movespeed reduction isnt Slow

Slow is the effect

Smh

[civic bear]

shes hard frfr

spamming skill whenever its up is hard

[narrow pendant]

Use s1, she does it herself

Then its easy

[pure orchid]

Just finished it a while ago
How bout you?

[pure orchid]

My point exactly

[narrow pendant]

Cleared them today
Had to go back to ex7 for trim

[pure orchid]

Ayeee

I cleared trim on first clear, didnt even change my general team for the entire event

Hopefully S stages will change that

[glass monolith]

Bitch i hate EX-7

Okay trim get

[spark sinew]

...it had a medal?

[tawdry path]

don't let an operator become unsteady

[ripe girder]

Yeah last two was rough. But worked well for me at least

[spark sinew]

welp, time to redo then

[ripe girder]

Reed replaced Specter at the end. Mostly of the time Specter was there. Holding all enemies

On EX-7 i tried Typhon only for holding that place, but way to many enemies can simply walk through. Plus guitar one enemy required 3 shots even though i had her S3 M3. Reed also replaced Gladiia at the end.

[tawdry path]

Ray ela typhon Qiubai was enough for ex 7 thankfully, did it first try without knowing medals were a thing

[glass monolith]

OH MY GOD EX-8 OPENING SUCKS

[scarlet mortar]

does he know abt CM

[tawdry path]

use 2 flags

[glass monolith]

HOW I SUPPOSE TO STOP 3 CLOWNSLAYERS RUSHING NEAREST BOX?

[scarlet mortar]

you uh

block them

[tawdry path]

!

[scarlet mortar]

[narrow pendant]

They dont rush wym smh

[glass monolith]

He blick. there is 4 melee tiles

Bitch there is no space

[scarlet mortar]

me when road block

[nocturne cove]

@glass monolith thanks I'm done

[glass monolith]

There are big boys on left side

[nocturne cove]

You can change it back

[scarlet mortar]

do i just post the ambusher duo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjpHfcuWSR4

here copy from bananalao

[foggy grove]

big boys blue box is the left side

they ignored center

[glass monolith]

WHY THERE IS MORE OF THEM

[foggy grove]

[scarlet mortar]

aware

[regal frost]

minus are you ok

[dapper hedge]

Honestly big guys are more annoying than the assassins in ex8

[narrow pendant]

I think i ignored them and they died anyway

[regal frost]

the unblockable guys?

virtousa

[glass monolith]

My issue is assassins moving when bog guys moving and it limits box fiesta

[regal frost]

assassins? virtousa

[glass monolith]

I am trying to not use stupid 6* bullshit... As much

[dapper hedge]

Yeah the problem just when I try with no *6, with *6 it's ez

[scarlet mortar]

use the chains to stall the assassins

[glass monolith]

I brought Ascalon still because i don't have another second ambusher build

(Pretend Mizuki not there)

[scarlet mortar]

if you can clear the first 4 guys up top you can prep for roadblock gaming

[glass monolith]

Btw i love how ex-8 starts

"Oh it is this guy.... OH"

[regal frost]

lmao

[glass monolith]

lmao chain breaking guys cut corner and don't break my chain

[glass monolith]

I had to bring cursed Myrtle. The end

[scarlet mortar]

clearly should've brought a real op like vigil

[glass monolith]

Also +1 to jar of "Event gimmick abuseable by Dollkeepers"

[south bone]

ascalon my favourite 5* 🔥

[scarlet mortar]

oh yh the chain cutter guys can't break roadblocks

not that it matters now but

[south bone]

oh this won't go well on CM

[regal frost]

masochist

[glass monolith]

I said i try to do with minimal amount of 6*, and i don't hate myself enough to do those fucking assassin with main source of damage being fucking manticore auto attack

(I am too lazy to bring Shamare to not CC events)

[south bone]

nice

[south bone]

it actually happened dang terrible assassins

[glass monolith]

Assassins are being flawlessly ass to deal with

[scarlet fulcrum]

its ez if abusing chain for 5* 🫃

[strange fable]

🫃

[tiny oriole]

I’ve spent the last 3 hours trying to beat level 2-10

[spark sinew]

squad?

boss does splash, but if you put down defender as the last unit, you should tank easily

[maiden hound]

whats the problem

[tiny oriole]

Here’s my squad and operators

I place down two ground units to defend and then a healer so they don’t die but then the heavy people come in and wipe the left side so I put more on the left and then right is undefended

[spark sinew]

first, place healer before the mele guy that tanks

i would also run a couple defenders (spot nearl cardigan would do fine, you'll want to raise spot anyway for base)

[tiny oriole]

Ok so run a few defenders. Place down healers before the tankers come in. Any other strategy?

[maiden hound]

sorry mb

[noble pewter]

could always borrow too if u desperate , but ya probably switch out pramanix for defenders, maybe raise gravel in future for fast redeploy stalling, n melantha for strong phy dmg 1v1

[tiny oriole]

Oh I’m not above support operators lol

I will make sure to grind out some of the operators and stuff

[noble pewter]

then u could try borrow some operators like fast redeploy texasalters/yalter or strong guards like zuo le, degen, executor or supporter ling if u really need some extra insurance to win

[scarlet mortar]

they don't have E2s so ling would kinda be throwing

ya2 would be helpful to kill the boss ig

[tiny oriole]

I don’t know these slang terms I’m still new

[scarlet mortar]

kirin r yato

is ya2

she has a good skill at elite 1 (E1) compared to ling whose main skill and mod are unlocked at E2

[vital arrow]

Forgor whats 2-10

[scarlet mortar]

skullshatterer

[glass monolith]

#strategy message Best i can offer is this clear of mine with e1 1 (effectively e0 max) stuff

[stuck path]

how do i clear BB-8?

im seeing low rarity squad tank heavy hits with cuora and popukar but my liskarm is getting oneshot despite healers

same for the assassin i have only support unit to tank him but even after locking him and gunning him down he just automatically ends the level at one point

[glass monolith]

If i understand correctly - Get him chained to reveal. Have something like Gravel eat his crit strike. Block him with whatever he won't crit until he restealth

[stuck path]

oh yeah that works lol

wtf is penance she killed the assassin in one go

[glass monolith]

Well she has big HP, Def and barrier scaling of max HP to compensate being unhealable operator. If you somehow charged her S3 she will bonk big list of enemies

[stuck path]

tbf she was a maxed out support unit too

i pushed her aside because she couldn't get healed lol wasted 45 minutes teambuilding

[glass monolith]

Average state of unhealable units - It dies. or It doesn't.

[stuck path]

bb10 is insanity

[glad forge]

u can just use fast redeploys

to murk the gates

the enemies run around/hangs out for a bit before going to ur box

[stuck path]

yeah but i can hardly compute everything going on in the screen

i also don't know how to play around amiya's debuffs

[glad forge]

retreat them.

also amiyi gives u alot of time, so handle the other 30 enemies first

u can also borrow since u dont need to grind the stage

[stuck path]

her atk speed debuff i mean

[glad forge]

retreat them. yes

u can clear the stage with 4 frd and ignore the atksp debuff

[stuck path]

so the focus should be more around breaking the lasers than dealing with the waves of enemies?

i'll try out

[glad forge]

either one works

amiyi takes A LONG time before she starts walking

[stuck path]

is she dangerous?

[glad forge]

shes more a hazard

than an actual enemy

she only spawns gate and throws atksp debuffs

she doesnt do anything else

i think she starts to move after 3min? or so

[stuck path]

cleared ut

myolnar is a godsent unit

ty

nvm it was practice

[glad forge]

u can clear the stage with yat2 and tex2 only

so

frd ftw

[stuck path]

who's yat?

[clever hedge]

yato

[full terrace]

So I tried going back to Surging Wave 0 Izumik to test Ascalon's performance. With good Collectibles it was overkill but ngl that was a lot of fun.

[sly drift]

Diff 0 izumik. Sure thing

[drowsy jewel]

nice try homie

now do solo

[river mortar]

Can I get help with SN10?

I might just not be understanding the gimmicks of the stage

[vital arrow]

Is that the boss stGe

Whats your squad

[near folio]

It basically eats up to 3 closest dead relics that the mobs drop and gains abilities based on that

You can check it out on enemy info page

[vital arrow]

Doesnt it just eat 1 on SN10

And 2 on ex and S

[cyan gorge]

The boss eats the totem closest to where the phase died. Feed it the buffs that make it easier for you to clear it.

Bring phys? give it the res buff, and vice versa

[halcyon adder]

Ascalon so good wtf

In this event atleast

[sterile delta]

turns out having a 85% slow on a lightning fast cycle is good

[smoky halo]

me when 63% uptime

[sterile delta]

me when 64% slow offskill

[west kraken]

Sorry can I ask why adverse 12-15 why are some civilian/spy are just straight up ignoring 3 block?

I placed like maybe 2-3 defenders in a row and like they sneaked passed them

Only when like they are revealed then they come out which is really close to the exit, not to mention they actually hit also pretty dang hard

[foggy grove]

read instigator description

[west kraken]

Oh

I forget he exists

Most of the maps usually aren't that split

[foggy grove]

ye get used to it

they'll appear on H stages too

[west kraken]

I really hate chapter 12

DP cap + sussy civilians

[remote perch]

Dw it will get easier in ch13

[glass monolith]

Assuming he has basic means of stopping zerg rushes

[narrow pendant]

Zerg?!
The infamous 12 pool rush?!

[rich crow]

I’m trying to clear new hotel avenue an I. However, around 350/400 enemies, I need to redeploy my whole team so that I need to keep one semi-boss enemy alive. I’ve been struggling on that for hours. At around 346-348/400, I try to retreat amiya and AOE sniper, with ascalon but somehow my typhoon keeps killing it first, before killing the mobs. If not so, Jessica will kill it before I can redeploy my rest team. Any suggestions??

[glass monolith]

Why exactly you need entire team redeploy? You can bait entire column attack with gravel on right side and boss will return to spin around bottom left after some time

[rich crow]

Oh, I have not thought of that. I'm just trying to follow kyo's guide without thinking

[glass monolith]

What is anni number or link to guide

It is impossible to navigate this stupid youtube

[rich crow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUKwEbN0ctY

[glass monolith]

He blocks sheep with Gravel before it come into Typhon range and after everything else dies moves stuff

If you block sheep after it entered tile it will still be on that tile for Typhon range calculation

[rich crow]

Thanks

I have managed to do that. But somehow the boss still wiped out my whole team

Idk, I make sure that the tank is the last to be deployed, clear the pink spots

[glass monolith]

Boss has 2 skills.
Damage entire column (targets last deployed op) and turn smoke into pink
Make all pink smoke explode for some damage including elemental one.

You might have problem with elemental damage because you don't have elemental healer like Honeyberry/Chestnut. Which is now fatal, you can just use 5 DP deployable bottles to turn all smoke white near your operators on right side, while changing defender between Beagle and Jessica or something each time on is near death.

[rich crow]

Do you think ascalon can work with the boss here?

Mine is E1 lv15 skill lv7

[glass monolith]

Boss flies until grounded and when it is grounded Typhon already does decent damage to it already. she can assist you with killing normal enemies

[rich crow]

thanks! Let me try again

[rich crow]

Jessica is the last one to be deployed

Is everything okay?

[glass monolith]

I would kill bottles near this to despawn that invisible sheep just in case

[rich crow]

And how about now? Sorry for bothering you

[glass monolith]

Unlucky stun on boss, he is not in typhon range

[rich crow]

Cleared it! Thanks!

[glass monolith]

Woohoo

Oh man next annihilation will be fun one

[rich crow]

do you mean the weekly rotational one? This is my 5th anni...

[glass monolith]

One we will have on uh... 4th November

[rich crow]

after this anni, which one should I do next? I have done county hillock

[glass monolith]

If you have 1800 weekly limit you can chill, or attempt one of Simulation ones if you like. They will eventually come back so you won't miss them forever

[rich crow]

okay thanks. Should I farm the event stages for the reward or story modes for the orgunum? I have 150 pulls now, and I have cleared the elit material sections from the shop.

[glass monolith]

I usually just chill on event stages stockpiling materials because their drop rate is better than farming them in story

[somber falcon]

Just do event

Story won't go anywhere

Events will

[rich crow]

Okay. Then I'll try to clear out the event shops first, everything except for the free's unit potential.

[river mortar]

ive been running this
(Ik its a late reply sorry i fell asleep lol)

i think it was more of an issue of not understanding the boss though because ela and typhon would melt through the boss if it had the resist buff i think

[vivid rain]

There will be enemies dropping buff for boss to eat, one of the buffs give boss like 3k def or something so ela and typhon cant do shit if that happens

[river mortar]

i think i found a guide on yt that covers the way the boss works pretty well and ill see if i understand after that

[marsh sapphire]

Finally
Those dead dogs have a mean bite

Only thing is both Shu and eyjalter skill on cd later on lol

[halcyon adder]

Why ascalon feels so broken while mizuki feels so mid? Serious question

[cyan gorge]

better damage, utility and cycle probably

[halcyon adder]

Mizuki has faster cycle

[cyan gorge]

idk his cycle timing but 63% uptime on Asca s2 is very very good

[scarlet fulcrum]

20 sp with good uptime, it reminds me of fw s1

[scarlet mortar]

if this is comparing their S2s, mizuki has worse multipliers and the talent only hits 2

[scarlet fulcrum]

not even permabind

[scarlet mortar]

yh it's pretty bad against melee trash waves

against ranged enemies at least they might stop more often to shoot him

[lethal dragon]

And then actually shoot him

😭

[scarlet mortar]

just dodge

[scarlet fulcrum]

ModY enjoyer based

Maybe someone will draft him with aspd and dodge relics surely

[spark sinew]

talent difference

having faster cycle kinda does jack all when his s2 runs out so fast, and is a worse skill effect wise

[full terrace]

It's her Slow (Movement Speed Reduction). Say an enemy travels through 3 squares covered by Mizuki/Ascalon and Mizuki hits 3 times, this is 3x damage of his attack (or skill). Ascalon on the other hand, applies Slow and her Slow is so powerful that it almost equals Bind, this lets her perform more attacks (or skill) on the 3 covered squares. Let's say she managed to land 9 attacks while the enemy is Slowed, this is 3x the number of attacks performed by Mizuki.

[spark sinew]

oh we're not in help

[scarlet fulcrum]

Not worth to compare not even close

[narrow pendant]

Mizuki also femboy

[lapis hornet]

yeah basically slow

dot also adds up as extra insurance

mizuki honestly not even bad in afk setup's when you block for him

also mind the chains this event makes ascalon feel way.better than usual too lmao

[scarlet fulcrum]

It also makes manti feels way better than usual. ascalon just good even without chains there

[golden gyro]

thoughts on nearl alter? i try to make her work but idk her archetype seems very not good.

[lapis hornet]

malder unit more than generalist

feels a little underpowered nowadays

[spark sinew]

she's very good for her archetype because she actually works

[golden gyro]

what does malder mean?

[spark sinew]

you can drop her with s2 to kill some shit or you can use her with s3, drop before elite boss, then proc s3

[lapis hornet]

someone who plays nicheknights stuff

like 1p

guardknights

etc

she was okay in the cc maps with 1 deploy limit

you can just use her s3 as generic dps tho true dmg ain't too bad

[spark sinew]

big range, some summon to block, overall fairly solid

[spice fable]

Probably been asked millions of times but is the base setup of 3ps, 4f, 2ts the best to produce the most LMD?

I unfortunately maxed the office to 3

[bold lance]

243 and 252 have the same LMD production.

The difference is extra XP.

[spark sinew]

2pp still beats the shit out of 3pp overall

[lapis hornet]

243 better if you have everyone

[spark sinew]

243 does higher lmd prod though

[lapis hornet]

252 still bit better and cheaper otherwise

[glass monolith]

Angry Weedy Eunectes sounds

[spark sinew]

243 isn't better

[spice fable]

Ty Ty

[golden gyro]

if surtr is considered "game breaking" why isnt nearl alter?

[spark sinew]

surtr was considered that...3-4 years ago

[golden gyro]

compare their dmg, its similar..

[spark sinew]

closer to 4 now

surtr also hits 3 enemies

[tardy pond]

BB-10 help

Ig I should focus on destroying the doors?

[lapis hornet]

surtr does 2x the dmg what

when she came out she also did like 2x the dmg of the next best thing

[golden gyro]

nearlalter:
https://youtu.be/oujB5lacL2s?t=105

surtur:
https://youtu.be/dXl06vKlmzo?t=3

[lapis hornet]

nowadays that kinda dmg p normalized

[spark sinew]

just saw thumbnails

i hope you didn't talk about ST damage

[spark sinew]

because uhh

[scarlet fulcrum]

Storn homie

[spark sinew]

multiply by 3

[lapis hornet]

bro

patrick.has 90 art res

why you use him to say they do same dmg

yes nearl does more dmg against ch10 slugs too

[scarlet fulcrum]

let storn cook

[spark sinew]

please don't give storn more views cake

[wide sail]

nearl robot matters sometimes

[spark sinew]

bet you watch that Arkpedia or whatever!

[lapis hornet]

storn is chill also he only did ntr vs siege

and surtr vs vivi

[spark sinew]

or thorns vs typhon

or whatever else he did

[scarlet fulcrum]

The main audience zoomer anyway

[lapis hornet]

is ok

you gotta hustle for views on yt esp in a small niche like ak

[scarlet fulcrum]

the main point thats it

[golden gyro]

i guess its hard to rate an op from 1-10 bc the niche use cases of each 6* is very niche

[rocky kelp]

if it wasnt a gacha game I think it would be pretty easy to say "X is better than Y in nearly every way"

but its hard for people to accept that when their waifu is involved

lol

[scarlet fulcrum]

pve gacha games

[glass monolith]

"This dumb combination of mechanics break down to this dumb combination of skills and talents"

[lapis hornet]

i mean

[spark sinew]

it's easy if we set boundaries

like say, the content we're testing against

[glass monolith]

HE event suck btw

[lapis hornet]

it's a generalist vs toolbox thing right

[spark sinew]

some shit breaks in IS for example

[lapis hornet]

nearl worked very well in the past when cc was the main hard content

now ppl play is and nothing else so ofc perspective changes

[spark sinew]

i was gonna say she still works well for her role, but realized i didn't use her in general content since forever

bit clunky to use compared to newer stuff

[rocky kelp]

there are too many big sweep sweep ops now, that I think most less impactful 6stars dont really matter for general content anyway

[lapis hornet]

new units just trivialize content to a point you almost never look for specialists

[spark sinew]

is she even a specialist

[rocky kelp]

even laneholders which can carry you in norm stages up to like ch8 now has like 20 6stars

for new players

[spark sinew]

unless you gonna argue that we have 3 more specialist ops that do exact same thing but better

(aka just nuke st)

[lapis hornet]

I think more units just dilute the value of almost every unit, newer ones are just more hype so ppl talk more about them

they're also stronger on average but

[spark sinew]

she feels closer to generalist to me, especially if we consider different skills

[lapis hornet]

0 deploy/true dmg both rare to come by

[rocky kelp]

i dont think its fair to call her a generalist when there is better options for her other skills besides s2

[lapis hornet]

but siege alr creeps her s3 looks like

[spark sinew]

shitty 1 block laneholder? here you go
dueliest with long redeploy? sure
true damage thingy with big range and ability to kinda hold lane like s1? sure

[rocky kelp]

I had copium that yii would return or at least make a short vid or something with siege alter

[spark sinew]

isn't that what makes her generalist

[lapis hornet]

idk

yii wasn't even that insightful he just had good editing

not entirely sure why he took off that much vs other ppl

not to trash him or anything

i agreed with a lot of his takes

altho he had his share of copium lole

[rocky kelp]

generalist has nothing to do with being bad at most things lol

wisadel is a generalist, she only uses one skill, but she is good at like 10 different things

texalter is a generalist because she can be used to help in nearly every situation

nearl alt isnt really a generalist because I have no reason to ever use her s1 or put masteries on it etc. and her s3 was already more troublesome for most players than kal s3, now with vina its even worse

so there isnt much reason to use her except for s2. which isnt very general

[spark sinew]

you 100% have reasons to use s1 over s2 though (so in e1 case)
if we go with e2, i would agree with the "just use s3 over s1" take, but i also saw way too many people who used s1 so i can't argue with the fact that people actually do use it

regarding to s2 vs s3, it's certainly not skewed towards s2 that much, I'm sure

[golden gyro]

i would agree with this. she's more niche than anything

[spark sinew]

interestingly, arkrec has almost double records for s2, hmm

i wonder how much of those is 1p relay stuff

[scarlet fulcrum]

Generalist very broad for me tbh, worth for 12slots surely

[spark sinew]

take mostima for example, now that's a specialist
fucking worthless without s3

[analog kiln]

nearl alter from good to n*che (derogatory) in 2 years this is so sad

[spark sinew]

can't do anything even if you wanted her to

in contrast to something like nearl

[lapis hornet]

everyone now is niche tbh

[scarlet fulcrum]

6* is niche

[lapis hornet]

too many units

[analog kiln]

whos the youtuber people watch now to parrot off, other than sciel

[spark sinew]

do you watch sciel

[analog kiln]

no

[lapis hornet]

seekers when he starts his yt career

kermit p well regarded in help looks like

he has a yt surely he counts

[spark sinew]

i put kermit in background so i can listen to ariana (i dont)

[lapis hornet]

also I parrot igneus on 5*

he's got like that one intro vid I think

[spark sinew]

is parroting igneus on 5* good

[lapis hornet]

unless he deleted channel looool

[spark sinew]

the context of using 5* only is quite different

basically no one actually asks about 5* only, they ask in context of using them in 6 star teams i thought

[lapis hornet]

yeah idc

there's like 4 ppl here who actually play 5* at all

instead of watching couple vids on bili or smth

[spark sinew]

yeah, so giving advice without understanding it is bad

glad we figured that out

[lapis hornet]

man

will hauck stop yapping one day

mission impossible ?

[spark sinew]

will you?

[analog kiln]

then why does #help exist then if not for this?

[spark sinew]

help at least tries to give advice, instead of going "I don't care if my advice is even harmful in that context, i would rather parrot 5* player"

[lapis hornet]

lol?

[spark sinew]

inb4 "parrot" means something else there?

[lapis hornet]

what are you even yapping about

[scarlet fulcrum]

Thats me

[rocky kelp]

because if you live in help for 2+ months, you start to be able to filter in correct information once your sanity reaches -1,000,000

[spark sinew]

what are you yapping about

[lapis hornet]

I'm sure igneus understand the difference between 5* only and normal player

I know I do

bro what

i wasn't even talking to you

why you tryna argue everything outta context

[scarlet fulcrum]

Its fine ik who is it

[spark sinew]

igneus does know this yeah

[lapis hornet]

i was joking with seekers cause we know igneus's short lived yt career

...

[scarlet fulcrum]

Are u still on cult server cake?

[lapis hornet]

nah left ages ago

[scarlet fulcrum]

can relate

[lapis hornet]

too many servers to track

also khron was yapping too much lmao

[scarlet fulcrum]

khron pretty chill imo, he left b4 me tho

[lapis hornet]

ngl

he randomly threw fit at me cause I disagreed with some takes on hsr

not even his takes like I was just talking he started acting all offended cause it's not what ppl said on yt lmao

[scarlet fulcrum]

Oh he rejoined again then nvm. I left b4 hsr hype

[lapis hornet]

oh yeah then like I literally said the same thing as him that one time

and he still tried to pick a fight

literally bros got issue

nah was on drails server

[scarlet fulcrum]

i missed drails

[lapis hornet]

igneus kicked him out of siesta lol

ya drails was cool

[scarlet fulcrum]

welp i had to go, this channel already filled the purpose for blog and chit chat

[lapis hornet]

ya sry mods for this brief off topic

it was kirn not me ban him

!!

[analog kiln]

I think we ban dest

[lapis hornet]

good take

[spark sinew]

we have 4 ban candidates

[strong silo]

[lethal dragon]

Tf happened here

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/935163999748775986.png?quality=lossless&name=reality&size=64

[golden gyro]

Wait I encountered a bug

The sceen is so off centered

[vivid rain]

That happens sometime when you mess around too much

Just think of it as 100% intentional

[brisk juniper]

Probably the wrong channel, but can anyone help with BB-EX-8?

[dapper hedge]

What's exactly your issue and what's squad you're using

[brisk juniper]

Assassins :(

Lemme show you the squad I'm using

[tawdry path]

this seems like a dp issue

[brisk juniper]

Elysium helps with the early DP printing, and I can place a majority of Roadblocks before enemies can approach

I usually block off all but the lower sector for the stabilizer chains

[tawdry path]

the scissor fellas cut off your chains before assassin gets revealed?

[brisk juniper]

The what?

[dapper hedge]

I'd drop both Lin & GG btw. Arts kinda sucky this event.

[brisk juniper]

Who to replace?

I've got a bunch of High-Ground units leveled too

[tawdry path]

these guys

[brisk juniper]

I surprisingly haven't encountered them yet

[tawdry path]

then how'd you die to assassin's

not enough dps?

[brisk juniper]

The Unblockable ones leak before anything else

[tawdry path]

oh those fellas

my solution was to ray them

[brisk juniper]

No Ray :(

[tawdry path]

or get another defender

since your first defender would probably be blocking the right lane

[brisk juniper]

I've got Shu, Horn, Cuora, Jessalter, Saria, Penance, Blitz and Shalem leveled

[tawdry path]

actually theyre unblockablez woops!

[brisk juniper]

[tawdry path]

horn helps out with general dps

[brisk juniper]

I'll swap GG for her then

[tawdry path]

ya sure thing

[narrow pendant]

Dont have some burst for the big guys?
Like degen

[brisk juniper]

Got Degen!

[narrow pendant]

Can use degen to burst the big guys that come from the left then

[brisk juniper]

Her S3 is L7M1 if it matters

Who to swap?

[tawdry path]

she should deal enough, probably Krooster

[brisk juniper]

Kroos Alter for Degenbrecher, got it

Something like this?

[narrow pendant]

hoshi should be on s2 like 99% of time

[brisk juniper]

i can explain

Fixed that though

My usual roadblock setup is as follows, each white circle is a Roadblock

[tawdry path]

That's alot of roadblocks

If you push your far right just 1 tile to the left

You wouldn't need the extras

[brisk juniper]

Far right?

Ooooh the one above the blue box

You mean one tile up?

[narrow pendant]

Try blocks here

[brisk juniper]

🙏Thank you, will try

[narrow pendant]

Just block the middle lane for example to make it easier

[tawdry path]

Those are all the roadblocks you need practically

[narrow pendant]

Ture

[nocturne cove]

Imagine CM

[narrow pendant]

Mine was cm and cm sucky

[nocturne cove]

You don't have enough dp

So you gotta place far behind

[tawdry path]

cm even more so, I needed 2 flags to shit out the dp for just 3 blocks

[brisk juniper]

CM?

[nocturne cove]

Challenge mode

[tawdry path]

The roadblocks cost becomes 15

[brisk juniper]

Oooh

[nocturne cove]

Have fun

Kekw

[brisk juniper]

Wait it's actually working

Degen's absolutely destroying the Assassins

[tawdry path]

that's what she does yes

[brisk juniper]

I goofed :(

[brisk juniper]

This Roadblock placement worked, but my error caused it to fail, unblockables leaked

[plush widget]

Bring a shu

[narrow pendant]

Degen was meant for the unblockables sir

[brisk juniper]

Bad timing on my part

My Shu doesn't have the Module, does that change anything

[narrow pendant]

Assassins become useless when they touch the chain, so just make sure u have a chain

[plush widget]

It doesn’t

[narrow pendant]

No

[brisk juniper]

Take 5389342

[lethal dragon]

Is that a holy number

[dapper hedge]

If you have Ethan raised & Suzuran I'd bring them too

[brisk juniper]

Neither are leveled :(

Well I almost fumbled but I did it

Thank you everyone :D

[tawdry path]

have you done cm

[brisk juniper]

No :(

Some stages of BB-EX yes, but not BB-EX-8

[nocturne cove]

It's actually easy

Just need to bring more vanguards

I had to bring 3

[full terrace]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LebwBF0r-uI
Lol that's one funny strat by Silvergun

[tired onyx]

Try this
#salt-mines message

[tidal sedge]

I need an operator than can straight up just beat 4-10 boss cause I'm too lazy to level up my whole team to beat it

(I just wanna unlock crafting recipe for gavial mats)

[scarlet mortar]

kirin r yato

just throw her at FN enough times

[tidal sedge]

Would texas alter work?

I can't find anyone with yato support

(they won't accept my fr)

[scarlet mortar]

might take more cycles but sure why not

ya2's better bc she doesn't care abt the aspd debuff

[dapper hedge]

Exu soloing FN since day1 of the game

[spark sinew]

if you add me i can probably accept the req

[astral cosmos]

@oblique flicker don't I have you added?

[oblique flicker]

Yes you do

Why?

[astral cosmos]

lemme put s1m3 mod1 highmore lol

[oblique flicker]

Oh hell yeah

What about mod3

[astral cosmos]

is mod3 even good

[oblique flicker]

Yes

[astral cosmos]

(I probably don't have the mats anyways)

[oblique flicker]

5 more elemental damage healed per attack INSANE

[astral cosmos]

as expected

anyways she's up

[oblique flicker]

Damn :(

Well thanks anyways, i need to grind is3

[acoustic slate]

Missing 2 aspd

Defective

[oblique flicker]

fr

[slow plume]

Excuse me fellow doctors, is it a good idea to build Silverash?

[clever hedge]

likely depends on what other dps options you have?

His biggest draw is s3 so if you want his big aoe slash yes, but again there's plenty other big damage options available currently as well as the limited banner soon

[full terrace]

Yes. If you already have sufficient dps in your squad, then build him for his Talent to reveal invisible units, otherwise you might wanna build him for dps (for your progress, I'm assuming you are in early game).

[slow plume]

Yes

[regal frost]

id wait and see how Walter pulls go before you build him tbh

but then again sa mod is soon so

[cyan gorge]

Silverash is the kind of op you don't want to touch unless you intend to e2 in the near future, since his main value is in e2 talent and s3

[ember cloak]

I'm kinda new and wanna farm orundum in the raid thingy what's the best squad?

[full terrace]

For me, at the beginning I maxed out my 2 and 3 star units, then I E1 max some of the meta 4 star units. Then I borrowed a carry support from my friends and cleared Annihilation 1-2-3. I farmed these 1-2-3 with support (manually) for quite awhile (for weekly orundum) until I can clear them by myself before proxy-ing.

[acoustic slate]

I would check out some guides for the annihilation but I can give some tips for your squad. It seems like you’re overvaluing higher rarity; 5 stars are usually not worth their higher costs.
A good 12 op team would be
Siege
Silverash
Nearl
Cuora
Cutter
Pinecone
Ansel
Sussurro
Fang
Spot
Kroos (better than jessica)
Stewart

[warped seal]

should I build lappland or gravel?

just started playing btw

[full terrace]

I'd prioritize Gravel over Lappland but eventually you'd want both built.

Gravel can stop at E1 Lv60.

[warped seal]

alright thanks man

[warped seal]

also can I have your recommendation on healers too?
I only have hibiscus and perfumer

[vivid rain]

There is a 6 stars medic available for free in stulifera navis intermezzi record restoration
Imo ansel is better than hibicus

[full terrace]

You can raise Hibiscus and Ansel yeah. Perfumer for AoE heal. The best 4-Star burst healers are Susurro, Purestream (if you have them), and Gavial S1. You can get Gavial from Credit Store.

After you have proper units and finish Stultifera Navis (it's quite difficult for newbies), you can get Lumen for free.

[warped seal]

my full roster if you wanted to see btw

[vivid rain]

Though due to promotion cost and all that i do think lumen is a bit too expensive for newbies

Erm are you open for rerolling

[ember cloak]

Aight thx

[distant bone]

Does lumen need e2 to perform well for lower end content

[vivid rain]

Dont pull kernel banner btw

[warped seal]

alright
thanks once again
I'll keep that in mind

[vivid rain]

He need module to not lose 25% healing effectiveness on anyone more than 2 cm away from him

[warped seal]

thanks bro

[full terrace]

You can get Ansel rather easily from doing Medic tag on Recruit. Stick with Ansel, Hibiscus, and Perfumer until you have better medics. If you managed to get your hand on Ptilopsis and Warfarin, raise them.

[warped seal]

ight

[analog kiln]

ifrit lane moment

[full terrace]

Eh I put Ascalon there as well 😂

Except I used SilverAsh to reveal their invisibility.

[glass monolith]

[ebon zephyr]

Asca 6* amogus

[glass monolith]

There is limit to how far I can go without major rarity abusing

[green gazelle]

Need help on this map(I know massive skill issues)

[glass monolith]

Don't worry, that's like one of the worst adverse of this chapter

[tawdry path]

Zuo use case

[green gazelle]

I see any tips for me to clear it

[spark sinew]

if you're doing it to unlock something, you probably shouldn't do adverse

although clearing anything during event is an interesting choice

doesn't penance hold one of the lanes there, am i misremembering

[tawdry path]

she should be able to

[green gazelle]

I got probably what I needed at the event store mostly so I didn't want to focus on that and I wanna clear story cause I wanna unluck all craft recipe in base also why I wanna adverse is because I don't want to come back to it later so I wanna clear it on one go

[rich crow]

is there any substitution unit for ifrit in anni 9?

I'm trying to clear it using low end squad. Currently I don't have a friend with ifrit

[tawdry path]

ask for the guys here in #friend-id

[rich crow]

I've sent some requests. In the mean time, is it feasible to clear with other operators?

[spark sinew]

what was anni9

[narrow pendant]

Isnt anni 9 the od one eith slugs?

[spark sinew]

ifrit is an okay afk option, but guide is probably just outdated as shit

from afk options typhon might be alright, depending (or chongyue)

[narrow pendant]

Use like chalter or pinecone u should have

[spark sinew]

from non afk borrows, literally everyone dumpsters ifrit

[rich crow]

long spring waste, the one with sand

[spark sinew]

i can put a shitty modless ifrit if you want

[full terrace]

Do you still need help? I can run you a quick simulation

[spark sinew]

chongyue probably does fine on it though

[rich crow]

Thanks! Friend request sent

Let me watch the guides to see which one can I replace

[spark sinew]

ifrit put

idt module does anything there anyway

[rich crow]

they put ifrit here. Do you think that I can replace her with typhoon? I'm a little bit skecptical about the range of typhoon (she can't hit the closest row)

[spark sinew]

yeah on this anni idt typhon would work

[green gazelle]

I do still need help but im playing hok rn and im gonna wait for reset cause i dont have muck ticket for trying it and i also have no sanity

[rich crow]

I'[ll run with ifrit first. Thanks

[spark sinew]

you can force close the game so you would use 0 sanity on failed attempts

neat little trick

[full terrace]

Here. I used Zuo Le up there, you can substitute him with 3~4 operators if needed. Just bring Noir Corne with you to bait the Londinium Cannon.

The 2 ops on cooldown are Myrtle and Noir Corne.

[lethal dragon]

Poor

[full terrace]

Deploy order:

1. Myrtle in the tile in front of Shu
2. Reed
3. Mlynar
4. Shu
5. Zuo Le
   Use Mlynar's skill when the mage spawns from the left side. Make sure his skill is used up before the Cannon is launched. Place Noir Corne somewhere on the right side to bait the Cannon and potentially damage some enemies. Best of luck.

[spark sinew]

someone who wisely spends his resources 🫵

[obsidian skiff]

Guys any suggestions to beat this 3rd ending with my current ops?

[full terrace]

Ah.. Avoid Unsafe Road, Indigo Cradle.

DP is big problem in this stage.

You dont have vanguard. That is rough.

[obsidian skiff]

Mumu isnt enough for dp?

[spark sinew]

don't waste your dp, it's the main run killer
what was the initial sp on mumu2?

[full terrace]

Oh right didnt see her

[obsidian skiff]

Shud i use all 4 deff spots?

[spark sinew]

no, they suck ass

what diff is this

[obsidian skiff]

+3

[spark sinew]

i can see potential with just dropping exec onto the middle and pressing s3

[full terrace]

Do you have Dreambind Castle Model or Miniature Stage Model with you?

[spark sinew]

they give like 100 def

[obsidian skiff]

This is all i have

This is in the bosky passage so this isnt the last boss right?

[spark sinew]

i'll be honest idr how hard boss hits pre d15

[full terrace]

Oof rough. Exe is your best bet like Hauckindu said.

[spark sinew]

can probably just drop exec (don't block the boss, just make sure exec hits him), ideally even on some def tile

[full terrace]

Problem is DP in that stage, as long as you can deploy Exe for the crowd and Typhon for the boss, you are set.

[spark sinew]

get dp with vang
maybe bait ranged attacks with texalter (be aware of splash)

delaying initial deploys (outside of vang) is a good idea, so you have dp to respond to the map

[obsidian skiff]

I dont have any vanguard except mumu :(

Lack of vanguard rec on this run

[spark sinew]

just don't put your mumu close to the boss, since he has ranged attacks

[tawdry path]

pick a god and pray

[spark sinew]

beggars can't be choosers, it's okay still

on this difficulty i would probably run texas on s2, but i'm not 100% sure

[smoky halo]

if the boss is stunnable just run tex3

may tanking isnt an issue cause +50% def

[obsidian skiff]

Aight thanks :)

Gonna try it, wish me luck

[rich crow]

Can I clear this anni with only 1 medic defense?

[full terrace]

Best of luck luxcy.

[rich crow]

My healer is not strong enough to heal all of them

[spark sinew]

did you deploy beagle last?

or ifrit was deployed after beagle

[rich crow]

Beagle last, but still they hit AOE

ifrit is the third one to be deployed

[spark sinew]

maybe move beagle to the right one tile, would also work better for pluma

(or use spot there, and pop his skill when those arrive)

[rich crow]

Before it was mytrle there, should I replace mytrle earlier?

[spark sinew]

would also work better for ifrit herself, she would just hit everyone blocked

what enemies are doing the aoe 🤔
is it cross shaped or 8 tiles around it

[rich crow]

The sniper

He hits three/four adjacent tiles at the same time

Something like that

And should I turn my AOE sniper to the other side? My guard doesn’t seem to have enough damage to kill some enemies trying to get into with the straight road

He places his team like this

Maybe should I swap healer defender with the current beagle?

[spark sinew]

i would agree with that
actually what's your roster, maybe you have better options

[rich crow]

I don’t want to upgrade any other operators because I’m saving my resources for wisadel

[tawdry path]

truly the rosters of all time

[full terrace]

Ascalon would definitely shine in that anni.

The best defense is a good offense. If you kill them first they cant kill you. 👍

[civic bear]

borrow ling

[spark sinew]

e2 myrtle, no base workers, untouched exec, ouch
i wonder why you didn't use 5* kroos

[full terrace]

I think the guy borrowed Ifrit

[civic bear]

ifrit dmg isnt real 😔 why still borrow her in this day and age

[full terrace]

He is using Kyostin guide

[spark sinew]

would perfurmer be better than myrhh here

[full terrace]

I recognize that Ifrit setup

[rich crow]

I heard that if I had splash sniper, delpoy her/him there

So I took out kroos

[rich crow]

yup

[civic bear]

you can use the same setup with just another dps borrow. the core of the strat remains the same

ifrit just happens to be the main dps

[tawdry path]

I still think ifrit would probably one of the better borrows for this anni

[civic bear]

heck that pluma is doing similar job as ifrit would

[rich crow]

I'm saving almost everything for the upcoming banner. ... Maybe afterwards

[spark sinew]

chalter1 would probably do a better job i'm not gonna test it though

[civic bear]

move beagle 1 tile to the right

[spark sinew]

just follow ancool dalao

[civic bear]

let la pluma helps all lane

[full terrace]

I feel like Reed would solve so much problem in this anni. She heals so nobody died, and all those little tumors would definitely explode when she is on her S3.

[civic bear]

yes you can borrow reed too

[full terrace]

Then use Ascalon to dps as replacement for losing Ifrit.

[civic bear]

theres so many good borrow nowadays ifrit dmg doesnt even compete aside from being afk

[full terrace]

Yeah

[tawdry path]

the biggest issue for this anni is just those decoy guys really, if you can dps them you're good

[civic bear]

if you just setup defender at x you're good, they are killable when not inside sandstorm

i think borrowing ascalon is freewin. because afk record of that is just ascalon s1 + two defenders

[tawdry path]

neat

[warped seal]

hi it's me again
i got Ansel
should I build her or perfumer?

[tawdry path]

no silence?

[civic bear]

two defender because it tanks sandstorm, if you dont tank sandstorm you dont suffer

[full terrace]

Both for now, they are cheap to build 😅

[warped seal]

oh damn
alright

[full terrace]

Perfumer E1 Lv60 is enough

[warped seal]

kk

[spark sinew]

the phrase "two defenders" does heavy lifting here

[civic bear]

no shit cuz sandstorm reduce your atk

-50% atk down

if you just remove sandstorm it becomes so much easier

which you can

[rich crow]

I can?

[spark sinew]

we believe in you!

[rich crow]

Does anyone have reed alter? I need to add friend

[spark sinew]

(just reinforce stone blocks)

[rich crow]

To try your stratergy

[spark sinew]

i have her

[civic bear]

reinforcing mounds basicly makes you not interact with sandstorm

[rich crow]

Are we friends already?

[spark sinew]

funny joke

[rich crow]

Can you swap reed alter for me?

[spark sinew]

do you want s3

[rich crow]

Hmmm which skill suits here best?

[narrow pendant]

"I can, but whether i wil!"

[spark sinew]

s3 probably works as well
i put s3

[civic bear]

just use s3

[rich crow]

So sum up, replace ifrit with reed alter, myrtle/beagle move inside 1 block. Kroos 5* facing up

[full terrace]

@rich crow Use your Ascalon instead of Ethan btw.

[rich crow]

The rest ist the same

[rich crow]

Yeah i’m using her

[full terrace]

Are you using your Mountain?

[full terrace]

I think Mountain would be best utilized outside the healing range

Where your healer cant reach

And at front

[civic bear]

mountain is at e1 tho

might not be able to tank too much

[full terrace]

He has S2 right?

[civic bear]

yes but theres that one wave where there'd be bunch of range spam

you can place him bottom

[full terrace]

Hmm how about swapping Beagle with him then? They are both at bottom currently, with Beagle at front

[civic bear]

he has jessica

thats why

jes top

id do something like this ig

makes sure pluma helps best she could for both lanes

shes p much the 2nd core dps

[full terrace]

Where should he place his Ascalon then?

[civic bear]

technically could be where B is at. 1 tile to the top works too

[rich crow]

I’m thinking of something like this

[civic bear]

works too

[full terrace]

Yeah where the B is

Is best imo

[civic bear]

you dont want anybody blocking at J

cuz that waste possible dmg from both pluma

and reed

[full terrace]

Yeah that works

[civic bear]

cuz they wont be entering the range

[rich crow]

So reed on the right side or at bottom?

[civic bear]

either

same thing

same range

both covers the 7 possible tile enemies can get to

[rich crow]

Is lv15 E1 skill lvl7 ascalon enough? Skill 2 right

[civic bear]

is enough

just put jessica last

on top of pluma

this would cover all the ranged enemies

[rich crow]

Where should I place jessica and beagle?

[glass monolith]

Do you need to? La Pluma will murder most stage at this point anyway, also I would move Ascalon 1-2 tile down, there will be Infiltrator enemy who on hit gets unblockable till you kill his summon, and you might leak him if he summon outside everyone's range

[full terrace]

Yeah exactly my thought. I was thinking of having Ascalon handle the red shieldies, definitely move her down 1 tile and face her up.

[keen gull]

Theres a zuo le tile

[nocturne cove]

ik

[pure orchid]

Wtf roster jumpscare

[nocturne cove]

That's how I cleared ex-8

But cm

Not so much

[keen gull]

Brrw ines bro

Literally

[pure orchid]

Ok so

[nocturne cove]

I have sa for reveal if you mean that

[pure orchid]

Built ethan

Easy clap

[nocturne cove]

Ok 👌

[keen gull]

She gives bind and slow and a ton of dp

To shit out the roadblock

[nocturne cove]

Ton of dp hmm

[celest bluff]

why use so much

[nocturne cove]

The problem is not opening the sttage but it's either during the last wave

[full terrace]

See you want your Ascalon to hit those red shieldies in that blue-circled tile so that the holograms will spawn on that tile like this. If you put Ascalon up there, then she will hit those shieldies one tile to the left of the circled tile.

[keen gull]

Just place her infront of the assasin tat spawns at the start basically

[pure orchid]

Or texas myrtle cantabile and then do your previous strat

[nocturne cove]

Or when two shadow assassins come

[pure orchid]

idk why that wouldnt work

[keen gull]

Adhd

[nocturne cove]

Imma record

Later and send

[keen gull]

Is it the big spear dude

[nocturne cove]

Nah

[keen gull]

Or u cant burst the assasins?

[pure orchid]

Put more bursties

[nocturne cove]

I wrote the enemiy's name bro

Wdym

[keen gull]

Oh

Ok

[pure orchid]

Reading

[nocturne cove]

Lemme try

[pure orchid]

Wow

[keen gull]

Just bring mlynar basically

[pure orchid]

Not mlynar

Hes whatever here

[keen gull]

Just rmb to chain mlynar

[nocturne cove]

Just tell me what's the problem when I send my run

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586588921614303233/1297438294195568692/Theresa_dance.gif

[pure orchid]

Okay

[rich crow]

eh?

so I need to move ascalon down?

[full terrace]

Err basically your Ascalon should be in Ethan's position to avoid complication.

Yeah

[rich crow]

So I need to place her infront of la pulma?

[full terrace]

Yep

Facing up

[rich crow]

okay got it

And jessica alt on top of la pulam?

[civic bear]

whats that spot for

[rich crow]

I'm not sure...

[civic bear]

technically you could just let every enemy comes to la pluma herself

la pluma has true aoe

so she doesnt give a fk really

[rich crow]

So, i remove spot

so I'll have two deployment spots

[civic bear]

either remove or replace with jessica (and move 1 block down)

[rich crow]

Hmm I replace with jessica

[civic bear]

doesnt matter too much

as long as the core are doing their job

should be winning

[rich crow]

oh yes, last time I didn't know why but at around 388 my reed died

I was focusing on the otherside: I didn't turn kroos and arene skillon soon enough so my right side got leaked