strategy

[ocean ether]

dont worry about the trumpet guys, just keep placing the ball down and smacking it, the turret will take care of the boss and all the mobs (you can see from the video by what I mean by brute force no brain strat lol)

[high kettle]

lowkey my problem was dp gen

when i killed p1 i forgot to bait so waste of dp to redeploy

def doable for me

i will try again later

[ocean ether]

you had ines?

[high kettle]

myrtle

Nvm not rly dpgen

Just mess up so wasted dp

Then not enough do to block stuff for exalter

[ocean ether]

you were the one who wanted kal modulel to solo the top?

[high kettle]

kinda but that video ref had texalter trim the wave so still had to bring W

[south bone]

same position like the one in pic, well she's also the 2nd operator i deployed in the stage

[cosmic thicket]

fav comp for emergency deathless laterano

qb suzu is really strong even with sss stat bloat

[high kettle]

Fuck this stage

[ocean ether]

cm done?

[high kettle]

yeah

[ocean ether]

at least its done now
No more suffering until the next event anyways

[high kettle]

do we get dedweek

[sullen rover]

pyrolysis is basically a dead week

[ocean ether]

The real answer is... go to arknights reddit and search for datamine
Other than that, we can only pretend say we dont know because of discord rules

Reminder that whatever you see there cannot be discussed here. Pretty sure its a very grey area just to tell you to go reddit and look for it lol.

[summer copper]

used kafka after like half a year

still works good

[serene umbra]

Lessing good character ?

[foggy grove]

not really

[serene umbra]

Okay !

[terse sierra]

A tier, wtf

[spark sinew]

they rank within archetypes

makes for...some interesting rankings

[glass monolith]

Only thing I know about Lessing is he saved Skadi from "Only 6* guard who can't expand attack range with any of skills"

[ocean ether]

Only thing I know about lessing is he has a "on deploy" skill but no "on deploy" talent or deploy time reduction

[high kettle]

Why do i see people in friendid looking for a built one?

Some CC stuff?

[ocean ether]

should be CC stuff because of abnormal status immunity on S3

[vital arrow]

CC isnt even open rn

[ocean ether]

some people like preparing early

[vital arrow]

Does pyrolysis even use lessing

[serene umbra]

Oh I see I see

[foggy grove]

eh it's more likely they want to try to see how underwhelming he is

[spark sinew]

good into that RA weather and the boss

if you don't want/can't wait

but you can't borrow in RA so go raise your own

[foggy grove]

he isn't used on any cc outside of weird stuff like guard only

[tall cairn]

Which skill?

[glass monolith]

People put stuff on friend support not because they sure someone uses them. But because. If you refresh long enough you will find S1 Gravel

[spark sinew]

3

the weather stuns you

tbf since you need to raise him for RA i never tried to use him there myself

not sure about specifics

[south bone]

his dmg isn't poor what the fuck is gamepress smoking again this time

they need to stop comparing him with the limited 6* and other 6* dreadnought that needs her AH squad to actually work

[tall cairn]

Aight Lessing time.

[spark sinew]

he becomes immune right

not like Lee

[tidal sedge]

he cleanses existing CC, but I think he can get CC'D again later

[civic bear]

No

He's immune on s3

As long as skill is up

[tidal sedge]

o.O

[spark sinew]

yeah ok, then he indeed works in RA

well, "works"

[spark sinew]

what else do you compare him with

[remote perch]

with 3* ofc so he actually gets a W

[spark sinew]

dreadnoughts are a bad archetype, so comparing within that archetype seems fair

[ocean ether]

imagine comparing lessing outside of dreadnoughts archetype...

[south bone]

i'm waiting for someone to mention melantha dealing bigger damage than lessing

[soft crystal]

Lessing does good damage but he is still dreadnought

[mortal finch]

currently on ch4, is this good?

[soft crystal]

If you compare him to skadi or ntr hes not too far behind

[ocean ether]

thats 3 E2s more than me when I reached ch4...

[glass monolith]

If stage die before you do everything is ok. Also already havign like 3 e2 is overkill

[mortal finch]

event mats carried me fr

should i change any of them? got these guys at sl7 too

[ocean ether]

No need, thats complete overkill for chapter 4

[mortal finch]

alright thanks, im gonna speedrun ch 4 with this team

[high kettle]

Damn story

dont remind me i have a massive backlog

I am at the start of ch7

[ocean ether]

just skip all the story, rush the stages and then look at them later

[summer copper]

fr
when im in ch4 im still using half built 3 stars

[high kettle]

I want to feel the battle

But no time to read usually haha

[ocean ether]

its honestly annoying to read the story, then get interupted by a battle (that most of the time dosent even match the story details) and then get more story... its compounded by stages getting longer and longer story portions

[summer copper]

me simply go to prts wiki and read off the texts as its faster

[high kettle]

but muh images

[summer copper]

images aggressively moving up and down

[ocean ether]

lets see what I was doing when I reached ch4... hmmm I think it starts with "kyo's low rarity guide videos"

[summer copper]

the first time I started to go look at tutorials is at one of the CCs

don't have much time to spare at the time

[mortal finch]

whats CC?

[summer copper]

wait lemme quickly check

[ocean ether]

dont worry about it for now, really.. dont

[mortal finch]

why?

[ocean ether]

They took it down anyways

[summer copper]

got a new one thats generally more easier

[ocean ether]

you cant access it until next month, but there were old ones before this and they were 100% advanced content

I still get PTSD from the invisible missile tanks

[mortal finch]

better not touch it then

[ocean ether]

Anyways, you arent anywhere close to being able to do CC, so no point worrying about it

[summer copper]

CC#4 I believe

[ocean ether]

He is asking what CC itself stands for

[summer copper]

oh

[ocean ether]

P.S https://arknights.fandom.com/wiki/Contingency_Contract

just read this sentence~

[summer copper]

not for risk 18

18 is generally not that hard if you got a good risk combo

[ocean ether]

getting that good risk combo is the problem LOL

[summer copper]

true

[mortal finch]

btw i have leftover resource just to e2 1 4* operators, which one should i choose?

[summer copper]

whats all ops u got

[ocean ether]

suggest not E2ing 4 star operators anymore and focus on your 6 stars

[summer copper]

ye

unless you want to beat the levels with borrowed ling or smth

[ocean ether]

texalter staying at E1 is pretty cringeworthy

[mortal finch]

so rush texas to e2?

[ocean ether]

show your 6 stars, but unless you have someone like mlynar, it should still be yes

[summer copper]

compare to e2 4* I would recommend get a 6* e2 after got a stable squad thats enough for u to get through ch9

since u would get most of the materials you need in ch7 and 9

[mortal finch]

Exu, Muelsyse, Texas, Lessing, Eunectus

[ocean ether]

you mean after skiping to chapter 9 right? Not clearing chapter 8 right?

[summer copper]

ye ch8 is hard

[ocean ether]

Focus on texas

[summer copper]

I actually ended up clear ch8 after adverse ch13

[ocean ether]

dont bother with lessing and eunectus honestly

[mortal finch]

yea, heard theyre kinda bad

is ch 8 that hard?

[summer copper]

did you left the game for like 3 month
since u got muelsyse but ur ops are so low leveled

[ocean ether]

texalter will carry you throughout your entire arknights experience, newbie starting with texalter is actually a WTF moment

[ocean ether]

you want a spoiler?

[summer copper]

not that hard
just not worth it to touch on since it don't have much resources that you need

mainly clear it for originiums

[mortal finch]

its my friend account, he gave it to me for something

[summer copper]

oh alr

[ocean ether]

I mean it isnt really a spoiler, since its kinda obvious who you will be fighting

[mortal finch]

dragon girl right?

the one on the 3rd season poster

[ocean ether]

yep, okay here you go

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrm6TmCoEa0

[summer copper]

anyways
you only need to progress on to 10-11 since it got the best oriron cluster drop chance
could just leave the rest for future
so just build a stable squad that u can use evem in ch 10

actually to 10-12 since it got a decent grindstone drop chance

[ocean ether]

JT8-3 is one of thoese super healing intensive maps lol

[summer copper]

ye ye I will clear it after get logos

[ocean ether]

imagine still not being able to clear after logos

[summer copper]

fr

[mortal finch]

why is there a meteor on tower defense game

[ocean ether]

Thats not even the worst part

[summer copper]

kingdom rush meteor shower

[mortal finch]

does she deal arts damage?

[ocean ether]

Nope... she do TRUE damage

have fun

[summer copper]

haha

very fun

[ocean ether]

have fun indeed

[mortal finch]

bro what

im not gonna touch that stage

[ocean ether]

true damage means it ignores your defense and res

HAVE FUN HAHAHA

[summer copper]

yes

[mortal finch]

not even in one year

or two

[ocean ether]

it aint that bad tbh

theres some really broken operators coming soon anyways

[summer copper]

also I forgot
@mortal finch you can do is#2 and #3 monthly squad and deep exploration for faster resources
I did it on my friend's acc
super fast progression

[mortal finch]

already did that

[summer copper]

oh

[mortal finch]

touched 4 so far

[summer copper]

then why only 3 e2s lmao

[ocean ether]

@mortal finch I heard you hate meteors

[summer copper]

projectiles baby

[latent monolith]

Logos

[ocean ether]

imagine if all content from now on shall be balanced around owning both logos and walter

[mortal finch]

new operator?

[ocean ether]

its the current CN anniv operator, which is 6 months ahead of us

[south bone]

6 months later

[summer copper]

neh
I bet they are the limit
guess future ops will be focused on mechanisms more

[south bone]

cool nick btw

[mortal finch]

gotta save up orundums then

[ocean ether]

also on the same banner is Wiš'adel... who power creeps every single DPS in existence

[latent monolith]

pov chalter just came out

[summer copper]

lmao

[latent monolith]

Never underestimate HG cooking

[summer copper]

I mean they did gave us some mechanism-focused ops after that

[ocean ether]

I mean... Ray was considered a must pull before they revealed Walter

now she is a hard skip

[latent monolith]

I wouldn't really say a hard skip tbh

[ocean ether]

Typhon was a must pull before they pulled Ray out

[summer copper]

me pull on every new op banner:

[summer copper]

typhon is rlly a must pull even after Walter
s2 and s3 are both strong

[latent monolith]

Typhon seeing two better snipers release before she reached TW

[ocean ether]

Logos doing AFK better than typhon and probably thorns combined

[latent monolith]

inb4 degen releases we get siege alter in CN that powecreeps her

[ocean ether]

wth is "instant death if your HP below 100+% of my atk"

[summer copper]

still
typhon is the best op to live with before Walter banner come

[latent monolith]

Not really? Unless you're an afk main

Which tbf the only really afk ops upcoming are logos and maybe shu

[summer copper]

also for 3 star squad main*

[ocean ether]

I have button allergy

[latent monolith]

how is it a 3 star squad if you're running typhon

Even then someone like degen or ray would bring more value

[summer copper]

idk
smth like 1 or 2 6* + 3 stars

since her s3 gives way more dmg on heavy targets that 3* cant do much

[latent monolith]

Yeah but then degen ray existed before walter anyways

And they both can do that

On a much faster cycle with more reliability

[summer copper]

typhon got good s2 which degen and ray don't tho

[latent monolith]

Ye but if you're a newer player you probably want to be activating skills

[summer copper]

just likes to press buttons

[ocean ether]

nah

[latent monolith]

You just don't have the stats to afk through everything

[ocean ether]

if you new player, you want someone who can fully take pressure off you

so honestly? best op for new player who wants to learn things is eyjalter

[latent monolith]

Yes and using someone like degen and activating her skill would remove more pressure

[summer copper]

thats limited tho
gotta wait for next summer

[ocean ether]

she dosent kill stuff, but since she keeps your operators alive you have more leeway to learn how to play with lower level operators

[latent monolith]

Honestly I'm most excited to pull ray and zuole out of the upcoming ops

[ocean ether]

which eventually makes you a better player

mlynar and texalter are both bad in that they hard carry so much you dont learn shit

Mlynar being the worst since he has argo attract meaning you can just say "fk it" to deployment order

[mortal finch]

this is my main acc, the units are kinda underlevel because its only been 16 days since its creation and im kinda lost on this one. any tips?

skill level for most of them are 4

[summer copper]

how comes ur friends acc are better built

[mortal finch]

because im bad at managing resource

[ocean ether]

Honestly? You should just use your friend's account

its not the resource, its the operator

[summer copper]

fr

and I bet ur friend dont play this game at all

[mortal finch]

is texal alter the reason?

[ocean ether]

texalter alone is worth everyone you have

[summer copper]

fr

but at least u got thorn

one of the best for new players

[mortal finch]

yea get him from TO

[ocean ether]

but thorns fall off once you get to mid - late game

[summer copper]

at least its enough for ch10 or smth

[ocean ether]

though when anniv 5 comes, he goes back up because module

[mortal finch]

saw from a video his module enchants his poison

is the enchants significant?

[ocean ether]

about doubles his dps

[mortal finch]

isn't that good enough?

oh wait 6 month ahead

[ocean ether]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7Ild1Tv-Dg

depending on how you look at it, might not be just double

[mortal finch]

thats triple the dps

but then, i have to wait 6 month for it

[glass monolith]

Kills faster. Has nothing to attack to charge S3. Mega L

[mortal finch]

isn't s3 already unlimited?

[ocean ether]

Time to bring stainless to every match

[ocean ether]

Most maps cant build thorns skill fast enough

[weak gazelle]

bring another ops to enabling thorns

[ocean ether]

its unlimited after you activate for 2nd time, but trying to activate for 2 times is the main problem lol

[weak gazelle]

idk, judge yourself

[mortal finch]

are there no ops that can help with offensive recovery?

[ocean ether]

chen and stainless

[mortal finch]

dont have neither of them

[ocean ether]

both arent exactly the best to bring

[mortal finch]

what should i do with my acc then?

should i just banish it to the shadow realm?

[ocean ether]

keep it as your alternate account and maybe play with it when you bored

then swap your main account to the other one

[latent monolith]

Both thorns and SA mod are kinda cracked

[ocean ether]

your account is actually pretty good... if the other one didnt have texalter LOL

[weak gazelle]

no worry
just play as usual
if the aim are only general content any 6* dps worth it
even vigil who i really bad mouth it every single time

[ocean ether]

who knows, maybe in 6 months if you pull on that account, you get texalter

[latent monolith]

I didn't calculate thorns but SA mod is over 2x dps on mid def enemies

[summer copper]

instead of Walter

[ocean ether]

bring 300 pulls and that problem is solved

[summer copper]

lmao

[ocean ether]

300 pulls and walter is free gift anyways

[mortal finch]

f2p could never

[ocean ether]

If you dont pull from now until anniv 5? You can

Should you do it? NO

[summer copper]

if u save for 9 month*

[mortal finch]

but anni 5 is in 6 months

[ocean ether]

He has a chance because new player. Theres like 1.5k OP to claim from missions

[mortal finch]

and i only got 20 pull on that acc

[summer copper]

new annis and thingy from shop should erase the 3 month gap

[ocean ether]

300 pulls is 999 OP equilvant

[weak gazelle]

300 pulls can be achieved within 6 months
but you have to skip every banner until then

[mortal finch]

good, i can skip everything on one acc and try to get the good ops on another

[weak gazelle]

good move?
idk, there is bunch of strong ops from degenbrecher up to wishadel

[mortal finch]

pray

like a lot of pray

[glass monolith]

not to mention "god knows when R6 third collab is" thing

[ocean ether]

degen, ray, shu (cny limited), ela (collab limited), Walter + logos

skiping Walter will be the worst possible decision tbh

[weak gazelle]

if being strict with the no pulls until wishadel
the best scenario is next limited
shu & zuo le
and got zuo le with free pulls

well its gacha, good luck is the best i can say

[lusty basin]

ray got done so dirty

[glass monolith]

Nobody draw her chupacabra on her arts

[ocean ether]

This is half of what makes logos OP https://youtu.be/VXlj7yDIVSA?si=I7Am9TlRDHspZvIk&t=55

Ok, first of all. You cant talk about that here, its a ban if mod sees

delete message first LOL

[mortal finch]

why cant talk?

[weak gazelle]

rule#5

[glass monolith]

Because it is literally leak/prediction of unannounced bs?

[ocean ether]

Its written in rules, rule#5 and instant ban lol

[rich rune]

Must talk strategy. Not gacha. Go to salt mines for gacha.

[ocean ether]

Next, you can go to arknights reddit and search for "datamine" in past month to find out all the info, but as usual, you cant talk about what you see there over here

[mortal finch]

i forgot this is official server

[ocean ether]

Just me saying this is a giant gray area LOL

Now to talk if a certain person that may or may not be coming soon is good or not? For your team, probably good

but is she worth 180 certs? Eh....

You might be better off getting 258 and converting that to pulls

[mortal finch]

so no mudmud and mumu on the same team?

[glass monolith]

Gnosis Aurora are "new" shoperators.
Lee Blacknight i think are next "new" shoperator in pattern unless Yostar fucked up release order which i am too lazy to check
What operators happen in between New shoperators are outside my care about plan

[ocean ether]

SPECULATION

[rich rune]

Aight, I just got to the first Mephisto fight, any suggestions?.

[ocean ether]

send team

[glass monolith]

I was there when it was written those shitty events released

[weak gazelle]

if mumu clone tech/idea
stick with ranged one
dorothy (trapper) or marksmen

[mortal finch]

what chapter is that?

[weak gazelle]

because its better

[dapper hedge]

The one with Faust? Just mlynar middle

[mortal finch]

mumu + exu it is

[rich rune]

Yes, that one. And I have no Mlynar 😦

[ocean ether]

send team...

before someone else assumes you have something you dont

[rich rune]

Ah, later then bc I don't have my tablet I use for AK on me.

[mortal finch]

why not use 2 devices at the same time?

[ocean ether]

devices?

[mortal finch]

i mean phone, tablet, pc etc

heard you can play 1 acc on 2 of those

just dont log in at the same time

[ocean ether]

more than 2 lol

[rich rune]

I was working on getting an LDplayer AK download for my new tablet that runs on windows. But the download stops if I turn it off and I'm running errands rn.

[mortal finch]

LDplayer?

[spice mortar]

You think swalter could push these guys

[rich rune]

Android emulator for PC OS

[spice mortar]

M3

[mortal finch]

isn't ak already have emulator?

[mortal finch]

idk im newbie

[spice mortar]

Then im not asking you

[rich rune]

I'm pretty sure LDplayer is the emulator that most PC AK players use.

[mortal finch]

sry then

[latent monolith]

No

[bold lance]

Medium push strength will barely displace weight 4

[spice mortar]

Ah ty

S 3 makes it tempting with the holes

[bold lance]

Nah, that's cope

[ocean ether]

dont bother lol

[mortal finch]

didnt know that, only play ak on mobile

[ocean ether]

Eh no, its still bluestacks

Bluestacks have been around the longest, so most ppl just default to bluestacks

though this is definetly not #strategy talk anymore

unless we talk about how bluestacks keep crashing me mid match

[rich rune]

Fair. I'll take it elsewhere.

[ocean ether]

I am just wondering... are Walter turrets counted as teleportable objects by witch king?

[elder flume]

Weird stallable map

[ornate loom]

would this be a good squad for early game content clearing? currently on 3rd chapter and a lot of people told me that its better to run with 3* through the early game

[ocean ether]

eh... who told you that?

3 stars quickly fall off, so its better to change them out as soon as possible, but by ASAP, I mean to a 5 star or 6 star

early game can usually be carried by one or two good 6 star units so you... didnt need to max all your 3 stars

thats a giant waste of resources especially when resources are super scarce for a newbie

[ornate loom]

thats not my screenshot lmao

[ocean ether]

thats good then

its best to sub in your own units

[ornate loom]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586588958885150721/1241035469496778873/image.png?ex=6648bbd9&is=66476a59&hm=9dd6a7742048e729f4884fb343f69ff09636bd9dedcd9d40915e2b4cb780c5a4&
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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586588958885150721/1241035470335643748/image.png?ex=6648bbd9&is=66476a59&hm=6584d118fc7d63c7edb7badd9243168c33dcb6fa2e061adf81e9646808ba5389&
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586588958885150721/1241035470918647931/image.png?ex=6648bbd9&is=66476a59&hm=67f62d44e08c6d69547de83f9b34be6ff24e4390d7341b403097a1ed78b34fc9&

[ocean ether]

whoever you have thats better

[ornate loom]

my squad and my ops

[ocean ether]

honestly... I would say re-roll, but you just missed the limited banner

[ornate loom]

lmao no im not rerolling

[ocean ether]

out of thoese there

archetto / flametail / silence / lappland / spot / kroos / melentha / bassline or gummy (gummy cheaper) / perfumer / myrtle

thoese can at least bring you to mid game, theres also some ops that are good to have

gravel (you need a FRD for some stages anyways)
steward (you need a caster for now anyways)
lava (same deal with steward)
shaw (for push strats)
popkuar (because you are severely lacking in lane holder department)

dont bother with amiya for now, she needs E2 to be useful. Though she is a compulsory must E2 for story, but thats chapter 8 and 14 (not yet released). You can directly skip to 9

Steward is objectively a better caster than amiya

You will want to focus your efforts on archetto, her hitting E2 will help to carry you quite abit

definetly not as good as rerolling for mountain though LOL

lappland also has a very big priority on getting to at least E1

[normal ferry]

Lappland prefers S2

[high kettle]

she can nope some annoying enemy gimmicks

[modern copper]

what are good laneholders other than like cutter and humus at 4star

[spark sinew]

that's it

[modern copper]

ouch

what is a lane holder anyway

arent defenders supposed to keep a lane held

make sure no enemies go across

[spark sinew]

bubble/cuora + click and pinecone would be the closest "laneholders" you'll have

it's a very broad term that has as many definitions as there are people, i went with your definition, assuming cutter and humus as the baseline

[modern copper]

bubble?

[modern copper]

yes all operators are people

and robots

[spark sinew]

i think no operators are people, but you can argue that most are

with just some animal features

[modern copper]

well close enough i guess

i guess we should generalize to humanoid

[modern copper]

bubble? pinecone? who are they

[modern copper]

idk, what are cutter and humus used for

the definition wasnt really specified so i kinda just guessed it to be "make sure no enemies get past"

[spark sinew]

4* ops

[spark sinew]

eh it's like
stuff that holds lanes, usually solo or with healer at most. So most people wouldn't count something like healing defender+ ranged dps as a laneholder for example

but they might count Blaze + medic

[narrow patrol]

Cutter is a decently powerful dual strike guard for a 4 star

[spark sinew]

laterano one is interesting
i feel like you can go a bit funnier in comp and go no supporters

[normal ferry]

Isnt she powerful not thinking about archtype too in her rarity

[spark sinew]

although emergency laterano is so easy with the right ops it's unreal...

comparing it with lighthouse

won't you leak shit on exec

relying on mlynar to clean up that last wave?

the answer is no

just tried it

in every stage it's just not good

hp pool is too small, can't use the device to gain more currency to dig through deck, doesn't do even do much damage because no huge waves to make true aoe good

[spice mortar]

How to deal w zt s 5 middle?

[spark sinew]

what do you have

[spice mortar]

My acc still fits in 1 ss

[spark sinew]

i've seen people use mud for tanking the middle

what's ethan s2 uptime
i used qb+ mizuki s2 for my clear

you can cycle burst/stall with your units

between mosti SA qb and mud it should be fine
just need to figure out who goes to hold the top right

executor is very good for the middle as well

(i can also see Kal borrow for holding the top and just concentrating the rest in the middle)

[cosmic thicket]

only -2 max i think

i just did a run where i replaced mlynar with qiubai in a slightly different spot and it was no leaks

[lusty meadow]

Need help on zt-s-5 challenge mode this is the squad I'm using

Tried it with blaze as support to hold the right lane but still couldn't do enough damage to kill the boss

[cyan gorge]

Try Exalter borrow

[dapper hedge]

gravel/yato*2 is a scam imho, just bring more dps you can cycle in & out when get tp'ed

Burst him like this

[glass monolith]

You could also just deploy Pozy turret looking on hole
Or turret during first hole so it apply def down as ball does physical

[dapper hedge]

Yep, I definitely didn't forget to put down her typewriter not at all

[modern copper]

Good for 3-6?

I get overwhelmed by the casters at the beginning

Cus they get to take free shots at my ops while wait for them to walk to the end

[forest steppe]

I know Kernal Headhunting is generally not considered good, but is it worth getting the guaranteed five star from the first ten pulls?

[spark sinew]

never

it's actually just a scam

[glass monolith]

Alot of 5* are not worth investing over 4*, 6* alternatives

[spark sinew]

1. 5* have 8% chance to be gotten with each pull anyway
2. 5* generally suck

[forest steppe]

Alright, I'll keep rolling on the banner then. Gnosis and Ebenholz are aesthetically pleasing

[spark sinew]

huh

rolling for 6* on kernel is worse but it's your call

[forest steppe]

I'm rolling on the rate up banner not the kernal tho

[spark sinew]

...i forgot

yeah it's not that bad if you like them

we don't really have good upcoming males

only logos

although power wise the future new banners are insane

• a lot of limited banners, just a heads-up

[forest steppe]

Mlynar is my favourite dude, but I have no idea how to get him

[spark sinew]

i believe he would be in upcoming Joint Operation banner, unless I'm misremembering

it's basically a banner that only has 4 6* in pool

[forest steppe]

So the only 6 stars you can pull are the featured ones?

[remote perch]

the next next JO

[spark sinew]

yeah, 25% chance for each

[forest steppe]

2% chance to make a 25% chance roll. Oh lordy

Well probably the best odds I'll get

[spark sinew]

pretty much

he's 25% rate up at most nowadays

[remote perch]

you can always just buy him if you're that desperate

[forest steppe]

Nah I'm not that desperate, still not sure whether or not I'm gonna hard commit to this game

but the option is there I suppose

[spark sinew]

actually

do you like Executor design

[astral cosmos]

so uh

I'm still stuck on EX 8

before i try out a different strategy im just gonna ask for other ideas, might be beneficial

[fiery marsh]

No 6*?

[astral cosmos]

nah, I'm doing frostleaf tower

[vivid rain]

Why does frostleaf tower include leon what

[astral cosmos]

not like he's gonna do much anyway

[fiery marsh]

i did AH only, dont even know what frostleaf tower is

[spark sinew]

you're doing some mighty weird tower though

not using any 6*

i know you have them

[astral cosmos]

it's a frostleaf tower with my squad, that's why

too ez otherwise

[fiery marsh]

I would say kill second phase boss fast but i dont think it is possible with this squad

First phase you can delay

[astral cosmos]

yeah, that's what im trying to do
except elites are ramming into my frontline in the meantime and i have to manage them too

no need to delay first phase anyway, i melt it in 5 seconds

[fiery marsh]

The thing is that delaying it you have more time to breath killing all the first wave elite enemies first

[astral cosmos]

the other thing being, if I let him teleport near my frontline everyone dies

(I tried stalling)

[fiery marsh]

Maybe can time it to fast second phase boss killing. If you can mealt the first you probally can do ir for the second

[fiery marsh]

Ah

[astral cosmos]

yh, the 2nd is manageable
rn I'm trying to stall bottom shield dudes for my dps to focus on the boss
roberta is doing great but she dies of death a bit too soon
gonna have to rotate i think 🤔

the other issue being no defenders

[astral cosmos]

figured it out!

funniest thing being, the auto seems more stable than the one I did with 6*

now im gonna have to redo two EXs with different ops but it's fine they're ez

[astral cosmos]

aaaaaand ZT EX frostleaf tower done! that was a wild ride

even managed to not use matterhorn
now onto recording every stage again

[south bone]

Holy shit finally, phase 2 is so ez compared to phase 1

[solemn gust]

I am disabled

[odd swallow]

He doesn't really do a lot in Phase 2 so you can just burst him quick in Phase 1

[rich rune]

These are the ops I'm likely working with. My Silence and Fiametta will be at e2 by tomorrow.

[summer copper]

s4-5or4-7?

[solemn gust]

Both

[summer copper]

[radiant dune]

hey cmon we can tell ya havent even tried s4-5, it'd show the empty hexagon

[summer copper]

I don't even know that
you get empty hexagon if not tried the level?

aiyo it actually does

[radiant dune]

yeah it's just blank next to the level if you havent ever attempted

[radiant dune]

also whats actually killin ya there? I can't exactly see much wrong with team comp aside from some things bein a lil underleveled

[somber stone]

“I am disabled”

[solemn gust]

Honestly, I don't like evolving characters that I don't like or that I'm probably going to discard, but the difficulty of the story starts to change drastically and I end up and I don't get used to it enough to pass it easily, I understand that it's a strategy game but honestly I'm going to be stuck at this stage until I make my first pulls on the next banner

[radiant dune]

do u happen to own lappland

I'm assuming the deluge of explosive slugs is messing ur frontline up too much

[summer copper]

true
anyways @solemn gust this is one of the deployment u can use, this is CM
obviously u can't copy it cause ur ops are under leveled but im sure u can figure something outta it since u only need to get through normal mode
also ansel was not used, I thought i might need him but I actually don't

used myrtle S2 to simulate sl7 s1

didn't use healing of myrtle

[solemn gust]

This stage is so difficult for me, I already tried using a lappland but it still made it very difficult for me, I'll take your tip to my game, thank you

[summer copper]

[plucky roost]

Umm... Help?
I'm stuck with this stage for 3 years now I guess

[cosmic thicket]

nightingale opopop

[shut hazel]

How do you unlock that EG stage ?

[plucky roost]

It was so long I might be wrong but to unlock EG-5 you have to unlock all previous EG stages

[shut hazel]

EG stage only at chapter 8 ?

Since i dont see any EG stage at my chapter

[plucky roost]

Yes it was a ch8 gimmick

[shut hazel]

Hmmm ok thanks

Im just try to unlock it

[vital arrow]

Evolving as in, promoting characters?

[ocean ether]

I just realize... dorothy mines charges thoese turrets LOL

[high warren]

Now I can attempt those goofy event stages again was prob ex7/8

Gg dorothy

It don't cost deployment ye?

[ocean ether]

nope

drawing SP from mines

this is indeed very hilarious LOL

[ornate loom]

perfumer skill 1 or skill 2?

[ocean ether]

2

[olive widget]

Any suggestion to beat this coral thing ?

[smoky halo]

physical dmg

mlynar works well here

u can counter stage mechanics by bringing eyjamedic

[olive widget]

Okay mlynar it is,thank you

[glass monolith]

Also there is alternate big brain move of leaking that shit and not leaking anything else

[summer copper]

thats me right there

[vivid rain]

Sounds like my stall strat from the previous poison haze tower

[celest solstice]

need help with ZT-S-5, I dont know what composition works best, I just cheesed ZT-S-3 with DPS, can you guys help me build a team comp?
https://krooster.com/u/RamminRam

I wanna use mlynar but taunt

[lusty basin]

if you rush phase 1 with Typhon, one Mlynar activation can clear out the Cellists + other melancholic mobs during a passionate variation, while helping get phase 2 down to 50%
Typhon can do a lot

I haven't tried Mudrock but I imagine she's your best outer laneholder

[uneven jay]

You can hold the middle lane with Mudrock and the top with Blaze.
And then kill the boss with Exu and Skadi Alter, but make sure to bait the teleport with your fast redeploy

also bring at least two medic

[lusty basin]

yea you definitely have options
with your DPS you should be looking to rush both phases and not stall

rushing phase 1 makes the center melancholic mobs really easy since you have a good passionate cycle to clear them out during phase 2

if you do want to jam Mlynar just deploy him at phase transition

[celest solstice]

I dont have skadi alter tho

[cyan gorge]

You could use KYato + Exu on orb and boss gets evaporated

[celest solstice]

oh right good idea

exu couldnt kill boss in 1 cycle

with yato

well idk how to handle mid proficiently

ik how to kill the boss but thats it

[round yew]

I used mizuki and jessalt (you can use blaze instead of jess, will probably work better)

[celest solstice]

for mid? how bout bottom hto

tho

can I just mountain it?

[lusty basin]

Mountain and/or Mudrock yea

killing the boss removes any threat from outer lane

[celest solstice]

@brazen linden

remove this bot

[celest solstice]

mountain got killed by the purple swordsmen at bottom lane and I leaked mid lane

[rich rune]

If you can spare a guardian defender use them behind Mountain for healing. Use Saria for sp recovery or Bassline for res buff. And they can be emergency lane holding if mountain still goes down.

[celest solstice]

I do not have a saria

nor do I have bassline built

[celest solstice]

you can refer here to what I have

[rich rune]

Maybe use Silence drone to keep mountain alive. And some sort of sp recovery to get the drone faster.

Maybe Lin for the occasional shield.

[celest solstice]

oh right I forgot that Mountain died after getting stunned

like another wave of purple angry mobsters killed him

[rich rune]

Therapist medic for the stun maybe?

[spark sinew]

a lot of stuff would just die if you unstun them

[celest solstice]

I have reedic

[spark sinew]

I'm fairly sure mountain will

[celest solstice]

Im not sure how I would approach this

[rich rune]

Maybe build Bassline to e1 for his s2 for the res buff.

[round yew]

zt-s-5? Aren't there only 2 blue boxes in top and mid?

[celest solstice]

yeah

wait what

I thought its mid and bottom

[round yew]

well anyway, you have to switch the song to avoid getting stunned

[spark sinew]

you can also just burst/stall them, depending

[celest solstice]

but... I ended up killing the boss on the bottom right or at the middle right

Exu too stronk

[whole crater]

How do u kill the stun dudes in s 5

They r kinda tanks

Tanky

[round yew]

oh, boss 2nd phase
ig you gotta time it right then

[dapper hedge]

Kill the boss before the stun dudes spawn

[celest solstice]

I cant do that, my exusiai isnt timed correctly

should I just use S2?

[whole crater]

Does the ball have really high weight

Why does my Irene do 0 damage with the ball

[scarlet mortar]

it's basically a summon, you can't levitate it

[whole crater]

That sucks

Is this an OK setup for s 5 cm

[spark sinew]

looks alright

hard to say if you can improve it since we don't know your roster people did clear it with like double executor + exalter
so this should clear

[ocean ether]

S5 CM is just... smack the ball as much as you can, and you will clear

[ocean ether]

You only need to invert the 2nd purple song on P1. Other than that, just brute force with your DPS ops and keep smacking the ball.
Of course, dont forget to bait the teleport, in my case I just deploy mlynar as bait lol.

You can replace any of these ops with your own, the top is your best laneholder, the middle dosent really matter, just need someone to block. Thorns can be replaced with silverash or exalter or anyone who can DPS
Top range tile can be eyja with S3, typhon or any range really. Pozy's position can be replaced with exuia or archetto or anyone else, use either nightingale or eyjalter, skalter can be subbed for another DPS or healer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qt64LNuAPyQ

[summer copper]

Can I smack urs

[ocean ether]

"that was a good kick"

[summer copper]

[ocean ether]

Thorns new skin will be kicking ppl in the balls

BTW, if typhon S3 locks onto the boss, she 1 cycles P1 if no mobs blocking. Thats just me being too lazy to lock onto the boss

[whole crater]

Idk the mechanics but that was the easiest s stage cm I've done

I just bruteforced it

Idk how the teleport works but it took my helidrops every time and sometimes my tank so I was chilling

[ocean ether]

pretty much the S 5 experience lol, dont worry about timings and just brute force it. Much easier that way

[whole crater]

Yea i just press all my skills off cd

Kinda big brain strat

[ocean ether]

I feel like S5 punishes you for thinking too hard lol

[whole crater]

Don't even activate the node thing a single time

Idk how u even think it's just 1 unit botlane

And hit boss speedrun

[high warren]

My s5 was full of copium

My units died too much, fortunately boss was stationary p2

I had to cope hold center with bagpipe at a time

[whole crater]

U don't need to hold if you have enuf dps

[dapper hedge]

The stage is free after WK dead phase2, stun boys can't stun anymore

[swift breach]

I'm kind of having a lot of trouble getting my clear for ZT-S5-CM , any tips or i'm not sure. First time asking for help with AK

[ocean ether]

show team

[ocean ether]

lol

[swift breach]

i used this comp for regular but i've been struggling with CM

[whole crater]

U can 1 cycle him

Just hit ball

[ocean ether]

just brute force it @swift breach ^

[whole crater]

U need more dp tho

Just bring myrtle

[cosmic thicket]

i don't think DP will be the issue here tbh

[swift breach]

ngl i've been dumb since launch my myrtle is lacking lol

[cosmic thicket]

canta gets a lot of value, but siege doesn't seem to do a lot

[swift breach]

i have bagpipe and texas at a decent level too

[ocean ether]

no eyjalter right?

[swift breach]

unfortunately non

[cosmic thicket]

you might be able to cut gravel bc mlynar baits a teleport

unless u plan to deploy him after boss dies

[swift breach]

yeah i realized that no matter what mylnar gets tp'd against wich king

i've tried following strats with taking mountain on outer lane

[cosmic thicket]

but if ur deploying mlynar after boss dies it's def too late

[ocean ether]

you can have either mudrock or kal there

[cosmic thicket]

yeah mudrock can deal with the wind guys pretty nicely

[ocean ether]

just use the turret to kill the annoying mobs

[whole crater]

I personally liked just using surtr at the start to kill the two big dudes

[swift breach]

some of the alternative units i have too

[ocean ether]

lol you can 100% brute force this

[whole crater]

I think surtr > sa

Pozy is also rlly good since u can double hit

[ocean ether]

Just bring both

[swift breach]

so keep mylnar with my supp unit and then swap out SA for Surtr?

pozy instead of exia?

[dapper hedge]

Yea

[whole crater]

Cut gravel too

[cosmic thicket]

u could even run chen if u want to do a shitton of burst to the ball

[swift breach]

i don't have a myrtle atm (lol) but elysium could sub for dp?

[ocean ether]

@swift breach just watch this, silverash on thorns pos, thorns on mountain pos
eyja on typhon pos, mudrock on blaze pos

Find someway to deal with the DP problem, or just wait because boss has alot of leeway time. Can borrow eyjalter and then smack a DPS on skalter pos if you want more DPS

If you smacking ball, just use surtr and texalter to smack it

[cosmic thicket]

sure

[swift breach]

if i borrow a eyjalter i won't have a mylnar

[ocean ether]

you dont need a mlynar lol

[swift breach]

alright

[ocean ether]

mlynar in s5 is just to meme the teleport because too lazy to put FRDs

[swift breach]

which skill would you rec for mudrock

s2?

[ocean ether]

s2 will do

most of the enemies will be killed by turrets anyways so no point worry about it

[swift breach]

i have s3 m2 but i've noticed it can cause leaks

[ocean ether]

just remember to invert 2nd purple song

the stun is annoying

[spark sinew]

you usually use s3 preemptively

it only works vs already blocked enemies when they're really slow

[ocean ether]

yea just slap ely in myrtle pos and cantabile in ines pos, should solve the DP issue

[cosmic thicket]

Ely wants s1

I doubt the slow will be super helpful especially in phase 1 where you could control the device

[ocean ether]

eyajalter borrow S1

she dosent need to press any buttons to keep your team alive, needing to press buttons just complicate things

[swift breach]

can i swap the skills on a supp unit?

[ocean ether]

unfortunately no

[swift breach]

i'm not sure what the skill icons for eyjalter look like

[swift breach]

ty , doesn't look like anyone is running her with s1 on my friends list atm

[ocean ether]

SL7 is enough tbh

SL7 to M3 is only 10% more healing

if you need, I just set mine to eyjalter Klipwc#5911

[swift breach]

oki i'll add now tyty

[ornate loom]

where do i put cutter?

[vital arrow]

replace melantha or vigna

[ornate loom]

which one of those two

[vital arrow]

either works

pick the one you like less

[spark sinew]

it's stage dependent

the most similar unit to cutter in your team is actually lapp

i would honestly boot flametail off here, but

[swift breach]

i'm kinda still struggling lol, might need some backseating..i've managed to get to phase 2 a few time brain is fried tho

[astral pilot]

Is zt-3 the hardest? Or there is more tougher stage

I hope not

[whole crater]

s5 is braindead if u have roster

[spark sinew]

s5 was fairly hard

not harder than s3 i suppose

but didn't feel braindead to me. Although maybe i'm just bad

[whole crater]

well if u have decent ops its very bruteforceable

[swift breach]

i did it

ty guys

[spark sinew]

i do think my roster is alright

[spark sinew]

although it's kinda weird since most of it is usually not worth using nowadays...

so having wide roster doesn't seem to help much

[whole crater]

nice

[deft badger]

someone explain

[scarlet fulcrum]

1st Use balls
2nd Change the melody for said times

[deft badger]

zt8 use ball, on ex4 do that stupid big tower thing?

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yeah

[deft badger]

ty

[scarlet fulcrum]

Do it on normal

np

[craggy turret]

Zt-s-3? He does not consent to being killed. The timer is the real boss tbh

[modern plover]

Just last deploy 2 brick

[craggy turret]

I place down surtr? teleported! I place down Typhon? teleported!

[scarlet fulcrum]

Its 25% hp on s-3

Each tp

[modern plover]

Life hack: if you can cancel his tele ability if you dmg past the threshold fast enough

[scarlet fulcrum]

surely they can do that

[craggy turret]

Alr so I should deploy my DPS first?

[modern plover]

https://youtu.be/walTB5inLRE?si=EUxULIQQImXcDYkk

Surely bunch of broken op can do as well clueless

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yeah i meant would they follow that?

[craggy turret]

My brain is smooth, head empty

All that's up there is bury the light by miku

[scarlet fulcrum]

Boss respect taunt yeah, so just do that

The teleport bait thingy

[craggy turret]

Mlynar sacrificial horse

[scarlet fulcrum]

sure, ball carried u anyway

[craggy turret]

Ball?

[scarlet fulcrum]

Aspect annihialtion or smt

[craggy turret]

Will I have to deal with the phase 2 shield?

[scarlet fulcrum]

Ball will ignore shield

[craggy turret]

Alr thx brvs

[scarlet fulcrum]

Just atk ball with ur dps when boss aligned with shooter

[craggy turret]

Ball as in the event mechanic I thought it was an op

[scarlet fulcrum]

Just fnuuy name

[merry narwhal]

Yes, it's physical damage. But there is always one cannon to avoid the shield, so it's just timing on your Marksman

[deft badger]

didnt even know ball does dmg to him

[scarlet mortar]

all of the ZT boss stages are based around the portal getting to shoot the boss for free

[deft badger]

i tought ball is there to charge towers only

[scarlet mortar]

every 0.5s the portal converts all the damage taken into a phys bullet

it's powerful as fuck lmao

[deft badger]

well if i did know that then my runs would have been much easier

[scarlet mortar]

especially when you combo it with passionate aspd buff, marksmen turn into high dph machines

[primal tree]

please i beg anyone got any easy ZT-S-3 EX tutorial😭😭 i been trying kyo's low star strat for the past 5 hours

[serene umbra]

Hello !
I still have this in my depot, I choose Vulcan or Indra ?

[radiant mesa]

Whichever you don't have otherwise whichever you like more

[serene umbra]

okay !

[sterile drum]

In zts5 how do I get the boss guy to teleport away at like start of game. Im following a strat and they place execalter and the boss teleaport away and he doesn't like skill stun him
But when I do it, execalter get stun die.

[turbid badge]

ze 5 sucks

[turbid badge]

yellow music

utilize funny two marksmen and 5 dp orb thing

fastest p1 clear

[sterile drum]

Ah thank you

[tidal sedge]

Hm. Lee in middle sounds funny. Though he'll eat Insipidity due to taunt

[sterile drum]

wait so he'll teleport if the music is yellow?

[tidal sedge]

With this being yet another time I'd like consistent taunt. I guess I'll raise my Mlynar after all.

[turbid badge]

finally

[turbid badge]

i only used once to taunt

thats it

[tidal sedge]

I love Provence targeting

[turbid badge]

lol

jessica tower

almost ded

[sterile drum]

I finally beat normal... now to do challenge... s5

[tidal sedge]

Pluma can't nuke starting cellists due to cm stat buff

[sterile drum]

And i pulled off thorns aak

[tidal sedge]

Ngl, in recent times the cm stat buff has been more obnoxious more often than the additional condition.

[sterile drum]

Who needs a real medic

[turbid badge]

same

cm makes me annoyed

[latent halo]

Do u still need help ?

[modern copper]

in a bit

[sterile drum]

oka so im all out of practice ticket things... but out of mlynar, execalter, or someone else who can hold middle for s5

[vocal leaf]

SA had a similar problem in s3 cm, he couldn’t kill the conductors with the extra stat, but if we had his module he should’ve been able to do it

[tidal sedge]

Lee can, but only after Witch King dies

Gavialter s2 holds until second set of shrimp spam overwhelms her during the downtime

[fierce ibex]

Exalter can hold mid by himself but I think it depends on level and you might need to bait the stun guys so he doesn't get oneshoted

Also, you can charge s3 with the ball

[sterile drum]

i cant get pass phrase 1

im starting with ling at top middle to hit music, then bp top left, then placing summer behind bp to help then execalter mid after boss tp then sometime after that i die to the middle guys

gavel there for when boss tp or i need to stale but yeah

i was thinking of switching aak to s1 so it get hit the ball

[fierce ibex]

You can just use gravel at the beginning to hit music

Also, what do you mean with summer?

[sterile drum]

i ment summon

it auto correct

[fierce ibex]

You can change to bp s2 if you are using her for laneholding

[sterile drum]

is it oka if no mastery on it

[tidal sedge]

BP s2 without at least m1 is pretty bad

[sterile drum]

for middle im using a mix of ling summons to stall

[vocal leaf]

arent you wasting too much dp with ling dragons? thorns and a blocker can afk outer lane

[sterile drum]

that could be the issue but my main problem is middle

ling summon + bp and my healer usuing do outer lane fine

[worldly stirrup]

If you have mudrock. She can solo middle

[sterile drum]

i dont

[vocal leaf]

exalt and sa can clear the initial enemies in middle and kill boss p1 as well

[sterile drum]

how/when should i place so they dont die

well tbh execalter stays alive it just the guy walks pass him

i am prob wasting a bunch of dp spam placing ling dragon in mid

does mudrock hold lane early/p1 time ?

[worldly stirrup]

I use mudrock for the entire stage

[sterile drum]

actually we'll skip that since no one on my friend have her support

[worldly stirrup]

Maybe blaze

[sterile drum]

i would just have to time the music to keep her alive then?

[worldly stirrup]

Yeah

And use helidrop to help her if she got overwhelmed

[sterile drum]

what skill

[worldly stirrup]

S2

[sterile drum]

omg i didnt think of lumen to wake the guys up

[vocal leaf]

i replace mountain with bassline later, to bait boss global attack

[sterile drum]

what order does the boss tp to in p1 or is it random order

[turbid badge]

LAST depoyed

u wil.l see red dark mark under operator

[sterile drum]

oka so i got passed p1 but immidently died

[turbid badge]

and they will be tpd after

[sterile drum]

no where does the boss go

[turbid badge]

oh theres a orrder

[sterile drum]

idk

[turbid badge]

down right down left than that tile next to gnosis

[fierce ibex]

I think that's the one

[sterile drum]

ty

[worldly niche]

How do you properly use suzuran s3, is it like right before using your dps main skill

[tidal sedge]

Pretty much.

[worldly niche]

Alright

[sterile drum]

😭 i didnt kill boss fast enough p2

who else can i use other than execalter + SA to hit ball in middle thatll reach

[round yew]

reedic s2, surtr

[lusty basin]

surtr without res ignore is so sad ;_;

yet she's still a good ball whacker

[vocal leaf]

use aak, he should be good too, s1 or s3 to buff one of them

[sterile drum]

i tried aak... he keeps killing them haha

[foggy grove]

who is he killing lol

don't aak sa when his skill active do it before

[sterile drum]

oh 😅

should i leave SA pacing like this? its kinda nice he tp into healer range but

i was thinking to point aak at upper left corner to buff thorns or should i place him back on SA

ah nvm

[modern copper]

Ok chat now I do

For context I need to clear 3-8

Biggest problem is that skullshatterer ranged attacks demolish everything

Like the base guarders

And that's bad cus heal no good

[worldly niche]

Use a support unit if you can't beat it and it isn't a farm stage

[ocean ether]

just slap the ball... it isn that hard

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qt64LNuAPyQ

you can bruteforce it by just smacking the ball

[sterile drum]

Ah nw I beat the stage when i meant, ah nvm

I'm just tryna brute force s4 now haha

[ocean ether]

S5 is a stage that punishes you for thinking too much lol, if you just keep smacking the ball with your DPS you have an easier time than if you were to mald on some big brain strategy
The turret will clear the boss AND the annoying mobs. Only thing you really need to do is invert at 2nd purple song

[sterile drum]

Yeah I was usually spamming it but didn't know to place it to left SA hit it or execalter

But then when it was facing other direction placing it in the middle

Since the attempts before this SA was never facing like this but had some overlap where the ball wasn't in the way of them both hitting it

Since it body blocks the enemies

[ocean ether]

You maleded too hard on right side tbh

[sterile drum]

But yeah just tryna do s4 now while I wait for stam

[ocean ether]

blaze / mudrock or even mountain alone can handle entire right side if you are constantly smacking ball because turret will clear mobs

[sterile drum]

I could only borrow execalter and was more used to using him

But yeah im working on building blaze since I double down and bought her skin

[ocean ether]

could always just yolo with typhon S3

her S3 1 cycles P1 if it locks onto boss and there are no mobs to eat her damage

[sterile drum]

Yeah she really cool used her for another stage as support

[ocean ether]

P2 more annoying because you need to repo her behind the shield, but you can just smack the ball if lazy

[sterile drum]

SA + execalter worked for me and what I had available as support units so i just rolled with it

Thorns aak + ling summons carried outside lane for the most part for me

[ocean ether]

anything works tbh, so long as you have 3 DPS smacking the ball, you can get away with bruteforce

[sterile drum]

Yeah gavel was doing works

[vivid rain]

are you still stuck on that piss easy stage

[ocean ether]

gotta be more forgiving to newbies

[vivid rain]

being mean is the last barrier preventing me from straight up killing them irl

this is just like working in IT back in last summer

[modern copper]

Dear god

Oh and yes I still am

[summer copper]

this is optimised from a 7 3* squad
you can bring more shield just in case beagle died as beagle survived because of dodge chance spot heal gives
only for normal mode

[modern copper]

NORMAL MODE??

[summer copper]

ye

u cant expect to use that for emergency

kinda obvious ngl

[worldly niche]

@summer copper I read your bio.. do you have any low rarity setup and possibly a vid for zt ex 8

[summer copper]

the best I can do is 3 6*
kyo did better

[worldly niche]

I have e2 suzu mlynar virtuosa and kal, do you think those operators would be viable for the stage?

[summer copper]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yF5BL3p45xk
just go borrow an exalter

[worldly niche]

Wtf

Alright will do

[sharp sun]

Is just me or is ZT-S-3 CM too hard?

The Big Violin dudes are just way too tanky

[remote perch]

theres not much difference from normal
just do the same thing you did with normal

don't kill p1 until reflect dudes are dead and burst p2 right away to disable tune

[turbid badge]

chen iframes go hard

[latent anvil]

tablebroth pro

[ornate loom]

what is the best base layout?

[cursive basin]

i need help in zt-s-3 challenge mode

[tidal sedge]

What is killing you?

[cursive basin]

the problem boss too tough, the mob in the middle too manyy since i dont have blaze i use defender

kinda got stack

[indigo carbon]

support unit abuse?

[tidal sedge]

Can you not borrow a mob cleaner of choice?

[cursive basin]

in norma stage i did it one time

[indigo carbon]

it's okay to use support unit for one time stages

[cursive basin]

i had too use support which uh thorn\

many times

[vital arrow]

What is yato doing there

Bait?

[tidal sedge]

Tele bait I assume

[cursive basin]

for the swicting

ye

[normal heron]

what about ely

[vital arrow]

No texas or yato2?

[indigo carbon]

yato is the fast redeploy used in low end guide i think

[normal heron]

myrtle herself is enough for dp recover

[cursive basin]

i dont have them

[vital arrow]

Oof

[cursive basin]

extra dp

[tidal sedge]

They're several month old limiteds at this point

[indigo carbon]

not even red?

[normal heron]

not really needed tbh

[cursive basin]

uh about that still un lvl

[indigo carbon]

i mean, your yato is e0 lvl30, how could that be worst

[cursive basin]

that only best i got

fast redoply

[vital arrow]

Whats killing you

[normal heron]

if the mob is too crowded then borrow someone like Mlynar

[cursive basin]

thingy here i cant use alot for the that thingy to use boss attack too many mob

[indigo carbon]

mlynar getting tp like crazy then often killed

[cursive basin]

idk why it focus on switching even it like last or second put

[normal heron]

mlynar have taunt

so he will most likely get teleported when boss reach 50% of it's health

or maybe borrow Yalter

[cursive basin]

who is that

[vital arrow]

Wait are you trying to copy the afk guide

Without blaze

[normal heron]

yato alter

[ocean ether]

its S3 so its every 25% iirc

[cursive basin]

yes

[vital arrow]

Bru

[cursive basin]

this one? from left

[normal heron]

i have yalter p4 if you want to borrow

[cursive basin]

yes ples

[cursive basin]

what should i do

[normal heron]

done

i just set yalter on support unit

[normal heron]

well use someone who can do aoe damage and have high block count like Blaze

[vital arrow]

I dont think the problem is yato

The problem is theyre doing an afk strat

That has blaze as an aoe dps

[cursive basin]

my username what your username in game i already see it thanks

[vital arrow]

And replacing her with nearl

Who is a block1 ST dps

Show your whole roster, sorted by rarity

[normal heron]

most of your operator is like ST when off skill

[vital arrow]

Honestly just straight up borrow blaze

Or gavialt

[cursive basin]

okay ill will

[normal heron]

true

[vital arrow]

Like you can copy afk guide but like

Understand the role of each operator does there

[vital arrow]

Just borrow a blaze or gavialt

[normal heron]

i have gavialter if you want to borrow

but no mod btw

[cursive basin]

what the difference of y alter and gavi alter

who is gavi

[normal heron]

gavial

[vital arrow]

Gavial alter

[normal heron]

her

[cursive basin]

how to use y alter and gavi alter idk them

[vital arrow]

Oh boy

Just borrow gavialt alter

And replace blaze in the guide with her

[cursive basin]

ah

[vital arrow]

They basically do the same thing

[cursive basin]

thanks

[normal heron]

what is ntrk doing there again

[vital arrow]

Blaze replacement

They see some kind of laneholder

Actually shes not even on S1