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rich rune
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I agree. They're rockin'

latent halo
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ur specter will die

dark violet
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she got eaten a bit

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but I used ceobe aiming top left

latent anvil
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wtfart @elder flume you login

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real pro

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šŸ›

hasty heron
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so! 🫓

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how do i trivialize penumbra shipyard

rocky kelp
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idk names youll have to send pic

sterile delta
gilded chasm
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am i cooking

glass monolith
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Gladiiacheeseless ExuHyperStare

gilded chasm
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im trying surtr S1 for this

glass monolith
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Main part is sugarcoat final wave sending 4 giga spear chads on top

gilded chasm
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oh does gladia just pit them

glass monolith
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Gladiia + Ange S3 can hole like everything on bot (Or maybe with Ho'ol talent works too?)
Except maybe 1-2 enemies because Gladiia will sometimes kill small enemies between skill being ready HellaKek

gilded chasm
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omg it worked, my ifrit died for some reason, but mlynar saved my ass

glass monolith
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Teacup dragon inflict DoT which do like.... Infinite damage

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Like every 4 seconds it increased (x2, x3, x4, x5 original damage) and that shit lasts 20 seconds

crisp bolt
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what am I even attempting here? ReedBean

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we'll see if this cursed idea cooks or not for afk (I didn't have typhoon)

lapis hornet
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probably?

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this anni rly easy tbh

crisp bolt
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yeah the enemies are pretty weak

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I'm just worried about the one that eats your ops

lapis hornet
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I tried chungus but he didn't even finish loading when stage ended KalStare

crisp bolt
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also obligatory rat gaming

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not like any beyblades are reaching her when fiammetta is deleting them all

cunning river
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I've heard mixed things about her

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How good is she?

void terrace
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Wait

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Vivi can get 100 res

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With nightingale s3

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When her skill is up

cunning river
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That sounds pretty good

rocky kelp
void terrace
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She's not good

cunning river
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Why's she not good?

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Is she the next Passenger?

void terrace
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She falls behind in dmg and can't really tank either

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Hopefully

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Her module can easily fix her when it comes out

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She feels slightly undertuned at the momet

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Still usable but she needs just a little more of something to make her stand out

rocky kelp
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idk i think she can tank fine. its just that it takes her lik e50sec to become a 6star. and then her dmg isnt enough to pay off

void terrace
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She is a very all rounded but yeah

rocky kelp
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ive never had an issue with her tanking

void terrace
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It takes too long to pay off

void terrace
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And I'm at E2 80

cunning river
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So just an 6* average arts guard

void terrace
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Yeah

cunning river
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That is not Surtr

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Hmm

void terrace
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Average is the word

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Waifu tho

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Like if you build a team around her

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She can always work

void terrace
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She can tank it if her skill is up

rocky kelp
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laterally vivi hard counter

cunning river
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I have been in need of an arts guard that is not Mousse and also stays on the field more than Surtr

void terrace
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But keeping her skill up is the issue

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As long as she blocks the first hit

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She survives

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She has a surprising amount of defence

crisp bolt
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wow it was easy

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afk worked

void terrace
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Also I want to test out getting 100 res on nightingale

crisp bolt
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I just leaked the last trees at the end ReedBean

void terrace
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Even off skill she would have 70 res

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With nightingale s3

crisp bolt
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she'll still be taking damage

cunning river
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Hopefully I get Virtuosa before the banner ends, cause I've been getting railed by the gacha

crisp bolt
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minimum damage HellaHands

void terrace
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It would be a very funny solution to just nope an arts dealing boss

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Actually I saw her being tested against the sanguinanrch

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But nightingale wasn't used

spark sinew
pure pasture
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OK weird request here but when I get back home could someone maybe spot me on my annihilation run. I've been trying for weeks now and I just don't know what I'm doing wrong. I used a low level team before but now I'm using something totally different

spark sinew
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what anni?

e0 1 blaze does nothing here regardless though

rocky kelp
polar crane
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myrtle s2 Bnuuy

spark sinew
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i'd say with 2 vangs it's better than s1

pure pasture
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@spark sinew that was just a pic of the team blaze is e1 67

void terrace
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While nightingale s3 is active Vivi would have 80 res off skill

pure pasture
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@rocky kelp

void terrace
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And 100 plus res on skill

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Which is pretty busted

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Too bad there's not many big arts nuking bosses

spark sinew
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tanking arts based bosses is not hard though

void terrace
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Yeah that's the problem

spark sinew
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like why bother with 95 res

rocky kelp
void terrace
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It's a niche with no real threat

void terrace
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I mean her module could easily fix her

spark sinew
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what's there to fix though

void terrace
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Upping the chance on her talent to 30% or just giving it stacking sheilds

spark sinew
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the archetype itself is just flawed

void terrace
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And she would be pretty epic

void terrace
spark sinew
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the niche of dueling arts based enemies is pretty bad

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?

void terrace
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I like how Vivi has some defence and range too

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Like she feels too mixed

spark sinew
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explain to me how surtr removing the drawbacks of the archetype makes archetype good

void terrace
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I don't care for the archtype

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I just look at the uses of characters

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Vivi is a boss/elite dueller

spark sinew
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and yet you ping reply to this Bnuuy

void terrace
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Whether arts or not

glass monolith
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Lmao aciddrop

void terrace
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And she fails in her role due to rng sometime

void terrace
void terrace
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I think she could easily be pushed up a bunch. I've been testing her with aak and skadi as supports and aaks aspd buff gives her the consistency on the shield she needs

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To actually block off the dmg

spark sinew
void terrace
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We will have to wait for her module I guess

spark sinew
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if everyone went in levels like that blaze, you should just stomp it šŸ¤”

rocky kelp
# pure pasture <@1182484113177989154>

idk i feel like people normally have e2 before they do anni3. its pretty hard. If I were to do it with that team I would probably do something like this. but I dont think this can reach 400/400

void terrace
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I want to make her work better but

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I just don't know how T-T

spark sinew
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||ST specialists are just doomed, i'd say give up ||

pure pasture
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@rocky kelp the only e2 I have rn is typhon

void terrace
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I was astonished by the dedicatiob

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Apparently you can E2 horn with IS mats and chapter 3 alone

pure pasture
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Again lemme get home and then I can stream it on my pc

rocky kelp
pure pasture
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Why do I have a bad feeling this is gonna be one of those scenarios where my whole team needs to be e2

rocky kelp
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it definitely is not needed

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all you really need to guarantee 400 for your team is like a gg with s2

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or chalter

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or pozy

spark sinew
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it's not even close to needed
in fact i think this could've been cleared e1
with e2 sup you can easily clear 400 and then even go and clear rotating map

rocky kelp
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you could borrow and itd be free but im assuming you want auto

pure pasture
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Which I have neither of those op sadly. Since I'm f2p my chances to pull are rather limited

rocky kelp
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I was just talking about if you were to borrow

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you can always try to do it as is and it might work out

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horn e2 would also carry pretty hard if you dont care enough atm

wide sail
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typhon and horn e2 can kinda roll the current rotating anni

pure pasture
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Originally I was gonna use thorns as support but I'm open to other suggestions

spark sinew
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thorns ifrit mlynar or even SA would work

rocky kelp
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your issue will be the drones on the side typhon isnt on

pure pasture
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I've been trying to do a sa strat but I just can't get the timing down

rocky kelp
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are you looking at old guides or something?

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if you want that kind of strat you can just place mlynar in the center

pure pasture
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This is the vid I've been trying to use

rocky kelp
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ye thats 3 years old lol

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no need to use SA

pure pasture
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These are the only 6* I have on me atm so I'm pretty limited

rocky kelp
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so you had greythroat the entire time wtf

wide sail
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aa sniper hater

spark sinew
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and lap

pure pasture
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Well I replaced lap with blaze

wide sail
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clearly lvl 1 blaze clears

spark sinew
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btw why wouldn't you put typhon closer to the enemy spawn

wide sail
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wait nvm

spark sinew
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am i overestimating her

pure pasture
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I had Lappland on the team originally but then I scored blaze

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Thought she might be a better choice

rocky kelp
# spark sinew like instead of kroos here

you could use typhon furthur up or just right more ye,
i thought he had typhon e1 so I didnt think she could kill the tanky drones since she will target big dudes on ground instead

spark sinew
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i would cut a healer or a vang (or both)

pure pasture
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And if we're talking Greythroat she could replace kroos ig

spark sinew
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(also you might want to put default skills on typhon and blaze on s2 )

pure pasture
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What do u mean

spark sinew
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so you don't need to always swap those back

wide sail
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typhon sl7 lvl 30 does like 400 damage to crusher leader at max def ignore damn

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iguess u need mod

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to solo all crusher with typhon

rocky kelp
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he has horn so

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crushers die anyway pmuch

spark sinew
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he also has lap

pure pasture
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I thought I had them set to default anyway? Hang on lemme get home first this is hard to discuss over text for me

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I do better actually looking at the game the whole time

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Tbh I was hoping to get kal'tsit so I could have her as a lane holder but the game decided to give me a second typhon

rocky kelp
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overstocking on lane holders is a trap

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you already have mountain and blaze

spark sinew
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kal would be very useful but yeah

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i wouldn't pull for older chars at all, if you only pull for them because they're "good" (besides reed)

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future banners are much better and 3 of them are limiteds...

pure pasture
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Funny enough I have 5* reed

spark sinew
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i meant reed alter, that's my bad

pure pasture
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Oh ya no don't have her. Only alter I have is swire

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She was actually my first 6*. Started playing during the 4th anniversary. I just keep whiffing on my banners

wide sail
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no eyja reroll is tragic but it is what it is

pure pasture
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Mountain horn and typhon are probably my best pulls so far

pure pasture
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@spark sinew @rocky kelp ok finally home hopping on pc

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ill be in RI chat

cunning river
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Stage 9

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What is one shotting my units

glass monolith
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DOOT dudes stack ATK for first alpha strike. Purple music give them +150% ATK on top for lulz

cunning river
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DOOT?

glass monolith
cunning river
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I thought it was the shield guys that were doing it

glass monolith
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Well all elites have big damage during purple sound. But those dudes most likely to be "oneshot" cause with that stacking attack

tidal sedge
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Bruh new Anni was easy af

And this is coming from a strictly "no 6 star" account

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which Fiameta module is better?

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i assume the one where she doesnt need to hit blocked enemies to get a bonus? aka def ignore?

remote perch
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the one where her hp doesn't go lower than 50% from talent

lapis hornet
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it might be counterintuitive

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but the one with bonus dmg to blocked enemies is almost always better

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esp at mod lvl2+

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even when the other module is better it's not by much (at least on paper)

glass monolith
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O hey, they still do "all annihilation stages are up" thing SoraWow

cunning river
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Have never used my Franka tbh

dark violet
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she has a sweet "ignore all defense" talent

cunning river
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Probably cause there aren't actually many cases where you want an arts guard to hold a position for a long time

dark violet
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she's a fake arts guard, deals physical but can ignore defense

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so not affected by res

ancient hearth
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franka is ntrk but from the paleozoic age

tidal sedge
narrow patrol
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I’m

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Are they all e2?

tidal sedge
# narrow patrol Are they all e2?

Yeah they are. You only need 2 powerful operators though. First to deal with the swarms of enemies on Mid and second to kill the drones.

narrow patrol
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Hmm could be tough since my only e2 atm is cutter

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AVC’s a little over a month

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I’ll likely try@that once Arturia banner is done so I can grab Mlynar

tidal sedge
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You can still use multiple aoe like Shira+Ethan and maybe a fortress defender or centurion guard. If you have any kind of buffer then the drones shouldn't be hard either. Just make sure to bait the seeds if they're camping at the right side

narrow patrol
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I can easily murk drones as I got an archetto might try Ines gummy for holding bottom lane but uhh. What enemy factions in the new anni?

tidal sedge
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The wither sarkaz

narrow patrol
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Also no fortresses or centurions on my roster

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My roster is rather new

tidal sedge
narrow patrol
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Looks like imma need a yato alter with s3

scarlet fulcrum
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U can leak the transformed tree dw

tidal sedge
tidal sedge
scarlet fulcrum
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Regardless

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As long as u reach 400 kills

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U could leak all tress

tidal sedge
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Oh wait wtf? So they're literally just a distraction??

scarlet fulcrum
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They are not count towards kill number yes

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Thats how the annihilation work

narrow patrol
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Wait what

scarlet fulcrum
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So unless u are perfectionist u are fine to leak em, after 400 reached

tidal sedge
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I knew how annihilation works but I didn't think that the tree guys were extras.

Actually that reminds me of the Siesta annihilation were you could lose points from devices but still win cuz 400 kills

scarlet fulcrum
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For example smt like "driver" from drunkard ship on DH anni, tokens from IW anni, standby robot from dv anni, and more similar stuff

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They are not count towards kill counter

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Yeah deploy slot device also same

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Thats how annihilation works BagThumbsUp

vocal leaf
pastel juniper
grave thistle
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You can annihilate the trees using Lin

cunning river
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I learned today that Pozy is basically useless if there's more than one enemy in fromt of her

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scarlet fulcrum
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I thought s1 only clear

turbid badge
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me when typhon not s2

tidal sedge
scarlet fulcrum
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Quercus usage obviously based

cunning river
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Also guess Witch King can silence your units

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Not sure if any boss before could do it

turbid badge
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would disarm countv

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b

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?

cunning river
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Yeah I have no idea what I'm supposed to do

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Also guess he doesn't go through a gate, but you're on a timer, cause the stage just ended

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And I guess the silence is unremovable

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Greeeeeat

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Just great

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Literally what are you supposed to do

scarlet fulcrum
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U kill the thing attached to debuffed op

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Also boss very weak to ball machine, so just go pew pew with any fast atk ops

scarlet fulcrum
smoky halo
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he has the same atk as the DOS boss just break the chain

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oh its you Susge

cunning river
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Didn't even notice there was something attached to the operator

scarlet fulcrum
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Usually u should notice if there is different hp bar there

cunning river
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With how cluttered the UI gets, I can barely tell which operators or enemies are alive nowadays

scarlet fulcrum
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Just look atThe color

narrow patrol
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Thing is units with that digit on their faces can be attacked by others and freed

turbid badge
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feeling like raising some 5* dps for IS

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going to m3 teq

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base might be wreckt

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in the meantime

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caster tickets 5* are pretty hard to utilize

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maybe ill just use for harmonie

latent anvil
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Oooh nightmare

turbid badge
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i borrowed once never again

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jkRedOmegaLul

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nightmare s1 cope

latent anvil
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Ya teta pro use mine

turbid badge
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suppoer i have

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deepcola

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querci

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orchid

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euroka

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casterlok so deadge

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kugisaki 292 dalao

latent anvil
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No indra

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You rgab new red cery ops

turbid badge
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o

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no dimete

frigid kite
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Lancer still struggling?

peak cloak
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always has been

frigid kite
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Nah man i trust he will get good 1 day

ivory leaf
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Just got heavyrain

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She viable?

rocky kelp
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not really

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i mean anyone is to a degree

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but heavyrains whole purpose is kinda irrelevant

celest solstice
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would this do? I plan on having kaltsit bottom of virtuosa and mon3tr above myrtle

civic bear
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seems doable. u do have yato to fix leak

celest solstice
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Im so skeptical

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its fine to leak the spawns right?

latent monolith
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after 400 even if you die that's not an issue

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and like realistically ethan's existence invalidates all the spawns that aren't like the 30+ hitcount ones anyways

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if ethan is raised he can also bind

civic bear
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pudding is carrying those anyway

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dw

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try farming more dp

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virtousa not exactly doing much on s3 rn. she need to proc and even then is only 1 hit per sec

celest solstice
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OH MY GOD THE CLUTCH

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how should I do rest avenue RosThink

civic bear
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make all ur units in lines with the laser

celest solstice
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Opinions?

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for rest ave

cosmic thicket
# celest solstice Opinions?

penance main skill is S3 even in anni style maps
at least in rest ave she's pretty flexible because she gets normal SP even outside of laser
can drop gummy, i might prefer reed s3 but otherwise it looks ok, don't get trolled by the jumpscare slugs

celest solstice
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oops forgot to change

celest solstice
cosmic thicket
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just make sure u can laser everyone

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i would probably swap gummy for another single target medic to divert laser down, i guess lancet 2 works fine?

celest solstice
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Ill try it

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penance top mid or bottom?

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which one needs the heavy hit

cosmic thicket
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i don't remember

celest solstice
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boss goes through mid right? so I should place her there?

remote perch
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what boss

civic bear
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no boss

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unless u count the lady

cosmic thicket
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gertrude idr her pathing

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typhon kills her fast tho

celest solstice
cosmic thicket
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i don't know

celest solstice
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Ima do this instead, surely this is is afkable

shell arch
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ExeNaruhodo i thought it was just me

rough wedge
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Does Mylnar s2 target air?

cosmic thicket
cosmic thicket
glass monolith
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I can't even confirm if it lagged for me because i was not looking half anni FrankaWheeze

celest solstice
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I bet itll be fine

shell arch
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It lags only like at the end of the anni

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When there's three flying tower twats

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Spamming endless fidget spinner

celest solstice
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didnt get hurt

cosmic thicket
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the red ones she does

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i know this bc i used a max level mod3 lin

celest solstice
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typhon killed it

cosmic thicket
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oh lmao

celest solstice
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shes just there to soak up the suicide bombers

civic bear
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Is lin mod3

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Lvl 90

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If so it doesn't take dmg from the normal caster

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Only from the red caster

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Which is post 350 smth

celest solstice
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opinion?

celest solstice
civic bear
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Enough res then yeah

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Just heal with silence when she gets hit

celest solstice
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I already finished it tho

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Im moving onto rest ave

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wait eyja is bad in rest ave right? lots of res?

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meh Im sure itll be fine

civic bear
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Is fine

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U got yato 3 right

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S3

celest solstice
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s3

civic bear
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U just pop s3 when they line up regularly

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And they die eventually

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There's lots of standing still

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From them

celest solstice
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should I replace Penance and Mudrock pos

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I meant to place mudrock beside the first vanguard

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nah Ill do mudrock mid, so I can s3 bonk boss later

civic bear
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Penance u can put outside of laser technically

celest solstice
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Im trying to figure out how will I have both Eyja and Mlynar hitting top lane

void terrace
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Damn I really like how Vivi perfectly syncs up with aak

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I feel like she's gonna become my next lin

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Where i only use her just caus aak enables her SkadiDaijoubu

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She does pretty sick dmg with aak buff and on a very short cycle

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I am surprised how poorly she does against patriots phase 2

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Like she should be able to tank him but with one medic and aak she still loses too much hp

celest solstice
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RosThink Ive been doing this trying to figure out what to do

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FUCK I LEAKED

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170, probably top side

glass monolith
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HE LEAKED TELEPORT SLUG RedOmegaLul

celest solstice
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eyja and exu shouldve killed em

glass monolith
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Then how the fuck one leak blook 2 crab if you have 2 block 2 on top

civic bear
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its the slugs

celest solstice
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1 block 2 1 block 3*

civic bear
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they spawn instantly

celest solstice
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at 170???

civic bear
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i think ?

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should die tho

polar crane
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yato should handle it

civic bear
glass monolith
civic bear
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those gap when they spawn if u have unlucky skill not up

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they could just leak out

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it spawns from right to left

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so eyja would waste her skill on the right slugs

celest solstice
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I am sincerely considering on replacing exu with virtuosa

civic bear
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nah exu is fine

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just let myrtle

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on the left of exu

celest solstice
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for how long

civic bear
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keep farm that dp

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200 dp or smth

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this doesnt happen all the time

scarlet fulcrum
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I think the real pressure on top, bottom doesn't need that much

civic bear
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i think only once or twice total

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so if u pay attention is all ok

celest solstice
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I am like 90% sure, 10% on a slug on 170 which Im not sure even happens

scarlet fulcrum
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Slug on 15 seconds critical wounded state i think

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Saga talent

glass monolith
celest solstice
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ah

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Ill get virtuosa in

civic bear
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virtousa wouldnt change it

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cuz if it were saga

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exu shouldve hit it

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meaning exu couldnt

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so theres a lot of enemies influx at once

celest solstice
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no no no, I wanna slow em at least

scarlet fulcrum
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Oh yeah 2 block dude

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No influx means tanky

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So not killed in time then leak, i just realizes exu facing top, so yea maybe thats the problem, leak small fry bcause clay dude eating ur block long enough

scarlet fulcrum
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Top

celest solstice
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yeah virtuosa will do the trick I think

scarlet fulcrum
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So instead relying on flux for easy debuff, elemental damage instead?

celest solstice
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flux?

scarlet fulcrum
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Influx

celest bluff
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The laser

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Is this Rest Avenue annihilation

celest solstice
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I mean its not like I care that virtuosa wont get the laser

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alright I think virtuosa did the trickk

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got pass 170 without any problems

scarlet fulcrum
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Just yeah be careful with piper later, especially from front

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Ideally u reflect the laser to reflector there to cover rear, front can be like that or lined up to avoid caster ability

celest solstice
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yato shwing shwing

scarlet fulcrum
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I think u are fine with those ops tho

scarlet fulcrum
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Its fine, u can just kill em

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No need to wait

celest solstice
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nice I finished it, reedic kept almost dying so Silence helidrop was nice

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whats the strat for this that DOESNT use lappland cause I havent raised her, or any silencer op

scarlet fulcrum
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Kill on stair or camp, use cleaner for the front occasionally

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Also silence ability not just lapp

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But yeah its doable

scarlet fulcrum
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Mid

celest solstice
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wait would lappland e1 suffice???

scarlet fulcrum
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They will not spread slime if killed inside it, on inside redbox

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E1 lapp fine, some ppl did it with that. Tho not really perfect cause the duration and interval. But doable

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Since u have roomba to cover the miss

celest solstice
scarlet fulcrum
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Thats not the point, just e1 lapp thing u asked

celest solstice
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ah

scarlet fulcrum
#

But yeah silence not really mandatory, but gud thing to have here

celest solstice
#

wtf just happened

remote perch
#

you got fucked by the weeds

drowsy jewel
#

the floor happened

celest solstice
#

the afk was going fine

foggy grove
#

it's not fine if they are dying HellaKek
floor happened

glass monolith
#

Also there is creep spreader from top box around this time and if Typhon don't kill it inside red box it will spread

celest solstice
#

ah

glass monolith
#

Biggest cancer is bubble boiii, it spawn creep constantly unless silenced below 50% HP. And E1 Lapp don't have 100% uptime to prevent them from ever doing it

celest bluff
#

I just kill the tree anyway

scarlet fulcrum
#

The relevant wave only happen around twice iirc, so lappland uptime can be covered by roomba

#

top lantern guy also free kill most the time

#

No need copy pasta afk run with ur lv tbh

celest bluff
#

Last year I did that annihilation with e1 lapp

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Auto stable even

scarlet fulcrum
#

wow

versed arrow
glass monolith
#

Can't die to creep if you cheese hard enough

rocky kelp
#

the amount of times I have seen e1 lapp fail to silence an enemy properly is 0 times

#

0.2 window go crazy

glass monolith
#

To my luck 0.2 second window to F up is sure guranteed to happen RedOmegaLul

glass monolith
scarlet fulcrum
#

Just aboose stair

viscid mist
#

e1 level 1 civlight can do this to patriot

#

low level grind was never this easy

#

who needs e2 ops

#

3 cycles

rocky kelp
#

i mean

#

he only has like 40k hp right?

#

or was it 48k?

viscid mist
#

45k

#

45k hp is a lot tbh

#

🫔

rocky kelp
viscid mist
#

enemies with more hp than this will probably have low stats to boot so true damage becomes irrelevant

rocky kelp
#

well i mean. if she has masteries and stuff ig she could reach a reasonable amount of extra dmg

viscid mist
#

not really

#

i think the max is a little bellow 1100

#

e1 level 1 sl7 she already does 608

rocky kelp
#

how many balls hit per skill?

viscid mist
#

masteries do little to increase her dmg

#

1 min

#

29

#

seems to be one per second

#

last one cuts short

#

🫔

#

this for sl7

rocky kelp
#

so ye

#

thats pretty decent

#

basically 2 necrosis procs

#

for free when you use her for bind

viscid mist
#

she also has an atk buff so it makes very easy to kill dangerous enemies

#

perma bind, put something to hit the target, it will also deal extra dmg if in civlight's range

rocky kelp
#

tbh inspire kinda fell off

#

waiting for new arts op that does more than gg

celest bluff
#

Like skalter?

rocky kelp
#

skalter crutches healing more than inspire

#

ye my theresa is only e2 lv20 and she 2skills patriot with alot extra room too

dry stump
#

Any suggest ops to farm ZT-8?

remote perch
#

mlynar

dry stump
#

Good answer, but I need a specific strat

#

like seriously

scarlet fulcrum
#

Change melody to yellow when batter like guy appear, twice for this stage

river atlas
#

Why have u left their shields up

scarlet fulcrum
#

Because its on purple state, they will gain shield. Just change melody or brute force

glass monolith
#

Step 1. ????.Step 2. Orange. Step 3. More orange

glass monolith
#

All you need to win is switch music to orange when part 2 and 3 starts or DOOT dude on left will stun 10 seconds into blue box

scarlet fulcrum
#

Yes, but redo it (u leaked)

glass monolith
#

It is practice plan DocSmile

dry stump
#

can you see the practicing?

scarlet fulcrum
#

Oh wait banned word lmao

#

Yeah, nvm me then

#

I think mod could read that

latent halo
#

2 op ?

rich rune
vernal lion
#

just Ling

latent halo
#

well it works

latent halo
#

meh , ling is boring

rich rune
latent halo
marble nebula
#

can you hypothetically handle right side with arturia s3m3 only

#

while left side being handled by typhon

latent halo
#

arturia ?

#

iirc theres dmg reflection ?

marble nebula
#

well specifically said s3m3

#

because iirc the necrosis dmg doesnt dmg arturia

#

it will still be blocked by the shield

scarlet fulcrum
#

This shit for speedrun, will stay with 3 one

latent halo
#

reaper

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real

scarlet fulcrum
#

Ulpian angle real

latent halo
#

ulpian is earthshaker

scarlet fulcrum
#

Oh wait yea that one

latent halo
#

aka hammer archetype

scarlet fulcrum
#

Blunt weapon

latent halo
#

blunt , idk man

scarlet fulcrum
#

Yeah i got ur point

#

loopshooter like skill can be nice

sly pivot
#

ulpenis will be a loopshooter

#

🤫

glass monolith
scarlet fulcrum
#

Yeah thats just first try

#

Can be optimized

glass monolith
#

Oh you didn't knew where 4 dude go, BagThumbsUp

scarlet fulcrum
#

ik from brute force speedrun brainded

latent halo
#

mystic caster

sly pivot
#

🄹

latent halo
#

now u have eben and ulpian

#

as mystic caster

#

are u happy

slow field
#

What's the 'can't follow tempo' thingy of boss' phase 2 mean?

marble nebula
#

ulpian will become a new guard archetype

marble nebula
#

you cant use the device so

#

yah

slow field
#

Haven't there been enough branches of guard yet lol

#

No uh
This means stunned enemies take art dmg or sth?

marble nebula
scarlet fulcrum
#

Modless pluma detected, poverty problem

lost summit
#

Anything I need to worry about in later waves or is this gonna be good enough

scarlet fulcrum
#

Yeah u are set, only man eater later, ur ops fine tho

lost summit
#

Cool

#

Ty

scarlet fulcrum
#

Gavialt s2 also can camp them

lost summit
#

yeah that's what I have her on but not sure if there's a good spot for her yet, waveclear is good, haven't even used Lin skill so far

scarlet fulcrum
#

Gavialt beside eyjaberry face up, tho not really optimal since the cycle

spark sinew
#

i used sniper camping top

#

i think in current setup they would just eat hoshi?

lost summit
#

Oh is the top left where the maneater spawns?

scarlet fulcrum
#

marksman the best for them cause 0 def

#

They wont eat ur laner with those ops

spark sinew
#

do they stand in the middle forever?

lost summit
#

what wave they spawn

spark sinew
#

the only damage i see is fia

lost summit
spark sinew
#

i assumed your question was because you wanted to afk?

lost summit
#

Just looking for a consistent Autodeploy clear

spark sinew
#

because there's not much you can change with deploys in this comp

scarlet fulcrum
#

Thats not afk obviously

lost summit
#

I just want the first clear for autodeploy and the free orundum is all

spark sinew
#

eh, lin (maybe it's s1) and then fia + 2 defenders probably afk most annis

scarlet fulcrum
#

Thats not the point here

#

They just want clear

#

And skip with tickets

lost summit
#

My lin and Fia are both S3M3

forest vale
#

I need help

scarlet mortar
#

like +3s from optimum, not bad imo for a 2op

scarlet fulcrum
#

I used 5*

lost summit
scarlet fulcrum
#

For general content

scarlet mortar
#

saw a bunch of 6*s above so i just went for it

scarlet fulcrum
#

But your speedrun gud regardless

scarlet mortar
#

not yours

scarlet fulcrum
scarlet mortar
#

it's a funny farm stage SkadiDaijoubu

lost summit
#

My clear of that is probably molasses

scarlet fulcrum
lost summit
#

ty. My account has gotten to the point now where i'm kinda broken and most things are pretty easy as long as I use the right characters so

scarlet fulcrum
scarlet mortar
scarlet fulcrum
#

Noice

west path
#

Slow but funny

soft topaz
#

Need help Lungmen Downtown

foggy grove
#

so which part are you exactly struggling with that many e2

west path
#

With those ops there should be no problem

wide sail
#

leaking drones ?

heady sphinx
cosmic thicket
cedar hound
#

Double vg are waste of slot

#

Frd in anni, no

cosmic thicket
#

nah texalt in anni is fine

heady sphinx
cosmic thicket
#

if schwarz is just on drone duty put her on s2

lost summit
#

Drone duuuty

glass monolith
#

Drones are not dumb. They accepted that floor is Surtr

slow field
#

Anyone knows what the shooting interval of that funny canon in zt10 is?

glass monolith
#

Capped to 2 per second, sum up all damage taken by blackhole between shots and does it as physical

slow field
#

Ty bro

steel verge
#

holy shit its so close

celest bluff
#

That 700 dp ain't using itself

glass monolith
#

e2 Puzzle S1 Stainless S3 combo is 1dp per second. Moduled Merchant is 0.66 DP per second. And Dog boy... Exists i don't know his numbers CeobeConfused

neat skiff
#

As much as people like shitting on Vigil, all tacticians have pretty meh DP generation.

#

To the point Beanstalk is the only one who sees much use as a DP gen option. Blacknight is sleep stall and Muelsyse is "wait, she generates DP?".

glass monolith
#

I shit on him for his utility being linked to melee pet being alive while said pet has less stats of all pets and revives longer RedOmegaLul

neat skiff
#

The devs put WAY too much value on the wolf lives mechanic.

#

Ahh well, being the only male 6 star vanguard means he still finds a home in nicheknights.

glass monolith
#

Being bad to make it into "Not meta knights" SoraWow

primal fossil
#

Which skill i should M3 on Viviana?

polar crane
#

dont build her if you can

#

if you still willing to build her then s3

primal fossil
#

why shouldnt i do ?

polar crane
#

she's not good in the current meta

primal fossil
#

and virtuosa?

neat skiff
#

Viviana = S3.
Virtuosa = S3 >= S1 >>> S2.

#

For Virt it seems to be super common for S3M3 and that's it. My friend support list is full of them.

#

Viviana is a so-so duelist. She has the ability to deal lots of single target arts damage from behind a defender or a wall which helps her out a lot.

narrow patrol
#

So close!

#

I wonder if I would have held out better with perfumer e2 or@if I brought silence alongside perfumer

#

This is where I generally start to crumple

#

Ok I know the dp is overkill

spark sinew
#

use aoe sniper before that part

narrow patrol
#

Hmmmm that’ll be a little rough since I really only got pinecone and meteor as AoE snipers (and pinecone generally needs the enemy to be in her face for this)

spark sinew
#

retreat kroos

narrow patrol
#

Again I don’t have any AoE snipers that are raised

spark sinew
#

use meteor/jieyun/shirayuki/catapult

glass monolith
#

Break the meta. Ambriel S2 them FrankaWheeze

#

Also Meteorite, not Meteor

narrow patrol
#

Again I literally don’t have a proper AoE sniper

#

I do have shirayuki but not built and my resources are going to be invested in Mlynar as well as Ines E2

spark sinew
#

shira e1 is needed for the base anyway

narrow patrol
#

Was a good run for no borrows tho. Only cutter was e2 here too

spark sinew
#

just borrow and clear both anni 2 and 3

#

i assumed you had no e2

narrow patrol
#

lol

#

I do have but just cutter

#

Thing is I plan to burn my free@pulls first. If I get Mlynar I’ll e2 him right away (I am ready)

#

If he spooks me somehow in those free pulls I’ll get reedic

spark sinew
#

and that is related to not borrowing units...how

narrow patrol
#

I have a feeling having a mlynar@will let me cheese this

#

Given his bullshit S3

spark sinew
#

the chance to get mlynar is minuscule anyway

#

he's okay

#

as some people here would say

narrow patrol
#

Again I’ll just burn my free pulls first

#

Had a friend who got Mlynar from the selector and literally got a dupe on his next free pull

#

I could borrrow reedic….. hmmmm

spark sinew
#

you can just borrow anything and win

#

or literally e1 1 shira those casters

#

given that you need to e1 1 her if you want to play a game for longer than 4 months, probably (she should pay for herself by that time, due to your base producing more)

narrow patrol
#

What’s shirayukis e1 skill for base?

#

I’d really rather not burn lmd to e1 shirayuki til after I get some e2 six stars

#

Since that’s a REALLY expensive endeavor (all the way from e001 Mlynar and e160 Ines)

hasty heron
#

question

#

for frozen abandoned city annihilation....
how well does weedy s2 work here? if it works at all anyway

glass monolith
#

I know people use Shaw S2 to push shit off. Not sure if Weedy S2 works as well or need M3 to work

hasty heron
#

yeah i tried shaw there and it does work

latent halo
spark sinew
neat skiff
lethal dragon
#

Arturia it seem
Interesting take

neat skiff
#

Virt S2 is interesting for what it plays with and what it wants.

low wind
#

How to use Texasalt? I feel like I’m using her wrong because she always dies so quickly

neat skiff
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neat skiff
lethal dragon
#

The synergy with reed S3 is pretty cool

spark sinew
#

what's non traceable dot

lethal dragon
#

Like reed

spark sinew
#

like how do you differentiate

lethal dragon
#

Ugh

spark sinew
#

since she works with virt2

neat skiff
#

"Non-traceable" in that list are all fixed amount DoTs.

lethal dragon
#

I think it's based on atk% vs fixed

neat skiff
#

Meanwhile the ones she does work with are all based on the operators attack.

lethal dragon
#

Like ling is traceable because she has dot based on atk%

spark sinew
#

oh so like harmonie puddle as well

neat skiff
#

Harmonie puddle would not since it's a flat 250.

lethal dragon
#

I forgot what was harmonie's

neat skiff
#

3x3 tile of 250 damage each second.

lethal dragon
#

Oh right her s2

neat skiff
#

So, rule of thumb for damage over time. Fixed amount = no work with Virtuosa S2. atk% = work with Virt S2. I'm certain there are exceptions to the rule.

timid acorn
#

Harmonie triggers it

#

other examples are the nightmare effect you get from weedy S3 and Nightmare S2

lethal dragon
#

Well harmonie isn't a dot tbh

timid acorn
#

both trigger it

neat skiff
#

Ling, Reed alter and Spalter are not DoTs either.

spark sinew
#

i mean it's a damage over time

neat skiff
#

"fixed interval attacks" more than DoT.

spark sinew
#

although i do concede that usually people mean dot debuff when talking about it

lethal dragon
neat skiff
#

But who actually knows outside of testing each and every one.

lethal dragon
#

DoT is like inflecting someone and then letting him take DMG from that infection

#

What am I saying

#

Anyway

neat skiff
#

Which, if it's that distinction I wonder how Ascalon works.

lethal dragon
#

Ascalon should not work if theory is right

#

Wait oh

neat skiff
#

Yeah, it's very much a DoT but it doesn't snapshot.

spark sinew
#

i think we lost the initial message that lead to it

#

i don't see how virt s2>s3

#

or even >s1 but i didn't really use s1 so no arguing here

lethal dragon
#

Yeah it's very interesting take

narrow patrol
#

Guess the AoE did make the diff. No borrows too

neat skiff
#

If you have a bunch of ops that do a whole bunch of hits then S2 can stack necrosis the fastest.

narrow patrol
spark sinew
#

aoe sniper is the answer

narrow patrol
#

Came REALL close too

neat skiff
#

Like Exu or Archetto.

spark sinew
#

for those caster

#

back in the day

narrow patrol
#

Was able to drop Ines and Beagle back in as those giants were about to touch the undeployable panels and plug the@gap

#

Shirayuki saw more use@since archetto was busy helping gummy hold the upper lane

#

Her skill does bounce but it does heavy damage on the avengers. I usually use it once they’re low to ensure a kill

latent halo
glass monolith
#

Virtuosa and S3 last on priority to use? HellaKek
I think it was Viviana coping

neat skiff
#

Yeah, I'm not the biggest fan of S3.

latent halo
#

im a IS main

#

s2 is the skill i use most

lethal dragon
#

I found S1 more fun

#

Specially with skalter

#

Instant burst

neat skiff
#

Yeah, I have S1M3 and use it by far the most.

latent halo
#

virtuosa s2 and ethan s2 is what i do most in is4

spark sinew
#

i found it hard to justify picking virt at all

latent halo
#

crowl control

#

shes a starter

spark sinew
#

people draft the weirdest shit as starters istg

lethal dragon
#

@gray stone can you test ascalon dot with virtuosa s2

neat skiff
#

Virts biggest enemy is HP bloat.

latent halo
cyan gorge
#

I tried Virt start, then realized I liked Jess/Reed/Lin start more

neat skiff
#

The fixed 12k damage without someone like Eben or a necrosis primal caster to utilise it, it's very...

narrow patrol
#

Oh hey look who came in recruit

rocky kelp
#

i think shes fine in is

#

its not like their hp is that bloated

#

aoe arts is the king so why cant aoe true dmg work too

#

also with is buffs her s1 is a single skill to proc with s1m3 iirc

neat skiff
#

Even in main story with stat bloat. Though I would be fascinated to see Virt vs dzamati cluster since it's multiple people sharing a health pool, each with their own elemental hp bar.

spark sinew
#

i feel like you can treat eben/logos as primals for now certainly don't even try to cope diamante

#

he's so sad

neat skiff
#

They're basically primal casters that trade much higher damage for 20% less elemental damage%

narrow patrol
#

So uhh is May worth building?

neat skiff
#

May is a stun/slow sniper.

cyan gorge
#

Best 4* sniper

spark sinew
#

what happened with "i save for e2 6*" Bnuuy
may is alright

rocky kelp
spark sinew
#

e1 1 vermeil instead frankly

#

also you can go and do anni3 with your team i believe

narrow patrol
rocky kelp
#

shes worse than may by far anyway

narrow patrol
#

Looking for someone to pair with archetto. I do wanna upgrade from kroos….. eventually

spark sinew
#

i beg to differ, vermeil is miles more useful at the level i mentioned

rocky kelp
#

what chapter are you on?

narrow patrol
#

Still chapter 5. I’m not really progressing story as I’m farming Zt event like mad whenever I can for the devices….. and event money to clear shop

rocky kelp
#

ye I would just stick with cheeto

#

you wont need a 2nd aa after like ch5-6 anyway

#

like ever

narrow patrol
#

Sads

#

Archetto is a non negotiable mainstay

rocky kelp
#

only reasonable thing would maybe be if you have trouble right now with drones and didnt upgrade cliffheart, then you could upgrade may, and she will also be useful for ch9

narrow patrol
#

Cliffheart? I only got her skill to s4 so she could yank those armored enemies and avengers into the pit for ani2

spark sinew
#

do people use cliff vs drones a lot?

narrow patrol
#

Didn’t really level her up

rocky kelp
cyan gorge
narrow patrol
#

So yeah

spark sinew
#

...what was that you needed cliff for ch9

rocky kelp
#

levitate

narrow patrol
#

I’m assuming there’s a lot@of pits I can abuse

spark sinew
#

??

cyan gorge
#

Hoverboard stun I assume

rocky kelp
#

the enemies that levitate, they have highish def, and loose airborne when stun

narrow patrol
#

…. I see. I’m guessing that’s why I want may

#

For the stun

#

Wait you’re talking bout those dudes on the flying platforms right?

neat skiff
#

Why primals have low attack is a complete mystery to me.
Diamante = 643
Amiya caster = 682

Elemental burst numbers.
Diamante gets 75% to 482
Logos has 761 atk and his module does 60% so 457 but all 3 of his skills boost the attack.
Eben has an atk of 1550 and deals 30% for 465. But Eben has anywhere between 1-4 different buffs before his stacking charges.

narrow patrol
#

The ones that hit the ground and lose their backpacks once they get stunned or whatnot?

spark sinew
#

i feel like it's just new archetype 5* tax

#

it honestly feels like HG still just compensates for tequila and pluma

narrow patrol
#

I heard pluma@is crack

spark sinew
#

so our new arche 5* are gutted stat/kit wise

narrow patrol
#

Sigh

#

Meanwhile 4 stars seem to be in better shape. Heard caper is actually pretty great

spark sinew
#

eh...

#

caper is not bad, but for example verdant...

#

4* also receive units very slowly

neat skiff
#

3 star players be like.

spark sinew
#

good news, no powercreep at all!

hasty heron
#

good news

#

lappalter will be the 6* loopshooter

neat skiff
#

More sniper powercreep.

#

Guys get powercreep guards, girls get powercreep snipers.

rich rune
spark sinew
#

she's pretty frail in general, but s2 allows her to survive very well vs frail trash

latent halo
#

Archetto s2 insta pop Necro on multi enemy

neat skiff
#

La Pluma works best when you treat her like a Mountain who trades self regen for "heal on attack" and attacking up to 127 enemies at once.

neat skiff
#

It's why she was incredibly popular in CH13 since those blood spear pillar things kept her attacking and healing.

spark sinew
#

i can only get archetto on temp op
but noted

neat skiff
#

It was a joke about how "true AoE" is actually one less than 128 because computers.

#

Her module basically adds a bit more healing per attack and some attack when passive is fully stacked.

rich rune
latent halo
#

Actually

#

Let me try it

neat skiff
#

It's splash by default. No module needed.

#

It attacks everyone in range.

latent halo
#

I think arturia start + Ethan + archetto + qiubai draft will make a unique system for is4

neat skiff
#

E0L1 because it's their trait.

#

From 50 to 60.

rich rune
neat skiff
#

It attacks all enemies in range. Reapers only heal for each enemy hit up to their block count.

#

Worked that way since day 1 and if you have a reaper even at E0L1 you can see them dealing damage to 3+ enemies at once.

rich rune
#

Guess I was wrong

neat skiff
#

Take her into CH13 in a stage with the blood things. You can see her dealing damage to a lot of enemies per attack.

#

No module needed.

rich rune
neat skiff
#

One of few ops who can survive the londinium cannon.

#

And yeah, if he is facing enemies who don't hit hard he is basically an unkillable god. Face him against slow but hard hitters you're probably going to have a bad time.

spark sinew
#

they only gain hp up to block count

rich rune
neat skiff
#

Ehh, with defense bloat early on it's OP but as you progress it will eventually become a detriment. The same problem Jaye faces.

spark sinew
#

yeah i feel like it wouldn't help them much

#

they only do much damage vs trash (ignore executor, he also heals a ton anyway), and they kill it fast enough to not need better healing

neat skiff
#

Plus, right now you can find a balance where they act as a self healing defender because they heal more damage than they take, but don't deal enough damage to do it without help.

rich rune
#

And for a crusher module, I'm really hoping that it gives them some sort of shield they can sustain.

#

It balances the lack of defensive stats.

neat skiff
#

I'm kind of curious about earthshakers tbh.

#

"Oh cool, it's like a crusher but not awful"

#

Meanwhile people try to make crushers laneholders when they're more like dreadnaughts that trade their paper thin defenses for the ability to attack 2 at once.

rich rune
#

I'm excited for Aroma, the new blast caster. Mostly because that levitate means Ho'olheyak synergy. And Cutter too.

neat skiff
#

It's weird. The devs know what they're doing with crushers way more than blast casters.

rich rune
neat skiff
#

Ifrit has so many things to make her work it's kind of bonkers.

#

Res shred, fast SP generation, atk_scale on S2 and S3, def shred on S2, even more res shred on S3.

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Corroserum has none of that to the point of having a self stun on his damage skill.
Aroma levitate being tied to her talent at least means other ops can help meet the conditions on her skills more than once.

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Though Ho'ol S2 could be rather fun since Aroma deals like 2k arts damage when levitate runs out with her S2 active and Ho'ol S2 is basically instant.

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Ho'ol levitate is 1 second.

glass monolith
neat skiff
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22 is a nice rest spot before the increase of 23 (ChongYue event) and then 24 being Eyja alter event (with boss) and 24 being Muelsyse event with a whole host of tanky enemies.

narrow patrol
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Ouch

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I was NOT EXPECTING THE CROSSBOWS

neat skiff
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Yeah, anni 3 is a definite hurdle.

narrow patrol
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I think I’ll revisit it once I upgraded@my@healers@more

neat skiff
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3 lanes to defend + crossbows = pain.

narrow patrol
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And have a few e2’s

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I keep having my healers die

spark sinew
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or borrow something good

narrow patrol
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From the crossbows as they’re usually healing someone else

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I did I had a penance on loan to solo one of the lanes

spark sinew
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healers shouldn't die since you can block the bolts for them

narrow patrol
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Penance never died through the thing

neat skiff
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Yeah, bolts hit the first ally unit thing then stop.

spark sinew
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that's like the worst lane to use penance on although she kinda sucks on this anni anyway

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pre 300 basically nothing scary goes top

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after that you might get a crusher at most

narrow patrol
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The arts master murked my crew

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Maybe I should have brought more anti air

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The giant arts master

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Also.. that was a LOT of bomb tails

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0_0

neat skiff
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Yeah, arts drone will joyfully murderise anything it can get its laser on.

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Anni 3 is a hurdle.

narrow patrol
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Honestly surprised I made it to 300

neat skiff
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300 is good.

narrow patrol
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I died shortly after due to that@giant purple drone murdering everyone after archetto bit it to a crossbow bolt

spark sinew
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you can bait bombtails

neat skiff
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Your next barrier will be somewhere around 350.

narrow patrol
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I was not expecting the bombtails tbh

spark sinew
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gravel actually would help with both

narrow patrol
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If I kneww I’d have brought gravel to tank em

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I was literally@going in blind

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Also

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I need Ines e2

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For the invisibility detection

spark sinew
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wouldn't really help here

narrow patrol
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Hmmm

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Silverash?

spark sinew
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just block them...

narrow patrol
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Like borrow him and have him as one of the guys@holding mid?

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A LOT of invisible enemies go mid

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I think it was the bomb tail wave that messed me up

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I was think g oh just a bunch’s moons not@too bad (crossbows show up)

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Of course they’d show up (waves of drones start spawning)

spark sinew
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yeah you just block them and kill them that way

narrow patrol
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It was the bombtail wave that messed me

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That’s why I had no aa

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Also I take to it casters won’t be that needed here so I could probably@go with Kroos instead

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May@might help but…. She isn’t gonna take those shots well

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For a sniper (which in general tend to be glass to begin with) she’s even worse in that department so can’t take return fire at all

neat skiff
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Annis 3, 5, 6, 7, and 14 are all pretty painful in their own ways.

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1 - Chernobog
2 - lungmen outskirts
3 - lungmen downtown
4 - grand knight territory outskirts
5 - frozen abandoned city
6 - abandoned mine
7 - flooded seashore
8 - watery tidehollow
9 - long spring wastes
10 - dossoles water gate
11 - south prison
12 - county hillock countryside
13 - night champion show
14 - lingering shangshu trails
15 - chocolate street
16 - penumbra shipyard
17 - research base hanger
18 - lungmen commercial street
19 - pausenstraße
20 - ashy marsh
21 - special little aquapit
22 - decaying wastes
23 - mountain-ringed border town
24 - new hotel avenue
25 - eccentricity lab
26 - burning district
27 - icebound valley
28 - cityway 66
29 - paddy fields
30 - kurfürstenplatz
31 - grand bazaar

narrow patrol
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Pain

neat skiff
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The last 3 are translations from CN.

glass monolith
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Back when i started there was only 9 FiaDed

neat skiff
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Same.

narrow patrol
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Also realized late I lost both dp generators so I ran out of cash to deploy DX

spark sinew
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oh the 14 is considered "bad"?

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back when you started there were only 2

neat skiff
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14 spams high level red enemies.

narrow patrol
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I’m going to want a full e2 team ain’t I?

neat skiff
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Then because you have 2 teams (1 for enemies, 1 for token clean up) those spammed red enemies can wreak havoc.

spark sinew
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anni 3 is perfectly clearable with 1 e2 borrow

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but you do need strong ish aa

narrow patrol
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I have a feeling if I had my units leveled up more they may have been able to eat that better

spark sinew
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at e1