strategy

[vernal lion]

back again, you did say Ash won't have the mod that will give her more stun on s2, now there it is

[glass monolith]

Blame her S2 be repeat talent

[vernal lion]

so again, anything is possible, because if you play the game long enough, you will understand what it is lacking

at least HG knows how to balance to not make old op look sucked

[deft badger]

i like old ops more then new xD

[vernal lion]

I still use old op

[spark sinew]

are we playing the same game

[vernal lion]

same game, yes
same style, no

and my style is multi different strats

nuke, afk, 1p, etc...

I can play

[celest bluff]

How old is Rosa (I mean gameplay)

[vernal lion]

just I like how to play it myself

[spark sinew]

clearly

[vernal lion]

she is old enough that now she gets the mod that will ignore 60% def as physical dmg

for enemy with 3 and higher weight I mean

[rich rune]

I just use Weedy and Ange and shiftknights my way through.

Bc I don't have Rosa

[vernal lion]

and then they coded them unable to be pushed

[spark sinew]

got her late into her career i see

[celest bluff]

Solid pick for IS tho

[spark sinew]

oh?

[vernal lion]

game code

[celest bluff]

The sheep?

[vernal lion]

yes

[rich rune]

Fuck it, I'm still balling when Weedy s3 wipes out an entire crowd of enemies to make it easier to single out the boss.

[vernal lion]

push this

[rich rune]

And bully Crownslayer.

[celest bluff]

Last time I touched weedy is Lone Trail

The light saber guys

They lose hp when get shifted

[rich rune]

I love shiftknights, so I know exactly how to use her to the fullest.

[vernal lion]

I like how they give them that weakness

[deft badger]

can weedy s2 push that guys?

[vernal lion]

yes ofc

[rich rune]

With Ange s3 Weedy can shift him further.

[celest bluff]

Did people clear lone trail S stage with 2 op (yes I talking about the executor alter duo)

[scarlet mortar]

she should push the dude but not by much

[rich rune]

And if you use Weedy s3, you can get some delicious true damage.

[scarlet mortar]

S-4?

[vernal lion]

2.14 tile is still good enough

[deft badger]

whats with that fat guys spawning ed1 left side?

searching but i cant find them xD

[celest bluff]

Yeah

[scarlet mortar]

bare minimum for general squad's 3op

much less executor duo

those mechs are fat

[vernal lion]

shielder or guerilla

[scarlet mortar]

if you want executor trio though

[vernal lion]

but whatever, they are same as weight 4

the cannon can push because it's force 4

anyway, the benefit of having a fuck ton of hp seal

I don't even care to block and kill the mob

[deft badger]

don't know sometimes i don't leak and sometimes its just a mess

[vernal lion]

ok about the run with 5 star prio squad yesterday, I like how game really gives me all niche op which is also the one I didn't promote them fully

[rich rune]

That was just spiteful.

Never have I seen RNG that bad.

[deft badger]

everything till 15 is a walk in the park anyway

up to 14 exe can handle left sinde on his own

15 as well but u have to be careful with skill activation

its more a me problem that i am brain afk sometimes

[rich rune]

One time I got stuck with no melee ops in IS3 and made it to floor three.

[vernal lion]

I honestly like to pick Exe, but then you want the relic that give atk and aspd buff, in exchange your unit losing 25hp per sec

tbh I could just solve that with Perfumer

[spark sinew]

or just let him hit an enemy

[rich rune]

Lately I've just been going back and doing all the challenge modes in story stages. And some were a lot easier than I expected, while others were absolute torture. 9-10 comes to mind.

[vernal lion]

imagine enemy doesn't rush

[deft badger]

me problem xD

[vernal lion]

smh

I almost did it with duo Texas Yato

[scarlet mortar]

funny stage

[vernal lion]

it's really cool stage

[turbid badge]

aecond skin eats

[dark violet]

this medal gives me ptsd

let's hope this works

[vernal lion]

the medal is easy to get tho, unless you abuse true dmg

[turbid badge]

whay os franka chance to ignore at mod 3 m3?

[vernal lion]

28%

s2 always gives x2.5

so is 70%

[dark violet]

wym easy

he didn't die

[turbid badge]

moght raise tbh

[dark violet]

it's legit hard to not kill him

ceobe just destroys him regardless, ntr too

[vernal lion]

is that phase 2?

[dark violet]

yeah

[vernal lion]

just let the vent kill him

[turbid badge]

franka > ntr

[dark violet]

that's... what I'm doing

I'm struggling to not kill him

[vernal lion]

you still have him last 2 check points

before he completely leave

[dark violet]

thankfully I was smart and used SA

gotcha

his true calling

last time I activated the skill too fast and he instantly killed the boss

[vernal lion]

actually, the condition truly means "beating him while having him under the vent dmg debuff"

[dark violet]

what

[polar crane]

yes, what naga said

[dark violet]

it was this easy all along?

[heady sphinx]

the medal is kill him while he has the debuff from vent, not kill him with vent

[vernal lion]

[polar crane]

yes

[dark violet]

I thought you had to kill him with vents only

[heady sphinx]

mistranslation

[polar crane]

yostar mistranslation moment

[vernal lion]

Yostar moment

[polar crane]

classic from then

[dark violet]

I mean, still did it but yeah

[polar crane]

[dark violet]

awkward

she's scared I'm going to deep fry her too

out of the fire and into the oven

[astral cosmos]

hah beehunter still came in clutch for EX 8
i love beehunter

[dark violet]

time to do CM and abuse the boss with ceobe

she just kills a phase without vents

[vernal lion]

timing your vent better

[dark violet]

don't really need the vents

[polar crane]

vent better

[dark violet]

I just realized I had SA act as stainless

more frequent skills, huh, should be pretty easy then

[deft badger]

missing this one..

[spark sinew]

rarity abuser caught red handed

[dark violet]

at least with these medals, we sure will engage with the mechanic

[scarlet mortar]

i had dusk tap at it for the entire stage

[deft badger]

yeah yeah i will engage with the mechanic...

[scarlet mortar]

[spark sinew]

yeah it's not a terrible one like UT

[dark violet]

also

once again dorothy mines love this

[vernal lion]

cm cliff is 3k def and 70 res

[dark violet]

ceobe field day

[scarlet mortar]

enemyknights getting kinda owned ngl

as if phase 1 cliff doesn't already hit like a truck

[dark violet]

could they give 3K extra def to the boss?

[vernal lion]

yes it's 3k phase 1

[scarlet mortar]

2.5k no

[vernal lion]

20% buff from cm

[scarlet mortar]

yh ok

[vernal lion]

keep in mind that boss will have like 78k hp

[scarlet mortar]

bro makes patriot look like a random heavy defender

[vernal lion]

back in the old day, Bloodknight is the 2nd boss with highest DPH

it's 2200 (2620 in cm)

[somber stone]

Frostnova infinite dph with black ice real

[deft badger]

and i got the medal buy letting her cycle one skill on a vent

[dark violet]

huh, 3K def is smaller than I expected

does he get more def on second phase?

[glass monolith]

Maybe

[dark violet]

I hope he does

my ceobe trigger finger is itching

[somber stone]

Average ceobe user

[vernal lion]

you do know about 70 res, right?

[dark violet]

yes

he still melted with offskill ceobe

[glass monolith]

Since when mechanics which hurt us stoped us?

[dark violet]

ceobe ignores some res and deals extra from def, res is a social construct

embrace wild doggo

[vernal lion]

yea, ignore 10 res

40% dmg is still high enough for arts dmg

[dark violet]

her s2 completely ignores res by increasing aspd instead of damage

[glass monolith]

Imagine whoever designs CMs at HG gets high and add +20 RES to every single CM

[dark violet]

add 2K def pls

[heady sphinx]

1k bonus def

[dark violet]

yeees

[glass monolith]

There was funny CM in chongus event which added over 100% DEF to highest DEF enemy car, Ceobe took like 4 attacks, 1 per each wheel

[vernal lion]

it's totally about playing right

they have like 3k def or smth

all physical dmg is useless

[dark violet]

can't wait for a 10K def boss

[vernal lion]

yes, and 90 res too

[somber stone]

Def buffer when

[dark violet]

time to bring out ifrit and ceobe for a wild combo

[vernal lion]

Thirster

[dark violet]

time to bring out NTR for this one

[somber stone]

Saria

[glass monolith]

I knew day would come when e2 Haze would be useful

[dark violet]

Imagine using saria

[vernal lion]

you may love this one

[somber stone]

Tf is that

[cosmic thicket]

is that an RA boss

[dark violet]

mmh, seems fine

[somber stone]

Omg lashmak

[vernal lion]

it's Kharan

[dark violet]

never forget

[cosmic thicket]

who's kharan

[spark sinew]

yeah ah just tanks it

[dark violet]

not just AH, it's dollkeeper switch invul that memes on the skill

[dark violet]

all the hits whiff

[cosmic thicket]

oh is4 ending 4

[dark violet]

the boss barely lasted half of ceobe's s2

[vernal lion]

ofc, with all those buffs

[dark violet]

skalter buff, which is nice yeah

[astral cosmos]

now I'm wondering if I can manage EX 8 if my best dps is aciddrop

[dark violet]

it'll be fine

[spark sinew]

simply borrow typhon or something

[dark violet]

believe in yourself

[astral cosmos]

nah

wanna clear it with my squad only now

[dark violet]

yeah, borrowing isn't as fun when there's enough roster to clear things alone

[spark sinew]

did you see his roster

[astral cosmos]

[dark violet]

did he show it?

[spark sinew]

i mean surely it clears but

[dark violet]

[spark sinew]

idk if it will be fun

[astral cosmos]

(gonna take some time to figure out)

beehunter will carry trust

[dark violet]

oh ok, you have beehunter

easy

[astral cosmos]

now gotta see how to deal with the rest

and if I somehow manage to tank cliff

[spark sinew]

why tank him

[astral cosmos]

when I can just leak him

(it's either I tank him or I die)

[dark violet]

good will regardless

I should go now, get ready for the next event in a while

[astral cosmos]

surely this works

[spark sinew]

oh it's worse than i thought

[somber stone]

Folonic does damage

Also why does it autocorrect to colonic

[astral cosmos]

lmao aight I already see the issue
left side is gonna be a pain in the ass

[dark violet]

tsukinogi and 9deer

[astral cosmos]

maybe I should give up on CM for now

[spark sinew]

beehunter but not on dodge skill i think

just believe and dodge everything

[astral cosmos]

I tried back in CV-8

miserably failed

I need her for the vents

[spark sinew]

no ethan?

[astral cosmos]

nop

[spark sinew]

ngl e1 ethan is probably better for ex, at least he won't need healing

[deft badger]

playing low stars on purpose?

[astral cosmos]

that's my niche yh

[glass monolith]

Ethan can poison thingy so wallmart charging device

[astral cosmos]

I could use aosta

but realistically I only need 1 vent

only issue rn is figuring out how to manage left side...

[deft badger]

who is actually the highest dmg dealing low star in the game, range btw

[spark sinew]

what's low star to you

[astral cosmos]

define low star

[deft badger]

under 6

[somber stone]

Define target

[deft badger]

single

[spark sinew]

rockrock maybe

[somber stone]

Amiya s3 on 100% dr trust

[spark sinew]

kristen with true damage dr be like

[somber stone]

[deft badger]

melee tequila?

[spark sinew]

st? doubt

if we go with multitarget it's pluma on 100500 enemies in range

[somber stone]

Hear me out, shamare

[astral cosmos]

hear me out, Morgan
(lies)

[deft badger]

can i borrow ur noir?

[spark sinew]

only s2m3

[deft badger]

which one is the jump skill?

[spark sinew]

s2

[deft badger]

let me try

[spark sinew]

go add me

[deft badger]

add me don't wanna search in the chat history again to find ur ingame name 😄

[spark sinew]

i'm literally the only Hauckindu

[deft badger]

lets see

done..

[spark sinew]

s2 is so so, just in case
but see for yourself

[turbid badge]

u have friends?

did u do a spring cleaning

[spark sinew]

no

it was actually super hard to find a spot

[astral cosmos]

goddammit why must beehunter be made of paper
she needs two medics

[turbid badge]

i thought they were gonna add slots

[spark sinew]

but it's ok, i can always boot UnknownM

[astral cosmos]

beehunter is ruining my entire strategy lmao

she just won't survive with only one medic up her ass
she needs two and I don't have the deployment slots

[deft badger]

yeah yeah always me

[spark sinew]

you want it

you always say it

[astral cosmos]

damn almost

alright normally this should work
I want to take out ncd but

[turbid badge]

games

[deft badger]

this year looks already now like pain and like u are going to use up all ur pulls 🫡
Hoederer no
Virtuosa yes++
Degenbrecher yes+++
Ray yes
Shu yes
Zuo Le yes++
Ela yes++

[spark sinew]

why is virtuosa the same tier as ela

and above shu

wtf

[deft badger]

that's my personal list for pulling

didn't say u got to like it

[astral cosmos]

hilarious how for me it's
Hoederer yes+++++++
Virtuosa no
Degenbrecher no
Ray no
Shu no
Zuo Le no
Ela no

[spark sinew]

too bad it's a wrong one

unlike rechord's for example

[deft badger]

shu looks like a op thats just going to confuse me...

did watch a skill review like 10 times and i still confused what she does

[rich rune]

Just guess and check.

[spark sinew]

even if you just use her as "shit my ops are dying, lemme use s3"

she's very strong

i know because that's how i used her

[deft badger]

others are strait forward, easy to use for me so that are my priorities
btw its not like i am not going to pull on all of them

[rich rune]

I'm going all in on the R6 events.

[deft badger]

did actually hope there will be more to skip on -.-

beside hoederer they are all worth pulling for

jessica as well not worth, but was free 2 pulls got her

[spark sinew]

?

[rich rune]

As a crusher enthusiast I beg to differ

[astral cosmos]

i love crushers
all the rest are mid

[spark sinew]

name checks out

[deft badger]

i mean he is cool, stupid amounts of cc, unbeatable vs slow attacking targets
for sure fun to watch him solo a golem

[spark sinew]

ela is not really straightforward

ray might be harder than shu, depending

[rich rune]

Waiting for that lord module.

[spark sinew]

virtuosa as well

[deft badger]

welcome to the dark side

its not like u can fail much at ela or virtuosa with that range of her skill

[rich rune]

I hope it's a range increase and decreases the attack interval of ranged attacks.

It'd fix frostleaf and make lappy even more busted.

[deft badger]

don't care whats it going to be, just make thorns a s+ op again 😄

[tidal sedge]

They aren't going to do that

The old laneholders being outmoded is very intentional imo due to how boring they played

Most contemporary ones have manual skills

[deft badger]

this doesn't look that hard... xD

[spark sinew]

you're looking at trash tier map

that gets soloed by anything nowadays

(exaggerating a bit yeah)

speaking of thorns though, stuff like Blaze got some amazing modules

[deft badger]

how does she hit the shield dude nearly for the same dmg like the little guys

don't they have like much higher def

[spark sinew]

so who knows (and yeah, even then, it just made her worth using in afk stuff)

[deft badger]

btw while u have been gone again i made it

works just fine with 6 stars only

[spark sinew]

yeah i saw how you reroll for 6* starter for hours

[deft badger]

hahahaha

that was past week i guess at 1-2am at night took me like 50-60min to get executor

[spark sinew]

wow

[deft badger]

i can't do without him..

[tidal sedge]

I can see him getting a good module, but I don't see it making him as good as he used to be.

[spark sinew]

oh, definitely

no aoe already kinda guts him nowadays

[deft badger]

i still can't win on that stupid laser map

and i don't know what i am doing wrong

that guys with the violines just destory me and i don't even get it how

how do i counter that

beside let it atk a op that isn't connected

[latent halo]

He will follow your net and hunt you

Just take better draft like surtr eyja and shit

[deft badger]

well i got how they are doing it, did 1 hit like 5 of my ops with one atk xD

[latent halo]

Helidrop burst

Or outrange it with Typhon

[deft badger]

i did have mlynar with me, could have let him take the shots but i didn't have much space to work with because just perfumer

[spark sinew]

mly usually holds the mid i think?

"holds"

[novel pivot]

Do cv shielders have more stats the more energy they have

Wdf

[jovial nest]

hmmmm, interesting.

thank goodness Ya2 S2 exists

[deft badger]

s1

[glass monolith]

It is mistranslated - It is During vent debuff

[jovial nest]

oh

it doesn't have to be the burn itself?

cool

tat makes it easier

[jovial nest]

And thanks for this

[deft badger]

don't try that on ex

she is going to die XD

[jovial nest]

lulz

[deft badger]

or u place mlynar back there and clap them on spawn

https://youtu.be/6J4rXCtVrpg

btw does ines count as range?

[glass monolith]

She is melee for sake of IS relics if you ask that

Just with ability to do ranged attacks

[deft badger]

ok boss

[jovial nest]

this trim made the boss fight a lot harder than it should be

made for some not-so flexible timings on when to kill boss

[dark tinsel]

Yo guys, im new to the game, Ive been playing for like 3 months. I wanna ask you a question:

Is it good to level Texas and go with Myrtle and Texas as vanguards? I dont have any 6* vanguards

[jovial nest]

you are gonna have some bad first waves

Texas ain't exactly the best laner

she's closer to utility due to her good stun

and flagbearers like Myrtle won't help fight dogs either

show your VG operators

all of em

[remote perch]

she's fine for early chapters since early wave are normally just dogs

[jovial nest]

you don't raise ops for EARLY chapters

you raise ops for all purpose

Myrtle is a good VG to raise

but your other VG shouldn't be Texas

is all i'm saying

[remote perch]

damn
so we shouldn't build 3* stars now since they're for early chapters

i see i see

[dark tinsel]

Yeah that is exactly the problem, I have bad starts untill i can deploy my good operators

[jovial nest]

dude early chapters can be cleared by 3 raised ops

and an army of lvl 1s

[dark tinsel]

Im going to screenshoott my VGs, gimme a sec

[remote perch]

buy courier in the credit shop

tankier vg

[jovial nest]

yeah I'm checking if he has Courier right now

i'm waiting screenshot

that's gonna be a solid tanky blocker until they print enough for their actual DPS

[south bone]

Croissant dodge gaming

[jovial nest]

dude,

lvl fang to 55

and you're good to go imo

you've already raised her to e1 40

Fang Myrtle will be your VGs

it's only a special case when you have to use 2 immediate blockers so early in the map

those are too rare to need to raise another VG

but if you want to raise someone else, Scavenger is also a good pick. But courier is also like a tankier Fang

also is your Myrtle S1M3?

that can accelerate your DP issues at start

4* masteries are cheap

[dark tinsel]

Well, if Fang is ok, i think I will just level her to 55

[jovial nest]

yeah its the least investment with good impact

[dark tinsel]

I have Myrtle's S1 mastery in lvl1

[jovial nest]

have you finished your masteries of your DPS ops?

[dark tinsel]

This are the rest of my operators, idk if im going good or Im messing something

[dark tinsel]

Not yet, I have Exu S3 M2 and Typhon S2/S3 lvl 2

[jovial nest]

damn...modules aren't cheap...well those might be mod1...

[jovial nest]

ok so.

here's another tip

whoever's on your main squad

your main team

they should at least be

skill level 7

skill levels carry harder than more ops levels

or modules

[scarlet fulcrum]

imo save ur pulls for gud banners

[jovial nest]

also yeah E2 40 is fine to stop on

[dark tinsel]

Yup, I have all of them skill lvl 7 (the ones of my main squad ofc)

[jovial nest]

and raise someone else to that level (should be a main squad candidate)

oh

you said Tyhpon S2 S3 lvl 2

i thought skill level 2

[dark tinsel]

Im actually saving for Virtuossa banner, i have 90 pulls atm

[jovial nest]

you meant M2?

Prio Typhon S2M3

[dark tinsel]

Oh, yeah, I meant that hahaha

[scarlet fulcrum]

Gud luck ig, tho degen more worthy for u

[jovial nest]

also another reason capping some 3* is nice. It gives them a talent iirc? Or an upgrade of their talent?

i forgot

but e1 55 Fang has DP cost -1

makes her cheaper

and 1 DP less means more DP for others

[dark tinsel]

I have Fang skill at lvl 1 🤣

[jovial nest]

yikes

well

you know what to do

[dark tinsel]

Doesnt really matter, i have enough materials to get her the lvl 7

Well, ty so much for your tips guys

Im actually stucked at 9-19, wish I can get it soon hahaaha

[remote perch]

just borrow a ling for 9-19

[jovial nest]

Btw that's a good tip from Vitch a post earlier

You have E2s

don't be too prideful in not borrowing

if you don't have to farm a map, borrow somebody

you got a good list of friends with strong ops to borrow?

#friend-id if not go here

[remote perch]

https://youtu.be/-g8RqZDD8mc?si=5cDJ_rn9-I1vua5b

[jovial nest]

don't spoil too much...

[remote perch]

not that hard to follow and you already have myrtle anyway

[dark tinsel]

Oh, yes, i try not to borrow operators so i can auto deploy to farm some materials, but when i need to i borrow some

I have actually friends in the list with good operators. One has Ling indeed

So I think im gonna try the video @remote perch , thank you ^^

[remote perch]

its fine to follow on stages that you don't really farm on

[dark tinsel]

Yep, if i am not gonna farm anything doesnt matter for me using a rented operator hahaha

[trim flare]

I keep struggling with the mage boss in is4, not sure what hes calles but he leaves a blacn trail

[remote perch]

oh the Emperor blade wanna be

just use ranged dps like reedic

[karmic glade]

Normal map mlynar can hit while it is standing, alter map reedic S2 can easily sweep

[celest bluff]

We all know that the OG Emperor Blade is the best

[ivory leaf]

Team ideas:>?

[supple horizon]

Team ideas x2?

[celest bluff]

Instructor is a mid branch

Here is a better advice

Watch YouTube guide for clearing stage

[earnest geode]

Yes

[celest bluff]

Specifically low rarity

[earnest geode]

Depends on the stage tho

[celest bluff]

sigh

+1 gold cert

[tidal sedge]

any strats yall know to perma stall the CV-Ex-8 boss?
i got pretty close with Hoshi, Shining, and Eyja Alter but im always 1 resist rng away from the perma stall and wondering what more i can do to help hoshi out

[cyan gorge]

Silalter moment

[earnest geode]

I stall him at top first until the others were eliminated

[limpid siren]

Use Mousse S1 and spam the vent

[earnest geode]

Then let him move into the middle

[earnest geode]

Fast attack op also good

[limpid siren]

They’re negative buffs, which means he should end up with 0 atk in phase one and a tiny atk stat in phase two

[earnest geode]

Gotta watch out for his skill tho

[limpid siren]

He hits for peanuts under the effects of both

[vocal leaf]

shamare and mousse to not die

[earnest geode]

[vocal leaf]

it can fail tho if dont use shamare doll

[earnest geode]

Depends on how you wanna play tho

[vocal leaf]

also that’s e1 shining, she new

[earnest geode]

E2 her if u have the time,if possible

Best st medic imo

[vocal leaf]

it’s better to deploy her behind shamare, there the sniper guy can make a disaster

[earnest geode]

Yeah

Or the bombardier

[vocal leaf]

i will, i also have to build aak

[earnest geode]

I probably just wait for future ops

[vocal leaf]

no, i mean for the combo with ranged ops, she can save them from death

[earnest geode]

yeah

i think, if u talking about that, her s3 would be better

s2 is still usable tho

[vocal leaf]

the list is so large

[earnest geode]

dayum

what level are u?

[vocal leaf]

104, i started 1 year ago

[full finch]

wtf is that

[earnest geode]

hmm

understandable

[full finch]

why would you buy chalter skin and leave her at lv1

[limpid siren]

kinda based tho

[celest bluff]

Truly based

[vocal leaf]

because i will build her one day

[noble pewter]

https://youtu.be/QplsUvMBmlw?feature=shared I did it like this

[full finch]

huh

lv90s

[vocal leaf]

[earnest geode]

only like 20+

not too much

[vocal leaf]

i only have 7 lv90s

[full finch]

"not too much" as if those last 10 levels don't cost 250k LMD

[earnest geode]

[full finch]

wait, it's 300k

[earnest geode]

[full finch]

how many E2s

[earnest geode]

let me see

50

[full finch]

huh

[earnest geode]

not all lvl 90

[full finch]

I have 13 lv90s and 116 E2s
no LMD

[earnest geode]

damn

[mint jolt]

The boss evaporated from ebenholz

[earnest geode]

nice

[ivory leaf]

CV-5 halp:(

[earnest geode]

normal stage?

[ivory leaf]

Woh

[ivory leaf]

Yeah that one

My tanks hp just gets melted

[full finch]

post squad

if the spiders are the problem, they deal arts damage

[earnest geode]

indeed

[ivory leaf]

Paramilitary defender is my problem

[earnest geode]

hmm

[full finch]

use arts damage

[earnest geode]

yes

[full finch]

this whole event can be summed up with "use arts damage"

[ivory leaf]

Used erm

[full finch]

use more

[ivory leaf]

Oh

[full finch]

lava/amiya is not going to work

[ivory leaf]

So basically I just spam casters???

[earnest geode]

and maybe more medic

[full finch]

yes

[celest bluff]

Art guards

Or lapland on sw

[full finch]

the energy mechanic is rather annoying

[celest bluff]

S2

[earnest geode]

ur tanks really cannot hold too much with just one medic

[full finch]

every point of energy increases the ATK and DEF of enemies

[ivory leaf]

Warfarin?

[earnest geode]

that also can

[celest bluff]

[Me ignoring the whole energy thing]

[full finch]

and overload massively increases ATK, DEF, RES, and ASPD

[earnest geode]

after overload, like a piece of paper

[ivory leaf]

So how many medics casters and tanks do I need?

[fathom venture]

If u have ling u can finish it with just typhon, ling and texalter

I just did it

😭

[earnest geode]

i think 2 medic is enough if u just tank with enemy

[fathom venture]

3 if they're less than E2 but yes

[cyan gorge]

Ling boring, Silence fun

[earnest geode]

i guess 3 also can

[fathom venture]

It can also get annoying with the timing to replace the defender

And the boss can just walk past

[ivory leaf]

Welp looks like I'm bringing Ansel

[full finch]

yeah

[vocal leaf]

reedalt is a caster and a medic in one

[fathom venture]

Even had the op stunned long enough that he walks past them too

[ivory leaf]

I don't have one🕴️

[vocal leaf]

borrow one

[ivory leaf]

Okeh

[earnest geode]

u can have mine tho

[ivory leaf]

So I don't have to bring ansel

Yey

[earnest geode]

the id

[full finch]

Paramilitary Defender:
[Overload]: Attack Speed +120, Defense +200%, Arts Resistance +30 for 20s, Energy is cleared at the end of the duration.

[earnest geode]

what is ur id?

[vocal leaf]

be sure to set s2 since he doesn’t an e2, with s3 he will get s1 as default

[ivory leaf]

zenith#2521

[earnest geode]

u mean reed alter skill?

[earnest geode]

sent

[vocal leaf]

yes

[ivory leaf]

Okeh

So caster medic and tank

That's it?

[earnest geode]

yes

[ivory leaf]

Ight

Btw is silver ash S2 can be a sub tank?

[earnest geode]

hmm yeah

[ivory leaf]

Alright

[full finch]

okay so uh
overload buffs stack with energy buffs

meaning an overloading enemy has +200% ATK, +400% DEF, +120 ASPD, and +30 RES

[earnest geode]

💀

but still get beaten

[full finch]

it's made up for with enemies having unusually low base stats

[ivory leaf]

Okay uhh

It was close

[jovial nest]

pre-ch13 event's in ingame news

[earnest geode]

yes

[ivory leaf]

I just need a place for my ptil

[full finch]

16k HP, 500 ATK, 250 DEF, 20 RES

during overload,
1500 ATK, 1000 DEF, 50 RES

[ivory leaf]

What if I do back instead of front?

[earnest geode]

that's why he should be dealt with as soon as possible

[earnest geode]

i think u will have to take more def or guard to block all lane

[full finch]

the axe dudes actually have fairly low DEF, so phys is viable

the defenders have 600 base DEF, so phys isn't viable against them

[earnest geode]

but the atk would be lower a bit

[full finch]

300 ATK

[limpid siren]

overloaded axeman my beloved

also known as "where did my defender go?"

[full finch]

red axeman

1800 ATK during overload

[limpid siren]

[full finch]

not to mention +120 ASPD

[ivory leaf]

Okay not bad I did it

@earnest geode thanks for the reed wkwkwk now I'll do it in normal

Had to use practice plan:>

[earnest geode]

No problem

[full finch]

reed good

[earnest geode]

[full finch]

M6 was not a waste

[earnest geode]

Indeed

[full finch]

any ideas for 6op on the current anni?

[earnest geode]

Maybe virtuosa

[full finch]

[earnest geode]

[full finch]

how about this

[earnest geode]

Noice

[ivory leaf]

How good is virt?

[full finch]

she's decent for now

[ivory leaf]

I have 12k red rocks and planning to pull for anni

[earnest geode]

Deals great elemental damage

S3 and S1 probably mastery

[full finch]

the thing with elemental damage

it's static

so if an enemy has more than like 25k HP

[limpid siren]

wouldn't you just leave it at S3 for virtuosa

[full finch]

you're kinda outta luck

[ivory leaf]

What are the other units that is a must have

[full finch]

what I've heard, the best unit to aim for is degen for sure

"must have" isn't really a thing because this is a PvE game, but the meta exists to make life easier

[earnest geode]

Degenbrecher

Shu

[ivory leaf]

Oh right

[earnest geode]

And the r6 ela

For what I prioritise

[full finch]

shu and ela are both very good, but apparently degen is just built different

[earnest geode]

Indeed

New meta

What is the skill recommendation for degen?

I know S3 is too good

[full finch]

just S3

[earnest geode]

Ok

[full finch]

actually, her S1 and S2 are pretty decent on paper, but S3 is way too good

[earnest geode]

Yes

[full finch]

S2 doesn't need mastery either, it has terrible gains

[earnest geode]

Right

[ivory leaf]

Who tho I have to swap

I have Jaye and gravel and idk who to swap

[polar crane]

kick ashlock

[ivory leaf]

Okeh

[full finch]

wtf

why does the anni require arts damage

[ivory leaf]

Okay who next

[tidal sedge]

woo did it

[foggy grove]

where is "to the frying pan" medal smh

[ivory leaf]

Who next:>?

[polar crane]

kick amiya, you already have click

[ivory leaf]

For the Two S1 or S2?

[full finch]

and now, we wait

[polar crane]

click? s2

[ivory leaf]

No Jaye and gravel

[polar crane]

both s2

[ivory leaf]

I hate the caster

[full finch]

oh the sand casters

they suck, yeah

trolled by the boss

[limpid siren]

typhon bad

[full finch]

penans got stunned by the boss and leaked

[limpid siren]

i think the stun is the most dangerous part of the boss yea

[full finch]

do you think mizuki would be better than spalter

the blocking is nice

[limpid siren]

i'm not really sure what problem that solves

[full finch]

would help penans

[limpid siren]

how long does specter end up blocking for?

[full finch]

not too much, but when she isn't blocking she has the big slow

the main thing is that at 300, the bottom lane gets clumps of 4 dodge mobs

[limpid siren]

could be worth trying

but this is definitely why i can't ever be bothered to low op annihilation

[full finch]

it's dumb but honestly I'm having fun

[limpid siren]

Unthinkable

[void terrace]

Ling is just great for this map

4 block arts guard defenders

With 20 res

The during don't dodge arts

[full finch]

ling

[void terrace]

Yes

Ling

Blue women gang rise up

[full finch]

using ling just

drains all the fun away

fixed the stun issue but

nope

very close though

[deft orbit]

I tried recreating this strategy but I'm missing nightingale and skadi so Hoshi can survive the boss ability

Plz help, I need advise on this

[full finch]

borrow skalter

as for NG, uh

cope with a good medic ig

[deft orbit]

I'm borrowing mud already to solo the left lane

[full finch]

then you'll have to give up and try something else, or cope another way

afk strategies are pretty tough anyway

[earnest geode]

How is the annihilation

[full finch]

it's okay

dodge trash is annoying, but only the ending is really difficult

[earnest geode]

The boss?

That’s would be kind of annoying with the last marches of enemies

[full finch]

not the boss

[earnest geode]

But still reached on 400

[full finch]

the combination of boss damage, nasty robots, and red shield crocs

[earnest geode]

Yeah

What about the car

That would be annoying too

[full finch]

they're not that bad, you either have to over-DPS to prevent debuff, or solve the debuff another way

[earnest geode]

I remember bringing typhon S3

[full finch]

like using a tactician, spalter, etc.

[earnest geode]

To beat the boss and cars

[full finch]

here we go

[earnest geode]

Damn

[noble pewter]

If u have stainless u can put turret incr def, or lumen for more heal n negate stun, if got ifrit she can solo left too, then u can borrow the skalter

[full finch]

leaked

lol

[earnest geode]

Dang

[high warren]

There's clear with ling+skalter+mumu in arkrec

[full finch]

ling

automatically bad

[high warren]

Was easy enough

[full finch]

using ling means you've lost before you begin

[earnest geode]

Ling do be useful in most situations but not all

[full finch]

and I'm trying to not copy arkrec clears even though they're pretty neat

[high warren]

Oh you was one trying low op clear iirc

[earnest geode]

I follow my guide

[full finch]

like this boring shit

wow

gav mly ptilo 3op yet another stage

why am I not shocked

[midnight dragon]

is cliff more vurnerable to arts or phys dmg?

[full finch]

like almost all units, arts

oh you mean the boss

[earnest geode]

Put him in vent

[full finch]

💀

[midnight dragon]

ye

[high warren]

Ceobe

[earnest geode]

Therefore u can use everything

[high warren]

Phase 2 annoying

[midnight dragon]

ye but i wanna deal an extra hit in 2nd phase he kinda moves away from vent

[earnest geode]

Indeed

[midnight dragon]

so was like shud i bring tex2 or kirin yato for it

[noble pewter]

Why not both

[earnest geode]

He cannot kill my hoshi

[full finch]

okay yeah, cliff has 3500 def in phase 2

[midnight dragon]

can only borrow one

[midnight dragon]

thats a boring strat

[full finch]

and 70 RES

modest amount of durability

[midnight dragon]

so tex2 s3 it is

[full finch]

it's not going to deal any damage to cliff lol

[midnight dragon]

lmao bruh

[full finch]

but for mobs it'll be alright

[midnight dragon]

i dont need big dmg jus like an extra hit to guarantee and make it easier

[full finch]

I always use S2 for everything anyway

but apparently I'm just weird

[midnight dragon]

[earnest geode]

[full finch]

S3 just doesn't do very much damage

[midnight dragon]

ill try using both each one time
lets see who works better

[earnest geode]

[midnight dragon]

ye its more of crowd control

[full finch]

why would I need crowd control when I can just kill the enemy

[earnest geode]

[full finch]

[karmic glade]

Because enemy kill you

[full finch]

skill issue

difference in skill

[earnest geode]

And I kill them

[full finch]

my texas doesn't die

[earnest geode]

[full finch]

so it must be a you problem

[earnest geode]

[full finch]

this talent putting in work

[midnight dragon]

the damned tyhpon slow bruh

[celest bluff]

Technically killing the boss inside the laser still count as killing him with the laser

So the translation is not exactly wrong

[celest bluff]

I use lappland in the place of your Amiya

Silence disable dodge you know

[celest bluff]

S2

LORD IT IS S2

[glass monolith]

Medal is kill boss during vent debuff (which is while vent active on him + 1 second after it ends, and that second used by literally every low op clear i feel like )
What Yostar smokes to make translations i don't know

[scarlet mortar]

uh no the specific wording they used is "in both his first and second forms by damage from a [vent]"

you can't lawyer your way out of this one

[limpid siren]

Well no, if you take that reading then the meaning is ambiguous

Which is the opposite of “technically”

[glass monolith]

(googles meaning of "ambiguous")

[fickle sand]

I mean he got both S on Def and Res

[glass monolith]

And if we be super techicall - meaning they use is not ambiguous, it is straight up miss-information

[scarlet mortar]

cliff's stats are extremely straightforward lethal lmao

[fickle sand]

I tried the Hoshi strat but not used to it so I used brute force method and it worked

(Nuke him in 3 seconds)

[scarlet mortar]

if you're a midgame player you're getting your ass whooped by everything and the boss, so he definitely is unfair

[smoky halo]

S def and res sounds like a job for ceobe

[scarlet mortar]

the silver lining is that mlynar sweep p1 and most of the stage

[smoky halo]

does ceobe not carry?

[scarlet mortar]

you can't just solve only the boss

if you kill cliff but everything else kills you you lose anw

[smoky halo]

hm true

[midnight dragon]

ye i used yato s2 cuz i needed to activate vents as well

[smoky halo]

yato s1

its funnier

[fickle sand]

This was my team (can change nearl to anyone with a bit of damage)

[midnight dragon]

i dont hav her mate so borrowed

[midnight dragon]

i used almost the same team except no mlynar

[smoky halo]

thats very brute force kek

[midnight dragon]

and used skadi s3 instead

[smoky halo]

i used poze sham to dps

[midnight dragon]

i brought pozy to deal w mobs

after skalter died

[smoky halo]

i used sutur to tank the boss atk

[fickle sand]

Do your friend lists have one

[smoky halo]

schizo ahh strat

[earnest geode]

I changed to mlynar @midnight dragon

[midnight dragon]

ye

this my team

[earnest geode]

69s

[fickle sand]

Look tough

[midnight dragon]

gummy to keep skalter alive

[midnight dragon]

ye jus timing the vent was annoying part

[earnest geode]

Cv-ex-8 right?

[fickle sand]

Yeah that’s the reason why I don’t do the Hoshino strat

*hoshi

[midnight dragon]

ye

[earnest geode]

I used the hoshi strat

[smoky halo]

69

[earnest geode]

Plus skalter borrowed

[midnight dragon]

[smoky halo]

cant u borrow texas insteas of yato

[earnest geode]

Damn 69s

[smoky halo]

seems like texas better here

[midnight dragon]

i wanted immediate activation of vent so

didnt use her to deal dmg

[smoky halo]

ah

[midnight dragon]

jus the vent

[fickle sand]

You have all ope like my team except Mylnar right?

[midnight dragon]

ntrk was the extra dps and she got shield too so she was able to tank boss for a few sec

[midnight dragon]

yep

[smoky halo]

actually doesnt ntrk s2 tank cliff atk

[fickle sand]

Want me to record the play through?

[smoky halo]

since she has 4 shield

[midnight dragon]

nah

[smoky halo]

[midnight dragon]

i alr did the stage

[fickle sand]

Ah I see

[midnight dragon]

for like 8 sec

she dies

gotta deploy her wen cliff down 50% hp

[earnest geode]

For the stage

[smoky halo]

[earnest geode]

In my way

[south bone]

What the

[midnight dragon]

reed

[midnight dragon]

5* only?

dang

[earnest geode]

[south bone]

In a way

i'm just a wee confused

[polar steppe]

how to kill THE boss general tips please.

[sullen rover]

use the vents it debuffs him by -50% def and atk

[scarlet mortar]

-70%

[sullen rover]

isnt it 50 on ex 8

[scarlet mortar]

iirc only his stats change

thanks map.ark

[celest bluff]

Okay now what

Wait

Where the next wave

[smoky halo]

theres a killgate

enemies wont spawn if boss isnt phase 2

[ivory leaf]

Okay idk if I should E1 my Myrtle

[smoky halo]

why not

[ivory leaf]

Ion know

[glass monolith]

e2 s1m3 Myrtle is neat way to quickly produce alot of DP to bring your BS in combat with no skill needed

Which i avoid using because i became too depending on that DP and was not knowing how to play each time start myrtle was bad

[ivory leaf]

So basically no but yes?

[glass monolith]

Good: Yes
Addicting: Yes
Can lead to realization you overuse her so much you make your life harder trying to brute force her each stage even when it is not needed/harmful: Maybe

[ivory leaf]

Okay

I'll just stick to canti and fang for now

Should I replace canti for Texas?

[smoky halo]

yes

oh u have canta

i prefer canta over myrtle

in general content ofc

[ivory leaf]

Okeh

[glass monolith]

Canta is my most used vanguard right now. Alot of DP early, S2 is constant amount of DP even in debuff attack speed enviroment

And don't leak dog

[ivory leaf]

Oh didn't knew canta was decent vanguard

Just pulled her by accident when I wanted Texas

[glass monolith]

Like if your goal is have DP, she is quite good

[ivory leaf]

Yeah mostly my units are high in DP

[glass monolith]

If your goal is win stage by accident while generating DP as byproduct -

[ivory leaf]

And then there's Jaye

[smoky halo]

good ending

[ivory leaf]

Should I replace my Fang for another vanguard or just keep her?

[smoky halo]

keep fang

[ivory leaf]

Okeh

[trim flare]

Hi

[peak cloak]

no xd

[trim flare]

Damn ok

[peak cloak]

what do you need help with?

[trim flare]

Nvm then lol

Ive been struggling with is4, like steamrolled kind of struggle 😩

Ive been picking gavial as a starter which works alright, I just cant get enough operators to clear the first boss. Especially the mage boss which leaves a black trail?

Any general tips, maybe some different operators I can level.

[peak cloak]

@trim flare u mean this guy?

[trim flare]

Uhm he looks like it, hold on let me look it up

Yes

Thats him

Hes ended my run every single time

Ive been thinking of levelling lappland or normal specter, but idk if that would help

[plucky badge]

is it just me or is the trimmed medal for killing the boss using vents one of the most awful things I had to do in this game

[foggy grove]

no

the awful thing is mistranslation

you don't need to kill with vent

it's killing while vent is on

[plucky badge]

.... welp lmao

did it anyway

[scarlet mortar]

i like how they could've sneaked the fix in during the friendlist rollback but nobody noticed ig

[peak cloak]

honestly, the only useful advice will be: "just play and try your best, you fail (not just defeats), you learn."

dont forget to upgrade your skill tree too

@trim flare

[trim flare]

Okay, guess Ill keep brute forcing then 🙃 skill tree?

[vital arrow]

Thats a long ass way to say fuck around and find out

[peak cloak]

that's sound rude

[vital arrow]

Cross cultural comparison

[versed arrow]

ppl had reported it in #1211608727103340616 a week ago, its just if they wants to fix it or not guess devs are: we will leave it unfixed to give the ones that didnt notice harder challenge

[spark sinew]

i would rec to borrow stuff you don't have

in your case reed and jess (both 6*) are great starters to borrow

[solid dew]

can confirm, reed, popukar and orchid is a very nice start that works quite well
albiet im only up to D7 or so so far (waiting for expansion to not waste points lol)

[turbid badge]

i cant find a franka support

[limpid siren]

i can put

Igneus#1125

ping me if you want i'm going back to playing better games

[versed arrow]

wat points? the milestone points? or tech tree points? I personally would keep playing till I maxed the tech tree at least, plus there are still maps I need to find more optimal strats on even after maxing on current milestone cap

[near citrus]

can someone tell me what operators and collectibles are good to beat ending 4 in IS3?
these are most of my operator i have build currently

[vocal leaf]

are you struggling with normal or alter version? in any case like others said reed is a really good start, even at e1 she can kill him. i remember this run where the only e2 i had was that temp rope

this d12