strategy

[lean obsidian]

Really

[ivory leaf]

Uhhh 4-1

So basically I came back and noticed Twitter login was gone so I asked my friend what happened then there he said it's been long gone since they announced twitter changing apps

[lean obsidian]

Ah yes

X moment

[ivory leaf]

I have a low chance of gettting it though

I forgor my uid😔

[lean obsidian]

But having an operator that can carry you must be that sad

[ivory leaf]

Erm that account is level 30 (almost)

So yeah it did

Still finding if I had a SS on my uid somewhere

[lean obsidian]

Gl on your journey

Btw how many orundum u have?

[ivory leaf]

Erm

9k

(plus five orgi)

[lean obsidian]

Saving for virtuosa banner?

[shell arch]

Hey chat, how many aspd do i need for my og sl7s1 guard chen to continuously stun enemies?

[ivory leaf]

Skadi

[lean obsidian]

What

[ivory leaf]

I mean if it's a worthwhile unit meh I could spend a few hours grinding back

[lean obsidian]

I recommend saving it for virtuosa banner

U can get limited ops

[ivory leaf]

Sure

[shell arch]

How many aspd do i need for my og chen to stunlock an enemy with s1sl7

[lean obsidian]

I mean I'm confused

Chen stunlock?

[shell arch]

Bibi used to stunlock on cc4 lead seal

[somber stone]

Chen s1 stuns

[shell arch]

Chen s1 stuns

[lean obsidian]

How many ops u can stack in that game mode?

[somber stone]

What game mode

[limpid siren]

SSS? 5 typically

[limpid siren]

I will turn on my pc for your goofy ahh

[limpid siren]

5 + 1 that is

[lean obsidian]

Yup

[somber stone]

Isn’t it 6

[lean obsidian]

Haven't played sss for a while

[somber stone]

One op on five gears?

[lean obsidian]

Due to event swiping

[limpid siren]

You can get five stacks of equipment, which is the important detail

[shell arch]

Thanks

[lean obsidian]

Is ayerscarpe +Chen s1 a good idea?

[shell arch]

Not enough aspd to stunlock iirc

[lean obsidian]

What other ops that gives aspd (talents)

[somber stone]

Saileach

[lean obsidian]

If possible if talents can stack and imagine that Chen s1 stun

[edgy temple]

angelina

[cyan gorge]

Aak

[weak gazelle]

silence

[lean obsidian]

Only medics

[cyan gorge]

Add Stainless s2 for sp

[lean obsidian]

Great idea

[pure mortar]

Ayyylmao

[hollow nymph]

does saileach flag counts, iirc it gave attack speed too

[lean obsidian]

He does give aspd

[limpid siren]

something like +350
her talent doesn't actually help in this case because she has to hit a 1.5s pace, which means she gets it for one "cycle" and not for the next
so she's stuck needing to attack 5 times in under 1.5s without the talent pop anyway

[velvet hill]

any Ling solos on CV7?

I need grindstones

[shell arch]

Thanks bignyus

[pure mortar]

Youtube search it, there's one out there

By a certain lil someone

https://youtu.be/OOyKsILXCnk
It's always pard

Always

[velvet hill]

welp, timing too tight for me

I have a poor P1 Ling

so it's bring VG Texas or try a diff placement

[rich rune]

I'd love to do that if I had Ling. But I'm stuck using Mayer and Magallan.

Can't even auto deploy bc I use support Magallans.

[cosmic thicket]

I also have p1 ling and I got it to work consistently

No potsim required

[velvet hill]

the timing of the first dragon drop was too tight

I could never drop in time before that first guy leak through

[cosmic thicket]

literally just enter bullet time when you're at 17 DP

[pure mortar]

I also have p1 ling
Here's a different deployment order
https://youtu.be/rxaqgvyLqCc

with ling you can literally just freestyle, and you have battle plans, so always jump into the stage and just fuck around until you do it

[velvet hill]

okay I got it to work now

just had to pixel perfect that first drop ig

[pure mortar]

You don't need to, just deploy the dragon slightly back, she can regenerate summons anyway

[velvet hill]

you leak the artilleryman towards the bottom lane that way and he will hit Ling

I tried

[foggy grove]

he just literally showed you

you can drop 1st dragon in front of blue box

[scarlet mortar]

let windflit cook

[vernal lion]

bro

I need to E2 many 5 star op to play this squad lol

♿

[limpid siren]

play 5* only

[vernal lion]

[limpid siren]

a real one would have leizi e2

[pure mortar]

And a realer one would have leonhard e2 Nd also hard

[ivory leaf]

Is Myrtle worth Promoting?

[sullen rover]

if ur dpses arent built keep her at e1sl7

[pure mortar]

Yes

[scarlet mortar]

not until you have actual dps ops

most of the time no tbh

[pure mortar]

There's a case for e2ing her because she's cheap as fuck (4*), and she allows you to borrow e2 units

But that's about it

[cosmic thicket]

this

[sullen rover]

you can say that for about every 4 stars ever

[scarlet mortar]

the borrow argument kinda sucks bc you don't really want to do that for event farm stages anw

which is where most players will be farming

[vernal lion]

this looks tricky

[ivory leaf]

So no?

Some said yes in the other chat

[pure mortar]

The council voted no

[scarlet mortar]

generally no

[pure mortar]

Majority rule

[ivory leaf]

Alrighty

[vernal lion]

ofc dude will go backdoor

wait this one is very easy

[scarlet mortar]

yh the stage's easy

block on D5

most mobs path through there

as for the dog idk do whatever

[ivory leaf]

Whatchu recommend?

[scarlet mortar]

depends on your roster

who do you have?

[ivory leaf]

Wait

Here

[scarlet mortar]

...hmmmm jaye isn't bad if you want to run through story stages after this event

[ivory leaf]

I just need orgi

[scarlet mortar]

the 6*s kiinda suck unfortunately, bar SA

[ivory leaf]

So yeah you can say that

[scarlet mortar]

exu's good for early story stages though

[ivory leaf]

Well that's all I can get since I'm kinda saving up

[scarlet mortar]

there'll be a dead week coming kinda soon plus a new chapter release, you can use that time to catch up with story stages

[scarlet mortar]

try keeping firewatch on S1, it's her better skill

level everyone to at least E1L50

[ivory leaf]

Yeah that's my next problem

Money and exp

[scarlet mortar]

you can make do with that squad as you go tbh, though for stuff like this event it'll kinda hurt

[cosmic thicket]

upgrade ur base?

[ivory leaf]

Erm could but I'd rather spend on mats:>

[cosmic thicket]

the base is the main way you get LMD and EXP in the endgame

[ivory leaf]

Oh

[scarlet mortar]

how far have you gotten in CV?

[ivory leaf]

Not too far

[scarlet mortar]

try getting to CV-7 and farm the hell outta it

[cosmic thicket]

after current event is over spend time upgrading ur base (and use the correct layout)

[scarlet mortar]

you'll want all the grindstone you can get

[ivory leaf]

Sure will do

C-7 and grind for the grindstone

Okeh

[calm badge]

I made the decision to be an abyssal hunter player. I have them all. Anyone got any good resources on ideal skills, setup, or great complimentary operators to go with fish force 6?

[scarlet mortar]

arts damage tbh

arts, ranged dps, then just any utility

AH + skalter just facetanks most things so chances that you'll need more healing are rare

conversely anything that can deal enough damage for it to matter probs should be killed asap anw

[calm badge]

I figures eyjalter was overkill but handles any other 5 that may need healing.

[deft badger]

good decision

[scarlet mortar]

eh no they're enough to hold all lanes in the average stage

stages generally can't have more than 3 lanes in total if you consider the deployment limit

[calm badge]

Yeah. And between spalter, skadi, and specter there's 3 covered.

Ines maybe over bag for dp gen?

[scarlet mortar]

AH can just tank all lanes, the remaining 6 might as well be helidrop tanks or nuke buttons

heck skalter's healing at least two of those

[calm badge]

Notice texalter in the 6

[scarlet mortar]

skalter doesn't have to be stationed on AHs if gladiia's fielded

[scarlet mortar]

i did

hence it's a general recc

[calm badge]

Typhon for boss assassination makes sense.

Jess is just there for event and messing around. Will be swapped back to kirin

May just try Ines for bag and see how I do on a universal stomping team. AH is so damn good.

[scarlet mortar]

you can swap myrtle for ines tbh

she's jam-packed with utility and you don't need DP when the entire AH squad's so cheap

[vernal lion]

alright

time to harass

[void terrace]

Damn

N15 first node

Do I yolo it

I don't think Chen would be good in the long run but

More bodies is better

[vernal lion]

why not Gavial

[deft badger]

she is actually good

everything with a nuke capability is good...

[void terrace]

That's why

I usually go gavail

But

I'm being tempted by a blue haired woman

[void terrace]

Sadly not one of the broken ones

Y no orchid

[deft badger]

didn't lvl her up to lazy to do, i am out of lmd atm 😄

[void terrace]

Rip

[peak cloak]

F

@deft badger ❤️

bye

[void terrace]

Whelp fk it Chen it is

[vernal lion]

my opening belike

e2 squad is just busted

[deft badger]

do we wanna talk about this or ignore it

[peak cloak]

m1 gaming

[void terrace]

Wait how TF even

What squad is that

[calm badge]

Tyty smart there too.

[vernal lion]

ofc it's sniper medic squad lol

[void terrace]

0_o

[vernal lion]

[void terrace]

No as in I mean start

It was random?

[vernal lion]

yes

[void terrace]

Damn

[vernal lion]

and I win big prize

[void terrace]

Insane

[vernal lion]

[void terrace]

This run just keeps giving me hard choices fml

Eyja or reedic ☠️

Eyja for value but

Got secret hr dispatch letter

[vernal lion]

depend on how you play

[somber stone]

Take honeyberry

[void terrace]

Going ending 1 on n 15

[deft badger]

reed

[void terrace]

Gavail core

[vernal lion]

I just pick reed as always for ed1

[void terrace]

Hmm

[vernal lion]

because ice floor is so tanky

[void terrace]

Just wondering if i should value pick eyja here

And just gamble on getting Reed a bit later

[void terrace]

Watching it explode is fun

[vernal lion]

the explosion is always fun to watch

[void terrace]

Ah fk it I'm taking eyja first. I'll probably get another medic ticket soon

[deft badger]

can can heal just fine everything with her e1

[peak cloak]

pc: do not activate reed's skill, i repeat, do not

*blue screen

[scarlet mortar]

has decent enemy start
throws it to khagan

average IS4 run

[limpid siren]

are you really playing IS if you're not throwing

[deft badger]

that map dude... xD

[vernal lion]

have fun

[deft badger]

nah with one e2 its just stupid lost 3 hp on it

wish that at least ines was e2

her skill isn't ready when the 2nd caster spawn comes, she doesn't bind them, they take one shot from exe and just run in

[vernal lion]

another win

[glass monolith]

Where her e2

[deft badger]

is that for typhon?

don't even know what she is

[vernal lion]

yes

[lapis hornet]

yes

besieger is what she is

[glass monolith]

Besieger - Rosa, Typhon, Racism, Tutter
Deadeye - Fartooth, Firewatch, Ambriel, Lunacub
Heavyshooter - , Pozy, Acid||trip||drop
Well some of those i can name without going into sites

[deft badger]

whats with this game today

[vernal lion]

[crisp bolt]

[deft badger]

the hell is this map...

[vocal leaf]

a travel to is2

[glass monolith]

Yato S2 tile

[deft badger]

i lost..

i don't know if i should like ever combine 2 red

3 of the fat dudes took all the free spots in the middle

90% it never helps considered where they are standing, when my team is full of guards

[turbid badge]

forgetting erato is criminal

[vernal lion]

huh?

[tidal sedge]

You can do it. Nothing will happen though

[vernal lion]

[glass monolith]

Hot woman dig snow

[lost summit]

Im loving Fiametta for this Anni

[deft badger]

whats the point of that thing, if u cant even keep ur hp at 1 hp

[crisp bolt]

skill issue

in is2 there's the cursed relic, relic sucks in is3 but you can cope getting the other king relic encounter

but command level up restores hp

[vernal lion]

it's King Game

go big or go home

[glass monolith]

Me as introvert: Thanks i will take home

[deft badger]

really?

[crisp bolt]

I want to see people actually try and kill cliff with heat vent damage

[deft badger]

well u are going to see me in a sec XD

[crisp bolt]

you only need to kill him within 1 second of being damaged by the vent

aka while he still has the def debuff

[deft badger]

can he be frozen?>

[crisp bolt]

nope

[deft badger]

ok nvm...

but slow works

i guess, since its not listed here

[jovial nest]

...shit

I forgot the EXs exist today

spent all my sanity

[deft badger]

lol

[jovial nest]

I am not willing to spend the pots i got this week

I'll just wait

[deft badger]

i did refill with

where does he even spawn?

[south bone]

top red box

naturally

[lethal dragon]

Cliff is very sus

[deft badger]

the kill him when vent is active did work...
https://youtu.be/FB4HFROMJIo

[foggy grove]

my brain is auto pilotting to cv 7 when i should have been doing ex

[lapis hornet]

oh

thanks for reminding me to log into ak today

[sullen rover]

cant beat cv ex 8
just auto cv 7

[lapis hornet]

that's what I'm doing

[deft badger]

he and unable to beat cv-ex-8, he is trolling

[fierce tendon]

The medal is for ex 8 is gay af

Boss keeps dashing through the snow on my ops on phase 2

Any easy tips?

[remote perch]

stall the boss

then just use units with fast aspd to activate the vents

[edgy temple]

guys, how do oyu beat cv-ex 8 cm?

[deft badger]

u can 3 op it

ling texas typhon

[edgy temple]

i can kill the 1st form but the 2nd form massacre my op

[hollow nymph]

silence alter s3 helps with the 2nd form dmg

[fierce tendon]

Max pot?

And i can borrow texas cuz i have ling and typhon

[fierce tendon]

But he keeps dashing in phase 2

After stalling him

[remote perch]

he only dashes if he kills something with his skill

[void terrace]

hunters solve a lot of that problem

[deft badger]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3NI6Y-ssHY&ab_channel=pard

btw he cant kill spalter or skadi xD

so no dashing for him

[void terrace]

*skadii wondering who's throwing pebbles at her as clip empties his mag and blinks

[deft badger]

skadi lumen gladiia would be probably the best if u have to stall him

lumen to get skadi out of the cc so that he can't walk by, gladiia to give skadi the extra dr

but i have the feeling he can kill her on cm have to try it

[smoky halo]

just use pot5 mosti to stall

[hollow nymph]

was running this team on the cm stage. need to activate silence s3 after 2nd phase start. (The original idea was taken from oyuki ch clear & adjusted to fit the op that i own)

[deft badger]

mine died to typhon

[kindred galleon]

who needs vents

[edgy temple]

did you deploy the upper op after the boss pass through?

[hollow nymph]

i started deploying the upper ops when clip is at H9

[deft badger]

dude really struggles hard vs spalter xD

[timid schooner]

just warfarin + typhon it

[novel pivot]

Aakfarin typhon kills boss before it leaves top lane

Plop a shamare down and its guaranteed

[timid schooner]

might as well raise vampire medic someday

smh i dont build shamare

[timid schooner]

oi laurentina u gud bro

[novel pivot]

Who would win

Old man with gun

Or

-50% atk and def

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/794980929227063386.png?size=48

[timid schooner]

shamare:nah i would win

[fierce tendon]

Holy sheesh i did it

Clip has like 1.5%HP and golden glow gladly never finished him but drop him by 1% so that remaining 0.5% HP will be for the vents

[deft badger]

vent doesn't have to kill him

u can kill him with whatever

but the vent has to be on him when u do

[fierce tendon]

As in its fine i can kill him without using the vent as long as i can kill him when he got damaged by the vents

?

[deft badger]

i think he has to be damaged at the same time by the vent when he dies

when i was trimming mine, texas killed him both times

yato was turning vents on before i dropped texas on him for the last hit

[remote perch]

you just have to kill him while he's debuffed by the vents

[meager merlin]

Anyone here have a support shamare?

[fierce tendon]

Oohhh fuk

I should've realized sooner, my dumb brain can't understand the wording

[grizzled otter]

not a en cant read moment. Bad translation moment

[old arch]

Hmm.

I have a question. Like, I'm not necessarily asking for help but maybe... just some reassurance.

CV-EX-5. Is it like actually really hard. Or am I not big-braining it and it's deceptively easy.

That's all I'd like to hear lol.

Wait. Deceptively hard?* Idk.

[grizzled otter]

Its pretty hard since the enemies have such high stats, abuse arts maybe use skalter s2 so ur ops die less

[noble pewter]

well all these grenadiers enemies seem crazy tough imo, even my texaslter n yalter atking same time together cant take down a single one

[old arch]

Okay damn. So it's actually a hard map lol.

Hmm.

[limpid siren]

sure add Igneus#1125

[meager merlin]

Nvm

[old arch]

Hi legendary 5*-san.

[meager merlin]

I JUST GOT IT

RAHHHH

SHAMARE FOR THE WIN

[worldly stirrup]

I still dont get the medal 💀

[grizzled otter]

If u have yalter u can use her for the drones

[old arch]

I don't. 😭 It's not even the drones I think. It's the grenadiers.

They keep me from deploying my vanguards on time, or if I do but followed by healers, then they target my healers.

[limpid siren]

you might be deploying too aggressively

[grizzled otter]

deploy ur vg’s further back then

[foggy grove]

as long as they are not on overload texas s2 kill it on one deployment

[old arch]

Wait wait. So don't spoil too much, but this is the issue.

I can't deploy any further back because that entire area is covered by the vents.

[noble pewter]

maybe is my texas s2 only m2 problem n mine is only lv75

[grizzled otter]

tactician or agent vg

[old arch]

But regarding deploying aggressively... hmmm. That suggests that maybe I should deploy a decel and... avoid vanguards?

[noble pewter]

i think he said dont deplyo aggresively

[worldly stirrup]

Deploy here

[old arch]

Oh. Hmm.

[old arch]

Wait. What does deploy aggressively mean LOL.

[grizzled otter]

u could always just skip vanguards the stage is pretty slow

[old arch]

Yeah tbh that's what I'm thinking.

[worldly stirrup]

Or just use canta

[noble pewter]

u could just deploy to the far left n ur vg be safe, then slowly set up from there, then drop some gravel etc to bait grenadier when they nearing the line, n if blockers dont adjacent to healers then the splash dmg wont hurt that bad

[grizzled otter]

say u havent played this stage without saying you havent played this stage(the vents cover all the ground tiles on the left half of the map)

[worldly stirrup]

[noble pewter]

drop a healer after the 1st vg it dont hurt that bad, or maybe cause i using nightingale

[old arch]

Erm guys it's okay. It's np lol. But yeah, I did do that but like I said, then the grenadier started shooting at my healer.

Well I could do healer then vanguard, but y'know, that's.. really suboptimal and I risk leaking from the other end.

[grizzled otter]

the vents do 2k arts dmg over 10 seconds

[old arch]

Well, I did.

Anyway, it's np.

[worldly stirrup]

You can try deploy myrtle like pict above.
Or maybe use agent vanguard
👍

[old arch]

I'd prefer not to look at pics like I said to avoid spoilers haha. Thanks though.

[worldly stirrup]

I see

Good luck👍

[old arch]

I swear, CV-EX-8 better be insanely easy.

To make up for this insanity.

[green gazelle]

Guys can I have tips for this level

This level is fucking insanely hard

[noble pewter]

its not well .. depends ur lineup i guess...

[void terrace]

Why is cv ex 8 easier than cv 8

[old arch]

LOL.

[void terrace]

Straight up

Didn't have to restart or redeploy anyone

[old arch]

Wait ong?

[void terrace]

Ok but

I used hunters

And typhon

[noble pewter]

abyssal hunters ?

[void terrace]

Skadi and spalter bully the crap out of cliff

[old arch]

I have a lower* rarity team so maybe I'm asking for it.

[noble pewter]

stand proud, u r strong

[void terrace]

Skalter and salter also help

[old arch]

Yeah, I'd win. (Eventually.)

[grizzled otter]

trimmed medal?

[void terrace]

Not yet

I did too much dmg

Cliff died before the vent came up lmao

I just need some fast redeploys to activate the vent faster probably

[fierce tendon]

Ex 5 is insane

[void terrace]

Typhon plus skalter deltes cliff

[foggy grove]

trim is easy just nuke while vent is on

[scarlet mortar]

"the harder it is, the easier it is" - idk some is4 sweat

[void terrace]

Yeah I need to nuke AFTER the vent

[foggy grove]

blud on power trip and can't resist

[void terrace]

Forgot I could manually charge the vents

[foggy grove]

[grizzled otter]

bring skalter s2

[fierce tendon]

Medic test

[fierce tendon]

I'm already done lmao

[void terrace]

I used ling

And pennace

If you can charge pennance fast enough she can hold the choke with another defender

[green gazelle]

My team for Cv-Ex-5

[void terrace]

Ooh

[grizzled otter]

eyja1, eyja2, saria, skalter, and blaze afk the stage 💤

[void terrace]

That's pretty good your penance is just under levelled

I used this joke of a monstrosity and it won

[green gazelle]

Myrtle is getting shred though so not enough dp

[void terrace]

Pennance just solo held the choke while everyone died

[green gazelle]

My penance has one masteries on S3

[void terrace]

Nowonder

[grizzled otter]

i think u might need to borrow a better defender or healer for a easier time

[void terrace]

You can cheese the opening with salter too

[green gazelle]

My gg has 2 masterie on S3

[void terrace]

She provides enough heal/DMG resist on helidrop to open

On s3

[limpid siren]

deploying aggressively means you're deploying units close to enemies
hugging the blue box gives you plenty of time to set up without being harrassed by the grenadiers

[green gazelle]

Can typhon survive the vents first wave (my typhon i mean)

[grizzled otter]

just borrow eyja medic s1m3 and it should out heal everything

[grizzled otter]

she dies

just dont deploy her in range of the things

or not at all she isnt very good for this stage

[foggy grove]

she can lanehold from left ranged tile

[grizzled otter]

I’d rather use arts

[signal lichen]

she has a perfect aoe circle right there

but i also prefer arts so

[shell arch]

Chungus first talent said normal attack will have 23% chance to amplify the damage by 65%

How does this work? Is this a fragile or atkscale?

[void terrace]

Wait until the first overdrive of the greander is over

Then deploy silence alter

And a vanguard

[deft badger]

yalter 😄

[green gazelle]

Guys where do I put Myrtle?

[void terrace]

Use silence alter skill and you have 60 seconds of time

[limpid siren]

dmg_scale, which is what fragile is

it's post-mitigation scaling

[shell arch]

Does it apply to skills too or strictly basic attacks?

[void terrace]

Then throw down another medic and cycle with silence alter

[limpid siren]

idk i've never used him

ask @sly pivot

[sly pivot]

what the fart

[shell arch]

The "normal attack" part is kinda weird

[sly pivot]

just means his autos can only proc it

[vital arrow]

His normal attacks have a chance to apply a 65% fragile

[deft badger]

don't know whats there hard to understand.. xD he does more dmg

[sly pivot]

and its fragile

iirc

[limpid siren]

it would be keyworded if it was fragile

[sly pivot]

i mean works like fragile

[limpid siren]

yea dmg_scale

[vital arrow]

Its dmg_scale, which is fragile lookalike

[shell arch]

Weird. If it's damage scale, would the enemy get amplified dmg from other ops?

[limpid siren]

fragile is the fraud tbh

[sly pivot]

so its after the buffs or smth

[limpid siren]

after def

[sly pivot]

shut up!!

[vital arrow]

Read the text again

[limpid siren]

nevermind don't ask khant about stuff

[grizzled otter]

Is it not just 23 chance to trigger 1.65x dmg for himself for 2.5s per hit?

[sly pivot]

im the dude who throws ops at something until it works

🫡

no brain all brawn

[signal lichen]

it specifies his damage no one elses so its not a real fragile from the way i understand it

[shell arch]

Yeah but it's dmg scale. I'm surprised they don't forgor the said dmg scale only specify chungus as its sole benefactor

[vital arrow]

The text literally says 'Chongyue'

[grizzled otter]

fragile is a debuff where enemies take x% more damage. Chingyues talent is bsically just a crit talent

[shell arch]

I have reading incomprehension

[sly pivot]

its still a debuff

[clever kernel]

go back to work

[sly pivot]

but whatever

[limpid siren]

fragile is just dmg_scale with a fancy name

[vital arrow]

Amigo I will hit you

[smoky halo]

take ur pills amigo

[foggy grove]

[shell arch]

Anyway so tldr;
Chungus basic attack deals fragile debuff to enemy he hits
The said fragile only applies to chungus
Skills do not proc his first talent

Are those true?

[sly pivot]

its that the debuff works only for chungus

[scarlet mortar]

it's a debuff that only chongyue can use

[grizzled otter]

yeah uh sure it is, but this isnt fragility since it isnt a debuff

[limpid siren]

franka???

[smoky halo]

? its dscale not fragile what

[limpid siren]

it is a debuff

[vital arrow]

You need to go to a psychiatrist

Or get an MRI

[foggy grove]

amigo lay off the booze smh

[limpid siren]

it's not fragile because it's not fragile

[shell arch]

I'm high. I somehow mistook franka as chungus

[sly pivot]

can someone pull up chungus s1 and s3 skill descs

[deft badger]

lol

[limpid siren]

fragile is just a keyword the game uses to prevent players from stacking too many different sources of dmg_scale

[sly pivot]

im p sure those 2 do normal attacks

so they can apply it too

[smoky halo]

all squares are rectangles
not all rectangales are squares
fragile is a form of dscale
not all dscale is fragile

[void terrace]

Gg

[limpid siren]

gg

[grizzled otter]

pro yapping im losing brain cells

[limpid siren]

then stop yapping

[sly pivot]

weird

well i never cared abt the finer details

on s3 its perma uptime cause he does double hits

[void terrace]

Goldenglow just trivalise this event. With skalter and saileach to sliiightly buff her

[shell arch]

S3 doesn't state it's a normal attack
Which is why I'm confused about his first talent

Though I'm always confused 24/7

[void terrace]

She just goes wild and memes on the entire map

[vital arrow]

Wdym s3 doesnt state its a normal attack

[smoky halo]

uh does chungus s3 do red number cause u can just check

[void terrace]

One pink doggo vs entire paramilitary company

[sly pivot]

he does like 8 hits before s3 pops

[deft badger]

bro his AA have a chance to boost his dmg for 65% for the next 2.5 sec

[void terrace]

Goldenglow: nah id win

[sly pivot]

so if the debuff isnt up by then ure just bad

[deft badger]

means everything that comes out from him in those 2.5 sec does more dmg just him

[fierce tendon]

Even the vents can't save me so i brought shamare

[shell arch]

It does? I genuinely have reading comprehension issue

What is considered as normal attacks anyway?

[vital arrow]

What

S3 just expands his attack range

The actual s3 is just the big hit

The rest are normal attacks

[sly pivot]

when skill isnt used

[vital arrow]

Amigo you do know chongyue S3 is just a fancy powerstrike right

[signal lichen]

big number

[sly pivot]

first part of chungus is his deals 380%

thats a skill hit

[vital arrow]

The actual s3 is just the big hit

[sly pivot]

2nd part is when he expands range and does double hits

[shell arch]

I'm referring to the 380% atkscale

Can it proc first talent?

[vital arrow]

He doesnt deal 380% every hit on S3

[sly pivot]

the double hits are just normal attacks

[vital arrow]

No its not a normal attack

[shell arch]

Well I was confused about that part. Thanks for clarifying

[smoky halo]

i cant believe amigo fell off

[deft badger]

the hell did u smoke for real now...
i need a painkiller after reading all of this

[sly pivot]

that implies he has somewhere to fall off

[shell arch]

implying am*go had ever been up there

Wait mb for the reply

[sly pivot]

if u need a painkiller to read this u shouldnt be on here

[smoky halo]

[foggy grove]

he even replied on the wrong message

[shell arch]

Anyway thanks chat, this clears up my confusion. I really appreciate it

[sly pivot]

kill urself amigo 💔

[green gazelle]

I just beaten it I borrowed texas alt CV-EX-5

[signal lichen]

is the trim condition just to hit him with vents twice?

[sly pivot]

make vents do last hit on clip

[vital arrow]

Isnt it just

[cosmic thicket]

apparently this is a mistranslation

[sly pivot]

wharrr

[vital arrow]

Beat cliff phase 1 and 2 under vent debuff

[deft badger]

its to kill him while the vent fries his a-

[cosmic thicket]

it's "kill while he's taking damage from a vent"

[sly pivot]

thats 10x lamer

[green gazelle]

I thought or?

[scarlet mortar]

wait that's it?

[sly pivot]

😔

[signal lichen]

ahhhhhhh

[sly pivot]

thats how u beat him anyways

[signal lichen]

kill while taking damge

that is it

[sly pivot]

zzz

[scarlet mortar]

nice first try ig

[signal lichen]

that would explain why i didnt get the trim

[deft badger]

nice is right btw...

[signal lichen]

i got him hit twice but didn't kill during the hit

[sly pivot]

u get a medal for doing what ure suppose to do

[vital arrow]

Participation medal

[fierce tendon]

Ex 5 cm says hi

[scarlet mortar]

i'll think abt it later :ceobesmart

[sly pivot]

do ex 8 cm already!!

[limpid siren]

wtf mods

[sly pivot]

i bet u cook clip with 20 dorothy mines

[shell arch]

Without external support, what's the highest skill dmg can chungus s3m3 p1 lvl90 deal?

[scarlet mortar]

60 res zzz

[limpid siren]

fraud stage

[sly pivot]

okay but u bind his ass to death!!

u just use like 2 dps

or smth

like uhmm

[scarlet mortar]

nah doro S3's better

[sly pivot]

actually?

damn

[fierce tendon]

Grenade dudes are the real boss 🗣️🔥🔥

[sly pivot]

guess 3k def is worse than 60 res

[scarlet mortar]

the other ones have ranges too small or do phys too slowly

[limpid siren]

grenadiers are frauds

[scarlet mortar]

or are dusk arknights who feeds him tp's

[sly pivot]

when the ax man powers up and exalter on s3 does scratch

really funny

[fierce tendon]

Cant wait the CC version of this event

Grenade dudes being global range

[deft badger]

3k on 0def, if i didn't understand something wrong 😂
1 year still no clue how really def and dmg works

[fierce tendon]

[foggy grove]

wth

ain't no way he is only hitting 3k

[fierce tendon]

Axe man and the defenders are just jokes

[deft badger]

there we go xDDDD

[shell arch]

Let's just assume it's against 0 def

[sly pivot]

isnt it 4k

[crude bough]

Is there a decent substitute for Surtr?

[sly pivot]

650 x 380% x 1.65

its 4k twice cause s3 perma does 2 casts at once

[scarlet mortar]

lmao it's still a 3op until the last wave

gimme my hype back

[shell arch]

590 base atk
60 from trust
650 times 380% times 165%
Can someone confirm it's 4075.5?

[deft badger]

what's that 1,65?

[sly pivot]

the talent

cause

[shell arch]

First talent

[deft badger]

ahh ok

[sly pivot]

thats what it was about

for like the entire convo

[smoky halo]

talent dscale

[foggy grove]

it hit twice btw

[shell arch]

Sweet, I didn't know this. I thought it was just once

[scarlet mortar]

probs should've used W S1

i benched her for nearly the entire CM and only dropped her to see how the last wave does

[sly pivot]

wtf do u use to dps cliff even

[scarlet mortar]

dorosweep

[deft badger]

yeah its a double hit so its 8k?

[foggy grove]

so 4075x2

[shell arch]

Khant would you mod3 current chungus mod for more uptime or wait for the second mod for possibly more dmgscale?

[sly pivot]

ehh

its iffy

its not that good

[scarlet mortar]

lmao male EX-8 CM record used eben

sweep

[sly pivot]

personally mod3s need to be mostima mod3 level or im not mod3ing

[shell arch]

Not even 65% to 75% dmgscale improvement?

[sly pivot]

i mean curremt chungus

mod

i cant say i hate it

its good

for me

i would mod3

but would i rec?

not rlly

mod0 works the same

cause the sp he gets from no kill is odd

[deft badger]

stats i take it

[sly pivot]

so its the same

mod2 ig

is where i can push it

better wait for his next mod

[shell arch]

thanks

I was thinking the same

[sly pivot]

most 6* ops are practically the same with or without mod

[shell arch]

It's quite similar to fia mod. Either fast aspd or hit harder per attack

[sly pivot]

improvement isnt that much

and mod blocks are rare enough

so unless its mostima level i dont consider it

that said i do have like 20 useless mods

[shell arch]

Just to confirm, chungus first talent applies after reductions from def and reduce dmg taken right?

[sly pivot]

after

[shell arch]

thanks

[sly pivot]

cause if its increasing dmg taken

that means it already went through def calcs

instead if its increasing dmg dealt like deals 110% it hasnt gone through def calcs

probably

if its wrong its wrong

all it matters is chungus hit hard

[shell arch]

[wicked viper]

just wait for 2nd module

[old arch]

Oh lol. CV-EX-5 was actually pretty easy. Thank you guys.

[wicked viper]

should be a lot better

[shell arch]

I'm quite confused. I'll reprocess that

[old arch]

The biggest tip I got was to not deploy aggressively.

[wicked viper]

since it should buff the good talent

and +10aspd when >50% hp

[old arch]

So I didn't deploy aggressively LOL.

[sly pivot]

not like chungus struggles doing dmg

so i cant care less

[wicked viper]

well not like current module help in in that much either

15% dodge

[sly pivot]

yea i would say dont mod him

even if his 2nd mod comes

[shell arch]

So modless vs mod3 chungus is 4075 vs 4357 dmg

[sly pivot]

unless he gets some wacky shit like 100%

more

[wicked viper]

im expected 2nd module to be at least 20% more dps than no mod

current module is like 6.9% dps gain

[sly pivot]

how much better is blaze with her mod

im p sure its around 20

[shell arch]

Like 200 attack better

[sly pivot]

or more

but i aint gonna mod blaze

[shell arch]

It was from 1.6k to 1.8k atk per hit

[sly pivot]

she works the fucking same at mod0

[wicked viper]

blaze is ~30% better at 0 def iirc

[sly pivot]

unless ure optimising or shit

[wicked viper]

but if you consider medium def like 1k

it goes up to ~60%

[sly pivot]

its such a waste of mats

[wicked viper]

its +200 atk

but rather 2k dph

because of mod1 effect

so its a lot

also 12 aspd

[sly pivot]

whatever my mod0 blaze still copies all of kyostins afk guides

[shell arch]

Oh yeah i forgor the aspd part

[wicked viper]

the problem is just

its blaze

[shell arch]

So ture bestie

[smoky halo]

kazi book synergy

[sly pivot]

and unless chungus gets mostima tier mod hes gonna work the same at mod0

[shell arch]

Is it fine to assume +10 aspd is attacking 10% faster?

[wicked viper]

usually yes

unless weird frame rounding

[shell arch]

[wicked viper]

oh is this for chongyue

[shell arch]

I'm trying to see the possibility of 2nd mod chungus

[smoky halo]

doesnt s3 animation fuck over aspd gain

[wicked viper]

yes but mainly if you attack really fast

[shell arch]

Chishasu i do not give you my consent to read my mind

[wicked viper]

10aspd isnt that much

[shell arch]

[sly pivot]

brawlers dont give a shit abt 10 aspd

[smoky halo]

can i read ur mind amigo

[wicked viper]

well they do

[sly pivot]

its nothing

cba to care abt it

[merry narwhal]

well, thank god they only get it above 50% hp

[wicked viper]

brawlers go from 24 frame per attack to 22 frame per attack

[sly pivot]

thats so awesome!!!

[wicked viper]

even if they have low interval

10 aspd mean 10 aspd

[sly pivot]

yea man this is a garbage mod1

[smoky halo]

[merry narwhal]

fortress defenders getting a block module was also pretty dumb tbh

[wicked viper]

its practically unconditional 10% dps

[limpid siren]

fortress defenders at least don't need to be the one blocking

[wicked viper]

well

9.09% dps from 10 aspd

because of frame rounding

[sly pivot]

not even 20% from mod1

[merry narwhal]

"why yo dps so low"
"I was framed"

[sly pivot]

the brawlers were fucked from the start

[wicked viper]

that is just from 10 aspd

[shell arch]

So as far as I can see, chungus current mod3 reduces sp requirement for skills by 1? How many aspd is the equivalent of attacking 1 time faster to proc s3m3?

[wicked viper]

not atk yet

[sly pivot]

alot

[wicked viper]

i made a write up for chongyue mod #help message

[sly pivot]

why calc

[shell arch]

Like more than 300?

[wicked viper]

its not 1 time faster

because chongyue s3 hit twice

[sly pivot]

nothing cause its odd

[limpid siren]

amigo on his way to bother people about aspd every day this week

[shell arch]

I still can't grasp how aspd and atk interval work

[smoky halo]

chong gains 2sp per hit so 1sp is usless for him

[wicked viper]

chongyue mod3 increase dps if he manage to kill stuff

[sly pivot]

idk if it actually interupts the double hit midcast to cast s3

[wicked viper]

otherwise nah

[wicked viper]

nope
can test quite easily with blood bath + chen s1

[sly pivot]

well damn shudve test with chungus

[shell arch]

Alright, sweet, thanks. I have made up my mind not to mod3 chungus due to this

[wicked viper]

never actually get both

or just test with chen talent giving 1 sp

[shell arch]

Current chungus mod sounds like a trap for non nerds

[sly pivot]

laneholder mod 🚮

[wicked viper]

something something aak buff without def buff

just high rolls

[smoky halo]

live exec reaction:

[wicked viper]

oh nvm

he can receive aak buff regardless anyway

[sly pivot]

exec is cooked

zuo le is the new kid around the block

maybe being stingy with mod blocks isnt the way

prolly too harsh on who gets mod

[shell arch]

Being stingy with mod blocks is the way

[sly pivot]

when i rec mods

[shell arch]

If you don't, you'll run out of them in one go

[limpid siren]

atk interval is just the time in seconds an operator needs to complete an attack sequence
aspd is 100 by default, so you can consider it as like "i'm attacking at 100% of my attack speed"
typically, you can think of -20 aspd as "attacking 20% slower", and +20 aspd as "attacking 20% faster"

the reason it's split into two things this way is just to make it easier to define the base attack "speed" for a given archetype

[sly pivot]

i get away with mod3ing random shit

and still has some spare

[wicked viper]

just hope chongyue doesnt get a case of suzu mod lol

[green gazelle]

Guys I need help on CV-EX-8 I am using the same team

[limpid siren]

i can't really think of a good analogy, but to keep it simple:
attack interval is the baseline, and aspd is usually what modifies

[scarlet mortar]

misreading vent timer be like

[shell arch]

Oh sweet, thanks! So atk interval is "default attack per second" while aspd is "i fuck up your default"

[limpid siren]

something like that

[limpid siren]

post your squad so khant can help you

[shell arch]

Thanks chat, I've learned a lot today

[sly pivot]

im not gonna help!!

[smoky halo]

amigo on his way to become ak pro player

[shell arch]

Wouldn't it be inconvenient i forgor all of this the moment i leave #strategy? :clueless:

[sly pivot]

but a good question to ask when u mod/mod3 something is whether the op is usable without it

tbh

and if it is usable u just stick with no mods

[sly pivot]

to be optimal

[green gazelle]

My squad

[sly pivot]

dont u just typhon s3

[shell arch]

Ngl that sounds like anyone but hellagur

And rosa probably

And bagpepe first mod1

[sly pivot]

rosa mod is a trap

this whore is useless

i regret rosa mod3

she does NOTHING

[deft badger]

at least u guys use a brain which i don't have, looking at chong mod gives 45atk equals 45 lvlups + i get 10aspd... (me) i like chong in some content so he is getting it, even if it would be just stats i am in for it 🫡

[shell arch]

Probably also mudrock module?

[sly pivot]

i would do mud mod if i actually use her

[green gazelle]

Same I also did myrtle my first op to have a mod lol

[sly pivot]

where u kill his p1

[shell arch]

Myrtle module is

Bad

^the guy who mod3 myrtle

[sly pivot]

cause mlynar wipes this stage

[wicked viper]

i assuming no mastery somehow

[green gazelle]

Nah could not even dent the boss hp lmao but when it walk on mylnar range first phase gone but the boss just walk into blue box

[wicked viper]

cuz typhon doesnt even have mod

uh

[smoky halo]

use the vent to reduce boss def

[wicked viper]

use heatvent to beam him up

[sly pivot]

typhon will kill the boss when he reaches the blue box anyway

[wicked viper]

well

[sly pivot]

actual 100k per minute mf

[wicked viper]

typhon with investment

[green gazelle]

Where to put all the dps

[deft badger]

w8 what? vents reduce def?

[sly pivot]

wait

[smoky halo]

m0 mod0?

[wicked viper]

that typhon doesnt have mod

and prob no mastery either

i prob suggest borrowing as usual

[smoky halo]

just tell him to stop being poor and max his ops

[wicked viper]

afaik

[sly pivot]

alright lemme find thr map

[wicked viper]

typhon need m3 and mod1 at least to get 100k total dmg

[green gazelle]

My only ops that have masteries are myrtle with S1 m3,gg S3 m2, and penance S3 m1

[smoky halo]

-70% def and atk

[sly pivot]

actually ss the map

[tepid sigil]

It's on the boss desc

[sly pivot]

so i can doodle on it

ill tell u where to mlynar

[scarlet mortar]

you should hijack storn's channel for a month

see if anyone notices

[sly pivot]

look rosa does good dmg

shes aight

but

i also use mlynar

[sly pivot]

so she actually does nothing

[scarlet mortar]

mlynar brainrot hack working 2024

[sly pivot]

i draft her in is4 and want to kms

[smoky halo]

doesnt rosa deal more dmg against cliff compared to mlynar

[scarlet mortar]

p2, p1 mlynar owns

[deft badger]

i should read descriptions probably
ty for the info anyway

[sly pivot]

mlynar this way

[wicked viper]

hmm

[sly pivot]

and leave clip on like 1 hp

and u setup for phase 2

[wicked viper]

i wonder if penance can just solo left lane

because heat vent

havent tried

[deft badger]

left side doesn't do much dmg anyway

[sly pivot]

phase 2 u do this

when vent activate u press s3

and u kill him

well not rlly

cause ur mlynar is prolly bad

so u point other dps too

like typhon

[fierce tendon]

Just spam on vents, forever debuff to clip

[void terrace]

Use golden glow

[smoky halo]

oh wow an ifrit tile

[void terrace]

She targets the left lane most of the time

[wicked viper]

i prob consider borrowing suzuran? for this

[void terrace]

Just destroys all enemies along it

[sly pivot]

why suzu

[wicked viper]

or more dmg

[sly pivot]

his team can beat it

[wicked viper]

[sly pivot]

unless to make it easier

[deft badger]

or just put spalter in to his face and watch his suffer

[sly pivot]

but

just borrow 90 s3m3 mlynar

at this point

[wicked viper]

im skeptical about low investment mlynar

ye

[sly pivot]

to one cycle

[wicked viper]

just borrow a maxed one

[shell arch]

Take an example of chungus s3m3 case

590 base attack + 60 trust bonus + 45 from mod3 base attack
He will have 695 attack.

Now how to calculate s3m3 skill dmg:

695 times 380% = 2641 physical attack

Reduce it by:
Enemy def
Enemy reduce dmg taken modifiers

Amplify it with:
Fragile
Chungus first talent (165%)

Cmiiw

[sly pivot]

mlynar wipes half the map and cliff

[smoky halo]

all u need to do is to mald spec s2 timing not that hard

[sly pivot]

[deft badger]

he wasn't moving anyway

[shell arch]

Looking at that, it also explains why chungus benefits from atk buffs since every extra atk he own gets multiplied a lot of atkscale

[smoky halo]

its 0 dmg bc the enemy ur fighting is gardener

[fierce tendon]

Mlynar is eating enemies on the right side while charging the vents, i use typhon and yalter to dmg clip on the vents

[shell arch]

Me and my 0 runs of is4:

[sly pivot]

ill draft chungus for ed3

[smoky halo]

gardener is execalt event boss

[sly pivot]

and use s1

thoughts?

this sounds more cooked than eben carry

[shell arch]

Oh right that wanker who can't be attacked

[smoky halo]

yes

[sly pivot]

gardener is also ed3 stage name

🤓

[wicked viper]

that prob work

[smoky halo]

but the ed3 boss isnt named gardener 🥱

[sly pivot]

how about i smack you!

[drowsy jewel]

what is a black hole gardening for

[sly pivot]

u think black holes cant have hobbies?

[smoky halo]

its farming ur op's corpses

[drowsy jewel]

🤔

[sly pivot]

u shud be ashamed for being so narrowminded

[deft badger]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfUYBc-1BGw&ab_channel=Sciel

[drowsy jewel]

i am now ashamed

[shell arch]

I just calculated it's 4075 vs 4357 dmg, modless vs mod3 p1

It saves a lot of mobile data by doing the calc by yourself

Or bothering other people by making them do the calc for you

[scarlet mortar]

inb4 they post ss from viktorlab

[sly pivot]

what baffles me with this video is how he didnt use autoplay so the talent 1 rng is seeded