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limpid siren
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this is not new

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the only time this isn't true is when you yourself are new to the game

glass monolith
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But i will take it over fucking HE, constant 25% DP down, constant 20 DP taxes or civs commit pro civs move, rock managment, enemy steal DP on hit management, invisible fucking enemy spawning in middle of stage surrounded by no deploy tiles

limpid siren
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and ill equipped to handle anything

waxen swan
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Nah man this one was not interesting

limpid siren
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name the last interesting set of normal stages OctaviaYawn

waxen swan
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Eben gimmick was nore exciting

weak gazelle
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oh yeah igneus
which ops are considered good opener at IS#4
so far i only discover kaze as solid one

limpid siren
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not event gimmick, normal stages

waxen swan
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Exe alt

limpid siren
limpid siren
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boss stage was completely solved in HE

weak gazelle
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in a 5* ops world

waxen swan
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Greyy alt

glass monolith
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Oh and don't forget summons random enemy skill

limpid siren
weak gazelle
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greyyter huh
idk, not e2 he shit as opener

limpid siren
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i haven't pushed very high yet, but for the moment you can kinda just run block count + aoe

limpid siren
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doesn't make the stage any less solved

weak gazelle
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or maybe i got spoiled too much using greyy at e2 all the time
that his e1 feel so awful

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i try leizi opener but dp wise not favor her

limpid siren
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my bigger issue with e1 greyy is that he fucks up your anti-air growth

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sniper/medic squad should be nice with him though

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to get that instant e2

waxen swan
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There simply no optimal 5* opener

limpid siren
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blatant lie

weak gazelle
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nah
5* opener is consist of 2 ops
unlike 6*

astral cosmos
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I open at high diff with greyy2/lava/spot

works mighty fine

weak gazelle
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for low difficulty (below 9) yeah he fine as opener even at e1

astral cosmos
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have found success even above 12

weak gazelle
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ohh e1?

astral cosmos
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ye

limpid siren
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he should be fine up to d15

weak gazelle
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hmm
that above my expectation

limpid siren
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run s1 until you hit e2

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early floors favour s1 anyway

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s2 is dookie without mastery

astral cosmos
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then again mine gets huge value from e2 since he's m6 mod3 ReedBean
but e1 on f1 is still perfectly functional
f2 is okay too
if you don't get him at e2 by f3, yeah he's gonna have issues

weak gazelle
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it just that one spesific map would destroy greyyterReedBean

limpid siren
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which one?

weak gazelle
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stay away from stranger iirc

astral cosmos
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that's f5 anyway lol

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he also gets obliterated in collapsals' afternoon

limpid siren
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yea that's what i don't love about him as an opener

astral cosmos
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that's why I always grab Mint early whenever I can

limpid siren
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if he takes another sniper ticket, then he's putting pressure on your anti-air drafting

weak gazelle
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yeah its basically a whole draft issue
i never have a balance ticket up until now

astral cosmos
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I have tried a Sesa opening once

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ehhhhhh...

weak gazelle
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he dissapoint you again

astral cosmos
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i'd rather have greyy2 lol

waxen swan
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It's sesa what did you expect

weak gazelle
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:pepelaugh:

astral cosmos
weak gazelle
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if later then so many factor to count especially relic

astral cosmos
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if I can, I usually get him by f3 if I'm lucky with sniper vouchers
he obliterates the entirety of Nature's Wrath and it's funny

tidal sedge
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can't clear cv-8 (my suzu is e2 rn)

weak gazelle
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i can see even glaucus have a worth to draft if relics are favor her

astral cosmos
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I did try glaucus

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meh...

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I'd rather have Mint to clear stuff like collapsals' afternoon

waxen swan
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We dont really talk about ops value if they have good relic tho

astral cosmos
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I'm pleasantly surprised by Valarqvin though
she annihilates these drones

weak gazelle
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i use glauc there in fact and she work just fine

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thats why later fl is basicaly too many factor to value

astral cosmos
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then again, when I get a supp voucher, I use it on valarq/quercus/windflit

tidal sedge
weak gazelle
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quercus is weird as fuck but she function as intended and perfectly which is surprising

astral cosmos
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actually capable medic

tidal sedge
astral cosmos
tidal sedge
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but none of them worked

tidal sedge
astral cosmos
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Bison can, easily

tidal sedge
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i dont have her/him

weak gazelle
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borrow thypon then

astral cosmos
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then again it's consistent vent procs you need

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use Gravel or borrow Typhon

tidal sedge
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typhon works?

weak gazelle
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sorry im a bit dunce to give advice now so just straight up with that idea

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yes with s3

tidal sedge
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do i use it as soon as the boss spawns?

waxen swan
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The map is sinple tho just chock them on the box

tidal sedge
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what box dude 💀

weak gazelle
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yes if possible
bottom row is preferable one to deploy her

waxen swan
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There one way to the blue box just choke them there

tidal sedge
astral cosmos
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consistent vent procs nekogrin

tall cairn
vernal lion
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beehunter and gravel in a nutshell

astral cosmos
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I'm gonna try aosta later

agile perch
tidal sedge
agile perch
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Uh try placing your ops on bottom row cause the they don’t get hit by cliff

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But melee ops are a little harder

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You could

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Try and use flame tail dodge

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But that isn’t consistent

weak gazelle
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aosta huh
i wanna try him too but man his mastery gain are....

tidal sedge
weak gazelle
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:icant:

waxen swan
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It's not that good either if i remember

sullen rover
agile perch
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Yeah that is probably the easiest way to clear

agile perch
sullen rover
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yes

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it reduces his stats

weak gazelle
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yeah complete waste of resources mastery aosta

tidal sedge
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oh k

agile perch
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You could literally use castle 3 you don’t need to build anyone to hit the vent

tidal sedge
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kk

astral cosmos
tidal sedge
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who can tank him tho?

sullen rover
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just dont tank him lol

agile perch
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Without vent

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Almost nobody

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I think hoshi

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And penance if you stack insane amount of shield

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But it’s not worth at all

astral cosmos
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a strong defender with Roberta shields sip

glass monolith
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If he stack you to 0 DEF it is 7900 damage, almost H11 boss amough of damage

weak gazelle
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yeah thanks
add me arkhy#4845
sadly cant login game rn

agile perch
astral cosmos
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what skill do you want?

glass monolith
weak gazelle
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doesnt matter
IS will allow us to use all

astral cosmos
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I tried using Wind Chimes to tank it

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ehhhh KalSweat

glass monolith
astral cosmos
deft badger
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just surtr him

vernal lion
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boss will make a 1500-def-defender like a joke

agile perch
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Wait could nian tank him if she has all her shield and skill up

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Cause she basically halves his damage with the shields no?

weak gazelle
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well i just try everything
before i reach d15

vernal lion
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reduce his dmg with heat wave beam

spice forge
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That why specteris the real tank

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🤣

astral cosmos
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why would you even block him outside of vent range jerryclose

waxen swan
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Wait what his gimmick i just kill him too fast to know

astral cosmos
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because Bison stronk nekogrin

agile perch
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Average badknights player

weak gazelle
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va something (its hard to pronounce her name) seem nice to have for is#4
currently mastery her s2

astral cosmos
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i'll be working on her m6 soon
e2 80 alr done, but other ops' masteries are so expensive lol

weak gazelle
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the only thing i hate is the indicator for ele dmg is so small its hardly to notice

agile perch
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Gf says she gonna play ak just cause lilypichu vaSkadiDaijoubu SkadiDaijoubu

astral cosmos
glass monolith
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phase 2 also +20% ATK, and some other numbers i don't remember

astral cosmos
weak gazelle
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maybe they miss took with something on chest

astral cosmos
# waxen swan Wow that's boring

his gimmick is one shotting pretty much everyone on p2 skill lol
oh and when he kills someone with his skill, he refreshes the skill and teleports 1.5 tiles forward

waxen swan
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Not really impressive boss ngl

astral cosmos
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if the vents didn't exist he'd be so much more threatening

agile perch
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Yeah honestly cm should be remove vents

waxen swan
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That's for the trial navigation

glass monolith
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His EX CM stats looks promising, stage literally set up 2 vents overlapping for you to infinitely loop them

weak gazelle
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if they nerf vent just a bit cliff can be really dangerous

astral cosmos
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before I figured out my strat for CV-8, I tested out valarqvin s2 on him
she manages to charge it on him in one s2 sl7 activation
and yeah the -50% atk helps ReedBean
if vents didn't exist I'd've probably used her to help

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jess cat deployment go

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e0 knights eat

drowsy jewel
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E0 Jess SoraWow

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because

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riot shield works e0!

drowsy jewel
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🧎‍♂️

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anyways silence has been my main medic

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Alto

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wanna try querc

green gazelle
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Guys can you help me on this lvl

glass monolith
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Silence alter is my main source of sugarcoating "You really not suppose to tank that" content RedOmegaLul

green gazelle
sullen rover
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who do u have

deft badger
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mlynar doesn't kill him fast as surtr does xD

green gazelle
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Yeah i know massive skill issues tbh GraniCry

deft badger
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video not for u btw i was just kidding around a bit to see what aak and surtr do to him lol

sullen rover
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can you mod1 typhon?
would help alot

green gazelle
ocean ether
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Typhon S3, first phase and 2nd phase pos

green gazelle
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Pos?

ocean ether
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position

deft badger
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that's a m3 typhone i guess?

ocean ether
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M6 mod3 lvl 90, but should be doable at 60

grizzled otter
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you can duo cv-8 with kal and typhon (both m3 mod3 lvl60)

deft badger
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mine leaves him at 20% hp on m0

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p1

green gazelle
sullen rover
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this works

ocean ether
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gravel just used to block the 2nd mob after the boss so that typhon kills faster, even if you dont block she should still kill

sullen rover
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yato alt is on s1 and is purely to proc the heat vent

ocean ether
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typhon can 1 cycle his entire 2nd phase with 0 assistance

sullen rover
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you can place penance for more dps

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because ur typhon isnt mod1

green gazelle
deft badger
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time to s3m3 typhone i guess 😄

ocean ether
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sullen rover
green gazelle
ocean ether
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theres more than enough time to redeploy her so long as you dont make the boss use his skill and teleport

deft badger
green gazelle
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So about the vents when do I proc it so the boss won't walk into it

ocean ether
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dont worry about that if you using typhon lol

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she is just brain dead, press one button to down one phase

green gazelle
ocean ether
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but if thats case just add some DPS where my eyja is

sullen rover
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just use ur mlynar and gg KaltSip

ocean ether
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I mean, you arent really gonna be using just typhon and malding right? SkadiDaijoubu

green gazelle
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I think I know why I'm losing

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It's because I forget to wait for phase 1 to end and just activate gg and mylnar skill while exu and typhon should be enough I think (what do you think guys is this the reason)

ocean ether
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I dont know, I dont bother waiting lol

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I just brute force with kal + pozy + typhon + eyja

sullen rover
grizzled otter
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place here here use her s3 once the shield guys run out of heat bonus then end skill.
Wait for her cliff clip to start walking away from the blue circle then activate s3(you dont want her hit heat vents) and let typhon use all ammo
Activate her skill again when he comes out of tunnel
win

green gazelle
sullen rover
ocean ether
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see this for positons outside boss range

green gazelle
sullen rover
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is it tiles or radius

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??

ocean ether
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this is boss range

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why would u say lin s3

sullen rover
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so its tiles?

green gazelle
grizzled otter
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no?

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s3 has range increase

green gazelle
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Then I dunno

turbid badge
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that not the right pic

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thats default phalanax range

grizzled otter
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So i was right?

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or no?

green gazelle
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Lemme try again will update you guys

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idk i can test

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Brb.

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yes

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currect

sullen rover
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enemies range is tiles right

grizzled otter
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im right wooo

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heres a better

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hits carne but no reed

sullen rover
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is reed deployed later

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stronk

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he sits there

grizzled otter
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yeah cliff clip is lin s3 range DocSmile

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So it would be better

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to test cuz hes not traversing tiles

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jess strong

green gazelle
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Damn I need more damage the boss literally stops at 4/5 tiles before base

vernal lion
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meanwhile, boss died to Surtr

glass monolith
vernal lion
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gamble with Flametail

glass monolith
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Why bother, i know she will fail

foggy grove
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ye of little faith

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smh

glass monolith
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I have high faith in unlikely outcomes

green gazelle
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I just beaten it with a use of supp typhon

vernal lion
void terrace
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laughs in skadi

deft badger
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meanwhile i am struggling with mats again

latent anvil
deft badger
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-1 green name

glass monolith
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"who?"

copper comet
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Boss had me bamboozled at first ngl

neat thorn
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wth is 'clip' cliff ?? he oneshot all my team and tp everywhere ??

glass monolith
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Not everywhere, only toward blue box BlitzSmile

neat thorn
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xd same shit in the end I loose

glass monolith
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You need to either insure he debuffed by Vent to reduce damage, or do some cursed shenanigans

neat thorn
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ok so I need to active vent to kill him in second stage ??

glass monolith
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You need vent him to not die instantly as he use his skill

surreal star
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i thought vent increases his attack?Sheew

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or is it the aftermath you’re talking about

glass monolith
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Funny case when boss goes literally other way from entire event

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Other enemies: Gain energy which give +10% ATK per point
Cliff: Lose 70% ATK

neat thorn
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ok I'll try that then

surreal star
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oh so i’m just reading wrong

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i thought it said increase for some reason

glass monolith
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My phrasing would probably summon grammar squad on my location if i didn't use 20 layots of VPN anyway, not native English speaker

vernal lion
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defender in this boss stage belike

glass monolith
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I find it extremely dumb

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Boss who stuns whoever blocks him for 6 seconds

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fucking fails to move pass them

lethal dragon
deft badger
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who bubble ?

vernal lion
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yes

deft badger
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with her s2?

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forgot what it does again is it taunt?

vernal lion
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taunt + reflecting dmg

neat thorn
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got him, my man can't dash if he is stun by monst3r

vernal lion
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he's immune to mostly any kind of cc effect tho

deft badger
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ines can bind his a-

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btw Naga how do i stack of 500 ori in IS 😄

neat thorn
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dunno he seemed to stop walking when he killed monst3r, maybe it was something else

deft badger
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saw people have 500 already, what would be the fastest way to do..

vernal lion
scarlet mortar
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cliff is immune to all hard cc

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so lmao

deft badger
vernal lion
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yes

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there's always trader in floor 1, yea

deft badger
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don't even realize why is it such a big deal, but IS station told me to

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0 invested but am on D15 xD

vernal lion
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tbh, even if you collect as many of that thing, the trader will only accept a limit of that

glass monolith
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Binding of Isaac style crash after first donation when you have more than 2 ingots, every, damn, time

latent anvil
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pro

glass monolith
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Guess i will be forced to upload Quartzing boss on EX CM on youtube to fix content creators leaking NotLikeIfrit

lethal dragon
sullen rover
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oh nyoo

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😢 😭

latent monolith
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Throw more damage at the problem

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Oh wait the video is cut nvm

void terrace
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Hmmm how does nian fair against cliff? The hunters eat his attack and skadi plus another body can stall him in place

deft badger
latent monolith
glass monolith
void terrace
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Heh nice

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Gonna try with eunectes to spawn camp the boss

vernal lion
latent monolith
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I went to the stage to do silence alter's module mission and forgot to bring silence

void terrace
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Damn this boss theme ranks up there with SN and IS themes

void terrace
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And GA

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It's just bops

karmic glade
latent monolith
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for the latter I just farmed the event

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This event store is nice, I needed t4 rocks and grindstones and it has both

glass monolith
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Well you planned ahead if you bring her to spam S3 HellaKek

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I did event first and then went for side bullshit

latent monolith
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I already knew how I should beat the boss so

glass monolith
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You knew how

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And i just have concept of "Nah, i'd win" and Quartz with all tools to make her tank HellaKek

vernal lion
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boss shoots harder, beat drops harder

latent monolith
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I mean I did the same thing

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but instead of quartz it's silence alter

glass monolith
latent monolith
glass monolith
latent monolith
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silence S2 is just so short I find it annoying

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S3 lasting a full minute is nice even without the invulnerability

glass monolith
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I know, but at least it is almost as fast to return

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To block often nukes

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Like H12 boss global bullshitium

latent monolith
glass monolith
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In pararrel universe Aak die to Mlynar reflect

void terrace
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Oh shit you can pennance the boss

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Also super cool interaction with ejalter and jessalter

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Eyjalter s3 increases jessalter shield HP too

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5k hp shield when eyja s3 skill is up. Never realized HP buff also affected summons

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Pretty neat

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A lot more value for it's 50 second duration

vernal lion
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it says friendly units, yea

steel verge
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anyone knows how to complete the heat surge medal?

scarlet mortar
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the CV-8 one?

steel verge
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yeh

scarlet mortar
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slap a vent 40 times

steel verge
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will yalter suffice?

scarlet mortar
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uhhh sure

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kroos works too

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literally anyone

glass monolith
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Literally attack vents, that's it

void terrace
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Yalter can cover 2 vents for like 5 hits each on one s3 or just spam s2

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Or just slap them

glass monolith
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It is hits, not activations

void terrace
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Ay

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In theory with nian silence mod 2 and eyjalter, pennance can get some stupid high Barrier to just curb stomp cliff completely

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I mean the rest probably arnt needed but

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Still it would be funny

void terrace
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Damn pennance really just destroys cliff

orchid talon
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Jesus clip hits like a truck

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One tapped Mlynar with eyjalter and silence s3 healing him lol

orchid talon
vernal lion
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ugh, just use Gravel !?

orchid talon
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Wouldn’t that be pointless cuz she’d get one shot and he’d just get skill reset anyways

vernal lion
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what skill reset?

orchid talon
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Clip resets his 6 shot stun thing when he gets a kill with it

vernal lion
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I'm talking about medal

orchid talon
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O

glass monolith
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Failing at understanding easy medal, just like Yostar fails to translate any complex medal HellaKek

void terrace
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I know I shouldn't and there are sooooo many better modules

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But.

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I really want to raise silence alter module for some reason

glass monolith
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I will do purely for me reasons

void terrace
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That 10% HP is just super valuable to ling summons and juggernauts who I love dearly

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But like I have blaze module and a shit ton of mod 3s I haven't invested in like texalter and yalter mod 3

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It's so tempting urgh

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I guess I'll settle for mod 2 silence alter

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6% HP and DMG reduction should be enough to keep my juggernauts kicking

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Is the module truly trash tier?

glass monolith
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Well 4 module blocks which are pain to get for +4% max HP which are like 60-200 based on operator hp etc

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If she get DR upgrade module is future i will cry in corner

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Quercus to blame with her infinite skill making her superiour when talk is about healable operators

void terrace
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I mean her mod 2 is like 6% already

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So I guess I'll just take that

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That's the equivalent gain of Nian y mod 3

dark violet
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how is this squad working? I do not know

deft badger
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@glass monolith do u have pluma? with mod

glass monolith
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S1M3 and maaaaybe with mod let me check

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I know i have Humus moduled

void terrace
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Holy shit

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The module at level 2 is pretty signinifcant

deft badger
void terrace
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That 6% extra HP is hell of a lot of barrier when multiplied by 300%

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Pennance just sneezes at the steam knight

glass monolith
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Only mod 1

deft badger
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yeah let me try

void terrace
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The best part is if her barrier breaks, silence alter keeps her alive long enough at lowe HP to get her barrier back.

glass monolith
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up

deft badger
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i hope she can solo all f1 maps xD

glass monolith
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Oh and it is only e2 60

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(why she is 60 DIE )

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mminus

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u been using ceibe?

glass monolith
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(This is mean for Jay, forgot to reply, me is avatar of LappDumb ) If you want to know why she is low on tier lists etc, is probably because most tier list based toward operators who can do heavy lifting without depending on owning/building someone else, so for people like us Silence Alter is much more OP, because we own, built those operators and most likely strong enough to handle any content so no harm done going after more niche approach to issues CeobeConfused

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hows kay

glass monolith
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I do no 6* in this event for now, Kay is fun when enemy is high def

lapis hornet
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whos low on tier lists?

glass monolith
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I don't know i don't do tier lists

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One of CMs during Chongus event was giving like risk 3 tier of DEF to enemy with highest DEF and like 10 RES. Ceobe were like 4 hitting them FrankaWheeze

lapis hornet
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ceobes okay she rarely feels like a standout tho even with mod3

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like cliff you can kill with eben typhon schwarz rosa etc

glass monolith
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I want to do EX CM is best way possible - No beams for cliff at all

void terrace
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I mean I feel silence alter is a little underated given how much enimity stuff she enables

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Inspiration affects her regen too, so combines with skalter you can easily get 150hp regen/s under 50% HP, as well as a hefty defence attack and shelter buff

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Lowkey makes me want to use hellagur, but potentially this duo of supporters can push zuo Le to the extreme

glass monolith
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Yea i guess she will be great assist for Zuo players who get anxiety from him being low hp

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But at same time him regening to 50% will be debuff to SP gain HellaKek

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of santalla

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ah yes my fav placement

glass monolith
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Module mission in 2023 - Kill Skullshatter
Module mission in 2026 - Kill Skullshatter of CV event

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map small -> santallastonks

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map bog -> fartoothfrancs

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🤑

glass monolith
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Enemy pathing confusing -> GGCat

dark violet
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map with melee tiles -> Dorothy Franks

halcyon adder
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Good unit

halcyon adder
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Killing very high def low to mid res elites or bosses

dark violet
halcyon adder
dark violet
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her skills all have different relevant uses at times

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mwynar is the one trick pony

halcyon adder
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So is degen

dark violet
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Ich breche degen

soft crystal
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I mean mlynars use isnt just s3. He also has a pretty useful taunt

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Degens use isnt also one trick

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Even though she only uses s3

dark violet
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My guess is degen's biggest use is going to be food for #arknights

soft crystal
#

She has stalling capabilities, pulls, burst with buffs, laneholding and invuln

astral cosmos
dark violet
#

does aak boost aspd?

astral cosmos
#

think he does

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angelina too

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but else idk i fogor

torpid depot
#

Looking for input on whether I should buy Saria with certs. I only have 200 yellow distinction certs. Any idea what might be coming next?

dark violet
#

do you need her

astral cosmos
#

what's your roster sip

torpid depot
#

Maybe. I have Murdock, horn as E2. Nearl and Penance (not raised).

dark violet
#

do you need her, and for what use

torpid depot
#

Not specifically ATM, but a strong healing defender can come in handy.

deft badger
#

a saria is always good to have

dark violet
#

do you want her then

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since you don't need her

deft badger
#

but i probably wouldn't take her in ur case

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with the ops u have atm

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would save it for some meta s-

torpid depot
#

That’s what I’m thinking. Save for a better meta op.

dark violet
#

would you say you've found an answer to your question?

torpid depot
#

Do we have any idea who will be in the shop next?

deft badger
#

no clue..

dark violet
#

just use yellow certs for permits

astral cosmos
#

we can only predict

dark violet
#

and pull on who you need when the banner happens

#

shopops is only really worth if you absolutely need that op

deft badger
#

when ops have a rerun are they in the cert shop?

dark violet
#

no, because shopop is about standard banner

#

so it's random for us

deft badger
#

well nvm just save it for now, reedic has a rerun soon

torpid depot
#

Ok thx.

deft badger
#

get permits or what ever

#

don't even remember the last time i saw a op to call worth it

dark violet
#

never for me

deft badger
#

actually i would buy surtr eyja xD

dark violet
#

pull amounts always help more for major events

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and while rng, can yield more than one 6*

torpid depot
#

I’m only L98. So I have bought a few ops including Bagpipe and Surtr I think. Meta ops.

dark violet
#

there was a time when they were the meta

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but there's so many good ops now that unless you're doing max risk challenges, no op is truly absolutely necessary

glass monolith
#

My is 118... Soon no more free stamina GoldenglowSad

deft badger
#

i think he did write something wrong now way his acc is 98 with 4 six stars

dark violet
#

wym 4 6*

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he only mentioned his 6* defenders

deft badger
#

i tought that are the only ops he has 😄

dark violet
#

ah, yeah, likely not

deft badger
#

well u asked him what do u have

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and he mentioned those 4

#

he has other ops on that lvl is probably stacked yes take saria if u are missing her because why not lol

dark violet
#

also another reason to not waste certs on her

#

she's a recruitment op

deft badger
#

something i would have done for saria xD

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saria suzu hoshi nightingale bagpipe schwarz if i don't own them i am going to pay those certs since i don't have better stuff to do with them anyway lol

dark violet
#

I'd probably buy dorothy again

#

and again

#

and again

crisp bolt
#

reject saria, get shu DocSmile

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also need to get that p5 dororat. Shame I'm too weak minded to do it

dark violet
#

p6

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there are no compromises

crisp bolt
dark violet
#

jerboa for life

wet cave
#

whats the condition for the event boss teleporting? ingame tooltip has no mention of teleport

glass monolith
#

Phase 2 skill - Kill operator or targeted operator retreated

wet cave
#

ok,so ig just blast him from range,is it 2 tiles tp? or 1.5

dark violet
#

wait he teleports?

wet cave
#

ye,in phase2

glass monolith
#

Dashes forward after spoiling your day

#

Oh and kill refresh his skill so it is ready again

dark violet
#

yeah, the refresh I had read, but didn't know it was also a dash

#

probably foiled him when I used splatter dollkeeper LappKek

deft badger
dark violet
#

yeah

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he's quite simple to block

#

well, it's easier if you use the vents

#

but dollkeeper might be the cheese way

#

or just use og specter and laugh

#

specterminator at it again

deft badger
worldly stirrup
#

I use rosa bind to stall him and activate vent at the same time

deft badger
#

is that arts dmg he does with that skill?

#

the ground thing

tall sierra
#

Snipe him with typhon

tall sierra
#

Each hit reduce ur ops def temporary iirc

latent monolith
flat sapphire
latent monolith
#

They do like 1.5k atk in NM or smth

feral sinew
#

This is my team on 2-10

peak cloak
feral sinew
#

A bit of both to be honest…

peak cloak
#

ic

feral sinew
#

The caster leaders keep destroying my right side

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And ss does the same to my left

vital arrow
merry narwhal
feral sinew
#

Wow!

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Thanks I’ll try that rn!

merry narwhal
#

Amiya skill 1

peak cloak
#

dig Melanite out, this stage has a lots of high def mobs

merry narwhal
#

melanite is for the casters to the left of liskarm

vital arrow
#

Id probably use like kroos tbh

merry narwhal
#

i didn't see kroos in their team

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i just took what they have leveled already

vital arrow
#

They probably should level kroos in that case

merry narwhal
#

you can also put La Pluma on the tile below Liskarm to handle the casters

deft badger
#

ty anyway

feral sinew
#

It worked! Thank you so much!

limpid siren
#

💪

merry narwhal
#

let's gooooo, gj

deft badger
#

if he is melting my team on cm, probably time to dust of stainless and lock that guy in place then

feral sinew
#

Actually never mind it worked in practice and then worked none of the times I’ve actually tried it XDD

vital arrow
#

?

#

So it didnt work

feral sinew
#

No

vital arrow
#

What failed

feral sinew
#

Hmmm, I think it’s ss that keeps melting luskarm

vital arrow
#

Use gravel and bait the ranged attacks

feral sinew
#

She also sometimes gets passed by light enemies

vital arrow
#

Then you dont have enough damage, get more dps

feral sinew
#

Oki!

vital arrow
#

Raise kroos or steward

deft badger
#

borrow texas if u want

deft badger
#

she will solo him

#

e1s2

foggy grove
#

you can also opt not to block ss,let him circle around
pelt him with ranged attacker

feral sinew
#

I see

deft badger
#

-if they s- on me for telling u borrow then they are in the full right to do, u should learn to deal with the stuff u are facing

but!
u wanna get right now as fast as possible to 3-8

#

Open IS do monthly squads e2 a six star u will have plenty left for a other one and do the event (clear event shop)

foggy grove
#

his ranged attack is easier to deal with since it's only like a quarter of his attack
ranged bait can take it

deft badger
#

which is more important then learning how to play right now since u are on a time limit when it comes to the event shop

feral sinew
#

THANK YOU SO MUCH YALL ARE AMAZING

tropic valve
limpid siren
#

wtf self promotion

latent anvil
#

reported. enjoy your ban

limpid siren
#

wgz where is your self promo

latent anvil
#

...

limpid siren
#

let's get a 2 for 1 special going

tropic valve
#

so true

latent anvil
turbid badge
#

santalla sss fun

rain leaf
#

is coldshot worth getting the tokens for?

limpid siren
#

sure yea, purely because if you're still playing when the event reruns, the pots from that rerun shop can be converted into 5 gold certs each

#
  • 10 from getting the dupe coldshot from cv-5 AmiyaThonk
rain leaf
#

ah ok

#

is coldshot like a good operator to use in general though?

tidal sedge
#

mid

limpid siren
#

not mid

#

bad

#

her kit is awkwardly put together and struggles to deliver good damage output

#

the 6* of her archetype, ray, is coming the next few months or so and has a much better kit

limpid siren
#

Idk my mlynar is e0

glass monolith
#

Mlynar is +400% ATK
Ray is 450% attack scaling DIE

tidal sedge
#

I should try Coldshot soon

limpid siren
#

I can put mine on support if you want

#

M3 is done in like 5h

tidal sedge
#

Sure. Though finding one shouldn't be too difficult either

#

New ops tend to be easy to find during their debut event. Though afterwards they become scarce if they're not good

#

Despite her mechanics being somewhat similar to mystics whom I adore, I don't feel too excited about her kit. Which is why I haven't used shop mats to raise Coldshot myself. Not yet at least.

limpid siren
#

She lacks the rhythm most mystics have

#

Instead you end up feeling sad while watching as she pisses away her ammo

tidal sedge
#

But I've also been wrong a lot lately on how I expect ops to feel/play. So she deserves an honest try at least.

limpid siren
#

I’ll try her more seriously when m3 is done

#

So far i’ve been mean to her

tidal sedge
#

The different rhythm to mystics is a good point though.

limpid siren
#

I find it frustrating

#

Because they already went through this with mystics, who each have a way to manage their charges

#

Unironically coldshot - and hunters as a whole - should have had an archetype specific s1

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Like mystics do

#

Basically a force reload

signal lichen
#

who needs to reload if everything dies in 1 clip - ray

limpid siren
#

Ray

#

Ray still needs to reload

tidal sedge
#

Ray's reload in s3 means you barely care about managing ammo prior to using it

limpid siren
#

Exactly

tidal sedge
#

That's a big deal

signal lichen
#

makes its a weird kit imo

#

if you dont have to manage the ammo

#

which seems to be the point?

#

well yeah you have to manage it but not heavily

limpid siren
#

Mystics have tools to manage their charges

tidal sedge
#

Her ammo count when you pop s3 does affect how many shots she gets off during s3. So there's some effect. But 9 shots is usually enough

limpid siren
#

Passing the buck to the player for managing coldshot’s ammo just makes her a weak unit, not an interesting one

tidal sedge
#

Or so it seems

limpid siren
#

Iris’ rhythm for s2 makes her an interesting unit, while also giving the player some control on how she performs

signal lichen
#

i noticed clodshot also has slow in her kit which not saying may is the same thing or anything but i have a raised sniper that slows

#

well tbf

#

snipers in general

#

cuz the class is so crowded

#

so its a issue that mutiplies on itself

limpid siren
#

The slow feels a bit tacked on for coldshot yea

tidal sedge
#

Hm. Only 1 second of slow. I would've expected a bit more given Ray s3 is a gapless bind. 6* privileges ig

limpid siren
#

They just lowballed coldshot AimiCry

#

I’ll still use her sometimes ig

tidal sedge
#

Yeah. Ray's design seems very much HG trying hard to make a hunter appealing

limpid siren
#

Tbh i think coldshot suffers for a lot of the same reasons that melanite did

#

Linear range on a ranged unit is bad, and neither of them are strong enough to surmount that drawback

signal lichen
#

thats the thing tho

#

shes a 6* so she has

#

extra tools to get around everything

#

ammo from s3

limpid siren
#

Yea

signal lichen
#

extra summon for presudo global range

#

like

#

huge damage mutipliers also

tidal sedge
#

That's been 6* design for quite some time now. Recent designs have just been more upfront about it

limpid siren
#

But the baseline for hunter is a slightly longer lord range, so it’s probably just a dead archetype if you’re not a 6*

signal lichen
#

yeah

#

it just means the class itself yes ofc it matters but not by a lot because its another huge nuke sniper

opal kiln
#

me when 5* is half assed prototype then 6* is broken

#

almost like they did this 500 times

limpid siren
#

i don't think it's that simple this time

#

the archetype is fundamentally flawed if they're not going to standardise a way for hunters to manage their ammo

#

and it's weird for them to get this wrong after consistently applying this rule for mystics, regardless of rarity

deft badger
scarlet mortar
#

she doesn't, the capybara is locked to her base range

deft badger
#

how she shooting outside her range with it

#

i thought its global then

scarlet mortar
#

it extends her range but can't move outside it

#

her skills also expand her range to allow more tiles for the capybara

deft badger
#

ahhh ok

#

stupid me, i thought u put that little dude just somewhere she shoots till it is up

glass monolith
vernal lion
#

I actually have fun with this boss lmao

glass monolith
#

Why it is only E1 Manticore DIE

#

Next you will tell me you discarded flowers for her in RA1

vernal lion
#

ok I will try Mayer to nuke Cliff

glass monolith
#

Incoming Naga tries to activate skill but it was poorly timed with Cliff skill and all dogs get stunned and don't explode

#

I am still salty from every time Meebo got stunned in IS3

vernal lion
#

nah I have known that

limpid siren
glass monolith
#

Btw i read silence alter module lore... FrankaWheeze

somber mist
#

Zem I'm struggling with 6-5 for having no e2 defender JessNotLikeThis

glass monolith
#

e1 max defender might sugarcoat it, just need medics in time

#

6-5 is "that" funny spear throwers map?

peak cloak
#

u can share pressure from throwers to two defenders
then use 1-2 medic (idealy perfumer to heal your defender)

vernal lion
#

@glass monolith

#

it's ~11k dmg per meebo

glass monolith
vernal lion
#

yea

glass monolith
#

Who would win: 11232 DMG or Quartz

somber mist
#

Lapp support 💀

noble pewter
scarlet fulcrum
#

Better farm event node imo

#

Also u leaked

somber mist
vital arrow
#

You're better off developing your roster for now imo

scarlet fulcrum
#

this guy skipping event shop smh

vital arrow
#

Unless you like malding stages

#

And theres an event ongoing

#

So you might wanna prioritize that

somber mist
#

Hella bought everything for level up tho

vital arrow
#

Materials

somber mist
#

Ye I need to e2 someone

#

My problem rn is money and operator exp can't even lvl 60 someone

vital arrow
#

Build your base

somber mist
#

Doing atm meh

vital arrow
#

Then you should focus on building your base instead of doing random stages ReedBean

#

Clearing with 2* is just a waste of sanity

glass monolith
#

^

#

You will return anyway to spend as much sanity to get 3* for Originite to waste on skins to use for whatever reason you have

vernal lion
#

actually, I could just use Eben

#

10k dmg per meebo

#

EX boss has 65k hp, EX CM boss is 78k hp

limpid siren
dusty cedar
#

looks like saria commanding her robodog army

#

straight out of an anime battle

latent ermine
#

Any tips at early game? I’m stuck at chapter 2 part 1 (after the evil thing)

dusty cedar
#

build your base! you get cool free stuff

vital arrow
glass monolith
# latent ermine Any tips at early game? I’m stuck at chapter 2 part 1 (after the evil thing)

Early game you will suffer, nothing new for characters upgrading games.
Low rarity units can be good (Kroos damage go hard, defenders still block, Steward gains talent to focus highest DEF in range and in this game high DEF often means low RES) - also first promotion for 3* don't need chips farm.
About half of 5* units have too niche uses to invest into them.
Leveling skills on operators matter (More damage / Faster activations / Pushers like Shaw gain push force at specific level allowing to perform push on more heavy targets).
Level of friend support characters is capped by your highest promotion in squad. Second promotion for 4* operators are MUCH cheaper to get access to friend support anything.
Event currency gained at rate 1 sanity spend doing them = 1 event shop currency. So you can auto stages you can beat to get LMD and EXP or/and first promotion sniper chips for boost in progress.
Base is big part of passive income of LMD and EXP in this game.

latent ermine
glass monolith
#

Min maxers on #r-i-i-c will give better guide on base, but basics - you don't need more that 2 trade posts, you won't produce gold for it at fast enough rate, there is set up using 2 power plants instead of 3 (2-5-2, 2 trade posts, 5 factories, 2 power plants), sacrificing levels of base stuff for extra factory which give more income as long as you manage operators running them compared to 243.

waxen swan
#

243 are for lazy people

#

Like me

glass monolith
#

Me trying to justify 243 with 40% trade post Archetto

waxen swan
#

Make it 252 you lazy

warped smelt
#

i can't clear this stage with this squad

noble pewter
foggy grove
#

you have mlynar and typhon

#

run aspd,freeze,stun car

warped smelt
#

Okay

foggy grove
#

something like this works

#

typhon instead of stew

warped smelt
#

Thanks

warped smelt
glass monolith
#

Car set up issue? CeobeConfused

#

Check modules, need stun on hit and cold 5 sec at least, -50% CD, autosend and heal for QoL

scarlet mortar
#

iirc you need to desync the cars if you're using the auto chip

warped smelt
glass monolith
#

don't tell me you died to first enemy HellaKek

warped smelt
#

10

foggy grove
#

-20 cd is enough so to not burden your dp

warped smelt
#

I hate this enemys

#

Anyway thanks for helping

foggy grove
#

did you clear?

warped smelt
#

no

noble pewter
# warped smelt Can we use chen alter

anything that can hit air n kill boss shud be fine, then take out the robot lifeguards, every other enemy should die to cars if u set up correctly

warped smelt
#

and Qiubai skill not enough

#

maybe i don't do

glass monolith
#

#strategy message M3 Module 3 Pozy solo EX CM minimalist low quality because anything better will explode on trying to be discorded

foggy grove
#

he is truggling with the mobs

#

not the boss

#

give him crash course RedOmegaLul

lapis hornet
#

sounds like a job for a dalao

#

like zuoless

#

sadly I can't help I'm no good with ex8

turbid badge
#

santalla just budget gnosis

#

for sss

#

gnosis is just too good

latent anvil
#

teta pro

#

jessica m9 or no

turbid badge
#

i honestly would

#

But broke wgz

#

s1 sounds fun

#

s2 funny quaso

#

s3 funny general skill

latent anvil
#

wtfart broke

#

no me

cyan gorge
#

S2 is hilariously fun in IS4

warped smelt
#

And texas alter works in this stage

#

But not enough

foggy grove
#

you can do this
the timing is less tight since using -50 cd

#

that ely is m0

novel pivot
#

I just remembered

#

Shamare exists

#

Cliff's gonna get doll'd

foggy grove
#

if your mlynar is potato,you can borrow poze to helps

glass monolith
#

EX CM exists, you gonna get shoot HellaKek

novel pivot
#

Just stack dr

lime tinsel
#

What operators is good against new event boss? Arts or phys ones?

#

2nd form like not feelings any phys/arts damage

scarlet mortar
#

both phases have 45k hp 60 res, def goes from 2.5k -> 3.5k

#

you're supposed to debuff him with the vents so he loses 70% of his atk and def

#

if you aren't it's either an arts fest or even more phys, as per usual statchecking rules

lime tinsel
#

I see

marble nebula
#

supposed to abuse the particle accel and thats where you nuke him

#

also be mindful of where you place your nuke

#

the boss has quite a range and his ability is nuts if it manage to kills your operator

glass monolith
#

Damn i just did math again and my Quartz will survive EX-CM no issue, i F'd up damage reduction math LappDumb

soft crystal
#

🍞

warped smelt
#

if i keep trying i crush my phone

vernal lion
#

arts tho

#

boss only getting weak when he got hit by heat wave vent

soft crystal
#

60 res aint too bad for cucombe

glass monolith
#

Defenses are fun thing

#

Too much defense - your most OP operator does 100 damage per hit
High RES - don't care half of arts damagers has inbuild res reduction/ignore

#

If situation is hopeless throw Haze at it

vernal lion
#

60 res for a boss is kinda decent

warped smelt
#

i kill the new boss with surtr with healing eyja and ptilopsis

vernal lion
#

look at mobs in chap9

#

we have melee op and ranged op,
now it's time for aerial op

sly drift
#

I heard there will be no endspeaker on cc#2

#

Im sad

glass monolith
#

Endspeaker is bubble guy?

#

Oh wait you mean boss

sly drift
#

Are they planning to not add any boss to future cc

glass monolith
vernal lion
#

imagine endspeaker in cc2

glass monolith
#

I doubt they will never use bosses. Issue is newest bosses need to be cut down to 33% to work with risks otherwise they will just end you HellaKek

sly drift
wicked viper
#

endspeaker is still vulnerable to a lot of CC

#

so unless they add a risk that give him CC immunity

#

its gonna be another stall fest lol

glass monolith
sly drift
vernal lion
#

those shits hit like a truck

glass monolith
#

and die to Lunacub in event HellaKek

#

I almost did that one cursed SN S stage with Silverash S2 for reveal + Lunacub, Silver dies in end

scarlet mortar
#

btw for some reason idt i've seen a silence immunity tag

glass monolith
#

(Me trying to decode "idt") FoliWorried

scarlet mortar
#

i don't think

glass monolith
#

So uh.... It means there is silence immunity tag or no MudrockNaruhodo

sly drift
#

I don't remember silence immunity. It just that some skill can't be silenced

glass monolith
#

Not native english so i fail to catch meaning sometimes

vernal lion
#

ok there's mspd risk

glass monolith
#

If SN piss guy get silence immunity and + weight risk - we fucked

vernal lion
#

beginning with a map that enemies just camping you sounds like you will need a proper order to kill each of them

peak cloak
#

hey Zenith, do you have Rosa? if yes, can i borrow her with s3m3?

#

my rosa friend is gone kekw, within hours

sly drift
glass monolith
#

I don't recall if i did r22 or r23 on cc9 FiaDed

#

Egg range 1 only because range 2 was killing Fia HellaKek

sly drift
#

Did only 18 risks RedOmegaLul
That cc just make me really don't want to think

vernal lion
#

tbh all of seaborn mobs are fucking annoying

#

IS3, SV, SN

sly drift
vernal lion
#

egg range risk

sly drift
#

Hoo

glass monolith
#

CC9 cheat sheet for egg fart

#

Red is guarantee, yellow is based on egg location on tile, green is safe

sly drift
#

So what strat do you think best for new cc2

turbid badge
#

cc2??

#

for cn?

glass monolith
#

Don't know, don't care, ask in 7 months HellaKek

sly drift
#

We have Ela and Shu, Zuo le

turbid badge
#

Shu

#

Shu gonna carryo

#

Ik she gonna cook

vernal lion
#

you need to kill the dodging mob first

sly drift
#

The trail guy basically force you to play art damage isn't it

vernal lion
#

yea

#

I doubt that you will need Nian s2 again

sly drift
#

Shit gonna be hard. This cc will rely hard on art damage.

#

I'm thinking about Reed, Surtr, Saria, Shu

#

Maybe literally lappland

vernal lion
#

you only need Shu to teleport them

sly drift
#

She is one man stall. We WILL need her

vernal lion
#

the map looks separated

scarlet mortar
vernal lion
#

the mid lane is phys referred, while bot lane is arts

scarlet mortar
#

what can be silenced are all of their brand spreading and the predators' dodge

vernal lion
#

all the brandguiders just go bot

scarlet mortar
#

but there's no silence immunity tag, so either those things can be silenced but aren't worth

vernal lion
#

yea we don't have many good skills with silence

scarlet mortar
#

or they got modded with stealth silence immunity like CC#1 crownslayer

#

likely the former tbh

#

there're already prespawned brands anw

vernal lion
#

you will play most ranged op in this cc

scarlet mortar
#

yh bc the ground is lava HellaKek

vernal lion
#

the only melee I think about is Nian s2

scarlet mortar
#

step on it and try your chances at getting spewer rained

sly drift
vernal lion
#

nice lol

sly drift
scarlet mortar
#

also there's a tag that looks like you need block 3 to stop brand spreading

#

so double get owned

glass monolith
# scarlet mortar

Stainless +1 block devices save me.... Wait we don't get roomba buffs

glass monolith
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Manticore, i order you to sugarcoat

scarlet mortar
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direct all your complaits to this png

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be glad it doesn't say -3 bc then i'd read it as creep reduces your block by 3 RedOmegaLul

hardy fog
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for jessicalter
s2 or s3 m3 priority

vernal lion
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s3

jovial nest
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btw naga

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wanna see some EoE bullying?

vernal lion
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Saga has been replaced by Reedic

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smh

jovial nest
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Goes to show Reedic S3 is pretty good in making sure EoE gets the burn DoT due to the explosion chaining all the way to the boss

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also Ela's mod1 shows its insane flexibility

vernal lion
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yea, and the old boss getting powercreeped by new op

jovial nest
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still

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if you think about it

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EoE is still pretty formidable unless you do some specific stuff like the one in the vid

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welll

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at the very least defending the line is easy af with all the options

vernal lion
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btw I hate that Almond s1m3 isn't same as other puller op

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she doesn't get force 2 on her m3

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I think it's a penalty for her storing charge comparing to her 5 star rarity

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because Gladiia got that

gray stone
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I hate Mizuki I hate MizukiI hate Mizuki I hate Mizuki I hate Mizuki I hate MizukiI hate MizukiI hate Mizuki

scarlet mortar
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ending 4 or

gray stone
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Can't full clear slugs in 1 skill, literally shit

scarlet mortar
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ah bro is coping

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L

gray stone
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OD-8

scarlet mortar
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yh no those things evade ambushers

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gg

glass monolith
scarlet mortar
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sorry this game didn't get top sales, y* left it to the interns

gray stone
scarlet mortar
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LMAOOO

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i still remember bringing eyja and surtr to that stage

glass monolith
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"Do you grass? You will" - Shu

gray stone
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AoE Caster who?

scarlet mortar
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nah eyja S3

vernal lion