strategy

[spark sinew]

i doubt she tanks anything threatening head on still, for example

[quick pecan]

yeah 5* do have lower gains

and sometimes they make it worse by giving half of their mod stats to like hp / def when they’re offensive units

which ig is nice for some more bold placements where they just barely survive in a clear with that extra bulk

but that seems like a low op focus type of thing more than general use

[limpid siren]

[civic bear]

everything has purpose

trust

that extra hp def will allows them to survive a random nuke in the future

[full finch]

surely

[civic bear]

every numbers are well thought of

[weak gazelle]

@limpid siren
can i borrow your kirara?

[limpid siren]

@marble parrot

i don't have kirara raised

[weak gazelle]

ohh lol
i tho you were

[marble parrot]

add me

Fiammetta#2434

[weak gazelle]

ohh nice
wait a second

[marble parrot]

wat skill?

[weak gazelle]

sorry long
req sent
her s1

[marble parrot]

aight, gimme a sec to clear a stage to swap it

[weak gazelle]

np

[marble parrot]

alright s1 is up

🫡

[weak gazelle]

thanks

🫡

[weak gazelle]

lol
i fail
should bring meteorite instead of greyyter

[limpid siren]

surely it's kirara that's griefing you

[vernal lion]

this is why you should spawn kill the taxi first

you think it's easy until it ate up 3 block counts and also loaded 3 other enemies, while it is also a tanky shit

[weak gazelle]

nah
not that complicated

just testing around
kirara used to clear dying mooks

its favor arts anyway so yeah

guess brute force mid lane its the way lol

[turbid badge]

chong s2 fun

[limpid siren]

ttdodoifin

[turbid badge]

big tales

actually long

big i would've used tomimi

typhon, ho ol reed

was trying to compare

chong and lee tail longtoo

[lapis hornet]

okay typhon's p goated in sss

maybe she's not entirely useless after all pogu

[heady perch]

how I can improve my strategy in arknights? I started in MH collab and grinded hard until now, I only have completed the JT8-3 two weeks ago and my veteran friend said that was a lot of brute force, I suffered hard in the JT8-3 and my friend said that I would complete very much easy from the way I did, since my team is really strong. (now I'm in start of chapter 12, grinding OP this time)

my operators

my usual team

[deft badger]

it comes with time...
and maybe go in to IS

[heady perch]

I play IS while I'm without sanity or to farm some LMD

[lapis hornet]

better strategy just comes with more experience

when you have wider roster, borrow more exotic units

watch other ppl clear is also good for broadening your horizons

as much as following guides is mocked

like your friend probs knows better strats because he saw them online

after that it's trial and error 🤷‍♀️

don't leave your units at e2 lvl1 tho

that's pretty cringe

wait I just realized the message was from an hour ago the bro's probs gone now smh

[deft badger]

watching guides is more then fine

[lapis hornet]

also I have to say

brute force is just the simplest and most direct approach

when you're using 6 stars esp newer ones

nothing wrong with it honestly

[lapis hornet]

okay reed alt sucks for the miasma sss

[deft badger]

just got mine to e2

yesterday

she in training atm, didn't get to try her out don't even know where to start 😄

[lapis hornet]

I have her m6 but honestly haven't been very active in ak so haven't used her much

idk if she's good in is4 even

[deft badger]

saw people running her a lot

so i guess she is

[cyan gorge]

She’s cracked in IS4

[crisp bolt]

she's literally the most popular 6* op in IS4 right now

[deft badger]

i bet on exe...

[cyan gorge]

Exe is okay there but I found the things there to be a little too fast and his block too low

[deft badger]

early floors?

just use s2

i mean for now he is fine did play yesterday the entire day went from 0 to d9 for now he is fine

don't know how he is going to do later but he solos floor 1 and 2 easy some other maps later on as well

[lapis hornet]

yeah I kinda doubt exe's good

probs gets outstatsticked, can't be healed

[cyan gorge]

My 6* guard choices are just QB and Mlynar

Gavi if I don’t get a defender ticket

[deft badger]

skill issue

[deft badger]

my thought as well but really i didn't face any problems...

[ripe grail]

This is my roster rn, what ops should i borrow to get through is 4?

[spark sinew]

i see no reedic

so just borrow reedic

[deft badger]

i have to try reedic since even u are calling it

but with his team i wouldn't know how to do the kill on the boss, def left side and right at the same time 😄

[spark sinew]

even you?

[deft badger]

even me? try reedic or 0 plan how to do with his ops the kill and defending

[deft badger]

everyone does say start reedic kinda atm..

btw i am on a killstreak since d0 and i am at d11 now 😄

if it ends then because exe can't handle floor 1-2-3 on his own anymore

[spark sinew]

executor is still just a worse gavialter

although i have no experience with gator in is4, so idk which maps she's chessing

surely more than exec though

[limpid siren]

reaper opener has always been strong in IS

maybe not the best, but always strong

[void terrace]

I mean at nature 8 he worked as my opener

Reedic opener seems kinda risky tho

[limpid siren]

risky how?

[void terrace]

She doesn't exactly have the firepower needed compared to gavalter or ling

[spark sinew]

what

[void terrace]

Like I always save hope and take her later

[limpid siren]

[void terrace]

At e1

[spark sinew]

are you really saying ling e1 does shit

[void terrace]

Like at e2 she's stupid strong but at e1

[void terrace]

3 block

And range

Gavail is 2 block with range extension

[limpid siren]

interesting

[void terrace]

Not muuuuch better

But more reliable block

With Reed you are on guard and supporter

Which means midnight and orchid

[limpid siren]

i thought the classic pick was popukar

[void terrace]

Which arnt the best landholders and your betting on another guard to save you from the beast rush stage or the prisoners night stage

[spark sinew]

3 block where

[void terrace]

3 dragons

Each 1 block

[spark sinew]

..dude

[foggy grove]

reed takes popukar yeah

[spark sinew]

that's not 3 block, that's 3 1 block

[foggy grove]

that garbage finally see some use

[spark sinew]

very different, especially in f1

[foggy grove]

🤢

[void terrace]

True

Ling has carried me so far

I'll try Reed next run I guess

[limpid siren]

what floor is path with no end on?

[mossy ore]

wow ling

[void terrace]

Ling is starting to hit the wall at nature 9

[drowsy jewel]

f2

[void terrace]

She does ok in the first 3 floors but begins suffering hard on the last 2

[limpid siren]

hmm

[void terrace]

Still on nature 9 haha haven't gotten higher

Still with HP foldartals her summons are pretty lit

[limpid siren]

is there really a floor 1 map where 3 1 blocks != 1 3 block?

[void terrace]

I mean I just stack the dragons together and splitbox as much as possible

[spark sinew]

beasts awaiting slaughter?

[limpid siren]

how

[drowsy jewel]

ig there's beast? its easier with several blocks

[void terrace]

Plus you have midnight or popukar as well

So that's another 2 block

[drowsy jewel]

you can separate the map and th sheep aggro but

[void terrace]

True

[drowsy jewel]

really even 3 block is fine

[limpid siren]

none of the enemies are "needs more than 1 block" type enemies there right?

[drowsy jewel]

ya

[spark sinew]

ok let's start with basics

when you're saying 3 block

[deft badger]

don't know he doing actually really really fine, there are even some maps where i am happy having him with s3 i can let him shoot over walls in other lanes to kill some heavy stuff

[spark sinew]

people expect you to have something with 3 block
not something that

1. takes 3(4, actually) slots
2. has a consierable delay in reaching 3 blocks due to cd on deploy
3. costs quite a bit to reach 3 block
4. can run into problems with melee tiles available, especially with stuff like dominion collapse and shit

[long epoch]

Speaking of one block.

[limpid siren]

dominion collapse on floor 1?

[spark sinew]

so saying that e1 ling "has 3 block" is super disingenuous

[limpid siren]

i'm picking on you for this

[spark sinew]

we're not talking about f1 specifically now do we

[limpid siren]

which was probably a throw away comment

well

you were

so i am

???

[spark sinew]

and in this comment i didn't

[limpid siren]

that's just you shifting the goal post

[pure mortar]

Chatterinos, I need squad comp help for IS#3 when I reach jellyfish, what are a couple of ops that especially excel in that map? For Phantom's IS it's Fiametta to deal with right side orange casters, Suzu and/or Saria help slowing the boss down, Horn for right side too, etc...
What's the core for Mizuki's IS?

[spark sinew]

dominion comment was also the last

[limpid siren]

fine?

[pure mortar]

Stop having a tiff and help

[limpid siren]

no

[spark sinew]

what about other 3

[limpid siren]

i'm having more fun with this

because hauckindu wants to shift the goalposts

and i want to be annoying

[spark sinew]

you always are, even if you fail a lot about it, since you're not obnoxious enough

[limpid siren]

[spark sinew]

should be more insufferable in writing, like me

[limpid siren]

no you just sound young

dime a dozen

[spark sinew]

same thing, really

[pure mortar]

Stop engaging in erp and engage with me

[limpid siren]

i can't help you with IS drafting, i play 5* only

none of my advice is relevant

[long epoch]

I didn't play Arknights anymore so I'm just lurking.

[spark sinew]

typical green name

[long epoch]

Green names burn out faster than average name.

[spark sinew]

oh i missed it, because of shitting on ling

[spark sinew]

are you talking ed1 or ed4

because there's an actual jellyfish boss in ed4

but some people call ed1 jellyfish as well

[pure mortar]

Ed1, the boss who comes from middle top and spins around a bit

[spark sinew]

pop texalter on it and it dies

on higher difficulties you put horn below your blue box

pozy typewriter/shamare to reduce defense if you want, but not needed until d15

[deft badger]

how do i get those? what are contracts 😄

[somber stone]

Monthlies I thinks

[spark sinew]

if you want usual draft for ed1 it should be those from each class (casters are kinda deadge so mosti is just a pick against a certain f5 map and is used in ed4)

specs are very contested, and even more so in ed4
chalter>pozy if going ed4, NG very good pick if going into f6, basically mandatory in ed4 if you fight "fairly"

[pure mortar]

Much like Phantom IS, the first one, I assume a consistent way to get Ws on lower difficulties (ED1) is picking Medic/Sniper boost at the start, yea?

Make them cost less hope to recruit

[spark sinew]

mostly talking from d15 perspective been awhile, you can do without it on lower d though

medic sniper are strong ye
spec caster are stronger, assuming you have the roster

some may disagree

Mind Over Matter(MoM) is super strong if you have the units to abuse it (need maxed out squad MoM tree)

weird how igneus didn't apply for green name back tbh

he certainly is as useful as any of them, when answering q

[deft badger]

hahahhahaha

should i do bosky on floor 3 d11?

[somber stone]

Yes

[deft badger]

kinder scared they will melt me down 😄

[somber stone]

Trader bosky trust

[spark sinew]

then you didn't deserve to win

how rude, I'm gonna call the mods

[void terrace]

How far are you guys into is4?

Imma still at nature 10 T-T

[deft badger]

are u igneus??? dude called mods on me 2 times hahaha

[void terrace]

Just maxed the skill tree

Who's ingeus?

Oooh

[deft badger]

worst he even did once on minus/svb

[ebon ridge]

this look fine? i have backup in texas

im ready to nuke an architect

[somber stone]

I’d put mlynar infront of saria

Boss stays a bit further away

[ebon ridge]

ok

removed now i wait

[deft badger]

pfffttt... 8,4k lol

[ebon ridge]

ait this should be braindead now

thankfully thorns aint mandetory

i can auto it

[deft badger]

how much does perfumer heal with passive?
thinking if she would better to take in then eyja since i have relics that boost my hp to 85%

[spark sinew]

you don't do dailies 5times/week?

[somber stone]

Bruh why’d you use texalt, the casters die to mlynar reflect

[ebon ridge]

forgot he had that

[deft badger]

hauck since she heals % passive...

[foggy grove]

it's based on her atk

not of max hp

[deft badger]

isn't it %

ahh ok nvm lol

[foggy grove]

yes % of her atk

[spark sinew]

and they also had hoshi anyway

although it's on the bottom for some reason

[deft badger]

hauck like always waiting to lappdumb me, but never wants to correct me hahahaha

[spark sinew]

do you need block 4 on the bot 🤔

[ebon ridge]

think theyll fall

they fell

[spark sinew]

i lappdumb when it's apparent you just didn't read the part you're talking about

like perfurmer passive healing

[quick pecan]

cooked

😭

[ebon ridge]

i misplaced mlynar

restart

[somber stone]

[spark sinew]

what

[void terrace]

Oh noes he's facing backwards

Nah he's facing downwards

Should be good

[hardy fog]

how do i clear braving nature 2 and above

[spark sinew]

should be the same as you cleared previous 2

they don't really add anything afaik?

[hardy fog]

like it's so shit ngl especially that stage "don't trust strangers or smthX

[spark sinew]

not even stat boosts

[hardy fog]

the collapsal drones r really annoying if I don't have texalter

[elder hornet]

2 of them phase through rock

[void terrace]

Yes

[deft badger]

did panic for nothing, i nearly lost on that stupid laser map 1 hp left

but ok was able to restock

d11 done with the worst team i did ever have

[limpid siren]

Touched a nerve did i?

[spark sinew]

by pinging rn? yeah

[limpid siren]

I help when i can and won’t pretend to try when i can’t

[spark sinew]

i don't really care otherwise, it's just funny sometimes

[lapis hornet]

what does green name have to do with being helpful

many a green name can be pretty pepeg lul

[limpid siren]

That’s why he’s trying to rip on me

[spark sinew]

ok i know I'm in the wrong somehow

[lapis hornet]

did I miss some beef

[spark sinew]

my message got reacted with a crown emoji

[limpid siren]

No you’re fine hauckindu

Unknown however

Is a massive clown

[deft badger]

hahahhahaha

[limpid siren]

Strat was nice when you were gone

[deft badger]

its even going to be nicer when u are trust me lol

[limpid siren]

Can you google tl next time

So it makes more sense

[lapis hornet]

use deepl

I don't rly understand google tl most of the time

[deft badger]

dude getting insta mad hahaha

[spark sinew]

it's gotten better

[deft badger]

i mean everyone knows, i am lazy, i don't read, i am trolling, i am joking

call me a clown it fits

[spark sinew]

the ability to just dump an image and translate a text from it is really handy as well

[lapis hornet]

also tbh

I've known alsa for a bit now I think

and I've still never seen a content of his lol

at least not ak content

[deft badger]

but u are the only dude i saw complaining because he doesn't know what to do with his free time then s- on people in strat calls a mod on svb for writing some random stuff because it was a dead week

so for me u are the bigger clown here lol

[limpid siren]

[limpid siren]

i've seen some

i think most of his ak content is private at this point

[spark sinew]

secret archives

[lapis hornet]

dang

[limpid siren]

alsa has loads of cursed old shit

[lapis hornet]

I'm not in the cool kids club 😭

[limpid siren]

neither am i

[lapis hornet]

oh I think I vaguely remember some old stuff

[limpid siren]

yea

you were here for when he still chatted regularly

[spark sinew]

new players aren't allowed into secret clubs

[limpid siren]

alsa just doesn't play ak anymore

[lapis hornet]

I mostly watched him stream the other gacha idr the name anymore lol

the one he talked about all the time

[limpid siren]

aigis?

[lapis hornet]

yeah that one right

[limpid siren]

he said he might start playing again when lessing drops

or zuo le?

idr which

[lapis hornet]

isn't he 5* player

[limpid siren]

he just plays

[lapis hornet]

idk man

remember frazyn

I thought he was low rarity player turns out he was raising 6* in secret all along

I've never trusted green names since

[limpid siren]

frazyn is probably still in drails server

i bet he came back for is4

[lapis hornet]

wait is that server still going lol

oh yeah I saw him around here some time ago

was wild

wait was he ever in drails's server

dun remember seeing him there

[limpid siren]

yea he was

[lapis hornet]

dang

[latent monolith]

yeah

I come here requesting afk setup for the current anni

[wicked viper]

a lot of strats should work if ya have mlynar

because he just kill the top lane by himself from the reflect

and s3 should 1 cycle boss

[latent monolith]

The boss is that squishy this time?

What about the stun

[wicked viper]

uh

didnt notice it

because boss will cast the aoe before the stun

so if you kill the boss before the stun it shouldnt be a problem

so kinda pseudo afk

you only need to press mlynar skill once for the boss

but its much easier that way

[latent monolith]

Mlynar above the hole facing right?

[wicked viper]

i let him face down

because

uh

can you screenshot it

the map i mean

im in the middle of IS4 run

[wicked viper]

g9 face down

when boss die, will teleport down to G8

so if you have mlynar face right, he cant hit G8

lappland will be quite convinient for F8 as well

[spark sinew]

damn i should join

oh you meant you come here

[wicked viper]

horn is quite nice

[spark sinew]

not drails server

for stun just put lancet on c2/c3

and clump your other ops

[wicked viper]

i recall cars go like this

i run eyja on D10, face up

but i imagine any art afk works

[latent monolith]

I'm just thinking of something like this then

I could add horn

[crystal cargo]

I did this

Could be better if typhon was right tbh

[wicked viper]

mudrock isnt that good for top

because top is where the dodge enemies go

bottom is crocs

top is IC dodge

[latent monolith]

I mean she's mostly there for blocking

I don't really have arts damage to put there

[wicked viper]

no lapp?

[latent monolith]

Oh yeah lapp

[wicked viper]

well

lapp should be better on F8

also

you can run range dps on H6 as well

fiametta/typhon/w etc

mlynar will soak up all the aggro

[latent monolith]

honestly seems a little overkill but I'll take it

[long epoch]

I just use less 6* units. https://www.krooster.com/network/lookup/Alsagoz the last time updating this.

[tidal sedge]

Czerny is so funny here

Kills every caster with reflect without skill

[quick pecan]

rare astgenne s1 usage

[tidal sedge]

I still regret investing in it. But may as well minimize button pressing in an annihilation

[spark sinew]

casters are so weird

were they also that weak in actual event

[tidal sedge]

Yes

They have really low hp

[spark sinew]

dying to mly/czerny offskill is just shameful

[tidal sedge]

Their long range and sometimes being on banned tile lanes is what them annoying during certain IC maps

[turbid badge]

i used penut

[quick pecan]

they also attack a lot for a ranged enemy or maybe i just see so many of them spawn and feel like they do

but yeah they’re made of paper

[brazen parrot]

Guys if I get a caster voucher in Is4, what are some of the best casters to get?

[wicked viper]

mostima and lin usually

[brazen parrot]

Thx

[wicked viper]

hool if and only if you have weightless/levitate relic

otherwise lava/steward

[tidal sedge]

2 second atk interval is decently fast for enemy. But I think it's also them having a long animation so they don't move much between shots

[wicked viper]

red caster

[quick pecan]

you can also draft qani to cheese that ending the same way you use ho’ol iirc

but the timings are harder

[wicked viper]

5k hp 200 atk lol

they are just

fast

which is also why they die so hard to mlynar hoshi czerny

[tidal sedge]

Oh. I was looking at wrong data

[vivid rain]

Smh even liskarm can kill them easily

[tidal sedge]

1.5 second interval is very fast for enemy

[quick pecan]

the ranged tiles being split between two lanes kind of made me annoyed bc my platinum would be getting attacked by the casters when she could easily kill them

but nope prior enemies closer to blue box

[turbid badge]

typhon cracked

[tidal sedge]

They've more defense than melee shrimps too. Can't Firewatch them, and they outrange Insider

Funny

[quick pecan]

tymid

[turbid badge]

hey

[quick pecan]

this anni was pretty easy tbh

definitely easier than ashy marsh

[tidal sedge]

Yeah its really straightforward

[quick pecan]

it’s like hey bring aoe or arts and win

[turbid badge]

forgot typhon slowed enemies

bian status res clitch

[crystal cargo]

Should have just afked smh my head

[turbid badge]

im used to bena's tankiness

kaze doll frail tbh

what i learned, eben s3 needs masteries

lol

same with fartooth

feels bad to play w/o max cuz their aspd so slow every hit counts

esp fartooth when she wastes a s3 shot on like a sliver of hp

[humble trout]

I need panence, the boss killer

[atomic monolith]

What's the best start for the tactical squad starts?

Where the ops are e2 from the start

[vivid rain]

which tactical squad

[atomic monolith]

Any honestly

Assault, fortification, ranged and destruction

[wicked viper]

usually

guard/vg -> gavialt
spec/caster -> lin/dorothy
sniper/medic -> reedic
support/defender -> jessica alt

[atomic monolith]

What about for the other IS?

[vivid rain]

for each arcetype it's:
vg: ines (not recommended)
guard: gavialt (until degen release)
caster: honestly idk, prob gg/eyja
medic: reed alt
spec: honestly no one but texalt/spalter might just work
defender: horn

supporter is prob ling but this is only my opinion

and for sniper either chalter or typhon works

some of this are just my opinion tho so try which is better for yourself

[wicked viper]

GG is pretty bad for starter

eyja is very questionable later on

GG has no aoe burst to deal with the emergency f1 stages

[vivid rain]

oh right

uhh prob lin then

[wicked viper]

supporter can get arturia later on

which can function as dps, but supporter is dead in IS4 in general

[turbid badge]

ah no supporter carries/

?

[wicked viper]

technically ling

[turbid badge]

hows gnosis?

[vivid rain]

i used passenger for f1 once and he kinda works? honestly not recommended tho since his dp cost is augh and he kinda ass without god's hand

[wicked viper]

but ling fall off quickly on higher diff and later floor

[vivid rain]

gnosis is whatever really

[wicked viper]

lin is pretty ok for early emergency tho, since you can recruit kroos spot with her

[atomic monolith]

Gnosis damage where?

[wicked viper]

s2 can deal good aoe burst

[turbid badge]

is his s3 fast enough

to catch champions

[vivid rain]

should be, he cant clear prisoner emergency at e1 tho

[wicked viper]

i think aoe is mandatory to not die

even typhon start have to get lava since she just, die

[atomic monolith]

Damn IS for sounds brutal

[vivid rain]

if you use starter foldartal squad you can just go through floor 1 without entering any combat nodes trust

[foggy grove]

it's not really
prolly the best is so far

[dark glade]

or you can enter 3 bosky

[foggy grove]

you are more in control

no metastatic cringe

bosky is great

[vivid rain]

entering 3 bosky? imagine not fighting 3 bws emergency

[wicked viper]

me when SFS emergency

even normal ver is fucked

[vivid rain]

my ass entering collapsal afternoon emergency on slow enemy bosky :clueless:

[atomic monolith]

Then what's a solid start for IS2? I have a ton of mats to collect lol

[wicked viper]

pozyomka/gavialt

pozyomka cheese a lot of map and nuke all bosses

[vivid rain]

anyway shaw start for is4 is kinda cracked

s2 acts as true aoe iirc

[turbid badge]

no

wait shaw

[atomic monolith]

Doesn't shaw only push a max of 2-3?

[turbid badge]

she only pushes 2 lol

she doesn't have force of 3

in any of her skills

[vivid rain]

trust the s1m3 justification process

[atomic monolith]

Does Buffing Pozëmka buff her typewriter?

[tidal sedge]

No

[atomic monolith]

Can type writer be buffed?

[turbid badge]

yes

by relics

pozy level

pozy module

[tidal sedge]

Relics can. But otherwise it's tricky due to it being invulnerable, even to allies.

Invulnerable and mostly unable to be targeted, that is

[deft badger]

IS2 thorns thorns thorns thorns and thorns...

[atomic monolith]

Thorns is useless before e2 lmao

[deft badger]

assault squad but doesn't even really matter, grinded is2 in 3 days from lvl20 to the end with thorns got assault squad a bit later at 100 didn't change much anyway clear rate was over 90%

thorns surtr spot and a healer u don't need more to go for phantom

[weak gazelle]

yeah
apparently mid lane kill zone is a good idea

[deft badger]

new sss...

[glass monolith]

DUD

[foggy grove]

i saw egss

chain caster so they just shove all mobs that deal ele dmg on new sss

[deft badger]

the hell is that big fat train xD

[foggy grove]

do lighthouse next
it's fun

[vernal lion]

choo choo, mother f**ker

[peak cloak]

thomas?

[shell arch]

I saw that Thomas gif

Now i understand why squid left

[deft badger]

yeah me to was watching it for 30sec and i got dizzy

sry... hahaha

[shell arch]

Since no one's asking a question, let me ask a question

[deft badger]

squid left because he was getting to easy triggered and it wasn't just me lol

[shell arch]

Is croissant or hoshi better to tank against surefire 1hko hit?

[deft badger]

but i kinda miss him...

[heady perch]

For now I'm with lack of LMD haha, so I cant put all of them in 60 right now.
I only watch guides of stages that I already have passed and I watch some of operators showcases or nicheknights clears, in YT dont have so much videos about strategy otimization.
When I look to me when I started, I know my strategy is better than before, but isn't good yet

[deft badger]

btw not ignoring u, that's a question for naga svg or hauck i don't even know what u mean lol

[shell arch]

I know

Old strat usually came with an answer in like 15s

[lapis hornet]

man sounds boomer musta bee' way before my time

why don't you use mudrock tho

[remote perch]

Neither
Use Roberta

[lapis hornet]

otherwise just look at their dodge % weirdga

or spalter

[shell arch]

True!

Cake i forgor how much kwasong's dodge in mod3

[lapis hornet]

27/30 for croissant vs 32/35 for hoshi both mod3

but croissant has double dodge with s1

[shell arch]

Oh wow I was under the impression of kwasong having higher dodge

Oh yeah that's the reason

Thanks cake

[lapis hornet]

auto skill tho so could be cringe

[shell arch]

Auto activation?

Wtf

[lapis hornet]

it lasts 30s with 20 sp downtime it's not too bad

oh wait

os this for ch10 cannon

croissant dun dodge that afaik

[glass monolith]

Crois dodge physical
Hoshi dodge damage
Quartz dodge being alive in chapter 10

[shell arch]

Yeah kwasong died of ch10 cannons

Not dodging true dmg moment

[jovial nest]

Finally

time for me to do some SSS

I've finished D15 Ed2 IS4

[jovial nest]

I'm late to the party but it's time.

Most likely I'll go back to Mudrock and Penance since there's no more fog or overheal gimmicks

[foggy grove]

lighthouse

clueless

[vernal lion]

there's a snail in lighthouse

[dark glade]

soemthing thats not IS to play

[jovial nest]

I'll learn along the way

for now I'll enjoy the blind experience

[fringe jackal]

Lighthouse with a bunch of level 1 kamierze units never fucking again

Oh god I forgot to use the field support drone, I have to clear this cancer again

[jovial nest]

for Laterano-exclusive SSS...block count...

[foggy grove]

kazi has proviso and mlynar

you just need to add 2 random idiot like ft/jk/ntr/meteor

[fringe jackal]

Remember to do it on the train one and not the SN one

SN SSS is full on cancer

itsover

I forgot to do the drone mission in lighthouse so I have to do cancer a second time

[vocal leaf]

why are there so many sarkaz in laterano? are they trying to steal our ice cream?

[shell arch]

OUR ice cream

[candid beacon]

hey pro gamers
How do I 4 ops 10-17
I'm currently doing a challenge as a level 61
I do not have operators like Gavialter or any limited
My rooster rn is
Exalter
Kal'tsit
Surtr/Blemishine/Pozy

• 1 support unit

[shell arch]

Try browsing arkrec

[vocal leaf]

10-17 cm?

[candid beacon]

normal mode

I'm doing chapter 10 with 4 ops lol

[shell arch]

Self imposed challenge is admirable

But why don't you do the cm in one go

[vocal leaf]

oh normal mode should be easily done with kal pozy penance/mud

[candid beacon]

closest I've gotten to beating it was getting him to 15% hp on Phase II

because the canon kinda bugged and targetted mont3r instead of exalter who's blocking 6 touch of sangunarch

[vocal leaf]

manfred dead, but this is 5op since a need a vanguard to hold the initial mobs spawn

[glass monolith]

Today i find out Phase 2 Patriot has ranged attack

[atomic monolith]

My tags are trash but what exactly can i get from these?

[vital arrow]

suzuran

[atomic monolith]

Ugh... already have one ~=~

Should i just Yolo it?

[vital arrow]

then just pick whatever

[atomic monolith]

Melee i might get Blaze

Coping so hard rn

[shell arch]

Melee is like

1/6 balze

Or 1/7 i forgor

[atomic monolith]

Better than the other odds

[shell arch]

Just go yolo. Maybe you'll get someone new

[atomic monolith]

K

[shell arch]

Or be based and p5 suzuran so you'll get 3% extra fragile

[atomic monolith]

Top operator tag doesn't exist lmao

[shell arch]

So ture bestie!

Nice photoshop!!

[atomic monolith]

FUCK IT'S SIEGE

Not again

[jovial nest]

ok this map destroyed me because I banked on the wrong area to put my ranged units

I see no ranged ops

so I'll put them on safer areas now knowing they won't get harassed

ok this is my strat. Time to learn about the boss...

[vernal lion]

ah yes, Bully on Taxi

[jovial nest]

not just that

spiders

some red

the fuck there's so many openings

I can lower it to 2

[atomic monolith]

Hows Chongyues performance in iS3?

Worth bringing

[foggy grove]

prolly not

[vivid rain]

Chongyue is kinda meh in is3

1 block count is very ew augh for a “lane holder”

[atomic monolith]

[vernal lion]

nah, because seaborn in IS3 is so fucking cancer with ranged attack

Chong Yue will die before he can punch any of them

[jovial nest]

weird fight. But i now know where people go to...
this positioning is not optimal

[vernal lion]

Thomas

[jovial nest]

well i won

now i wanna clear it without continues for food medal

[dark glade]

i dont understand what i cook but lets see

[vocal leaf]

4 block irene

[foggy grove]

my sss crash when i'm doing no continue

[jovial nest]

there we go.

got the waffles.

I'll get the ham tomorrow.

[dark glade]

it cooked

this is so funny

[jovial nest]

actually, might as well do the hard mode of Laterano

[vernal lion]

ok I will try the lighthouse first

[vocal leaf]

what is this nightmare?
not even emergency

[lethal dragon]

Boss goes to left and enemies to right?

[vocal leaf]

enemies go to both directions

[vernal lion]

kekw

[lethal dragon]

Ew

[fair wasp]

Does anybody know an operator that synergize well with tequila? Or one that works well with glaucus. I want to know because i like the characters but i dont know how to use them.

[glass monolith]

Uh.... Literally any blocker to block enemies in his range while he prepares his skill

[somber stone]

Uh aak?

[fair wasp]

Fair point.

[glass monolith]

Or you know use Tequila 0 block to get enemy stuck between both fireballs of Reed alter S2

[limpid siren]

it's basically just what minus said

[fair wasp]

Dont have sadly

[limpid siren]

if you want to keep things simple then deploy tequila near or in front of another blocker

push the button when things get hectic

[fair wasp]

Ok, thanks for the tips

[limpid siren]

sometimes the 0 block off-skill is tactical

but honestly he's a pretty simple character

as for glaucus

it's hard to generate value from her bind alone, because it's usually much better to simply kill enemies

and her damage pop from s2 isn't that impressive

[fair wasp]

So i should save her for drone levels?

[limpid siren]

she's not exactly a drone specialist like her talent would imply

traditional answers like marksmen usually outpace her

when i get value out of glaucus is usually like

the very narrow slice of enemies you don't want to block, but you can also kill within 6s

[fair wasp]

Okay

[jovial nest]

Goddamn Laterano SSS Hard mode boss stage is insane

[glass monolith]

Traditional answers before game decide that slapping 800 DEF on every fucking drone in game is good idea

[vernal lion]

choo choo mother f**cker

[limpid siren]

it's happened exactly one time that i can remember

where if you let this guy get blocked, he summons a drone that kills everyone

[glass monolith]

Assassin horse to kill drone summoning shits on top lane during specialist ban

[limpid siren]

but yea for tequila, super simple unit

[silver garden]

yooo do you guys have a good guide for chocolate street (i have mudrock, lappland, blaze, also sa but theyre at e2 30) to compensate for my skill issue

[glass monolith]

For me Tequila assisted in killing elites/bosses because does numbers, we love numbers

[vernal lion]

I'm fucked

[glass monolith]

What the f is going on - Heavy metal starts

[jovial nest]

what a shitshow. I feel like I could have an easier time in...SN SSS?

that was one of the harder medals I've gotten so far.

[deft badger]

thomas is fun 😄

[atomic monolith]

This might be just me but I find burst damage skills with decently quick rotations to be better for IS, sustained damage just doesn't cut it in the later stages

[deft badger]

btw bro what does D15 add in is4

can't see it i am at 13 right now xD

[jovial nest]

hehe

lemme open app again

but it's quite the spike imo

which is why i agree that D12 is ez mode

after experiencing d15

[deft badger]

the hell they get 20% on all xD

[jovial nest]

yeah a huge difficulty to it are that the buffs apply to ALL

to that point that normal mobs endanger your Fang/Popukar goddamn fast.

unless you drop that heal soon

[deft badger]

its double

[jovial nest]

also...yeah,every new floor entered applies the +16 ATK and HP to everyone

[deft badger]

w8 does that stack?

[jovial nest]

no clue how its added

all i know is it hurts

and makes them bulky

your foldartals and relics have to carry

[glass monolith]

I heard it is multiplicative 1.16, and it apply EACH floor

So *1.16 floor 1, *1.16*1.16 floor 2 etc

[jovial nest]

yeah, each floor scales upwards

same for IS3

its their way of making sure f1 doesn't just outright destroy you by only adding huge flat buffs (hard mode IS2)

Hard Mode IS2 was outright bullshit in F1 and goddamn easy in F5

since buffs were flat/didn't scale

[deft badger]

don't really care much since i am hard skipping fights on floor4-5
my team is ready like 90% of the time at floor 2 to take on the bossxD

[jovial nest]

you must at least need to fight in F4

you can avoid F5 sure

[glass monolith]

1.16 scaling on floor 5 is already double HP and ATK, WITHOUT counting for all those fun effects of 15 d

[jovial nest]

and yet

[deft badger]

but i know that exe will not be able to hold left side solo without 50atk speed buff

[jovial nest]

with the right squad, relics, and foldartals

[deft badger]

on d15

[jovial nest]

D15 can feel easy

if the run is that good

[deft badger]

IS4 is kinda much easier then is3

if u use ur brain

[lethal dragon]

What brain just throw it out and use foldarts

[deft badger]

bro i even fail at that.. that screen proves it lol

[jovial nest]

I've done a lot of stupid stuff in IS4 to learn how to be good at it

that includes me stupidly using pure-RNG-based layouts and thinking it would target the boss node

[glass monolith]

[deft badger]

this thing was the best and i never saw it again after that

Sing doesn't even drop anymore that was on d11 when i saw it the last time and havent seen it since d4-5 probably

[glass monolith]

Bonus: There is Sponsor drone
Sponsor drone: Spawns in fucking top right corner and leaves after 5 seconds

[deft badger]

did get them all actually in the fight 😄

was kinder funny to watch mlynar haveing 0 animation

i got one more i think at the end and used it on the boss stage

[jovial nest]

nothing says OP than Mlynar just waving his arms and everyone dies from an invisible force

[deft badger]

will have to switch on support squad later i guess

i don't trust in to assault to carry d15

even it giving me e2 exe mlynar surtr already at floor 2 most of the time

[jovial nest]

Relying on those two early really wont get you far since your damage drastically lowers in cooldown/deployment timer

[deft badger]

what u mean, not far i am on a killing streak since over 30 runs xD

don't even remember when was the last time i lost

[jovial nest]

Still, Assault squad will be more tempting once global gets Degen. Degen starts are very solid. And Assault sounds acceptable even if its just for Degen, Mly, Ines

[deft badger]

don't know but till now the only map i do have really respect for is that laser map

with the laser from that new anni where it gives u sp regen and reduces enemy def

if i don't have texas i really strugle on it that's the only place where i lose hp

[vocal leaf]

musical disaster? lingering echoes mechanic, yeah the casters there go insane with splash damage

yato might be better tho in d15 cause caster oneshot texas, she doesn’t even have time to stun them like the is3 stage with flying guys from ch9

[glass monolith]

Dusk pet in CC7. targets 2 characters, range 10, DPS check or explode for half map

[deft badger]

that thing makes me so mad... i am rerolling since 20min

[scarlet fulcrum]

Just go with random for peak fun

[glass monolith]

[fringe jackal]

Rerolling???

[jovial nest]

oh....

Lighthouse do have enemies with Ele dmg

Might be best to bring Eyjaberry and Honeyberry

oh...there are lamps..

yeah there are ele dmg of different flavors. It's best to bring the Wanderings

[tropic valve]

the scaling difficulty of IS3 and IS4 is a better design

since you are expected to get stronger as the run goes on

it's not uncommon for a team to struggle to kill the Broodmothers on F2 Emergency Omen, but then destroy the Broodmothers on F6 Emergency Water and Fire Union later on

[jovial nest]

yes it is

IS2's immediate flat buffs of very high amts leads to an overwhelming start and a boring end

thats why most games tend to scale difficulty in a steady manner

Also the Lighthouse SSS

damn, Eyjaberry feels so necessary

[foggy grove]

it's kinda annoying
the lateranon one is easier

[jovial nest]

indeed

but Laterano taxi and boss stage is still insanely difficult in Hard Mode

thank goodness I don't exactly plan on grinding these stages monthly

I have a massive stockpile that I wouldn't even be able to spend on since it's gated by Data Blocks

[dark glade]

laterano is chill af

4 defender on exalter is actually cooking

[foggy grove]

yeah exa is cooking

[jovial nest]

Laterano on normal difficulty is fine

[foggy grove]

throw some suzu

[jovial nest]

it was insane how difficult Hard mode boss stage was

it just kept piling on damaging heavies

[foggy grove]

exa on hard mode cooking too

[jovial nest]

yeah if Exalter spooks me, I'd built him just for SSS

[fringe jackal]

I was cooked alive by both SSS in normal mode, itsover

these clutch wins were like mega scuffed

[foggy grove]

i got my deathless medal going blind on laterano

used kazi mission even

[jovial nest]

Laterano normal killed my first blind flawless run with that taxi stage

[foggy grove]

what's wrong with the taxi

they are all in range of mlynar

[jovial nest]

the normal blind playthrough...i banked on the wrong lane to put my ranged

spiders exploded my ranged lanes

[jovial nest]

This ham was actually a challenge.

Jeez, i can't imagine how much of a bitch Hard mode is

[mossy ore]

the laterano one hard mode is a bigger bitch imo

hard mode that one is still, eh

[jovial nest]

oh, they brought back flashbangs as a hard mode condition

good

they're not as problematic as those concrete blocks

[atomic monolith]

Hey, how's Quinbais usage in IS?

[harsh blade]

Im currently on 4-7. Who can i replace to beat it

[silver garden]

i need help with chocolate street

[foggy grove]

that squad looks good,maybe it's time for you to change your approach

also switch pozy to s2

you can use her typewriter to snipe some spiders

[harsh blade]

nice

But hold on i can't even be able to get enough DP if the first wave kills my myrtle since she takes too long to kill

And bagpipe blocks 1 only

[vivid rain]

honestly im struggling to understand how you arent stomping 4-7 with that team

[harsh blade]

Cuz exploding spiders

[foggy grove]

you know you don't always have to open with myrtle

you have pluma

[harsh blade]

True. I also have texas. I may try that

Well both texas and alter

[foggy grove]

if you have texas alter you can just drop her at spider

[harsh blade]

Shit. I didn't think of that

OH WELL MIGHT AS WELL TRY

[gray stone]

oh yeah, Pozy to S2

[harsh blade]

@foggy grove Dorothy Mines and Texas alter carried the stage

But god those spiders were annoying

[scarlet mortar]

mom carry
bottom text

how long did mans grind for that

[jovial nest]

Ok agreed....Laterano SSS is worse.

I got to clear hard mode of Lighthouse much easier

[merry narwhal]

New SSS stages?

[junior gazelle]

Is that lappland have talent to silently kill poison spider?

[mossy ore]

the train is so ass

i had to cycle suzu and mostima to burst it because no fucking way in hell i am bringing 5 defenders with 4-block

[foggy grove]

why 5 defender lol

i only brought like mud and penance

fed them to exalt
cycle with spec and supporter

[harsh blade]

Im about to fight Frostnova. Any tips on how to deal with her???

[scarlet mortar]

4-10?

[smoky halo]

she occasionaly does tile ban attacks ig

[harsh blade]

Yea

[scarlet mortar]

shoot her from far away ig

she has fairly low def but will occasionally ban tiles near her and slow whoever she's attacking

bring gravel to keep stalling her, that's more effective than a defender who she can instakill

you can retreat the op before she bans their tile if you want to save a bit of DP

[harsh blade]

Hmmm

Ok

[versed arrow]

FN counter is exu s3(spoiler but exu counter the 2nd FN stage too). Just have to block her a while while charging for 2nd around and she is dead on top lane. No need to deal with random blackice RNG. I hear pozy works too but I never went back to 4-10 so not sure if pozy works better.

[merry narwhal]

Frostnova is such a throwback. Even Skadi solos her 🥹

[scarlet mortar]

i mean she isn't that much of a threat, as an early boss she barely has any stats

[glass monolith]

"Oh sorry i banned tile you were using?"

[scarlet mortar]

it's just that newer players don't have a lot of experience dealing with enemies that you can't quickly melee

[versed arrow]

this is the most annoying part of that stage, I still remember when it was the best device farm so I tried to do it without support but the ice are so RNG I stopped following guide and farmed to e2 exu

[scarlet mortar]

idt i've had much problem even back when 4-10 was a decent farm stage

just find a more stable auto

[versed arrow]

most guides are kill her in middle lane but there are times she simply just ice all the tiles in the middle lane used in guide so I give and stop trying to follow guide for that stage

[scarlet mortar]

eh you're supposed to keep stalling her

the foolproof strat was to stall her until the rest of the stage dies anw

hence gravel

[vivid rain]

wait you have texalter right?

[versed arrow]

not if she ice the stalling tile, thats why I switch to my kill her at top lane strat

[vivid rain]

honestly frostnova wasnt actually that hard

[scarlet mortar]

gravel,

she doesn't ice every attack, just rdp

[vivid rain]

you put your lane holder closer to the red boxes and prep her killzone behind

mental illness can get the 2 funny frd and kill her on top lane

forgetting to use frd can borrow mlynar and mow her down in mere seconds

[scarlet mortar]

yh like i said

she has no stats

not even iframes

[vivid rain]

frostnova? just block her with a defender lmfao

what is she gonna do anyway, freeze a tank unit that have no dps?

[versed arrow]

blackice that tile and instant kill the tank happened on my practice tries back in the day

[scarlet mortar]

krill issue tbh

[glass monolith]

Dear Frostnova, may i offer you Gravel in those dire times? (Repeat 51 times)

[vivid rain]

tank dying is not a problem, just bait her ranged with gravel and let dps shred her down

[versed arrow]

not really, I remember the guides also said it may take some tries since ice RNG but I just dont want to bother with wasting sanity so I find more stable strat myself

[vivid rain]

boss so weak she died to oripathy mid fight

[glass monolith]

She run out of candies with vodka

[peak cloak]

kiwi candy mixed with 2 shots of vodka

[royal rose]

How do I prep for the new SSS stages?

I’m told they’re absurdly difficult

[vivid rain]

i dont think they are THAT difficult

you just need to bring a lot of defenders for laterano and medic for iberia

[merry narwhal]

There is one rng part at the start

Utage might be better

[limpid siren]

[merry narwhal]

Nope utage does no damage

IG marksmen are the smoothest solutions

Jesus, kroos2 pog

I tried three times and it worked every time

Exu can also do it?

Isn't her S3 too short?

[scarlet mortar]

a maxed exu kills her in a third the duration

probs less

[foggy grove]

exu can spawnkill yeah

[scarlet mortar]

then she has no p2 iframes so the rest is enough

free win is free

[lapis hornet]

nooo exu

potgated smh

altho think I'm not mod3

[sullen rover]

rip bozo

ela could never

[merry narwhal]

Kroos just better?

[sullen rover]

[foggy grove]

nothing as free as exe
i should told new player to borrow him instead

[lapis hornet]

typhon powercreep exu confirmed

[merry narwhal]

FedEx is cheating

[lapis hornet]

that skin looks creepy af

[void terrace]

Urgh why are the tentacles

[merry narwhal]

They're cute wdym

[jovial nest]

ok, i found a better layout for Laterano SSS boss map

plus the debuff device is something I prefer over the unique one

[hardy fog]

level up hoshi or ptilop
(that's going to be versatile in any mode)

[foggy grove]

you already have nian

[jovial nest]

Ptilo imo

[foggy grove]

rather get her module instead of raising hoshi

[hardy fog]

noted

thx

oh yea

which module better

for her

[foggy grove]

def up when blocking

[hardy fog]

👍

[merry narwhal]

Nian is six star cuora

How many module blocks can we get from the new SSS stages?

[foggy grove]

uh like 10?

looks like 5 per standard map

[lapis hornet]

new sss have any gimmick or is it another ez typhon clap

[glass monolith]

Remember SN-S-1?

[lapis hornet]

no I don't remember scrub maps

we get dodgers?

[jovial nest]

The great thing about the Kazi device is, you can just loop Meteor and Plat and get easy 5x Sniper

buuut thats about it

i have yet to see the halfway buff though

[foggy grove]

you can also do ft mlynar for easy stacking on mlynar

there is halfway buff atk/def for kazi but it doesn't pop up on my pull

[jovial nest]

good point

I'm learning well that I don't like 5x VG Mlynar

cause it kinda weakens how his talents work

But I guess thats why I'm looking forward to Degen for SSS

and if Exalter spooks me, that's another to raise for SSS

[lapis hornet]

I'm done with mlynar

typhon felt so much better lol

[jovial nest]

Well, Typhon's in my pool as part of the Sniper buffs

I can turn her into a 5x Sniper carry if i want

[lapis hornet]

think one of my problems with mlynar is

you have to setup esp for him

but then you don't get his card or not at the right time

then gg

[jovial nest]

I tend to make him usually the 2nd ground supercarry

he can't be the first

[lapis hornet]

with typhon if I don't get typhon I can still go gg or something like that

[jovial nest]

but i usually prio 5x Gnosis

due to most enemies being prone to Freeze

and why I like the Oscillator a lot

[foggy grove]

i can fed mlynar to my chongus or exa so it's fine for me

[lapis hornet]

I tried exa but

[wide sail]

what is exec stack usually

[jovial nest]

Degen will be one of the more amazing SSS supercarries

[lapis hornet]

ig it was miasma sss so he was kinda cringe

[jovial nest]

like most ground carries, 5x VG

[wide sail]

ic

[jovial nest]

one of the VG buffs gives ATK and +SP after some time