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limpid siren
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You run out of good tiles first, in my experience

gray stone
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That requires you to place them with 0 cooldowns

tidal sedge
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How often do folks actually run out of traps with Dorothy without it being skill issue

quick pecan
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i’m gonna cope frost

scarlet mortar
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not really if you consider the traps as a shared resource

quick pecan
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when ash banner reruns

gray stone
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I have never ran into a case where I run out of Doro traps

quick pecan
scarlet mortar
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mfw solos

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like, in a general squad yh you'd only bring one

tidal sedge
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If we're talking solos then you aren't running both anyways

scarlet mortar
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but as a duo they're kinda cracked imo

spark sinew
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frost> dorothy real and true in is3 and only when you get glorypack and only if enemy is not immune to stun

tall cairn
gray stone
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I think duo is doable

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If Ela works like Frost

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to Dorothy and Robin

scarlet mortar
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doro ela otw to claim twice as many no hit 1p relays

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hope ela minmaxes more on cc so they complement each other's roles

gray stone
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actually
Ela's mines seems to have a wider trigger radius

quick pecan
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doesnt dorothy already have a good mix of damage + cc

scarlet mortar
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her cc is pretty precise, so the limitation(.........ish) of it is that constant waves will wear her out

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yh that's hardly a downside for her

gray stone
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Ela is going to be more damage oriented

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similar to Frost

scarlet mortar
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doubt tbh, the trapper Xmod needs to do even better than Ymod then

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ela doesn't have doro's talent 2 either

gray stone
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Her kit isn't out

scarlet mortar
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yh just saying she has a lot to catch up on

gray stone
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All I see on the trailer is S1 damage, S2 stuns, S3 seems like inflict Fragile?

quick pecan
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stuns 🤯 the ash support goes crazy

scarlet mortar
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it'd be extremely busted if she did get that kind of damage without simply being a direct doro powercreep

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which uh

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does HG want another boycott

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all this does hinge on HG having at least one person on their balancing team

tall cairn
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Balance?

gray stone
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This is the Fragile icon right?

scarlet mortar
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yh

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same as thrm-ex's

gray stone
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so Ela inflicts Fragile on S3

scarlet mortar
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i'm gonna say all this and get instantly cancelled by hai mao himself tomorrow

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w/e if doro gets powercrept i'll just get the popcorn

gray stone
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Being more general use is enough for people to call powercreep

scarlet mortar
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trapper debuff clueless

weak gazelle
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ohh so doc kit would be like that, interesting....
this one spesifically need to know its number to see
31 ammo is a good sign
so total 93 ammo per deployment

quick pecan
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i heard typhon powercreeped rosa 💪

long epoch
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6* powercrept 5* doesn't count. ReedBean

scarlet mortar
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it doesn't even matter whether ela powercreeps doro

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phantom just got buried 10 more kilometers under

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S3 copers, not even once

sullen rover
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his s3 is pretty good for stalling….

weak gazelle
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and his mod in that branch make more sense
dunno if his healing is green number or nahPtiloThonk
but animation indicate it as green number

sullen rover
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doc gud SoraWow

quick pecan
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oh wtf

free gold cert from tagless recruit

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ok time to buy croissant pot

foggy grove
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doc is gud...looking

quick pecan
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surely i can get 8 gold certs to buy ashlock before she’s gone

foggy grove
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and that's it

quick pecan
foggy grove
sullen rover
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his heal will be good…

quick pecan
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hmm or should i just save it

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since i’m already e2ing fire whistle

weak gazelle
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i got the feeling his somewhat have a use in more way than i expected

sullen rover
long epoch
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At least Doc will be a solid stats stick. BlitzSmile

Instructor stats are pretty high except horrible HP and Doc talent buff that part.

weak gazelle
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first impression?
fuse is more or less lost cause
iana is great

quick pecan
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i looked back and yeah their atk interval pretty fast for melee

limpid siren
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maybe doc will be better than my first impression

foggy grove
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oh would be funny if doc can hit air RedOmegaLul

tidal sedge
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It amuses me how that there seems to be a decent amount of variance in the sensibilities of 5* enjoyers

limpid siren
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makes sense given there's a huge variance in 5*s themselves

sullen rover
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his skins show barrier?

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roberta powercreep? ExuStare

quick pecan
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god i need one more croissant pot

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for 30% talent

limpid siren
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i need one more cert for the same pot

tidal sedge
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Interesting. I thought you folks had pot 5 Croissant already

quick pecan
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i think i’m gonna buy specter pot whenever she comes back to shop or for kernel locating

i use her with andreana way too much to not get that juicy atk pot

limpid siren
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i only had pot 2 until kernel locating

quick pecan
tidal sedge
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Although I guess it's not that weird considering I don't have Hung despite how old my account is

limpid siren
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oh the joys of hunting for 5*s after their debut

quick pecan
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i rolled qiubai banner and got a bunch of hung pots

long epoch
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Nearl is my first max pot 5* AmiyaDeskBang

quick pecan
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like four from that banner iirc

foggy grove
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it stinks i only got nearl after alter taks gone

gray stone
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Grey Alter wanters can rejoice because he also appear again on Reed rerun

quick pecan
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my leonhardt is max pot bc i tried rolling for lappland ReedBean

when i was new i pulled specter bc of a kukkikaze vid

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90+ pulls zero lappland

gray stone
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but that's right after Leto so idk how many pulls are even left

limpid siren
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i have p6 rockrock so pulling sounds like a bad idea

quick pecan
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dorothy banner is rigged

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greyy alt + rockrock

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i need pots for both

limpid siren
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oh is it dorothy that has both

quick pecan
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but i gotta get hoederer

gray stone
limpid siren
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neat

tidal sedge
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Hmm.

gray stone
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Leto is paired with Tsukinogi

quick pecan
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i actually

tidal sedge
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Who was other 5* rateup on initial run

quick pecan
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somehow

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by the grace of god

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have dodged tsuki

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to this day

scarlet mortar
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i'm gonna be seen as a copium overdose patient rn, but just checking the pv yh ela's mines somehow don't trigger red flashes on enemies

gray stone
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Warmy is with Mulberry

tidal sedge
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I've been kinda wondering if they've been picking the better 5*s to replace kernel banished ops on reruns

quick pecan
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nah they added lunacub to eben rerun

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that’s worse than blue poison

scarlet mortar
gray stone
tidal sedge
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Hm. I suppose Greyyter fits due to hitcount mechanics

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Lunacub does safe laser directing

quick pecan
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…i bought aosta

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🫢

tidal sedge
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Proviso is ???

limpid siren
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proviso is the best 5* in the game

gray stone
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except being Victorian

scarlet mortar
limpid siren
scarlet mortar
quick pecan
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bought aosta

proceeded not to buy his skin

remembered my executor is p6 and questioned my life choices

scarlet mortar
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yh but no sign of damage

scarlet mortar
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which is interesting

gray stone
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I think she will do it through her autos

tidal sedge
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Yeah I suppose Skyfire is kinda trash vs WFLC mechanics

scarlet mortar
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are they really gonna make a trapper which mines don't do damage

gray stone
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like Frost S2 damage is in her autos

scarlet mortar
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bc that's based ngl

scarlet mortar
tidal sedge
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Although it's funny how frequently she's 5* rateup

scarlet mortar
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so ela and doro would be sidegrades

quick pecan
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dude skyfire was everywhere

tidal sedge
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GG banner, Blaze banner, Reed alter, and I think one other time?

quick pecan
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tbh hung too

gray stone
quick pecan
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so it’s amazing that you still don’t have him lol

gray stone
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When did Hung appear again

quick pecan
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hung was on kal cert banner

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and qiubai

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those were fairly close to each other too

tidal sedge
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Ah, Eyja banner it was

quick pecan
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oh the weedy ifrit standard banner too

gray stone
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We only count event banners

tidal sedge
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Someone on the dev team likes her, wonder if she'll get an alter. Maybe she'll be 6* burn ritualist

gray stone
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and it's funny seeing Skyfire being added into anything cats/Victoria

quick pecan
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i mean a rate up is a rate up

a lot of ppl pulled that kal banner too bc kal + pozy

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ig for the purposes you mentioned sure

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it was just wild seeing hung back to back to back

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but anyway yeah lunacub on eben was just why

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she already made my texalt pulls cringe

gray stone
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I just realized

tidal sedge
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Laser control

gray stone
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If more ops is added into Kernel

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Elysium will be even harder to find

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and new players would all use Myrtle

quick pecan
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no

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you will force them to use wanqing

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like a true chad

gray stone
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Event jail

tidal sedge
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Wan Qing record restore eventually

quick pecan
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by eos yeah

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jk cn is still going strong

foggy grove
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stay tune on 2026

gray stone
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5th anniversary will announce a Genshin Impact collaboration trust me

limpid siren
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@tidal sedge okay hear me out

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what if all the new r6 5*s have two talents

tidal sedge
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That'd be neat. But what makes you think that could be the case?

limpid siren
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mostly copium

foggy grove
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doc showcase has this shield going

limpid siren
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but yea

tidal sedge
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Aw

limpid siren
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there's that

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and like

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idk

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just kinda feels like there's something missing

sullen rover
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gives shield to healed person after healing someone…

limpid siren
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could even be extra talent from modules

tidal sedge
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Hmm. I can see what you mean by there's something missing.

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At least with Doc

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Iana and Fuze seem like relatively complete kits from what is known about them.

limpid siren
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idk

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iana's kit feels like it's missing some explanation

scarlet fulcrum
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Instructor with extra text talent from mod nothing new ig. Prev mods trend

tidal sedge
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I certainly wouldn't mind if they all had 2 talents

limpid siren
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i can see it for all of them

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probably just some cope though ig

scarlet fulcrum
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Tho iana certainly unique for her class, she only need to get attacked for 0 block dps. Ig s1 is passive and s2 is manual

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well s2 ignore talent kit ig RedOmegaLul pog

long epoch
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Gotta see how 5* experimental units turn out. BlitzSmile

scarlet fulcrum
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DocSmile atleast they all have guns, ppl often complain about this on certain units

merry narwhal
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The last 0 block DPS we got were Kirara and Lunacub

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I'm not getting my hopes up

limpid siren
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iana at the very least does something else

vernal lion
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so Iana s2 is review invis enemies inside her range and switch from main body to doll phase

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also gain camo and aspd buff

void terrace
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The new R6 operators seem rather mid

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Waiting for the 6 star

vernal lion
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all R6S op are niche btw

void terrace
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Yeah that high ground fuse mechanic seems

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Super weird

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Like he would be hiding in an adjacent lanr

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The DMG needs to be really great to justify that weird placement

carmine cove
scarlet mortar
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peak

glass monolith
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You could try using defender who is defending enough to wait out spear guy dying from cringe

scarlet mortar
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those guys die on their own (until it's CM)

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so yh your thing with them is just letting your defenders tank the spears

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the top lane is exclusively those guys and they don't move while attacking, so don't bother pointing anyone that way

peak cloak
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i fartooth justyna
*die

anyways, deploy defender and medic first, then u can start easily building up

verbal sparrow
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will it ever be possible for them to run out of ideas

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eventually operators start becoming samey and powercreeping each other. or maybe that already happened

scarlet mortar
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we kinda ran out of basic mechanics to work with a while ago now

scarlet fulcrum
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There are a lot reference for ops for enemies side u still see nothing

verbal sparrow
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now we only lack an operator that deletes all enemies globally

scarlet mortar
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if you're really jaded, you could almost say that stuff like elemental damage was made as fluff to sidestep stat creep with the basic damage types

glass monolith
tough sail
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Hey guys. Since the next Is is coming up I'm planing on either building an atk buffer or a debuffer to increase the damage for my top units like surtr, typhon etc. I never used units like pramanix or aak, always relying on brute strength.

My current options are either shamare or warfarin.

Is any more preferable than the other in terms of usefulness for harder stages or events?

scarlet mortar
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new mechanics will eventually be made like that

scarlet mortar
foggy grove
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buffer is depends on who you are buffing

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surtr for example likes aak more

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since she already has big +%atk buff so war buff is kinda diluted

tough sail
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Hm true I guess I have to take the different kinds of multipliers and which units I want to buff into account. I guess the main units for buffing would be Chen, typhon, surtr, mlynar and chenalter

scarlet mortar
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warf, warf, aak, aak, warf

verbal sparrow
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warfarin, shamare, aak
Just raise them all

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RES debuffer is called ifrit

tough sail
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Interesting it's pretty close oh well. I do have aak but I never use him. I'm going for warf then. Seems better to buff than to debuff. Tyty

peak cloak
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i wont blame, 21 years of playing game i have seen some great empires died

verbal sparrow
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we are really getting into experimentation stages with stuff like teleport

scarlet mortar
peak cloak
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or dying

scarlet mortar
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those two statuses on enemies along with elemental damage really shows that we need to start making new mechanics

peak cloak
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but i feel like arknights isnt atm, at least for me?

scarlet mortar
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else new ops will just

  • have different range
  • have more damage
  • buff harder
  • cc harder
scarlet mortar
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we've had dodge and we've had dodge ignore, we've had enemy elemental damage and then wandering medics to deal with it, we've gotten invuln and ops which track enemies, tp them or bypass their invuln like mos, ines, harmonie and blacknight

glass monolith
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Suzu S3M3 - 1.5x damage done to enemy which is not slow immune. Universal. If enemy take 0 damage it won't change it becaus 1.5 of 0 is 0.
Warf S2M3 - +90% ATK, which additive with + ATK% of skills so your +330% Surtr will just be +420% ( DocSmile ) ATK and bleed faster. Warf buff better on units who get attack speed instead ATK like Exu, Kroos alter etc.
Aak S3M3 - +50% ATK, +50% attack speed, target need to survive 500 x 15 physical damage. Played IS2? Remember attack speed fiesta? Aak is mini version of that. Attack speed buff is rare so effective on almost everything if it survives.
Pramanix S2M3 - -60% DEF, -30% RES. Big numbers but loses to "Ifrit exists" debuff (-40% res) and Shamare because her debuff affect only enemies within her range and we don't have much tiles to work with sometimes.
Shamare S2M3 - -50% enemy ATK, DEF. OP AF because buff affects all non invisible targets in 3x3 around any deployable tile (combined with stuff like Suzu slow enemy won't have time to exit debuff range). ATK down helps with some stuff
Okay i wrote big enough wall of text, have fun there

scarlet mortar
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fyi blacknight's sleep on S2 bypasses invuln

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ammo mechanics exist as an alternative to time-based skill durations

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there'll be more mechanics as we go

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it's just inevitable for a live service game

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nobody remembers the hymnoi warriors but those mfs had 100% reduction on phys, arts and true damage

foggy grove
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where is your stainless

vernal lion
# verbal sparrow will it ever be possible for them to run out of ideas

alien enemy that can do mind control your op, make that op fight against the other op KEKL
meteor shower mechanism, that will instant kill the op that is hit directly by it and the splash damaging nearby op, KEKPAT
enemy that needs 2 op at least to be blocked (sandwich) HellaKek
boss enemy that can revive the fallen mob, if only you defeat the boss, the mob is no longer revivable... plebKEKW

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tbh I still have a lot of idea

peak cloak
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oh, but eh, prob some low skill levels players will complain

scarlet mortar
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just saying events nowadays don't even cater to 3*s anymore

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the normal -8 stages are closer to E1max 4* levels

peak cloak
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yea, personally i want the game to be harder but not sure if those guys start full karen modes and start complaining cuz they dont want to git gud.

i see it in so many games and i'm sure arknights will have those guys too.

scarlet mortar
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nowadays events make full use of blocking, crowd control and positioning checks

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but there's no place to play around with those things before you enter the actual events

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so your frustration if you're a new player would just be dumped onto the event itself, which sucks

peak cloak
peak cloak
scarlet mortar
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yk how everyone hated LE

smoky halo
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everyone hated LE?

glass monolith
# foggy grove where is your stainless

Stainless S1M3 - up to +96% ATK, each device give +48% during skill, +12% off skill. At end of skill devices blue screen. Need to have deployable tiles around whatever you want to buff
Elysium S2M3 - -35% Def, 60% enemy speed down, disable invisibility. Make it cheaper to deploy snipers, during skill grand bonus speed to snipers. Use your snipers, NOW KroosEvil
Ifrit - -40% RES just because she exists. S3M3 apply -20 flat RES, but that works only on ground targets, need to press button, do masteries to up it from -10 to -20 NotLikeIfrit
Random mentions because no one will run those units during rarity abusing: Meteor (-35%/-40% DEF based on skill, short duration). Haze (-20% RES after attack. Need to have active S2 for 100% uptime during which she has 300 max HP, have fun).
RosChill

smoky halo
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i thought it was pretty free

glass monolith
smoky halo
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...

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use the laser Dog

scarlet mortar
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LE-9 and LE-EX-7 were great examples of stages that make full use of the enemies' ability to fuck you over

glass monolith
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And then get Fd by dude which make attack chain to everyone inside lazer

smoky halo
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bait with someone Dog

scarlet mortar
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the rerun was free but LE-EX-7 CM was at the time one pretty bullshit stage

smoky halo
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SoraWow i see

scarlet mortar
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fat af statcheck

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saxophonists are still one of my most hated mobs despite doing almost nothing

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they're just thicc

glass monolith
scarlet mortar
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and also punch straight through your defenders ig

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the laser on that stage was also annoying to access

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a casual player would bring a full squad to use the laser and then get cucked by spire casters + violinists

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it doesn't let up on the tension at all

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LE-EX-7 CM was arguably the hardest stage of the event

smoky halo
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yah i had the most trouble with ex7cm too

peak cloak
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yea le ex 7 cm, that stage was kinda hard.
i actually mald that cm for a day 😂 and eventually lost my will to keep continue ex 8 and its cm

scarlet mortar
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EX-8 kreide just does fuck all walking around

smoky halo
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ex8 is just let the boss killhimself kek

scarlet mortar
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it's a badly designed stage imo

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but that's not too relevant to what we're talking abt

smoky halo
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i mean i still dont get ur statement

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like

scarlet mortar
smoky halo
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dont all events require positioning

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and shit

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or do old events not require that

scarlet mortar
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yh but this is abt how the game needs to keep coming up with new mechanics

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as the events become more convoluted so will the ways we have to deal with them

smoky halo
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ah

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so its just less "newbie" friendly

scarlet mortar
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yh

smoky halo
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bc they will get info dumped

scarlet mortar
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hence the need for tutorials

smoky halo
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by 300 stage mechanics in 1 event

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oh i get ur point now

scarlet mortar
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like i'm used to abusing or evading event mechanics by now, but the newer player definitely will spend a couple days malding

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and then they get to the boss stage

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and then in half a week they'll get to EX stages

glass monolith
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Boss kills itself out of feeling bad for us

dark glade
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yes but the civ kill themself

scarlet mortar
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#help gonna be real fun once RS arrives for global

dark glade
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gardener in a nutshell

scarlet mortar
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and this channel as well

dark glade
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im not backreading

scarlet mortar
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kjerag pt 2

smoky halo
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oh harold event

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?

glass monolith
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Snowballs with Harold

scarlet mortar
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yh

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incoming tactical nuke

glass monolith
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Is oven hit or damage based?

smoky halo
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all i know abt it is that he has very high dmg reduc if u ignore mechanics

glass monolith
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Or it is completely DoT immune?

scarlet mortar
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i mean even before RS-8 you have to deal with the blizzard

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which is really oppressive already

peak cloak
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rs? the degen event?

scarlet mortar
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and then you get to this chap who literally orbital strikes you if you have unlit furnaces

peak cloak
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excuse me, i havent yet researched so no clues about rs

scarlet mortar
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(he periodically splashes the furnaces btw)

vernal lion
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RS is just OD

scarlet mortar
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OD if the boss was actually hostile

vernal lion
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instead of taking continuous dmg and -50% atk, you get 'almost' permanent freeze

scarlet mortar
glass monolith
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Just macro 4 ovens in all corners of map. Oh he decided to disable oven right before health gate and wiped you? Idk be better

smoky halo
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SoraWow lumen showcase

glass monolith
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Lumen first to get frozen

vernal lion
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Lumen when he got freeze

scarlet mortar
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clueless

smoky halo
peak cloak
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add whisperain BlitzSmile

glass monolith
peak cloak
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now u have back up

glass monolith
vernal lion
scarlet mortar
smoky halo
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SoraWow breeze lumen tech

vernal lion
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mind blowing up

glass monolith
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Silence alter S2 to facetank Harold skill DIE

scarlet mortar
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great event

foggy grove
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what is that

smoky halo
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harold event prolly

scarlet mortar
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RS-EX-8 CM

foggy grove
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harold deez nuts?

scarlet mortar
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yh

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oh mud permastalls p1 that's cool

vernal lion
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Doctor: Harold, I saw you nuke whole my squad. Why now you can't do that to the enemy tho?
Harold: But sir, you beat me too much. Now I'm just a weak uncle.

glass monolith
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Beats shit out of you to sell his medic services.... He is medic, right? CeobeConfused

scarlet mortar
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ah no wonder the vid's that long

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bro waited out the entire snowstorm

vernal lion
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yea I thought so too

glass monolith
vernal lion
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when you review that time

vernal lion
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Harold atk int in p1 is 6 sec, and 4 sec in p2

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Mudrock shield is refreshed every 9 sec

scarlet mortar
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apparently mud mod3 still tanks it

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since he occasionally splashes furnaces mud gets enough of a break to not die

vernal lion
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yes

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only when at least a furnace is presented

brazen stream
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imagine a 2nd juggernaut mod

scarlet mortar
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lmao the RS mobs melting through ling's dragons of all things though

vernal lion
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tbh they are same like IS mobs

scarlet mortar
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not even close

vernal lion
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it's 3.5x atk all phases KEKL

scarlet mortar
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"melee attacks inflict 3.5x" bro is literally dikaiopolis

glass monolith
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Finally worthy target for Quartz

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But first need to make clown out of Jessalter boss

civic bear
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melee hits like truck but ranged 😪

tawny solar
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Just cleared H12-1

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Every stage is a battle for my life bro

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💀

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Stall central

latent anvil
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carrot birb pro dalao

lapis hornet
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can confirm only pros use sa s2

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source: I use sa s2

glass monolith
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We will Texas Alter rerun at some point in future, literally everyone will use SA s2 unless they have more viable blocker for that BS HellaKek

spark sinew
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i remember saria folding

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maybe i'm misremembering

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oh it's the consistent regen that makes it possible?

glass monolith
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Well i was Sarialess back on Texas alter

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And Eunectes was busy chocking life out of boss FrankaWheeze

cosmic thicket
tidal sedge
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Well that was fun

lapis hornet
waxen swan
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What that mean

viscid mist
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Ray is broken

sly pivot
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lil bro dont hide that mlynar in ur hand

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🥱

wary gate
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How to deal with that cluster dude

latent anvil
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which cluster dude ExuStare

wary gate
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Uhhh

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Wait

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12-20

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Main story

latent anvil
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oh damatzi

cyan gorge
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Mlynar + medic defenders

latent anvil
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mmm definitely need healing and try to spread out a bit

wary gate
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Should I tweak this team up a bit

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It’s sending

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Oh it doesn’t want to ig

scarlet mortar
#

ch'alter

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yh ok free win ig

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block all the bodies in ch'alter's range and let it rip

#

you probs need more blockers

gray stone
gray stone
sullen rover
#

🤩

viscid mist
#

🤩

#

sent

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my baby account is only 5 days old so i'm still level 23

#

🐤

wary gate
limpid siren
flint falcon
#

is that reed

#

so that count for charger trait huh

limpid siren
#

it's reed yea

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she can even get 3 dp for killing herself

tidal sedge
#

Suicide targeting?

#

I didn't think they'd keep using that

limpid siren
#

i guess it has to be counted as self-damage in some way

tidal sedge
#

Yeah. Like originium tiles

gray stone
#

so called free thinkers

heady hedge
#

@quick pecan blacknight > vigil

quick pecan
#

i’m blending my brain thanks

heady hedge
#

no problem

peak cloak
#

😂

timid schooner
glass monolith
#

Lunacub > April DIE

timid schooner
#

lmao

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ok how abt kyaa > ntr knight girl

foggy grove
#

who

noble pewter
#

SkadiDaijoubu > BlemiCry sis

sonic gorge
#

anyone got any strats to farm is3

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i wanna get the background

glass monolith
#

Start killing seaborn

tidal sedge
#

Do endings that take you to floor 6 if possible. Take Wander into Wonderland nodes. Play sw7.

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Unless you mean approaches to winning maps

peak cloak
# sonic gorge anyone got any strats to farm is3

all i can say is to be patience otherwise u can choose to mald IS 24/7 , 7 days a week, 4 weeks a month to get that background.

there is another option: pay op to skip but i wont recommend doing that.

glass monolith
#

Someone give me x4 speed option for SSS farming FiaDed

timid schooner
#

2fast4you

worldly thistle
#

using archetto talent to help typhon afk setup faster is viable right?

tidal sedge
#

Archetto talent wouldn't affect Typhon

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None of Typhon skills are offensive recovery

worldly thistle
#

rip, i missread it 💀

#

ty for the confirmation

limpid siren
#

You’d probably be looking for ptilopsis

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But i don’t think the speed up would be that impactful in too many setups

tidal sedge
#

When people call Typhon akin to Thorns, they mean her dps output

glass monolith
copper comet
#

Explainatory

sullen rover
#

chongyue lift person
and dorothy place lego for person to step on

peak cloak
#

xd, d14 ed 3 almost done the last boss stage but game crashed BlitzSmile DocSmile

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sadge, it's my most successful run so far. mald in 2h

fluid fulcrum
#

This looks cursed

dusty cedar
#

Peak IS strategy

sullen rover
#

wtf

vivid rain
#

this is such a reserve operator - sniper moment

stiff wedge
#

@timid schooner

#

Here

vital arrow
#

Borrow eyjaberry, follow this setup

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Replace GG with archetto and replace cuora with lappland/guardmiya

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Or you can try penance with S2

stiff wedge
vital arrow
#

In case youre wondering yes that is E1 typhon

stiff wedge
#

Also is Mlynar here ?

vital arrow
#

Up there

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Below beagle, left of cutter

stiff wedge
#

Also where is typhoon facing ?
The left side or the right side ?

vital arrow
#

Left

stiff wedge
#

Okay

#

I will try this

vital arrow
#

Wait you can replace cuora with mountain

stiff wedge
#

And I'm assuming Susuro is used for waves that has a lot of enemies s

vital arrow
#

No I didnt deploy any other medic

#

Eyja is the only medic there

stiff wedge
#

Okay

#

Then I will try tomorrow

vital arrow
stiff wedge
#

My strat before was triple healers since they just flipping they immediately when I use chongyue

vital arrow
#

If you can put some levels on penance itd be nice

#

I'll try using penance s2 on botlane

scarlet fulcrum
#

u pinged wrong person btw

#

Dokutah ceems is the blogging dude iirc

vital arrow
#

yes

#

you can and will get swarmed

#

your fix is basically get a good waveclear

modern mason
#

Question who are some good units to use Muelsyse with?

radiant mesa
#

Exu

modern mason
#

I've had her for the longest time but haven't gotten around to her

radiant mesa
#

She's the best AA in the game it's pretty reasonable to raise her

sullen rover
#

the problem is

AA

fluid fulcrum
#

A15 btw

modern mason
#

So exu would be good any other options from here?

scarlet fulcrum
#

U can skip her, buy yea exu gud option for her s3

radiant mesa
#

You aren't showing your unraised 6*

#

Can only see flametail

modern mason
#

Oh I could pull em up

smoky halo
#

doro > exu for mumu clone

#

well that is if ur willing to build dorothy

radiant mesa
#

Horn is a good raise

modern mason
#

Forgot I had horn tbh

vital arrow
#

just raise horn and dorothy

modern mason
#

Also I heard Dorothy got pretty good with her module

vital arrow
#

mumu is kinda eh

scarlet fulcrum
#

U can forget mumu tbh

modern mason
#

I'd like to level doro

vital arrow
#

youd like to what

#

doro is pretty ok

sullen rover
#

level doro

vital arrow
#

has some niche in stalling

scarlet fulcrum
#

Doro and horn fine

vital arrow
#

though ela is coming in 6 months

scarlet fulcrum
cedar hound
scarlet mortar
lapis hornet
#

is ela any good?!

scarlet mortar
#

unique so to say

#

potentially great but we don't have numbers yet

lapis hornet
#

what's her kit?

scarlet mortar
#

mines deal no damage but her skills buff herself and give the mines supporting effects

merry narwhal
#

she got the scorpion (s3) and the shotty (s2) 🥹

scarlet mortar
#

accuracy debuffing, stun and fragile

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S1-3 respectively

#

acc debuffing is new but think fortuna

#

the HE miniboss

vivid rain
#

wow they added reverse dodge

#

cant wait for it to be called tremored

scarlet mortar
#

bosses might be immune to it but imagine flash nading steam knight and he misses his entire lunge

glass monolith
scarlet mortar
#

mizuki Ymod showcase

spark sinew
#

is it confirmed that we're getting second ash mod?

#

I've seen a lot of talking about it

turbid badge
#

did u see

#

the pv

lapis hornet
#

sounds interesting but also rng fest

scarlet mortar
#

surely it won't be needed for a CCB max strat

#

clueless

void terrace
#

Has anyone tested doro and Shu

#

Combinations

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Like making enemies repeatedly walk over mines

scarlet mortar
#

kinda a waste of shu's tp's since the mines would be slowing mobs down

wooden latch
spark sinew
#

I'm mostly curious how tf would current trapmaster mod work on ela then

spark sinew
smoky halo
#

based on the vid

spark sinew
#

ye but 6* get two mods eventually

smoky halo
#

oh

spark sinew
#

(and since ash is getting a second one, it's fair to say that collab units aren't restricted to one mod)

smoky halo
#

skip modY go straight to mod delta BlitzSmile

gray stone
#

hmmmst

desert sigil
#

does typhon s3m3 have better single target dmg potential vs rosa s3m3

gray stone
#

Shu can't apply rice field on fountain tiles

desert sigil
#

i have both but i never used rosa before so idk how good rosa is

scarlet mortar
#

typhon S3 beats out rosa S3 by a mile, the latter isn't an ST bosskiller

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otoh rosa S2 beats out typhon S2 against heavies

desert sigil
#

so the comparison ppl keep talking about is s2?

scarlet mortar
#

they're both strong so like

gray stone
#

People still hype up S3 a lot

#

but you mostly won't use it

scarlet mortar
#

typhon S3 has good damage but takes too long to deal it, which is what turns people off

desert sigil
#

but rosa s2 isnt perma tho so for afk typhon shld still work better right if the difference isnt overly significant

scarlet mortar
#

rosa S3 doesn't have as much total damage but cycles faster and is better suited for more enemies

desert sigil
#

that guy used to be kinda annoying to deal with for me

#

but typhon multihit made it easier to secure kill consistently for my autoruns

scarlet mortar
desert sigil
#

ah i see

#

i m3'ed it immediately when i saw unlimited duration

#

my neurons activated instantly

scarlet mortar
#

it also kinda has terrible gains from mastery lmao

desert sigil
#

tragic

spark sinew
#

i mean you would know while m3ing BlitzSmile

wide sail
#

5% atk fire emoji

gray stone
desert sigil
desert sigil
#

guess ill level her sometime later then

#

schwarz has been hard to use these days for my heavy duty

spark sinew
#

just use casters my dude

#

or like mlynar/buffed degen

desert sigil
#

:(

scarlet mortar
#

tbf besieger range is great

#

love it when the boss just sits there unable to do anything as it gets speared to death

spark sinew
#

can't say the same about schwarz

desert sigil
#

casters are good too but eyja 24/7 was getting kinda boring HAHA

#

golden is easy to use tho

#

i think physical generally has bigger numbers too if u overcome def

#

dont quote me i dont actually know

gray stone
#

you should have enough options to not rely on Rosa to do damage against heavies

quick pecan
#

i mean arts doesn’t need the numbers to be big

gray stone
#

Typhon's thing is not competing with the actual big dogs

quick pecan
#

it needs them to be more frequent

#

because of how res works

gray stone
#

What matters for arts is total damage

#

and Casters all have <90k total damage

#

for some reason

#

(the reason being Eyja)

desert sigil
gray stone
#

nah

#

Mlynar

desert sigil
#

ah right

gray stone
#

Rosa has to fight the top dogs of the physical category

#

Typhon fights Thorns and she wins easily at it

#

Or the edge cases where her S3 is favorable

desert sigil
#

i enjoy them too but its been getting stale these days so ive been trying the quirky characters xd

gray stone
#

I think this is funny

desert sigil
#

i speak chinese but i cant read chinese

quick pecan
#

tymid

desert sigil
gray stone
desert sigil
#

nice

gray stone
#

Typhon actually requires the squad buff to kill Rat King there

quick pecan
#

i think people just overhyped the first besieger who chose to be a generalist

#

looking at her raw s2 numbers will never not be funny

gray stone
quick pecan
#

everyone and their mother can kill patriot fast tbh

#

and that one cycle is so long it might as well be two

gray stone
sly pivot
#

typhon sisters is it over?

gray stone
#

go girl give us nothing

desert sigil
#

top 10 saddest typhon moments

sly pivot
#

if im using s3 for these jobbers i might as well bring a better unit

#

🥹

lethal dragon
#

Like blitz!!

desert sigil
#

but its a fixed squad stage 💢

#

💢💢💢

scarlet fulcrum
#

They just want to test s2 alone for those last mobs

#

The stage itself doable with all 3 skills

desert sigil
#

im just meming i dont actually care haha dun worry

scarlet fulcrum
#

👍

desert sigil
#

@gray stone when is fartooth optimal

#

just one situation

#

i want to use her but shes so ass for me

desert sigil
#

fuck

#

her skin is nice though

#

nuu

gray stone
#

Probably except that one stage back in SN

scarlet mortar
#

SN-EX-5

#

that could be wrong but i said it anw

scarlet mortar
desert sigil
#

but i have her at 200% trust SurtrDumb

#

surely

scarlet mortar
#

S3M3 and Xmod3

desert sigil
#

:'((

scarlet mortar
#

it won't make her busted but at least you won't get reminded to level her when she flops

desert sigil
#

all these old characters need a eunectes level mod rework istg its so sad

gray stone
#

Eunectes is mid tho

quick pecan
#

but now she is less mid 💪

#

i like seeing her in defenderknights clears

desert sigil
#

she became "actually playable" i suppose HAHA

scarlet mortar
#

eun is basically the last resort for defknights

#

which is real funny

desert sigil
#

i recently lv 90 s3m3 her just to see the hype

scarlet mortar
#

every time she shows up you best expect a beatdown

desert sigil
#

quite late to the party tho

quick pecan
#

anyway stacking duelist module + ptilo all just to get an aurora that still takes 40s to charge s2 when not blocking is so CardAyy then again not like she’s never going to block something in that time before she needs to use skill

#

sometimes i question if santalla and kjera were given such heavy cold rng just to limit aurora

quick pecan
#

then again she is meant to duel so not like most ops will be deployed near her outside of like a medic maybe

desert sigil
#

idk i just dump saria behind her

#

its kind of pepega but quite fun too

quick pecan
#

the general power level and ease of use of current 6* just makes archetypes like dreadnought and duelist defender look even more middling

#

there are so many elites and bosses where you would once entertain dropping a dreadnought or duelist to deal with them

gray stone
#

Soloblade 💪

quick pecan
#

now your burst dps that kills the mobs kills the elite or boss anyway

#

or god forbid you mention the two limited executors

desert sigil
#

the anti fun characters MintCryCross

cosmic thicket
#

she be solo on my blade until i Gain up to +50 ASPD

quick pecan
#

i think there’s a place for the others if you need to stall / want a big body to tank as well but i mean

#

just circles back to burst dps and executors being spammable

desert sigil
#

sometimes i wish there was incentive to not bring some ops or maps that ban certain characters HellaKek

spark sinew
desert sigil
cyan gorge
quick pecan
#

yeah ngl as much as ppl meme fartooth

#

it’s not like bringing her loses you the stage lol

#

her cycle is also very forgiving when she gets griefed by her target priority

radiant mesa
#

Fartooth while she is not outstanding is still a 6* and has skills that let her leverage the stats you get from having more stars SkadiDaijoubu

desert sigil
#

s1 fartooth gaming?

#

or s2

vernal lion
#

lmao 3250 atk for a balling slug CeobeConfused

cosmic thicket
#

DUNG BEETLE

desert sigil
#

the curse of ra

gray stone
turbid badge
#

just give thwn stainless anglw

vernal lion
#

I'm finding the perfect enemies for Enforcer talent

#

guess what

gray stone
vernal lion
#

yea

vernal lion
#

and the rest is mostly like caster

glass monolith
#

So you push them into Windflit and Windflit dies?

foggy sparrow
#

these are the same fellas who made texalter and chalter

#

I'm pretty sure Arknights balancing is done by throwing a bunch of darts at a piece of paper with random numbers on it

stiff wedge
#

I tried Archetto although this flippers are my problem

#

Should I use Amiya or Steward ?

smoky halo
stiff wedge
smoky halo
stiff wedge
#

Although the problem now is S1 or S2 ?

smoky halo
#

s2 prolly better im guessing

stiff wedge
#

Is Cutter okay to be level 40 and E1 .in that position?

smoky halo
#

i nean if she can survive

#

sure

#

i dont see her surviving long tho against the last wave

#

so she needs external help there

stiff wedge
smoky halo
#

yah half the enemies coming there have high def and atk later

#

she cant solo it

turbid badge
#

i e2 ebenholz he op

stiff wedge
#

I have finish it thank you
Also could I do other Annaliliation other than this For that Maximum orundum ?

limpid siren
#

@flint falcon still using executor?

karmic glade
limpid siren
#

Meh it’s peanuts of sanity per week if you can’t auto the rotating

#

Unless you’re diligent about login times you probably lose as much or more to overcapping

stiff wedge
cosmic thicket
#

yeah it's only like 10 extra sanity or smth

limpid siren
#

I wouldn’t stress about it too much, cethanvel

foggy grove
#

1775,i guess you are not 400 killing anni 3 yet?

stiff wedge
#

Wait let me just send a pic here because it's causing a lot of confusion

limpid siren
stiff wedge
foggy grove
#

yeah you are good just proxy whichever you can do

fringe jackal
# stiff wedge

this is fine
in terms of sanity efficiency it's the rotating site > permanent 3 > permanent 2 > permanent 1
just do whichever if you aren't fussy
because once you have a 1800 cap it doesn't matter as much

jovial nest
#

doing some first time 400/400 clears on annis you've never done yet are a good idea

#

those 1st-clear rewards are great

#

and doing those while your orundum bar ain't full is the efficient way to do them

foggy grove
#

why would full or not matter

jovial nest
#

cause it bases your rewards in how much you killed

#

just leak no one and you get everything.

#

it's why Marsh has multiple red pips (and the one you haven't done yet are all white)

#

each of it a kill milestone for rewards

flint falcon
limpid siren
#

nah just checking

fluid fulcrum
limpid siren
#

damn FD-8 really is a pushover

lapis hornet
#

spoken like a pro gamer

tidal sedge
#

I don't get why some folks were fear mongers about it

cosmic thicket
#

OH NO BIG DODGE MAN SCARY

limpid siren
#

i could see it if the mobs were more dangerous

#

FD-3 sends more dangerous groups of enemies though

#

so FD-8 really is just whether or not you understand andoain

quick pecan
#

@limpid siren do you have hibiscus alter raised

#

i was gonna do astgenne bc of her skin but i already have leonhardt and kinda wanted something a bit different

limpid siren
#

yea

#

what's up?

quick pecan
#

oh i was just wondering how you feel about her

#

pre and post module

limpid siren
#

idk about post module one sec

#

i think she's fine as a hybrid, but less than the sum of her parts

#

i would generally prefer a mono-role arts dps or healer

#

guardians get away with their hybrid duties largely because they can block, and ig you could argue that hibiscus has some slow attached to her kit but i don't think it bridges the gap by enough

quick pecan
#

the slow is kinda small yeah

limpid siren
#

still, she's in that bucket of 5*s where they're totally fine and functional, just rarely record material

#

if that makes sense

quick pecan
#

i like that the module gives her more arts fragile at least

#

ngl i thought it was just gonna be something the whole archetype gets in one way or another

#

was pretty surprised when vendela didn’t get any

limpid siren
#

i don't mind it as much

#

vendela is at least unique

quick pecan
#

i wanna like her kit more

#

but i’m just stumped on where i would use it practically

limpid siren
#

she's a fine pick for general team building imo

quick pecan
#

i could make a guardian heal themself more ig

limpid siren
#

like

#

if i'm building a team i like to have between 1 and 2 "healer"

#

purifier is 0.5

#

so if i take silence and purifier it's 1.5, and i'm alright with that

quick pecan
#

i’m sure there’s a funny gimmick stage where you pair her with liskarm and just see the reflect actually do damage while liskarm gives someone sp

limpid siren
#

means i don't take a guardian

quick pecan
#

i can see a clickbait vidéo like that

limpid siren
#

or did you mean vendela

quick pecan
#

vendela

limpid siren
#

because she has a funny clickbait clear on 6-5 cm with croissant

quick pecan
#

is it her one arkrec clear

#

or is that different

limpid siren
#

it just hits different

#

she has a handful of others

#

not that many because new op + not traditionally powerful

#

but she's not in the company of like spuria and melanite

quick pecan
#

i’m gonna get a decent amount of copies of her regardless probably

#

bc i want hoederer

limpid siren
#

i need to write down my targets so i stop forgetting what i want

quick pecan
#

i want bassline + r6s

#

i think leto is nice but i’m ok skipping her atm

#

even though skipping degen is account damage

limpid siren
#

rn i'm thinking like leto, warmy, r6s

#

maybe i'll pull bassline just to see how he feels

quick pecan
#

i think i’m gonna hold off on warmy solely bc i want to see what burn ritualist does

limpid siren
#

oh quercus is on ch13 banner

#

might fish for my last quercus pot or vendela, whoever comes first

quick pecan
#

i want one more croissant pot

#

but i already bought two of her

#

and i feel like more kernel pulls when hoederer is near + long term desire for pulling double r6 is uhhh

#

i gotta save

void terrace
#

I'm a little surprised but it seems Chen alone is enough to reduce chongyues attacks to 3 per skill

#

Maybe he was killing rnemies

#

It's a bit weird. His atk interval is 0.78 and Chen gives 1 sp per 3s

#

So in theory it shouldn't even work

#

I think my eyes are bad

tidal sedge
#

I just realized neither S stage has Santalla as part of the pre-set team

#

Very strange

void terrace
#

immagine people malding over her rng fest s2 haha

rigid jacinth
#

Are def reduc artifacts additive or multiplicative

tidal sedge
rigid jacinth
#

Ty

cosmic thicket
tidal sedge
#

Curious. I wasn't playing then.

#

Actually that's even weirder as Wind Chimes s2 seems intended to work with Qiubai s2

quick pecan
#

i’m malding

waxen swan
#

This one was easy

#

You spreading them too thin

tidal sedge
#

Hmm.

quick pecan
#

i forgot to activate specter skill and archers killed hung MudPog

waxen swan
#

You should back them more to blue

polar crane
quick pecan
#

there’s 5* 4 op

#

uses scene tho

polar crane
quick pecan
spark sinew
#

that's... quite a setup

tidal sedge
#

No Pluma?

quick pecan
#

i’ve done everything else i just need to do this stage cm ReedBean

glass monolith
#

NL archers is spawn kill or be killed DIE

quick pecan
#

not to corrosion but bc specter block the sleep dudes periodically as they wake up

tidal sedge
#

Pluma s2 sweeps them

quick pecan
#

wow imagine having masteries on s2 SkadiDaijoubu

#

i’m skill book broke

polar crane
#

imagine you dont have m6 pluma

tidal sedge
#

s2 is the better skill

glass monolith
#

S1M3 because i lazy f- RosChill

tidal sedge
#

Is it me or are s2 masteries actually rather substantial for it

quick pecan
#

they are

#

pretty large

#

iirc

#

man they make it so hard to get light to that left most ranged tile

tidal sedge
#

Extra 15% atk interval reduction, +15% extra atk, another +10% vs low hp foes

quick pecan
#

firewatch would cook

tidal sedge
#

Yeah that's quite a lot for 5*

quick pecan
#

maybe i bring kafka to help with faster light

#

and try my firewatch spawn kill

tidal sedge
#

The archers attacking fast was annoying for dollkeeper bait strats

quick pecan
#

well i brought hung bc 15% dr

#

even if he loses def he still cuts their damage

tidal sedge
#

They'll designate targets during swap invuln GavialPensive

quick pecan
#

but i’m dumb and didn’t realize he was dying and didn’t press s2 pinch

limpid siren
limpid siren
#

holding mid is quite rough

#

for no benefit

#

bad ranged tiles means no support for top lane

void terrace
#

is eyjalter s1m3 worth?

full finch
#

not really

void terrace
#

i realise i use a lot of enimity ops and the elemental healing is suddenly looking tasty

full finch
#

maybe if you wanna cope the elemental regen

void terrace
#

HAHA

full finch
#

but like
maybe don't

void terrace
#

i mean i use it a bunch in IS

#

just wondering how much it will apply is is4

quick pecan
void terrace
#

sl7 healing is strong but the ele regen is sub par

quick pecan
#

that’s when hung died lol

tidal sedge
#

Are the gains for ele healing even good on s1

limpid siren
#

you can play at the blue boxes and tank all archers though, so if you're not killing them fast you're not gaining anything by fighting forward

tidal sedge
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Extra 2% regen/sec. Extra 10% atk

void terrace
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hmmm

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thats lower than what i thought

quick pecan
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i chose mid bc getting light near blue boxes felt snore ReedBean

limpid siren
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my team looks about the same as yours, so you can definitely get it done

quick pecan
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waiting on some sanity to try again

limpid siren
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no matter where you choose to fight

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💪

quick pecan
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yeah it’s possible

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just gotta pay attention to my skill timings

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but yeah that four op

limpid siren
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is that an e1 lappland though

quick pecan
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real scene mald

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nah she’s e2

limpid siren
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scene clears DelaceySleep

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i sleep

civic bear
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the intended way to play 5*

limpid siren
quick pecan
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i play on iphone so bar is stuck there forever when playing with phone sideways smh

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apple issue

civic bear
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just like ling is to 6*

limpid siren
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boring

long epoch
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Use Mayor instead, she's less boring. BlitzSmile

quick pecan
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it was scene

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  • harmonie s2
limpid siren
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based harmonie usage

quick pecan
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so buggy positioning + making sure they block at the right time for harmonie s2

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i’m like yeah

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they are gamer

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but i sleep

tidal sedge
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Probably better to run numbers for whatever scenarios you're encountering to see if that's worthwhile

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Oh wait it's even less than 70. I forgot trait is only half of normal hps

gray stone
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How long is Noir Corne redep time compared to Spot

foggy grove
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1s faster

gray stone
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lmao

quick pecan
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ok we good

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redeployed firewatch to kill what almost leaked

tidal sedge
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Hm.

quick pecan
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i got so close to messing up again

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i was focused somewhere else and i looked and noir had like 200 hp PepeLaugh

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luckily s2 was up