u cooked 300's waves
#strategy
green gazelle
Damn fuvked up the last part
peak cloak
lets me fix it, wait a bit
green gazelle
Wrong skill on gg and still almost win I think I need to get my timing right more next time bot side is the one messing up the most
peak cloak
i have a note, wait until boss come and start activing Mlynar skill
wait for me a bit
fixing deployment
green gazelle
Yeah that's fine I'm gonna wash our dishes before trying again
grand moth
can someone help me beat 2-8
peak cloak
@green gazelle
dont worry about gg placement cuz her s2 can reach cuora
Typhone can reach chen
cuora at distance to maximize firewhistle dmg
and small gap so that u can use Silence drone
to heal up everyone
green gazelle
The only problem I think is Can coura survive the onslaught of enemies but i think with 3 medic she should survive right
smoky halo
<@996742462980763718>
is his perf e2?
green gazelle
E1 lvl 50
peak cloak
i dont think so haha
smoky halo
i feel like perf will get 1 tapped by fire proc
but then again eyjav2 prevents that ig
peak cloak
okay, so far: u active Mlynar skill when boss come to his range
@green gazelle for the reserve ops: Lappland, another medic and another defender cuz yato wont do much here
green gazelle
Yeah might switch yato with gravel
peak cloak
Gravel? XD
glass monolith
peak cloak
š§
green gazelle
Cause faster redeploy and more tanky probably can survive 2 hits from boss
peak cloak
but oh, reminds me about last stream
becareful with Gravel placement cuz i saw there were some moments your ranged ops nearly get oneshotted by ranged guys
do u want to do another round? if not then i will go outside to breath fresh air
green gazelle
I will do another round probably later cause im cooking rn
peak cloak
remember: active Mlynar skill when boss in his range and becareful with Gravel placement, i think u can cooked this annihilation
green gazelle
I will do another round probably later cause im cooking rn
Damn I just realized I typed cocking instead of cooking
sullen rover
youre cocking?
green gazelle
youre cocking?
It's a typo my bad
green gazelle
remember: active Mlynar skill when boss in his range and becareful with Gravel p...
Hey bro I think I'm ready to challenge it again
Other than the timing and placement of ops anything should I change?
peak cloak
Other than the timing and placement of ops anything should I change?
bring lappland, another medic and defender as reserve units
green gazelle
Should I stream it again or nah?
peak cloak
dig Exu and Yato out
peak cloak
Should I stream it again or nah?
last stream was so lagging, does it the same for you?
green gazelle
No my screen is fine might be the delay on stream that makes it laggy
peak cloak
okay sure, then stream again
@green gazelle for the phase 2 eblana, first try to bait aoe dmg with maybe your reserve defender or lappland
which can oneshot your low level ops haha
wait a bit lets me swtich to phone
green gazelle
Which defender should I bring
green gazelle
Mullberry?
green gazelle
Looks like no
radiant quartz
how do you guys do BSL in IS?
radiant quartz
so it's basically a DPS check for both damage and healing?
foggy grove
ye don't point fast hitting dps on bear
peak cloak
haha xD
green gazelle
My bad
radiant quartz
well that'll be fun...
foggy grove
every 20 instance of damage bear will do global arts dmg
peak cloak
@green gazelle wait, cuora placement is wrobg
wrong
oh nvm, firewhistle still can hit
radiant quartz
every 20 instance of damage bear will do global arts dmg
how much HP does the shield have?
peak cloak
<@996742462980763718>
.
foggy grove
45k if you are on normal mode
radiant quartz
what the shit
peak cloak
@green gazelle retreat cuora too, so that gg can hit with s2
radiant quartz
and how much DEF and RES does it have?
peak cloak
move cuora a tile backward
foggy grove
700 def,60 res
green gazelle
Wait i gotte need to ran an erand
peak cloak
what erand?
foggy grove
stuff like pallas,schwarz,exe shred bear
pozy too but she hit a lil bit faster
peak cloak
okay sure
green gazelle
My grandma ask me to buy something it's on a nearby store
peak cloak
sure
green gazelle
Ok Im back
peak cloak
still there
green gazelle
Is my mic on?
peak cloak
i didnt hear anything
green gazelle
Wait let me rejoin call it's bugging
peak cloak
but u need mic for ?
green gazelle
No it's showing my mic is on
peak cloak
@green gazelle looks like u get lagged
green gazelle
My phone auto aborts the call but I'm still on anni
peak cloak
okay, u can stream it back if u wanted
green gazelle
The anni might reset cause to share my screen I need to go to the discord app
I almost won
Mylnar get stunned
And then everything falls apart
green gazelle
okay, u can stream it back if u wanted
Looks like I need better rng on gg explosion
peak cloak
Mylnar get stunned
who stunned him?
vital arrow
eblana probably
peak cloak
š§lets me check her mechanics again
green gazelle
The boss stunned him on the beginning then after hegot off stun I activate skill and got stunned again
vital arrow
ebalana stuns disables 1 enemy on phase 2
then pops them
did you use yato S2 on eblana
green gazelle
did you use yato S2 on eblana
I didn't bring yato
vital arrow
who did you bring
green gazelle
This but I replaced yato and exu with penance and mulberry
green gazelle
The boss and flames are the problem
vital arrow
might want to use GG S2
scarlet mortar
the explosion hurts quite a lot and happens whether or not you try breaking it iirc
vital arrow
you dont have a fast hitter
green gazelle
Yeah I did use skill 2
scarlet mortar
just bait it away
green gazelle
did you borrow chongyue
No eyja alt
spark sinew
is it s3 eyjalt
peak cloak
he did but lack of heals or die to burn dmg
vital arrow
then you dont need more than her as healer
spark sinew
since you have mulb already
vital arrow
eyja s1m3 is enough as solo healer
vital arrow
is penance on s2 or s3
green gazelle
S2 cause she is still E1
vital arrow
she holds the lane just fine? or
green gazelle
she holds the lane just fine? or
Bait
vital arrow
ok thats a dead slot then
void terrace
Chong and mylnar kinda body this level tho. With your 3 healers they should be able to handle. Mylnar can bait the fire and Chong can destroy it
peak cloak
need Honey
while he isnt hasing
@green gazelle okay, so dig penance out, u replace with Gravel, when the boss in Mlynar range, try to block with Gravel
green gazelle
Will try that after I eat dinner
peak cloak
block right there
glass monolith
ebalana stuns disables 1 enemy on phase 2
Eblana phase 2 is that shit now targets 2 characters 
scarlet mortar
uh you can't bait with mlynar there
gravel can take the second disarm but mlynar will eat one for sure
peak cloak
i think he has to š
oh and retreat gravel as soon as u defeat eblana.
redeploy her quickly when cd time is over
to like the bottom mid lane
so that i think she can baits
@green gazelle hey, can you send me your defender ops again? appreciate for that
peak cloak
last run he almost finish that boss, Mlynar timing was eh so the run failed
green gazelle
Here
Might need to raise gummy what you guys think? Or more strategy and luck on gg explosion?
peak cloak
where u place her tho. there is no perfect spot that she can shoot two lanes
green gazelle
Im gonna try again rn will update you guys at 350 kills
Oh right gravel is E0 lvl 45
green gazelle
vital arrow
replace chestnut and breeze with more blockers
green gazelle
Mylnar survived the boss but 2 of my healers died instead
vital arrow
bait it
spark sinew
force close the app if you want to save sanity
green gazelle
So everyone became a paper
vital arrow
you didnt borrow eyjaberry?
green gazelle
you didnt borrow eyjaberry?
I did
vital arrow
how did she die
peak cloak
explosions
vital arrow
she shouldnt
peak cloak
i saw it
vital arrow
what level
green gazelle
Splash damage is a bitch
vital arrow
my eyjaberry didnt take any damage
vital arrow
@green gazelle try this setup
green gazelle
My eyja is on the four thingy on the left side most
green gazelle
Yeah
green gazelle
Might lvl 40 mylnar to squeeze some more damage should I do it?
vital arrow
probably wouldnt matter
peak cloak
yea, thing matter here will be Mlynar masteries. not sure if u even had m3 as i havent yet asked that information
foggy grove
mlynar trust and mastery is pretty big yeah
waxen swan
Ra 2 permanent rights?
foggy grove
ye
green gazelle
You guys are fucking madlad it fucking work lets go!!!!!!!
When perfumer dies I put silence at her bottom and mulberry at her side to unli heal but Cuora died so I had to lay down myrtle and gravel to buy time for mylnar skill
sullen rover
your welcome
green gazelle
Thank you guys
@peak cloak @vital arrow Thank you guys for helping me clear this stage
vital arrow
When perfumer dies I put silence at her bottom and mulberry at her side to unli ...
honestly just eyjaberry alone is enough as a medic
but if it works, it works
green gazelle
If you look at the ops position and orientation it looks like an arrow head or a spear head(minus mylnar looking down)
vital arrow
the fewer ops you use in this map the better
since eyjaberry can just heal the important ones
green gazelle
the fewer ops you use in this map the better
Yeah that will be hard for me I think my ops just ain't strong enough for this
vital arrow
I meant as in you can ditch the other medics
since only 2 ops should be taking heavy damage
but then again your ops might not be leveled enough
steep coral
vital arrow
huh?
scarlet mortar
the surrender da person arriveth
spark sinew
š¤
how did people clear 11-15 adverse again
is spawncamping left side the answer
or just extreme clustering of ops + turtling up is the way to go
sullen rover
pretty sure i just spam a bunch of 6 stars and win 
latent anvil
it was just suzu s2 map
vital arrow
I borrowed eben for that
spark sinew
artillery hurts quite a bit
ok so only 2 of them spawn on the left it seems
yeah clustering works fine
just need to nuke the two ones on the left
spark sinew
||degen with skalter one skill the artillery ||
scarlet mortar
there's one on the right but by that point i just managed
spark sinew
actually a bad unit, doesn't kill it without skalter
scarlet mortar
pretty sure i just spam a bunch of 6 stars and win <:CeobeConfused:1151875108844...
close enough
grizzled otter
~~how did people clear 11-15 adverse again~~
mlynar
scarlet mortar
ig you could say the niche was "fucking around with a side of finding out"
it's pretty hilarious how this broke so i'm not fixing it
spark sinew
mlynar
yeah no mly
but yeah, clustering the ops and then killing 2 artillery thingies worked (if you get hit by 4 of them you die)
void terrace
Damn
Why have I been coping Chen as a laneholder
Idk why but I just like her battery dodge and her elite clearing on s3
glass monolith
Why have I been coping Chen as a laneholder
Because it is funny to kill stuff with S2 
scarlet mortar
Idk why but I just like her battery dodge and her elite clearing on s3
eh no that's precisely how i use her
not much to say other than she got stat crept
void terrace
Her cool down is so short on s3
You can get double s3 in aak ult
With perfect timing
Saileach helps a widen the window
Idk how that's useful but
It's fun watching her spam ult
spark sinew
Idk why but I just like her battery dodge and her elite clearing on s3
i mean that's literally all she has
void terrace
I knowwww
Idk why but stacking her in front of Chong yue with a stainless turret is fun
Turret fires fast
sudden coral
hello
cyan gorge
The legend appears in the flesh
foggy grove
š
spark sinew
spark sinew
man i didn't know it was that bad
the only guy in #friend-id that even mentioned her once just has s2m3
@latent anvildo you want to raise an op unit
scarlet mortar
become ungovernable
spark sinew
i got a unit for you
latent anvil
who 
latent anvil
jieyun huh
i think shes good in taht one stage in ch12
where its a drone and you have like no dp
scarlet mortar
where its a drone and you have like no dp
12-17 AE?
spark sinew
but it's impressive how hard it is to find s1m3 to test
scarlet mortar
there's 12-17 and 12-18 AE's with DP down 2.5 and reduced cap respectively, not sure which you're referring to
snow juniper
I'm trying to beat kyostin's LS-5 video with this team, but stuff keeps dying when they shouldn't be. What's going wrong? first team is mine, second team is the guide's
spark sinew
there are too options to "help" here
we can work with what we have and refine strt etc
or we can ignore LS-5 cause it's kinda ass to farm
and focus on pushing story and maybe e2ing a 4*
scarlet mortar
tbh yh never got much use out of LS-5
you're better off grinding chip stages or the like if you don't have any immediate mats to farm
snow juniper
My 6* rn are mlynar, poz, penance, weedy
5* are amiya, ayerscarpe, lappland, silence, cliff heart, grani
scarlet mortar
DV's coming real soon so you can dump more sanity there
snow juniper
Wait actually? I thought she'd be kinda terrible bc of the limited dp generation
spark sinew
btw don't invest into grani and ayer at all
vital arrow
Vanguards exist
scarlet mortar
LS-5 is this stage ftr
snow juniper
Yeah
vital arrow
Who are your *4s
snow juniper
vital arrow
Raise cutter
scarlet mortar
i smell guide watcher syndrome
vital arrow
Also use your mlynar
scarlet mortar
think you've nearly gotten all the good 4*s
spark sinew
e1 1 those later
scarlet mortar
while you're farming for mlynar and penance try getting a solid 4* squad to deal with the more annoying enemies
the 3*s have stats but they're omega plain
snow juniper
<:ReedBean:1151601576700559390>
That's for LS-5, this is what my normal team looks like
vital arrow
That's for LS-5, this is what my normal team looks like
Yeah just keep using that, except weedy
Or penance ig
Idk why you're shafting your squad just because the guide says so 
scarlet mortar
there's totter for anti-stealth, jaye for a self-sufficient assassin, perfumer whose talent can help keep penance topped up while being a decent aoe medic
you've already raised silence so aoe healing isn't a major concern ig, but wouldn't hurt
snow juniper
So should I just drop ls5 for now and just keep going through the campaign? I'm at s2-3
scarlet mortar
that squad can probs finish chapter 2 if you're willing to mald your way through
it has the stats
vital arrow
Either works
foggy grove
don't e1 max unless you are planning to e2 straight off
3* e1 max is fine for talent upgrade
vital arrow
I was planning to farm resource levels, e1max my 5/6*s then blitz the story
Sounds like a bad idea
Because yout base is the best source of passive income
You're throwing away sanity for exp and LMD when your base can make it out of thin air
glass monolith
"Best" = Only. Unless you cope all those daily login 
, and daily missions are finished in cross fire regardless of your priorities
spark sinew
So should I just drop ls5 for now and just keep going through the campaign? I'm ...
100%
rush rush campaign, at least until like 3-8 or wherever the thingy for CC4 drops
glass monolith
Oh yea he need 4-7 or 4-9 to have ability to max base anyway
tidal sedge
Oh right...
Andoain is bs...
fringe jackal
It's not feasible to do that. Each run of CE-6 gives like 10k lmd but costs 36 sanity. 240 sanity given daily. Then you'd also need to farm exp. But a 6 star unit costs like 760,000 LMD for e260. And mod would make that total 1 mill. But then you would have no sanity to farm the materials for promo. Meanwhile base gives like 50+k lmd and that much exp per day as a freebie
@snow juniper just rush 3-8 and start farming mats and building base ^
snow juniper
k
spark sinew
why did you pop him up only in the middle
how did he wipe you either, did you put all ops together and let it bounce? don't
gentle finch
wow!
spark sinew
he punishes not using mechanics, but he's very much fair (especially for developed accs that can just ignore his dodge)
foggy grove
Why surtr borrow
tidal sedge
Idk...
spark sinew
foggy grove
Anyhow you can kill phase 1 top with kal
tidal sedge
I TRIED
foggy grove
Casmiya for phase 2 or something
spark sinew
just borrow pozy/schwarz tbh
surtr is kinda ass borrow anyway
wait wtf you have pozy
spark sinew
kill phase 1 with kal on the bot right
kill phase 2 with pozy top right
stage done
spark sinew
how did he wipe you either, did you put all ops together and let it bounce? don'...
more importantly
tidal sedge
Ok.
tidal sedge
kill phase 2 with pozy top right
Pozy gets bombed by mortars tho
And do i just...ignore the stop?
spark sinew
show the team
although meh
phase 1 will be done (mop up with executors)
wait for screenwipe, deploy pozy and then your tank
you win
i used those because you seem to have them
but you also can just not use executors as well
even undeployed my kal for you (but lvl90 survives the wipe)
round yew
If you're having trouble with the scan, heavyrain can save some of your ops with s2
spark sinew
shrug
with your team i would just let him wipe your team (which would only be Kal) and then deploy pozy and a tank
tidal sedge
Got it
spark sinew
he won't live for another screenwipe
tidal sedge
Frd spam
tidal sedge
Lol
spark sinew
everything just dies there
spark sinew
Frd spam
well this is just a minimal example that uses your ops and i knew for sure would clear
feel free to use other ops
just don't ever deploy ops in 8 tiles adjacent to each other
unless they're outside of ando range
gelato stops also count (if you killed them)
halcyon adder
Use typhon s2
spark sinew
i cleared it with s3 and it was fine i think
just used s3 when it's ready basically
although they probably cleared the stage already
cosmic thicket
s3 was much more braindead yeah
halcyon adder
S2 is more brain-dead,u barely need other units
tidal sedge
I had to run an errand so i havent been able to do another attempt
glass monolith
Oh right...
Andoain is bs...
BS is exploding car leak counting
spark sinew
actually do 4* have dodge ignore op
i know 5* have at least two (three if you cope amiya to count as 2?)
tidal sedge
Lol
tidal sedge
i know 5* have at least two (three if you cope amiya to count as 2?)
Valarqvin too kinda
Gdi
Are you doing some sort of challenge
FD-S-2
Why are you letting buffers live
...
turbid badge
look to the right
tidal sedge
Typhon with s3 can sweep all buffers and shieldguards if you're inclined to do so
spark sinew
is this s2
tidal sedge
Yes
spark sinew
that's on you
sly pivot
have u tried moving ptilo to right and face down?
and camp the blue box with 4 other units
tidal sedge
...
sly pivot
u got this
tidal sedge
Typhons targetings feels really weird sometimes
sly pivot
yea its kinda janky
tidal sedge
As in where the mark falls
sly pivot
ure better off cancelling s3 and just wait for it to charge again to get a better mark
if ure struggling with where the mark goes
tidal sedge
How the hell...? Mrgrgr.
sly pivot
what if u setup on left lane
where shieldguards dont walk around
just shove ptilo and all the bozos on left
and let typhon kill anything tough
cosmic thicket
can't you use estelle to spawncamp bozos
tidal sedge
Just tried that...
cosmic thicket
how tf did ptilo die
tidal sedge
Stick wavers
tidal sedge
Omg this is annoying...
sly pivot
im sorry i fucked up
turns out having 2 enemies in her range kills her dmg
i really thought it would kill
tidal sedge
typhon position was
Shes in the same spot tho...
spark sinew
btw guys what do you think of "tall" knights as a niche
it would probably need to ban males right
spark sinew
because it looked like malekights with hoshiguma when i checked 
tidal sedge
Lol
spice gust
horn + typ so wombo combo 
spark sinew
14 with degen and valarq
spark sinew
there's a lot of 171 and 172 ops though
tidal sedge
How do i get her to target the buffers and not shields?
sly pivot
she does NOT kill
tidal sedge
How do i get her to target the buffers and not shields?
Wait until they pass her range
You can also use Earthspirit to hold the shieldguards somewhere else for a while
If you drop Typhon immediately at map start, she can lock onto a herald with s3 when the shieldguards leave her range
Thankfully this costs no sanity
Then the marked spot will let her chip passing shieldguards and pop the next 2 heralds
But I end s3 after when a herald waits outside of it
spark sinew
oh is that how you were supposed to use melee units
tidal sedge
So put Typhon down immediately?
Yeah. The goons at the left take like 20 seconds to spawn
tidal sedge
oh is that how you were supposed to use melee units
I mean it's not like Estelle or Mousse like to tangle with shieldguards
glass monolith
Hey i am not only one suffering on this map
round yew
The shields have taunt iirc
cosmic thicket
14 with degen and valarq
has degen so invalid 
glass monolith
And not the heralds
You have Red and Mousse for reason
tidal sedge
There we go
spark sinew
has degen so invalid <:BlitzSmile:826566618322436116>
even without degen
seems a bit too bulky to me
spark sinew
well i used gamepress list but should be accurate
even though the same list had harold's combat exp as 0
when his profile states 41
spark sinew
And no VGs...
eh just pozy open/glad/indra
tidal sedge
Fair
spark sinew
indra usage, take it while it's hot
spark sinew
that's actually why i was looking into it
limpid siren
tidal sedge
Lol
spark sinew
giving it a closer look, i have no idea what this emote is supposed to represent
scarlet fulcrum
Actually possible with s1 
limpid siren
@sly pivot
turbid badge
wat
limpid siren
You might just be bad khant
flint falcon
wait u can change skill in that? 
tidal sedge
Yes
When you first try to play the S maps the game even gives a pop-up about it
I stick to the defaults since I find it fun to figure the designer's train of thought regarding the default choices
bold lance
Whoever defaulted Earthspirit to S2 in that one was cooking something fierce.
tidal sedge
It makes sense, use it to slow multiple shieldguards to create a bigger gap for Red or Typhon to kill heralds
sly pivot
You might just be bad khant
limpid siren
it's okay i still love u
sly pivot
this is why i dont use w*man
turbid badge
lol
latent anvil
spark sinew
wgz pro
is jieyun mastery underway
turbid badge
my s2 is m3
turbid badge
spark sinew
latent anvil
wgz pro rich now?
no you rich pro
spark sinew
latent anvil
i wanted to test s1
but its not even auto
if im gonna do s1 like this it gonna be like ifrit s1 or something
spark sinew
this is infinitely more clears than valarqvin s1
latent anvil
hauckindu pro
spark sinew
if im gonna do s1 like this it gonna be like ifrit s1 or something
it's not even auto
latent anvil
is erato close enough
spark sinew
no
spark sinew
lunacub has skills?
sullen rover
5 stars has skill 1 and skill 2
and amiya has skill 1 2 3
spark sinew
big if true
spark sinew
ok yeah don't bother with her
although both skills are dog
i probably should've done erato s2m3
sullen rover
do u have windflit s1m3
spark sinew
do you
turbid badge
thats what friends are for
sullen rover
no thats why im asking
spark sinew
- seek help
- no, but we do have a guy with maxed windlift if you actually need it
sullen rover
i havent try him yet so idk
turbid badge
theres some cope in starting is with him
spark sinew
when you are trying too hard
turbid badge
but thats reserved for when your really bored
spark sinew
it's too obvious that you're trolling
sullen rover
can u give me tips on how to troll better
turbid badge
change name
spark sinew
can u give me tips on how to troll better
don't
sullen rover
why..
latent anvil
oh
spark sinew
that's wind chimes
limpid siren
discount rathalos
quick pecan
that's wind chimes
iām talking about raising generic atk up
thatās what andreana s1 is too
spark sinew
there's raising generic atk up
and then there's raising wind chimes s1
different things
limpid siren
flashback to days of leizi s1
spark sinew
i was too slow
but yeah probably the most well known one
i don't count AH tbh
i've seen AH players use s1 specter s1 andreana and whatever else
limpid siren
every now and then i think about mastering spec s1
but tbh it's just so i can be lazy with timing
quick pecan
ayers s1 is how i realized afk bros are wrong actually
spark sinew
do stainless turrets fire "immediately"
they don't seem to need to have "animation" or whatever
like on powerstrikes
am i tripping
limpid siren
they have a projectile right?
can't pretend i've seen stainless turrets in action very often
cyan gorge
They activate like a powerstrike skill and fires a projectile
limpid siren
weak gazelle
IS#4 on march 5 huh
wish it earlier so i can immidietly grind it
tidal sedge
The sp lockout is very short
limpid siren
arkhy will teach me how to play IS4 š
spark sinew
yep they do have sp lockout
quick pecan
sp lockout my behated
spark sinew
it's just super short indeed
tall cairn
š what is sp lockout.
weak gazelle
nonono
igneus will teach me instead
spark sinew
cursed combo
weak gazelle
hope no summoner reliant again or else will skip it again
tall cairn
Why is Bryo there.
quick pecan
how dare you question scene supremacy
limpid siren
š what is sp lockout.
when a skill is active, a unit's sp bar turns orange and ticks down for its duration
even most instantly activated skills still have a short duration of this orange bar
they call it sp lockout because units typically cannot generate or be gifted sp during this period
quick pecan
actually nvm is3 said mayer > scene
spark sinew
i uhh, reused my 1-7 trust farm that also was used to get jieyun module req
tall cairn
when a skill is active, a unit's sp bar turns orange and ticks down for its dura...
Ah alright thx. 
weak gazelle
good you realised earlier
i wanna point that out
quick pecan
siege s3 bypass lockout šŖ
limpid siren
siege talent 
quick pecan
trueing
weak gazelle
ohh iana kit out
hmm... this is a good sign as utility oriented
spark sinew
doesn't bypass the strongest enemy of them all though
weak gazelle
not yet
where?
limpid siren
turbid badge
yes
limpid siren
limpid siren
skin has a similar deploy animation
spark sinew
where did you guys seen the skins
turbid badge
in my fav cn server
weak gazelle
ohh that was a nice one
quick pecan
idk how much damage iana will do on s2
like still canāt tell if theyāre putting the utility for her to full support others
weak gazelle
i see... hope iana numbers would be nice too
i like her kit idea in general
quick pecan
bc the invis for self makes me question she at least does some damage
limpid siren
i won't hold my breath for her damage
weak gazelle
just didnt want to see the numbers fall into nuke teritoy
because not used to nuke gampelay
quick pecan
invis
limpid siren
huh invis
turbid badge
tl correc
limpid siren
interesting
weak gazelle
i mean nuke teritoy as fast cycle and duration
limpid siren
HG more confident to give out invis these days
quick pecan
unless the source i saw was incorrect
weak gazelle
they have to do that earlier
when i only cope ely as my only invisible counter
limpid siren
another invis reveal is kinda cool
rn she seems like a unit that can survive without much help though
but i'm interested to see her cycles
quick pecan
the wording i see in translations is "stealth"
weak gazelle
agreed
and dunno hologram mean
its like temporary summon thing like sham doll?
limpid siren
rn hologram just seems like another doll-like entity
but every time people talk about it, i leave more confused
so i'm just waiting for launch
weak gazelle
it say it can be attacked
hmmm... this is the weird part indeed
so maybe have hp/block or something
limpid siren
if it has 0 block then it has to have a timer, because otherwise she's totally reliant on ranged enemies
i can see it having at least 1 block count though
quick pecan
well my thought process was if thatās the case and she doesnāt get attacked then you could still use skill
to get to substitute outright
but not sure
they could always count the hologram as a different entity that doesnāt have access to skill activation
but then ppl create a distinction between it and substitute which makes me even more confused lol
limpid siren
yea
weak gazelle
tbh no idea
i just speculating, in my mind hologram would be have taunt at least
that much is minimum i think
limpid siren
lol
weak gazelle
or else how she proc phys fragile(?)
spark sinew
i assumed hologram is the typical 2 block š¤
weak gazelle
yeah seem like it
with this kit idc her dmg output at all
all i care is her skill cycle and hologram
civic bear
should be 2 block ye
quick pecan
i wanna know initial sp too
and total sp
need to know if sheās forgiving if i just throw her someone by herself
quick pecan
thereās so much going on for 5* rn
three ops waiting for numbers and cycles and then two 5* modules
limpid siren
after release was a lot of back and forth about his potential as a buff target, skill dps ceiling, etc
weak gazelle
fuze is uhh...
knowing his kit, i didnt expect much
he is tile dependant in the first place so no matter how good the number would be it wont improve his value that high
tidal sedge
That's what I'm hoping for too
But even if he does, if it's tied to talent it's probably going to be weaker than Pallas's.
spark sinew
he's an instructor?
tidal sedge
Yes
spark sinew
doomposting time
somber stone
Better than Pallas trust
tidal sedge
Bryo has a competent buff numbers-wise, it's just what's the use of a def buff from an instructor exactly
They just need to channel that into something more useful
spark sinew
every time i tried to use instructors i was disappointed, so i honestly only remember them for the base skills
pallas is alright but 6*, go figure
hard to imagine 5* support unit being useful, honestly
they seem to be afraid to print anything without really nerfing numbers
quick pecan
they peaked at elysium and shamare
tall cairn
quick pecan
thatās still a support
spark sinew
but come on
fair, yeah
i meant the buffing one
unless HG will cook some debuff instructor
iana is quite unique, so maybe
quick pecan
i think at first everyone was just confused by the absolute overload of hologram, substitute, and iana all in one
then there were the iffy translations
i do agree that itās unique
tidal sedge
Is this the context of all ops or just 5*
tall cairn
Base skill not released yet right.
quick pecan
i would say 5*
spark sinew
i mean it's R6 collab
quick pecan
since stuff like ines and shu exist
spark sinew
i don't expect shit for base
MH one also was...fine?
not groundbreaking by any stretch of imagination
quick pecan
mh was nice for me personally
my higher proviso partners are gated by me doing higher stuff on right
spark sinew
removes the cap on blitz's base skill idr if it even has a cap
quick pecan
or doin stuff like four gold line pozy durin bs
spark sinew
i only really remember blitz being discussed in the context of that cursed ursus+taachanka+ash combo
spark sinew
yeah people just hyped morale thingy instead both suck so
turbid badge
tachankas drink
turbid badge
i only really remember blitz being discussed in the context of that cursed ursus...
lol yea
spark sinew
wait how did you know about it
i thought this was burried in the literal depths of riic hell
tall cairn
How much OF was it?
turbid badge
muy tachanka is e2
spark sinew
it was not worth it is what i remember
tall cairn
Oh lmao. 
turbid badge
lol
spark sinew
also what's OF
turbid badge
i just ask what is that juice skill tachanka has
spark sinew
that's an abbreviation alright
turbid badge
I know right?
spark sinew
a lot of things
sullen rover
obsidian festival?
merry narwhal
every time i tried to use instructors i was disappointed, so i honestly only rem...
i unironically think that Agents do their role better (they can even hit air)
scarlet mortar
why those stages only have 0 san lmao
the normal and extra stages originally dropped tokens, not actual mats
so they have no value in sanity now that those tokens are scrapped
i assume that's the surface reason anw, no sane person would farm there but yh
vernal lion
2 more days till IS4
graceful bear
They even designed the Darklight trio to be Hoederer front, Ines behind and W on overwatch
Also, Lords which can also hit air
Is Typhon start possible at mid-Ascension IS3? I can't get her out fast enough to not leak
quick pecan
fuck my life
tidal sedge
I draft Lava with her to help.
spark sinew
it's possible but she's kinda iffy start
graceful bear
I'm guessing the problem is Symbiosis?
YEP
merry narwhal
can't you do Highmorb start and grab Typhon later
tidal sedge
tidal sedge
This is how I do it but I'm not exactly well-versed in IS nuances
spark sinew
but this was d15
idk what exactly is "mid asc"
tidal sedge
At sw11 I can do it without leaks if I'm willing to burn a die
merry narwhal
prolly d7
tidal sedge
I'm assuming sw7-11
dark glade
While healing elemental damage, provide shelter, and cure negative status
tall cairn
Insane.
compact shoal
S1 seems self heal, s2 seems healing ops in front
tidal sedge
Crusader Crossbow in AK?
foggy grove
itās so joever
lmao there is no hope
what kind of healing warrant that limitation
quick pecan
tidal sedge
Oh ho.
foggy grove
even if it full heals,it'll still be bad
tidal sedge
Will BlitzSmile have a successor?
glass monolith
3 time per deploy use 10% heal or 9001% damage 
quick pecan
our last hope is coping module + potential second talent
foggy grove
no no
i literally gave up
spark sinew
i wonder how big is the atk interval decrease
quick pecan
even his talent reminded me of enforcer
enforcer not getting skill that does damage tho
foggy grove
your only cope is s1 has good dps
quick pecan
thatās my only cope
there is at least some copium bc of instructor innate atk scale + he can be put on ranged tile
the warf positioning will be less mald with full stage tile access
quick pecan
iām not sweating 10% atk scale tbh
would rather have the deploy flexibility
esp if his goofy ass only got three skill use per deployment
foggy grove
tidal sedge
Hm. It has hp buff attached so it might not be as high as Executor or Enforcer ye
Now I'm reminding myself of how I'd like to see more Spreadshooters
sullen rover
whaats doc skill...
sullen rover
holy shit it looks... horrible..
tidal sedge
Doubtful. I think they know folks would abuse that with Surtr
scarlet mortar
abusing that with surtr is like one of the least helpful things you could do with that skill
like damn that's gone in 3s again
at least say spalter S3
tidal sedge
Hm. I forgot the ramping gets that high it seems
sullen rover
i think its joever for doctor.. he was dead on arrival as an 5* instructor anyways...
tidal sedge
Oh. It takes 60 seconds to get that high?
scarlet mortar
60s at 1x is 30s at 2x lmao
it's relatively fast
you're not gonna cope surtr hospital with doc anw, surtr wants consistent heals
warf's better if you really want hp% heals
glass monolith
Slaps Nearl, Slaps friend supporter module 3 NG because who on earth does it out of their free will, slap Taye, slap Warf
tidal sedge
Even if his numbers are somehow competent I'm not really feeling it with this kit.
glass monolith
At least instructor means cheap af to deploy
tidal sedge
I'll stick to incantation medics probably for dps + healing hybrid
limpid siren
Damn doc sounds bad rn
tidal sedge
You aren't optimistic either. Unfortunate.
I feel like instructors can be interesting. But idk why and how they drop the ball so consistently
Even Pallas I'm lukewarm on because she leans hard into dps rather than interesting support
scarlet mortar
i think as a funny they should just inflate that heal to high heaven
like how ash S3 technically has a real high multiplier but has limited uses per deployment
scarlet mortar
i feel bad for the people wanting to main doc, but at this point he can't really be saved
scarlet mortar
be ungovernable
sullen rover
its because she doesnt have the male debuff
quick pecan
this is the bad ending fr
scarlet mortar
btw in the PV there was this
glass monolith
is iana unironically going to be the best one
Spawns Doll - Refuses to elaborate - Wasn't there to begin with, she just threw Dolls at us
scarlet mortar
kinda wonder if that's an event mechanic or if they just made the most misleading skill preview
...or if he can overheal
nnnah that's cope
glass monolith
Or maybe event mechanic is another type of damage which is circle around character model
scarlet mortar
real and factual
limpid siren
You aren't optimistic either. Unfortunate.
I just see three ops with kits that all completely hinge on numbers, and have some pretty hefty conditions for their usage to remain faithful to the collab game
Maybe HG is generous with numbers because of the limitstions, they did it with leto
But idk i wonāt hold my breath for all three to be good
Iana and Doc getting aspd and no atk also makes me nervous
Because i doubt their base atk is going to be that special
quick pecan
was leto really a limitation
questioning if they really think ppl were gonna pick up ursusknights for her
gray stone
was leto really a limitation
questioning if they really think ppl were gonna pi...
It is one that you can easily play around
limpid siren
The atk% they gave her implies the devs thought the forced skill activation is a drawback
scarlet mortar
was leto really a limitation
questioning if they really think ppl were gonna pi...
i do have all the peterheim girls raised rn 
gray stone
then again
It only affect Rosa
limpid siren
Moot
quick pecan
now the ultimate question
limpid siren
Lapplandās drawbacks arenāt really drawbacks either
scarlet mortar
it's barely a limitation tbh
spark sinew
there's zero chance ela not being good
gray stone
It's a low bar
quick pecan
blitz maybe not
gray stone
there's zero chance ela not being good
truege
tidal sedge
Having a demerit is a good internal justification for ratcheting numbers regardless of what the demerit is. See SA s3 having def cut when range expansion mostly nullifies him risking himself anyways. Or Mlynar s3 losing a bit of damage per kill
gray stone
Time to doompost Dorothy
scarlet mortar
there's zero chance ela not being good
weren't there people asking whether ela's mines do damage bc some enemies didn't flash red in the pv
limpid siren
I agree with that, but 5*s donāt always get the equivalent boon
gray stone
5 stars usually get slap with high risk low rewards skill
or a shit ton of limitations for shitty returns
scarlet mortar
Time to doompost Dorothy
doro still nabs solo's in CN no
spark sinew
weren't there people asking whether ela's mines do damage bc some enemies didn't...
modern maga s1, we take those
scarlet mortar
that's like doomposting cexas when ya2 dropped
tidal sedge
that's like doomposting cexas when ya2 dropped
Executors work fine in multiples though
scarlet mortar
uhhh trapmasters do too
gray stone
Rosa doomposting
tidal sedge
How so
limpid siren
scarlet mortar
one trapmaster isn't enough to beat natural DP gen