strategy

[meager merlin]

Does anyone here have the list of operators expected to debut in the shop this year?

[peak cloak]

@tropic valve another victim fell into your propaganda

[glass monolith]

I need to upload Blacknight sleep deleting chapter 9 fireballs and sleeping chapter 12 civilians

[meager merlin]

Trying to plan yellow certs

[void terrace]

My Schwartz mod 2 is still sitting dusty on its shelf...

[grand ginkgo]

idt thats legal in this discord

[gray stone]

If someone knows they would just DM it

[meager merlin]

They are on a rough schedule, in order of release

[turbid badge]

i rasied schwarz for manfred

dodge mod

[gray stone]

Pattern recognition is considered speculation here
Can't talk about that

[turbid badge]

fartooth role got deleted

[meager merlin]

It's generally 2 reruns and then a debut

Bruh

[turbid badge]

fartooth infinite range is fun to work with but god everything is being stripped from her

ask in help

lol

[gray stone]

Instead, here's a list of operators in order of release
Take that information and interpret it however you want

[turbid badge]

damn justyna was soon

[gray stone]

No speculations here haha

[void terrace]

The only 6 stars I have yet to raise are archetto, vergil fartooth, ebon, Pallas, mizuki, and shining

[turbid badge]

raise ur ebon

[void terrace]

Honestly any of them worth it?

Yeah holding off till his mod 3

[gray stone]

Ebenholz mod delta is cool

[void terrace]

Will have more resources then

Am currently suffering from raising eyjaalter swialter and ceobe mod3 at once

Depot got destroyed

[spark sinew]

don't raise your thorns

[turbid badge]

what

[spark sinew]

ok, bad joke

[void terrace]

Shouldn't have skipped hortus....completely lost interest with the mechanic and am suffering now

What

Damn

Thorns

[tropic valve]

nice

[quick pecan]

fuck we were so close to the solo

[turbid badge]

dw the mechanic sucked for ur stalling strats

[spark sinew]

fart is good in base, depending

[turbid badge]

if u bring modtima shes gonna do some funky stuff

[sly drift]

This sounds like another cirno propaganda. That guy probably cirno alt account

[spark sinew]

pallas is the best exp worker

[glass monolith]

Have you tried to use not fountain tile to abuse 75% damage down smoke or you get oversheeped?

[tidal sedge]

Wouldn't it be better to be off geyser

[void terrace]

Pallas healing with stainless ever worth it? Just duo a lane with gavail Pallas and a turret

But then might as well saria

[glass monolith]

If you place Executor on 1 tile to left you can use bottle to smoke him and fountain tile will prevent purple smokes

[quick pecan]

he’s the only one though wouldnt he want to be geyser for when soda bottle on cooldown

[void terrace]

Or just execute alter

[tidal sedge]

Geyser tiles can't have white smoke

So no big damage reduction

[spark sinew]

bottle is on cd i assume

[quick pecan]

i’m missing one mastery

and he’s e2 75

[foggy grove]

shame x3

[tidal sedge]

I've heard Pluma can solo that stage, I don't see why Exe couldn't

[quick pecan]

hmm

let me try bottle spam and not rely on geyser ig

[spark sinew]

sleep supporter...

[tidal sedge]

Oh Grain Buds preview

[spark sinew]

did they show off their skills on the stream?

[turbid badge]

noodie

[spark sinew]

i wonder how bad cd is

[latent monolith]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1kh4y1C7WY

[turbid badge]

yes

sleep decelbinder

here haukcxindu

[tidal sedge]

Only that she sleeps stuff, dunno about cycle

[spark sinew]

i mean i can see the preview

even then, she seems to sleep enemies, and then gains multitarget attack

[tidal sedge]

Wha

[spark sinew]

so obviously no permasleep shenanigans

can we put the previews here?

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/390756814532378634/1201422310251446372/IMG_4644.gif

[latent monolith]

yeah kit previews are fine

[turbid badge]

nvm i too lazy to find her doing the flute thing but heres the forte

they added alot of stuff that increase max hp

this update

[spark sinew]

oh right we just have the text skills

[turbid badge]

My windchimes is eating 🍽️

[spark sinew]

no need to decipher gifs

[tidal sedge]

So it's a spin on Proviso s2

[quick pecan]

ok yeah i just have placement skill issue

[turbid badge]

wtf

[quick pecan]

well i guess it makes sense he wants damage reduction more than wanting to do more damage since there’s casters

[tidal sedge]

Basically Proviso-esque skills

[quick pecan]

he’s so cute

[tidal sedge]

S1 auto recovery power strike
S2 with instant effect and duration modification to attacks

[latent monolith]

Grain Buds
5* [Decel Binder] Supporter
Talent

Gain ASPD. Increase slow duration when attacking [Wild Animal] enemies
Skill 1
Next attack deals a certain amount of Art damage and targets an additional enemy

• Has charges
  Skill 2
  Stops attacking and inflict Sleep on up to 3 enemies in range for a few seconds. Afterward, gain ATK and attacks target up to 3 enemies.

[turbid badge]

this patch making me want to go back on Yanknights again

[tidal sedge]

Aspd talent too

[glass monolith]

Yo let's sleep

[tidal sedge]

I already have e2 Proviso. Not excited for Grain Buds

[spark sinew]

i wonder

so her module is probably the one that gives sp

[tidal sedge]

It is X module yes

[turbid badge]

hauckindu wat u cook

[spark sinew]

so she has subpar slow outside of wild animals

[weak gazelle]

ohh new ops huh

[tidal sedge]

I'm deflated about her unless her s1 is somehow good

[weak gazelle]

look mid from the description

[turbid badge]

wild animals..?

[tidal sedge]

It's Proviso sidegrade

[spark sinew]

teta please

[tidal sedge]

I'm assuming it means Infected Creatures

[spark sinew]

when in factory, each recipe for the exp card has halved duration

-40% exp eff

[weak gazelle]

uhh
so proviso direct competitor

[turbid badge]

Is grainbud a liberi

it look like it

[weak gazelle]

not a good sign right from the start

[tidal sedge]

I didn't think about base skill differences, but hard to beat Proviso on that front

[spark sinew]

it's probably some dorm skills jokes aside

the drone amplifier for factories would be nice, that's why i don't think they would release it

[weak gazelle]

ohh cny stream
maybe i should look into it first

[spark sinew]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/966247590989529128/1201424350952312872/image_2.webp?ex=65c9c49e&is=65b74f9e&hm=49140b54d2be5660f2b4ed67c2abcae6ceb29c529a05f34c7abb9989d3d64ea2&=&format=webp&width=748&height=113

should be wild beasts?

dead op on arrival

[tidal sedge]

Oh. Not even infected creatures. Rough

[turbid badge]

wild animal is op

i get to slow the brown deer

[tidal sedge]

What the hell are those enemies even from

[turbid badge]

it runs fast

[spark sinew]

RA

[turbid badge]

Roa

Ra

[tidal sedge]

That'd explain my unfamiliarity

[spark sinew]

i mean i assume they would put some in future events

surely

[glass monolith]

Red and Black crabs do crab rave in their AFK state

[turbid badge]

Ok minus we get it you look at crabs

[spark sinew]

maybe like some sort of drones from kazi

that gave you stun mines/atkspd boost/coils

[turbid badge]

what did the mh enemies classify as

[glass monolith]

Man can leave MOBA, but MOBA won't leave man

[spark sinew]

noted

[tidal sedge]

I guess hope Wan Qing is good

[spark sinew]

is he like

[turbid badge]

oh they didnt have ine

[spark sinew]

myrtle s2

[turbid badge]

Yes

but

b#ut

no numbers

[spark sinew]

but maybe multitarget

[turbid badge]

so wait

[weak gazelle]

ohh its another sui siblings

[spark sinew]

i mean the man is dead

[tidal sedge]

Myrtle s2 but aoe and aspd for ops in area with same bearing as him

[spark sinew]

and i say this as one of the very few who has myrtle m6

[latent monolith]

Wan Qing
5* Vanguard [Standard Bearer]
Talent 1:

Operators within the surrounding 8 tiles of Wan Qing have increased Max HP; if a surrounding operator is facing the same direction as Wan Qing, further increase Max HP
Skill 1:
Ely S1
Skill 2:
Stop attacking and gradually recover a certain amount of DP. During skill duration, surrounding allies will be healed for a certain amount of HP every second. ASPD of surrounding allies who are facing the same direction as Wan Qing is increased

oh I got snailed

[spark sinew]

so multitarget myrtle

[latent monolith]

It also gives some buff

[turbid badge]

Hauckindu thats OP

[weak gazelle]

first glance and look into their kit
all 5* are meh to me

[turbid badge]

look

[latent monolith]

to both aspd and hp

[spark sinew]

i mean we know the amount of atkspd he'll give, just look what sail gives

[weak gazelle]

only 6* that worth the attention

[tidal sedge]

The aspd could be neat, depending on how much

[spark sinew]

another one to the pile of ops who make carne worse

[latent monolith]

2% HP 1 aspd

[weak gazelle]

wont expect much
around the same ely give at most

[tidal sedge]

28 aspd would be good

[turbid badge]

thats alot

do u think hg that generous idk

[tidal sedge]

Though I'm thinking it's like 20

[spark sinew]

i'm thinking like 10 max

[tidal sedge]

That'd be pointless

[turbid badge]

its on his skill

lil

shouldnt be that low

[weak gazelle]

"surrounding allies" is the part that i hate most

[quick pecan]

elysium with pots and mod is 28 from a talent

[spark sinew]

i mean it's welfare vang without limiting on what class he'll buff

[quick pecan]

but ig it’s still on skill bc of condition

[latent monolith]

we need more shit like this

-40 aspd on enemies

[weak gazelle]

while Ely global sniper
that alone already give an advantage of placement

[turbid badge]

lee eat

[latent monolith]

im tempted to mod 3 for the funny

[tidal sedge]

Why is Sail relevant here. It's a totally passive effect

[latent monolith]

when it comes out

[quick pecan]

well he’s cute so i’ll probably raise him

[turbid badge]

salty looks like sharaths

[quick pecan]

that e2 art got me

[turbid badge]

me to

i just want to make him squish my wind chimes hp to uncharted levels

[spark sinew]

i mean i could compare with ange but then i'll get "older operator, doesn't count"

[foggy grove]

ange is passive too

so

[spark sinew]

unless you think they would make it good because it's only for the skill duration

ange is like opposite of those yeah
but it's not always on

[latent monolith]

S2M3 lee with the new mod gets 70 aspd for blocking enemy

[tidal sedge]

Skill effects are pretty much always stronger ye.

[latent monolith]

its a bad mod but still funny

[turbid badge]

Isnt that just her healing

[spark sinew]

wtf

i never noticed

[foggy grove]

[tidal sedge]

Also you could've picked Ayerscarpe talent instead of Ange

[spark sinew]

who

[turbid badge]

leto gave 24 to uussr

21 without pots

[spark sinew]

10 atkspd hurray

[latent monolith]

ely gives 20 to all snipers on the map

[weak gazelle]

guess another banner skip for now
unless for whatever reason their numbers are huge that highly wont happen

[spark sinew]

i feel like they're very stingy with global non class/whatever limited atkspd but we'll see
maybe they think that "same direction as him" is an actual issue

[turbid badge]

oh damn its 28 with module

Stonks

[void terrace]

Wait what. That's good for his S2 gho

[quick pecan]

damn my chongyue can’t face down

surely it’s over

[weak gazelle]

but 6* there are absolute good at least
sui siblingknights eating good

[tidal sedge]

Probably not because flags don't care about bearing much. I think it's 20~ because it's on a skill.

[foggy grove]

i don't have enough sui

to trigger shu

[spark sinew]

i've seen some doomposting on zuo

[turbid badge]

noo

[spark sinew]

especially because of his preview or smth

[turbid badge]

we all did

“rebranded vivi”

[spark sinew]

i didn't look at the preview but

[turbid badge]

[spark sinew]

oh it's that bad?

[glass monolith]

I didn't expect that i would need 300 pulls for spark on Flat is justice banner

[turbid badge]

buy three get talent

[foggy grove]

you are grabbing shu minus?

[latent monolith]

I mean he'd still only get like 9/30 hits solo

and S2 is still the bad skill

[spark sinew]

i still think module might make the sui condition less

[void terrace]

Cri

[glass monolith]

It seems so for now

[weak gazelle]

oh they rename musha into soloblades
hmm weird but whatever
that archetype have not good history after all
unless the new one broke that curse

[spark sinew]

imagine if it's like 2 sui

[turbid badge]

[spark sinew]

you can just run nian/chong and be good

[void terrace]

What about Lee S2 and mulse

[spark sinew]

instead of putting random...stuff

[void terrace]

That would be a funny combo

[turbid badge]

wtf

[latent monolith]

just use like exu S3

[tidal sedge]

His kit seems made to address complaints about Musha. Though whether that's enough we'll have to see

[spark sinew]

i wonder how much atkspd he gets

[foggy grove]

ultimately it comes to number but i doubt he'll be meta

[spark sinew]

what

[turbid badge]

m2

[spark sinew]

i mean unless you think he just gonna powercreep the other 6* that blatantly, he's not gonna get the old musha talent

he's getting some atkspd nerf on his "berserk"

like noir

[weak gazelle]

yeah...
skill on paper and actual practice never align
so we can still hope

[spark sinew]

and noir feels awkward because of that

[void terrace]

How's the new sui sibling?

[glass monolith]

Hear me out:
AH + 4 Sui Shu

[turbid badge]

wtf

[tall cairn]

…

[foggy grove]

i need to spark if i want 4 sui

[tall cairn]

That doesn’t sound right.

[glass monolith]

Same

[foggy grove]

[turbid badge]

borrow mine

or angles chong

[foggy grove]

i have chong

[tidal sedge]

I could see it capping at +70 aspd for him, mod3 brings it to +100

[turbid badge]

oh

[void terrace]

My chongus is low pot T-T

[turbid badge]

Ouch

[spark sinew]

ig depends on how potent sp effect is we might know it already, i didn't check

[void terrace]

I mean my pairs are Chong nian and dusk ling. First one just holds the lane. Ling and dusk can hold waves tgt damn well

Dusks feelings either allow boss stalling or just reducing the attrition rate of lings thunderers

[spark sinew]

ling can hold the waves damn well

[void terrace]

I mean I use ultra redundancies and ling silencealter and skalter

For very healable dragons

I just love consistency and cycles

Don't judge

If it ain't sustainable my OCD just pops T-T

[turbid badge]

i like ling s1 / s2 more than s3 if im using a team

[void terrace]

Hmmm interesting

[turbid badge]

s3 just eats up everything

[void terrace]

I use her S3 with stainless too

One dragon plus turret

Equals mini ranged unit

[quick pecan]

@turbid badge the chong skin pants are still ugly

[turbid badge]

yeah

[quick pecan]

but the vfx are so good

[turbid badge]

vfxx??

[quick pecan]

so i will still get it

[turbid badge]

omg

[quick pecan]

[void terrace]

Her S3 fires turrets super fast. You can line up 2 dragons with a turret in the midle and activate their skills

[quick pecan]

visual effects

[void terrace]

It turns into a goddam machine gun

[turbid badge]

i rather just use anglelina s2

[turbid badge]

oh i thought it was voice fx

💀

[quick pecan]

😭

it has a dragon rise up into the air

[turbid badge]

wow

so cool

[quick pecan]

how tf am i supposed to skip

[spark sinew]

ling with stainless is a cool tech

i like the two turrets one though

[quick pecan]

i just want to know brawler module already

tell me the 6* get more cracked while the lower rarity get crumbs besides one they decide is their favorite

[spark sinew]

idk how you even fix 5* ones

except maybe flint

[weak gazelle]

ahh yeah
when i look at it again Zuo mod3 will likely fall into mandatory type (regardless of buff in it) again

[spark sinew]

they just all sound like discount flametail to me

[weak gazelle]

honestly i have high hope for 5* brawler mods
but better wait and see

[quick pecan]

they’re similar to marksman in that even the base atk increase is pretty substantial for them

in an age of ever increasing def

but they could even shaft that i mean 🪨🪨 literally got lower atk gain than minimalist and click from mod

but she was already good bc of her base kit so maybe that’s why they did that

[tidal sedge]

They definitely do that I feel

[void terrace]

Imagine the brawler module is -1 block

[quick pecan]

flint stonks

[tidal sedge]

Beeswax module lacks def gain. Mint gets def from module

[void terrace]

Actually tho imagine. 0 block chongyue

Immune to melee attacks

Slap in middle of the lane

To cover 5 tiles

With s3

Insane

Mizuki who?

[spiral stream]

Does anyone have a team for LS-5 and CE-5

[drowsy jewel]

building his s3 is gonna be a bitch with that

[spark sinew]

i mean there's lin vs carne

but ig they treat 6* differently

[quick pecan]

isn’t carne second mod better

[weak gazelle]

yeah as lurker said
most likely will be like that

[void terrace]

Wait actually

Minus one block?

I was just throwing a shitty idea lol if they adopt it mountain mod would just be pein

Wait actually nvm it would make his S3 insane

Helidrop into enemy he could destroy things from safety

[quick pecan]

chong and mountain have different mods

one got mod x

the other got mod y

[void terrace]

Ooh

Ok I was just meming at first but minus 1 block would actually be sick

[vocal cave]

chong getting +1 block would solve so many problems imo

1 block laneholder is such a pain in the ass

[spark sinew]

not by much
you could argue carne first mod was like that because they didn't know what to make with the second mod

[quick pecan]

chong doesn’t really need block

[spark sinew]

chong getting 2 block would make him so much worse

look at how shit thorns it at surviving current stuff

[drowsy jewel]

he does enough damage that he doesnt even need to worry about waves, 2 block will just kill him faster

[spark sinew]

before even getting one skill off

[vocal cave]

cuz thorns has no aoe

[drowsy jewel]

0 block chong sounds infinitely better than 2 block chong

[weak gazelle]

for phalanx caster mod (5* one) i am not impressed at all
it just staright up base stat and trait buff

[spark sinew]

offskill chong does? are you counting his pre ramp s3 as aoe?

[quick pecan]

you don’t need extra block on someone who can just hide behind a defender or bulkier guard after his skill is active

i don’t really have issues with him leaking

[vocal cave]

idk at least thats more aoe than thorns i just hate using him and then having to put a medic defender right behind him so the 2+ enemies that come by dont leak automatically

my biggest problem with using him was leaking but maybe thats cuz i have no saria and i have to rely on gummy

[spark sinew]

idk maybe I'm getting pot locked, but his pre ramp damage is not enough at all to solve the issue of getting dead with block two

idk just put an agent behind him
or any vang

[quick pecan]

you’re not pot locked bc the gains from pots aren’t massive

[tall cairn]

With block 2 he prolly gets 1 one tapped by sheep on pink tile.

[vocal cave]

i havent been using him too much after i got mountain idk if his sustain is that big of a problem

[quick pecan]

tbh

even after skill is active

[void terrace]

Time for testing with heidi S1 for simulations

[quick pecan]

i can’t say that two block chong would survive there either lol

[void terrace]

Honestly hei S1 has so many uses for weird strats. It's pretty underrated

[quick pecan]

i mean he will kill a lot of stuff before it reaches him

but if it’s something with high def he will probably spend at least some time blocking it

and that’s pretty dangerous if it’s two enemies

[void terrace]

Suddenly soft steathing your entire team and using mostima or binds can massively reduce their DMG taken

[vocal cave]

idk i hope brawler mod isnt just some like +10% atk on blocked enemies shit and its actually something interesting

[quick pecan]

idt they will focus on block

[spark sinew]

his range really helps with catching leaks etc
block two would be such a slap in the face

especially for other brawlers

[quick pecan]

most brawlers outside of mountain don’t want to block

[spark sinew]

except mountain lol

[drowsy jewel]

ngl think they probably gonna focus on aspd for chong

[weak gazelle]

no worry
i have her m6
really unique bard, allowing to manipulate block count is fun

[drowsy jewel]

or sp

[vocal cave]

maybe ive been using too much mountain to not care about block

[vocal cave]

that would be the best outcome i think

[spark sinew]

you think mountain survives because of aoe

but it's because his regen is bs strong
you can try to use some block two guard with similar stats and see how fast they fold

[quick pecan]

i would personally rather take chong + healing defender than mountain + medic when the stages get harder

bc when the content gets hard mountains self sustain isn’t enough

[spark sinew]

also -atk and dodge helps obviously

that's when you use mountain s3

[quick pecan]

for easy to medium difficulty content though mountain is probably more than enough

[spark sinew]

that said nowadays i would rather cut him entirely if it comes to that, despite me already having s3m3

[weak gazelle]

idk for other but in the past my default mountain skill always s3
it just the pinnacle of what brawler can do

very rarely consider s2 even tho i have him m6

[spark sinew]

it's a cool skill

but like 99% of the time it feels like s2 accomplishes the same but without downtime

kinda like mud
at least mud s3 is quite better into strong enemies and has nonexistent cd

[spiral stream]

Does this work for LS-5

[weak gazelle]

the last time i use it to kill mudrock (with extra buff tho)

my beloved ToW event

[glass monolith]

Mudrock fight game me brain damage because i was missing chance to burst her before she heal back up with towers

[void terrace]

Oh no

Another new one baited by eyjalter

[glass monolith]

People baited by Mlynar were more fun: "What do you mean he doesn't block?"

[heady hedge]

whats wrong with eyja alter

the real question is why does he have 3 medics

[spark sinew]

or why do they need to clear ls5

[heady hedge]

also switch the eyja alter skill to s1, verm to s2? im not too sure what skill verm uses

oh wait ls5

mfw i read that as sl 5

[spark sinew]

yeah the exp stage

[heady hedge]

i mean i still suggest switching out a medic and changing skills

[spark sinew]

what exactly are you struggling with
bear in mind that farming exp stage is not that great

[spiral stream]

wut

wdym not that great

[heady hedge]

xp stage is shit to farm

most of your xp and lmdeez comes fro mbase

[deep prairie]

You only clear it for OP

[spark sinew]

not to mention we have LS6 now

[spiral stream]

my base is shit right now 💀

[spark sinew]

which is still meh

[heady hedge]

you are better off farming base upgrade mats

then lmd/xp stage

also probably better off farming the event, but if you still need the stage clear just tell us what is killing you

[round yew]

Did it!

[tropic valve]

nice!

[void terrace]

Dumb ceobe idea but. Her mod means each atk does 2 hits. Stainless turrets have 2000 defence. Her S2 attacks super fast. With stainless turret in her range she will hit and charge it super fast, firing high aoe Phys dmg unless an enemy with above 2000 defence walks into her range, maxing her dmg output

Brain

Warning: I am dumb

[tidal sedge]

Stainless turrets aren't exactly good damage, but if you want a use for them, sure

Er, find a use for them as dps

[civic bear]

1 hit every 1.4s from only 1 turret isnt exactly good

yatos1 would do better since she's double hit+talent so it proc every 2nd attack 0.93s
not that its amazing still

[void terrace]

I mean my stainless turrets are used for gavail S3, ling S3, blemi juggernaut shenanigans, muelsyes clones to replicate themselves, atk recovery stuff and qiubai

Just finding more uses for them is really cool

[glass monolith]

Quartz tanking H11 boss

[trim cedar]

is 3 mins auto already decent for a non mlynar/exu/ash sl-8?

[tidal sedge]

That's a little longer than mine, dunno what the floor is

My attempts at fast autos get big desync problems

[trim cedar]

im still testing if this will happen. i got too elated killing dolly that im leaking at the bottom lane

[tidal sedge]

My stable auto is like 2 min 45 sec if you care to compare

[sly drift]

Sl8 time is just the matter of killing last sheep on bottom lane isn't it

[trim cedar]

i didnt really focus on this because i just patched my leak from those flying sheeps\

[tidal sedge]

Kill gates

[trim cedar]

yep im looking for a benchmark to see if my auto is kinda decent

[tidal sedge]

The absolute floor is 2 minutes 12 seconds apparently

Assuming 2x speed

[spiral stream]

what defender thats good to use on the event thats not 5 or 6 Star?

rn im at SL-4 and beagle is not doing it

she got horribly demolish by the Big Fella even with the smoke on

[glass monolith]

Beg fellas spawn smol sheep on same time with defender so any ranged unit in range will speedrun purple smoke on defender any%

[spiral stream]

so wait theres a god dam sheep inside that mf?

[glass monolith]

You didn't notice first attack of Fellas is literally sheep spawn?

[spiral stream]

no 💀

im blind

[spiral stream]

ye that went easier when i knew now

https://tenor.com/view/amiya-arknights-arknights-anime-psycho-when-they-cry-gif-27043355

[spiral stream]

is Arene a good Guard Unit?

[tropic valve]

good for a 4*

has access to arts and more dmg to drones

[deft badger]

@glass monolith can i borrow ur specter? 😄

[glass monolith]

I hope you aware it is specter normal, not alter

Also she is literally up on support

moduleless for now if you care for it

[deft badger]

i am brain afk but not that brain afk 😄

if i was in need of spalter would just bring mine

[tidal sedge]

good 4★

[deft badger]

arene, e1 him if u wanna do early anni 3..

[void terrace]

Hmmm any good combos with ceobe other than the usual res shred?

[deft badger]

@foggy grove u have been right, without the hp buff from one of the others she ain't going to take that hit lol

she needs like +1k hp to do

[void terrace]

Someone need specter norm with module?

[spiral stream]

Who do I use for SL-6

[vocal leaf]

you could start building myrtle, click and pinecone/shirayuki for event

[deft badger]

do ur e2

u have like 7 days left to do ex stages

let me find my skillful paint graph

since u are at it pull on the beginner and do other is2 monthly squads so that u can e2 that six star as well

or get her depends which 6 star u get..

[spiral stream]

you didnt even put numbers what to do first 💀

all i see is just arrows

[glass monolith]

1-11

At least origin of arrow is there

[deft badger]

and u follow the arrows 😄

haha

and u have like half of it done already

just get the xp,lmd,gel from the event shop for cutter and e2 her

blue stones u can find in the cert shop, the one more missing u can get from 3-2

[spiral stream]

so i sold out those 3 things

all 100 remaining of the LMD

then promote

[deft badger]

nah u don't need all of it

[spiral stream]

then auto deploy SL-1 again

[deft badger]

mine is sold out because i cleared it

[spiral stream]

A

[deft badger]

she needs less then that

i think the event gives u in total 600k?

[spiral stream]

well cutter is now E1

[deft badger]

she needs

from lvl1 to e2l1

leveling and elite upgrade counted

[spiral stream]

wait where is IS at again?

[spiral stream]

👏

[deft badger]

but u do need 3-8 for IS

[spiral stream]

ohh

ok

[deft badger]

try pressing it

it does say what u need to unlock i think its 3-8

can even be that its 2-10 and i got it wrong 🙂

[glass monolith]

My favourite is that you need to "do 1-5/1-10" or something to unlock SSS

[deft badger]

help means

i mean just press the button and it lights up a window top left corner telling u the stage..

[spiral stream]

i ask before i check 👍

[deft badger]

i mean u can farm supplies if u want to, i am just picking IS because its free

doesn't consume sanity and gives u more then just the chips + its easy to do.. enter floor 3 and just abandon u are getting the rewards

[spiral stream]

ayo sanity free?

[deft badger]

yes

[spiral stream]

wait how many stages are there in the event

once i get E2 Cutter what next @deft badger

[deft badger]

8 normal, 8 ex + cm = 16, and 4 or 5s + couple cm?

[deft badger]

then u can borrow e2s

finish normal event stages and pull that beginner which u haven't done

see what u get

[spiral stream]

what

like support units?

[deft badger]

yes

[spiral stream]

to borrow e2s you need atleast 1 e2 unit?

[deft badger]

when u have that e2 cutter u can add me to ur friend list if u are planning on playing the game lol

[spiral stream]

but i have an e2 amiya?

wait no

nvm

that aint e2

[deft badger]

nope she is e1 🙂

[spiral stream]

hmmm 7 days left

[deft badger]

u have time, u run them in couple hours
focus on getting the ops to do

u can probably do normal stages with e1s only but i am not the person who is going to beat his head over that
i did just e2 two of my ops

@glass monolith do u maybe know who is the next yellow cert op?

[spiral stream]

once i use your e2s its just going to be a breeze?

[deft badger]

blue banner changes tomorrow

[glass monolith]

No idea

[deft badger]

not just mine most of the time some e2 six star can carry u in a stage

[spiral stream]

A

[deft badger]

they probably announced it on socials, i follow non of them lol

[sly drift]

What's the last cert ops we have

Saga?

[deft badger]

pff i don't remember

[foggy grove]

sail

[sly drift]

Yea lol. it's been a while since i care about yellow cert ops. Usually goes for hh ticket

[foggy grove]

this year batch sucks

[deft badger]

rosa will be in yellow

eyja over rosa?

[sly drift]

That's blue

[deft badger]

yeah but she will be in yellow replacing eyja

[glass monolith]

They announced it in-game, but i don't know how to know who is yellow cert

[spiral stream]

@deft badger the credit store doesnt have the item

[foggy grove]

left for kernel

[glass monolith]

So... Asbestos join my roster?

[deft badger]

u guys are confusing me its one from standard and one from blue

in yellow since weeks 😄

so tomorrow sail and rosa in it

[sly drift]

Anyway is squid left the server? Don't see him at all lately

[deft badger]

he is here creeps in sometimes

[deft badger]

which one blue stones?

[spiral stream]

Oh there it looked like credits from the graph you showed

Where do I even obtain those kind of currency

[deft badger]

u have 200 of them already

[spiral stream]

Huh

[polar crane]

when you pull on limited banner it give you a coin to exchange for operator in the shop
after the limited banner ended those coin convert to that currency to buy mat
rate is 1:7

[deft badger]

seems like u wasted them on somehting else or didn't open ur mail

[spiral stream]

Probably wasted that I don't even remember what I did to them

anyhow to obtain more?

[deft badger]

w8 a sec i am looking since i kinder have 18 on my acc so they came from somewhere 😄

[polar crane]

read my reply

you can also press "about" bottom left

[spiral stream]

Well that's gonna be a problem then

[deft badger]

that's in 7 days

[polar crane]

ya it's time gated, you better farm somewhere else then

[deft badger]

u don't have to, i used mine on e2 cutter
did a SL upgrade on a op wasted 6 or 8 there

and have 18 right now

so i think they came from missions couple of them

3-2 drops them how many do u have right now i guess 2

missing 9 will cost u 2 , is it worth it probably if u are able to do more event stages in the end

or u go for a op u can farm mats in event i think jaye was on nagas list but how smart is it to e2 jaye first don't wanna argue about that but probably not lol

i would waste that 2 , since i would put her to use in the event clear more stages get more out of it
then grind IS with her, do anni 1-2-3(15h left) get eyja from the shop e2 her as well but that's me

[spiral stream]

Well I'm here now @deft badger

[vernal lion]

every roguelike game belike: Prepare to lose NOW.

[polar crane]

IS not fun when you're not stacked

[deft badger]

monthly squads

u can do all of them

just enter floor 3 and abandon after that there is no need to do more, later if u care about story do it

[vernal lion]

I miss these boxes

[celest solstice]

my friend is doing fine right?

well he just leaked 3

[glass monolith]

Well he survived 6 dog wave.... or it comes later?

[celest solstice]

its finee

till the end

[deft badger]

pinecon lvl45 handles bot better then lava

i think dogs are after 200

but not sure, pinecon destroys them anyway 😄

[scarlet mortar]

top lane might be deadge

but that's for later

[spark sinew]

that's quite a perfurmer deplo

[sonic bough]

Hi everyone! Hope you're doing good
These are the Operators I have and I've been wondering what comps can I make to start investing on the levels, skills and so on.
Thanks in advance!

[deft badger]

don't lvl weedy for now

[spark sinew]

don't level myrtle for now

[deft badger]

myrtle not needed that early

lol

[spark sinew]

doberman and lunacub are just not good, don't be fooled by "high" rarity

i honestly like weedy, even early on she's a pusher with s1
but actually scales into late

[sonic bough]

Didn't include the rest of the 4 and 3 I have, my bad**

[deft badger]

luna is actually long rang thought she is a marksman 😄

@spark sinew should i get rosa tomorrow yellow certs?

[spark sinew]

no.

[deft badger]

bro hates just every op i think they are cool

lol

[spark sinew]

why do you like to waste resources on them

exactly

[deft badger]

its not like it mater

do i have meta? i do

[spark sinew]

lol lmao

[spark sinew]

either way I'm gonna be blunt
since you will pull on typhon, buying rosa is just dumb

unless you're sniper knight player
but you are not

[deft badger]

i am not but she seems to be cool 😄

[vocal leaf]

skip typhon 🙅‍♂️ join the rosa resistance 🐻‍❄️🌹

[deft badger]

hell no

typhone is a must lol, here..

perfect brain afk op for me

[spark sinew]

see

[deft badger]

hauck doesn't need her he has a brain

[spark sinew]

i mean i am

[deft badger]

i don't have one i need typhone

[spark sinew]

lol you're overrating me a lot

[sonic bough]

Who should I level up first?

[deft badger]

kroos 3star sniper

and u lvl kinder evenly or focus more on dd early

better show the 4stars u got

[deft badger]

put kroos in to ur team go do some story stages pull beginner don't pull on event banner anymore

kick that silence out of ur team, put perfumer in it let her get trust and give her lvls since u will need her
don't lvl silence

beagle, spot, kroos, perfumer, lapp, gavial, eyja, amiya, meteor(since u dont have may)

[sonic bough]

Well, I haven't pull on the limited event aside from the free multi and the free daily pull they gave

[deft badger]

well u got more then u need already from there 2 limited ops

there isn't a need for u to pull there anymore

now do beginner just do story stages for now finish 1-11

[sonic bough]

Time to lvl and build

[deft badger]

lets see what u are going to get from beginner

[sonic bough]

Does lvl15 sounds fine?

[deft badger]

doesn't matter for now

i will have to add lvls later like after episode 1

for now just go to story 1-11

[sonic bough]

This one?

[deft badger]

pull beginner u will have xp and lmd anyway to lvl that 9 ops to max

u got just weedy.. ok nvm then

do story

[sonic bough]

Okay!

[vernal lion]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/669489344658014208/1154424035954933811/utage_bruh.gif

[deft badger]

i love the dedication this men has when it comes to breaking the game

[sonic bough]

I don't have Spot
Also, if I have dupes from the 3*, it's better to use them to increase their potential, right?

[spark sinew]

you can't do anything else with them

[spark sinew]

idt I'm qualified to help actual newbies, so... i would just rush 4* e2

[sonic bough]

Rushing time

[spark sinew]

would you be able to though

oh yeah don't level reception room and the office

[deft badger]

how they made half of the people go for silence but they have already eyja

@spark sinew does liskarm suck?

[vernal lion]

she only sucks if you don't use her sp talent

[deft badger]

at least someone agrees with me

[vernal lion]

at max level and full pot, she has 782 def and 13 res

[deft badger]

which is even ok, but if someone ask me her talent is kinder broken
probably the only op i never get bored experimenting with

[spark sinew]

people like to say the easiest answer

[vernal lion]

and she has 3240 hp at max too,
which can also tank the chap 10 cannon

[deft badger]

well i love her don't care, i just thought i am maybe crazy for doing lol
she saved my a- many times, pinchout most recently

[vernal lion]

find a use for her is not that hard as long as you really want to invest her

[quick pecan]

dude i use my liskarm more than you and for general use silence is still the better option lol

my lisk is m6

[deft badger]

my is still m0 😄

i remember it was u who i asked why do u m3 her lol

[vernal lion]

she doesn't really need mastery unless you're doing 5 star only or defenderknights

[quick pecan]

ig if they have eyjalt then lisk priority goes up a bit bc u can just build like a perfumer or sussuro for second medic

but for most ppl lisk just isn’t worth using and when they actually need their defender to tank they will probably see lisk lower defense scaling and think they wasted resources

[deft badger]

that was my point, u will have to build perfumer anyway and u have eyja no need for silence at all better take liskarm and beat up ur brain about her talent 😄

btw i use liskarm a lot, when u look up all the hard kills u will always see my liskarm in the team lol

[sonic bough]

To be fair, I didn't expect getting two 6 stars (Ejya alt) from the daily free single pull

[quick pecan]

she is still mostly a tech option at the end of the day

[sonic bough]

That's why Silence is there

[quick pecan]

and yes i play 5* knights

that’s why i have masteries

[sonic bough]

[celest bluff]

Liskarm?

[quick pecan]

lisk becoming more general use can only really happen if her module releases and increases her bulk considerably

[spark sinew]

lisk is very funny

very high end content wants low level lisk

with probably s2 equipped and never used

and for regular people they can just use...regular 6* tank

[quick pecan]

someone will see a high end strat and bring their lisk to attempt to replicate it not knowing the mald and then their lisk will die

[celest bluff]

Wait what

Did I missed something

[spark sinew]

eh it's not like she has rng in her kit

low level lisk with s2 has been a thing forever

i think even before blacknight

idr if Blade used it... probably

[spark sinew]

s1 makes her block one hit, which is bad, since she gains no sp

more levels make her kill enemies faster, which is bad

[quick pecan]

average player not reading her kit and placing two units next to her

[spark sinew]

i mean that's not relevant to someone replicating high risk is it

[vernal lion]

actually they fix that, she still gives sp if she's attacked

[spark sinew]

when

[vernal lion]

Idk I did test her

[quick pecan]

i mean if ppl try to copy a strat

[celest bluff]

So she still gain sp even during skill

[quick pecan]

it will probably happen

[vernal lion]

ok in PO

[quick pecan]

can see someone copying a strat then they add a unit or two

[deft badger]

never seen a guide with liskarm actually

[quick pecan]

i just think it’s a product of a bygone age

[vernal lion]

I mean I use this strat, that is when I know they fix her s1

[quick pecan]

only really see lisk in defenderknights now

[spark sinew]

why'd you need lisk here though

the s1 specifically only blocks one hit

[vernal lion]

it's my play style

[spark sinew]

idt it would be relevant in your strat

[quick pecan]

also i’m not calling lisk bad

i like her kit a lot

[spark sinew]

you don't use permastall like bk/bibeak/weedy

[quick pecan]

i just don’t think most ppl will get much use out of her

[vernal lion]

I use Lisk for Reedic btw

who needs stall lmao

[spark sinew]

sure, and that 1 lost sp during s1 activation should not break a strat

if you're even referring to it, I can't tell

[vernal lion]

I mean the strat worked, that's it

I don't care, she's good for me

[celest bluff]

Silence

[spark sinew]

i mean i'm just saying s1 doesn't matter for your strat

[vernal lion]

it is

the mecha punch her like a paper

[spark sinew]

at this point i'm convinced you don't know what i was talking about at the start

[vernal lion]

then explain the strat tho

[spark sinew]

again then

this part

blocks attack

[vernal lion]

I don't care

[spark sinew]

and lisk doesn't gain sp

[vernal lion]

why do you need Liskarm to gain sp tho, that's cheating

[spark sinew]

i really don't care about you either, i didn't ask you about your strat, it's you who began pinging me
s1 always gave sp during being active

[deft badger]

yeah, don't know btw why qb and warf are in the team since i didn't use them lol

[spark sinew]

instead you made up some bs and then go "i don't care, my strat works, hurr durr"

[vernal lion]

I mean that, so your part is because of 1 missing sp

it's so stupid to say that

unless you want to talk about cc9 max risk

[spark sinew]

almost like i :edit told you that from the start

[vernal lion]

explain

btw are you high end content?

[spark sinew]

does it matter

i actually thought you meant that lisk will gain the sp from "blocked" hit now

instead you started to talk about how your strat was great because you used her kit correctly

[vernal lion]

I knew that

[waxen swan]

[celest bluff]

Imagine annihilation but with lone trail mechanics

[glass monolith]

30 minutes of Manticore spikes clipping into ground due background

[turbid badge]

noobes

[sonic bough]

Done!

[deft badger]

e1 kroos if u haven't go to the event and do the first stage

write here again if u don't know how to someone will help i am putting my kids to bed

[sonic bough]

I'll try my best!

[small oar]

rate my fit

[deft badger]

waiting for hauck to see it 🙂

[vernal lion]

tachanka not e2 yet

[small oar]

i dont want him but i have no replacements

he is nuke without the nuke

im disappointed

[vernal lion]

but nuker still needs help from other buffs

[small oar]

his buff is my moral support

besides if i need nuke ill drop surtr, project red and ines

i need consistant dps at this point

[deft badger]

i wanted to ask why firewatch...

[small oar]

i leveled her when i first got her she does alright

never felt a reason to remove her

[vernal lion]

easy kill

[small oar]

surti dif

[deft badger]

i could think of 4 stars that are a better option then fire and silence, kinder have the feeling kroos outdps her at that lvl

[small oar]

ok silence has been carrying

but iv needed fire watch for some of the heavy anti air missions

[vernal lion]

I mean that depends on how he play the game

[small oar]

i have 0 skill

[vernal lion]

still later you will need to use proper op

[small oar]

silence is proper op specially near surti

[tidal sedge]

Since when can we actually fight the trader on is

[sonic bough]

Did it, after 20 minutes of dialogue

[vernal lion]

I thought you was stuck with the game mechanism

[random widget]

@vernal lion hiii wanna help me beat SL-EX-7

[vernal lion]

what your problem

[random widget]

I can’t think of a good strategy to beat it

[vernal lion]

about Big Bro, you can use a pusher to push the sheep that is launched by Big Bro so they won't get effected by the pink cloud

for the caster sheeps, if you have Texas and Yato it should be easy, even for CM too

[random widget]

Ohh Texas can tank caster sheep?

[vernal lion]

no

[random widget]

Ohhh nooo you mean

TexAlter

Them

[vernal lion]

yes

[random widget]

Sorry just woke up 🤍

[vernal lion]

btw, because you need at least 9 DP to deploy Texas, so the skateboard sheep won't proc the hidden sheep first and spread out the pink cloud whole map

or you can even not need to play that strat, just use Yato s3 with the cola right next to them so they will get effected by the white tile

[random widget]

Alright got it! I’ll give it a try

[vernal lion]

I have the video, you can check how I clear it
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/669489344658014208/1200411325176754346/2024-01-26_19-02-10.mp4?ex=65c6152a&is=65b3a02a&hm=5805795c00e1cc1c11cc64833e9869aa4765f5d98bd4c98062e58d5843135e76&

[sonic bough]

Oh, almost, I had to do many attempts until I figured it out

But now I have problems with SL-2

Do you know any strategy to beat it?

[deft badger]

did u do sl1 with ur own team?

[sonic bough]

Yeah!

[deft badger]

auto run it couple times

[vernal lion]

use your defender to tank, while having medic to heal them,
and have ranged attacker to deal with the sheeps

[deft badger]

btw show the squad u are using 😄

[sonic bough]

The 2 star one is there to replace both tanks if needed

[random widget]

Tysm I won’t be doing the same strategy since I don’t have Yato built but I really like that start with TexAlter

[crystal cargo]

Braindead hospital Strat

Some units did die but it was fine

[sonic bough]

Sure

[small oar]

wow you got 6 star medic fast

[random widget]

Or I can just borrow your Yato and put Lane Guards over Ling dragons

[deft badger]

don't know if he should pull on anything today..

[sonic bough]

Got it from today's single free pull

[small oar]

rng god likes you

[sonic bough]

I was waking up and I suddenly see the gold triangles

[deft badger]

eyja isn't even ur luckiest pull

[small oar]

lappland you probably want to level

[deft badger]

its that green hair lady 😄

[sonic bough]

Obviously I couldn't sleep after that

[small oar]

its easy enough to and does great

[sonic bough]

[sonic bough]

That one was yesterday's single free pull

[deft badger]

yeah the only problem i don't know which banner they are going to give us tomorrow

[small oar]

i almost did the 10x spin on the box but i already have a great 6 star medic

[deft badger]

don't know if u should do like 10 pulls on gg banner or not

[small oar]

probably not tho it is a limited pull

[sonic bough]

I've saved all my currency

Only pulled on the begginers banner

[small oar]

your going to be spending currency like it is water in a waterpark

[sonic bough]

So I'm really wondering what will be tomorrow's banner

[vernal lion]

blue banner

you mean

[deft badger]

u don't pull on blue wouldn't tell u to do
i am just thinking about 10 on gg

[sonic bough]

These are my saves currently

[sonic bough]

Did 3 auto, should I continue?

[deft badger]

u don't have spot?

[vernal lion]

so you can buy more resources in shop

[deft badger]

yeah do more

lvl that gavi up to max

and eyja

[sonic bough]

Sadly

[sonic bough]

Okay! All the stamina then

[deft badger]

u wish..

u are going to lvlup

took me 30 lvls to be empty 0

and u are like 2-5 now

[sonic bough]

5

[deft badger]

and u have missions which are going to give u 2 refills xD

run auto buy xp and lmd from the shop put it in to gavi, eyja, meteor, lapp. beagle for now skip the others and fill them to the max then e1 them

[sonic bough]

It's better to buy xp and lmd rather than that 5 star (i think) guy?

[deft badger]

u go for lmd and xp

till u clear that out thats the most important for u right now, that are pods for him which u are going to ignore for now

[sonic bough]

Max the 6 stars, I get it

Because they need more XP I think

[deft badger]

not even close to max, just lvl them that 5 will be important rest can w8 😄

[vernal lion]

yea you need to level up them but in a decent level

[deft badger]

go to btw

look what u got ther

[vernal lion]

because the resources you will spend for it will increases exponentially

[sonic bough]

I think I'll first level them up until max cap and then do E1

To don't create a super OP character and the others fall

[deft badger]

which takes couple min, u need chips for them today u can get eyja chips and u have in the shop chips for gavi

+perfumer chips

[sonic bough]

Also E1 perfumer?

[deft badger]

yes but push that eyja first

and look at recruit

[deft badger]

expedite left one

canel right lol

right one is lava

[sonic bough]

Sure

Got Rope on the left

[deft badger]

when u do that look if one of them has nuke

[sonic bough]

Canceled right

[sonic bough]

Left and right

[random widget]

TexAlter timing is super tight

When have a full squad

How to pause deploy?

[vernal lion]

do you have normal Texas

she will add 1-2 dp from starting depended on E1 or 2

[random widget]

Ohh okay

Yes I have her e1

[random widget]

Is your tex mod3 btw?

[deft badger]

100% yes

lol

[random widget]

Yeah lol I can’t do it with mod1

[deft badger]

is urs m3?

[random widget]

Still not enough damage to kill the box in time

Mine is M3 Mod1

[deft badger]

then do it just the stupid way

[random widget]

Are there any operators that Increase damage passively?

[deft badger]

i mean there isn't really a need to start it like this

[random widget]

If I can’t have any alternatives for this start I’ll just 6 star spam the stage

Exalter is so good here Imo

[deft badger]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0Tkzir5Um8

was trying something out wanted to know if krooster can do bot

but u can see what my start looks like lol

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Ohh alright Tysm

[peak cloak]

m3 mod 2 cant do even with pause deploy.
only doable with mod3.

it was mod 2.

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Boooo

[gentle finch]

HI

OOPS

caps lock

[tropic valve]

WHY SHOUTING

[gentle finch]

what is there to wprry about in the

new anni

SORRY CIRN

[dark glade]

I am confused as hell now

[tropic valve]

not that much, there's Eblana but you can nuke her pretty quickly using a variety of strats (I used Schwarz)

[dark glade]

Is that gummy supposed to be there because the new anni cook your operator in fire?

[tropic valve]

there's also casters that set reeds on fire, so you'll want to either kill them early, or cover the reeds with someone to prevent fires from spreading

[gentle finch]

uhh alright

[dark glade]

alternatively just use eyja and cure everyone thats being cooked on fire

[tropic valve]

Wandering Medic helpful but not mandatory

[gentle finch]

my eyja is e0

i pulled her like 20 mins ago

[gentle finch]

ok i am obliged to use schwarz as well then

with pallas of course

[tropic valve]

[dark glade]

Cirno shilling strats always work huh

[gentle finch]

yeah

[tropic valve]

[gentle finch]

bro passively convinced me to buy schwarz

now i dont even play the game

😭

[tropic valve]

a great loss

Pallas fans population -50%

[void terrace]

Damn ceobe absolutely destroys dolly for some reason

[tropic valve]

oh?

Dolly only has 800-900 DEF so that's a bit surprising

but Ceobe does have pretty good DPS innately

[gentle finch]

real

[void terrace]

One skill cycle can pop his shield with fast attacks and still chunk out a portion of his hp. Been able to one cycle first phase of dolly with eyja and ceobe

Mod2 and 3 respectively

Even on cm

[gentle finch]

speaking of dolly

whats the strat for him

[void terrace]

Just spawn camping him so he no longer uses the shitty fire breath is a thing

[gentle finch]

i havent even cleared the normal stage 8

[void terrace]

Mylnar to the moon

[dark glade]

Pop soda > down > burst

[void terrace]

The moment his shield goes down schwing schwing his ass into next year

[gentle finch]

and how do i pop his nuts

[dark glade]

The burst part easily solved by mlynar, with added bonus of baiting dolly column attack

[void terrace]

Soda bottle