strategy

[crystal cargo]

Flags as an archetype kinda just sacrifice everything other than dp gen

I feel like

[deft badger]

placed sail first that dog did beat the hell out of her 😄

[crisp bolt]

elysium in shambles

[crystal cargo]

Skill issue

Ok that’s a bit harsh but

Sail + pioneer works fine

[crisp bolt]

flags when using skill the isn't s1

(except myrtle s2 since it's bad)

some madman did sail s2 in highest risk pinchout clear

[spark sinew]

do i have you in my FL

[crystal cargo]

It does defense buff

Although shining is better

[crisp bolt]

me?

[crystal cargo]

Ely is more support oriented

[spark sinew]

they're all a support archetype

[crystal cargo]

He still plays like a flag

[crisp bolt]

it depends on if you wanted Aak

[spark sinew]

unless you want to argue that suzu isn't a support

cause sail is like closer to very brief suzu

wanted to share the

[crystal cargo]

I wanted aak because my friend with aak has them on s1

[spark sinew]

joys of good skill at m3 with you

[crisp bolt]

truly a good skill to cope with

[cosmic thicket]

qiubai2 based

[spark sinew]

i also have this, used like twice

[crisp bolt]

actually fun

[crystal cargo]

No s1m3 smh

Joke btw

[spark sinew]

don't tempt me

[crystal cargo]

But it would have been nicer for my solo qiubai run

[cosmic thicket]

s1m3 her do it

[crystal cargo]

Since it works well with relics

[crisp bolt]

I've been trying Aak solo

[crystal cargo]

Like if you have good sp relics she can spam it

[crisp bolt]

it's possible

[spark sinew]

i feel like with something like bloodbath

i would rather s3

[crystal cargo]

Bloodbath+ flame

[spark sinew]

s1 having 4 sp still means you need 3 attacks for one s1

[crystal cargo]

Seems like instant s1

[spark sinew]

pretty crappy

bloodbath+flame would work at sl7

[crystal cargo]

Oh the sp cost doesn’t change?

[spark sinew]

it's 5 at sl7

[crystal cargo]

Sad

[spark sinew]

so you would still full charge

[crystal cargo]

I said that before

[crystal cargo]

You said this

SMH my head

[spark sinew]

??

[crystal cargo]

I didn’t know

So I assumed you said that because it didn’t change

[spark sinew]

2+2+1 = 5, she gains 5 sp per attack

so it works even at sl7

[crystal cargo]

I should do another qiubai solo fishing for those then

[spark sinew]

but why

[quick pecan]

oh fuck

rip bozo

[crisp bolt]

F

[spark sinew]

should've drafted hung

[quick pecan]

hung would also be dead

i should’ve drafted therapist

[crystal cargo]

Would you win

[spark sinew]

[crystal cargo]

Should’ve drafted mudrock

[spark sinew]

stand proud, you are strong - Ghostnova

[quick pecan]

ghost nova taking revenge for frost nova

[crystal cargo]

If you have decent defender relics frostnova can’t kill mudrock

[quick pecan]

[crystal cargo]

It’s infinite stall because of the barrier

[crisp bolt]

nah I'd win

[crystal cargo]

[spark sinew]

that's an interesting draft tbh

can't you just spam executors

yeti dies, casters will take awhile

[crystal cargo]

Remember how they have increased time

To redeploy

[spark sinew]

it had a condition I think

[crystal cargo]

If hit by ghost nova frost

[spark sinew]

it's not map wide like gravestone

[crystal cargo]

I guess it works for laneholding

[spark sinew]

oh wait both are e1

yeah, interesting picks

[quick pecan]

huh

[spark sinew]

is this how dragslayer feels when he sees me drafting canta

[quick pecan]

both my executors were e2 lol

hauckindu eyes not working moment

exalt was useless though

[spark sinew]

discord compressed it but looks like e1

[quick pecan]

he got the lose hp when not full debuff

basically dead after one hit

💀

[spark sinew]

exalt bad

invest into humus

[quick pecan]

exalt good

the hope cost of all three of them just sucks

[spark sinew]

exalt is like worse gavialter in is3

if you open with him

[quick pecan]

what

he has better relics

[spark sinew]

but also gets his healing halved on hesitation

gavialter doesn't need relics to be good on OoC for example

or to hold 2 lanes on that f2/f3 double lane map

[quick pecan]

i’m convinced i would lose on out of control regardless of who i draft

[spark sinew]

skill issue
probably don't know about strats for it then

at least on d0 it's probably easy-ish leakless one 🤔

[quick pecan]

i didn’t say it wasn’t

[spark sinew]

skill issues can be easily remedied

[crystal cargo]

This is so sad

Why am i getting wiped by rat king

[glass monolith]

Because you trying to kill him with physical damage?

[crystal cargo]

He kept shooting instead of noving

Killed ansel

D11 is the real difficulty spike

[spark sinew]

||lol lmao ||

[glass monolith]

You only build up my questions of how the hell you brought his HP below 50% with physical damage only

[crystal cargo]

I had survivor contract horn

[spark sinew]

isn't that how it usually goes

[crystal cargo]

It wasn’t enough

[spark sinew]

although wild eyja there

[crystal cargo]

Also had eyja

[spark sinew]

did you use s2 again

[crystal cargo]

Yes

[spark sinew]

naughty boy

[crystal cargo]

[spark sinew]

use s3

[crystal cargo]

Better for killing the bullied

Who come in short waves

[quick pecan]

you can just helidrop her on rat king and bullies with s3

[spark sinew]

is your hung m6 angle

[quick pecan]

the bullies wrap around so there’s at least two in range at a time

[quick pecan]

m5 💀

i need one more s1 mastery

but it uses polymerization

i swear i will never have enough of those

[spark sinew]

i can have a cursed start

well, not cursed but probably worse than spot + pick up 6* after first battle

but considering hung instead

[crystal cargo]

[spark sinew]

although he would do nothing on Looking forward 🤔

[crystal cargo]

Hung + blem combo is real

Trust

[spark sinew]

why would i draft blem

[crystal cargo]

Why draft hung

[spark sinew]

i'll be honest he's better than blem

4+2 vs 7+3 is a world of difference

[crystal cargo]

[spark sinew]

i also wiped on highmore my previous run because no horn

so yeah, skipping horn for blem (not even saria, blem) seems iffy

[crystal cargo]

Hot take when hung has defensive recovery

Bro loses against sarkaz centurion

Well that’s a bad matchup

But you get it

He can’t stall well against high atk enemies un like the other medic defenders

[spark sinew]

he can if you stack his skill before

[crystal cargo]

Ok but what about when you can’t kill the enemy

[spark sinew]

other medic defenders also die against high atk stuff mind you

main problem with blem hung is that they're like protectors with skills that allow them to heal (well, mostly hung)

he just gets bulkier

nearl saria at least can act like bootleg medics without enemies around

[quick pecan]

have you ever used hung

[spark sinew]

NOOOOO

[crystal cargo]

Why would I

When he’s worse than

Nearl

[quick pecan]

so you don’t understand him in a practical scenario

got it

[crystal cargo]

Or saria

[quick pecan]

you don’t use them for the same thing??

[cosmic thicket]

free ending 4 strat!

[crystal cargo]

I know that he’s better against fast atk lower atk mobs

However I would rather draft gummy

[quick pecan]

i would look back at hauck’s analysis

[crystal cargo]

For lower cost

[cosmic thicket]

hung is a helidrop defender with 18/20 sp

it's actually pretty good because it also increases his def, and has the good healing defender mod

[quick pecan]

also i’m speaking generally not just is

[cosmic thicket]

i used hung to open in H12-2 and i don't think gummy nearl or saria would have been able to do the same thing

[spark sinew]

would rather get weedy, mine is unmodded

game is pretty forceful though

[crisp bolt]

you can with saria + sail

that's how I opened for H12-2

[quick pecan]

in is i understand not wanting to draft hung bc you have to manage your tickets more

[crisp bolt]

or I guess if you had max pot saria but I didn't

[cosmic thicket]

probably possible but very annoying

[crisp bolt]

it's not too bad but there's better options if you have it

that's just how I coped through Ch12

[wide sail]

seal my favourite relic even when it gives me garbaj

[crisp bolt]

kal, thorns, and using sail to get out an op I wouldn't normally be able to get out before the first civs

[spark sinew]

it's very strong, free e2 is free e2

[wide sail]

true

[cosmic thicket]

free e2 (costs 16 ingots)

[spark sinew]

as in, no hope cost

[cosmic thicket]

yeah ik

[deft badger]

who should i e2?

[spark sinew]

very substantial boost power wise

[cosmic thicket]

it's just funny to me when people say things are free when they aren't

[deft badger]

i can even do a 6 star

[spark sinew]

you should raise your base workers

[cosmic thicket]

true!

[deft badger]

f- base...

xD

[spark sinew]

F

[deft badger]

i need ops for IS

i can do base slaves when i start grinding IS

i am not going to waste mats on base slaves which give me in the end 20k lmd more daily when i am unable to clear events or do IS

then wait for weeks to get them repaid

[spark sinew]

if you're unable to clear IS with that squad, idk what to tell you

[deft badger]

IS3 d0 with e1?

[spark sinew]

texalter almost solo clears this shit

on low d

[deft badger]

well i can borrow texas i have a cutter and can do one more

[spark sinew]

you don't need e2 to borrow e2 in IS either 👍

do frostleaf e1, purestream and gravel

i heard they're op in IS

trust

[wide sail]

can taxes and 20 temp fodder clear highmore every run on d0

[spark sinew]

every run is interesting

[wide sail]

my guess is no but maybe im bad

[spark sinew]

cause i think without texas e2 you just die

[wide sail]

true 0 voucher

[deft badger]

here we go worst map of all xD

[glass monolith]

7-9

[deft badger]

i remember that i was stuck on that map like for a month on my main 😄

did even have couple e2 six stars at the time lol

and how do i do that with e1 ops -.-

[spark sinew]

6-12?

[deft badger]

yes

nah 14

[spark sinew]

6-14

idk just clear

🛌

[deft badger]

s2 ling?

[spark sinew]

lmao nvm

[spark sinew]

yes

[deft badger]

ok let me google

there isn't a ling solo on youtube

[spark sinew]

because yt bad

[deft badger]

i don't think that i need ling anyway saw a video ling s3 but he uses her to kill some adds on the ground

[spark sinew]

i mean yeah you need s2

[spark sinew]

but if those clear it

surely you can as well

but yeah you need some aa

[spark sinew]

dude

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_Q6Tx0Fg2E

[deft badger]

where is frost now

[solid dew]

gotta clear those first, theres a couple of em then you get FN

[deft badger]

3 more

[solid dew]

theres only 2 of before FN

oh, its because you did S6-1 and S6-2 before

[deft badger]

u must do them they are much before s6-3

i don't know what's more annoying the starting story ep's where they swarm u with drones or those where u are perma frozen

[gleaming lodge]

FNF is on 6-16 as always

[deft badger]

he isn't moving at all...

they are casual shooting him and freezing in place lol

[gleaming lodge]

Did you never play ch6 before ?

That's like the danger in this chapter

[deft badger]

i made 3days ago a new acc

[gleaming lodge]

Did you also reset your memory ?

[glass monolith]

[cosmic thicket]

a doctor's rite of passage fr fr

[deft badger]

i killed FN and my game did crash hahaha

[deft badger]

traumatic experience i forgot about

[gleaming lodge]

Ch 6 is traumatic now ?

[deft badger]

well now it isn't

[glass monolith]

Dark days of NotHavingGravelToSimplifyBaiting

[deft badger]

2024 who uses gravel, now u put yato in to her face and she literally takes her apart

[glass monolith]

Well i found someone with S1 Gravel on friend support while looking for Aak to shoot my Quartz in face

[deft badger]

lol

[spark sinew]

borrowing e2 yato over exu on frostnova

we lost him

[glass monolith]

#strategy message

[deft badger]

https://youtu.be/rPNuf_Fd8dA?t=157

[gleaming lodge]

There is a lot of IQ in the air tonight

[deft badger]

in the video at 0:58 the dude even states let me quote "my ability to use my brain for actual strategy disappeared after getting yato" 😂

[gleaming lodge]

very cool dude

[glass monolith]

Meanwhile my brain: Lumen or Whisperain for status resistance to stall stun inflicting boss with Quartz

[spice mortar]

Any tips for this anni?

[deft badger]

show me ur ops

nvm found them

thorns top facing left

[gray stone]

Very easy now that we have Eyjaberry

[deft badger]

blaze at the door

borrow texas or yato

or u look up a video to see how to use gravel on those monkeys who run crazy when u tuch them

and borrow pozy for the right side

[gray stone]

Oh you have Poncirus

nice, you don't need to worry about bottom lane then

[deft badger]

yellow thorns, green sniper, red healer, white blaze

btw watch a video use SA to kill that winged dude on right side and borrow a texas or yato

[gray stone]

"Red healer" just say Eyjaberry S1

[deft badger]

it does even matter which healer u bring

[spice mortar]

Why not have thorns forward one more

[deft badger]

just leave the cars alone 😄

[gray stone]

Yes, Eyjaberry makes this thing a ton easier

[deft badger]

don;t remember why

leave him there where i did place him i think its because of the fliers

just remember where mine was 😄

[gray stone]

Because the healer can't hit Thorns if you aren't using a Therapist or Wandering Medic
Which you do
So you can move him forward

[spice mortar]

Alright

[deft badger]

and that's bs because my main healer is lumen xD

there is a reason i placed him there and i don't remember why

but i guess its because of the fliers that are inc from bot

watch a video anyway just to see the timings, SA for winged dracula dude

and borrow texas or yato

[gray stone]

It's not, the fliers cross both Thorns's and SNiper's range

[deft badger]

they are flying like this if i remember right...

[gray stone]

No

You have more time to hit the fliers

The fliers move like this

[deft badger]

like i did say i don't remember and i don't really care 😄
literally sick of having to explain every time to a other dude that didn't even ask for help why, like its going to change the world if he is going one tile to the left or right he is going to kill them anyway 😂

[gray stone]

Mostly because the strategy you cook up look easily breakable

[deft badger]

yeah that's why my random s- works 99% of the time first try xD

the main reason i still play this game, put something together it doesn't have to be perfect and it works wuuhuu

[gray stone]

Whatever, I'm just waiting for the update

[sterile delta]

h12-4? both lanes fail like halfway through phase 2 due to elemental damage overload :/

[spice mortar]

Thanks for the tips, didnt look at a silverash guide or borrow anyone though, wasnt really necessary with eyja

[deft badger]

u can prevent the dmg with 2 of the ops u already have there

mlynar and texas

[sterile delta]

i have eyjalter and honeyberry both covering the bottom lane but at a certain point the burst just gets too much

probably stalled for too long ngl

[deft badger]

first hit rare since u have to time it right but everything after that with texas and mlynar

just w8 for them to light up press mlynar skill, same with texas when u see them spawning in texas drop on them

the 🎈 do the dmg

[sterile delta]

oh yea

okay

ill try that out

i was just

spamming mlynar off cd to try to burst them down lol

what do i do about the top lane though, mountain eventually just :(

[gray stone]

Are you using Eyjaberry S1

[sterile delta]

yea

dont have s3 masteries yet

[deft badger]

here so that u understand what i mean u will see i didn't use ele healers 😄

https://youtu.be/uAO5QwTpmpE?t=395

did skip to the spot where i drop them on balloons

[sterile delta]

yea

[deft badger]

u have saria and ele healer so it should be hard to do

[sterile delta]

i understand that

ty

[gray stone]

Eyjaberry helped big ton with this stage, should drop Honeyberry for an AoE healer

[sterile delta]

i have nightingale too lol

[gray stone]

Yeah, another one wouldn't hurt

[deft badger]

does u mlynar die at the end?

[sterile delta]

everyone just exploded because of the 3rd? lifeline burst but ill try your thing

[deft badger]

who dies first?

[sterile delta]

mlynar i think but maybe cuora

[deft badger]

or is it just balloons who kill u

if its mlynar its the dot

[sterile delta]

just balloons

[deft badger]

place the doll on the ground from NG

[gray stone]

They burst in a cross shape, so keep Eyjaberry safe from the cross and it's all gucci

[deft badger]

after they the balloons spawn

[sterile delta]

nightingale just nullifes the arts burst, its just the elemental damage that messed me up

[gray stone]

Part of the burst includes elemental damage

if it instantly pop on your ranged units, it can be a one shot

Again, just keeping Eyjaberry alive is enough to keep everything alive

[deft badger]

i would even maybe try s3 since if u go with NG in, u can use NG skill first then eyja after that

there is a strat with chong i guess u are even doing that, he does a lot of dmg if u set them up wanted to try it but i wasn't able to heal chong 😄
saria goes where my gladia is chong where thorns
chong mlynar and yato kill the boss before the 4th spawns

who can solo patriot?

[cyan gorge]

Penance

[deft badger]

m3? 😄

[cyan gorge]

maxed I assume yeah

[deft badger]

do u have one lol

[cyan gorge]

I have maxed pot6

[deft badger]

would u add me u can kick after that 😄

[cyan gorge]

sure

[foggy grove]

mines solo patriot
real and true

[cyan gorge]

added, I put Kal up too just in case

[foggy grove]

penance just eating the scraps

[deft badger]

ty

have to share this lol

ops that have been carrying to ep7 lol

[cyan gorge]

Poncirus carries chap 7 real

[deft badger]

don't even know what he does but nvm xD

didn't try him out, will probably since hauckindu did put him in his support ops

[cyan gorge]

That's Greyy 2

[deft badger]

i know

and i don't have him

btw i am like 4 away from patriot don't remove penance 😛

working my way there

[cyan gorge]

I mean I'm not in a rush to change back

[deft badger]

only thing i wanna know if i can make it to jt8 with e1 ops 😄

and supports

jt8-2 is 100% the end

[cyan gorge]

probably easily

[deft badger]

lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfglihE8Cj4

[scarlet ledge]

pro

so fast

im lazing around rn on chp7 on my tw

[deft badger]

look whats the next one -.-

[scarlet ledge]

you have e2 right

[deft badger]

yes

[scarlet ledge]

just grab ling solo

if u donf care about auto

[deft badger]

ofc i don't at this time 😄

[scarlet ledge]

ling can solo that

with 5 moves

[deft badger]

i remember that map is annoying as hell 😄

btw i don't have a ling showing up

[scarlet ledge]

or do old strat for that

kekw

[cyan gorge]

Penance solo

mortars die to reflect

[deft badger]

but where do i place her?

[scarlet ledge]

hello zenith

[deft badger]

since they go to two points

[cyan gorge]

probably bottom left

[scarlet ledge]

👋

[cyan gorge]

I might be forgetting some enemies

[scarlet ledge]

bottom left
use other killer on right side

[deft badger]

i have nothing that does dmg to the big guys lol

[scarlet ledge]

penance deal with them

jus time it

on s3 skil

[deft badger]

w8 let me see where they even go

i don't remember that map really, i just know that they are annoying as hell

ling is actually perfect for this 😄

[cyan gorge]

Penance can deal with left side solo as well as mortars

you only need a dps for the heralds

[deft badger]

i will try penance first

nah i have to place a healer for the right side

and those snipers who are walking around just melt them

[cyan gorge]

Idk wasn’t that much of an issue

Gavial is e1

[deft badger]

i don't have her and btw trust matters xDD

what i realized

[cyan gorge]

do you have Gummy e1?

[deft badger]

kinder a lot when u play those low stars

nope

still no gummy for me or perfumer

w8 let me ask in help chat..

[cyan gorge]

I have Ling but no masteries cause I don't use her

[deft badger]

who cares is she e2?

[cyan gorge]

yeah

mod 2

[deft badger]

she is m1 😄

[cyan gorge]

meh I still haven't touched her in over a year

[deft badger]

thats more then fine

easy 😄

i should have used ling from the start for real

next map ling ftw 😄

now i am at 7-17

andd i don't know what to do lol

[celest bluff]

Have a guy lv80

At 2023 he still haven't clear chapter 4

August

[deft badger]

lol

lets bet he is readying story hahahaha

"slow reader"

nah when was the last time we did have a break from events

spends sanity there does a bit IS and if he gest a week or day of spends it on supplies maybe

u don't even get to do story

[celest bluff]

His account started in 2020

[deft badger]

ok then i don't know what that guy does hahaha

better someone tell me what to do at 7-17

where did schwert go

@scarlet ledge hilfe.. 🙂

[celest bluff]

Wait a fucking minute

[scarlet ledge]

yo?

what 7-17?

show map

i forgot

[deft badger]

the problem is that middle lane

[scarlet ledge]

grab mudrock support

[deft badger]

i would go for ling but i cant do a big one there

[scarlet ledge]

focus on other lane

[celest bluff]

I think I remember this one

They didn't touch one of the lane

[deft badger]

yeah because u probably killed them on the way 😄

i wanna see where they go i kinder have the feeling they all go mid first

[scarlet ledge]

@deft badger

focus on blue box i draw

[deft badger]

most of them pass mid

[scarlet ledge]

if u can deal with other lane

[deft badger]

ling can do that probably

[scarlet ledge]

u can put mudrock on middle

[deft badger]

i don't know to use mud properly 😄

[scarlet ledge]

but bottom spot usuallh is better since you gonna block other lane with defender medic

so the spin damage them

[deft badger]

lol, just brain afk strats here

now patriot, how do i do him even with penance only is there a video

[foggy grove]

i mistimed something

[foggy grove]

penance want you to play with mines

almost all of it

[scarlet ledge]

@mossy ore @ornate pond help is fun

[ornate pond]

real fun

[scarlet ledge]

@wicked viper

[celest bluff]

What is happening again now

[ornate pond]

well tbh i was arguing about ng vs eyja alt yesterday

so i cant diss him

[gray stone]

One guy keep getting himself dog piled

[wicked viper]

i mean

[mossy ore]

dumbshit mudrock fan spewing nonsense again and then play the victim card

[wicked viper]

he doesn't stop the hot take

[ornate pond]

oh i think azmael is alive

[wicked viper]

i wonder why

[celest bluff]

[ornate pond]

lemme ping him to mod

[scarlet ledge]

well i was arguing with ardanis about eyja2 is a good medic

[deft badger]

yeah i am watching a video right now

[scarlet ledge]

and "ng is anti res niche"

[ornate pond]

yea thats what i said yesterday

[scarlet ledge]

bro these player got brainrotted

so hard

[gray stone]

already DMed him

[ornate pond]

pro

[celest bluff]

I find myself like Dorothy S2 (physical bind) than s3 (Art damage)

[scarlet ledge]

pro

[celest bluff]

But anyway, will m6 her later

[mossy ore]

can we just get this guy banned
please 🙏

everyday he comes there and start spatting non-sense

[ornate pond]

he used to give semi good advice

[wicked viper]

dorothy s2 is quite comfy since ya don't have to worry about the mine chain ya

[celest bluff]

Ya

[ornate pond]

but hes quite literally a new player that started in LT

[scarlet ledge]

@ornate pond

[gray stone]

You mean he parroted others?

[ornate pond]

i mean help questions are pretty universal so hes not doing any harm

its just

[scarlet ledge]

how long is that player anyeay?

[ornate pond]

"who to build"

[scarlet ledge]

playing thsi game

[ornate pond]

lone trail

[scarlet ledge]

bruh

@ornate pond dont even know how to use damage calc

[celest bluff]

Best advice I can give is "you fucking obliterate the enemy before it become a problem"

That's the reason why I don't give advices

[scarlet ledge]

[mossy ore]

we're at a point in time where a 2-months player act like a know-it-all and argue with veterans

[scarlet ledge]

i mean

[mossy ore]

who can give valid counters

🗣️

[scarlet ledge]

im new player

[mossy ore]

thats so funny

[scarlet ledge]

i give advices

[ornate pond]

i new player

[scarlet ledge]

and i blog on #help

[ornate pond]

lvl 40 in cn

🥺

[scarlet ledge]

[gray stone]

I'm fine with parrotting

[mossy ore]

i actually also blog and casually chat in #help actually

[scarlet ledge]

its finr parotting easy question to answer

[mossy ore]

and sometimes spat out advices

[gray stone]

He reminds me of me 6 months into this server

[mossy ore]

(to remain innocent)

[scarlet ledge]

oh ye @mossy ore

[gray stone]

but even then I don't spew shit takes with that density

[scarlet ledge]

my cn reach 120

[ornate pond]

pro

[mossy ore]

[scarlet ledge]

all my 4 acc is 120

[celest bluff]

As long the parrot is saying established facts

[mossy ore]

i recently reached 60 yesterday

[scarlet ledge]

2 en 120
jp 120
cn 120

[celest bluff]

How do you people have enough time to play that much account

[foggy grove]

it's just leite

[gray stone]

Do the bare minimum is easy

[scarlet ledge]

@celest bluff i have tw acc btw

[gray stone]

I don't bother to do anything else but built shit and play game on my alts

[scarlet ledge]

39 lvl rn

[wicked viper]

you can log in -> farm CE/LS -> log out

unless

you are masochist and farm rock on every account for orundum farm

[celest bluff]

Imagine the future of arknights where you can copy paste clear

[deft badger]

looks like fun

[scarlet ledge]

@celest bluff

my mental ward

asylum

[celest bluff]

[mossy ore]

mods in #help

[scarlet ledge]

kek i just get out

since i do lots of trouble too on #help

[celest bluff]

I wonder how this channel behave

[scarlet ledge]

#strategy is ded

as always

i only answer few question here

[celest bluff]

Not when there is new stage

[scarlet ledge]

about new player not using mevhanics

[celest bluff]

Anyway

[mossy ore]

#strategy and #is-station are like the haven for me

i can come ehre and blog

and not get my ass warned for off-topic

[celest bluff]

Had you guys done cooking Harrold

[scarlet ledge]

harolr is kek

[mossy ore]

no shit lol i got slapped on RS-7

[scarlet ledge]

hope en have fun with him

since en just brute force

[mossy ore]

RS is another of those event where it punishes you severely for not using the mechanic

(operators freeze in 3s)

[scarlet ledge]

https://youtu.be/GSdIRhPmXYw?si=wbsJypzSk9T-pL8P

[mossy ore]

wtf thorns

[deft badger]

didn't look in to help for 10min 446 messages hahahaha

[scarlet ledge]

me lazy

[mossy ore]

[celest bluff]

Unfortunately as I heard
He have damage reduction (true damage included)

So basically Kristen

[scarlet ledge]

damage reduction if not on lit furnace

[celest bluff]

Literally Frostpunk

[scarlet ledge]

oh ye his damage hurts

if ur ops is not on lit furnace

he disabled ur furnace too

[celest bluff]

Ya know
I should make memes

[mossy ore]

harold sounds fun :rednaruhodo:

[scarlet ledge]

so u have keep lit em

[celest bluff]

Guard Amiya s3 when

[scarlet ledge]

@celest bluff @mossy ore https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/669489344658014208/1198595379814465556/Harold_uses_Nuke.gif?ex=65bf79ef&is=65ad04ef&hm=a66f055e278bd8e046a922d50c244f54a3f5f1630e3bf7750b2b7c23476f8056&

[celest bluff]

Alright

Yeah sure

Can silence alt do anything about it

[deft badger]

uhh so close...

[gray stone]

No

[deft badger]

so where is naga now

[gray stone]

Probably work

[deft badger]

to show him that u can get the 180 in 3 days 😄
on a new acc

[gray stone]

10 AM for him

[scarlet ledge]

@gray stone harold snow balls is just dumb

[wicked viper]

bp can mostly solo bottom lane in SL-8

with some mlynar and archetto support ig

still easier than whatever kyo is running

[foggy grove]

a lot of unit can solo bot tbh

[wicked viper]

ye but a lot of people just give argument like thorns solo bottom lane

when he in fact, will struggle

[foggy grove]

but i guess eyja is more common for them? idk

[scarlet mortar]

a maxed W S1 Ymod soloes up til 29

[wicked viper]

ye eyja s2 would be fine

but theres an argument for eyja s3

[scarlet mortar]

do not ask questions

[wicked viper]

which is weird

also i think dorothy should solo it too

hold on

[scarlet mortar]

nope

[foggy grove]

i did doro

[scarlet mortar]

you need to kill the fliers

[limpid siren]

wow greyy > bp real

[wicked viper]

idk i don't have greyy to try

but make sense

[scarlet mortar]

doro's helpless against 15k hp lmao

[wicked viper]

nah only account for bottomlane

[limpid siren]

i'm surprised bp does so well tbh

[wicked viper]

the white cloud increase the funny poison dmg

lmao

[scarlet mortar]

bot isn't that much pressure besides the flying sheep

[limpid siren]

flying sheep are from top anyway

[wicked viper]

i assume people will use whatever killed boss to deal with flying sheeps anyway

[scarlet mortar]

well i can't so

[limpid siren]

at worst you can at least knock them down

if you have the good player kroos

[scarlet ledge]

thorns solo BROKEN

thorns solo dolly too

frfr

[wicked viper]

ye dorothy works too

but less afk cuz ya have to deploy mines

oh wait

i saw the funny

[scarlet mortar]

she only gets overwhelmed on p2

assuming you kill flying sheep on top

[wicked viper]

dorothy mine is dying from the friendly sheep explosion

[scarlet mortar]

yh

weird stuff

[foggy grove]

ye i saw that too

[wicked viper]

and because of how it's coded, taking dmg trigger the ! animation too

[scarlet mortar]

wdym

[wicked viper]

the s3 mine has the red ! when it's about to detonate

[scarlet mortar]

uh no

that's a crit mine

[wicked viper]

oh

idk

not my dorothy

[foggy grove]

[scarlet mortar]

fluffy buddies are the enemies of all time

[wicked viper]

friendly sheep ignore the untargetable status of mines ig

i don't think other source dmg mines tho

[scarlet mortar]

yeag probs bc they have the healing tag

[wicked viper]

like chapter 9 invocator

[limpid siren]

[wicked viper]

nah that one is my bad

never use dorothy before

or any trapmaster after module

[scarlet mortar]

doro is a really weird option if you want to lanehold bot

[limpid siren]

Seems like a fine choice to me

[scarlet mortar]

i mean... why not someone with consistent damage

her mapwide control is useless here

[limpid siren]

?

Why

[scarlet mortar]

she works but also really extra

[limpid siren]

Pseudoglobal range doesn’t mean you can’t focus on a corner

Feels like you’re being a bit dramatic about this

[scarlet mortar]

i'm not, it's just kinda sad

[limpid siren]

If you say

[scarlet mortar]

just plop down a marksman or sth

[wicked viper]

i means

you don't need crit for dorothy to 1 shot them no?

[foggy grove]

it's fun
enemy barely taking steps from stair and oops now they don't exist

[wicked viper]

modless dorothy prob still work

[scarlet mortar]

again it's not that it's hard for her

[wicked viper]

it's just not afk sure

but most marksman kinda leak if solo tho

[limpid siren]

the dreaded button press

[scarlet mortar]

just put down a blocker

[wicked viper]

if 1 ops work

why bring 2

[scarlet mortar]

bc you'll need enough people on top lane and on dolly duty anw

[limpid siren]

realistically the soft limit for top lane is about 2/3 ops

[scarlet mortar]

doro is relatively disadvantaged bc you're spending more DP elsewhere and that limits her use when she already isn't doing much for the boss

though if you want to go real low op i'm being nitpicky anw

[limpid siren]

the only time dp really matters is the first chance to knock dolly down

greyy costs me 24 dp to deploy, and i still have enough dp for kroos and provence after that

[wicked viper]

i didn't bring any vanguards for it to work so

[limpid siren]

so this feels like a weak argument

[wicked viper]

prob won't matter much

but even then

you dont have to kill dolly on the top lane either

[limpid siren]

oh this also includes the 10 dp for two bottles

so

[scarlet mortar]

3op?

[limpid siren]

dorothy could deploy and use like 4 mines and the dp budget still tracks

you can do it as a 3 op sure

i added more because i am lazy

[scarlet mortar]

yh i'm being nitpicky when you want to optimize lmao

[celest bluff]

So Dorothy can solo bot lane?

[wicked viper]

ya

easily

[limpid siren]

there's just nothing to nitpick there

[scarlet mortar]

greyy kroos2 provence sounds like a trio

[celest bluff]

I slapped Fia in for good measure (overkill)

[limpid siren]

i can even drop morgan onto the boss during p1 knockdown to confirm the kill

[scarlet mortar]

is this just what i get for having to play with shit antiair

[limpid siren]

you drank the "marksman bad" koolaid

[scarlet mortar]

well enemyknights has none

[limpid siren]

[scarlet mortar]

so

[limpid siren]

interesting team

[scarlet mortar]

it is completely fucked against most flying bosses

[foggy grove]

where is your dusk?

[scarlet mortar]

doro can't lanehold and deploying W/dusk costs a fortune

no vg's

a trio forces me to deal with dolly early but i can't without leaking flying sheep

[limpid siren]

yea you're kinda boned with that team comp

[celest bluff]

Ain't Exu + warf deal top lane

[foggy grove]

he is playing janky niche

[scarlet mortar]

not enemyknights

[celest bluff]

F

Bruh

Tf is enemyknights

[scarlet mortar]

ops which have appeared as an enemy sprite

[celest bluff]

Oh god

There never an enemy Vanguard

[limpid siren]

do you count eunectes s3 for this?

[scarlet mortar]

only S3

[limpid siren]

what about tomimi

[scarlet mortar]

but i don't have her and she's antisynergetic with all the cc enemy has anw

[scarlet mortar]

doesn't have an enemy sprite gg

[foggy grove]

minimalist

[scarlet mortar]

he's in

actually laneholds well for bot until the flying sheep

[celest bluff]

Does the green British cat count

[scarlet mortar]

not an enemy sprite

[foggy grove]

degen doesn't count?

[celest bluff]

Does she even release yet

NO

[scarlet mortar]

she does but where am i getting her for global

[foggy grove]

just time travel

[celest bluff]

I picking up Honeyberry for is3

[foggy grove]

why?

they are not that useful there

[cyan gorge]

berries are fine at low diff but at 9+ stats are so high elemental healing is useless

[limpid siren]

i'd still prefer to just heal through ele dmg at low difficulty

but it doesn't really matter

she was top 3 iirc for medic drafts

[deft badger]

@spark sinew u are sleeping probably but here is why i did push to ep8 😄

now i can have those 2 looking at gladiia... in 12hours tequila

[celest bluff]

Hmmm

[foggy grove]

take bottom

clueless

[celest bluff]

Yeah I should fight the flowers

[viscid raft]

How do you guys deal with the tanky goat on SL-4? I cant find a solution for it

[deft badger]

caster

if u have e1 ops its hard af 😄

[crystal cargo]

use helidrop to bait

[deft badger]

stupid cone sheep nearly 1 hits ur ops

[crystal cargo]

then use defender + smoke + arts to kill

[viscid raft]

i have 0 e casters

[deft badger]

borrow eyja

do u have a e2 op at least?

[viscid raft]

no, i only have 3 e1 and the rest of my characters are below e1

[deft badger]

ignore that stage for now go to sl1

setup a auto

spam that

[viscid raft]

i got auto at sl-3

[deft badger]

then do sl3

[viscid raft]

im trying to do that for sl-4

[deft badger]

drops the same

[viscid raft]

+9 for -12?

[viscid raft]

whos that?

[deft badger]

that fat sheep is tanky as hell not even worth trying with 2 e1s

[crystal cargo]

like gravel

first attack the big sheep drops small sheep a

and does extra damage

i think

[viscid raft]

oh so u bait their little sheep and offensive stat?

[crystal cargo]

yes

make sure to put the white smoke

before blocking it

[viscid raft]

This is what I'm using rn

[deft badger]

i think u don't realize the amount of dmg there is

xD

[crystal cargo]

i do its hard on e0 mainly

[viscid raft]

the problem is the last wave on the left side

right side i have no problems

[deft badger]

i did it yesterday on the acc i made 3 days ago with a full team of e1 they 1 hit liskarm

[viscid raft]

i dont have enough time to put down white smokes on the left side

[crystal cargo]

use gravel and another blocker to isolate them

[deft badger]

eyja s2 m3 mod 3 has a hard time killing that sheeps i don't even know which caster to suggest at this point that is e1

[crystal cargo]

eyja must be defective because i dont think she struggles with sheep

[deft badger]

he is talking about sl4 left side

at a point there are 2 cone sheeps and 3 fat

[crystal cargo]

yeah

block 1 fat sheep, bait one, block other in front of first blocker

use arts then hope you win

must have white smoke

its pretty hard on dp

[viscid raft]

ill try another comp out

[celest bluff]

Fucking finally

[foggy grove]

the fat sheep can't even one hit e0 lv1 defender
sounds like smoke management issue

[deft badger]

the fat sheep the moment it connects to someone does stupid amount of dmg

and its not smoke

spot took 2k dmg from it

https://youtu.be/6wAtnDBC7Mc

i think some people don't understand the amount of dmg those cones do and how tanky that stupid sheeps are

liskarm takes 1,7k

didn't let it hit her ofc because it would be 80% of her hp, it doesn't matter if u are in smoke or not the op that blocks the sheep the cone spawns and hits for stupid amounts

[celest bluff]

Fuck yeah

I also get the sniper scope

[deft badger]

u have the video up there i let actually the first one hit my liskarm just to show u how much dmg that is 😄

and for sure not smoke problems here

[foggy grove]

where

[deft badger]

scroll up

[foggy grove]

i don't see any one hitting

[deft badger]

what are u showing me right now?

[foggy grove]

your vid literally shows op on pink smoke taking the hit

see on the white smoke it's not that damaging

[deft badger]

yeah because u bait it

and the dmg wasn't even the f- point of it

main talk was how tanky they are to begin with

[celest bluff]

I gonna fucking die

[foggy grove]

this is pointless
"the fat sheep the moment it connects to someone does stupid amount of dmg and its not smoke"

[celest bluff]

Got a maxed fartooth

Which skill I using and which module

[deft badger]

but it did 1,2k outside smoke 2k in smoke

[celest bluff]

Oh yeah suicide bombing sheep

[deft badger]

didn't even wanna talk about dmg, i wanted to talk about how much that thing does eat dmg like its nothing

takes 4 s2 eyja balls to kill it

[tropic valve]

damn

E WFU moment

got Nightingale?

[celest bluff]

No

Fucking e1 reed

I not gonna survive this shit considering half my team gonna lose hp like

I gonna be so flabbergasted if the contract decided to give Kaltsit 8000 atk again

Hemopoietic inhibition

[foggy grove]

they balanced the stats around the white smoke and they went overboard

[deft badger]

well it all started that with R meaning its fine to do it with two e1s and without e2, i don't know which e1 caster u can borrow that does that amount of dmg

i think one ball does 1,690 dmg to it and that's with -25% res and 10RES ignore
it eats 4 of them, sry but when i see a add eat 4 eyja balls i am calling that thing hard to kill 😄

and i think borrowing reed e1s2 would be a smart thing to do if someone can burst them down then she should be able to

[celest bluff]

Update
No need to die

[foggy grove]

[glass monolith]

Good relic. If only it was spawning somewhere RIGHT OUTSIDE FLOOR 5 BOSS

[foggy grove]

one of the most useless relic

[celest bluff]

Don't you planned to fight floor 6after that

[glass monolith]

If i plan floor 6, End of Times erases from game code

[celest bluff]

Damn

[deft badger]

bro who wants to deal with that 😄

[celest bluff]

1500 def

25 res

[glass monolith]

Laugh in Astgenne

[deft badger]

yeah with 18k hp thats a lot of def and res 😄

[celest bluff]

Mon3tr

Bust a move

...

Wait

It is just the giga zombie from pvz

Launch imp

[deft badger]

mlynar needs 5 swings to kill that thing lol

big fella

[celest bluff]

Bigger fella

[glass monolith]

Go back to sleep it is 16 hours before them

[deft badger]

10

ahh nvm, tequila is in 10 😄

same with event actually its in 10 hours and 30min

i am getting ready to sleep anyway, eating farming chips will be done in like 5min and i am gone

[foggy grove]

[void terrace]

Damn

[quick pecan]

he looks so sexy when he punches sheep

[foggy grove]

fr

[quick pecan]

don’t ask why

but i sparked gavialt

too much balans

[foggy grove]

but do you use them?

[full finch]

gav is good

[quick pecan]

gavialt and chong can just take turns killing ig

[full finch]

can confirm

[quick pecan]

she ballin

⛹️

[full hemlock]

any1 have an idea how to clear this without mlynar? i need it for auto dep

[quick pecan]

ive been playing a lot of 5* knights so uhhh

well if stages get hard and i don’t want to think then i rarity abuse

but i will at least attempt with 5* first

[foggy grove]

let me suggest you x,y,z operator that you might or might not have

[tropic valve]

try this strat: https://youtu.be/3xt-EXFFl0w?si=Qe_06QcvuZshSgq2

[tidal sedge]

Just because guides use Mlynar doesn't mean he's the only thing that works

Typically folks use marksman + soda to down Dolly and use strong phys dps that's effective vs 800 def. Usually a high atk sniper/guard, buffing the marksman they're using, or debuffing Dolly defense similarly

I down with Exu and use Ntrk + Skadi personally

[celest bluff]

Exu+warf brrrttttt

[vernal lion]

easy slap

[spark sinew]

i mean, thorns are one of the top picked guards

"hype" around unit being good sure creates some interesting stats

[gray stone]

People pick what they know works
Why experiment when shits just work

Shining pick rate in CC always manages to surprise people somehow

[tidal sedge]

I find that interesting because kit variety is like the one redeeming feature gachas have to me

[tall cairn]

[spark sinew]

it doesn't surprise me cause she has a horny skin and was in a beginner banner
although now she will only be used by "old" players so

[quick pecan]

saria usage rate goin strong 💪

[spark sinew]

saria is actually good, so

[gray stone]

We overestimate the average gacha player

Most of the base in this game are either underdeveloped or 333

[wicked viper]

kinda the same reason why a lot of AFK guide still use eyja s2 ig

because easily available

[quick pecan]

saria feels so much better than nearl with mod y

[wicked viper]

when there are like 5 afk skill work better

[quick pecan]

the difference really accentuates nearl’s frailty whenever i use her after using saria

[tidal sedge]

I see 243 the most when I actually look at the bases on friend list

[gray stone]

This is also why the propaganda last stupidly long

[spark sinew]

nearl is better in ch12 unless p6 saria

otherwise you run both or you have some strat in mind

[wicked viper]

not everyone look at guide when playing ya

[tidal sedge]

Just run MuMu now

[spark sinew]

i got burned by 21dp