strategy

[jovial nest]

chances are too low

and it breaks my heart when a good run just ends in f4's end

[spice mortar]

Can anyone give me some tips for he 7 killing the disruptora

[cosmic thicket]

show us ur squad

[cosmic thicket]

is this HE-7 or HE-EX-7

[spice mortar]

Normal one

He 7

[cosmic thicket]

uhhh

basically what u can do is quickly put planks to bridge the gaps so the rocks can hit the far planks

this will make like half of the enemies fall into a hole when they spawn

[spice mortar]

Getting the dp to keep citizen calm is annoying though but i will try

[cosmic thicket]

I mean the rest of the stage u just click myrtle skill and get DP for citizens

obviously don't click all the time but click when it's like 2/3 the way there so it gets full benefit

you can probably drop exu and kroos for more vanguards to make it easier

[spice mortar]

Thanks

[cosmic thicket]

np

[tall cairn]

Are FRDs > stacking snipers?

[cosmic thicket]

I run spec B which benefits mlynar lin and goldenglow, and to a lesser extent penance ange and gnosis

Aspd goldenglow is 100% the most overrated combo in SSS

[spice mortar]

I did it 🙂

[gray stone]

Double flags?

Weird

[tall cairn]

Ah I was just wondering because I usually have a couple snipers to stack.

[spice mortar]

I didnt have enough dp for everything but this worked so

[gray stone]

That's because your lanes are split up

Place the plank in the middle allows you to funnel things there

[spice mortar]

Ohh

I rhought theyd just keep going to the left

Even the disruptors go to the middle?

[gray stone]

If you place the plank, yes

[spice mortar]

Ok ty

[cosmic thicket]

They take shortest distance to blue box after they cross all their checkpoints

[gleaming lodge]

The trick is that the game doesn't tell you about those checkpoints

[gray stone]

HE-EX-7 CM is easy because of that

Half the enemies krilled themselves

They were mostly dogs but

[tall cairn]

Defo works better on Raythean than Mama John’s.

[scarlet ledge]

I FUCKING DID IT

IS3 TW FIRST WIN

@gray stone

rngesus is very good

gib me lots of ops

[gray stone]

Ling

[scarlet ledge]

@gray stone look at this shit

[gray stone]

[scarlet ledge]

bro free ops

irghh

[gray stone]

That's a lot of free shits

[scarlet ledge]

ye

w is the key

[gray stone]

How to get those

[scarlet ledge]

for downing the boss

[scarlet ledge]

i got lucky...

[gray stone]

Send me the luck bestie

[wide sail]

how much maxhp was that

[hexed veldt]

P

[scarlet ledge]

oh ye i unlocked this @gray stone

this is my second play on tw is3

[cosmic thicket]

this is 100% wrong lmao

[scarlet ledge]

with shitty ops

[gray stone]

Nc

I haven't done a proper IS run

On my CN acc

[cosmic thicket]

it's better for mama john's bc ur melee/ranged stacks don't work separately so there's no "useless stacks"

[tall cairn]

You can just stack ranged on raythean tho?

[cosmic thicket]

0 blockers is quite weirdge

[tall cairn]

Saria.

[cosmic thicket]

it also means ur vgs do nothing

[tall cairn]

Vgs don’t need to do anything tho.

[cosmic thicket]

huh

do you not play emergency

[tall cairn]

I do.

It’s consistent.

[cosmic thicket]

what's ur squad

[tall cairn]

Hold on I’m running rma.

[cosmic thicket]

bc my ideal raythean comp is like this

[tall cairn]

Mudrock does nothing yeah.

[dark glade]

My raythean is just gg and 2 aoe healer

The other is fodder

[tall cairn]

gg does shut down the boss for free.

[cosmic thicket]

I mean so does any op that hits air and does ok damage

Mlynar takes 2 skills and I'm pretty sure Irene can kill too

[gleaming lodge]

Isn't SSS trivial anyway ?

[cosmic thicket]

yes

[tall cairn]

Yea.

[spice mortar]

Beat he7 wtf is he8

I got to enemy 22 before he did his reduce block thing and i got screwed over

Any advice for this stage

Idk how to keep the citizens from dying either

[foggy grove]

you want 3 block op or drop frd when the boss does the -2 block

mud and cuora is there so you can rotate it or just plug it with gravel

[heady hedge]

5vg mlynar exists

[cosmic thicket]

5vg is actually not that bad

[heady hedge]

actually

do you mean pure 200 aspd gg?

[cosmic thicket]

i prefer some combo of vg and spec but works

[heady hedge]

or 100% aspd 5sp/s

[cosmic thicket]

pure aspd definitely but honestly building around her is a waste of slots imo

[heady hedge]

pure aspd gg is

whatever

[spice mortar]

Ty

[cosmic thicket]

ground carries are much better than going mixed or having ur vanguards completely useless post early stage

[heady hedge]

i wont really talk much about sss anyways because i havent done it for a good 3 months

[limpid siren]

having ur vanguards completely useless post early stage

all fodder is useless once you have your carries set up

generally

[vernal lion]

unless the first carry died, you deploy your carry of 2nd, 3rd, etc...

[limpid siren]

not sure that's really descriptive of most runs

a dead carry is often a fail state, and if you're sitting on another carry

you just deploy them on top anyway

[vernal lion]

that's just like the old time when your first pick is not folder and you have to temporize by yourself

[limpid siren]

sure but that's that, and this is this

[vernal lion]

I just want they reopen the old one

[cosmic thicket]

no it's like not even having an op to stack those vanguards on

[heady hedge]

wym bro 5vg saga

[limpid siren]

yea uh

because they're already deployed

ground teams are more efficient with vanguard usage, but mixed teams aren't exactly chomping at the bit to stack sniper fodder if they have a leftover deployment slot

[vernal lion]

just use vgB

I begin using less melee carry like Irene because they just suck from the beginning

[limpid siren]

irene's value as a carry was always overstated

[latent anvil]

irene just suck always been that way

[limpid siren]

looking forward to the irene vs degenbrecher discussions

[latent anvil]

it shouldnt even be close

[vernal lion]

stack 5 guard A and keep redeploying specialist

big brain play

think about the other mod for Irene, it should be auto sp recovery for s3 instead, then she won't get powercreeped by Degen

[foggy grove]

a very big cope

[vernal lion]

the same goes to Chen s3 too

[latent monolith]

chen is basically auto rec anyways
Her talent is 0.66 sp/sec

[foggy grove]

can i get that for exec too

on top of current module

[vernal lion]

yes, but she SHOULD get the auto recovery too

[limpid siren]

it kinda stings that the best way to modernise a swordmaster is to move them away from atk recovery, which has been part of their identity from the start

[gray stone]

Sucks that happened, but it wasn't a concrete part of their archetype design I guess

[limpid siren]

it's just the same thing that happened with mountain and brawlers, except this time it's the same rarity

[gray stone]

We usually don't get another 6 star as first of their archetype anymore for that reason

[limpid siren]

sure

i just mean

updating a unit to be relevant in modern ak usually comes in the form of being able to ignore archetypal weaknesses

[karmic glade]

the whole attack recovery for swordmaster doesn't make sense, double hit doesn't even generate 2 DP

[gray stone]

or just really strong numbers I guess

[limpid siren]

that too

[gray stone]

But it looks cool

Ch'en was the first Swordmaster to be designed, and that caused some problems

The archetype's schtick is just flashy nukes

[limpid siren]

i think they're good problems to have though

like

not every launch unit should scale well

power creep for both sides is necessary eventually

[gray stone]

They really tried to stick to their guns that a 6 star unit will be useful in at least 1 scenario

[gray stone]

Watch the 6 star Hunter being busted as hell

[limpid siren]

[gray stone]

6 stars get to have nice things that lower rarities don't

like 2 modules

[limpid siren]

i still cope that we'll get second modules for 5*s eventually

[gray stone]

Ebenholz having his 3rd module opens up a huge can of worms

[limpid siren]

yea that's why i cope

[gray stone]

Who to up next out of these goons

Bibeak?

[scarlet fulcrum]

silence for is4

[gray stone]

nuh uh

[limpid siren]

bibeak is such a workhorse yea

[gray stone]

Did they not add the welfare tax to her or something

She has normal redeploy time

[limpid siren]

she gets good player pots yea

[scarlet fulcrum]

Her pot different yea

[gray stone]

damn, weird privilege

[scarlet fulcrum]

Most ops but not all, from IS and CC shop

[gray stone]

More recent CC ops don't have that

[limpid siren]

was it tuye that got hit with the welfare pots?

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yea

[limpid siren]

erato went back to good player pots

[gray stone]

oh I only checked Tuye lmao

[limpid siren]

yea she randomly got stiffed

[gray stone]

oh, CC perma shop has these things added

Pots are cheaper as a whole, while welfares and skins are more expensive

[polar crane]

welfare pot is cheaper as well

they're cheaper overall

[gray stone]

welfares as a whole are more expensive

450 tokens more expensive

[polar crane]

[gray stone]

if you grab the max pot

and skins are a scam

[polar crane]

they sell rma?

[gray stone]

yuh

[polar crane]

I will grab 10

[gray stone]

Unlimited btw

[limpid siren]

new 5* pots?

[gray stone]

This is just the old shop, there were no extra additions iirc

[limpid siren]

[gray stone]

except the banner I think

[polar crane]

they gone forever now

[gray stone]

oh god they save your past CC progress

[gray stone]

Mostima pot5 diff

[gray stone]

@polar crane help

Emer

[polar crane]

who do you have

leak these 2 is the easy way

[gleaming lodge]

just leak them ?

[gray stone]

I leaked 2 slugs

[polar crane]

dorothy s2 can kill both iirc

[karmic glade]

[polar crane]

i will try reedic start after m6 and module

[gray stone]

A small amount of of tomfoolery

[polar crane]

you're fine with yato

just leak duck

or yato his ass

[gray stone]

What's IS4 mechanics again

Collapsal levels?

[polar crane]

ye

leak = cancer

[gray stone]

this one looks like there will be flying little shits

[polar crane]

craft rune = cure cancer somewhat

[polar crane]

the flying guy from CW

[karmic glade]

if you let them attack you they can't fly

[polar crane]

lonetrail if you dont remember

[gray stone]

wut

they cant fly without gravity doe

[polar crane]

they can

[gray stone]

wtf

[polar crane]

the map have vent

he will fly if movement speed is enough

[karmic glade]

so they basically need a runway to take off

[polar crane]

just block the runway

they deal 0 damage to beagle

on low dif

[karmic glade]

put a ops here they will just not be able to fly

because they are too carried away from attacking your ops

[polar crane]

there's also the defender guy

you have yato so it fine

[gray stone]

Yato start

kinda dog sht ngl

[scarlet ledge]

wtf spy

[gray stone]

tf is this menu

[scarlet ledge]

spawncamp duh

[karmic glade]

its the new system, combine target and effect to customize the board

you can for example, target all non combat node, turn them into shops

[scarlet ledge]

glad for u guys

[polar crane]

the top is target the bottom is effect

[scarlet ledge]

im suffering here on tw is2/3

[polar crane]

you might need to click the node for the target rune

[limpid siren]

good

[polar crane]

some rune is better it just select all

[scarlet ledge]

oh ye igneus

i won is3

on tw

[limpid siren]

[scarlet ledge]

lucky on free ops kek @limpid siren

[limpid siren]

proud of u

dagda sweep

[gray stone]

The red ones turn nodes into emergency or something?

[quick pecan]

fml i’m sugar gated

have to wait for lingering echoes

skull

[karmic glade]

seems to be this one, btw "Agreement" means when you combine two board with the same color

[polar crane]

the red one is for combat

[karmic glade]

https://prts.wiki/w/探索者的银凇止境/密文板研究

[vernal lion]

there are 2 different red

[gray stone]

I just got destroyed

[polar crane]

ye that normal

I got my ass beat like 10 times on d0

map knowledge is really uhhh

[latent anvil]

i never beat d0

[polar crane]

someone say the word

[latent anvil]

lost like 30 times for it

[gray stone]

0 3 stars built except Kroos and Spot so

[vernal lion]

@scarlet ledge I just got Leizi from kernel banner

with only 1 pull

[quick pecan]

i committed account damage

[vernal lion]

I'm dip

[quick pecan]

and bought my last executor pot

[vernal lion]

yea I think

[latent anvil]

executor is good

last time i used him was on OD-8 i think

or maybe ex8

[quick pecan]

max pot + elysium

all to get this man to 27dp cost

[vernal lion]

I think my 5 star will get full pot too, if I don't get any pot 2 for 6 star

sucked game

[gray stone]

This thing looks funny

[polar crane]

it like half coconut in is1

[vernal lion]

this stage still gives me heart attack tho

[polar crane]

choose careful

or just dip

[gray stone]

I have 3 medics

[polar crane]

gangang

[glass monolith]

Civilian: Thanks. jumps into hole

[tidal sedge]

Guys i just started yesterday should i make any new changes to my team or make a completely new one? How should i play do i place my ops near the enemy spawn or blue box we have to defend?

[polar crane]

replace plume with fang

and use steward instead of amiya

[crystal cargo]

use melantha instead of jessica

[polar crane]

you shouldn't put your op around red box

learning spawn camp too soon only hurt

there are few exceptions

but ya strategy depends on stages

[polar steppe]

how do i destroy this tile for the medal

[tidal sedge]

Thanks

I heard its better to keep two of each class?

[polar crane]

just patch all for the medal no?

why destroy it

[polar crane]

yep

[tidal sedge]

So do i change jessica out for melantha or no?

[polar steppe]

i cant patch something that is intact

[polar crane]

keep 2 sniper

[glass monolith]

Medal is have 0 holes when map ends, not destroy all boards and replace them like being a Mayor who imitates doing something

[polar steppe]

i have spent two hours trying to destroy all of them so they could all be reparied

[vernal lion]

the medal is just "all holes get planked", no?

[polar steppe]

i read it as “you must destroy each hole and then repair all of them”

[vernal lion]

smh Yostar

[polar crane]

[deft badger]

did someone reroll recently

[polar crane]

ye why

[deft badger]

how did it go?

[polar crane]

not well

I rather stick with a bad account and lucksack later

[deft badger]

with recently i mean after ines till now 😄

in that time period people telling me its just unlucky but i am rolling since 4 days lol

[cosmic thicket]

for what

[deft badger]

i want a nice 2nd acc

[vernal lion]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgDSQeQ8z0A&ab_channel=Sciel

[frozen cedar]

Hac

[glass monolith]

I am too lazy to watch, IS4 has event like with rats in IS2 where you can just effectively exchange having too much of Hope into insta win?

[polar crane]

I never do gamba node

[spice mortar]

Any advice for this anni, the last waves wreck my team

[polar crane]

can I see the map layout?

[polar crane]

let me think for a bit

[spice mortar]

I will let you think

[pallid veldt]

he will let you think

[polar crane]

borrow ling for lanehold I think

[spice mortar]

The solution to all my anni problems seem to be ling

[polar crane]

knock one of the rock on top or bottom to funnel into 1 lane

[spice mortar]

Just keep her alive then while her summone keep lane?

[polar crane]

ya

[crystal cargo]

bring a chongyue

[polar crane]

there will be some romba guy will go above the 2 holes there

[spice mortar]

Rocks dont block lane tho?

[polar crane]

you need someway to deal with them

[spice mortar]

What is a chongyue

[crystal cargo]

lemme check what i did for it

[polar crane]

rock does block lane

knock the top rock on face top and everything will go down

[spice mortar]

So if i break a bottom rock all the bottom guys will go top?

[polar crane]

ye

[crystal cargo]

chong basically holds the lane well

with healing ofc

hes also good to fight the boss

[quick pecan]

why so many healers

[spice mortar]

So should i borrow ling or chongyue

[crystal cargo]

you need to crash the pillars into the boss

[polar crane]

for the romba guy you can just exu them

[crystal cargo]

to ground it btw

so gravel works

just get the pillars to the red stage

[spice mortar]

How do i do that

[crystal cargo]

hit them until their hp is gone then retreat gravel

you need to drop 2 pillars onto the boss

one at the start

and 1 at a certain hp threshold

because it cant be hit by ground units

unless you pillar it

[polar crane]

the boss only fly on phase 2

[spice mortar]

What class is chongyue

[crystal cargo]

guard

[polar crane]

guard

[quick pecan]

brawler guard

[polar crane]

you need m3

[quick pecan]

would you like to borrow my max pot chong

[polar crane]

yes please add me in cn official

[crystal cargo]

i kinda got torched at the end because i messed up but you can salvage it with a mudrock

[polar crane]

I can let you borrow my 5 star

[spice mortar]

Yes

[quick pecan]

oh

cn

unfortunate

i am en mid

[polar crane]

[spice mortar]

I am also en

[crystal cargo]

you could also try something like this

if chong strat doesnt work out

[quick pecan]

Angle#3651

[crystal cargo]

you knock the pillar at C10 down forcing everything top and borrow thorns shaw shoves most of it into the hole, drop the pillars on the boss

[quick pecan]

also actually i lied

healers are the move

[crystal cargo]

also move thorns to d9

well

its not how i did it

[quick pecan]

the elemental damage proc + enemies can potentially kill chong if you don’t heal him fast enough

[crystal cargo]

but its an option

[spice mortar]

Added

[quick pecan]

but if you have healing it should be fine

[crystal cargo]

i needed ptilo s2 to keep him alive

[quick pecan]

could bring a wandering medic ig

[crystal cargo]

but ng should work

[quick pecan]

i just outhealed

[crystal cargo]

same

[quick pecan]

lvl 90 chong still loading

i will use lingering echoes rerun + so long adele exp on him

[gray stone]

Damn

[crystal cargo]

its mostly afk with chong ngl

[quick pecan]

ture

[spice mortar]

Something like this?

[crystal cargo]

yeah that should work

you dont need shaw

[spice mortar]

Instead of shaw add more healing or

[crystal cargo]

replace him with someone

who else do you have

[spice mortar]

Perfume

[quick pecan]

need the module to release so i can cook

[crystal cargo]

bring perfumer ig

[crystal cargo]

you likely dont need her

but in case ur medic dies

she is a backup

[polar crane]

gg

scrap the strat and go ling again

something like this

do not put any ranged op on the tile thorn is facing

the boss will just cook them

[spice mortar]

Chong is killing middle block does that matter

[crystal cargo]

green tile for defender

[spice mortar]

With his skill

[crystal cargo]

put thorns further back

[spice mortar]

Im scared using his skill will make the block fall over

[crystal cargo]

2 tiles back so hes next to the bottom ranged tile

[crystal cargo]

it wont fall on him

yes

its fine

[spice mortar]

Ok

Then i get the rest red and make 1 collapse the bottom so enemies go top right

[crystal cargo]

also put a defender so he can generate sp

dont collapse bottom

[spice mortar]

Collapse top?

[crystal cargo]

You dmg them until they glow broken orange and when you want to topple them you have to hit them from the direction opposite so below the bottom pillars up to push them where mandra spawns

so just wait

to use them

she spawns at around 350 something

[crystal cargo]

dont collapse them until boss arrives

[spice mortar]

Ok

[crystal cargo]

move ur medics

they will get lasered

fireballs will also hit them

also use exu on the tile near the holes facing right

[spice mortar]

So medics next to mud then

[polar crane]

then how do you deal with romba guy

[crystal cargo]

yeah around that area

put ur exu where i put my exu

then put thorns to the top of exu

then put silverash to the right of thorns

then put a medic to cover all of them

then put the rest of ur medics on chong

you dont really need SA here

[crystal cargo]

ok seems good

[polar crane]

thorn face up or down

he's useless there with mud blocking

[crystal cargo]

he can attack hoverers

[polar crane]

exu is enough

[crystal cargo]

if exu cant kill in time

his is e1 so i wasnt sure

[polar crane]

thorn will kill it regardless

even when facing up

[spice mortar]

Ill face him down then

[polar crane]

+silverash

[crystal cargo]

down works

place him one tile to the right though

if ur gonna face him down

[polar crane]

I rather face up tbh

[spice mortar]

I wanna keep a spot open for gravel to knock pillars so silverash wont fit

[spice mortar]

How will he kill hovers facing up?

[polar crane]

he have 3 tile to hit them

[spice mortar]

Ok

[polar crane]

it on their way to the blue box anyway

invisible enemy spawn at bottom so

thorn low value facing down

[crystal cargo]

ok

face up then

i didnt use thorns so i have no idea

[crystal cargo]

seems fine

you shouldnt really need him anyways

[spice mortar]

Chongyue is so op

[pallid veldt]

yeah he lowkey is

[crystal cargo]

if he gets time to charge

bro somehow takes longer than thorns

[spice mortar]

...

Im gonna have to replace perfumer

I think

Or instead of putting exu below thorns can i place exu above thorns facing down?

I think that would be brtter

Bc thorns will kill top archers before they can kill exu

Probably

[crystal cargo]

so you did need thorns facing down

yeah exu above thorns is fine

[quick pecan]

another succumbs to my chong propaganda

[crystal cargo]

[quick pecan]

9dp chong so based

[spice mortar]

So face thorns down instead of up?

[quick pecan]

literally cheaper than my elysium (p5 ely cringe)

[crystal cargo]

if exu cant handle them yes

[spice mortar]

I think it would be better instead of thorns facing down to keep him up and just have sa murder them

Cuz its only the last flier wave that gets mr

Me

Unless theres more after 350

[crystal cargo]

i dont remember

[spice mortar]

Ill find out ig

[quick pecan]

do you have another anti air

or a stunner

[spice mortar]

And i only knock pillar on boss when he flies right

[spice mortar]

Click i guess?

[crystal cargo]

well you can do it phase 1

but its just a damage reduction

phase 2 is when boss flies

you have enough pillars to knock 4 times though

so you can just do that

[spice mortar]

So this for the fliers for now

Ill be placing mud when gravels done

[crystal cargo]

ok

[spice mortar]

And i have enough points to last me

Shes not needed now anyway

Mud died lol

I need sa's reveal ig

[crystal cargo]

suprising

i airdropped mud after everyone got wiped at the end

[spice mortar]

Thorns omfg

Dumbass is targeting the big guy instead of the flier

I need to replace ros with someone

That can deal with this

And at the same time not die to the archers that spawn at the same timr

Kroos maybe

As backup

[frozen cedar]

Do you want assistance or just malding publicly?

[spice mortar]

I've been getting assistance but that thorns comment was mald

The tanks draw aggro and they appear right as another squad of archers and fliers

So its either thorns facing down or better sa management

[crystal cargo]

if exu is dying use more healers or something

or point thorns down/right

[spice mortar]

Dont have more healers

[deft badger]

who did u borrow?

move chong more to the left thorns and chon will melt everything that comes closer u do need 2 healers for that map

place mlynar where chong is to take balls and give him a healer

[spice mortar]

Dont have mlynar and chong is borrowed

Anyway my dumbass leaked again on 374 and instead of closing app i retreated bc brain on autopilot

Im gonna try thorns facing down

See if i die

[deft badger]

top is kinder more a problem then bot

those shooters do kinder a lot of dmg

mlynar would be a better pick anyway then chong

chong doesn't hit air 😄

[spice mortar]

Chong doesnt need to hit air

[quick pecan]

top right doesn’t need air

at all

the only hovering is mandra and you can just pillar her

i don’t even think the issue is damage

it’s targetting priority / hovers bottom left

[winter reef]

I just came back to the game after a break I was wondering if anyone could give me a team just I'm general since idk who is meta exactly

[quick pecan]

also if you move chong to the left the aoe burn damage will just kill your healers

[deft badger]

i wouldn't pick chong anyway, but u do u..

[spice mortar]

Chong is literally soloing right

[deft badger]

the point i try to make is that u don't need him to do that...
u can cover that with one of the ops u own and take a other one that is going to make dealing with balls easier and just killing that boss

[spice mortar]

Which one of my ops is gonna solo right...

Anyway trying this

[deft badger]

show me the ops u have pls

[spice mortar]

Having exu be covered by both whisperrain and perfumer

• like a e1 blazr

Blaze

[deft badger]

one sec i am going to try it with thorns sa and mlynar

[spice mortar]

Finally

Thorns down was the play

Thanks for all the help

[deft badger]

my 4 oping this s- right now xD

[spice mortar]

Ur not working with e1s

[deft badger]

ur thorns sa is e2 xD

[spice mortar]

Yeah but they werent the problem

My other units are too weak to be reliable

Perfumer died 3 times same as exu and kroos

[deft badger]

its 6 op actually 2 healers, mud, mlynar, thorns, SA

but i am at 300 now i might even die 😄

i don't trust thorns and sa killing all of those guys when they crash

-1 wasn't looking but it did work out, anyway good that we play a game where u can bring what ever and still make it at the end of the day xD

[high shadow]

so i know surtr is regarded as kind of goated, but does she not suffer the same issues as Ifrit but shorter range?

[surreal star]

what issues exactly?

[high shadow]

One wide 4 long feels like depending on the stage it’s limited use

[surreal star]

its not really an issue since surtr is melee

[pallid veldt]

yeah

also lot of people use her to kill boss

so you only need to hit 1 target

[hot hinge]

So uh
How do I even clear HE8

I've literally stopped every boulder from hitting them
What now

[high shadow]

Gotcha gotcha

[surreal star]

do you have like ines/mostima by any chance

[hot hinge]

Both

[surreal star]

in your clear

[hot hinge]

Wait

[surreal star]

that's probably why

the slow messes with the civs/boss

[hot hinge]

I don't deploy ines in their path I'm pretty sure

But I can try while keeping that in mind

[surreal star]

how about mos?

she's global

[hot hinge]

Wasn't using her, misunderstood

[tidal sedge]

Don't forget Ines slow applies to her shadow sentry too

[surreal star]

[tidal sedge]

Chalter s3 slow also affects them if you're using her

[hot hinge]

Here's the trust farmy team I was using

[hot hinge]

And then I kept failing at stupid points due to sleepiness
Weee

[shrewd hinge]

how's saileach for u?

is the later start a problem? thinking of using her s2 and letting her stay on field at some points

[turbid badge]

forgot those things were not aerial

[gentle finch]

nice Pallas bro

[turbid badge]

shes sitting so fast shes getting a rxtra target

[spice mortar]

How do you go about beating this stage

[foggy grove]

pozy shred phantom

else you have to cope with phantom dodge

he lost dodge when blocked but spawning his clone

[spice mortar]

I dont have pozy unfortunately

[cyan gorge]

Bait the teleport then burst

may have to repeat 2-3 times

it's ideal to do it asap cause once the block on top left breaks the stage gets much harder without life points to spare

or just, borrow Pozy so she kills him as he spawns

[tropic valve]

as others have said, you either use anti-dodge (Schwarz, Pozy, Fartooth), or bait his teleport so he can be blocked for 15 sec without dodge, or use bind/slow and brute force

[crystal cargo]

do you have mlynar?

mlynar makes him so easy

and yeah schwarz pozy can also burst him

[spice mortar]

Nope

[foggy grove]

you can borrow pozy/scwarz at start,they are stable start
or do what cirn said

[crystal cargo]

the mlynar strategy is more reliable but the left block has to be broken

well just use both

[foggy grove]

he doesn't have mlynar and mlynar start is mega cringe

[crystal cargo]

fair

i like letting boss walk through first block then sandwiching it

then activate mlynar skill

if boss doesnt die you just need to activate it again and win

although you have to leak the sides

[dry night]

so like

can i just?

place a plank on the top one

then the boulder destroys the top left one

[vernal lion]

yes, and you also care about the civi too, if you forgot to spend 20 dp

btw most enemies from this stage just jump out from nowhere

[spice mortar]

Place plank bottom too, civi doesnt die from 1 wave of boulders

Less enemies

[scarlet ledge]

@vernal lion finally done alt
i can chill

[vernal lion]

I got my Aurora from shop too 🥹

[scarlet ledge]

pog

top lisky sp feeding pallas s3 is funni

[jovial nest]

Finally. To those who missed first LE run and got annoyed by Rest Avenue

time for your revenge

Jan 5

[dry night]

damn no wonder why it looked too easy

[hot hinge]

Rn I've been letting her stick around on the map with s1 for most of the mission
This stuff needs a lot of dp

[tidal sedge]

Nooooo. LE rerun

I've no primes for farming

[jovial nest]

and here i am saving pots the moment i hit 100 RMAs

[foggy grove]

grindstone farm

maybe i'll save sanity potion

[deft badger]

was it eben texas reed or eben reed texas?

[foggy grove]

what

[deft badger]

in which order did they get released

[turbid badge]

?

eben first

eben Texas than we had reed alt

Ez to remember cuz

YOU DIDNT ANY ALTER REWARDS for reedb

[foggy grove]

all i remember is reed before limited since some people skipped her

[turbid badge]

lol

[foggy grove]

i skipped her for cy
other people for yato or something

[turbid badge]

ou right

reed after texas

just checked the banner list

you skipped reed

[deft badger]

for some reason i thought there is like a little time gap between them, actually between eben and texas there are months and months xD

[turbid badge]

mlynar was b4 texas

[deft badger]

saw it right now xD

[foggy grove]

ye eben is like super old

[quick pecan]

skipping reedic is crazy

she giga cracked

[tall cairn]

Eben was before gavialter.

[deft badger]

even gavi i thought gavi was before eben lol

[turbid badge]

i still pulled eben tho

lost

[foggy grove]

hey i need my dragon and i have like barely enough

[quick pecan]

i guess it makes sense chong is limited

i pulled reedic then max pot chong

9dp guard feels good

[deft badger]

i came back in to the game when reed got released i don't know why i didn't pull her... was trusting some dude on youtube who did say she is trash

now i value reed over chong lol

[quick pecan]

gotta be a special type of cope to call her trash

[foggy grove]

that yt is on cracks

[deft badger]

its more like texas yato mlynar reed for the past year ignor the rest

[quick pecan]

outdamaging casters

while healing

and debuffing 20% atk

with 30% arts fragile

too dank

[foggy grove]

i have zero regrets tho

[quick pecan]

chong is still strong

but you have to work for brain off a bit

[deft badger]

chong is to much of a pain to use

[quick pecan]

reedic s2 cycle + damage + utility is like…

this is an operator of all time

[deft badger]

there are to many conditions to be met for him to work

[quick pecan]

he’s fine for most maps

[turbid badge]

Reedic is a manstee

[foggy grove]

what

what condition,just press skill 5 times but i guess that's too much

[quick pecan]

ppl overstate him leaking too

[foggy grove]

ppl want blaze kinda ops

[quick pecan]

the comfort of thorns and blaze doesn’t really justify the loss in damage tbh

[deft badger]

well thats what u see and i see, a op i have to charge 5 times, one that is easy to die, can't deal with tanky adds early, then if i place him in a place to kill some squishies then the hell did i bring him for, he needs a baby sitter

the place i place him there has to be a mix of squishies early on so that he can stuck, if they are to tanky he can't kill them and will die or leak, needs to be healed lets just say it like that
then i have other ops that can do that without all the s- above

[quick pecan]

honestly

when the content gets difficult

[tall cairn]

Tbf if you pulled CY for a second Mountain kind of laneholder, you’d be pretty disappointed.

[quick pecan]

most of the other laneholders need healing as well

[tall cairn]

But I don’t see anything wrong with CY.

Just takes a little more effort.

[quick pecan]

the only difference now is do you want healing with mid damage or healing with high damage

i would only say in terms of damage gavialt and exalter are better

and exalter can self sustain

[foggy grove]

early tanky ads is like rare even other laneholder will struggle

at that point you can just open with something else or heli

[quick pecan]

chong saria feels nice on pretty much every map

[deft badger]

thats the main problem i do have with that dude...

[tidal sedge]

That's normal guard def

[foggy grove]

lol

[turbid badge]

[deft badger]

not really from all the guards i own he has the lowest def

like 20-50 more def would be nice

[tidal sedge]

That's nothing

[deft badger]

amiya has higher def! XD

[tidal sedge]

Arts fighter have slightly above average def among guards

What makes other guards more survivable is talents or skills that improve it. 50 def means nothing

[gray stone]

Chongus' main defense comes from the fact that he melts everything

kinda folds against elites but just heal

[quick pecan]

he can hide behind saria and murder the elite while she tanks it

his dual lane shenanigans are also pretty cool

[deft badger]

that elite part i didn't have any problems when it comes to that, when that dude stacks up he does dmg

btw aoe dmg...

aoe, can hit multy targets that stand at the same place

i guess that counts as aoe xD

[turbid badge]

Chongus skalter saria

is So op

[outer niche]

who should i replace or level up? this is 6-16

aka frostnova rng

trying to follow this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STjm1ZrnFig&t=1s&ab_channel=ILoveAmiya

[tidal sedge]

If you've Gravel, she's good holding FN at a more rapid cycle than just Mel

[outer niche]

is texas alt suffce?

[tidal sedge]

Oh wait you have an e2

[outer niche]

only ash

[tidal sedge]

If you don't want to do the stall strat like ILA does, you could opt for a borrow and just spawnkill her

I can explain the stall strat too if that's what you're inclined to do

[outer niche]

yes

[tidal sedge]

ILA plays black ice slots since they're limited to 3*s, but adding Gravel and healers/bodies makes it more reliable outside of such restrictions

The idea is to exploit her wait spots. You want to stall her from reaching them as much as you can so your other ops can clean out all the mobs and then you've your whole team to deal with FN.

When she reaches a wait spot, stop blocking her as that's wasteful use of your bodies as she's not moving anyways. Of course do start blocking her again when she resumes movement

One advantage Gravel has is she's cheap enough to block FN before she reaches her first wait spot at top right, provided that play doesn't hurt your opening elsewhere

Once all other mobs are dead, use your ranged ops to dps her and use bodies to keep her at the tip of their range.

[outer niche]

so from what im getting is this:

• prevent her from going to her wait spots and stall her for a bit and dont block her when she's at her wait spot
• use gravel and or texas alter

[tidal sedge]

Pretty much, though Gravel alone won't suffice. I prefer to cycle Gravel and Mel, a third body would probably be nice if you're not confident or in case you make mistakes.

[outer niche]

i guess i'll bring texas alt along

[gleaming lodge]

Everyone ?!
You have far better units than those 3*, it's time for you to invest into them and stop carbon-copying guides to clear stages
If you're scared to mess up, simply replace your 3* by higher rarity operators of the same subclass

[craggy turret]

My frostnova clear had lee cornerstone

[outer niche]

actually i do have better units, but the problem i have is i have to be quick with taking out frostnova and the enemies

[gleaming lodge]

Yes ?

And your better units are going to be better at everything

Including dealing more damage

Raise all of your 6* and some 5*

Which ones do you have actually

Also, Exu S3 (borrow) is the best way to deal with FrostNova

[outer niche]

exusiai, silverash, lappland, liskarm, saria

problem is they're not fully tokened (idk the term) or are at the e2 level

[foggy grove]

he has e2 ash

[gleaming lodge]

Tokened, like potential ?
The little star thing ?
That's mostly irrelevant don't worry about it
All of these operators you listed are very strong, they should be E1 max at least, and they can replace many of your 3* to give you an easier time

[gleaming lodge]

Ash S2 one-cycles FNF ?

[foggy grove]

haven't tried but even krooster one cycle phase 1 so she should be

[outer niche]

here are my top operators

[gleaming lodge]

Pretty sure FNF is stun immune so no

[gleaming lodge]

[glass monolith]

Frostnova has less DEF that drones in that chapter so who cares if she is stun immune, you just gun her down

[gleaming lodge]

Please promise me never to use Beagle again

[foggy grove]

ye she is like paper

[outer niche]

she really that bad, is she

[gleaming lodge]

It matters because Ash S2 deals 0 dmg without stun

So Exu borrow would be good

[glass monolith]

Kroos alter S2. Pozy S2. Literally anything because you stall Frostnova with Gravels on same spot until ChatGTP tells her to ban all melee tiles around her

[gleaming lodge]

Well
Let's just consider this
The units you are using are almost free
6* are rare
You can pay to increase your odds of getting 6*
Therefore 6* are certainly much stronger than lower rarities.

[gleaming lodge]

that's why Exu is good, because she one-cycles her
Many other ops probably do it now, but definitely not Ash S2

[foggy grove]

ash s2 is so bad without stun but yeah you can gravel

[gleaming lodge]

And then she gets iced

[foggy grove]

if you want to borrow pozy or exu trivialize it ye

[gleaming lodge]

You need to kill FNF quickly
So borrow Exu S3 or whatever works and let's stop this pointless debate

@outer niche are you seeing any progress with the stage ?

If you need more specific advice don't hesitate

[outer niche]

rng keeps kicking my ass

[glass monolith]

Get tile banned gravel

[outer niche]

and im still strat-ing which ops to put in though im going for 5 and 6 stars

[gleaming lodge]

That happens yeah
FrostNova shouldn't deploy her ice more than twice
If their locations kill your run, you're legally allowed to restart until it works

[outer niche]

at this point, i may replace lava cuz she's expensive af

but she and gitano are my only aoe casters

but gitano is more expensive

[gleaming lodge]

Replace them with the subclass
Beagle -> Hoshi
Cardigan -> Saria
Lava -> Skyfire
...

Not sure if you really need an AoE caster
Surtr S2 should cover that on one lane

[outer niche]

what does s2 mean again

skill 2?

[gleaming lodge]

By the way
Saria's default skill should be S1, it's much better
In this particular stage though, S2 is pretty funny so you can use it

[gleaming lodge]

Yes

[outer niche]

ah

im using saria's s2 since it's auto

[gleaming lodge]

E2 = elite 2
S2M3 = skill 2 mastery 3 (you can do that in the base -> training room (bottom right))

[gleaming lodge]

Her S1 is also auto and basically makes her and one ally next to her immortal
And ideally only 2 melee ops ever take damage

But her with the boss's AoE, S2 is better yeah

[outer niche]

im gonna have to level up my 6 star ops more lol

[gleaming lodge]

Yes

You wasted a bit of resources into those 3* but it's ok

[outer niche]

welp, i got it

because i had to bring a support unit

[scarlet fulcrum]

Tactical leak based

[outer niche]

i regret not headhunting for muelsyse

shoulda gotten her instead of waiting for the r6 collab

[scarlet fulcrum]

U did the right thing tbh, also aimbetter banner instead like current banner exalter rn

[lapis hornet]

ya muel a tech option at best not rly the most straight forward rarity abuse unit

[glass heart]

is gnosis + aurora a viable combination? or does it only sound good in theory

[vernal lion]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBkCtweB5sY&ab_channel=Pengod

[glass monolith]

Great coded game with no questionable design choices, now give me LE rerun so i desync on boss

[vernal lion]

yes, ft. Ptilo

[glass heart]

ty! prob have to e2 all three to be viable?

[vernal lion]

yea

Ptilo because of her sp talent

so it's very simple,
Gnosis auto attack (AA) > Gnosis s2 > Aurora s2 attack

then Aurora s2 will waste 1 of s2 attack to not-yet-frozen enemy, but you can Gnosis s2 again so she can use s2 attack on frozen enemy

and just repeat like above, Gnosis AA > Gnosis s2 > Aurora s2 AA

[glass heart]

thanks ill try that

[signal flicker]

Is mizuki food?

[vernal lion]

*good

I think he's kinda fine with his dmg output

[glass monolith]

If enemy doesn't fly and map is not defend 4 lanes in opposites corners enemy are screwed

[vernal lion]

but I've not answered yet

[foggy grove]

[glass monolith]

You can still answer, maybe they are looking for several points of view (or did smartest discord move and blocked me in advance)

[jovial nest]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/814537437170499584/1192058985675751484/image.png?ex=65a7b271&is=65953d71&hm=ff54c855a2accdc2b9eaeff75fb0ce28e4d1e9356555f80dc5f4adc104307d79&

Finally, I can stop babysitting TLK.

[gilded fjord]

whats the best operator for this stage ?

[strange fable]

Shifters are good here

Weedy and Gladiia are both good picks to shift the jellyfish either away or towards izumik

[signal flicker]

M

[serene umbra]

I did my best for Lugmen Downtown

Used Thorns as a support unit

[polar crane]

just force close the game if you fail/leak

it refund all your sanity

[turbid badge]

waow 666 atk spuria

woops i messed up by gettig more trust

[quick pecan]

i still need to level her

working on greyy alt rn though

[turbid badge]

wtf

grey simp nit naxed yet

[quick pecan]

i kept putting him off

he is almost max trust though

told myself need flinger module or it’s joever

there’s so many 5* sniper knights clears with him

and like it’s always 2-4 ops

https://youtu.be/9CYr4su7Y1U?si=8X3zj5Rs-5uHCIjB

[turbid badge]

forewatch eating as always

[vernal lion]

can you actually leak this boss bruh

doesn't the boss just kill itself in phase 3 lmao

[glass monolith]

Heal enemy, NOW

[gleaming lodge]

It doesn't move anyways

[vernal lion]

I like how they still give the boss a movement path

[gleaming lodge]

oh wait they did ?

that's funny

[deft badger]

mountain, who after? 😄

how good is mumu actually if i use her as range~?

[quick pecan]

would probably e2 shamare

debuff good

[deft badger]

i know planing to do anyway... but wanna do couple more six stars when i have the lmd and xp

[turbid badge]

hexer module is -atk for enemies in range? does it affect invul enemies

[deft badger]

invulnerable?

[quick pecan]

on attack

[tidal sedge]

No. It requires them to hit them

[quick pecan]

not in range

[turbid badge]

oh thats dumb

[quick pecan]

well gnosis eats

[turbid badge]

yeah

[tidal sedge]

It likely wouldn't work regardless.

[deft badger]

doesn't it say in range?

[quick pecan]

shamare well most ppl just put her in a corner of the map lmfaoo

[deft badger]

the module

[turbid badge]

i probably got mixed the module base w a is relic lmao

yeah

[deft badger]

don't know why i thought that it does say in range 😄

nvm

[turbid badge]

my pram can attack 2 targets Op

[deft badger]

how much DR does stainless give again?

[glass monolith]

20% per S3 turret to tile behind them

[turbid badge]

its physical btw

[glass monolith]

So 36% if stacked on same op

and teta is right too, that is physical dr

[deft badger]

if u master it does it give more?

[glass monolith]

Nope

Mastery give better scaling to turret skill on top of stainless self buff if i recall right

[deft badger]

i think the turret is totally useless actually, DR and SP is nice

dmg is just mehhh

it doesn't apply the ops dmg to the turret am i right?

it has it own stats

[glass monolith]

it is like uh... fuck i don't know

350% stainless ATK to main target on M3?

[deft badger]

i think it doesn't

chong would nuke them like from much much far away if it would apply his atk to the turret dmg

[glass monolith]

It's own stats don't matter outside your deadayaya starting attacking it during first phase of H11 boss because he got damn outscale their def

It took me like 3 minutes to realize Ambriel S2 attacks turret instead boss

[ornate pond]

doing annil 3 on cn rn, would it be better to bring silence or use purestream's burst healing

[polar crane]

silence

[ornate pond]

wouldnt it be better to let purestream sit on the back tiles and heal the front with extra healing from lancet?

[gleaming lodge]

huh

that's a pretty bad use of your front ranged tiles

bring an emergency defender if you don't know what to do with your last slot

then if one of your defenders gets stunned when they are blocking, replace them with that emergency defender
rinse and repeat until the crushers are gone

[abstract zenith]

I used purestream when I didn't have aoe healers yet. Worked pretty well

[deft badger]

if u bring thorns to clap all of them it doesn't matter that much, but AOE heal on top ST heal on bot

[gleaming lodge]

purestream isn't bad

[ornate pond]

maybe im misremembering since i havent played annil 3 for like over 2 years but doesnt crusher go to top lane?

[gleaming lodge]

but bringing Lancet and putting it on that tile isn't great

[gleaming lodge]

crushers go to all lane

and a lot in the two middle

[ornate pond]

i thought they went mid and top

ok yea

like this was what i was planning on bringing (ignore the levels, im gonna e2 thorns and e1 lvl 30 everyone once the event in 5 day hits)

the only part was that i didnt know who to replace for purestream

im prob gonna do ifrit borrow

for debuff

[quick pecan]

bassline gigachad

[ornate pond]

they arent even on the right skills yet just threw smth togeter

[deft badger]

don't have to, putting one more range in to the team is going to make it harder

2 snipers, 2 healers, thorns, 3 tanks or 2 tanks and a good melee, 1 melee doeasn't matter which for top to place him infront ur sniper

[ornate pond]

dont have to what

[deft badger]

ifrit..

[ornate pond]

i'd basically die to drone waves then...

[deft badger]

u have to place 4 melee ops to block the lanes, 5th if u have a low team for top infront the sniper so that the drone at 300 hits the melee op and not ur sniper or the sniper dies and ur healer

if u bring one more range u don't have a place for that 5th melee

at 350 u remove the tank on top and place him back after the crusher passes

thorns is in the 2nd lande from below the top crusher is going to crash in to thorns he is killing him and the rest... u don't need ifrit

[ornate pond]

i mean this was what i was thinking

without ifrit and her res shred its gonna make it a pain in the ass to hold top

ig i could like borrow mlynar

and place him on the tile beside plat

or just tex alt frd

[gleaming lodge]

nah Ifrit strat is great

why is Thorns one tile back though ?

let him benefit from Ifrit

[ornate pond]

oh thats a misplacement

oops

[gleaming lodge]

and I would face Lapp to the right

[ornate pond]

besides bas yea