strategy

[turbid badge]

he make it easy

so nomointain

[spark sinew]

why are you using yato then

[scarlet ledge]

ex 7 cm done for second time... @turbid badge

fun using rosmon

[scarlet fulcrum]

Funny stages where there is only 1 blue box but ur focus on other shits

[scarlet ledge]

zooki s3 gaming

fucking disables mini boss

[real jacinth]

This event is genuinely my least favorite

These citizens are so fucking stupid

Maybe I'm the stupid one because I don't like having to track citizens that die whether you do something or not

But the worst part?

The dp draining freak enemies

It's so annoying

Someone at hypogrph was like damn what would be really stupid and annoying

And the intern was like "what if you can't deply operators, wouldn't that be funny"

And then it just got worse from there

"make the enemies apply bleed"

"buff them for no reason"

"tack on some autistic citizens"

[vernal lion]

that's good
that shows how you can manage the situation, unless you accept with 2 star result

[real jacinth]

"even better, dump holes on the map that they can fall into unless you expend dp to patch them. And oh, those patches can be destroyed by the falling rocks we added for no reason. The rocks also have aoe explosions LMAO and kill citizens when they roll over them"

[glass monolith]

Also 20 drones from not drone red box (Do they even recall they have "drone red box"?).
And half of damn stage spawning outside red boxes giving you no time to react if you didn't knew they come from there

[real jacinth]

Death to civvies

[vernal lion]

it's realistic yea

rock rolls over human, and break into pieces of sharp stone

[spark sinew]

shit spawning from not red boxes is ew

[real jacinth]

And even better the levels get designed so that you now have to micro manage the citizens with friggin gates

I've always enjoyed cattle farming sims

Oh also the gates cost dp did I mention

Oh you don't want to citizens to bleed to death, which they do periodically whether there's enemies nearby or not?

Spend TWENTY DP

[foggy grove]

plank with mines is undestroyable

[real jacinth]

To temporarily calm them

[foggy grove]

[vernal lion]

I kinda enjoy the event
it's enough challenge for me

[real jacinth]

What

[vernal lion]

yes

[foggy grove]

[glass monolith]

I don't even recall last time i had "civilian unrest up from enemy passing" to trigger

[spark sinew]

won't help you much but yes

[real jacinth]

I'm sorry but literally every other event mogs this one

That includes the gelato stop one

[spark sinew]

eyja soon

[vernal lion]

this event is just ch8 ft. ch12

[real jacinth]

There's more of this crap?

[foggy grove]

it's pretty chill event for me

[real jacinth]

I was literally gnashing my teeth

The boss battle is massively disappointing

[foggy grove]

ya ex8 cm is like snooze

[real jacinth]

I don't even get to kill him

[spark sinew]

i dislike how you can lose attention for 1 second and get -1 actually happened on ex8 with that civi falling into hole

[foggy grove]

i was expecting he8 level of chaos

[real jacinth]

Exactly bruh

Loud buzzer sound

Like damn

They really are so stupid

[foggy grove]

that's kinda funny especially on cm since it's insta game over

[real jacinth]

I thought Ursus civvies were dumb

But these tards take the cake

Also I'm mad because I spent all my prime trying to get kalsit and got that furry merchant instead

Twice

I'm sitting on 1k green certs now

[foggy grove]

prolly shouldn't have pulled

just wait shop

[real jacinth]

[spark sinew]

25% is kinda ew

[real jacinth]

I'm gonna hurt you

[real jacinth]

No kidding

[spark sinew]

if you have surtr, consider yourself lucky it's not a dupe

[real jacinth]

I have two surturrs

I'm not gonna use her

[vernal lion]

of yea this one

[real jacinth]

What's that

Looks like fun

[spark sinew]

isn't that very few

[vernal lion]

no it's not fun

[spark sinew]

like 2 HH permits from t2 low

[real jacinth]

If you're trying to get the 3rd stage of the shop yeah

I already bought the permits

[spark sinew]

even for T2

[glass monolith]

Ho,ho, you hit my health gate at same time when i disabled all ovens on map, enjoy eating 15k damage in face

[vernal lion]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/676880844367069234/1181557224888352899/Iceberg_drop.gif?ex=659d2d6a&is=658ab86a&hm=276c8eaf67af6cfe977dc86918d4350786dd1127a0348d32afe4480f0de6dbaf&

[real jacinth]

This looks like complete aids

Just lumen it lmao

[glass monolith]

Lumen is frozen too

[real jacinth]

Is it worse than break the ice

[polar crane]

lumen not gonna save you

[real jacinth]

It looks worse than break the ice

[spark sinew]

break the ice was easy af wasn't it

[real jacinth]

Yeah I just cleared it yesterday

[polar crane]

it soft tile ban

[real jacinth]

On a whim

[spark sinew]

the only issue was for new players without invis reveal and damage

[real jacinth]

My beautiful ines

Shall shit on degenbrrcher

[spark sinew]

abusing new ops

back in muh days

[polar crane]

we use chalter and silverash

[vernal lion]

oh yea, enemies in this event are cancer too

[spark sinew]

chalter and ntrk but yes

[real jacinth]

3 star op only players

[glass monolith]

Let's be honest, THIS is how Break the Ice should have been because by their own lore that shit had show storm because their own deity was unhappy or something and was trying to smoke them out

[real jacinth]

I used SA and ntrk

[polar crane]

which one

[spark sinew]

but they don't have to know

[real jacinth]

I love miss kjera

[vernal lion]

sniper with arts dmg,
sniper with invis
dude with ball nuke,
dude with ice-flamethrower,
caster with aoe dmg,
defender with massive def up

[real jacinth]

Im waiting for bti to roll around again so I can pick up that last pot stack

[real jacinth]

How bad can invis sniper really be

None of those enemies sound like an issue except for ice flamethrower

[glass monolith]

Yo remember CC8?

[real jacinth]

Everyone else I summon penancd

[real jacinth]

Oh

So not like

Cerulean arbor sniper huh

[glass monolith]

I don't know how bad those are, but don't forget we had cancer + invis before

[real jacinth]

"this enemy feels underpowered (it's not) . What's an easy way to make every player want to throw themselves off a building?"

Weirdest feeling to run out of training records before lmd

[polar crane]

sound like defektive base

[real jacinth]

It's just standard sniper plus invis

[real jacinth]

You don't understand

I blast the lmd operation on repeat

[spark sinew]

every good base except 153 variants produces way more lmd now

than exp

and bad bases (3 tps) produce even more

[real jacinth]

Guh?

How much do the ops on the base matter

[glass monolith]

Well if you don't have 90% or some Rosmontis exodia you screwed?

[real jacinth]

All I care about is that exusai Texas and lappland are in the same room together

[spark sinew]

ops matter, but also base itself matters

[real jacinth]

Who

[spark sinew]

oh no...

[real jacinth]

I got it fully unlocked

Upgraded?

[scarlet ledge]

gonna do cm later

[real jacinth]

Not so much

[scarlet ledge]

no sanity

[real jacinth]

I'm busy with other stuff

[scarlet ledge]

pro

naga

[vernal lion]

lol

[real jacinth]

Oh also I

Maxed out ntrk and her module

Hooray

Plus her s3

Oh Jah she shall vaporize my enemies

[spark sinew]

[scarlet ledge]

i dont want to do my alt acc ex stages

uwaaah

[polar crane]

can you fix them?

[scarlet ledge]

UWAAAAH

[real jacinth]

Ignoring defense is so funny

[vernal lion]

@scarlet ledge

[scarlet ledge]

kiss

[vernal lion]

ye

[spark sinew]

can you?

[scarlet ledge]

@vernal lion look at this bs

[polar crane]

too lazy, im playing nikke

[glass monolith]

Waiting for 61 hp leak both strategy

[real jacinth]

That is the most lowbrow game in existence bruh

[scarlet ledge]

@vernal lion end boss have alternate too...

[real jacinth]

Second only to like

[scarlet ledge]

awesome

[vernal lion]

yea

even cancer

[polar crane]

did you play it?

[spark sinew]

i'm doing some dumb shit in IS but idk what's the better skadi mod
even in AH it's just redeploy right

[polar crane]

dont judge book by it cover

[scarlet ledge]

so pro

[real jacinth]

Wth is going on

[polar crane]

lore is awesome and music is

[spark sinew]

i'm afraid i will raise one and she's gonna get a third lol

[real jacinth]

I've seen the ads

I know where the appeal lies

[real jacinth]

1 percent

Geez

[glass monolith]

uh.... IS-4 has Binding of Isaac like item to reset your entire run but carry over ALL resources/relics? How the f you get that much lifes?

[polar crane]

you dont have to play the game for that

[real jacinth]

For like 50 runs I didn't even realize cerulean arbor had the little

Numbers

[vernal lion]

I don't hate acid sniper, I only hate its special attack

fucking hurt af

[real jacinth]

Penance dunks on cannot it's so funny

The punchy surfers instant stack her

And kill themselves doing so

[polar crane]

look nice

[real jacinth]

Definitely the thing ever

[polar crane]

I see 4 elite in that images

[spark sinew]

map looks hard to deploy shit

also because of bosses nukes

[vernal lion]

@scarlet ledge I did her well

[spark sinew]

s1m3

[glass monolith]

Now you can't stall Kristen for 22 hours

[spark sinew]

it's ketsura

i legit don't know if dude is just always trolling

i hope he does

[scarlet ledge]

pog

[vernal lion]

wait for next month to get mod3

[jovial nest]

At least Ursus civs were fed and working. Abbey civs are malnourished and about to blow up (like the story in the event)

[vernal lion]

emotional damage

[jovial nest]

Lion King is also the caster to the Kheshig's melee fighter so his range is ridicc

[spark sinew]

they don't have the same range?

[jovial nest]

nope

[spark sinew]

hmm

[jovial nest]

if you deploy ops at lowest lane

Kheshig can't hit them

but Lion King can

[real jacinth]

Deserved

[vernal lion]

yellow attack has range of 2 tiles

[real jacinth]

The stupid must be exterminated

Not me though

I'm special

[jovial nest]

sure cracka....

[real jacinth]

[jovial nest]

hilariously enough with the screenshot

the Lazurites aren't even elite versions

HG knows how much those mofos are threats

[real jacinth]

Countable pixels

[vernal lion]

yea he can attack Myrtle from that tile

[jovial nest]

normal caster range

but

he hits way too hard

only 2 hits iirc

also is he arts?

[vernal lion]

2.5 tile is like 2 diagonal tiles from current tile

[vernal lion]

1000 arts dmg ye

both are terrified as well

[jovial nest]

they didn't bother adding the Tola mobs for the Kheshig. Useless gimmick when there's no darkness

haha

not even for flavor

[spark sinew]

oh...that explains a lot why noir feels weird

[vernal lion]

you can't stall red or yellow, red will murder you with his massive atk and aspd buff, while yellow will just dash every time you block him

[karmic glade]

The current best solution is to melt the left first, easy with ceobe, than just ethan the right one, because of the ASPD buff, he attack too often to walk, so you can stall for a really lone time

[vernal lion]

dude has the same thought with me bruh

[fallen silo]

hey all, does muelsyse's clone get the additional benefits if it copies an abyssal hunter buffed by other abyssal hunter teammates? Like the passive +x% hp/atk specter would get, will muelsyse's clone get the updated values? Base values? Will she get the updated values and then upgrade itself again because it now counts as an abyssal?

[spark sinew]

it won't upgrade itself
basically see the stats of operator before deploy

this is what mumu will copy

[vernal lion]

it's for clone only, and clone is a summon unit

just get all the summon relics in IS3

[karmic glade]

skadi's attack talent can, but ntrk's s2 can't, it is just all kinds of inconsistent

[glass monolith]

It won't have talents of copied operators, but i heard stuff like "Copy Abyssal hunter and Gladiia regen etc will work on it". SADLY CANT CONFIRM BECAUSE GAME GAVE ME ROSMONTIS INSTEAD

[karmic glade]

Even the same description it is inconsistent, silverash's +12% atk can, but gavial alter's +12% atk can't

[glass monolith]

Sir how on earth you coped:
Skadi - +% ATK/HP to Abyss hunters if in squad (Which should apply to AH stats when combat starts)
SA - +% SELF ATK
and Gavial atler - Gain self ATK/DEF, gain more based on amount of shit you block

Ah fuck it i go look for mumu frouind support

[spark sinew]

i can put mine on sup

[karmic glade]

yes, prts explains it, but the in game description still sucks

[glass monolith]

e2 60 SA - 717 ATK base, 789 in combat with talent. Clone got 710 ATK (90% of SA with self buff from talent)
e2 60 Galter - 754 ATK base, talent doesn't apply without deployment. Clone got 679 (90% of base). Galter got 829 ATK when deployed
e2 60 Skadi with module - 1122 ATK base, 1369 from talent in combat, Clone got 1232 (90% of biased)
e2 60 Specter - 761 ATK base, 928 from skadi talent, Clone got 836 (90%)

Morale of the story, Gavial is biased

Clone always got 90% of stats i see when i select operator in combat, just Gavial talent was only one among them which don't apply self stats without deployment

[fallen silo]

i just did some testing, unluckily the clone doesn't get the "abyssal hunter" state, so skalter doesn't get her passive talent with the "red eye" when near an abyssal, also gladiia doesn't regen clone's hp

also the buff doesn't double dip also because clone's not an abyssal hunter

[glass monolith]

rigged

[deft badger]

did u try to transform a clone in to AH

why did u even think that is going to work

[fallen silo]

hope

because being an abyssal hunter isn't a talent

[deft badger]

btw where is ur 😄

[fallen silo]

now i'm wondering how i could test if andreana's buff still applies

[fallen silo]

i'm not really interested in any of those flair or however they're called

because if the +%atk/hp works, if aspd is applied as a base increase at the start of the fight, it should be inherited by the clone

[deft badger]

didn't mention u ... i asked minus, he likes to abuse AH 🙂

[fallen silo]

ahh ahah sorry

[vernal lion]

Harvester Pluma skin when

[fallen silo]

imagine panicking like those whales, trying to run away but everytime they choose a way they know there's a better one but it's also the worst decision everytime

[random widget]

Naga

[vernal lion]

tks

[limpid siren]

np

[fallen silo]

seems like andreana's talent doesn't do anything to the clone copying gladiia

[vernal lion]

fun fact, you can SAVE this civi

so you have like 7.5 dp before he fall down

[spark sinew]

you can with ines and texas

people posted it both here and in #help iirc

[vernal lion]

Ines max pot?

[fallen silo]

imagine wanting to save them, i'd try to kill them all before 8dp

[vernal lion]

give me the link

[spark sinew]

why'd you need pot on ines

she costs 0 on s3

[vernal lion]

mb

but

do you mean the 3rd civi ?

[spark sinew]

bit later
or you can search images from "Red" here

[spark sinew]

hmm
you can save one of them, idr who that was
for 3 total in the end

[vernal lion]

do you need zima

[spark sinew]

oh you don't deploy anything with dp i believe

texas is for +2dp

ines for that slow on her knife

[vernal lion]

either you need bagpipe pot 5 or zima mod3

or texas full pot

[foggy grove]

you don't have max pot tex?

[vernal lion]

who do you think I am, a lucky guy?

[spark sinew]

.

[sly drift]

Why save them when I want them all perish instead

Worst civ ever

[vernal lion]

7.5 + 2 = 9.5

[fast basin]

i dont think u need bagpipe pot 5

lemme try smth

[spark sinew]

you're not baiting me to open the game

[vernal lion]

I 'm not

[spark sinew]

jesus there's a lot of "Red"

[vernal lion]

wait a second

ok, "pause deploy is good" moment

[spark sinew]

told you

[vernal lion]

but I don't use pause deploy

[spark sinew]

it's so good

i find it hard to not use it constantly

although sometimes you get weird shit

[rocky anvil]

Didn't pause deploy get patched or something like that? Or did they re-add it or someone found a new way to do it?

[spark sinew]

like I'm pretty sure some ops have longer "deploy" animation

it's back with current patch

[vernal lion]

I don't like pause deploy because desync will fuck it up

[spark sinew]

so if you deploy spot-krooster that way, spot is considered being deployed last

instead of krooster

[vernal lion]

I mean, outside of auto

[gray stone]

Readded

[vernal lion]

even I use pause deploy or not, it still makes me not focus to the game

[gray stone]

Imagine if it's patched immediately next patch

[vernal lion]

and have to remember to press Esc

[gray stone]

True

I only use it when really brain intensive stage

[spark sinew]

man that would suck

[rocky anvil]

Is it an emulator only trick or is it possible to do on mobile?

[gray stone]

So like none

[spark sinew]

it's possible on mobile but i think it's harder?

very easy on emu though

especially if you don't string together multiple deploys

[ornate pond]

hello dalaos

building squad around annilation 3 ahead of time... this should be okay right? other than like replacing courier with myrtle once i get her... im probably gonna swap out a healer with lancet-2 as well. i havent played that annihilation in a while so i have no idea what to watch out for

[gray stone]

Dog shit

[ornate pond]

[gray stone]

Purestream ew

I thought she doesn't exist

[spark sinew]

what?

[gray stone]

But that's just my luck

[spark sinew]

she's literally 40% gold

absolutely cracked

[ornate pond]

just recruitment lah

[gray stone]

Yeah but I haven't rolled her even once

[spark sinew]

also she's in recruit

[gray stone]

Shitty recruit luck

[spark sinew]

hard to believe

[ornate pond]

do u check tags

[rocky anvil]

Isn't she recruit only?

[ornate pond]

shes not rare

[gray stone]

She's only in Recruit

[ornate pond]

anyways help this cn newbie out here

[gray stone]

They give me the shittiest luck ever

[spark sinew]

should've raised 4* to e2

instead of e1 maxing thorns

[gray stone]

Bili or Mainland

[ornate pond]

mainland

[gray stone]

Die

[spark sinew]

anni 3 looks shitty with those i won't lie

[ornate pond]

excluding lvls

[spark sinew]

idt this 400 without actual effort

[gray stone]

@polar crane yo this dude can be friend with your ass

[ornate pond]

bc ill level them to like e1 40 or smth

[polar crane]

wut

[gray stone]

CN weo

[polar crane]

weo?

[ornate pond]

what would i die to?

just drone waves?

[gray stone]

Snipers are so shit

Find a Caper

[ornate pond]

i just borrow e2 exu for top lane

and bot lane thorns + some random shit go

[gray stone]

WHY ARE YOU BORROWING EXU

[ornate pond]

exu s3 kills elites and drones

[gray stone]

[ornate pond]

oh right

these days just mlynar

[gray stone]

That could have been an Ifrit/Mlynar/Chalter

[ornate pond]

hell... i wonder if reedic would be useful here

since cc + arts dmg for elites

[spark sinew]

i don't see how you clear crushers
also drones
also healing is shit

[polar crane]

I have no idea what the context is but ling

[spark sinew]

so you might fold to ballistae + 2 above threats

[ornate pond]

[spark sinew]

mlynar at e1 is cope af

ifrit works ig

[gray stone]

You play in main land sv right?

[spark sinew]

but healers are weak

[ornate pond]

oh im gonna e2 thorns before attempting this

like im not doing it rn

im just forming squad

to lvl up

[spark sinew]

oh you should be fine

[polar crane]

official ya

[ornate pond]

like ima go in with everyone raised to atleast like e1 lvl 30

[polar crane]

you probably dont want me, I can only offer 5 stae

[spark sinew]

3 healers might be a bit too much

[gray stone]

Owl plays in main land too so go friend them idk

[ornate pond]

yow which is why i was gonna replace one of them with lancet

so extra healing without deployment limit

[gray stone]

More clue slave and finding friends in CN kinda hard

[spark sinew]

maybe add gravel

[ornate pond]

i got some dalaos to borrow

[gray stone]

Don't add Gravel

[spark sinew]

although idk, does thorns outrange drone wave?

[gray stone]

You need someone with Exalter

[spark sinew]

you should have e1 1 gravel anyway

[ornate pond]

already ahead of u

[gray stone]

Nice

Good drug

Man is very stronk

[spark sinew]

i'm very surprised that #help accepted exalter shilling tbh

[gray stone]

And he self sustain so your shitty medics won't be an issue

[spark sinew]

although i feel it's just because typhon is delayed

then the brainrot will begin again

[gray stone]

We kinda bullied the guy that shill Typhon out of help lmao

By we I mean I

[ornate pond]

tbh if i play cm + story enough

[foggy grove]

lmao

[ornate pond]

i can maybe rack up enough pulls to try and go for reedic

cause i already have like 22 pulls dumped on her

[spark sinew]

who was the typhon shiller

[polar crane]

I shill typhon

[spark sinew]

i mean i still see a couple of them

[gray stone]

Die

[foggy grove]

i shill you

[spark sinew]

i can tell by your pfp

[polar crane]

she kinda shit before module

[gray stone]

Yeah

[polar crane]

it not typhon wtfart your eeyes

[spark sinew]

typhon shares...similarities that all your pfps share

[ivory nimbus]

So, I just got Insider, raise or no?

[gray stone]

No

[spark sinew]

obviously she's not as extreme

[foggy grove]

idk are you new

[ornate pond]

hes okay for beginners but generally no

wait for annil 3 shaw holds bottom lane quite well iirc right?

[gray stone]

E1 Shaw

[ornate pond]

well yea ofc

[gray stone]

I used Virtuosa for my anni3 run

She kinda cleared

[ornate pond]

let me spawn virtuosa

outta the sky

[limpid siren]

arturia meta??

[gray stone]

Nah she's niche (affectionate)

[polar crane]

10k aoe true damage my beloved

[gray stone]

Typhon is a banger to clear everything on the top half so

[ornate pond]

wait just making sure uhh

is thjere any upcoming event

[limpid siren]

arturia really is 2023's franka

[ornate pond]

in cn

[gray stone]

Bunny

[ornate pond]

if there is ill just grab the 500lk lmd and then raise everyone

[polar crane]

side story next year

[ornate pond]

dam

[gray stone]

Aussie side story

[limpid siren]

[polar crane]

[ornate pond]

maybe im just stupid but dont they have invis

[gray stone]

Just block?

[ivory nimbus]

I'm a beginner, but I've already got too many Sniper options to choose from, idk about adding him to the list of backup Snipers.

[polar crane]

what are you trying to clear

[gray stone]

Anni3

[limpid siren]

what's your current marksman pair

[ivory nimbus]

Me?

[karmic glade]

ESC pause is nice when you need a sec to think about how do you get into this situation, and act quickly in response to that

[limpid siren]

yea

[ivory nimbus]

Jessica and Adnachiel.

[gray stone]

[limpid siren]

what level are they?

[ivory nimbus]

Jess is lv.10 E1, and Adna is lv.45 E1 (I regret overleveling him).

[limpid siren]

tbh

can drop jess for insider

[gray stone]

[limpid siren]

adna isn't ideal either, but he's basically done anyway so i don't want to burden you with dropping both

[polar crane]

should have done kroos instead

[limpid siren]

you probably have bigger priorities

[gray stone]

It is what it is
Just cut your losses for Jessica

[limpid siren]

but jess is at least not that far into it

[gray stone]

Event has free 5 Sniper chips so

[limpid siren]

don't really need to rush insider over jessica, but yea like

he's definitely better than both jessica and adnachiel

[gray stone]

But is he better than Kroos

[ivory nimbus]

At least I won't have to suffer as much now with better Marksman, I guess.

[limpid siren]

which kroos

[gray stone]

3 star

[limpid siren]

yea easily

[gray stone]

[limpid siren]

3* kroos isn't better than any of the 5* marksmen

she's just cheaper

[ivory nimbus]

I'd honestly be surprised if I ever nailed a stage in the first practice run.

[limpid siren]

it be like that

[ivory nimbus]

Yep.

[gray stone]

Game is built on trial and error

Sucks tbh

[ivory nimbus]

Nah, that's the fun of it. if you're a masochist like me.

[limpid siren]

it's the fun of it for me

game gets boring if you win without a challenge every single time

[ivory nimbus]

Fr, it's so much more satisfying to you beat the stage on your own instead of watching guides.

[gray stone]

I don't like going into a stage blind 😔

Enemy info shouldn't be hidden before first try

I think

[limpid siren]

enjoy the game the way you like

nothing wrong with having fun the way you prefer

[ivory nimbus]

Though, tbh, the strat on the guide I watch don't 100% work for me either, since different raised characters and all that, I have to adapt and improvise to make it fit.

[ivory nimbus]

That's a based take, sir.

[gray stone]

New guides for new players suck tho
Because the ops you see are E1 max with trust and all that

[ivory nimbus]

That's why I adapt and improvise.

If it doesn't work for me, I will see what I can do with my line-up using their framework.

[gray stone]

That's the spirit

[ivory nimbus]

👍

[polar crane]

[ivory nimbus]

Unfortunately, it doesn't change the fact that HE-4 is already hellish enough with Lappland being the only Art DPS that doesn't die on the spot right away, and the next few stages are gonna be even harder. Idk whether to laugh or to cry.

[tidal sedge]

HE is just really harsh for new folks

[gray stone]

Get stat checked

[vernal lion]

civis, rock, high def enemies

and boss with debuff

pretty funny lol

[tidal sedge]

I guess it proves why a small number of strong enemies isn't common map design

[ivory nimbus]

... Amiya is the only one who I think can be a boss killer with her S3, and the E2 is still a long way away.

Pain.

[vernal lion]

well we have boss that doesn't need to be killed

[tidal sedge]

Don't worry about boss killing quite yet

[vernal lion]

you just need to survive, and save your men

[ivory nimbus]

Well, that's for future me to deal with.

[deft badger]

those maps are not hard... talking about HE4 u can 2 op it one of the ops myrtle xD

[limpid siren]

Damn you definitely missed the entire conversation

[deft badger]

i saw enough, calling the event hard is enough
its not hard

[limpid siren]

What a tone deaf take

[tidal sedge]

With e2 firepower sure

[limpid siren]

Par for the course though

[vernal lion]

well it's not hard, it's just "my op is not enough" moment

cn has reedic right now

[deft badger]

u have the lmd and xp to e2 a 4 star easy right now in the event shop

[limpid siren]

True

[vernal lion]

I wish the game telling you that

[limpid siren]

Use the rewards to e2 an op
The rewards you get from being able to complete the stages

[vernal lion]

you mean, 24 OP and medals

[limpid siren]

Shop

[vernal lion]

will you have enough to E2 them tho

[limpid siren]

Ask unknown

It’s their take

[vernal lion]

8 event story stages?

what does it give like

[deft badger]

would be a problem if u have to do all the stages to get the rewards which isn't the case
u have to spam one stage

[limpid siren]

Except new players have a lot of different needs

From where i sit it just looks like you’ve barged in to drop a belittling take without offering any meaningful advice

[deft badger]

that's again a u problem who doesn't understand what the priorities are

[limpid siren]

Idk i think the problem is you

[tidal sedge]

What annoys me about the rush e2 logic for new players is that they're experimenting and learning what they have, they wouldn't know what 6*s are overpowered unless they were glued to #help or YouTube, which isn't as common as some folks think

[ivory nimbus]

[deft badger]

when u have a event focus on that event, i don't see the reason u would spend sanity at any other place if the event gives u more rewards for the sanity used

[ivory nimbus]

Igneus, there's no point arguing with him.

[tidal sedge]

It's something that only makes sense when you already understand the game

[limpid siren]

I’m waiting for paint to dry anyway

[deft badger]

there isn't because u have to make sense to do xD

[limpid siren]

It’s a very “cart before the horse” mentality

[deft badger]

events are ur highest priority, skipping them u are losing mats and

[ivory nimbus]

Anyway, if the event shop give so much resources, I suppose I'll dedicate my sanity to event farming.

[limpid siren]

HE being difficult for new players also doesn’t imply they shouldn’t try to complete as much as they can

You filled those gaps in yourself unknown

The reason im picking on you is because you dropped in to say “it’s not that hard lol lmao”

Congratulations for you big guy

[deft badger]

because its not

[ivory nimbus]

Worth the dozen failed attempts.

[deft badger]

the boss doesn't even atk u

how do u call the stages hard then

[vernal lion]

the rock attack your civis

[foggy grove]

🍿

[limpid siren]

You’re missing the “for a new player” context

I understand reading is boring

[tidal sedge]

The crossbow guys as early as HE-5 have 15k hp and 500 def

[limpid siren]

But the sentence isn’t that long

[foggy grove]

it's not hard for his acc surely it's the same even for new player

[tidal sedge]

That's tough for e1 low trust low skill level to crack

[vernal lion]

the whole thing of this event is you have more dp, you will still survive

[ivory nimbus]

... Lappland, clutch my team.

[vernal lion]

I like when they spam 5 thief snipers

then just 1 dp down thief

[ivory nimbus]

Those invisible snipers are the bane of my ranged-heavy team.

[deft badger]

he-1/8 there is a low end 3star e1 guide so seems its not hard...
i do understand that someone who is new to the game does struggle everything beside that i don't

[limpid siren]

Bless

[vernal lion]

that is when they have 6-8 e1 op

[foggy grove]

all that guide sucks since they usually use e1 max,max pot and full trust

[vernal lion]

but, it's not totally for day 1 player

[deft badger]

bro 6 e1s is still doable with 500k lmd in the shop

[vernal lion]

again, when you complete a stage

the point is you need to gather enough resource for E2

before reaching to last stage

[deft badger]

i bet 100 bucks on u that u will finish that in 2 hours btw... from 0 to a full squad of e1s and get to he-8 🙂

[ivory nimbus]

👍

It's been 4 hours of HE for me, and I've only got to HE-4, so I guess you already lost.

[vernal lion]

well you can say that, that's other point for making gacha game

[deft badger]

that's because u are forcing ur self to do he-5 now?

how much of the shop have u cleared atm?

[ivory nimbus]

Nope, just taking a break and figuring out what to do with Insider.

[deft badger]

how much of the shop did u clear?

did u get the lmd and xp

if u can do he-4 with ur squad without a borrow

spam that till u clear the xp and lmd

lvl them in between and keep going up

[ivory nimbus]

Nah, I was wasn't farming, so it's practically pristine and untouched.

Will do it later.

[deft badger]

which lvl are u atm?

acc lvl

[deft badger]

consider using couple to progress u do lvlup fast now anyway but make a plan what u are going to invest in without wasting

[limpid siren]

low level sanity refresh with originite is pretty bad advice

[ivory nimbus]

I've already been doing that with the level package, but thanks you nonetheless.

[deft badger]

its not if u plan what u are going to do, couple i mean like 10-20

[vernal lion]

yea it's a waste to use OP for sanity in lower level

[scarlet ledge]

igneus do my ex stages

pogpogpog

[limpid siren]

idk chief

just kinda

bad advice

[scarlet ledge]

stfu

[limpid siren]

nty

[deft badger]

clear the shop, btw u are getting it back if u progress...

[long epoch]

You gain account levels pretty fast. Spending OP that early sounds so bad.

[scarlet ledge]

i dont even use PO as sanity refill on my early days

[ivory nimbus]

[scarlet ledge]

I USE IT FOR PULLS

[limpid siren]

you're not getting it back tho

that's the whole argument against low level sanity refreshes

low sanity cap makes it undesirable

[scarlet ledge]

igneus buy me PO

so i can refill

[limpid siren]

you got it

[deft badger]

but how doesn't it make sense if u get stuck on that one stage and can't do the rest because u are waiting for it event ends u lost mats and the from first clears

[long epoch]

Yeah. Especially this.

[scarlet ledge]

???

[limpid siren]

because of this

[vernal lion]

ugh, that's the truly issue for new player, no?

[scarlet ledge]

not really

they usually go to farming exp and lmd

[deft badger]

lets say he uses 10 which is actually huge thats a lot of sanity but does clear 10 event stages he got them back got mats for it and did e1 his full squad

then the next event comes in after this where he is going to start stacking

[vernal lion]

yea, I don't even care about T3 or T4 mat earlier

[limpid siren]

what's the sanity cap for a lv19 acc?

like 80? 90?

[ivory nimbus]

The only time I spent OP on anything else instead of level package are on some rolls, since I kinda screwed myself over by not rolling the beginner banner.

[scarlet ledge]

pro

[limpid siren]

max value sanity refresh is 135, so for every point your cap is lower

you're losing that amount of sanity to refresh too early

[scarlet ledge]

igneus

[limpid siren]

leite

[scarlet ledge]

just get to lvl 117 faster

[vernal lion]

19 is 104 sanity cap

[limpid siren]

neat

[latent anvil]

[scarlet ledge]

still balls

jsut use it for lvl package and pulls

[limpid siren]

more than i expected

but still not really ideal

[scarlet ledge]

wgz will do my ex stages on alt acc

[latent anvil]

wtfart no do it urself

[scarlet ledge]

wtf

[spark sinew]

alt acc

[ivory nimbus]

Hold for a min, are the event resources enough to E2 a 6*?

I got Thorns.

[dark glade]

Noidontthinkso

[spark sinew]

e2 4*

[dark glade]

If you play some IS it does

[latent anvil]

depends on what mats u need

[scarlet ledge]

depends which 6★ u raising needed that mats

kek

raising 4★ doe is easy

jsut dont go myrtle first

imma castrate u

[ivory nimbus]

Myrtle E0 S1 is already more than good enough, why would I E2 her early on?

[spark sinew]

s1

sl1?

[ivory nimbus]

Skill 1.

[spark sinew]

myrtle is bad, don't use early on if you want an actually good operator ok maybe it's not that bad on this event

still probably sucks

[long epoch]

If you are still very new, don't try too hard on clearing the shops, focusing on what's most important first. We have rerun later on.

[limpid siren]

first big event for new player is usually pretty tough to clear properly

[scarlet ledge]

plus igneus

this event really fuck new player

kek

[ivory nimbus]

The one with Eyjafjalla and Typhon? Or did my brain to a funni?

[long epoch]

Yea. Especially some later events can have mechanics that not so friendly to newbies.

[vernal lion]

wait for Harold event to fuck even harder

[scarlet ledge]

well eyja event will fuck new player too

stat stick enemy

kekl

[dark glade]

Are the new event even new player friendly at all

[ivory nimbus]

Considering I have already beat HE-4 (albeit I barely survived and they took ages to kill), I think it is still feasible to win.

[dark glade]

The 2 possible rerun also fuck new player equally

[vernal lion]

HG begins to harvest from player's money to be able to beat the game earlier fr

[gray stone]

DV was weirdly high DEF
Eben is not that bad

[spark sinew]

was LE even that bad

[vernal lion]

yes

[gray stone]

It wasn't

[scarlet ledge]

ex stages

[dark glade]

Idk i dont play

[spark sinew]

DV won't rerun in a long time

[gray stone]

Really, it's just the weird positioning

[vernal lion]

they mean for new player

[dark glade]

But from POO i can see DV being bad

[spark sinew]

oh, new players shouldn't give a shit about them

[scarlet ledge]

only regular stage is fine

for new player

except boss

thats require much thinking for them

[gray stone]

I'm pretty sure new players still clear LE relatively easy

[dark glade]

Great i dont need to think

[ivory nimbus]

🗿

[spark sinew]

just rush e2 4* and if you so wish, you can ling the current event

[gray stone]

Because it has no gimmick other than "Robots go big haha die"

[scarlet ledge]

just dont e2 myrtle first ok?

imma castrate u

very early on

[dark glade]

But with ling strats its actually good

[spark sinew]

don't use e0 myrtle either, just forget her

[scarlet ledge]

for early

[gray stone]

LE has a bit worse enemy stats due to the event mechanic being purely unhelpful

[spark sinew]

i mean ling soloes them without myrtle

[ivory nimbus]

No, imma E2 Gravel.

[scarlet ledge]

go for PIONEER

FUCKING PIONEER

[ivory nimbus]

Love her.

[scarlet ledge]

so u can block shit

[spark sinew]

he somehow found worse unit to e2

[spark sinew]

that's fucking impressive

[gray stone]

Lol
Lmao even

[ivory nimbus]

What?

[dark glade]

Huh thats weird Lee borrow

[scarlet ledge]

stun

reflecy

[vernal lion]

boss stun

[gray stone]

Boss stun
Go figure

[spark sinew]

what was the medal?

[dark glade]

I dont know anything forgive me aaaaaaa

[ivory nimbus]

Gravel always came in clutch whenever my defense broke down.

[spark sinew]

doesn't mean you should e2 her

[gray stone]

Maybe raise something to stop your defense from breaking down in the first place

This sounds like survivorship bias

[vernal lion]

all op don't die when they are in LE laser while boss damaging your op with LE laser

[spark sinew]

ew

[formal moss]

i remember raising popukar for LE-8 then finding out that i needed a AoE healer

[spark sinew]

sounds annoying for sure

[dark glade]

Wait hauck you sont play LE either?

[scarlet ledge]

ok time to finish main acc ex satges

[spark sinew]

idr the medals

[dark glade]

Or you just forgor medal req?

[scarlet ledge]

so i can focus on alt tomorrow

[spark sinew]

sometimes i just ignore them

[scarlet ledge]

fucking shit

I HATE THIS EVENT

[spark sinew]

cause who cares

[scarlet ledge]

FOR 3RD TIME

[spark sinew]

i 100% remember skipping UT medals the first time around

[ivory nimbus]

About that... Liskarm is a 5⭐, and that's not feasible for early me.

[spark sinew]

or skipping some CC skins but then i bought them anyway

[gray stone]

DPS is always an option

Defense breaks down from a variety of options
Lacking DPS to kill the threat before it kills you is one of those

[spark sinew]

that's a really edgy skill name

[vernal lion]

yea, that's boss when he turns a friendly LE laser into dmg

[ivory nimbus]

Now do I have think about it, I have a perchance of using meat shield tactics for my Art DPS to kill them.

[gray stone]

Anyway, don't do Gravel E2

[ivory nimbus]

Thorns, Lappland, Amiya, are my main DPS. all of them are 5* or above.

[gray stone]

That's like upgrading the bandaid and ignoring the bleeding

[spark sinew]

get cutter or that rat caster

[dark glade]

Strat and help are both having breakdown on recomending e2 4★

[vernal lion]

no

[gray stone]

Maybe you shouldn't E2 a 4 star first 🗣️

[vernal lion]

we just recommend when it's right time

[spark sinew]

it's more like
upgrading gravel doesn't even make her stronger

[gray stone]

Thorns E2 looks like a better upgrade then whatever you can use with an E2 borrow

[vernal lion]

imagine planning to E2 Gravel when you have other better 4 star

[ivory nimbus]

I don't borrow.

[spark sinew]

there are very few threats that warrant more than e1 gravel

[gray stone]

Then E2 Thorns

[spark sinew]

and then her shield breaks

[ivory nimbus]

Well, rarely.

[gray stone]

Why wouldn't you E2 someone 5 or 6 star anyway

[scarlet ledge]

@vernal lion main done

time to cope on alt acc later

[ivory nimbus]

I didn't say I wouldn't want to.

[vernal lion]

good, now pull for Leto

[scarlet ledge]

tf

fuck u

[gray stone]

Lmao

[ivory nimbus]

But people keep telling me that the event shop is not enough to E2 5 or 6 star.

[spark sinew]

go do that, and when you farm shit for it, event fucking ends

[scarlet ledge]

i e2 3★

get better

[spark sinew]

that's cardigan exclusive

[vernal lion]

which star

[gray stone]

Don't care anyway, there is always a rerun

[spark sinew]

good for you to not care

[gray stone]

Just do it when event ends

[spark sinew]

don't do anything ever

they always come back later

[gray stone]

EN is notorious for shove a dead week in

[vernal lion]

Yato jumps from 2 star to 6 star with a blink

lucky girl

[spark sinew]

why would you push to he-7/8, it will rerun, right

[vernal lion]

oh yea, you don't even need to farm 7 and 8

[gray stone]

Just farm 6 lmao

[vernal lion]

those mats are not that needed much

rock is eternal

[gray stone]

And 7 is kinda easier than 6

[spark sinew]

he's literally stuck at 5

"just farm 6"

"let them eat cake"

[vernal lion]

I thought he-5 is easy

[gray stone]

A puller eleminates half the DPS required

[ivory nimbus]

Anyway, what I've gathered from all this is:

1. Farm the Event for mats

2. Replace Jessica with Insider

3. Dodge the hell away from TheUnknownM

[gray stone]

Farm event for currency

[ivory nimbus]

Thanks y'all for the advices.

[gray stone]

Currency gives LMD and EXP

[glass monolith]

That's better plan that none

[spark sinew]

that's some based list
you should double check anything that people say to you for sure

[vernal lion]

there are 22 dogs and 8 elite thief snipers

in he-5

[glass monolith]

That's the issue, there is thief snipers

[deft badger]

lets see how hard its going to be 😄

[spark sinew]

why yato not below 1 tile

[cold oriole]

bro that looks so hard you gonna increase your iq level

[spark sinew]

the only aoe so early on is cross shaped iirc

[ornate pond]

what if enemy helidrops behind yato

smh

[spark sinew]

oh actually

just weird positioning ig

[vernal lion]

'square tile' game

smh

[deft badger]

there will not be a add helidropping xD

[vernal lion]

this game comes from "where to deploy my op? facing where?"
to "why the hell that enemy just oneshot my whole squad?"

[scarlet ledge]

i experiences playing arknights four times

[ivory nimbus]

The latter is literally me when I'm clearing HE.

Keep wondering what's killing my Vanguards until I realize it's the goddamn rocks.

Had to meat shield Melantha until I could set up my formation.

[glass monolith]

EX-8 CM: Now this shitty rock does over 2000 damage, have fun

[scarlet ledge]

should i play ak tw?

[ivory nimbus]

[scarlet ledge]

just block it

[vernal lion]

I feel like HG makes more different servers with different timeline is just bad tho

unless they ban Arknights in your country

which is non sense

[glass monolith]

At least 3D Ange knights will be handled by HG's branch on english as well with more or less same timeline... right?

[scarlet ledge]

no worries minus

[ivory nimbus]

Well... it certainly didn't exist in my country app store.

[scarlet ledge]

en will fuck localization of tl

[ivory nimbus]

I already noticed some grammatical errors in the dialogs of HE.

So yes, localization over in HG seems a bit kooky.

[scarlet ledge]

i been focus on en

i forgot my cn

[limpid siren]

localisation is yostar's job

[scarlet ledge]

so my sanity cap again

[limpid siren]

which is why it sucks

[scarlet ledge]

[limpid siren]

because yostar is hopeless

[scarlet ledge]

so real

e2 my provence now

[limpid siren]

why isn't she e2 already

[polar crane]

yostar monney maker is azurlane so they ditch ark

[scarlet ledge]

i just e2 and s2m3 mahwa protag

[ivory nimbus]

[tidal sedge]

I think it's just incompetence than malice

[polar crane]

what's that

[tidal sedge]

I don't think they would bother with EN dub updates if they were intent on being complete cheapskates. Especially since there's some recognizable names they hire for some roles.

[scarlet ledge]

@vernal lion INSIDER BROKEN

😭

[spark sinew]

no module, literally defective

[scarlet ledge]

ignore the no module

not trust 100%

[spark sinew]

also glorypack abuser smh

[versed arrow]

pretty sure I just saw someone post a typo error on AL on reddit the other day. AK just have more words story scene wise so is more prone to typo imo.

[lethal dragon]

Good
Change the publisher

[polar crane]

[dark violet]

When looked at, there's a super wordy story almost every month, along with several ops and event text and mechanics and banner logo and... Yeah, tl might not be that easy

[dry night]

how do i beat HE-5

[gray stone]

Do you have both Cliffheart and Rope at skill level 4?

[dry night]

no

[gray stone]

Only 1 at skill level 4?

[dry night]

either way I havent leveled them up alot

letmecheck

[gray stone]

E0L1 works fine

Also show who do you have

[dry night]

both at lev 2

[gray stone]

The entire roster?

Get Rope to skill level 4 ASAP, she removes half the DPS requirement

[spark sinew]

how far are you from e2 ethan (or any other 4* for that matter)

[dry night]

that far

[dry night]

what bout level

[gray stone]

Level is not required

[spark sinew]

shouldn't have leveled him that much

[gray stone]

Holes are your best friends

[dense drum]

is it just me or my medics arent healing for some reason

[dry night]

you asked how far i was from e2 ethan

[gray stone]

Which stage

[spark sinew]

[dense drum]

Ex 3

[gray stone]

Now I ask you to send the rest of your roster

[dense drum]

the new event

i put ptil there and she just refuses to heal for some reason

[spark sinew]

are you healing like, executor?

[spark sinew]

e1 max myrtle the menace

[dense drum]

oh i just remembered he aint healable

fuck

[gray stone]

Should be easy, just raise Rope's skill level

[dense drum]

my brain stupid

[spark sinew]

it happens

[dense drum]

indeed

[dry night]

where do i even place her

[dense drum]

is there a way to counter the invis enemies that just slows down dp?

[gray stone]

Yeah, you kill them

[spark sinew]

scene ely ines

[dense drum]

anyways that does not involve killing them?

[dense drum]

@gray stone this

[spark sinew]

gotta kill

[dense drum]

ex 3 cm just declined my offer to kill him

[gray stone]

Either of these spots, and spawn camp the other lane

[deft badger]

it would be nice if i could start one acc where i don't get weedy right at the start xD

[spark sinew]

weedy is good

become dalao, speedrun d15 izumik on new acc

[gray stone]

You should have a blocker in the green areas, and Penance in the yellow spot handling the helidrop guy

[deft badger]

bru what do u do with weedy right at the start of the game

[dry night]

are the crossbowers weak to art or physical

[gray stone]

Keep your civilian on the right side statue

[gray stone]

If your team is weak, neither

Holes instantly kill things

[spark sinew]

s2 is powerful

[dry night]

man im tired

gn guys

[spark sinew]

early game also pushed shift specs a lot

a lot of stages are basically shaw showcase

then you have stages that blaze could dunk on

[gray stone]

Night night

[spark sinew]

same deal

[gray stone]

HE-5 is a Shifter/Flag showcase lol

[spark sinew]

with veteran knowledge and splitboxing shit with like yato

you can do insane things with weedy

[gray stone]

Better for newbies to just build a Shaw and Rope and get done with it

[deft badger]

meh i don't care

[spark sinew]

even at e1

typical en player smh

stumped when can't texas+yato the stage

[spark sinew]

for actual newbies, yeah

they'll also get the use out of them on all 3 starter annis

well, on anni 3 shifter is kinda doodoo

but still

[gray stone]

I guess Rope is kinda hard to kind early

Anni3 has E1 Shaw stuff

[spark sinew]

everyone has cliff after seven days

yeah all 3 annis use shaw

[gray stone]

The thing is that it requires 7 days

[spark sinew]

do people still use shaw to push ergates on anni2

[gray stone]

DPS check too hard, just Shaw

[spark sinew]

kinda?
new players are really fucking slow

[gray stone]

Maybe it's because I speedrun shits

[spark sinew]

we had a guy with like e2 90 mlynar and full e2 squad struggling with anni3 here

not long ago

and then saying they die on first 100 enemies on LE anni

waiting a week for a cliff is nothing

[gray stone]

DP gen issues

[spark sinew]

yeah but i meant