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clear ingot
deft badger
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was farming rocks will try now, saw right now blemi mastery will change the duration of the skill

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this is going to be pain i have to figure timings out again

glass monolith
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He hit up to 5. But i have Tea party at blue box so they don't reach shit HellaKek

clear ingot
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I took the risk that disables the 4 blocks on right, so the robodums hit all my ops

glass monolith
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Well, have fun, i have no medics to handle that HellaKek

clear ingot
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Since I have no standard tanks built(all I have is Juggernauts and Horn), all I did is rely on the Abyssal duo to carry the mountain load of pressure

spark sinew
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-weight where

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oh i missed it

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bloody blind

trail crag
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What exactly do i have to do to clear this? i selected the Challenges but it didnt count, and i know there is the Rating thing at the bottom but i have no clue how i should increase the Dispatch rating to 50 minimum πŸ€”

trail crag
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Is it really necessary to select so many things to reach that Rating? Im currently working on unlocking all the challenges and Missions without trying to make it to hard for now :/

glass monolith
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Well it says right here, get to 50

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Unholy way you achieve that is on you

trail crag
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I used the challenges shown in the screenshot after your post you linked but i only each 33 Dispatch rating πŸ€”

glass monolith
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Some risks add random amount of dispatch and planning too but most of them are pain to get and honestly i by accident did risk 300 because i miss read mission as 50 in Dispatch AND (50 in) Planning, because "total score of" was on different row

trail crag
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Guess this is not enough then.. have to see what else i can do to get it up..

glass monolith
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It is 54 Dispatch + Planning LappDumb

trail crag
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Get your Head out of the Gutter πŸ˜…

deft badger
real jacinth
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can i stop the endspeaker from getting evolutions

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his resistance evo is fucking up my gnosis permafreeze strat

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im on the final level +challenge mode btw

glass monolith
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If you use Gnosis S3 and burst it during that you won't notice res food

real jacinth
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gnosis is hitting other shit tho

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hum maybe lemme check rq

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does the evolutions drop when entering new form

tropic valve
glass monolith
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There are abuse which makes boss eat only 1 food instead 2, but for that you need other 2 food die while on blue box tile (maybe red box apply too, didn't check), which will make boss fail to target ti

flat sapphire
real jacinth
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this one

real jacinth
tropic valve
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as others have pointed out, Gnosis counters any form of the boss except the one that has status resistance

crisp bolt
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to this day I still don't know how it works

tropic valve
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Schwarz also kills any form of the boss (including the DEF one)

real jacinth
tropic valve
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other DPS work as well, you just have to be selective what you feed it

crisp bolt
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how the buffs work

flat sapphire
crisp bolt
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I just unga bunga and boss died

glass monolith
real jacinth
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okay how to get him to not eat res buff

tropic valve
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put the res buff as far away from him

real jacinth
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doesnt that path right through my defenses though

flat sapphire
real jacinth
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far like on top of the objective?

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oh.

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just put the other one closer then

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doable

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lemme try

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res is the octopus one i think

flat sapphire
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ignores pathing btw

real jacinth
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?

flat sapphire
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it ignores pathing when checking which buffs to eat

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it literally goes for the closest one regardless of the path

real jacinth
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good

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i have him locked in stage 2 wit gnosis rn

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i may have messed up with killing the freak in the top right corner

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bc of dodge

bold lance
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the thing in top right doesn't have dodge?

flat sapphire
bold lance
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Exactly

flat sapphire
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btw if u kill brandguider in blue/red box it won't make nethersea brand

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neither does the other one

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founder

real jacinth
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GAHAHAHAHAAAAA

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i did it

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ty guys

flat sapphire
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now do ex Sheew

real jacinth
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that was ex

flat sapphire
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oh

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lmao

real jacinth
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yeah the normal version i just dumped miss nearl and that was it

flat sapphire
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yeh u should be ok

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iirc ex8 is harder than s5

real jacinth
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wait what else am i supposed to do

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im missing like three medals and everything is done

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????

flat sapphire
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s stages?

bold lance
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the medals tell you what to do

real jacinth
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wait i see

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yeah

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these will not be fun

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SN ex 8 with two components

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i KNEW this would show up

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it dont say challenge mode...

real jacinth
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EZ

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plus i got the lining

real jacinth
cedar wind
real jacinth
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i like beezwax more than carnelian

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can carnelian summon cool obelisk?

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i dont think so

cedar wind
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So true. #beeswaxnationriseup

real jacinth
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#freeobelisk

upper trout
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how do you defeat this guy.. he’s wiping out all of my ops

vernal lion
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this event is hard as shit, you won't touch it unless you have all core E2 op for this

bitter halo
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i understand now SkadiDaijoubu

vernal lion
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btw @bitter halo ...reach a total score of 50 in Dispatch and Planning...

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there are 6 of Judgment's Sanctuary

bitter halo
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ya i thought that was game performance score

vernal lion
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2 of them are Dispatch and Planning

bitter halo
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like how tf

bitter halo
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Look at those buffs holy

vernal lion
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540 for max reward, 600 for medal btw

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and yes, it's holy shit

bitter halo
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HUHH

vernal lion
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I mean, as I said, you need all core op for this

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it's really stat check

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beat the 600 score and I'm dip now, just wait for 3 daily maps

pliant furnace
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are the robots immune to sleep?

vernal lion
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but they are not immune to freeze

upper trout
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highest op i have is like e1 lvl 80 or smth

vernal lion
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at least there's no HP down and SP down, or Imma get a real shit

shut siren
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how do u do sn-s-4-a?? ive been trying for ages and i just cant do it

ancient hearth
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what exactly are you failing to?

shut siren
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anything and everything

ancient hearth
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post squad

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because otherwise I'll just point you to youtube

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as the easiest solution

shut siren
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ive tried youtube

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1 sec ill take a screenshot

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ive tried my gnosis too, and ive tried jaye

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ive also tried dorothy

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i just have a huge skill issue πŸ’€

ancient hearth
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this is the one with the huge number of pre deployed rounders right?

shut siren
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yeah

shut siren
ancient hearth
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borrow texas on S1, or wai fu

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your squad is way too expensive to put up blockers and kill them before they move

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needs more vanguards

shut siren
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umm

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i have canta

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and blackngiht

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that i can use

ancient hearth
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good enough, also, no lapp?

shut siren
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nope level 1 😭

ancient hearth
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podenco?

shut siren
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i have podenco raised a bit

dark carbon
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Is there a way to get more dp at start of pinchout 600 with dp regen -75% without bagpipe or module texas?

ancient hearth
shut siren
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yeah

cyan gorge
dark carbon
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I dont have resource to pump texas to lv60 e2 for now
Guess Im not day 1 anytime soon

cyan gorge
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You don't need lvl 60

vernal lion
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yea, I did a stupid thing, but it absolutely worked

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I found myself all the atk up risks are really ass, so just no atk risk

timid spade
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Has anyone done 540 without Mylnar + Surtr/Skalter or something like that? I don't have mlynar or skalter or surtr or pozy SkadiDaijoubu

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I keep losing near the end

vernal lion
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then you're done

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this po event is really stat check

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99% ppl don't like this

dark carbon
timid spade
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GoldenglowSad
I've been trying by borrowing mlynar and using chongus + healers and defenders, but I can't seem to clear the final wave

scarlet ledge
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@vernal lion @gray stone 320 score...

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i cant anymore

gray stone
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then stop

scarlet ledge
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urgh

vernal lion
scarlet ledge
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other tag is bs

gray stone
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I haven't cared one bit about CC

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my finals are tougher battles

vernal lion
scarlet ledge
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idk lol

vernal lion
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how much score is that btw

scarlet ledge
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320

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idk what tag to choose

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for higher lol

vernal lion
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good enough

scarlet ledge
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all deadly

ancient hearth
scarlet ledge
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@vernal lion if i take hp tag for all enemy again
dps not enough
sane for -atk

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alll atk tag is shit for bears

ancient hearth
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It's definitely possible, you just need some frd with silence to clear the backrow, then better healing that I had

vernal lion
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she's only ~300 atk, the s2m3 buff the dmg to ~1250 dmg

scarlet ledge
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i picked hp tag for 360 @vernal lion

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dont have enough dps for ealry dog

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to kill it

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the second one

vernal lion
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sane enough to pick these risks

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if you pick atk up, you don't pick 1000% mech hp buff

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and DP too

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you won't have enough time to heal

ancient hearth
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don't pick max atk on anything

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mechs, rhine engineers, dorothy, they'll just start 1-2 shotting your ops

vernal lion
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5 points for atk up is not worthy to risk

latent anvil
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70% atk Sheew that risk is so good

ancient hearth
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with max atk the rhine engineers that spawn as a group of 2 towards the end are scarier than dorothy

scarlet ledge
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kiss now

weak gazelle
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yes so good
to the point i lose the map 5 sec after entering itFiaDed

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experience that
me avoid any +atk risk available

vernal lion
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haha don't you love mech with 5000 atk ?

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it hit my Hoshi half of HP lmao

scarlet ledge
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oh ye mizuki shop?

shut siren
# ancient hearth

THANK YOU i actually did it 😭
the extra vanguards and texalter s1 helped literally so much

weak gazelle
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because of this POO
i hate robotReedBean
it just massive statstick that my 5* ops really struggle to just even survive

latent anvil
ancient hearth
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"her"

vernal lion
latent anvil
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hes pretty much a her

weak gazelle
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well ~500 points are doable now but man....
i dont have time to do it and dont even want to

scarlet ledge
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@vernal lion FUCKING SHIT

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360 btw
added hp tag

vernal lion
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you should ki$$ yourself now

scarlet ledge
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dog hp is augeahga

vernal lion
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dog hp isn't matter

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600 def is

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can't deal dmg to them with normal attack and have to force to use skill is so lame

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tbh the risk that is banned tile from the right and more dor-3 is really stupid

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they force you to defense that mech

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from being activated

ancient hearth
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don't take that risk tbh

vernal lion
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yea

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the relevant solution is Kal'tsit, but she will die to rocket

ancient hearth
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I just took left side tile bans, and killed right side mechs to redirect the triangles, then huddled around the blue box

timid spade
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I keep losing here because Ptilo dies SkadiDaijoubu
Do you guys think if I build lumen, can he keep her healed long enough to kill the final spirit thing?

lavish heath
vernal lion
vernal lion
timid spade
vernal lion
timid spade
scarlet ledge
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@vernal lion ok im done on pinch out perma beakrnights

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360 my limit

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rn

vernal lion
# timid spade

your problems are picking that atk up while having 100 aspd for rocket bot,
and 150% hp buff for dor, that shit is tanky as hell
finally is 5 deploy limit

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mind your risks again

timid spade
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Guess I'll try reshuffling a bit

vernal lion
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I don't take any atk up except dorothy because I can tank her

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but you take atk up with 100 aspd rocket bot is quite painful

ocean jolt
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Hey Naga

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I did it

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Got the 3 stars on that stage

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Got the background

vernal lion
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if you want to pick 100 aspd rocket bot, you need some op that has talent related to it like Liskarm or Lin...

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because it will help a lot for your strat

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or defensive sp charge

valid kraken
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Is their a strat to beat LS -5 without coura?

timid spade
vernal lion
valid kraken
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With defender because i can't block 4 big dudes without coura nor can i kill them fast enough

valid kraken
vernal lion
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I think your problem is DP, not op

valid kraken
vernal lion
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do you have Plume

valid kraken
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Yeah

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It's low level tho

vernal lion
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2 charger vg are good for slug because they can make DP faster than pioneer in this stage

valid kraken
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Ic

vernal lion
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about Fang, you deploy her on top right, there's 2 dogs rush iirc

valid kraken
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Then I won't be able to defend bottom right since they spawn their first

scarlet ledge
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@vernal lion zima sacrifice

vernal lion
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check my video

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because the stage needs you to make it right, so I can't explain it all

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base on that video, you check your op and see what to do right

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also you will mind about 2 last butchers

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they hit really hard

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and tanky too

valid kraken
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Thanks man. it worked it's just that I don't have a good second tank so ill try to adjust something

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If i have no choice then i guess ill borrow a tank unit

vernal lion
vernal lion
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yes

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at least they modified the rocket bot here with only 2 attack count instead of 4 in normal

timid spade
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Damn, so grabbing NG from kernel won't help lol
I have the one where they have 4 targets anyway. I'll just take a break for now, will try again tomorrow. Thanks for the help!

peak cloak
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i can list some issues with your line up:

Exusiai, seriously? what she can does against high def enemies? assume that u have s3m3.

u dont have Ops that can reduce healing pressure on Ptilopsis (like Saria or at least Nearl) so when enemies out heal you = lose. Gummy is there but she is low lvl and not yet build, prob just die after one or two hits and cant give enough sustain when necessary.

Lumen, i think he wont solve any problems -> u may want to use Silence alter with s3.

Kaltsit does work, but in the case when u need heals, she will just focus on Mon3tr and herself ,again, put your Ptilopsis in a high pressure situation.

i'm kinda surprised that u can go this far (41/44) gg wp to you and maybe fix your lineup would make u clear 540 easier, but do u have better ops or those are all you have?

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@timid spade

timid spade
peak cloak
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or wait for more tags.

timid spade
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Silence alter S3 is a good suggestion, I kinda forgot about it. I'll keep trying and if I really need to, I'll build her, but I'll prob avoid that if I can

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I also have suzuran and dorothy that are built and not showing in that roster, but that's it

scarlet ledge
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@vernal lion kekw i made thumbnail lol

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most effort so far

vernal lion
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lmao Zima with correction symbol

peak cloak
scarlet ledge
peak cloak
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again gg wp to you, 41/44 with the current ops in a hard event.

timid spade
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Yeah... A bit too hard for the rewards it offers though πŸ˜…

peak cloak
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u may have to wait for more tags to open, so that u can get 540 easier. trust me i even tried to 600 last 7h and my run end in 9 sec.RedOmegaLul

weak gazelle
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at least you try yourself which is good
rarely seen player like you nowadays in this server

timid spade
valid kraken
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Is LS-6 the last stage for tactical drill?

peak cloak
valid kraken
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True

peak cloak
peak cloak
weak gazelle
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dont worry event last for 2 weeks
can try again next week
mine will reach 600 by that
wether i like it or not

valid kraken
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I had to brute force my way to win ls5

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I only have an average of e1 lvl 40 ops

scarlet ledge
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arkhy me don

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idk im gonna go for phase 2

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ursus only

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πŸ’€

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i already forgot what tag on p2

weak gazelle
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just take your time
brute force always a strat cause it work
ugly or neat clear come later

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rosa def ignore doesnt help?
ahh right ussg have very few option

boreal magnet
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now whats the easiest tag for 600 score HellaKek

weak gazelle
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maybe leak the rocket launcher/doro
pick one

scarlet ledge
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only help on failure and normal enemy

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if you called them normal enemy

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with bloated stat

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rosa cant even deal damage on ranged gundam lol

weak gazelle
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well we cant avoid statstick anyway so yeah.....

polar crane
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use ifritthumbsup

scarlet ledge
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tf

polar crane
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40% art shred too good

weak gazelle
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i love seeing my teq deal 102 dmg to rocket launcherReedBean

scarlet ledge
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arkhy

polar crane
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mlynar have true damage thumbsup

scarlet ledge
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doro is fucking menace

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with limited healing

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on my team

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πŸ’€

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the only tag i didnt choose on doro is atk+ and hp seal 2 when leaking

weak gazelle
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tbh idk how to deal with doro
i skip her event so no idea what she do, so i leak her

scarlet ledge
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avoided all atk tag

boreal magnet
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just do dmg to her

scarlet ledge
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tf

vernal lion
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@scarlet ledge stall harder HellaKek

scarlet ledge
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lol

bitter halo
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is there any reason to do 600 risk

peak cloak
bitter halo
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alright

peak cloak
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540 is enough for all rewards i remember.

crisp bolt
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honestly I don't know why I haven't done 540 yet

vernal lion
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you haven't done it yet

tidal sedge
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btw

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for gg

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modless vs mod on a single target without killing or retargeting after crit. If they do retarget, the time would reset. So it would be waaaaay better for mod.
5.2sec = 42.4% dps increase
9.1sec = 31.6% dps increase
15.6sec = 22.3% dps increase

gray stone
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I want to call whoever at HG is doing to numbers for Harold boss

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Man hit like 2k in a farm stage

limpid siren
gray stone
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2880 physical damage normal attacks RosChill

vernal lion
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HG cooking a real hard game

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fr

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For every unlit Emergency Brazier on the map, Harold will take 35% less Physical, Arts, and True damage (indicated by a swirling barrier around him), stacking up to 4 times

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Kristen 2.0

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oh I know how to burst Harold

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so he's just a simple boss

dark carbon
vernal lion
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I don't have s2m3 reed alter tho

dark carbon
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or the friend borrow her from I guess

gray stone
vernal lion
gray stone
celest bluff
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HG really hate people dropping true damage on boss now huh

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I mean okay that is fair

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I planned to play lone trail without touching the balls

vernal lion
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when the power of science is stronger than True dmg...

gray stone
celest bluff
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But it start to getting out of hand for newer players

long epoch
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HG: Thou must obey the mechanics. BlitzSmile

gray stone
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I mean

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I have more complaints about the boss hitting you for 2880 physical damage

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I think the event mechanics but ass but if anything new players won't make it to RS-8 anyway

vernal lion
celest bluff
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God damn

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HG gonna make next event mechanics harder

gray stone
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6 op

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weak

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Silvergun did 4 op

celest bluff
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Back then the Endspeaker grudge of the devs already considered hard

tidal sedge
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Not really

gray stone
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I think much of the difficulty of Harold comes from the fact that heater as a mechanic is just annyoing

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and the stat check

tidal sedge
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Only phase 2 was considered a threat, and even then Gnosis dunks on Endspeaker there

celest bluff
limpid siren
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what was the endspeaker?

tidal sedge
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For average players I understand, because enemy description omits a lot of what it does and how it works

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SN boss

gray stone
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I always called it by Assimilator idk

limpid siren
celest bluff
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When anniversary again

limpid siren
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16 jan

celest bluff
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Well I guess SN was considered hard back then because most people don't have wandering medic

tidal sedge
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If enemy info wasn't total trash, I think folks would've found it a lot easier

celest bluff
gray stone
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Only phase 2 was really a threat in SN, they gave you a ton of buffs

tidal sedge
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Autocorrect pls don't turn lot into little

long epoch
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Enemy info in the past and present. BlitzSmile

deft badger
vernal lion
celest bluff
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There are now mobs that have more hp than W

vernal lion
deft badger
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just the start

vernal lion
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I will ping you when I'm done

deft badger
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ty

celest bluff
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Imagine W but with chapter 13 stats

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Would still easy

deft badger
tidal sedge
tidal sedge
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SL boss?

glass monolith
# vernal lion https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpJiCio6pCY&ab_channel=ZPKF

CW: Phase 1 - I capture balls for damage reduction
Phase 2 - I capture each ball once and don't capture balls for damage reduction anymore

Whatever that was: Phase 1 - I disable 1 oven for damage reduction
Phase 2 - I disable 2 ovens for damage reduction. Also i have nuclear launch codes and half of stage is frozen. Farming stage btw

celest bluff
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Reed sister

tidal sedge
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Oh. I wasn't around for WFLC

gray stone
tidal sedge
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Oh

gray stone
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Not Eblana

celest bluff
gray stone
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I think the idea that enemies just throw snowballs at you is funny

celest bluff
gray stone
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but they hit mega hard so it's less funny

celest bluff
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That isn't funny

long epoch
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Ranged enemies have to be more threatening. BlitzSmile

weak gazelle
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sham doll and mod stack additive or multi?

vernal lion
celest bluff
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Snowball that can kill you

tidal sedge
vernal lion
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truly insane

tidal sedge
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So 55% total atk reduction from her attacks and doll

weak gazelle
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hmm
not bad for 2 mod block costMudrockNaruhodo

gray stone
vernal lion
gray stone
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AoE nuke damage

tidal sedge
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Killer snowballs

vernal lion
tidal sedge
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Oh. They don't reload the snowballs?

vernal lion
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lmao

tidal sedge
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So they're basically grenade launcher guys from WD

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But with cold

weak gazelle
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this whatever event tempt me to use phalanx even more

tidal sedge
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Use Beeswax summer skin for maximum amusement

gray stone
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There is a pretty good Lin tile lol

weak gazelle
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i tempted to use mint tbh to cancel their atk but range is the problem

gray stone
viscid jolt
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how tf do you do this tage πŸ™πŸ˜­

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i'm lossing my mind

eager gate
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What is the stage

viscid jolt
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S7-2

celest bluff
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Look like patriot

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Which is you know

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Just look up a guide

eager gate
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Pat's a pushover these days

viscid jolt
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I got no built 3 or 4 stars kekw

eager gate
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there's a 4* that straight up just shoots 1st phase to death

celest bluff
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I mean yeah everyone up to tal is just a pushover even for new players

viscid jolt
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wait i can just barrow a ling

eager gate
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S72 isn't a pat level tho

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at least pat isn't on the enemy list

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hmmm alright I think I get it

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What vanguards do you have

viscid jolt
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i beated it with ling

eager gate
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oh ok

celest bluff
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Never use ling before

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How was the blue women

glass monolith
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You deploy woman. Then you deploy weak dragon, Then you YuGiOh fussion bullshit special summon Blue Eyes White dragon or whatever. Then you realize event mechanics have enemies target Ling health points directly and throw the duel

celest bluff
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HG when they released good operators and then players use the operators as intended

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"My le bomb kill people?"

glass monolith
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It is much funnier when they release mediocre niche operator and then players destroy something who has said niche as weakness HellaKek

celest bluff
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How many op with silence

glass monolith
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Avatar of Dumb, Ho'ol on levitated targets, Snowsant on infected creatures, Podenco, Proviso

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Someone maybe can call more i don't

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Oh yea Jaye and Texasas S1s

viscid jolt
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Uh

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coach pls πŸ™ SkadiDaijoubu

crisp bolt
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use the mines

tidal sedge
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are you borrowing

viscid jolt
tidal sedge
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borrow texalt s2 if you have

crisp bolt
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penance can solo the entire stage with mines

viscid jolt
viscid jolt
crisp bolt
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s3

tidal sedge
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use her s2 + mines to kill the boss

borrow surtr for phase 2 just in case

defend the bottom left blue box with everything else

viscid jolt
#

will this do SkadiDaijoubu

tidal sedge
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sure go

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spam mines in front of boss, he goes in zig zag

viscid jolt
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i'm afraid but i op it works

tidal sedge
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place texalt whenever boss stops

deft badger
sly drift
#

Just what is this RedOmegaLul

deft badger
#

u have a bit over 24h left

sly drift
#

Do you let Dorothy pass or robo pass

crisp bolt
#

not sure if you can let only doro pass with that mess BlitzSmile

deft badger
#

u can

sly drift
#

On next run bruh SwireHyper wtf

deft badger
#

surviving her is a other story πŸ˜„

crisp bolt
#

but yeah early 600 risk is just pain

sly drift
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Man..not even skadi s3 survive.

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From robo rocket spam

viscid jolt
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EZ

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I BEATED I

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IT*

sly drift
#

And the range is like the whole map wtf RedOmegaLul

viscid jolt
#

penance tank patriot phase 2

deft badger
viscid jolt
deft badger
#

SN

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i would guess u did not πŸ˜„

viscid jolt
#

i love penance so much for tanking patriot phase 2

tidal sedge
#

better reroll for her then BagThumbsUp

viscid jolt
sly drift
glass monolith
#

If you madlad like me who went +120% ATK to all HellaKek

sly drift
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I probably doing it right now HellaKek

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Let me see the risk

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Idk but I think +atk is easier than hp+

deft badger
#

atk to all is ok, but doro with all the atk buffs is everything then ok...

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in total i spend like 10 hours trying and trying my brain took heavy dmg

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now i am just going to w8 to see nagas video BlitzSmile

sly drift
#

Is it better to take phys or art route

deft badger
#

58gb of videos from yesterday and i am not even a bit smarter lol

sly drift
#

Man I think I need res debuff after all

deft badger
#

i think it totally depends what u are going to use and what u have

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u can leak doro and rocket gunners

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or u can stall gunners and kill them

spark sinew
#

all guard strats I've seen use both

sly drift
#

Robo def in default is already super high so I think I'm going art route

spark sinew
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mainly because mlynar exists

deft badger
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Hauckindu, wanna see what naga did...
then i will decide if i keep going with my blemi healing or try stalling gunners and kill them

sly drift
deft badger
#

yes

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u can leak the 2 gunners and doro

glass monolith
#

Skip 10 for Dorothy does 2 and 10 for 1 hp seal and move on

deft badger
#

she isn't costing any points if u don't take the tag for it

spark sinew
sly drift
#

Omfg I forgot Dorothy doesn't deplete hp

deft badger
#

is there even a way to kill that b-

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πŸ˜„

glass monolith
#

On highest risk probably not

spark sinew
deft badger
#

nah bro he uses kal as far i saw

sly drift
deft badger
#

kal is the base rest is just there to be there

tidal sedge
#

@spark sinew where we talking about gg mod the other day or was that someone else

deft badger
spark sinew
tidal sedge
#

i did them

tidal sedge
# spark sinew we did talk about GG mod but i didn't add much to the convo i _was_ interested i...

GG mod calc for anyone who wants WarPog

no mod on skill atk 703

5.2sec = hits 4times 140+ 246+ 351+ 457 = 1,194x3=3,582: 688dps + 1 drone explosion = 1,094 dps, (aoe 405)

9.1 sec = hits 7times 140+ 246+ 351+ 457+ 563 + 668+ 774=3,199x3=9,597: 1,054dps + 2 drone explosion = 1,518dps (aoe 463)

15.6 sec = hits 12times 140+ 246+ 351+ 457+ 563+ 668 + (774x6)=7,069x3=21,207: 1,359dps +3 drone explosion = 1,765 (aoe 405)

with mod on skill atk 772

5.2sec = 270+ 386+ 501+ 617 = 1,774x3=5,322: 1,023dps +1 drone explosion = 1,557dps (aoe 534)

9.1sec = 270+ 386+ 501+ 617+ 733+ (849x2) = 4,205x3=12,615: 1,386dps + 2 drone explosion = 1,997dps (aoe 610)

15.6sec = 270+ 386+ 501+ 617+ 733+ (849x7) = 8,450x3=25,350: 1,625dps + 3 drone explosion = 2,159dps (aoe 534)

So for st damage with mod vs without. This assumes that the target does not die, or that gg retargets due to a crit for the entire duration.
5.2sec = 42.4% dps increase
9.1sec = 31.6% dps increase
15.6sec = 22.3% dps increase

Mod1 is the main increase, mod2 is pretty nice as it will add a decent amount of dps + pretty big upgrade for aoe dmg.
mod3 is a luxury for those that use gg alot, the gains are not super noticable.

spark sinew
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super big for trash killing

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which is what GG normally does anyway

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did you calc numbers for mod1 vs 2 vs 3 by any chance?

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how much is the increase if you just go for mod1 for example

tidal sedge
#

I did from mod 1 - mod 3 but not for mod 1 or 2 alone

so I went back and recalculated a bit just to see the difference between mod1-2-3. The main thing is definitely mod1, from mod1 to mod3 on the same target for 4 attacks (5.2 sec) it is about a 10% increase, for 12 attacks(15.6sec) in its about 8%. the aoe dmg change is more exaggerated though, at 24.7%. The majority of the increase from mod2 and 3 is on mod2. So for most people I would prob rec mod2 BagThumbsUp

deft badger
#

i have a new idea 2 healers blemi + saria mlynar...

tidal sedge
#

I havent seen blemi used for burst heal in possibly over a year BagNino

wicked viper
# tidal sedge GG mod calc for anyone who wants <:WarPog:1091469122954604554> no mod on skill...

MudrockNaruhodo i think instead of assuming how many explosion she can do within that period of time, wouldn't it be easier to factoring in overall explosion dps?
if within 13s for example, she attack 10 times or 30 hits in total, with 10% explosion chance it becomes 3 explosion within 13s or 900% / 13 = 69.23% of her atk become explosion dps = 486 and it's constant within all 3 situation

similarly, with pot it becomes 360% x 3 / 13 = 641 explosion dps

these ofc doesn't factor in overkill

spark sinew
#

what literally no aoe healers raised does to people

deft badger
#

that's after i realized i have to let her face up not to the left

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but still i lack heal at the end

tidal sedge
#

basically I got scared out of doing it the way you say when I was testing, because my crit chance seemed a little lower than 10% lol

wicked viper
#

MudrockNaruhodo the actual crit chance is around 10% within calculation ya

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it build up slowly and something like

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1.5% base chance, every time it doesn't explode, increase chance by 1.5%

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but overall, it's close to 10%

deft badger
#

this would even work if i could place surtr in the left upper corner but ofc u cant place a op there..

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mlynar dies and its all gg

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now i thing about adding saria

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take skalter out add a 2nd healer

glass monolith
#

Wait, POO don't give golden week? THIS EVENT SUCKS

deft badger
#

whats golden week?

glass monolith
#

All resource stages whatever the name

sharp wadi
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Bruh stat check

glass monolith
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Wanted to stall. Realized i have no defenders for job. Went Burst instead HellaHands

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CC9 experience for me

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Fun was not, risk went high

deft badger
#

cc9 was use silver silver silver 100 times grave

glass monolith
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Silver who? Eyja range eggs? HellaKek

deft badger
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surtr silver aoe sniper gravel

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where did u place eyja?

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she dies left side and right side

glass monolith
#

CC9, eggs, who explode in eyja range

deft badger
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if she hits the eggs

glass monolith
#

THEIR range is Eyja S3

peak cloak
#

we have 2 dead weeks to farm 1-7 so enjoy

deft badger
#

but cc9 did cost me like 12 hours of my life figuring out timings xD

spark sinew
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idt it would last 2 weeks would it

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they would probably add another event after the current rerun anyway

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~~ I should've checked the d-word to know for sure~~

deft badger
#

next on the cn list exe xD

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i hope they do

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lol

glass monolith
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Dorothy rerun because i like being balled

spark sinew
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i wouldn't mind dead weeks

deft badger
#

nah give me exe

glass monolith
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(And because i don't need to spare this stupid Rat for medal now)

spark sinew
#

so many modules and chips

deft badger
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i wanna try him out in pinchout

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lol

spark sinew
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what's the point of exe without module

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i would rather get the full unit hut a bit later

deft badger
#

w8 he will not have his module now?

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getting it later?

spark sinew
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no

deft badger
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ok f- exe

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πŸ˜„

spark sinew
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oh aak module is with executor

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nvm gimme the event

deft badger
#

which skill do i use on saria?

spark sinew
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1>3>2

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1>3 is debatable, depends on how you use her

deft badger
#

what does that dude use is it 1?

spark sinew
#

yes

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i should have my p5 mod3Y saria in sup i believe

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although for pinch out X would be better

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since idt saria has enough time to ramp up

deft badger
#

farming books atm will look then when i am done in like 10min

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have to read what the mods do

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then to look for a saria

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maybe it even works out with 2 ST healers saria blemi

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i have now s3m2 blemi should run better even like this

vernal lion
deft badger
#

ty ❀️

vernal lion
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ok

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s1 or s2

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and which mod

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@deft badger

spark sinew
#

damn, i see how it is

glass monolith
#

huh, so 600 with robot stall is avoid both ALL ATK bs

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But duuuude squad 7 deploy 5, fuck that

vernal lion
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it's not deploy 5, check it again tho

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Kal with her monster

glass monolith
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I mean one of them you know what i mean

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30 score

deft badger
#

i love to see liskarm in use lol, there is no chance i survive that btw lol

vernal lion
#

ok but Saria s1 or s2, which mod?

deft badger
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i wanna camp right corner

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what do u think is better

vernal lion
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modX = heal more under 50% hp, +2sp per heal
modY = 15% DR

deft badger
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the plan is use blemi saria 2xST healer and mlynar

vernal lion
#

ok but what risk you pick

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you see that I don't pick any atk risk and the rocket still hurt af

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in term of dps

deft badger
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will screen u what i took there is a video on the top so that u see what my problem actually is πŸ˜„

glass monolith
deft badger
#

how do u add videos here

glass monolith
#

My phone seems to compress pretty well with Discord

deft badger
#

mlynar has to survive that's the only problem i have, i did try using blemis skill 2 sec later but she dies after the first hit of doro

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i have to send her skill the moment doro hits her

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doing s3m3 right now that will probably even fix that

spark sinew
deft badger
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that was yesterday with s3m0

spark sinew
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i'm curious why you didn't pick invis doro in some of the vids above

deft badger
#

m3 gives me 4sec+ duration

spark sinew
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but the way of blem s3 are unfamiliar to me

deft badger
#

but she is

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or did u watch some of the videos where i didn't add it

spark sinew
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some of the vids you sent above she wasn't yeah

deft badger
#

since i was trying first to see if i am going even to survive the gunners in first place with the 100 atk speed buff

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some of the test runs havent even been 600

solid dew
deft badger
#

i am going to add saria and skip on hoshi/skalter

spark sinew
#

i do wonder why my saria wasn't good enough for you

deft badger
#

just hope 2x ST healers blemi and saria can output enough healing so that they survive πŸ˜„

vernal lion
#

I think the main issue with my strat is RNG

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and splitbox

deft badger
#

in case i don't menage to do my corner camp have to try other ways.. but i lack healing like really really hard

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u have skalter saria and a boosted reed that is spamming her skills

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i can't heal that amounts

vernal lion
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because using healing only without attacking enemy for high risk is pretty much useless

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dps is important

deft badger
#

let me try ur saria s2 just don't know which mod

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will put saria where my blemi was, blemi where hoshi, mlynar same place

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saria can support mlynar blemi at the same time and blemi has them all in skill range

vernal lion
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if you pick atk risk, I recommend s1 instead tho

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she's on support now

deft badger
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will try later s1

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just worried since s1 doesn't have lumen in range

vernal lion
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lumen needs to survive 2 casters

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I saw he did it in your video

glass monolith
#

If there is something on right of robot casters will hit that next (if you didn't deploy ordered yourself RedOmegaLul ), and thanks god HP down risk doesn't exist here

vernal lion
#

let me guess,
you pick DP down 2, all HP up risks (except the ball), full atk up,
no CRAZY robot hp risk, no Dorothy -2 HP, no 1 HP seal,
banned left tiles, 7 deploy, and more robots?

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the 1000% HP bot risk and double atk risks are really conflicted

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not to say it spawn 1 bot earlier

hasty oxide
#

yea don't do the 1000% hp bot risk that's just griefing yourself

vernal lion
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but I did it myself

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I don't care now

hasty oxide
glass monolith
vernal lion
glass monolith
hasty oxide
#

how do you even start that, i feel like there's 1 or 2 tiles on the whole map that don't get nuked KEKW

vernal lion
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so you can have more vg

glass monolith
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I took 7 deploy because i don't fucking know how to play 5

glass monolith
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How do i scuff entire AH + Mlynar + 2 medics into 5?

vernal lion
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don't pick atk risk at all

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but HP is a pain again

hasty oxide
#

oh interesting it doesn't do that much dmg pepehmm guess if you don't take omega bot attack risks it works out better KEKW

glass monolith
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-90 score from no ATK risk, +50 from robot +20 from limit from 7 to 5 so uh.... Where do i get another 20? HellaKek

hasty oxide
#

friendly unit -15% attack?

glass monolith
#

My issue with POO i'm too dumb to find better set up

glass monolith
vernal lion
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and 7 op squad

glass monolith
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10 off still and i am not giving +150% HP to other shit HellaKek

vernal lion
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I did give +150% for casters tho

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still succeeded

glass monolith
#

I cooked, it worked, i'm off

vernal lion
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mind to do daily

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but I do love that 100 aspd risk

glass monolith
vernal lion
tidal sedge
#

Big brain

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AK Pro

spark sinew
#

@tidal sedgenothing to really add from 6*
thermex or castle can be useful
nearl is better than hoshi, if you can swap
standard texas/zima

vernal lion
spark sinew
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||also curious why you deleted your question||

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but i figured i can answer still, maybe it'll be useful

tidal sedge
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but thanks

vernal lion
#

I think Dr. Leon has the easiest PO strat for 600 score,
after him, there are Arkchive and Blemichi which is also good too

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and when I'm talking about easiest, I mean it doesn't need much limited op

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Oyuki has NTR, Sciel has Texalter, probably you will need to borrow or Mlynar or Skalter,
or maybe other

deft badger
#

wife left to work, children in the kindergarten, ready to play πŸ˜„

vernal lion
#

bruh

deft badger
#

is thata urs?

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only saria showing up

vernal lion
#

yes

deft badger
#

lets try s1 first

vernal lion
#

I pick modY so you can use her as a tanker too

sly drift
spark sinew
#

X is better here though

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πŸ€”

dark carbon
#

my biggest problem in pinch out is dp gen
a single myrtle cant keep up with the need while IM on -75%and I dont have elysium and texas still at e1
which one is better texas module or elysium ?

spark sinew
#

you asking which one to raise or to borrow

glass monolith
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You don't run single myrtle on -75% HellaHands

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Unless you Liskarm enjoyer or something

spark sinew
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i think single myrtle works fine

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i remember a lot of vids just running myrtle bag

dark carbon
#

no bagpipe so...

spark sinew
#

if you're borrowing, i think ines borrow might be better

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no advice on raising though, i'm not familiar with ely/texas sl7

tidal sedge
vernal lion
#

as expected, Texas and Yato ft. Specter making this boss as a joke

limpid siren
#

tag yourself

tidal sedge
long epoch
vernal lion
#

cope

glass monolith
limpid siren
#

tbh even i'm forgetting who is deployed

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i know there's like

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3 defenders

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and whatever dps i was trying for that run

tidal sedge
#

I see Bison and Nearl

glass monolith
#

Shamare, doll not deployed, Silence, drone deployed, Nearl, Ptilo S2 activated, and i see something looking like Bison

limpid siren
#

guess who

gleaming lodge
# limpid siren tag yourself

Lmao
Average block stall moment
I wish we had a way to check how many enemies are currently blocked on an operator

glass monolith
#

All of them

limpid siren
#

everything was going fine until i ran out of block count

gleaming lodge
#

Yeah right ?

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But it's impossible to count

tidal sedge
#

Also an easier way to see enemy statistics when these crowds occur

limpid siren
#

there should be 15 block count deployed there

gleaming lodge
#

Well, you have to do it mentally, the game doesn't help you

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Cute Vigna emote btw

limpid siren
#

i love watching an enemy slowly approach this clusterfuck and i'm like "i wonder if i have a blocker free"

long epoch
tidal sedge
#

One thing that annoys me when using Hibifier at times is popping s2 and find it killing 2 near-dead enemies because I can only see the hp of a healthy enemy so I get bad healing

vernal lion
#

Incantation medic moment

long epoch
tidal sedge
#

A timer?

long epoch
#

Well, the number on the left of HP is the number of remaining blocks.

gleaming lodge
#

Bruh that's unreadable

tidal sedge
#

Are those icons buffs/debuffs?

long epoch
#

Yea.

tidal sedge
#

That's a lot of those. Dang.

long epoch
#

Well, being Korean inflated Gacha. This is pretty normal. SkadiDaijoubu

tidal sedge
#

this is already okay but...

I will try another strat where I change Ptilo to a 6 star damage dealer

tidal sedge
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sometimes more than Chinese and Japan

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and iirc, Nexon is a company from that country, known for its greed

spark sinew
#

if anything, myrtle is easier to replace

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(not even sure if you need her though)
something like ines

tidal sedge
#

in sacrifice for Eyjalter

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Eyjalter is more important than Ines on my book

spark sinew
#

wandering medic disease

tidal sedge
#

I mean... I would rather have someone who can prevent me to get the annoying effects of them even I know some are neglible and counterable(but not with Corrosion in all honesty)

for a brain dead strat and full 6 star, she is the last I need

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that I actually need

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Ines? I can take her later, but Eyjalter, I would be eternally fucked up if not

spark sinew
#

i won't argue if ines or eyja are stronger, but i did you see very massively overrate honey (and make ED effects way scarier than they ever are) so i just got curious

tidal sedge
#

they are not belong to same roles

spark sinew
#

in a way
they're both very very good specialists

tidal sedge
#

I know some are neglible and counterable
This... You missed this...

spark sinew
#

to the point where they're so good, they turn into generalists

tidal sedge
#

yeah...

tidal sedge
#

the rest is eh?

spark sinew
#

i'm just curious why
did you have flashbacks from Under Tides or something

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and never experienced IS3 without elemental medic

tidal sedge
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nope, just imagine my characters be in DEF 0 is a no no

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and that ch 12 boss

spark sinew
#

because the effects on low difficulty are so slow it doesn't matter (and on high ones they're so fast it doesn't matter)

tidal sedge
spark sinew
#

figured as much yeah πŸ€”
well, been nice talking to you but gtg

latent monolith
#

Eyjalter is not just a good wandering medic

tidal sedge
#

to be honest once or twice its not that much but...

latent monolith
#

She's also a really good regular medic

spark sinew
tidal sedge
latent monolith
#

Her S1 has lumen S3 HPS but heals 2 allies instead of one and her S3 is a really good burst heal that also has global range

tidal sedge
spark sinew
tidal sedge
spark sinew
#

stage ends before that

tidal sedge
#

again, my playstyle is as braindead as it is, my strat are your generic strats

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not some kind of elite play or center on one thing and forget the rest

vernal lion
#

can't wait to see Lumen waste all his s3 for this dude

tidal sedge
#

TBH, I would inclined to bring Whisperain instead

latent monolith
spark sinew
#

is this the ZT one

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or LE

wicked viper
#

kreide is LE

tidal sedge
#

in case you are wondering, I am using the most common strat
dealers do the damage
tanks do the tanking
healers do the healing

sullen rover
#

you say its braindead but ive won d15 is3 with this type of strat

tidal sedge
#

hmmmm... noice

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I mean braindead means ultra easy, needs not too much of thinking, and stuff

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say if I ditch elemental healing, what will you tell me to use as substitute?

glass monolith
#

Strat is brain dead if you "just win d15" with it RedOmegaLul

sullen rover
#

true…

sullen rover
tidal sedge
#

I can tank the others but, you sure Corrosion with its perma def cut is ignorable?

sullen rover
#

yeah
just kill the enemies HellaKek

glass monolith
#

Most elemental damages in game are either: Too small to care. Too big to heal HellaKek

tidal sedge
sullen rover
#

if you desperately need a tank
cycle between them
like spot def 0 switch to cardi and repeat

sullen rover
#

wym

tidal sedge
#

I get it what you mean(I will just change to their 6 stars counterpart)

tidal sedge
#

Its harder, the stall is too long

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basically you can make the meme video of my Saria vs those two robots

vernal lion
#

just leak

tidal sedge
#

I only leak Dorothy

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I won't leak the robots

vernal lion
tropic valve
#

hey Mlynar survived

plucky flint
#

Why do I remember EoE from that thing

jovial nest
#

ele dmg procs so fast you shouldn't bother

jovial nest
#

cause Izumik has not fed at all and yet that damage...

spark sinew
glass monolith
#

He literally explains that he means with follow up message

#

No point in elemental healer when elemental bar fills faster than medic does healing animation HellaHands

spark sinew
#

wasn't my question
my question was, why add the point about high difficulty

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because I was talking about low diff...

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I'm well aware how useless elemental healers are

spark sinew
vernal lion
#

almost 4k burst dmg

jovial nest
#

actually

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there is....

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relevance in wandering medics for IS3 high diff

#

it just has to be Eyjaberry S2 though

spark sinew
#

wouldn't waste 10 hope on her

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i calced, on stuff like Ubi her s2 shield is still not great

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multiple flowers will pop it very quickly

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just draft suzu/mosti instead

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they're also way less susceptible to metastatic

vernal lion
#

leak: 51 (and +1 later)
kill: 0/41

glass monolith
#

And this is why i don't play IS3

sullen rover
#

nice job team

deft badger
#

does someone have nian s3m3?

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i think nian is the way xD

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i just ulty when doro comes back and go afk

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no chance mlynar or blemi die when her skill is on

spark sinew
#

πŸ€”

deft badger
#

do u have one?

spark sinew
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how would nian help uncle though

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does she have taunt

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i already forgot

deft badger
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1 i can start blemi skill when she is in my team don't have to do before she hits

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i have to start the skill before doro is back to kill one wolf since the other inc will leak

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which results in mlynar dying

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blemi of skill he is dead

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that's where nian comes in 45sec buff

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i just start with nian when doro is 3 tiles away from blemi

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then when she is at blemi i start blemi skill

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blemi will hold 4 adds mlynar starts skill and its over

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doro leaks from there its all easy

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  • mlynar gets 80% more def takes less dmg and blemi can heal him till doro is gone
glass monolith
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So it works, right?

spark sinew
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when second mech shows up your rangeds will probably die

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I'm typing it just for the future, to say "told you so" later

spark sinew
deft badger
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TexasHyper ...

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naga has probably one, dude has like every op u can have πŸ˜„

turbid badge
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use sil alter

deft badger
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10 sec

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doro walks around my mlynar like 35-40

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more like 27-30

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still doesn't fit the 10sec

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pff i could try actually

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when blemis skill is over i can use silence

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so nian, silence or i just 10hours and i will pass it anyway since s3m3 blemi will be ready πŸ˜„

glass monolith
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All that cooking he does.... And i just used Silence alter + Ptilo TexasHyper

eager gate
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You've been experimentign with dr for like a year now aren't you

glass monolith
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H11, H12, and now this piece of garbage HellaKek

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See you next time when that shit is relevant in Jessalter

eager gate
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ur now a middle dr specialist

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They're just a jun cut em some slack

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damnit Jessica's event going to be stalling with Skadi again?

limpid siren
glass monolith
deft badger
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i am already worried lol

glass monolith
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Didn't had any issues with that BlitzSmile

deft badger
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ok she died to something i don't even know to what

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lol

weak gazelle
limpid siren
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570

glass monolith
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My run had deploy of baits right after her so she never targeted

limpid siren
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i could leak 2 robots and dorothy, but then it'd be 560

glass monolith
limpid siren
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i can't take any generic atk risk

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or my entire squad explodes as soon as dorothy gets close

plucky flint
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How are u even killing those mobs FoliWorried

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Can't see the deployed ones on ground except quaso and manti

weak gazelle
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i see
i experienced that first hand
this doro easily delete my team within 3 secFiaDed