strategy

[turbid badge]

whz

[latent anvil]

Kugi

[turbid badge]

kugi

omg

[latent anvil]

Why you have one more ops than me rn

[turbid badge]

two

actially

[latent anvil]

I just bought one

So one

[turbid badge]

it didnt update

[crisp bolt]

max pot ethan

[latent anvil]

[spark sinew]

2 puddings

was i actually talking to a psychopath

[turbid badge]

are u missing any 5 stars

i have no cement

or humus

[vernal lion]

I need to test Weedy Yato combo

[turbid badge]

oh id never be able to get broca

[spark sinew]

quartz

[turbid badge]

unless lucky in recruit or pull on blue banner or waste certs

[spark sinew]

pudding is a maybe

[turbid badge]

[spark sinew]

well quartz is also a maybe ig
although if you're asking, you don't have good base ops raised

[vernal lion]

just cope

[turbid badge]

wtf my base hate me

everything except broca cement proviso

[vernal lion]

it's been 2 years

[spark sinew]

cement bad anyway

no proviso is big F

[latent anvil]

I no cement

And also idk how I'm gonna get my yr 1 ops I'm missing

[turbid badge]

wgz whale

u bought pallas rite

[latent anvil]

Broke

Irl

Ye bought paslla

[spark sinew]

you can get selector for older 5*

[turbid badge]

i didnt swire enough for me

[latent anvil]

Idc old 5*

But I'm missing so many old 6 star

[spark sinew]

how

[turbid badge]

hiw

[latent anvil]

I'm new player fr

[turbid badge]

i have all in recruitment

[spark sinew]

just get them in recruit ig

unless it's ange eyja

[turbid badge]

i feel bad when i get top op cuz its just gonna be op

Pot

[latent anvil]

Don't have ange

[spark sinew]

i was considering using selector for iris

[turbid badge]

im sad cuz i cant get ange pot 6

[spark sinew]

juicy 2% production

[turbid badge]

shes pot 5

[spark sinew]

so far selector is still here, gathering dust

[latent anvil]

Selector nian

[turbid badge]

selector W

[latent anvil]

Selector W for a 40% to on hoeder

[turbid badge]

wtf ur missing kay

[spark sinew]

could've bought her or used the no dupe banner for guarantee but like why

it was also before the kernel

[turbid badge]

how much increase in angeina pot6v

me when i did 66 aspd for gnosis

aak not enough

[spark sinew]

40% is ew tho

we already have more than enough 40/41% workers

even more if you count bad setups
oh, vigil is not 40% for you

[near hornet]

I tried ur strategy
Still won't work

Any other plans

[spark sinew]

what team did you use

[latent anvil]

He is for me, and also I wasn't being serious (well i dont use him in tp but he would be 40%)

[spark sinew]

outside of the dorm showcase channel i prefer not to assume
even if i know you frequent that one

[near hornet]

Uhh brb

[near hornet]

I use lin ,yater and gladia to kill the robots

[cosmic thicket]

lin makes sense

[vernal lion]

Lin and Phantom s3, and all bots get killed

[spark sinew]

that still leaves us 9 slots, and you also didn't mention what exactly failed

[near hornet]

I have phantom but he's e1

[vernal lion]

that's why I said s3

[near hornet]

yes

[spark sinew]

borrow weedy and he's not really needed

she can push the mechs

[near hornet]

I tried but won't work

[deft badger]

S stages ain't hard enough...

[spark sinew]

the map has several things you want to answer - the initial rocket mechs, boss stage 1 and how to defend the lanes from the punchy mechs

[near hornet]

Only for u

[deft badger]

am nope

[vernal lion]

I didn't build Phantom, so I use Weedy, Gladiia and Texas instead

[near hornet]

I don't have weedy or gladia

Or texalter

[vernal lion]

just use goddamn guide on Yt tho

[near hornet]

I DID

[spark sinew]

if you borrow/have weedy just push the mechs, it 100% works, and then kill them with something (i heard lin works?)
second part is the boss
spawnkilling her or just camping the balls she will take over and killing it in less than 30 seconds works for phase 1

[near hornet]

THEY WONT WORK ETHER

[vernal lion]

then it's your issue

[near hornet]

[spark sinew]

you really should say something more than "this doesn't work"

like what exactly didn't work?

[vernal lion]

did you suppose to say S stage is EASY to clear???

[spark sinew]

where do you come up short?

[deft badger]

S stages should be hard so that u have to micro-menage the hell out of the stages even with six stars which here isn't the case so nvm

[spark sinew]

is it weedy that can't push the mech?

[near hornet]

Yeh

[vernal lion]

which level of that skill is?

[spark sinew]

don't put it close to the ball

or push ball down with switch

[vernal lion]

ball has taunt if you deploy your op right in front of it

[deft badger]

which of ifrits skills has the highest dmg output?

s3?

[spark sinew]

i wonder what's the context for it

[vernal lion]

s2 ofc

[spark sinew]

but yes i'm sure it's s3 anyway

unless it's something janky like -90% sp regen

[deft badger]

like dps.. s2 isn't bursty

[vernal lion]

if you say her sp talent isn't for s2, you're gonna be kidding me

[spark sinew]

it should be s3
but what you're trying to do, just curious

[vernal lion]

2 sp per 6 seconds, or 1 sp per 3 seconds, almost same to Ch'en

[spark sinew]

i believe module still doesn't change the fact that s3 does more

at least last i heard

also idk if you should even use modules on ifrit

[deft badger]

i will m6 her anyway

[spark sinew]

it's 2023

[deft badger]

i don't care she is nice 😄

[spark sinew]

idk ifrit is weird

i would probably do s2m1 and then s3 if you really want

but your resources is yours to waste use

[deft badger]

that's what they sugest lol

[spark sinew]

listen to them then

if not trusting me

[deft badger]

bro what do u mean

u told me the same thing right now 😄

do s2m1 then m3 her s3

[spark sinew]

yeah we're in agreement here
that's why i say even if you don't trust me, just trust the guide or whatever this ss is from

[deft badger]

i like her res shred, i know casters are not meta still i kinder like them more then guards

[spark sinew]

her res shred is super powerful

[deft badger]

p.dmg

arts kinder out of meta

and i don't have ranged ops anyway

[spark sinew]

hg been pushing arts forever lately though

[vernal lion]

trust me, you only use Ifrit if there's Ifrit lane

[deft badger]

thats the reason i wanted to m3 her s3 as well

since if there isn't a lane for her s2 well i can take the s3

[spark sinew]

if you want honest opinion

[vernal lion]

and how many maps did have Ifrit lane?

[spark sinew]

i saw your acc

you can just do s2m1 and forget her

this is coming from a guy that did this

[deft badger]

but eyja ifrit texas surtr combo i wanna try it xD hahaha

[spark sinew]

just texas surtr kill everything

[deft badger]

btw does her s3 hit fliers?

[spark sinew]

texas + ifrit is also overkill res shred

[vernal lion]

Surtr just kill everything

[spark sinew]

lol, no

[vernal lion]

just debuff

[spark sinew]

it does not

it doesn't even debuff

[vernal lion]

ground enemies

clearly said

[deft badger]

didn't even read all of it my eyes have been on the ignor 20 res part 😄

[polar crane]

the talent debuff still work

[deft badger]

rat is next anyway...

[spark sinew]

typical yostar localization...

[deft badger]

ifrit gets her e2 in a couple min...

[spark sinew]

that's what bad base does to people

[deft badger]

when it comes to mostima i have to think about htat lol

[deft badger]

its not about the base trust me

[spark sinew]

it looks like it is
everyone lvl1

[deft badger]

7 ops in the past 3 or 4 weeks e2

actually 8 ifrit is 9

[spark sinew]

even stainless with s3 default is still e2 1

i mean i don't have a backlog so my numbers is lower ig

[deft badger]

well i did lower the number then i got yesterday ifrit and hoshi

[spark sinew]

the only non e2 6* but it's mostly out of principle

[latent anvil]

my base sucks

[spark sinew]

god knows i have enough to max them all and then have some

[spark sinew]

because you're not 333

[latent anvil]

i was, like 1.5 yr ago or something

[spark sinew]

you don't have the blessing of HG for using the best base

see, you lost the favor of the gods

[deft badger]

now i have ifrit rat hoshi fia weedy on the list to e2, exe inc so he is going to push them all down and be prio target for e2 if i keep rolling like stupid i am going to add couple more so yeah..

[spark sinew]

repent and go back to 333 to regain it

[deft badger]

its to late to fix my base

[spark sinew]

never too late

but the damage is done (i'm the same way)

WGZ should be as well, if he was 333

[deft badger]

meh i don't care i am not in a rush

[spark sinew]

scuffed prod numbers because i overcap my base

but it should still be significantly more than the above 243

[latent anvil]

3/3/3 propaganda

(it's not 3/3/3)

[spark sinew]

nice 252 MR

are you doing cursed prov?

[deft badger]

that shows how much i care about the base

[spark sinew]

the same average lmd as me, but you're using eben and whisp

it shows how much exp and lmd you're missing out on, yes

[latent anvil]

No

[spark sinew]

but idc about helping other people to fix their base, if they don't want to help themselves, so let us drop this convo

[deft badger]

do u wanna know something else 😄

i don't have base slaves lol

[spark sinew]

i was going to say "no"

[deft badger]

neither do i care to read a guide how to menage ops and rotations

[spark sinew]

cause i don't want to know anything more about the base above

[glass monolith]

You cared to place trust gain ops, i had Jessica locked in there for like 3 months

[deft badger]

bro thats the only thing i care about

[spark sinew]

[deft badger]

the only reason i go in is to look at the trust

[spark sinew]

i want to be cursed as well, then

[still cipher]

Can anyone please help me with clearing CW-EX 8 I’ve been trying to use a guide but for some reason it doesn’t work

This is my squad

[spark sinew]

those gold numbers are higher than they were for me pre CY

[deft badger]

all my lvld low stars fit in to one pic btw not even if perfumer wouldn't be somewhere to the right it would be half of a pic

so ifrit module isn't that important i can go for blemis first...

[spark sinew]

[deft badger]

just asking since then i am going to put blemi to get more trust

[deft badger]

blemi did carry h12-4 just fine since i don't own saria

wanna get her the 15% DR

from the module then she can sit on the bench till i need her again

[latent anvil]

i dont use sail

[spark sinew]

i don't have sail

[latent anvil]

i can tell you what i use if you want

[spark sinew]

is this also dead lancet? cause i don't use it for reasons i said before

[spark sinew]

also someone help here

[deft badger]

u did the stage as well.. so

[spark sinew]

i bruteforced ex8

because i have good base so i have a lot of options to use 🏃‍♂️

[latent anvil]

yea, its exodia + eun amiya in cc for as long as possible, and i full rotate entire base with hardly any staggering, i just work best teams for as long as possible separately

[deft badger]

can reed s2 and texas s2 kick p1?

in ex 8

[spark sinew]

what guide did you use
i think worst case scenario you can try to stall the boss until balls despawn

something like weedy on the left side should hold, especially with the help of texas yato

[deft badger]

doesn't have to they are going to nuke her away with chalter reed texas in p2

but i don't know if they have mastery on them to kill her in p1

[spark sinew]

why would you nuke the boss...

What does this accomplish

[deft badger]

in p1 not having to deal with stars

[spark sinew]

even if you do nuke the boss, now you want to stall phase 2

[crisp bolt]

Stalling phase 1 is slow and annoying

[vernal lion]

this shit goes hard

[deft badger]

no, just nuke her take out stars and w8 for her on the left side with chalter reed texas

cw-ex-8

only reason i nuke her on the start is that i don't wanna deal with her spawning stars

[vernal lion]

why stalling phase 2 when you can just kill

[spark sinew]

levels look a bit low

[deft badger]

i think he misunderstood me or was thinking about s4

[spark sinew]

also you open up another lane if you do that

which is terrible if you can't hold it

[deft badger]

u don't

u leave just one star

if u have button up then u leave the star on bot

[deft badger]

if u use button down u leave the star on top

[spark sinew]

are you aware that killing kristen will open up all stars...

[deft badger]

i don't have a ex video

[spark sinew]

was talking to Naga

[deft badger]

actually i do have a ex video

i don't have a cm video

[vernal lion]

do you think I will let her alive

saw that Waai Fu s2 ?

[spark sinew]

but this was addressed to Unknown

cause i mixed up who said what

[deft badger]

watch it pls 😄

nothing leaks there

[spark sinew]

anyway, the "strat" of nuking kristen won't help the guy here

[deft badger]

do the same without surtr in cm

thats the wrong video 😄

[spark sinew]

it's actually very hard to play the stage if you nuke her phase 2 even if you could 🤔

[vernal lion]

and this is the strat with less efficiency that I spent for this ex-8

[deft badger]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKap5_ReOIw&t=4s

there

[vernal lion]

both EX-8 and S-4 have 3 op clear

[deft badger]

ignore the song, my child was next to me watching his lalelu on the tv xD

[vernal lion]

you can just mute when recording

[spark sinew]

ex8 is 2 op

[vernal lion]

Ling and Texas?

[spark sinew]

challenge or regular

[vernal lion]

both

[spark sinew]

regular has shitton 2 ops

challenge is ling skalter only

[vernal lion]

skalter s1 ?

[spark sinew]

yes

[vernal lion]

interesting

I don't have time to try these strats

[deft badger]

ain't using ling

know only the texas weedy kal for cm

[vernal lion]

there's always a thing about these strats:
if you kill balls, your Ling will die (even with Skalter)

[deft badger]

but i don't have a e2 weedy my is kinder trash fighting them and no kal 😄

i was even to lazy to bring a 3 block for the right side

[spark sinew]

why would she

oh, you mean not skalter strats

[vernal lion]

even with Skalter too

[spark sinew]

with skalter you easily tank 🤔

[vernal lion]

you don't have enough summon to spare for each ball

[deft badger]

how do they do it then?

[vernal lion]

I don't spoil now by watching them

but I pretty sure it's possible

[spark sinew]

they kill balls

||unexpected i know ||

[vernal lion]

you can kill 2 balls

[deft badger]

anyway 2 op tells a lot about the event

[vernal lion]

but not 3

[spark sinew]

i mean you could spoil yourself and just see what they do

[vernal lion]

expect that you can burst p1 without a spawned ball

[spark sinew]

or you want the link?

[vernal lion]

nope

[deft badger]

i want it 😄

but not with texas

[vernal lion]

I don't need to watch

[spark sinew]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV19M4y147rW/

ling skalter challenge

[vernal lion]

I have strategy inside me

[spark sinew]

another one, ling skalter
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1fT41147Me/
idk why arkrec has both, maybe different strats?

i'll be honest i didn't watch the second one and skimmed through first one

very funny/impressive how strong the healing is, i forgot how ridiculous skalter s1 was

[vernal lion]

I wouldn't mind about this boss because she's piss easy anyway

[deft badger]

ahh i though she is going to die to 2 balls...

[vernal lion]

the issue is always from mob

you can just stall her till the end and kill every ball,
then later you burst her p1 and kill all balls of p2 and kill her p2 again and done

this boss is anti burst dmg

[spark sinew]

bump

[deft badger]

didn't respond since then

probably already finished it 😄

[spark sinew]

hopefully

[vernal lion]

bro is playing ed2 IS3 in CW

[cyan gorge]

22 hours

[lethal dragon]

44 hours

[vernal lion]

I believe she's only taken 2,5% of dmg

so it's ~16 dmg

[crisp bolt]

44 hour run

[vernal lion]

ok the values from that image is correct

without 40% def ignore, it took x2 times to kill Kristen with E0

jesus

actually I should devide for 2 because of 40% def ignore

mistake

[vernal lion]

btw bro needs 1 TB to record that 22 hours run tho

[glass monolith]

Wait we go into rerun without downtime

[still cipher]

Unfortunately I haven’t I’ve just been trying over and over again

[still cipher]

I used kyostinv guide, all the other guides on YouTube in english have like ridiculously strong operators I can’t get rn

[cosmic thicket]

If not CM: bring myrtle ines s2 texalter yato alter (s3 and s2), weedy s2, chalter, pozy, hoshi, silence, surtr, ptilo/sus, and whoever

borrow someone to kill phase 1 of boss quickly

oh actually ethan is a great addition since he can melt the defenders, however it's usually preferable to leave just 1 alive to abuse the killgate

https://youtu.be/PnJwCWzIFn0?feature=shared i uploaded a video showing one possible way of clearing it (it's really shitty as a guide though, just lift out the main ideas of killing phase 1 fast, abusing the killgate, and stalling boss with a defender + medic)

weedy s2 can hold left very well, just make sure the balls are locked in the same position as the video and don't unlock them

[peak cloak]

Spawn kill. gg

[spark sinew]

god the thumbnail

[glass monolith]

When options are spawn kill or suffer, i will go first one

[spark sinew]

thankfully no one did warf like that yet

[tidal sedge]

Smh not stalling for 999 seconds

[spark sinew]

she still has torso here, no?

[cosmic thicket]

I was gonna do it for the thumbnail but her sprite is so aids to edit and I was in a rush

does he know

[spark sinew]

I'm not sure what you meant initially, yeah

what did you think i was saying

[cosmic thicket]

I don't think that's what hauck meant

[spark sinew]

truly horrifying concept yeah
we're in a gacha server after all

i still have no idea what your image was supposed to convey

[glass monolith]

[spark sinew]

something horny i assume

from the messages you sent after that

but I'm actually at a loss

[glass monolith]

Fucking warf placement because i didn't got what you meant fuck you

[spark sinew]

so aggressive

that's usually my shtick

[cosmic thicket]

launcher robots are a lot less annoying if you're blocking them since they do full damage to that one target instead, so basically by deploying a gravel on a launcher you buy yourself a good amount of time to setup

[glass monolith]

And how much it buys you? 8 seconds?

[wide sail]

easiest way for me is just to instantly nuke the rocket gundams with surtr or mlynar

[cosmic thicket]

good enough for a low end squad honestly

[fiery marsh]

Just mylnar It indeed

[timid spade]

Eyja can also kill the initial robots pretty quickly, but she'll need a burst medic like ptilo or sussurro to survive long enough

[spark sinew]

put weedy

use her device to push the bottom left rocket guy to the right

deploy ptilo above weedy (on the UP button)

use surtr facing top to nuke the rocket guys

that's exactly what i did in my run

[pallid veldt]

CW S 4 experience

[unkempt lintel]

maaan cw s 4 bring hell aint it?

[peak cloak]

i know it will trigger you, but ask yourself why u have to try so hard, to prove something that no one cares?
got mad over a game like Arknights, is it sounds cool, innit?

i know i know, however, every event has its own rerun around 6 months - 1 year so why not skip that hard one and then do it later with better ops and prepared strats?

second, u used guides on youtube which sometimes wont be as same as your own situations

if u tried your, then failed, u should proud of it. vice versa. in this case u tried follow guides, what is the point of raging then? not even your strats.

myself as a mid game player (lvl 81), i dont even care to touch hard stages many times ,one is enough , better spend time to works, gym, cycling, family, my farm and with a siberian husky, much more

and just want to note u with a well known english quote, "keep calm and carry on."

[fiery marsh]

I certanly dont know what you are doing wrong so

Whats the problem, mylnar dying in the beggining?

I did with like, this:

Ceobe pretty good in this event btw

[unkempt lintel]

yeah thaat... i also do healer to keep mlynar alive coz he cant take missiles

well arts dmge rly good at that stage coz most of em have low res...

[fiery marsh]

And high Def, ceobe paradise

[plucky flint]

Wondering how are u failing a guide if you're following it to a T

[spark sinew]

i think your team is pretty much the same as mine, -warf -ifrit
i used and he honestly was awesome
do you have aak, are you bursting the boss 1st phase or stalling?
with this event you don't necessarily need specific guides if you got the ops to skip some stuff (like 2 pushers invalidating the big punchy robots for example)

[unkempt lintel]

yeah i also messed up when copying guides.... so the least i can do back then is to improvise, well more like to adapt on what guides do in certain stages

[spark sinew]

if we can figure the moment where stuff falls apart, then we can see what we can do to prevent it

[peak cloak]

and all up to u. i will give u a thing that i've kept using since the beginning:
before any events, i open youtube and watch videos from cn players to know about mobs and where/what they are going/doing then create my own strats with my current ops and their strenght.

if u found it useful, u can use it. guides on youtube usually give me bad results so i make my own.

[spark sinew]

like, shouldn't weedy just push them forever, what happened?

[fiery marsh]

Yeah dont makes Sense, Shaw did It forever without problems in my run

[peak cloak]

lvl 120 and couldnt beat that easy stage?

[unkempt lintel]

get gud....

nah jk hahahah just take a rest and refill ur sanity irl

[tropic valve]

definitely get some rest, you think better strats that way

[peak cloak]

may the schwarz god save him.

[unkempt lintel]

[fiery marsh]

Why you was the good Guy and instantly became evil? 💀

[tidal sedge]

Bros issue is using guides for fun

[peak cloak]

i can be both, what is the matter?

[fiery marsh]

Just found it funny

[spark sinew]

was he ever a good guy

[tropic valve]

if you still wanna do it after you wake up but before the event ends (maybe 8 or so hours from now), I'm down to do a handhold over vc

[peak cloak]

i mean, i prepared for event stages 4 weeks ago. which means when stages dropped, i just walked-through no problems

[unkempt lintel]

wow hand holding

[spark sinew]

spoiling the stages for yourself before even starting event is a bit too much i feel

[fiery marsh]

So lewd

[unkempt lintel]

btw sn should be walk in a park with all the avail ops yeah?

[plucky flint]

How tf u prepared for event stages when they're not even released

[peak cloak]

youtube videos from cn

[tidal sedge]

Beta server is 6months ahead

[spark sinew]

he also skipped all ex and S stages

[peak cloak]

[spark sinew]

so like

[plucky flint]

[spark sinew]

"walked through no problems"

anyway, i should stop, my bad

[vernal lion]

what robot

[fiery marsh]

lin gaming

[vernal lion]

should do that by Lin and Phantom s3, but god I don't have anyone with Phantom s3 as support lol

[unkempt lintel]

must be nice to have weedy.... all i can do is line up ranged gundam with boss, via gladiia, so i can just surtr it

[tidal sedge]

Thats seems like alot of extra effort tbh

[peak cloak]

i didnt skip tho😅.

[fiery marsh]

We know when Gladia RR btw?

[spark sinew]

either i misread or you edited the comment
either way that's my bad, too aggressive, sorry

[fiery marsh]

I want unleash Full Power of my m6 mod 6 spalter

[spark sinew]

can do this with phantom, phantom > yato surely

[tropic valve]

yato fell off

[spark sinew]

in my clear he also pushes balls in good positions and robots away from mlynar
so good honestly and then he fades into irrelevance again

can get some use on SN rerun at least

[tropic valve]

I also got use out of Phantom in RA

2 scouts in 1

[unkempt lintel]

my phantom just sit in my roster.....

staring at wilderness, while shouting UTAAEEE

but yeah ive seen phantom plays in cw s 4, which is pretty neat

[vernal lion]

you can just play the stage like a normal person,
step 1, deploy vg
step 2, deploy every op, and kill everything
step 3, win

[tidal sedge]

I found a vg to be pretty superfluous with how slow the mobs spawn

[spark sinew]

kinda need a vanguard if you want to nuke the boss until it stepped to the middle

[vernal lion]

they won't, if you do fast setup

[peak cloak]

need more proofs?

[vernal lion]

to burst boss

[spark sinew]

otherwise you need to not deploy anything on the up button

[vernal lion]

or you can just kill all mobs, kill ball everytime and stall her p1 till last

about rocket car, you can just use caster and a slow supporter tho

it's not that hard to kill

[fiery marsh]

I stalled the robot of the kill gate with shawn until i killed Kristen, so i wouldnt need to worry about other mobs 👍

[tidal sedge]

I guess it's because I stalled her p1 ye

[spark sinew]

uhh
in hindsight you can just put your operator to the side

[vernal lion]

you don't even care about boss if you stall her p1 eternally while killing her ball

[spark sinew]

although that would require way more investment in dps department, or multiple deploys

[eager turtle]

what are these? i can't do anything on then? just watch it fail?

[cosmic thicket]

click on the tiles to move the ball

they mentioned this in the tutorial

[vernal lion]

have you even read?

[eager turtle]

im on emulator, it was't working well

[plucky flint]

[spark sinew]

try x1 speed probably

[vernal lion]

1. you touch the tile you want to move the ball, but the ball will fall to the same gravity direction
2. you can push enemy or kill them with ball

[fiery marsh]

Just hit them with your balls

[bold lance]

Doctor only gets one ball

[vernal lion]

good luck, I don't care about CW for now

time to hop on SN

[fringe jackal]

I can beat CW but I still can't beat H12-4

[fiery marsh]

H12-4 was probally harder tbh

But idk, now i have spalter and she played a important role in my CW runs

[vernal lion]

I hate to say but H12-4 is only hard if you stall the boss for too long

it's truly anti to those who play stalling strat

[tropic valve]

I'd say H12-4 is harder overall just because you can't push cheese

[vernal lion]

I also figure out that you can play H12-4 in many ways

you will always start with 20 DP, and there's 2 boxes

[fiery marsh]

But the Boss has like 4 immunity stages? The First answer that came to my mind is stall

[vernal lion]

so 30 DP is capped until mid time that you can get more

[vernal lion]

yes, but I did say "stall the boss for too long"

[fiery marsh]

En cant read moment

[vernal lion]

not to mention, the 2 flying shits are really annoying here because making wrong placement and your defense is done

[fringe jackal]

it also seems like Mr Hoederer was specifically created to deal with Damazti's bullshit\

the defence reduction is just painful

[livid delta]

What is corrosion to a 0-def unit

[cosmic thicket]

H12-4 is significantly harder

[sly drift]

H12-4 is objectively hardest stage so far.

[deft badger]

not really, texas s3 works miracles
spend 2 days trying trying at the end i did just have to drop texas to fix my healing problems

[plucky flint]

What do you think the hardest stage is

[turbid badge]

whos skill os that

ice shard

[full finch]

it's gnosis S1

[turbid badge]

oh it is gnosis

[eager turtle]

i'm on Cw-ex-8 hard, i'm following Kyos guide, but the timing is a lot diferent on my runs, idk what to do,

[tidal sedge]

But why is timing different

[turbid badge]

cuz not carbon copy?

[eager turtle]

everyting goes fine, until the boss leaves, and then the mobs they don't come, then they all come together with the boss

[tidal sedge]

I suc with LT mechanics, so idk if kristen even has this. But some bosses phase change gates the enemies from spawning. So if kyo kills the boss 1st phase earlier than you, he might not be spawning the rest of mobs until kristen dies

Thats all I got

[tropic valve]

Emergency Water and Fire Union D15

[tidal sedge]

Isnt it always emergency

[tropic valve]

it sure can feel that way

[tidal sedge]

Thats not what I mean lol. I have just never paid attention to f6 being an emergency or normal so is it just random or somthing

[deft badger]

i don't know.. but u try and try then u realize u need that one op which is going to change everything
they are all made so that u can do them its just our understanding that limits us
i think cc9 was the hardest for me till now xD

[tropic valve]

it's random but the emergency chance is higher than other floors I think

[deft badger]

i spend like 60 hours on cc9 till i did menage to get the timing right one time 😄

[crystal cargo]

ive never beaten that stage ngl

i got steamrolled by volcano things

and i dont even do d15

[crisp bolt]

slowly I'm making my way

[fluid sail]

my first 6 or so times reaching f6 I got emergency so I thought that normal didn’t exist

[plucky flint]

Is this the double Pompeii?

[tropic valve]

tbh even at D0 it's not trivial

[crisp bolt]

my problem is I don't have my 4*/5*'s built

[tropic valve]

got Krooster built or planning to build soon?

[crisp bolt]

planning to build soon

she took a bit of a hit in priority when I got mlynar

[weak gazelle]

ahh...
double pompeii map, that one really cancer yeah

[crisp bolt]

yeah pompeii is pain

[tidal sedge]

The rockets and mobs around them don't spawn until phase 1 death ye

[crisp bolt]

is there a list anywhere for 4* and 5* ops that are useful in IS3?

[weak gazelle]

5* are easy to spot
krooster, highmore, erato, mayer, mr.nothing

[crisp bolt]

fair

I haven't done mayer yet but I got e1 erato and mr. nothing atm

[tropic valve]

4*: May, Ethan mainly, can also consider Deepcolor, Perfumer, Gravel, Gummy, Humus

[crisp bolt]

remind myself to build perfumer one day

[weak gazelle]

totter not that useful for IS?

[tropic valve]

also add Tequila to 5*

oh Totter as well

[crisp bolt]

yeah I really like Totter

[weak gazelle]

teq uhhh
idk, when a lot ppl have horse uncle

[cosmic thicket]

i use tequila bc i have no horse man

[cyan gorge]

Cutter, Deepcolor, Ethan, and May are the main 4*s I bring

[cosmic thicket]

but 3 hope broodling bait with a good burst skill is not completely horrible, definitely makes good use of the guard ticket

[fringe jackal]

Tequila is a great base slave

[crisp bolt]

I'm still a ways away though on getting to high diff

just got to d4

[weak gazelle]

so you are part of minority

[crisp bolt]

you can still unga bunga at this diff

[weak gazelle]

oh forgot to mention cliff and firewhistle

[tropic valve]

tequila still worth even if you have horse uncle, in fact sometimes I take tequila over horse uncle at 7 Hope

[crisp bolt]

ah yeah pullers are really fun

[cyan gorge]

Cliff in partular is good

[crisp bolt]

does it need masteries/module though?

[weak gazelle]

yeah IS ticket are rng
with that in mind having teq built ready is good option too

[cyan gorge]

I think the only 5*s I frequently take are Kazemaru, Mr. Nothing, Erato, Cliff, and Quercus

[turbid badge]

wtf

[crisp bolt]

I don't play is3 much

[weak gazelle]

be glad liberator are most cracked archetype

[crisp bolt]

I was instead trying to work on getting full completion on is2

[turbid badge]

cliff stun

[crisp bolt]

I forgot s2 stunned

[cyan gorge]

Cliff can do her job at e1

[cosmic thicket]

ye

[tropic valve]

true

[cosmic thicket]

i think the 5* i took the most when i was doing high diff were ptilo, highmore, tequila, canta, krooster, shamare, sometimes april

[cyan gorge]

I raised Teq for base, maybe I should give him masteries

[cosmic thicket]

s2 masteries are kind of meh gains

[crisp bolt]

I was planning to raise teq for base as well

[cosmic thicket]

200% atk scale -> 230% with an extra like 2 initial sp

[crisp bolt]

but I was going to wait until I got shamare built

[turbid badge]

i like brunging blacknight and liskarm

[tropic valve]

yeah Tequila S2 gains are low

that said I still gave him S2M3

because he gets used so often that it justifies it

[turbid badge]

gamer

[crisp bolt]

which difficulty am I going to start struggling at? d7?

[turbid badge]

tequila doesnt hit air right?

[crisp bolt]

no don't think so

[tropic valve]

correct, no air

[cosmic thicket]

i'll do it when im fine with giving up trading post profits for the day

[tropic valve]

which isn't a big deal for me since my comp is usually made up of Snipers

[turbid badge]

im on a surplus on lmd that i do modules but cant level ops

[crisp bolt]

schwarz player indeed

[turbid badge]

i finally gave jieyun her module

forgot how slow she attacked cuz aoe sniper

(offensive charge)

[cyan gorge]

The only reason I haven't given Mr. Nothing masteries yet

[turbid badge]

me no cheeto

[crisp bolt]

what I really want is the buff to mind over matter squad so I can do fun stuff there

[tropic valve]

relatable, one day I'll do Proviso masteries fr

[cyan gorge]

d7 is still pretty easy, personally I started struggling around d10 or 11

[turbid badge]

lol

[cosmic thicket]

yeah

i thought d8+ was gonna be hard but it was mostly just mental block

[turbid badge]

i have to probable retire chong soon so i can do his s2 masteries

[tropic valve]

that checks out, d11 has a pretty significant stat increase

[turbid badge]

[cosmic thicket]

i started struggling around d11-12

[tropic valve]

the good news is if you beat d11, you can probably beat d14

[strange fable]

Like d10 ish

[cyan gorge]

I gave up on doing 15

[dark glade]

heh d15 not that bad

then you get ooc

[cyan gorge]

I got really close yesterday, but boss wiped me

[weak gazelle]

the difficulty jump start at D11

[crisp bolt]

yeah I hate emergency OOC

[cosmic thicket]

i was able to do d15 twice but i can't do it consistently

[strange fable]

Protip: dodge floor 5 emergencies

[cosmic thicket]

at high diff yeah

but at low diff u can definitely take them with no issues

[crisp bolt]

yeah

[tropic valve]

most of the other F5 emergencies are more or less ok though

emergency Ubi sucks if you don't have a way to kill 2 Originiutants

and they break the rubble

[strange fable]

emergency the spread:

[weak gazelle]

ahh beloved ubi bona somnia

[strange fable]

the spread > ooc fr fr

[tropic valve]

so true

[weak gazelle]

spread uhh... which one again that map?

[tropic valve]

nethersea brand map

[vernal lion]

map with full of nethersea brand

[tropic valve]

not to be confused with F4 Nethersea Brand Land which is also full of it

but the F5 one doesn't start with it

[vernal lion]

nethersea brand land is more chill than this

[weak gazelle]

ohh that one
can't contain spread, fuck you

[vernal lion]

tbh Erato and Gnosis are really good op to counter most of annoying enemies in IS3

[crisp bolt]

I didn't even think to use gnosis

[glass monolith]

How to counter not wanting to do IS3?

[cyan gorge]

Add arbitrary rules to make it spicy

[deft badger]

SN starts after reset?

mean couple hours later or on reset 😄

[peak cloak]

no, mate. SN comes after maintenance 10:10 AM (utc -7)

[glass monolith]

All shit is 6 hours after, H, EX and S 12 hours

[deft badger]

so 6pm

for me

[glass monolith]

Well for rerun everything already open

[deft badger]

well fine of to work we do SN after that

[tropic valve]

[glass monolith]

lvl 99/140 And i checked if i done monthly only today (i didn't)

[eager gate]

mhm, 6 hours till the end of the event

It's finally time to sit and do S stages

[unique bronze]

hey peeps, quick question. for rest avenue anni, if I have SA, do I still need mlynar as a support op?

[deft badger]

which one is that again xD

[eager gate]

you really don't want to have supp when doing current anni

[unique bronze]

whys that

[eager gate]

Cause you can't auto it

[glass monolith]

Fuck, this, crab fest Anni

[unique bronze]

well frig that then lol guess sa is fine

[glass monolith]

Mlynar is much more damage than SA

[unique bronze]

I dont have mlynar, thats the thing

so I thought I could use him as supp, but I want an auto run

[glass monolith]

Well, TO THE COOKING TABLE

[deft badger]

btw talking about autos how does that anni s- work every time i wanna run it a window pops up thats asking me which run i wanna pick

why is that 😄

[cyan gorge]

You don't need Mlynar for current anni

[glass monolith]

You can ragequit from anni before stage ends to spend 0 sanity (it is because below 100 kills refunds sanity and closing app won't send how much you killed)

[eager gate]

thats it Minus this was a personal offense, I'm aboout to go take a look at their deeps and if it turns out the diff isn't that big I'm going to do absolutely nothing to you

So he's like a thousand more max dps on both their max targets

but he decays unlike SAsh

Dmg per hit to 1 target is noticeably bigger, like 150 I think?

[lethal dragon]

SA defenders in 2023

[lethal dragon]

You mean dph?

[eager gate]

I'm not defending SA, I'm saying yall fawning over horse too much

[lethal dragon]

You need to try him

[eager gate]

I have neither

So I'm going to try neither

[lethal dragon]

Lmao

[glass monolith]

Just saying

[lethal dragon]

The bigger difference between SA and Młynar is their dph
SA has like 2k and młynar can easily reach 4k
Then their cooldown difference which is biggg

[eager gate]

cycle time's a big issue and what ultimately separates them ofc
But since we're now looking at more that just dps SA has utility value with his talents

the heck's a dph sir

[lethal dragon]

DMG per hit

It matters a lot for a physical DPS to bypass defense

[glass monolith]

Not everything is measured in Damage Per Screenshot

[eager gate]

I know it does

Yet I'm doubtful about horse reaching 4k

[deft badger]

what does even damage per screenshot mean?

[eager gate]

3k is there no arguments for that

[lethal dragon]

You actually haven't tried him have you

[eager gate]

he's joking about dps, which is a damage per second

[glass monolith]

Base + 4x base from S3 activation + talent to multiply his ATK when enemies in his range or something + his S3 hits are atk_scale + his S3 does true damage based on his ATK

[eager gate]

I actually told you I have neither and I dislike both

[glass monolith]

So don't use them, problem solved, now do my IS3 for me

[deft badger]

i saw something per frame actually at some guide

still don't know what they mean with per frame

[lethal dragon]

and yet you are trying to decide his dph based on what?
idk what to say anymore
Might check victorlab if you don't wanna experience them

[glass monolith]

Mostly meme when you do stuff like hyper buffing Conviction for big red number on S1 crit instead doing some actual strategizing

[weak gazelle]

its related to frame per sec
1 sec = 30 frame for this game more or less

[eager gate]

Based on reading the kit

What did you expect

[weak gazelle]

from that you can count yourself

[deft badger]

that's the part that did confuse me in the end
my brain told me w8 do i do more dmg if i have more frames per sec 😄

[weak gazelle]

that depend on the other part

skill animation, radius, etc

[eager gate]

Maxed Horse is 385, x5.1 from trait s3, x1.8 on top of that with s3 multip

that's not 4k

even if you want to count true in which is entirely different hit

that won't hit 4k per hit

[deft badger]

that's why it doesn't make sense to me or the game is made in some weird way

[weak gazelle]

well, game is weird in the first place anyway
you know this game radius is circle for example

[deft badger]

i mean frames per sec shouldn't change anything at the dmg i deal in the end

what does my monitors refresh rate have to do with it

[weak gazelle]

it can change
how many hit exu produce with s3 active?

[deft badger]

but it should not, if lets say she does 50k dmg that's a number that's not going to change nvm if i see 30 pictures or 60

[weak gazelle]

50k dmg and 49.99k dmg are different if exu miss the last hit due to frame drop or for whatever reason no?

[deft badger]

that's not how it works actually, now i don't wanna say u are wrong but if that is the case then there is something wrong xD

calculation and visualization/animation are not the same

[weak gazelle]

yes i know
im lazy to justify myself but you get the idea

[lethal dragon]

This is the difference at P1
At p4 it's 4.1k and 2.4k

this is at 0 Def
SA is soo much more vulnerable to Def increase than młynar

[deft badger]

i get what u mean, still my brain just tells me that's wrong (not that u are wrong but at this point there is something wrong with the game if u are right)
from the moment i press the button animation starts ok that's what i get to see (frames per sec on my screen) but the numbers are already known for the program it shouldn't impact anything when it comes to DMG if its 30 or 60 frames
so how does visual at the end effect in any kind the calculation

[radiant sparrow]

Who should I get from the top op recruitment thing

[crisp bolt]

if you're talking about the 6* selector

mlynar

[radiant sparrow]

Yep, ty

[weak gazelle]

uhhh
im not good when it come to explaining things so dont take my word very seriously

auto deploy is the common occurence when fps drop can cause fail the map

when expected result is 100% win

[deft badger]

its hard to explain anyway, i struggle even to write down what i mean
but it would be the same like me taking a paper writing down something then turning it to u so that u can see it, it already happened u seeing it is not going to change the outcome what has already been written in this case calculated

[glass monolith]

Auto in AK is magic entity which fails when there are nowhere to fail

[vernal lion]

auto in ak is when you underestimate that lost frame while doing tight skill timing, and failed

[deft badger]

autos are a other story, i see they fail when my pc is in a big load when a lot of my memory is used

so a delay happens somewhere and a op gets deployed to late or skill used later then i initially did

[vernal lion]

enemy spawning does too

your timing maybe good, but if enemy spawning gets desynced then you're done

[deft badger]

nvm, saw it at some guides it didn't make sense to me to count some frames in so i did skip that part anyway
after all i don't even wanna go that deep in to this game 😂

[vernal lion]

I did fail that on Sui-Xiang

[deft badger]

if s- like that would apply in FPS games bro everyone with a high refresh rate would be a king 😄

[weak gazelle]

well yeah
this game require a stable fps
myself mald few times back in the day cause of shitty fps drop
(when trying to play stall strat) skill up 2 second late and i lost the entire run

[deft badger]

in this case it makes sense

same like in FPS games why it feels much better playing on higher frames

[vernal lion]

because this game goes heavy on number, and even big number,
if it does count enemy HP like from Balloon TD, it won't be so bad

the easiest case you can find is from that jungle SSS

or RA final boss battle, when you didn't kill enemies, just stall ALL of them

[stuck ermine]

too much is going on

[weak gazelle]

morbillion enemy on screen
too many red numbers
device failure to keep up
finally lost the run

[deft badger]

that's delay in general, game can't keep up with calculating and spitting out the frames

[vernal lion]

exactly

and this is mobile game tho

HG did improve it but not very much

the Performance option is just a lie

[weak gazelle]

and they decide to make RA as perma game mode in the future
this game really amusing

[deft badger]

they should cut numbers anyway down, when there are 3+ adds at a place i don't see the reason to keep spamming the screen whit them

[stuck ermine]

i'd take those content than worrying about game performance

[deft badger]

a priority maybe like show only the boss elite dmg taken when it comes to elite from one of them if there are 1000 of them at one place i don't need to know all of them

[tidal sedge]

RA is going to be permanent?

[weak gazelle]

from what i heard, yes

[glass monolith]

Incoming it was misstranslation and RA2 is finite too

[tidal sedge]

Hm. I wasn't around for the first one. That'll be interesting.

[deft badger]

i didn't like RA at all xD

[weak gazelle]

hopefully not perma
i dont like RA at all anyway

[glass monolith]

I hope second one won't have STUPID ASS PLOT WITH RNG UNLOCK AND FAILABLE CONDITIONS

[crisp bolt]

RA is perma

[glass monolith]

Reward for which is rice field which you maxed out 28 hours ago

[crisp bolt]

just be glad we aren't getting MC2

[vernal lion]

I don't accept this, man

[deft badger]

RA would be fun in my case if it would be upscaling difficulty for each day u pass and random event accuring

[glass monolith]

Same shit with Gladiia S3

[crisp bolt]

just give me D15 RA

[deft badger]

my experience with RA was all the same over and over and over

[crisp bolt]

where I stall final boss wave for hours

[glass monolith]

RA2 might fix it. Or we will get another IS3

[crisp bolt]

imagine if RA2 had pinchout level of stats

[weak gazelle]

RA have a very good tutorial to the point i dont understand at all
and upgrade-able map info who give nothing but useless information

[eager gate]

Got scared for a moment there

[crisp bolt]

RA tutorial was something else

[spark sinew]

all while everything is 1fps and periodically crashes

[crisp bolt]

I spend 30 hours not knowing Black Market existed

I thought it was an encounter node and not something you find at the corner of the map

[deft badger]

well that's the thing i would like to see, lets say u get to day 50 a slug 1 hits ur tank and takes 0 dmg 😄

[crisp bolt]

what would be the best true aoe stall method

[plucky flint]

Fia S3

[eager gate]

I got so invested in launching defenders into blue with Weedy that I missed cars spawning completely

[vernal lion]

RA2 belike: winter storm, rising flood, and toxic fog

enjoy the cancer

[crisp bolt]

those weather effects were pain

[stuck ermine]

you know they could add scout enemy that is included in attack waves and it would be 'fun'

[glass monolith]

As long as they add more variety than some rare mob and balance maps so you don't look for literally 2 same maps

Oh and attack waves being flipped upside down when you get hit by 20 elites in first wave and last wave is 1 normal dude

[crisp bolt]

oh

I also love how RA had one of the most useless techs in the game

the modular computer thing

by the time you actually get to building it. You already filled out the tech tree

[glass monolith]

Ah yes, upgrade to speed up unlocking techology which if you play casually you unlock by time you fill tech tree to max

[crisp bolt]

it does give an absurd amount of tech points though

if they actually made it a challenge to fill out tech tree

[stuck ermine]

that stuff is useless

[crisp bolt]

I was the person who built all 4 of them to see what I got

ended the run with 400 tech point

[vernal lion]

RA3 will be on Kristen's spaceship

goes to outer space

trust

[deft badger]

lol

[stuck ermine]

ra3 is endfield

[vernal lion]

[spark sinew]

ra had this i thought?

[stuck ermine]

pretty sure attack waves don't include scout, but they have carts that hit building

[glass monolith]

Unless he means "weak attack wave marching ahead of everyone to give you set up time" i don't follow what he means

[eager gate]

TIL that if you drag an enemy right over their checkpoint with pullers they don't count that and go back for it, so Gladia can actually keep some enemies soft-ccd with s2 for whole diration

[vernal lion]

ugh, not all of the time

[crisp bolt]

endfield is just satisfactory: arknights edition

[vernal lion]

the last few jedi of CW-EX-7 isn't like that

[tidal sedge]

That's always been a thing, though not all checkpoints work like that

[eager gate]

Ye I never noticed that before even though I've been using Gladia for a long time now, that was weird

[crisp bolt]

checkpoint stuff is weird

[spark sinew]

be careful cause some enemies will just go into the blue

[crisp bolt]

it's really funny to abuse pathing mechanics

like CC12 stalling

[vernal lion]

because pushing/pulling is like sleep attack but not totally

sleep attack makes them think they are invincible but not appearing on the map

[eager gate]

Do cars count as elite for eben purposes

[vernal lion]

I remember all cars are elite

[plucky flint]

Just check the enemies tab if they have elite mark

[eager gate]

They should put some elite identifier in their enemy info tab

There is?

[tidal sedge]

There is

[spark sinew]

there is

[eager gate]

What is it

[tidal sedge]

The triangle with lines

[plucky flint]

Offender

Damn

[eager gate]

oh
I just thought it's the same thing as faction in ops list

[spark sinew]

lol this guy is not an elite

[eager gate]

lappdumb

[spark sinew]

meanwhile both arc frontliners are???

[vernal lion]

usually defender enemy is set as elite enemy, this is like an acception

[tidal sedge]

That actually got me once when I used him this event

[vernal lion]

and this sheep is elite enemy

[spark sinew]

i mean this ship deserves the "elite" moniker

[glass monolith]

baa-cause

[crisp bolt]

sheeps are

[vernal lion]

but this one is NOT elite

[crisp bolt]

I get nightmares thinking about doing SL S stages

[glass monolith]

That's why i don't think

[vernal lion]

and their dmg is so freaking terrified

[glass monolith]

Damage reduction bullshit go

[high crest]

At last s-4 complete(normal) I'll complete the rest later

[eager gate]

Rename yourself into DR Bullshit

[vernal lion]

here, take this

[eager gate]

these had dr?

I thought they were just fat cause like 4k def

[vernal lion]

not they don't have dr

[tidal sedge]

They have like 800 def

They just have huge hp

[vernal lion]

you want DR elite enemy? here you go

[glass monolith]

I mean OUR team DR bullshit go

[spark sinew]

yeah they're very low defense

[eager gate]

Oh I just started playing when Pallas event was running

couldn't do more than like the first stage of it

[autumn frigate]

May I ask, is there any vanguards that can generate dp along with having good survivability

[high crest]

Pioneers

Flametail saga courier

Etc

[crisp bolt]

does bagpipe killing enemies count?

[polar crane]

poncirus

she has defender stat iirc

[vernal lion]

I will say these 2 are the most annoying elite enemies

[tidal sedge]

I like those guys

Well, the one on the left is much less fun with stat scaling

[eager gate]

Now that Ines is in the game, we have a vanguard with the best type of survivability: enemies never reaching the melee range

[vernal lion]

they are truly dangerous when coming in horge

[gray stone]

Closest you can ask for is Courier

[eager gate]

There's also a kjerag variant of explody sheeps

that also applies freeze

[vernal lion]

those enemies just like jedi of this event

[tidal sedge]

The kjerag guys can be silenced iirc, unlike Blood Shamans/Magisters

[vernal lion]

pushing or pulling will make them take significant true dmg

[autumn frigate]

How bout Texas and zima?

[gray stone]

Zima maybe
Texas is known to be paper

[autumn frigate]

Ah ok can I'mma use zima then

[tropic valve]

HG be like, yeah let's just increase their HP but not increase their HP loss 💀

[vernal lion]

haha when it's not about %

[autumn frigate]

Wait how bout candible

[vernal lion]

you need her to attack to get DP

I mean all Agent do be like that

[spark sinew]

canta works but she's more about being safe from rangeds

puzzle has no survivability i believe

[glass monolith]

Thankfully "nothing to attack" is rarely case with those stupid predeployed BS

[vernal lion]

stainless user belike:

[gray stone]

Based

Red pilled

[glass monolith]

Stainless users when map is mix of banned/deployable tile as god damn chess board:

[tropic valve]

Gravel survives 2 hits

[vernal lion]

bro you know, the only way to beat d15 hard coc is leaking

[glass monolith]

Have content clock and quit stage

Then realize it was second CoC in row and you used clock on first one

[tropic valve]

well, yes, but actually https://youtu.be/Rqpk0cwz8jw?t=1305

[vernal lion]

I may like how niche you can play

just for a stage

and stun mine is the best gift

[tropic valve]

true

[autumn frigate]

So between zima and candible whose btr

[glass monolith]

Cantabile is just OP assuming you can hit something

[spark sinew]

canta is better, but not for the reason that she can tank or hold the lane (she really can't)

[autumn frigate]

So if I deploy her at the start ?

[vernal lion]

Agent is like the combination of Charger and Pioneer

they can't generate DP themself, but they can do good dmg to enemy

[autumn frigate]

Ic ic then ig I use candible

Or should I just use Myrtle instead

[gray stone]

Myrtle bad use Ely/Sail

[glass monolith]

Give me Sail or pay for S1M3 Ely

[spark sinew]

not having s1m3 ely already, shame

[tropic valve]

so true

[spark sinew]

jokes aside flags are a tad bit weird
for new players especially
not only will they not have the need for so many deployment points, they also might not have fast redeploys/whatever to catch the leaks from the beginning

[gray stone]

Pioneers/Chargers for all

[spark sinew]

so the actual efficiency of using flags as open varies wildly

[gray stone]

Myrtle is overrated

[spark sinew]

god forbid you don't have bag

[stuck ermine]

thats why u bring two of them. dogs are everywhere

[tidal sedge]

I started with Myrtle and I didn't use her all the time but she seemed useful sometimes

[spark sinew]

if you have the option, going flag + agent + bag is very comfy

[tidal sedge]

But then Executor was one of my main dps carries back then

[spark sinew]

you still have constant dp gen, regardless of enemies, but you also can actually hold some early trash mobs

[eager gate]

This thing ate 2 full Exu s3s and you can see how much hp it still has

[spark sinew]

obviously if you have that, your acc is already quite invested...

[tidal sedge]

Isn't that the one where it gains def and res per hit

[vernal lion]

The Prototype "Turnpike" has its HP increased to 40000 and DEF and RES reduced to 0, but instead of having is DEF and RES reduced whenever it takes damage, they are increased by 100 and 1, respectively, up to 9000 DEF and 90 RES.

[eager gate]

Yes it is, I just decided to read the level description

I should just Surt that entire thing

Surt hospital lets go

[spark sinew]

just block this thingy

then you don't need to deal with cars

[eager gate]

No I'm gonna make it Surt hospital

[gray stone]

You can Surtr the starting traffic lights

[spark sinew]

i can joke about e2 kirara but i won't

[eager gate]

I don't get fun playing the game with just meta all over the place

[spark sinew]

well it's more about actually using the mechanics, and not surtr hospital stuff kirara joke was unrelated

[eager gate]

Kirara isn't there to specifically help with the level, she's from last one where I used her s2 to help with defenders' stacks

[tidal sedge]

Eben with buffs was funny vs that Traffic Tower

[vernal lion]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHZ6dA0rRXk&ab_channel=Shoyuu

[tropic valve]

that was some stylish Heavyrain usage

[vernal lion]

[glass monolith]

Activating CC7 PTSD, proceed to next step: cry about it

[eager gate]

cc7 was... I don't remember
I remember cc6 was crocodile desert map and then cc8 was Dusk map

but not whats in between

[polar crane]

cc7 was dusk map

cc8 is NL themw

cc9 is eggs

[eager gate]

ah
Thought NL is 9

alright then it makes sens

Red tile mountain s3 is pretty funny on S-3

[glass monolith]

CC7 challenge 8 was ally attack speed -60 and THICC boss. Cool guy way of solving it was Ifrit S3 and maxed Chalter S3 or something. So I had to cook Heavyrain S2 to Dodge explosions while god damn Aciddrop was soloing boss

[eager gate]

Oh that one challenge was one when I realized that -60aspd means Plat and Tuye always get their talent proc

[eager gate]

nice range

[tidal sedge]

5 second atk interval moment

[glass monolith]

Silvergun uploaded 4* for not CM one. Pain. Utage can't 1v1 robot with gravity attack speed while other is baited away

[eager gate]

Almost makes you wish she had a real module

Instead of that trash they gave her

[spark sinew]

cn did do CM it seems

[eager gate]

some people in charge of mods feel like they don't even try to play the units and see what can be done with them

[spark sinew]

still 3 slots left over

like wtf

[eager gate]

hey does Silverash's talent work on devices?

Like Weedy's gun

[spark sinew]

i wonder if they used pause deploy heavily and that's why en suffers

[polar crane]

it does iirc

[glass monolith]

That shit works even on roadblocks

[foggy grove]

anything that have timer

[eager gate]

No, go away filthy tree woman

[fast smelt]

I made it work

[glass monolith]

Should I inhale past week sanity package for 20 shop t2 devices?

[fallen terrace]

How do you do CW S 4?

So Eyja nuke is the key?

[viral kraken]

With pain and countless attempts

[spark sinew]

my run didn't use eyja
weedy + some nuke for robots make it way easier