strategy

[jovial nest]

the only time I play Flametail or Siege anymore is in SSS

if I wanted a pioneer it's Saga S2

[dark violet]

I heard she's good

[jovial nest]

she is

[dark violet]

but I won't depart from sona

[jovial nest]

but the thing is

a solid Pioneer is not too necessary anymore

[dark violet]

sona vubicz is too funny

[dark violet]

true, what I mostly like is that she can still fill the centurion role when needed

while other pioneers can fall off with pressure

she has strong survivability

(and nice synergy with ntr/gravel)

[jovial nest]

iirc Saga has a solid S3 if you really want a solution for tankier mobs

lemme check

It might not be 3 block Flametail but it's not bad either.

[dark violet]

yeah that's pretty decent

they're different uses anyway

[jovial nest]

yeah this is more about killing prio

Flametail's S3 is more survivability

[dark violet]

arts dodge is

[tidal sedge]

turns out im just stupid

[dark violet]

lol

I think I forgot about that one

[tidal sedge]

its the first one so understandable

[dark violet]

ah yeah, it went in a breeze

what makes me sad with chapter 12 is that I had to remove ceobe for most of the missions

needing gravel too often

she wasn't that useful since dorothy was there

and the boss wasn't suitable for her at all

next event

[tidal sedge]

man I love Ceobe

shes so well rounded

[dark violet]

yeah

and she's fun

[real marten]

I like her lines

[tidal sedge]

dadadada

[still cipher]

can anyone help me clear 10-11 with no support units? im trying to farm the material there

i can send my op list if you guys want

[cinder pike]

what units do you have

[glass monolith]

I shoperatored her purely for POO mode in soon future, end up throwing at anything which "Has defense" or "CM condition: X gains +140% def"

[dark violet]

bang, bang!

[dark violet]

I had her fairly early and was my caster from since. Never used amiya due to that

[still cipher]

These are my units

[glass monolith]

Most operator module lore: Sad
Ceobe operator module lore: Doggo beat up bandits with baguette

[cinder pike]

that is a unit list allright

[tidal sedge]

I got her like 3 months ago, but I bought both of her skins when they came out from how much I liked her

[still cipher]

Yeah sorry

[cinder pike]

all good

[dark violet]

that roster looks stacked already

is 10-11 hard, i can't remember?

[cinder pike]

are you attempting adverse or normal?

[tidal sedge]

Ling can solo it, with 1 more blocker on adverse

[dark violet]

no point in adverse, it's for farming

[still cipher]

Adverse just for the clear

[cinder pike]

they might be doing it on adverse and malding needlessly

[still cipher]

Doesn’t adverse give better drop rates?

[tidal sedge]

nope

[dark violet]

not that I know of

[still cipher]

Oh

[tidal sedge]

if it does its minimal

[dark violet]

they'd mention it if it did

adverse is equivalent to challenge mode

but more convenient

[tidal sedge]

its the same (blue numbers are efficient), it looks a tiny bit better due to better luck

[cyan gorge]

After 12 hours of malding H12-4
it's finally over

[dark violet]

well done

[dark violet]

looks like statistical variance yeah

[glass monolith]

I must give H stages a credit. They could brute force armored spy into each H boss stage just to make you suffer. They didn't

[dark violet]

they were good yeah

difficult, but good

[tidal sedge]

Penance, Chalter and Surtr for last wave down, Mountain + medic up

should be enough

[dark violet]

remember the days when crownslayer was a boss

now it's just fodder enemy

[tidal sedge]

if boss can be pushed, its not a boss in my eyes

[still cipher]

Oh

[still cipher]

Uhhh any way to like show it?

Sorry

Are my levels enough too btw?

[tidal sedge]

should be, if not you can always drop Sexas when it gets rough

[tidal sedge]

time to pull out paint

[still cipher]

Haha sorry

[cinder pike]

just use arknights map no?

[dark violet]

what I like is that, while most bosses are immune to most status effects, almost no boss is immune to bind

[tidal sedge]

Indigo dominance

[cinder pike]

https://map.ark-nights.com/map/main_10-10

[dark violet]

ethangod

[tidal sedge]

zamn didnt know that existed

sad I cant show off drawing skills

[cinder pike]

ms paint is fine

[dark violet]

but I'll still live and breathe gladiia s3. I cannot find her s2 better

[cinder pike]

it is more fun to read

[glass monolith]

Wake me up when they make sleep weak boss (Outside IS2)

[still cipher]

So are you sending it here or elsewhere?

[dark violet]

OD boss, but it's you who's weak to the sleep

[glass monolith]

Saga s2 as alarm clock

[dark violet]

lol

[deft badger]

[dark violet]

I'd have said yalter s3

it can go wild with enemies

now I want to fight this boss

[dark violet]

this but OD boss, the rerun can't come soon enough

[tidal sedge]

Sexas where needed, Surtr in front or behind Penance when the horde comes

[still cipher]

Alright thank you, I’ll try it out

[tidal sedge]

good luck

[tidal sedge]

btw take myrtle too, squad might be too expensive

[still cipher]

Yup

[deft badger]

i need a event, getting bored af

[river atlas]

farm more 1-7

[deft badger]

-.-

[karmic blade]

I came up with a new strat for H12-4. I pulled on the banner until I got Mlynar, so I can borrow Nightingale.

[deft badger]

hahaha 😄

[dark violet]

that's certainly valid

[still cipher]

alright i managed to clear it thanks

[karmic blade]

I managed H12-3 with no mlynar saria or nightingale and that was enough malding for me

[deft badger]

i have the same problem, don't even think u do need NG for 12-4 but without mlynar and skalter its a pain

actually if u have enough healers build u don't have to worry about that as well

since bubbles can be skipped with AOE dmg if u don't have NG to cover ur team with her ulty

[karmic blade]

Ranged deployment area is limited its hard not to have have them overlap. And you don't have nightingale's dolls to taunt the nuke

So if you borrow mlynar, but don't have NG, mlynar dies because he's taunting the big nuke and you can't use FRD to eat it

[deft badger]

what do u mean with nuke?

[crisp bolt]

The 2nd boss drone attack thing does a lot of damage

[karmic blade]

each clone does a big arts damage corruption attack to the last deployed op

[deft badger]

u mean the bubbles

[crisp bolt]

Yeah

[deft badger]

ahhh u mean that

was baiting that with fast redeploys

[crisp bolt]

Mlynar taunt

[dark violet]

gravel go go

[karmic blade]

yeah 12-3 I used frd bait, ifrit to damage lower left, and craploads of yatalter drops

[deft badger]

actually

when u are in the last phase

u can do it with surtr

[crisp bolt]

I did it without surtr

Just let the absurdist do a walk

[dark violet]

it's doable in various ways

[verbal sparrow]

does it feel like ines s3 is more useful than yato s3 ?

[dark violet]

ines was more useful to me here

[crisp bolt]

I'd rather use yato s3 personally

[dark violet]

in a vacuum, yalter prolly better

[deft badger]

if u kill them fast enough so that they become invulnerable surtr will stay up till p2 is over

[karmic blade]

I also have no help from defender healing. Gummy is literally my best

[deft badger]

my problem was at 12-3 that i was doing the boss with QB which with skalter was nice she is melting him but 2nd wave of bubbles in P2 is a pain to time

did have to fire QB ulty early so that she has atk-speed to kill them all before they kill my team and used eyja as heli-drop to help out

[verbal sparrow]

yato s3 deals around 3k damage to each non-giant enemy right?

[deft badger]

anyway it took 4 hours to get the right timings xD

[dark violet]

I think healing defenders are too weak for h12-4

no defense and the healing is kinda weak to last

[cyan gorge]

I got carried by 3 medic defenders in h12-4

[dark violet]

nice

[deft badger]

seems like saria carries all of that -.-

[dark violet]

got carried by funny lena

[tidal sedge]

Gummy is the best

[deft badger]

now i am even thinking about getting saria from the selector insted of skadi

[cyan gorge]

Yes s1m1 Saria goated

[dark violet]

imagine a clear that needs precise inputs almost all of the duration

[karmic blade]

I saw people using Saria with her module to just tank all the nukes in 12-3 and I was so jealous

[dark violet]

a single second delay and it's all over

[karmic blade]

well saria + NG obviously.

[dark violet]

that's not the same, lol

[karmic blade]

did you watch the 40 minute 4* clear? lol

[deft badger]

lol

[dark violet]

nope, but sounds like hell

[deft badger]

link it

[dark violet]

I was satisfied with my clear, any clear is enough

[karmic blade]

I think there's one for all 4 stages now

[verbal sparrow]

Basically if she's attacking an enemy who's running towards her she'll only hit them 4 times, but if she's attacking an enemy who's running away from her she can hit them 6 times.
Oh, so yato s3 has higher damage than I thought

[karmic blade]

don't have links handy, at work heh

[tidal sedge]

silvergun?

[dark violet]

bonus backstab damage

[karmic blade]

I don't think silvergun hads vids out yet. Doesn't he wait for EN?

[deft badger]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1QStMBQdyI&ab_channel=ZPKF

what i found is it that one?

[tidal sedge]

he posts videos for jp too, he already made previews for upcoming units

[dark violet]

I don't find using only 4* fun enough to do it

[jovial nest]

Phew....

[tidal sedge]

I do, but in IS, 3stars only is too basic even with Dober

[jovial nest]

I won

so....I consider H12-3 harder just because H12-4 was easier to lane

[dark violet]

whoosh whoosh go whoosh 🌀

[jovial nest]

although that might be because a pic here inspired me to use OG specter for top

Also Ya2 S3 on these tile ban idles are just so good

[dark violet]

interesting. I used splatter there instead, to maximize specterxgladiia skill synergy

[lethal dragon]

https://youtu.be/8iZvNU_3ToI

[crisp bolt]

I'm about to bash my head into trying H12-4 soon. I don't have AH

[lethal dragon]

Tums my goat

[dark violet]

hope you have mlynar and nightingale

[crisp bolt]

I have to borrow mlynar

[jovial nest]

and this is what i meant by having a more stacked team having more options

I just redep cycled Mlynar, Surtr and Poze on whoever's finished with nuking

[dark violet]

yeah, that's fair

[cyan gorge]

NG not required if you have enough medics (defenders)

[dark violet]

I don't find surtr, mlynar, taxes and yalter that interesting, so prob not for me

[crisp bolt]

I don't have enough ops built to consider interesting comps

[dark violet]

although that mostly applies to mlynar and surtr

[river atlas]

I have a fuckton of ops built but my skill lvl is too low to play the most interesting comps

[glass monolith]

Wish i had Saria to extend my dying period

[jovial nest]

H12-4 didn't even require me using a Debuffer/Suzu

it's easier

I'm actually surprised they only spawned 2 Ball Drones with this Damazti map

[dark violet]

yeah, the drones were really a sidenote

barely had to account for them

[jovial nest]

they had account

its just not as dangerous anymore since you got a chance to build up a formidable front

[dark violet]

I mean more in the sense that they just died like normal fodder, didn't need to particularly change strategy from lane holding

top one I barely look at it

[deft badger]

seeing how for him, is a joke with his 4 star ops makes me thinking that i am doing something wrong lol xD

[jovial nest]

those things are dangerous when they spawn a lot

since it can just overwhelm your heal/defenses

[dark violet]

don't compare yourself, he prolly malded a lot, his clear wasn't an easy feat

[crisp bolt]

yeah 4* clear is masochism

[glass monolith]

Fuck overwhelming my heal, THEY KILL MY HEAL

[jovial nest]

they're right. 4* clearing this ain't easy

[deft badger]

bro he easy heals it away

[jovial nest]

same way doing a 3* clear in JT8-3 probably made ILA mald

[dark violet]

the strategy is to not let them build up

[deft badger]

who is this?

[crisp bolt]

purestream

[dark violet]

^

[cyan gorge]

Purestream

[jovial nest]

purestream

[glass monolith]

Mario Purestream

[crisp bolt]

purestream actually has really good burst heal for a 4*

[dark violet]

sewer cleaner

[deft badger]

why do u know my name 😄

[jovial nest]

Mario Mario

[crisp bolt]

Mario Jumpman Mario

[deft badger]

anywa she and purestream easy heal the burst away

when the bubbles spawn

[jovial nest]

Final verdict is, Ch12 is fun. It mixes up the gameplay for me better than NL and equal to IC's.

[verbal sparrow]

I have been doing some thinking about ines s2 vs s3
s2 looks great but deploying ines long term feels suboptimal when I could replace her with another 6*. the invis and speed steal could counter some bad enemies however.
s3 binds enemies for 5 sec so it's a great panic button like sexas, and higher attack allows her to punch high DEF enemies better

[jovial nest]

use S2 as default

use S3 as an FRD utility

or S3 when the map just has a ton of mobs per wave

[fiery marsh]

Holy god my mylnar aways die in the end

[deft badger]

her bind is the thing i like the most on her s2 or s3, great thing to have when u deal with some heavy hitters who can die in the bind duration but should not touch ur frontline

[fiery marsh]

I think It is the 4x ranged corrosion atk from the boss... Someone know how much damage this skill does?

[crisp bolt]

that's why ng is needed

[jovial nest]

Mlynar carried DPS that hard?

well i guess AoE is perfect when they share HP

[deft badger]

when did u place him down?

[jovial nest]

but Mlynar S3 active is in danger of those BFS sarkaz

[crisp bolt]

yeah mlynar DPS is just perfect for the boss

[fiery marsh]

Yes mylnar is perfect

[jovial nest]

the only time i bothered with Mly is H12-4

[verbal sparrow]

darn between sexas, yato and ines that's 6 M3-worthy skills

[jovial nest]

all of the above are M6-worthy

[fiery marsh]

Literally the beggining of the stage, but in this part his always die, he is my only dps here

[deft badger]

is he the last op u deploy?

[fiery marsh]

I think i will save penance's s3 for that final cast

[fiery marsh]

No, but he has taunt

[crisp bolt]

mlynar taunt

[deft badger]

i don't think its the burst dmg of the bubbles since he has to much hp to die that easy to it

[cyan gorge]

He has taunt, deployment order irrelevant

[crisp bolt]

all the clones target him and he gets deleted

the only way I managed to get a clear was using ng s3 + her birdcage

[deft badger]

nah i was thinking its the dot proc from the boss that goes on ur last deploy op

[cyan gorge]

Again, taunt overrides that

[deft badger]

the proc? nah it doesn't i think u mean the bubbles spawning

but that thing the boss does from the start on ur last deployed op

[rough current]

corrosion def shred adding up? Or is the damage all arts at that point

[deft badger]

it always goes on ur last deploy

[crisp bolt]

it's all arts damage

so corrosion doesn't matter in this case

[cyan gorge]

I also brought Mlynar to H12-3 but he never died but that might be a difference in set up

[deft badger]

anyway do u survive the first burst?

[storm current]

Boss will do a burst every 20s
Specifically every clone will target 1 unit on the field

If mlynar is on field

They all attack him

[fiery marsh]

So people use nightgale to bait with cage?

[storm current]

Doing about 900 dmg per clone + 800 from corrosion

[rough current]

mmm. was he surrounded by ops on 3 of 4 sides?

[fiery marsh]

Yes the Cross atk i survive

[crisp bolt]

mlynar I think can just survive it with skalter buff

I didn't have skalter so

[fiery marsh]

The problem is when the forth clone appears and they do the ranged atk

[storm current]

No
He does not

Even with skalter he will get 0 def regardless

[fiery marsh]

[storm current]

You prob can use skalter s1

Else shelter from like, quercus

[fiery marsh]

4400 damage

If i bait with penance she probally Will die too

[storm current]

Penance can survive with shield on

[fiery marsh]

I didnt want to build Quercus Just for that

[storm current]

But not reliable since she need to get skill up

Well

Technically quercus work at e1

Altho she is a pretty nice investment

[fiery marsh]

I think i will try penance, is the option that i have for now

[latent monolith]

Mudrock can probably survive with shields on although idk if she can regenerate fast enough

How often is the ability?

[storm current]

Nothats not the issue

[fiery marsh]

If dont Work i will probally have to e1 Quercus so

[storm current]

Mlynar taunt

[latent monolith]

Oh ya

[storm current]

So mudrock wont get hit

Its 20sp cooldown btw

[cyan gorge]

Quercus provides sanctuary (damage reduction) which would be better than Skalter

[deft badger]

i did have 2 bubble spawns first was just take it, 2nd kills my team always but
mlynar 1 hits them
if the person up there is right and the boss does it on a 20sec base
if u are able to push him from the first burst to 50% he does the next right when he loses his invulnerability if u time mlynar right then he will just swing one time and kill them before they kill ur team

only reason i was able to do 12-3 is timing to kill them right when they spawn i wasn't able to heal it

[rough current]

Was Mlynar here before he died?

[glass monolith]

Quercus damage reduction only works on almost full hp operators. WHICH IS NOBODY WHEN BOSS CLAPS HIS GLOBAL BS

[cosmic thicket]

JUST USE NINE COLORED DEER

🦌

[glass monolith]

JUST GIVE ME SILENCE ALTER

[storm current]

If you are about to say "sarkaz elite splash dmg"
No, saria cant even block the sarkaz cuz she use 1 block for the boss here

[cosmic thicket]

Even still I placed him there in my clear and he survived 🤷

[storm current]

Placement is not the issue

Because boss and clone can hit global

So mlynar will eat shot regardless of where you put him

[jovial nest]

who has the strongest Shelter buffer in CN right now?

[storm current]

Silence alt

[cosmic thicket]

Probably silence alter

Actually now that I think about it the difference maker was probably me using texas vg to stun the drones LOL

[storm current]

43% shelter

[cosmic thicket]

That probably saved mlynar quite a bit

[jovial nest]

can you stack Silencer's Shelter to Hoed's?

[cosmic thicket]

Shelter doesn't stack by default unless hoe's is a different keyword

[rough current]

I put him one square to the left of that...fewer drones nearby to attack him. I also used ng of course though. (LOL 43% shelter...man I need to build that.)

[soft crystal]

Use shamare

[storm current]

Wouldnt that be ideal

Cuz mlynar will be tanking for your range units in that case

Drone does like 400 physical

[fiery marsh]

He was here to avoid the Cross shaped atk

[jovial nest]

ok nice to know that Silencer can actually give immortality to 1st target that hits lethal

can only be used twice in a map

[storm current]

Cross shape attack is fairly insignificant, its 375 art splash

[cosmic thicket]

this was my working setup, texas vg 1 tile below ptilo and lancet was my anti amogus

[rough current]

ah I see. I guess ptilo heals were just not enough then. could use another defender medic or sth.

[storm current]

The main danger is the corrosion proc of 800 dmg + 900

[jovial nest]

Damazti's cross splash ain't as dangerous as Tal's

[fiery marsh]

And i Just found out that the Boss does the 4x ranged atk at the moment that the forth Boss spawns, and i was baiting It with penance without even noticing, and dont have time to use again in the Second cast

[jovial nest]

because my Skalter layout (very compact) didn't just die immediately

[glass monolith]

Well Tal's croos attack doesn't summon drones with AK-47 spraying your operators

[storm current]

I think

The nuke splash is like

800 corrosion + 375 art + 360 drone

Thats enough to kill most range units

Also funny stat

The new 4* caper

Had 2200 hp

Extremely tanky lmao

[cosmic thicket]

??????

what on earth

[storm current]

She is supposed to be similar to marksman stat wisr

But lmao

[fiery marsh]

I was Just thinking, Roberta can make mylnar live maybe, even she blocks Just one of the clones atk will already down to 3.500 damage

[storm current]

2200 hp

[fiery marsh]

My mylnar have 3.8

[glass monolith]

Or you can heal Mlynar

[fiery marsh]

They do 4.4k

[cosmic thicket]

or just kill the drones with tex(alter)

[fiery marsh]

Mylnar instaly dies

[storm current]

Well

[crisp bolt]

man I want caper to release earlier

she sounds really fun

[fiery marsh]

The problem isnt the drones, is the ranged atk that the 4 clones cast at same time

[glass monolith]

Fuck it. WHERE IS SHINING

[storm current]

Shining wont help

[cosmic thicket]

oh

[storm current]

Because everyone will have 0 def

[fiery marsh]

0 def

[storm current]

Even quercus work better cuz shelter dred

[crisp bolt]

just raise quercus

[cosmic thicket]

idr that being a problem for me

[glass monolith]

If you want better, Stainless S3

[fiery marsh]

Im seriously considering Roberta, cheapier

[glass monolith]

But i don't have slots to bring shit because map is trash

[cosmic thicket]

isn't 9cd better than quercus here bc having more than 70% hp is hard

[storm current]

Well

[cosmic thicket]

also has 20% shelter vs 14% (16 with pot)

[fiery marsh]

But i have to test is the sarkaz Guy wont eat the Shield first

[storm current]

Im not quite sure how does that work with insta attack

Cuz like

4x hit instantly

[crisp bolt]

less than 40% hp

[cyan gorge]

It's not that hard, from my experience at least

[fiery marsh]

It should block at least one

[storm current]

Will it all get reduced by quercus since its from 100% hp to low

[cyan gorge]

Quercus s1 makes it easier tho

[cosmic thicket]

hmm ok

[storm current]

Or is it 1 by 1

So that he went down like 100% > 80% > 60% > 40% to get the shelter

Also its more for the fact that quercus heal is actually good

9cd is exclusively for shelter only

But quercus has good perma heal to replace medic

Role compression reallu

[cosmic thicket]

yeah

im reconsidering trying to mess around more with H12-3

[cyan gorge]

Quercus carried me though each H stage, except 2 cause no boss

[cosmic thicket]

like im wondering if 9cd/ange could be in that center tile (9cd for shelter ange to try to kill the drones before they do too much)

[storm current]

Uh

Not efficient

Drone have low def high res

[cosmic thicket]

not efficient but it's funny

[storm current]

And ange kill drone very slow

You rather use like

Lin

[cosmic thicket]

they only have 5k max hp right

lin can't reach the drone in lumen's position for my setup

[storm current]

Drones have 6k hp in H

[fiery marsh]

Just to know: i can Stack Roberta's Shield?

[storm current]

No

[fiery marsh]

Meh

[tidal sedge]

you can stack def tho

[karmic blade]

where can I see the numbers for the boss on 12-4

[glass monolith]

Shield tied to device, there are dots next to deployed device or something, devices goes away, so do block

[fiery marsh]

The ranged atk is physical or arts?

[glass monolith]

3.8k for me on H12-4, enough for Mlynar to live or which stage we cook?

[weak gazelle]

uhh... this one was way easier than h12-1

[fiery marsh]

H12-3, is because that is an extra clone. Or do we have a extra clone on 4 too?

[crisp bolt]

in 12-3 it's because of the extra clone I believe

[glass monolith]

12-4 has extra clone too

[fiery marsh]

Dear god

[crisp bolt]

I haven't done 12-4 yet

I'm about to

[glass monolith]

There is more

[fiery marsh]

Well my mylnar have exactly 3.858 hp

[rough current]

when I first saw the fourth clone I laughed out loud

[crisp bolt]

[deft badger]

who did u borrow anyway?

[fiery marsh]

Most sane player after doing Ch12 hell stages

[fiery marsh]

That whisperain, i tried with nightgale but somehow whispean heals a lot more, with nightgale everyone was dying

[deft badger]

i still would like to know if u can survive the first burst with ur own healers

then u can take a surtr

[glass monolith]

AoE medics attack slower and heal slightly less, also i don't know whisperain skills outside knowing S2 cause ear damage

[deft badger]

and just clap it

[tidal sedge]

all of you complaining about 12-4 but it wasnt even that bad

[fiery marsh]

I Will try, at the moment im coping that the ranged atk from the Boss is physical, bought a deepcolor and will pray to mylnar to dodge

[glass monolith]

He doesn't know (He perfectly knows and just trolls us)

[deft badger]

but u should be able to survive actually

u have saria

[tidal sedge]

rare case of Deepcolor S2 usage spotted

[deft badger]

i did have lumen and warf if they survive the first burst u should too

[jovial nest]

No

[crisp bolt]

wait how am I going to do 12-4

[glass monolith]

On scale from 1 to fuck it i didn't even try to do 12-4 mlynarless

[tidal sedge]

2 laneholders on each side and a defender behind each, maybe a medic and frd too

[jovial nest]

I do love that using AH means i can skip on Defenders

can't wait for Ulpianus

[eager gate]

imagine he comes out and he's like a defender

what you gonna do

huh

[glass monolith]

Just Mlynar is not enough for me... Time to unleash QUBIC

[storm current]

Then he wouldnt be bad

AH always tank with dmg reduction and high hp

[eager gate]

oh a gura fan is back

[storm current]

If ulpianus has high def, he will tank even better

But from the look of it

[jovial nest]

in fact if Ulp is a defender, that'd be insanely good

[boreal magnet]

send help

[storm current]

He most likely become a juggernaut if he is a defender anyway

[eager gate]

duelist isn't out of the question prob

[jovial nest]

dude....a jugg is still solid af as an AH

[boreal magnet]

theyre all dead in single attack from the boss

[jovial nest]

Gladiia alone gives DR and healing

[glass monolith]

Skadi and Spalter give max hp to empower Gladiia healing even more

[jovial nest]

Don't you just love how high Damazti's invul uptime is?

[eager gate]

I do, it lets me recharge everything important without killing it

[glass monolith]

I understand you need to reveal clone to damage him. But final clone invul is just here to say "You know what? F you"

[jovial nest]

indeed

[fiery marsh]

HE DODGED GUYS HOLY -

[jovial nest]

putting 3 block on that map. Ballzy

[fiery marsh]

Deepcolor best operator from the game, saved me two times already: cc12 and now

[jovial nest]

cause there's so many BFS sarkaz there

[glass monolith]

OH WAIT FALSE ALARM I have Quercus give him DR

So it is 3.8k with Quercus

[deft badger]

ops?

send krooster if u want help, ain't sure if u just report that u died or looking for help lol

[glass monolith]

OH GOD FUCK THIS STAGE

You know this funny all 4 clones attack you at once move?

HE CAN CAST IT DURING GLOBAL BS

[real marten]

Just

Tank it I guess

[glass monolith]

My full HP Mlynar just die to that extra drone hit

[deft badger]

ahh i am going to w8 for skadi then abuse that boss in h12-4 xD

[noble pewter]

u mean u will use skalter s1 to tank the dmg or sth?

[glass monolith]

I have only one option on my mind to defeat this boss

(Adds Suzu into squad)

[deft badger]

i meant to say skadi

[storm current]

Shamare can cheese it easily btw

[noble pewter]

just deploy diagonally mlynar survive everything as long no one adjacent to him n have at least 2 healer healing him n dont let any trilby touch him during his skill

[storm current]

No thats not the issue

Every 20s

All clone will attack a target, global

[real marten]

I wonder how a fight would go where we fight the cluster and JT8-3 Talulah at the same time

[deft badger]

i wanted to try suzu QB on the boss but u have mlynar on top of that -.-

[storm current]

So with mlynar, they will attack him at the same time

[glass monolith]

All bosses attack him at once, leaving him on like 200 hp, ALL WHILE THOSE GLOBAL BS DRONES STILL THERE

[storm current]

Which does 900 per clone + 800 corrosion

[fiery marsh]

Please dont give them ideas

[storm current]

That ignore your mlynar placement

[glass monolith]

And when i say 200 HP, I mean glory to damage reduction he should be DEAD

[real marten]

No it would be funny

[noble pewter]

my borrowed lv90 mlynar survived, hmm maybe my perfumer passive healing made him survive

[storm current]

No

Because that mlynar is max level, thus high hp

[real marten]

Simply skalter s1

[deft badger]

4 of them on the map 1 shot mud xD

[noble pewter]

yea u need lv90 mlynar to survive with a silver of hp, saw a bilibili clear mention sth like that with 3 op clear

[deft badger]

i was like let mud take the procs

mud died soon as 4 bosses spawned lol

[noble pewter]

skalter s1 cooldown is 50s, boss is 20s though lot of planning to use properly

[real marten]

Uh

Burst boss down faster??

Not sure how you would go about doing that

[noble pewter]

u burst faster, he will do his lifeline burst faster too

[real marten]

Smh

Deploy 2 mlynars

[noble pewter]

but yea if u just need skalter survive the final phase burst then maybe it will help

[glass monolith]

Imagine if boss had invul gates on top of invul gates during invul gates

[storm current]

Just debuff boss and clones with shamare

[real marten]

Simply gain IS relics

[storm current]

That dmg scale with their atk regardless

Or

Hear me out

Time yato s2

Because +1 taunt

[real marten]

7 seconds?

[storm current]

She can eat the nuke

[fiery marsh]

Actually big brain

[real marten]

Or you can use bison s2

[noble pewter]

wow that actually can work, but man timing...

[real marten]

Same thing, 40 seconds

[fiery marsh]

Maybe this will be userfull h12-4

But now i will rest a little im feeling so much peace of mind after that deepcolor save

[noble pewter]

i saw a bilibili 3-4 op clear the guy is like counting every single second is so crazy, like a literal stopwatch, n of the 3-4 op, one of them was stainless, cause he did some math n found out one turret will let his saria have enuf hps to outheal boss dps

[noble pewter]

wow did the deepcolor s2 duration literally just ended n the dodge buff was still on at the moment the atk landed ?

[fiery marsh]

Penance bait the First with s3, deepcolor need to Just make mylnar Dodge the second

[boreal magnet]

my healer just kep fking dying on h12-1

[real marten]

Does honeyberry even do anything

[storm current]

For H12-4, no

[cyan gorge]

She delays the inevitable

[real marten]

I do think she's healing the elemental damage enuff

[storm current]

Cuz boss insta proc corrosion

[real marten]

Dont*

Damn

Reedlater time

[fiery marsh]

For any hell stages actually, at least my e1 honeyberry

[noble pewter]

try deploy them diagonally, no adjacent ppl in 4 squares, n dont make them last deployed or else boss single target them, n make sure they have at least 1.6k hp

[storm current]

Eyjalt work tho

[real marten]

My honeybees has s1m3 and can't sustain lol

[boreal magnet]

oh does the splash attack do cross dmg?

[storm current]

Since eyja give -60% elemental dmg receive

Hes

Yes

[real marten]

Hm

[storm current]

Altho keep in mind

Most of the dmg is not the cross

[fiery marsh]

So is really Just accept that you will have 0 def 💀

[real marten]

Can mountain clear top lane with 1 other op?

[storm current]

But rather, the insta corrosion proc and drone

[real marten]

Or is his hp pool to small

[noble pewter]

yea, when u see ur operator get the blue square below them, it is cross shape burst art dmg, then a drone hand will spawn n do more single target dmg to each of those op

[boreal magnet]

i see, thats why they're dying in a single clap

[noble pewter]

i not sure if the cross burst dmg depend on number of clone as well, i think it does, at 1.6k hp u prob can survive 2 clone burst, 1.9k survive 3 clone burst, but when 4 clone come maybe need 2.1k ish

[glass monolith]

WHAT DO YOU MEAN MODULE UNLOCK MISSION COMPLETE?

[karmic blade]

hrm do you still get reduced to 0 def if you have skalter and shining pointing at you

[noble pewter]

yes

[karmic blade]

well that's just shit, heh

guess it just keeps stacking -100 with floor (0) regardless of flat +def buffs

[glass monolith]

I wanted to burst boss with Suzu S3 but she died instantly but somehow her regen was just enough to make Mlynar survive

[weak gazelle]

3 blue box...
3 lane and boss with 2 clone again
this will take forever

[crisp bolt]

holy this was cursed

not sure why I added pozy in my comp when I never used her

[deft badger]

i don't know what u have, but eyja on the corner and op that can survive alone on the lower corner can revile spys on the way
if u can't kill the dudes that let the spys leak fast enough

that 3 spots have to be covered if u can't kill them fast

rest should hold like it is u just place them in cross shapes

[fiery marsh]

That is the mylnar option too

[deft badger]

thats my full setup

[deft badger]

btw would mlynar from here hit all 3? don't know his ulty range actually thats how many times i used that op xD
i know silver would

[fiery marsh]

Would, in my case is because i used mylnar to kill the 3 block guys without needing to block them

[versed arrow]

mlynar range is same as SA without the 2 tiles at the side.

[deft badger]

i am not blocking them anyway eyja kills them

[fiery marsh]

No eyja haver moment

[crisp bolt]

it does work with mlynar

that's what I did for my H12-1 clear

[fiery marsh]

Yeah

[deft badger]

silver has a bigger range on the side remember that much, wasn't sure how much mlynar has

[crisp bolt]

I used gnosis + executors to kill the 3 block guys

50% fragile is nice

[versed arrow]

I used kal myself on the 3 block guys also helping to reveal the civilians too

[crisp bolt]

I used kal to block the boss

[versed arrow]

finally beat h12-2, yato s3 is mvp.

[glass monolith]

Congrats on finishing easy mode of H12

[crisp bolt]

it's so weird because it's the first time I've had to use saria s2

[versed arrow]

I dont know how you ppl killed the first flying pillar with a sniper+defender. I cant even put both down fast enough without the sniper dying. The start was bad till I remember I had yalter.

[crisp bolt]

myrtle -> sail -> saria -> pozy

or you could just use april/fw and ignore beyblades

[ionic silo]

any tips for clearing OF-5 for Eyja's module? clear it 3-star with eyja and three other operators 😮

[crisp bolt]

unfortunately I haven't built either of those

[versed arrow]

i didnt raise fw, I tried april, april just kill beyblades most of the time tho

[crisp bolt]

what ops do you have?

[ionic silo]

let me take pics I have alot

[versed arrow]

eyja + laneholder + medic, I just put down eyja blaze and saria and afk tho

[crisp bolt]

OF-5 seems like just plop down eyja s3 and that works

[ionic silo]

ok thanks :), I've been hoping to get Saria in the recruitment so I could put her manfield skin on but no dice 😒

[foggy grove]

just put any blocker

plop eyja and medic

sleep

[ionic silo]

thanks yall

[versed arrow]

if you have lumen tho, you can bring him to do his module mission together

[ionic silo]

I dont have lumen came after I took a break from the game

[deft badger]

u will get one this month don't worry 🙂

[ionic silo]

oh nice 😮

[glass monolith]

And everyone will get trauma from 4 phase boss

[real marten]

Fuck it

I done did it

Bring myrrh guys

her talent is finally useful

You can stop the oneshot

[trail spear]

These things make me want to die

[glass monolith]

No, those things want to prepare you for bullshit of H12-2 and H12-4

[real marten]

Personally I thought they were easy to deal with, other then the first time I saw them

[trail spear]

So I discovered the solution

:3

[dark violet]

in h4 they're a sidenote yeah, h2 is tougher

[river atlas]

I found them pretty easy to counter in h2 personally

Tossing beagle down, activating a flag vg for dp, and immediately tossing down a sniper worked

[real marten]

Nah h2 was also pretty easy

I used mlynar for the left and reedalter for the right with some bait

Only the main stage where there was like 10 of them harder for me

[deft badger]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWjKRGqf3mY

the f-

[crisp bolt]

How

[tidal sedge]

if you have trouble with H12-4

[tidal sedge]

just do this ⬆️

ez

[glass monolith]

AHAHAHAHA, Boss can't summon phase 2 clone while doing global AoE bullshit? Same as chapter 11 boss is burstable during 7 second charge thingy?

He needed to burst at least 117200 damage (I counted 36% damage reduction from 2 clones) against 1080 def (minus whatever debuffs took away) in like 8 seconds

[tropic valve]

yeah you can skip

btw for H12-2 Archetto is one of the best pillar killers

[glass monolith]

Once again I am punished for not M3ing her for love of god

I'm too busy doing random shit than building my waifu

[fiery marsh]

You guys had success in the upper Lane of h12-4 with anything else than kalsit?

[glass monolith]

Before phase 2 - Specter (buffed by entire AH), when boss clone come assisted with medic
After phase 2 4th clone... YOOOOOLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO (activates S2 right before second boss AoE which my set up was weak agaisnt murders her)

[fiery marsh]

Meh need ah, i guess a kalsit borrow Will be mandarory to me

[glass monolith]

For H12-4 i went with good old AH + Mlynar

And still won by 🤏

[deft badger]

have to finish stainless first then mlynar then h12-4 gj to u guys who did it 😛 🫂

[glass monolith]

I won h8-4 because brute force. I won h9-6 because boss potato range and Ambriel + Goldenglow are global. I won H10-3 due some luck and timing. I won H11-4 because infinite stall abusing DR. I won H12-4.... Because.... I don't know that strat just died every time on same place and then worked

[tropic valve]

I won H8-4, H9-6, H10-3, H11-4 because Schwarz

H12-4...depends if my friends decide to ban Schwarz or not

[deft badger]

in ur case that would be friendship over if they do lol

[tropic valve]

nah they've done it before (and I've suffered as a result)

[eager gate]

Reject horse level Aak

horse will be inevitably powercrept

killing your own units will always be fun

[fiery marsh]

If i cant Cook something here i will need to wait until lumen, i really need a therapist range here

[tidal sedge]

if yall had to pick one vangaurd for a squad, between Siege and Flametail, who'd you pick?

flametail, but neither are great as a single vg

i do not have the BagFlag combo so thems are my options

ideally I would run flametail with a flag

myrtle is fine

[cyan gorge]

Texas + agent is my go to these days

[little ravine]

whats the general placement on h12-4 if you just want to tank damazati for like 10 minutes ?

[cyan gorge]

Block with a medic defender and 2-3 medics

[dark violet]

flametail

[jovial nest]

It's not even red

[dark violet]

I don't run another vanguard

[jovial nest]

[tropic valve]

Flametail because 3-block

unless it's content with lots of mobs, then Siege value

[dark violet]

even lots of mobs melt fast with sona

[turbid badge]

siege i like to use as cheap s3 guard

S2 overates smh

[astral swallow]

who would be a better operator to priortize pulling for, chalter or mlynar?

[turbid badge]

Mlynar, FOMO Chalter , both good units but mlynar can probably be argued to be better

[astral swallow]

i have a bunch of op helidrop units like surtr, texalter ,yalter, and alot of really good ones, but if i were to pull for horse i wouldnt have enough for chen and vise versa

[turbid badge]

i mean,, its your choice

do you really want ch’en

Are u sparking for her?

[astral swallow]

i mean shes cool but i really REALLY like both characters, i dont know which to choose

[astral swallow]

i have 220 pulls rn

and monthly pass

[turbid badge]

if ur really dedicated to spark ill go chalter and wait for mlynar again or gold cert which will take a (while to be honest) or you can get him on 6* selector next anniversary

[astral swallow]

i might just spark since i dont wanna wait a year, and then hope i get mlynar in jo11 which i should have 50-100 pulls for when it comes

both operators should also really help my roster

[turbid badge]

are u missing any on JO?

[astral swallow]

just penance, i have lee and pozy

[turbid badge]

you can always do some pulls on this banner actually idk how far eyja banner is,

[astral swallow]

its about like 2 and a half months away

should be jan 16-early feb

[orchid talon]

I think it’s further

[astral swallow]

i mean we all said that last year and we got gavialt in late jan

[orchid talon]

We have mumu/horo then there’s execalter, and Typhon and then finally eyjalter right?

Might be missing something in the middle there

[turbid badge]

jessica

[astral swallow]

jessica is after

[astral swallow]

also your forgetting the pinch out thing, and sn rerun

and ebenholz, and dorothy

[orchid talon]

Yeah, def more than 2.5 months imo, prob like half a year lol

[astral swallow]

id say late feb but idk where people are getting 16 jan from

alot of people believe its gonna be on the 16 jan

[orchid talon]

Cope tho I feel I want her to release soon too

[verbal sparrow]

playing through the adverse stages has taught me that I much prefer Ines S3 to S2

[turbid badge]

oh its right after

theyll be some deadweeks too

[astral swallow]

yeah so prob early feb at the earliest

[turbid badge]

oh wow

Jo11 is right after

eyja

[astral swallow]

yeah right after

i might just throw 20 pulls at it again and see if i can get something

i got blemi + saileach in 40

and i can almost buy gold cert pulls

i just need 30

[deft badger]

past 3 weeks have been boring af, would be happy with SN rerun or mumu right now don't care what they give us

[jovial nest]

someone didn't enjoy Ch12 eh?

and here i am, actually enjoying ch12 more than most recent events I played

[cyan gorge]

Fun mechanics that let me use fun ops

[orchid talon]

Ch 12 story was fire

Stage mechanics… eh a little easy

Glad flametail was finally used tho, built her and had 0 uses for her lol

[tidal sedge]

Noir2 s1 or s2 better

[full finch]

I've seen more people say S1

[tidal sedge]

I almost forgot he existed

[full finch]

both require you to do lots of button pressing and timing for mid effect

but he's solid overall

[deft badger]

a new chapter isn't a event

[cyan gorge]

Content is content

[jovial nest]

you know what an event is?

more clicks for shop

and autos

[deft badger]

yes and that's what i am asking for

[jovial nest]

unless the event had a gimmick that managed to engage me more than usual

they're the same

[deft badger]

i wanna play the game 😄

[full finch]

[cyan gorge]

Chap 12 is the game

[full finch]

don't need new content to play arknights

[deft badger]

most of us finished 12-20 the first hour after release

[jovial nest]

the only events so far that really felt fresh and engaging were NL and IC. But IC just shat all over NL's usage of unorthodox operator direction

[deft badger]

since then we have been waiting for hell stages wich again most people finished the first day

i spend the past 3 weeks running autos

[cyan gorge]

Then that’s on you for rushing content

[jovial nest]

indeed

no one told you to eat everything in under an hour

[full finch]

go optimize 12-20 or something
see if you can do it with 8 ops or less

[deft badger]

nearly even forgot 2 days in a row to come online so yeah new chapter isn't a event and isn't making me play

[river atlas]

play niche knights

[jovial nest]

hell, i took an entire weekend to read the story slowly

[full finch]

I'm still on chapter 11

[jovial nest]

in your description, 80% of events I've played aren't events then

so many mediocre gimmicks

[tidal sedge]

I ran out of time during the maria nearl event because I didnt want to rush reading the story 💀

[deft badger]

well u finish them first day xD but still u clear a shop do at least something

[river atlas]

cope

[jovial nest]

the only reason I felt compelled to even use my brain on em is I tend to do trust farms during it

so i low ops'd as a self-challenge

[cyan gorge]

He’s probably gonna complain that LT is boring after speedrunning the main stages

[storm current]

By your definition of "event have farming"

Well in chapter release its the best time to farm rock actually

[jovial nest]

probably? more like certain

[deft badger]

nah the past 3 months have been great

[orchid talon]

This is why I try for the first week no mlynar yato Texas

[jovial nest]

chapters have more stages and they consumed it in such a short time

[deft badger]

event after event i was happy

[jovial nest]

imagine events

with only 8-9 normal stages usually

[orchid talon]

Then after if I can’t beat it still I add in Texas, then if not still I add mlynar

[storm current]

Chapters H stages are harder than EX typically

[jovial nest]

TWICE the speed

[orchid talon]

It made my experience way more enjoyable

[storm current]

Luckily theres no CM for H

[jovial nest]

imagine that

[full finch]

extreme mode with adverse enviro

[tidal sedge]

well they cant make it cost extra sanity or it would be lame

[solid dew]

been wanting to ask at some point, but did you leave the server and then rejoin or something
is that why the leafs are by ur username

[turbid badge]

attack buff on atatck buff

stat*

[tidal sedge]

🥬 🚬

[full finch]

well extreme mode stages already have stage effects

so technically they are CM

[jovial nest]

yeah

adverse are the CM

since they show the added conditions

but imagine.....H MAPS WITH CM

[cyan gorge]

H12-4 cm, boss clones double

[jovial nest]

H12-3 feels rougher for me.

just because you're forced to do all the civs in one go

i guess the EZ mode there is all of them are blue

so you only want to get as much as you can for cap

[cyan gorge]

It’s rough until you realize 2 pioneers > Bagflag there

[jovial nest]

H8-4 CM, civs are one hits now

H11-4 CM, MORE MAWS

[cyan gorge]

Still doable

[jovial nest]

sure but for me I still have to make the squad as utilized as possible. Don't want too many ops just there purely for the civ inspection

[jovial nest]

very

[astral swallow]

ch12 was probably the most fun chapter ive ever played, i truly enjoyed dismantling the boss with ifrit yalter spam

[jovial nest]

nothing beats IC for me

so far

wait you mean only chapters?

ch12 yeah

[cyan gorge]

I opened with Texas, Courier, Gummy and had 40+ dp cap from the start

[jovial nest]

[astral swallow]

ch12 was a walk in the park compared to ch11

i still havent beat ch11 boss on adverse

my nian just goes poof

[cyan gorge]

Nian needs mod to tank off skill

[wary nexus]

Can i get some help with this stage? I can get boss down once before the stairs, but cant manage the second wave and his second stage

[verbal sparrow]

steam knight? Just Specter it

[jovial nest]

thats because Ch11 was just the most inflated stats on enemies with insane abiltiies

it is a goddamn endgame check

and that difficulty was NOT engaging

[astral swallow]

the boss has too much hp and just spams rockets

[jovial nest]

cause it made me use Ling a lot again haha

[jovial nest]

truth be told, the boss was a great wake up call for me to actually invest on tanks

HEALABLE tanks

not just Mon3tr or Mudrock

[verbal sparrow]

try invulnerable tanks

[jovial nest]

has duration

meh

[crisp bolt]

Spalter vs missiles

[astral swallow]

same lol

[solid dew]

i found this the other way around personally, i beat all the 11/H11 stages with next to no challenge.
12 although taking me a bit longer i still did in a couple hours (including H12)

[astral swallow]

i raised my saria to e2 69 and nian to e2

[verbal sparrow]

it took me just 2 tries for steam knight with spalter. I lucked out with her placement near the center

[crisp bolt]

Fun fact, spalter doll transition cancels sk missiles

[jovial nest]

outside of H11-4, ch11 was a breeze of just spamming Ling

Tex2 too

[full finch]

unironically using ling

[crisp bolt]

I can't say much because I haven't done ch11 adverse yet

[full finch]

no wonder you didn't enjoy chap 11

[jovial nest]

dude

i wouldn't enjoy ch11 period

do you know those dogs?

[turbid badge]

Chapter 11 was just ROTCHASER HELL

[jovial nest]

sheeesh

[full finch]

the dogs are fine lol

[turbid badge]

the arts dot was insane

[astral swallow]

ch11 was just mudrock holds all +1 block slugs and kill all the elite enemies with texalter (besides boss and h stages)

[full finch]

just use a medic

[jovial nest]

i refuse!

[full finch]

skill issue

[turbid badge]

i refuse

who uses medic fr

[cyan gorge]

Wrong chapter

[full finch]

I use medics all the time

especially ones not named kal'tsit

[astral swallow]

wait no mb i didnt mean slugs

[turbid badge]

on the last Sk stage i held with eunectus and blemi left with feeding the vore eaters

[astral swallow]

i meant the things that leave that toxic gas when they die

[verbal sparrow]

trash mob

zombies

punching bags in operator showcases

[cyan gorge]

My only gripe with chap 11 and 12 is that the mechanics make it difficult to use Penance

[full finch]

penans

[verbal sparrow]

my favorite penance is called gravel

[jovial nest]

i mostly use her in IS3 and SSS

outside of those, kinda rare

[tidal sedge]

she is my bossikiller for floor 3

[jovial nest]

my most effective bosskiller usually is a 5x Sniper Gnosis

cause everyone else can't reach the boss unless it's a 5x Sniper GG

[tidal sedge]

oh I mean for IS

Idk even know how sss works anymore

I never had a problem with it when it came out unlike most ppl

[full finch]

same

I'm still bad at it

[wary nexus]

Bump

[full finch]

is that uh

10-17 adv?

[tidal sedge]

are you borrowing anyone

[full finch]

have you tried using ntrk S3

[wary nexus]

Yes

[wary nexus]

Does it hit through his shield?

[full finch]

yes

[wary nexus]

Huh

[full finch]

he has 80% dodge

[tidal sedge]

you made us sound like con artists

[full finch]

but true damage just ignores it

the cannon also disables it for a while

[storm current]

Or optionally pozy

[wary nexus]

I will try s3, thanks

[full finch]

pozy/schwarz also works if equipped with the correct module

[solid dew]

cirn lurking

[tropic valve]

I actually came here to say, if you're having trouble with Steam Knight in ch11, try Eunectes S3

[full finch]

eun moment

[solid dew]

fight one big mech with another
steam knights are basically mechs right lol

[full finch]

gundamknights

[jovial nest]

i tried going the S2 route but here's a flash news to that idea. It's difficult to even charge her skills in that environment. You're better off borrowing Nian instead for a solid stall

[tidal sedge]

use mousse

[jovial nest]

I guess the best lesson I got from that is

range nuke those Maws

I was lacking in that part

once they eat someone, it's even more troublesome. Although letting Maws eat someone is a nice idea to cheat the redep timer.

[tidal sedge]

eyjalter is unironically pretty busted for ch10

[jovial nest]

the artillery gimmick?

how?

[tidal sedge]

+40% maximum hp + heals,

[full finch]

eyja is just an excellent medic in general
basically makes anyone not named nightingale useless

[tidal sedge]

my gladiia just took a cannon shot for free

[jovial nest]

that reminds me. Hoed again. Eyjaberry is a great partner with that guy

[full finch]

+40% max HP is only with p5

[tidal sedge]

ah right I remember

well..... I have max pot

[full finch]

extremely based

[crisp bolt]

[jovial nest]

max pot Gladiia?

[tidal sedge]

this make me happy

[full finch]

🛐

[tidal sedge]

this make me want to quit ak

[full finch]

surely swire is good

[fringe jackal]

That's going to be me in 3 months

[tidal sedge]

Swire alter, hmm.

Funny talent, not sure what to make of her skills

she is ok

[crisp bolt]

S2 is fun. S3 has hilarious shift

[tidal sedge]

her s3

[full finch]

iirc her S1 is the most well received

[tidal sedge]

isnt funny enough

[full finch]

good ground healing

[tidal sedge]

I think I calculated how much dmg she does when I activate her s3, and it was like 20k

[crisp bolt]

Limited healing in specknights ao

[tidal sedge]

I figured, s1 aids blocking/stalling

how many low weight enemies survive 20k dmg

[full finch]

anything kills trash, and probably for less DP 💀

[tidal sedge]

Does releasing s3 proc Spinach/Pasta?

[full finch]

I don't think so

[tidal sedge]

[full finch]

because you're ending the skill

[tidal sedge]

Unfortunate

what is spinich/pasta 🛐

[full finch]

relic from IS

[tidal sedge]

The relics in IS

ah

[crisp bolt]

The atk for 1 sec on skill

[full finch]

if only it worked better on horn

[tidal sedge]

limit her range to closest 3 tiles of her range

[cyan gorge]

It only doesn’t work at max range

[tidal sedge]

S3 seems funny with black Spec book

[full finch]

it only works on the closest tile of her range

[tidal sedge]

Force 3 10 hit push

[full finch]

which is like
the least of her use

[tidal sedge]

ive had it work for like the middle of the 6tiles

[full finch]

oh yeah
lurker, does horn S2 proc pasta/spinach?

it'd be something similar to that

[tidal sedge]

No idea. I don't have Horn

[full finch]

don't you know everything

[cyan gorge]

If you mean the ammo explosion then no

[tidal sedge]

I've taken a 4-5 month break, I'm out of shape on that front unfortunately

[full finch]

wb

[tidal sedge]

guys hear me out
swindler powercrept ch'en

[full finch]

[tidal sedge]

Thanks

swindler on s3 does like thorns dps....... although only 1.2k dmg per hit

Hmm. Buff meme s3

[full finch]

they both hit 10 times and ch'en has better scaling

[tidal sedge]

sure, in burst alone

BUT

Swindler can lanehold on s3

[full finch]

"lanehold"

[tidal sedge]

it only costs30 dp a min

and she does thorns dmg

with similar def break to mountain

[full finch]

it only costs 30 dp/min wtf

[tidal sedge]

with 1 block......

[full finch]

[tidal sedge]

Huh. Her s1 healing is better than I expected

[jovial nest]

30 DP too many

[full finch]

yeah and the raised HP gate is nice

not too high and not too low

flashbacks to mlynar dying in cc12

[tidal sedge]

Yeah. Sometimes guardians can be frustrating due to not topping off ops for important hits/attacks