strategy

[scarlet ledge]

i still to reinstallp my jp for pulling

lmfao

i love qui bai on this map

[latent anvil]

Ew yucky

So bad luck

I got 59 first 6 reed alt new

37 later yeti

Not horrendous but not good

[deft badger]

i don't even wanna say what i got, people are going to get mad or call me a liar like the last time 😄

[loud heath]

[turbid badge]

[cursive mango]

How good is Schwarz skin

And also scene skin

[scarlet ledge]

i prefer her christmas one

[turbid badge]

Red eye

all the new skins are good

Tbh

[fierce hawk]

So

Anybody know how to clear the new mode

Any OP units I should bring in

[scarlet ledge]

always bring laneholder

[fierce hawk]

I'm running out of food on the 2nd day fk

[scarlet ledge]

maps on that game is lane holder heavy

[fierce hawk]

Only thing I know is always bring SA cuz there's a lot of redeployment happening

[surreal star]

not me running doro texas for everything

[scarlet ledge]

@surreal star i have 38 pulls left guaranteed for ya2

[deft badger]

starting from texas and penance i was aiming for texas pots pulling 30 of my own and what we got for the event i ended up with 1 texas and pod 5 penance (so 40 or 50 in total)

• reed was 8th
• kal in 20
• cho was the worst 120 but i got a, blaze - lin x4 - cho
• QB in 20
• Yato 13th

[scarlet ledge]

gonna wait for next week

lmfao

[surreal star]

bro i got shining mostima pots

took like 80 pulls for a copy

[scarlet ledge]

i got thorns dupe

worse dupe

i got

not even good dupe

[fierce hawk]

Idk why but reed alter is a hidden gem

[surreal star]

gonna get p2 after the second tenpull

[storm current]

I just got SA dupe and yato in the entire 120 rolls

[fierce hawk]

Literally better than most caster units

[storm current]

Eh

[soft salmon]

how 2 cheese rathalos

[storm current]

Thats just how she is

[surreal star]

is she really hidden though?

[quick pecan]

i got 3 yato in 90 pulls 💀

[fierce hawk]

Both burst (s3) and sustain(s2)

[scarlet ledge]

use stun grenade

then abuse wirebug

[storm current]

You take the cricket thing the allow redeploy

[fierce hawk]

I don't see many people using her

[storm current]

Borrow surtr

Wdym

She is fairly popular lol

[fierce hawk]

Btw which skill you guys for reed alter??

[storm current]

Its well known how strong she is

[scarlet ledge]

s2

[storm current]

Literally stronger than most casters

[fierce hawk]

S2???

[scarlet ledge]

s3 fell off quickly with enemy having res

and hp

[soft salmon]

Oh wait I actually need to use the gadgets

[scarlet ledge]

and low trash mob

[fierce hawk]

I use s3 fk

[storm current]

You can use the wire bug to redeploy surtr

[surreal star]

i’ll bring s3 for blind runs but s2 is for when i actually know the stage

[storm current]

Keeping surtr perma

[fierce hawk]

I should switch to s2

I'm using her as a caster

Not as a medic

[scarlet ledge]

use s3 then

[quick pecan]

reed alter is outdamaging a lot of casters while having more utility than them

kinda wild

[fierce hawk]

Yeah

S3 has good amount of heal too

[scarlet ledge]

ngl i rarelt use my reed2 on cn

lmfao

[quick pecan]

her voicelines are asmr too

[scarlet ledge]

its judt eyja for me

[fierce hawk]

As long as theres a lot of enemy mobs

[fierce hawk]

Lmao

[fierce hawk]

Eyja + reed alter to melt enemies

[scarlet ledge]

eyja s3 is just reliable

for any map

[quick pecan]

kinda interested to see incantation module whenever it comes out

[fierce hawk]

Agreed

S2 for dps

[fierce hawk]

Can't wait! Big fan of the archetype

[quick pecan]

hopefully not a lazy +5%/10% atk for x condition like some base modules

[fierce hawk]

Except for the 5 star one

Fking sucks lol

[quick pecan]

hibiscus alter??

she’s ok

but yeah

[scarlet ledge]

she is ok

lul

its just 6★ kit is dumb

[quick pecan]

she cycles pretty fast

[scarlet ledge]

u can cycle hibi2 s2 very fast

lmfao

[quick pecan]

a fast cycling slow is pretty nice

only really limited by 2 target

[scarlet ledge]

plus

if u use her s2

her healing zamn

but ye

[quick pecan]

i feel like a module could make her pretty serviceable

but yeah

reed got the 6* go brrr treatment

i kind of want hibiscus alter for my 5* knights runs 🗿

[scarlet ledge]

gladi got hibi2 on my all acc

lmfao

@quick pecan hibi2 judt got ignored because of reed2

[quick pecan]

basically

but tbh

there are worse 5*

if we get technical

[scarlet ledge]

aosta

[quick pecan]

nightmare was the prototype for the archetype

[scarlet ledge]

flameb doing fine rn

sincenmodule

made him thicc

[quick pecan]

i feel like new 6* are just so far ahead of old standards now

that the 5* generally just get overlooked regardless of anything

[remote ice]

How the heck does the stun grenade work, I put it down but nothing happens

[scarlet ledge]

stun enemy

wtf

[latent anvil]

you see the square it lands on

its not on itself, its a few tile away

[quick pecan]

last time i saw 5* hype was cantabile

[scarlet ledge]

my canta is e0

[quick pecan]

i raised her

for 5* knights

i like agents

[scarlet ledge]

my cn canta is rarely used now

ines taken her place

ines just have better util

[quick pecan]

yeah ines is once again showing 6* is just 5*+++++++

emphasis on the +

[scarlet ledge]

plus ines s2 range

is so helpful

[quick pecan]

i like that ines has map presence even when off field

[scarlet ledge]

u can set her invi reveal

[quick pecan]

yup

and the movement spd reduction too

[scarlet ledge]

@quick pecan my dumb alt clear on h11-4

[quick pecan]

i still have not finished ch 11 stages

i rushed up to t3 salt recipe stage for chong yue masteries and reed e2 🗿

[remote ice]

Oh ranthalos is just immune to stun

[scarlet ledge]

ngl if i want to do bearknights on this event

[remote ice]

While sitting

[quick pecan]

but yostar has not been giving me a break

[scarlet ledge]

im lazy rn

[quick pecan]

this en schedule is 💀

[scarlet ledge]

en schedule is just a mess

[latent anvil]

the schedule

is fried

[fathom gust]

how to meta slave in reclamation

[quick pecan]

dorothy meta

[eternal idol]

Is feeding my iso tank with food from stages the only thing I do with them and can a operator have multiple food buffs active

[frigid kite]

Hi pros

How is Yato alter

[tropic valve]

she's quite good I must say, I mean she's no Schwarz, but decent at least

[deft badger]

🤦‍♂️ i will be sure to send u a schwarz pillow for ur BDay in case u don't already have one

i bet u would like that lul

[frigid kite]

[cursive wedge]

hello #strategy how do i get more pulls

[frigid kite]

Get good or uninstall

[cursive wedge]

[long epoch]

Reroll a new account.

[main crescent]

Pimp my squad ples

[cursive wedge]

yes somehow get 100 pulls on new account

[frigid kite]

Well on a serious note, you have another 10 free pulls later sl

Gz

[cursive wedge]

yea ik

but it’s v sad tho

having to go all 120

[frigid kite]

Why bait me

[cursive wedge]

on ash i got her on 60

[frigid kite]

What do you need?

Like, are you having troubles with stages or just quite recommendation

[main crescent]

Recommendations that would get me through the story i guess

[frigid kite]

Level up Kroos to E1 55 and optionally Steward

As for Vanguards, you can ignore leveling all, except Myrtle for Masteries

[turbid badge]

Its kkay

10 pull at the end

[frigid kite]

But not as any priority, just later later

[turbid badge]

of the login

Mumu

tbh looking forward to lonetrail alot

just cuz the story

[frigid kite]

Jeez what a choice of guards to level up

Just look at that teta

Hmm get Midnight to E1 55 you dont have Arene anyways and maybe level up Matoimaru, she is pretty good as a tanky guard unit

Can you get Yato R?

Oh also, Saria can carry you pretty hard on story

[turbid badge]

make do of what u got

saria and exu carye

also Myrtle s1 charges faster than s2

[frigid kite]

If you can rush E2 on Yato R thats another carry

[main crescent]

I alr rolled some lvl 1 there is what i got

[frigid kite]

Keep pulling

[turbid badge]

keep pulling for Her

[main crescent]

Even like 1 pull only?

[frigid kite]

That's gambling

Oh and if you need like, desperate AoE

Level Gitano

And, optionally, Popukar

Some extras, i think totter kills invisible

Thats all

Oh Pinecone is also good for AoE

[turbid badge]

dont they have shirayuki

shirayuki pinecone gaming

[frigid kite]

Btw

Another good guard you can get is Rathalos

And he is 5* so

Win win

[turbid badge]

Hes a decent musha yea

[fierce hawk]

How good

Is ebeholtz?

Just got her

[deft badger]

sending auto runs since 5 hours, i am in pain...

[turbid badge]

its a man

[deft badger]

isn't that the caster with 1 AA per min xD

[turbid badge]

also hes used as a arts nuke or is3 s2 shenanigans with the mystic caster sp relic

and base

[fierce hawk]

Aa?

It's supposed to be a boss killer

[storm current]

AA here mean auto attack

basciall just basic attack

[fierce hawk]

i already finished is lol

[storm current]

ebenholz is specialized in elite/boss due to his s3

[fierce hawk]

Ahhhh gets gets

[turbid badge]

just some fun stuff with him i guess that u can try

[storm current]

but otherwise fairly weak since no wave clear

[deft badger]

auto attack, AA not just hear overall in games means the same

[storm current]

and obviously no res shred/ignore to deal with high res enemies

[fierce hawk]

Ok won't prioritize this unit then

[turbid badge]

hes just to one shot stuff to ignore mechanics or speedclear

[fierce hawk]

Back to ifrit

[fierce hawk]

Only for boss right

Rip waves

[turbid badge]

Yea s3 cant hit non elites

[fierce hawk]

I think eben + reed alter can work

[deft badger]

still how good is he actually? i never tried him..

[fierce hawk]

With res debuff

[storm current]

eh

reed amplify art dmg

not reduce res

[turbid badge]

just use saria s3

[storm current]

its a big difference

[fierce hawk]

Ahhhhhh right righ

[storm current]

tbh

if you have reed

you can just use reed lol

[turbid badge]

woops

[deft badger]

i don't even have him but i expected he is just garbage xD
since i don't see people run him

[fierce hawk]

HAHAHAHAHA IKR

[turbid badge]

i meant to reply to the other guy

[storm current]

since their role are similar

[turbid badge]

[storm current]

but reed is better at pretty much anything

[fierce hawk]

Reed is more versatile

Wave clear + nuke+ heal

Basically the only unit that can do almost everything except block

[turbid badge]

honestly i never even used eben with his second module

[fierce hawk]

I'll just hunt surtr and get that

Have you guys seen typhon???

She is strong asf, can kill a lot of boss

[turbid badge]

how bigs the aoe on eben second module

[frigid kite]

She is ok... When you can use her, pretty good for Ep 11, since she can kill the tanks and help a lot with the boss

[turbid badge]

yea shes pretty good

[storm current]

about aoe caster splash

1.7 tile

[fierce hawk]

My conviction to not raise ebenholtz just got stronger

Ep 11 unit again

[frigid kite]

Wao

[storm current]

a lot of people compare typhon with schwarz/pozy/chalter

but they dont realize typhon doesnt compete with their tile

[fierce hawk]

Schwartz is outdated

Pozy is better

[storm current]

some compare her with rosa

but literally no one use rosa

so

[fierce hawk]

The long range and versatile locked target of typhon is insane imo

Skill 3 becomes global

[deft badger]

@tropic valve look what he did say about schwarz 😄

trigger alert hahahaha

[fierce hawk]

Almost forgot about this operator, nobody mentions her lmao

[deft badger]

schwarz is a good op btw... don't shit on her because there is a pozy in the game

[storm current]

???

she is not used that much even when pozy didnt exist

are you really take opinion from a schwarz simp that schwarz is good

[plucky flint]

I mean, I would say Schwarz is good, but coming from sniper player kinda invalidates my take

[storm current]

there was a time back in 2020 where schwarz was used for high def high res enemies

[plucky flint]

[storm current]

no

not a sniper player

[fierce hawk]

Schwarz was non existent even before pozy

[storm current]

a literal schwarz simp

and nah

schwarz is fine

[remote ice]

I like schwarz but I almost never use her over Pozy

[storm current]

but her unpopularity is understandable

[tropic valve]

Schwarz has always been the queen of Integrated Strategies

[storm current]

and not everyone care about IS

[plucky flint]

I mean, I also say Schwarz is still good, but again, I main sniper so I don't know in other's perspective

[storm current]

and its your bias

[remote ice]

But that might be cause my schwarz sucks

[fierce hawk]

IS became childs play when you get most afk units

[storm current]

schwarz is fine

the cases where schwarz being better than pozy is too rare

[tropic valve]

also SSS but people get scared by SSS so I don't advertise that as much

[fierce hawk]

I got shwarz e0 lvl 1

Lmao

[storm current]

???

no one use schwarz in SSS

lack AOE

as well as range limitation

[tropic valve]

Schwarz is literally the best sniper in SSS

[fierce hawk]

SSS is easy tho

[deft badger]

i think u didn't understand my point, he was comparing her to pozy which again i am going to say don't call other ops shit because someone made brain afk pozy - mylnar - texas'alter and so on

[fierce hawk]

Just golden glow it

[storm current]

im waiting for you to tell me why

why would schwarz being the best

[deft badger]

who do u talking to actually right now?

xD

[plucky flint]

I wouldn't say this one, mody Schwarz hits harder than pozy, and also finding a place where you can make pozy and type hit in same tile is kinda restricting

[storm current]

in SSS, you get a lot of atk buff, the high dph aspect of schwarz isnt that important

[fierce hawk]

The s3 of shwarz becomes 1 lane attack, which limits usage

[tropic valve]

https://youtu.be/ck5WuFMqPk4?si=U4KPXrxZlpk0vKFY

[fierce hawk]

Would have been better with full range

[tropic valve]

Schwarz is one of the few snipers worth actually using in SSS as non-fodder

[storm current]

???
chalter exist

[tropic valve]

chalter too

[deft badger]

broo... xD

[storm current]

if anything

[fierce hawk]

Yeah true, just stack some low dp cost if sniper buff is needed

[storm current]

you rather use melee comp

[tropic valve]

Chalter and Schwarz are basically the the 2 mvps of Storn's sniperknights record

[storm current]

which is strictly better

also in that video

you literally force schwarz to do everything tho

[tropic valve]

that's the point

[storm current]

???

instead of running multiple dps carry

you stall

[plucky flint]

It's supposed to be pozy mvp than chalter?

[storm current]

for 1 unit

[plucky flint]

Or what vid is that

[tropic valve]

you can't force just anyone to do everything and still beat emergency with no resets

[deft badger]

i am going to salt-mine till he stops naming broken brain afk ops...

[storm current]

instead of schwarz

[fierce hawk]

Idk why but it looks like Schwartz is struggling to deal damage

[gentle finch]

I've been lurking for a while now

[storm current]

you can use chalter in that map

[gentle finch]

this is interesting

[storm current]

and she will do everything better

[turbid badge]

[storm current]

normally schwarz can out dmg chalter against high def

[fierce hawk]

Ifrit instead of schwartz would be better on that map

[storm current]

but in SSS

[fierce hawk]

Since the enemy comp lacks arts def or something

[storm current]

chalter just has more atk to counter said weakness

[remote ice]

Mfw I have no chalter

[storm current]

you can borrow

or you know

get mlynar

personally melee comp is a lot more reliable in SSS

[tropic valve]

this vide: https://youtu.be/bPC1hbR06xA?si=ikxb5KrpD2jaV68b

[turbid badge]

have people tried Chalter and hunter archetype

[storm current]

yes

it doesnt work

[gentle finch]

SSS is too boring if you run same comp all the time

[storm current]

chalter only work for ammo skill

hunter is trait ammo

[fierce hawk]

I haven't tried this, how sustainable is that comp? And what buffs do you build?

[turbid badge]

aw man

[plucky flint]

Sss alone is already boring

[storm current]

@gentle finch i mean i wont suggest the fun comp for usual player

like

[fierce hawk]

I've been using range units on SSS

Mainly stacking sniper buffs

[storm current]

mostima is technically fun too

but not highly suggested cuz its unoptimal

[tropic valve]

but back to my original point, no one has as much carrying power as Schwarz in IS except maybe Pozy

[fierce hawk]

Mostima is a very niche unit

[storm current]

in SSS

[gentle finch]

being one of the best snipers in SSS doesn't mean she is optimal

[turbid badge]

im bored so ima try noir corne SSS

[deft badger]

look, i am fine when u like seeing big numbers but some people like to challenge them selves and make it work with ops they like
there is nothing wrong at that, but just stop insulting their intelligence for not using any of the broken stupid solutions u just named

[tropic valve]

there's a reason Schwarz appeared in every single IS2 relicless hard mode clear

[gentle finch]

since almost all snipers are just fodder anyways

[fierce hawk]

Noir corne + defender buff

HAHAHAHAHAH

Imagine lane holding that

[storm current]

no

if they go for the fun part and all

its different

[turbid badge]

noir corne S :

lmao

[storm current]

actively saying XXX better than YYY cuz of bias

thats another matter

[turbid badge]

i just wanna see him spam s1

[storm current]

his argument that schwarz better than pozy

[fierce hawk]

Wonder if he'll survive with 6 enemies blocked

[storm current]

is cuz IS hard mode relicless

[turbid badge]

he should

[storm current]

as well as IS high D

[turbid badge]

with the punching relic

and if enemy doesnt do arts

[fierce hawk]

He got no aoe, and can't receive outside heal

[turbid badge]

ohhh

[storm current]

totally disregard of the significance of other situation

[turbid badge]

wtf

[fierce hawk]

Other than some units

[fierce hawk]

Yeah

[turbid badge]

Why would u give him 6 block

[storm current]

pozy is more than just dps

[fierce hawk]

He can't be healed by normal means

[plucky flint]

But saying pozy powercrept Schwarz is kinda bias too tho

[storm current]

cuz typewriter is global attacker

[fierce hawk]

HAHAHAHAH

[storm current]

nah

[fierce hawk]

Tank type noir corne

[storm current]

you can say like

[turbid badge]

just give him enough Aspd so he have better hps🙏

[storm current]

ceobe can out dps eyja

[fierce hawk]

Nah it ain't bias, that's just how it is

[storm current]

goldenglow can out dps eyja

but they arent bias

but there are a lot of more situation where pozy is favorable

[plucky flint]

Have you actually use both, like a lot of times?

[fierce hawk]

Yep

[tropic valve]

if it was just one map, sure you could say I'm cherrypicking something Schwarz is good at to make a biased argument, but IS2 and IS3 each have 50+ different maps

[fierce hawk]

Pozy is a staple in my comp

Atleast before I got chalter

[storm current]

in those IS2 and IS3 maps

[fierce hawk]

And exu

When I got chalter snd exu

[storm current]

pozy is also as good as schwarz for similar reason

[fierce hawk]

I stopped using pozy

[plucky flint]

Exu

[turbid badge]

[tropic valve]

yes Pozy is also very good at carrying IS, I've never denied that

[frigid kite]

Just use Mlynar

[tropic valve]

she and Schwarz are #1 and #2 carries in IS3 in some order depending on your team comp and ending

[fierce hawk]

Just use afk team ops

[plucky flint]

Well, again, my perspective and preference is different, but I'll still say pozy and Schwarz still on the same level

[fierce hawk]

Some endings are hard asf

[storm current]

every time your argument is schwarz is better than pozy tho

[fierce hawk]

Is 2 with the bear thing

[tropic valve]

not everytime, it depends on the map

for example bear ending Schwarz is better

OOC Pozy is better

[storm current]

in IS4

pozy is better as well

[fierce hawk]

Wtf is is4?????

[tropic valve]

I don't know anything about IS4 and I don't want to

spoilers

[fierce hawk]

Is there IS 4????

[storm current]

IS4 is strictly about fast enemies

[turbid badge]

yes

[storm current]

very unfavorable for schwarz

[turbid badge]

in cn

[fierce hawk]

Bruh

[tropic valve]

but I will try it on relicless D15 when it comes out and update my judgment accordingly

[fierce hawk]

We need it

For the rewards

[storm current]

not until IS3 content is done

but yes, aside from SSS

pozy is better in most other situation

[fierce hawk]

What's the max level for is3?

[plucky flint]

Dog rush?

[fierce hawk]

I already cleared is2 and 3

[fierce hawk]

Mostima time

[storm current]

uh arkenemies dont have is4 enemies yett

hold on

also yes

unironically

mostima is meta for IS4

[fierce hawk]

LMAO tot so

Also lee

[storm current]

enemies dont have bloated res like in IS3

[fierce hawk]

Probably

[storm current]

so caster is no longer dead

[tropic valve]

keep in mind everyone told me Schwarz was bad in IS3 before they saw my videos, e.g.
https://youtu.be/8cx1UXKsblM?si=ZPeElG-txyWXGgOf

[fierce hawk]

If there's a lot of enemies that has fast movement speed it'll have less than 2 weight, which lee is very good at dealing with

[turbid badge]

yea

reedic for ed1

yato s3

[storm current]

there are videos of mostima, mizuki and some other in D15

start

doesnt matter much

[tropic valve]

yes you can start with anyone

if you know the maps well enough

[turbid badge]

what if they just

speed past lee

[storm current]

Vanguard: Ines

Guard: Mlynar

Sniper: Typhon, Pozy, Chalter

Specialist: Yato, Texas

Medic: Reed, Kal

Caster: Mostima, Lin
*Pick Goldenglow if atk speed relic, pick Hool if levitate relic

Defender: Spot, Mudrock

Supporter: no one

so far its the main IS4 meta

[tropic valve]

but if you try to never recruit any other 6* and do wonderland or other endings

[storm current]

could change when we get 4th ending

[tropic valve]

you'll find it's quite hard at D15 unless that 6* is Schwarz or Pozy

simply because 6* Heavyshooters are built different

[turbid badge]

No supporters?

[fierce hawk]

Wonder if typhon can lock on to boss that dont move like the bear on is2

[storm current]

supporter is dead

[fierce hawk]

That would be too op

[storm current]

ling is dead

[tropic valve]

same reason why every single quarterfinals contestant in Mizuki Cup picked Schwarz

[turbid badge]

it should

[fierce hawk]

Yeah if it can that would be too op imp

[plucky flint]

no suzu?

[fierce hawk]

Since typon deals a lot of damage

[storm current]

that is from the CN player collective thought

suzu might have the issue of no dps

[fierce hawk]

True tho

I have ling

And like

[storm current]

even mostima has more dmg than suzu kekw

[fierce hawk]

I don't want to e2 cuz it gets boring

Relying on that 1 unit

[turbid badge]

?

[storm current]

you prob can still use skalter same as usual

[fierce hawk]

And it also sucks summon can't get healed rip

[storm current]

just not optimal use of hope

[gentle finch]

if you're not broke you can use her on and off

ling

[turbid badge]

i like ho’ol alot in ed2 funny levitate spam with aspd and levitate relic

[tropic valve]

I'm not a fan of Ling in IS but she can be used for some low op strats against Highmorb

[gentle finch]

I mean ling in general

[tropic valve]

dragons dying to ranged enemies is a big problem

[fierce hawk]

HAHAHAHAHAH ho'ol is fun to use

With traps

[deft badger]

how do they plan us to clear that shop, i am 800 sanity down and not even half of it

[storm current]

the event last for another 2 week

[tropic valve]

I would also caution following CN meta too closely, because they can be a good reference but they aren't 100% optimal either, if they were then global and JP would never set any records because we are 6 months behind, but the truth is that we manage to get a good amount of records in spite of the 6 month gap

for example, Azu did a very impressive 5* Relicless D15 run that was never done in CN

[fierce hawk]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA we don't

Last event I wasn't able to clear the shop

Even though I used 260+ sanities a day

[remote ice]

Has there ever been an event where natural sanity isn’t enough to clear an event shop?

[turbid badge]

yes

[fierce hawk]

Yes

[turbid badge]

a bunch actually if u didnt claim@the sanity pots from@last week or smth

one of them i remmeber was Ga

[deft badger]

i wish there wouldn't be so many furniture parts in it, i don't even know what to do with them i like never buy furniture and i have like 50k+

[proud shore]

is my mind stoobid because is 3am or phase 2 rathalos has over 300k hp

[deft badger]

normaly i just ignor it, now game is giving it to me because of rng -.-

[fierce hawk]

Have you cleared out the shop? For furniture sets?

[deft badger]

a bit, then i went to the other one because i want to finish yato, need lmd xD

[fierce hawk]

Lmd is pretty cheap rn, there's on pack at the shop that cost 10usd? Not sure but it's 700K and 16 ingots

[deft badger]

not going to take that pack since i have to buy 2 of the 30usd packs xD

going to skip on that one but i saw it

[fierce hawk]

Whale

[deft badger]

still didn't get the monthly and hunters, pulls are important lmd isn't 🥲

what i got so far

[fierce hawk]

The drop rate on cf-8 is bad tbh, tho it's good for s trust farm

[deft badger]

i was spamming cf-8 what should i do instead?

[polar crane]

there's no bad drop rate

just continue farm cf8

[fierce hawk]

Cf-8 is the best

[fierce hawk]

I guess my luck just sucks

I keep on getting low tier mats

Rip

[polar crane]

technically 7 is faster

[eternal idol]

I think you are also just built different

[tall raptor]

What’s the best approach for 9-19?

[tropic valve]

oyana, the winner of Mizuki Cup, also a Schwarz main

[tropic valve]

use pillars to knock down mandragora and don't let her kill your ops with them in phase 2

[sonic willow]

Lanehold both sides, prep falling stones, kill P1, drop stones on p2

[cyan gorge]

Burst or stall Mandra phase 1, kill phase 2 with THRM-EX and rocks whenever she flies

[tall raptor]

My main team

[cyan gorge]

overkill much

[sonic willow]

Just surtr

[steep tartan]

i hate those birds and the spiney porcupine thingies in this event aaa

[storm current]

fyi

[tall raptor]

She can’t kill phase1

[storm current]

thorns solo left side

[tropic valve]

should be more than enough for Mandra

[storm current]

right is enough with just mountain GG

[polar crane]

you have to bait her bind thing

[storm current]

bring bait like gravel

[polar crane]

it slow surtr aspd

[sonic willow]

You can kill P1 slowly

[storm current]

actually

optionally

you can stall her with just NG and saria

[cyan gorge]

NTRK s3 with mod 1 can one cycle phase 1

[deft badger]

bro with the kill it xD

[tall raptor]

I use mountain, better

[tidal sedge]

Omertosa and some defenders that cannot do damage but able to stall enemies is all you need for most parts of the event stage

true or false?

[cyan gorge]

there are hoverboards

[sonic willow]

Mountain can't kill fliers left

[cyan gorge]

Mountain can't kill those

[deft badger]

the boss isn't the problem on that stage, its the boss +a shit load of ads

[tidal sedge]

Hmmm? You can bring the berry duo when facing him or NG or basically any medics...

[deft badger]

put thorns left side

[tidal sedge]

yeah

and Omertosa

[sonic willow]

How about use omertosa with yato to make things a lot easier

[tidal sedge]

both

yeah

both

[cyan gorge]

Speaking of Yato, would anyone happen to know the amount of damage increase Yato gets from S3 sl7 to m3?

[tidal sedge]

I dunno both S3M3 and perhaps S2M3 is a yus

[eager gate]

Like per hit or potential max to a single target

[deft badger]

me pepega did it like this..

[cyan gorge]

Single/multi target

I have s2m3 cooking, not sure on s3

[eager gate]

Now that I started thinking do we even have enemies with different sizes other than normal and the BIG ones

So she gets 40% per hit that's +200% of atk to a single 1tile enemy

It can probably get weird since you can push enemies and make them eat more hits than that

Maybe some real ass good timing can make you proc 6 hits to a single enemy that moves on its own just enough to eat a hit more

[cyan gorge]

Sounds like far more work than it's worth

[fathom gust]

screwed or no?

2nd day

[eager gate]

Well keep playing and you'll see

[main halo]

I think AH would rock this event

Consiering they are real hunters in lore

[fathom gust]

how i'm I suppose to play with like no operator

[neat skiff]

By doing the mechanic and letting them rest.

Fatigue is this events sanity.

[fathom gust]

specifically what do you do didn't understand that

[eternal idol]

AMAZINT TAKE

I LIKE IT

AH ONLY CLEAR NOW

[deft badger]

i am literally confused when it comes to that thing

[fathom gust]

is there like a meta guide for reclamation algorithm

[neat skiff]

There isn't even guides for reclamation algorithm.

[fathom gust]

I'm pretty sure cn players have guide lines

I doubt they won't have a starter they meta slave with

[neat skiff]

If they do there hasn't even been a whisper of a translation or repost.

[eager gate]

There's a whole lot of in-lore hunters of kinds
Lunacub, Firewatch, Vermeil, Meteor, Red, whoever else...

[fathom gust]

I don't need translation, do you know the name of reclamation algorithm in chinese

[neat skiff]

Of course not.

[tall raptor]

I feel like my squad just kills everything in sight

[main halo]

This event seems pretty complex

[fathom gust]

so any strategy for pretty much no operator to use?

[tall raptor]

What stage?

[main halo]

Not stages

[fathom gust]

reclamation shouldn't be a 1 month event its quite complex

[tall raptor]

Oh the shop?

[main halo]

Something like that

[tall raptor]

It’s just gacha, the actual mats don’t matter and are mainly just for missions and that’s it

[neat skiff]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3qskrINUbM Ok, this vid has an explanation of the event. You use drink to replenish operators stamina and they can drink once per day.

[fathom gust]

too little meta guideline

[neat skiff]

Literally all of your ops are fatigued and cannot do anything.

That tells you how to make them not that way.

[fathom gust]

I'm actually running out of food

[soft crystal]

I think frds are like amazing for reclamation, even phantom

[fathom gust]

and can't give them stamina

[neat skiff]

There are a grand total of 7 (seven) videos on the subject.

All of which are 7 months old while people focus on monster hunter.

Kukkikaze said he will make an indepth explination of the game mode in a couple days which is about as good as we have right now.

[soft crystal]

It feels like IS but with resource management

[eternal idol]

I don’t think there’s any rewards past the ones you get from points

So anything else is extra

I’m gonna max out to 6000 points and snag the medals

Then deleting all memory of this event

[eager gate]

not to mention that the mode's tutorial explains how to everything

[neat skiff]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMvR7icAXCk

[sonic willow]

Should be easy then

[eternal idol]

Ngl I think the tutorial was dogshit

Only by actualy playing it with trial and error did I actualy figure out wtf was happening

[eager gate]

it's annoyingly long and forced. I got pissed off the moment I realized I can't enter the stage later without force closing the gmae

but it gives you the gist of mechanics

[eternal idol]

Yea it feels like the tutorial gives you the very base line to understand what happened when you inevitably get screwed on ur first run

It teaches you why you got fucked over instead of how to avoid being fucked over

[eager gate]

that's part of being a game I'd think
ofc you fail at first while trying to understand

[cyan gorge]

Anyone know any low op trust farms for CF8 that don't use Ling? My current auto works but I feel it could be optimized

[eternal idol]

Do you have SA and Eyja

QIUBAI works too

[cyan gorge]

SA, Eyja unraised

[eager gate]

may I ask why specifically cf8? Is it the fastest stage?

[eternal idol]

I think you might be able to get away with doing one with qiubai and sa

[cyan gorge]

Idk which is fastest, I went with the easiest to do

[eager gate]

got it, fair

[neat skiff]

With max level meta ops you can do CF-8 in 90 seconds.

CF-7 takes longer and CF-9 doesn't drop anything.

[eager gate]

Isn't 7 around 90 too?

[cyan gorge]

I don't have max level ops besides 3
Just Pozy, Penance, Yato2

everyone else is e2 60

[eager gate]

that shouldn't matter to be honest, it's not cc malding afterall

[cyan gorge]

I’m currently rolling with this, some of those deployed ops I’m farming for

[plucky flint]

U don't use the bomb there?

[cyan gorge]

I forgot there was a bomb

[plucky flint]

Unga bunga strat

[cyan gorge]

Reedic and Ethan kill most of everything anyways, didn't see the need

My only gripe with this clear is that Pass s3 doesn't fully kill the turtles from top left

probably cause he's mod 2

nanoflake issuue

[foggy grove]

5* rate is a lie
where is my noir

[turbid badge]

U need

how does 5* guranteed even wirk

i forgot i got him tho

[quick pecan]

i got three yato and two noir

💀

[neat skiff]

There is no such thing as a 5 star guarantee.

Actually there is. The very first beginner banner.

[turbid badge]

it is tho

for collab no?

[neat skiff]

But you could potentially have started playing day 1 and not gotten a single on banner 5 star ever.

No.

[turbid badge]

or this one doesnt have

[neat skiff]

Rainbow 6 sort of had a guarantee. But this one does not.

[turbid badge]

ouch

Gl

[foggy grove]

[neat skiff]

How the rainbow 6 worked. Off banners did nothing. If you pulled Frost then the next 5 star is 100% Blitz. If you pulled Blitz then your next is Frost. Only worked one time.

[turbid badge]

Yea i remember

[foggy grove]

r6 works that way because they have 2 5* i guess

[neat skiff]

Yup.

[turbid badge]

i thought this banner would bave like

[quick pecan]

i started playing after r6

[turbid badge]

If u pulled offbanner u get noir next

[quick pecan]

no blitz 💔

[neat skiff]

Reading is hard.

[deft badger]

47min video, ok will watch that tomorrow xD
doing some bs here right now don't even know what i am doing

[turbid badge]

u have pretty good ops

[eager gate]

@cyan gorge dunno

I literally tried twice
can reduce it to just Specter Yato I'm p sure

gotta use brain tho

don't wanna

hey I wonder if

[cyan gorge]

I don't have Spalter

[main halo]

AH's just too strong

And it suits the event aesthetic very well too

[eager gate]

yo the greenie lets you respawn Specter with 25sp even out of doll form

gotta be a fancy use for it somewhere in event

[last blade]

Give me some tips what should do first and next. And what type of operator that good for RA. (I dont have dorothy but have robin E0) and is operator that have wide range really good in this event?

[remote ice]

Frd ops are good I hear

[last blade]

What is frd?

[remote ice]

Fast redeploy

[last blade]

Ok

I don't have texalter, i heard is good for farm material

[remote ice]

Do you have Yatalter

[last blade]

Yeah

E0

[remote ice]

Shes pretty good here

Aside from that just brings your strongest ops

Deadeyes are useful for information too

[scarlet ledge]

https://youtu.be/nK6U4mtVU20?si=npvrFeIZtnafCOGh

for everyone

😱

[broken moon]

Noice

So u just enter and exit?

[tidal sedge]

there are 3 ways to kill all monsters in CF-8

1. Kafka then bomb spam
2. Bomb spam
3. Texalter S3 and one bomb

[eager gate]

ye reduced to Specter Yato duo, slightly cringe cuz it might legit need max Specter because some mobs die dangerously close to walking away

fun map

wonder if I can specter solo through respawn shenanigans, will try after daily resets

[boreal magnet]

They really make us not ignorant about the importance of the tools

It's impressive, I like this event

[eager gate]

watch 99% of players still "how do I mlynar it to death"

or use the repos tool to force stop mlynar from s3 and start charging a new one

[sly drift]

Thanks for this.
Just tried it recently. Went for 20 minutes tutorial and I just don't want to play it anymore

[plucky flint]

That Tutorial almost made me fell asleep ngl

[boreal magnet]

Fr, the tutorial is the biggest downside

I dropped the event soon as the tutorial finished

[latent anvil]

What tutorial

All I know was the torture sequence

[tidal sedge]

Holy fu-

Rathalos

too damn hard somehow

[sly drift]

For real? I won my run by brute forcing it using my trust squad

[latent anvil]

Stun bomb and instant redeploy

Surtr him 20 times

[verbal sparrow]

yeah, it's nothing compared to the nukers we have nowadays

[sly drift]

Yea. The tools makes it significantly easier

The tools is too overpowered*

[verbal sparrow]

qiubai squad + mlynar. dead before it wakes up

[eager gate]

Btw what's the second half of the map for

[verbal sparrow]

Den mode if you let it live too long

[eager gate]

Curious

[verbal sparrow]

probably for those 3* / 4* clearers

[surreal star]

marry me

[eager gate]

https://youtu.be/SnM7FFGH81Y?si=E3VMk6Bg_Aq4M5o1

Yeah 4* does just fine

[main halo]

That was fun

[broken moon]

Any video abt this stage

Ffs another boss rush in minecraft mode

[boreal magnet]

How to stop the boar for charging?

Is this trap?

[remote ice]

That makes sense actually My dumb self just spammed defenders

[fringe jackal]

I've found the maps of RA on https://prts.wiki/w/沙中之火

[foggy grove]

ye the top one is usually enough

[broken moon]

VERY GOOD

[last mist]

Anyone did this too? Spamming yato and dropping the dragon when it rises? (Dont mind the leak i was focused on the dragon i didnt even know what the fuck leaked)

[timber hinge]

Will angelina s3 work with qiubai? I dont have suzuran btw

[long epoch]

Yes.

[lethal dragon]

Your suzu

[foggy grove]

[remote ice]

Probably a sheep during the stun

[tropic valve]

yeah the zipline is really OP

[boreal magnet]

Fast-redeploy specialist showcases

[fringe jackal]

how is reflect damage in RA countered?

[rose patrol]

These enemies are BS

Reflects 200 arts damage per hit

Mlynar dies from it

With ptilopsis skill on

[eager gate]

Good

[wary wing]

lmao

[neat skiff]

Only 200 per hit?

[rose patrol]

The map info is so bad

You can't even tell which range tiles that can be deployed

Unless you repeat this stage multiple times and memorized it

[vernal lion]

because the map is big, they can't just make a view for everything in the map

the little details will hurt your eyes bruh

so they make it to look simple

if you have played open world game, you will know the map is kinda same like that

[fringe jackal]

how did you get that? WTFF

[wary wing]

rng dispatch

but it seems it only lasts 1 run

[fringe jackal]

aww D:

[lapis hornet]

are the maps/enemies random or are they just bigger than usual with fow?

I have no idea what's happening in this mode

[austere inlet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8XJtq5Jxd4

[fringe jackal]

resource + enemy layouts are fixed, except during raids
https://prts.wiki/w/沙中之火 has a bunch of maps showing resource layouts

well for the ones that people filled out

[lapis hornet]

ahhh ty

[tidal sedge]

the training tool in MH lol

[wary wing]

lmao

3-7
mod mission
low end

[storm current]

theres literally no restriction

so uh

[tidal sedge]

question: is the great wall strategy that we use in TN-3 can be used to slap the Steam Knight?

the one in 11-20

[weak gazelle]

man....what the hell is this RA thing
no idea at all how it works

[tidal sedge]

RA?

The AK Open World?

[weak gazelle]

yeah
too many words to read
and have to memorize all the map since map info are shit as fuck

[waxen swan]

They definitely fuck the UI on RA

No wonder it's limited time

[weak gazelle]

guess will just take the rewards and dip
this is stupid

[waxen swan]

Probably won't comeback like is too

[weak gazelle]

just dont comeback again

[waxen swan]

I dont think anyone want this mode back

Too weird

[weak gazelle]

at least dont nerf map info

[waxen swan]

Yeah the map nerf is such a bad move

[harsh gale]

What is the best stage to grind this event?

Cf 6 7 or 8?

[weak gazelle]

its rng drop
so maybe the fastest one you can clear between 6-7-8

[harsh gale]

I see, I thought there was a chance of higher drops in a particular stage

Guess not then

Thank you @weak gazelle

[weak gazelle]

no problem

[waxen swan]

God this map is trash

It literally convey nothing to us

What you bring range op too bad bucko there no range tile in this map

[weak gazelle]

hahahaha
first time i see it and decide to quit already

that one fucked up feature

[waxen swan]

It doesn't help they pick the most annoying enemy to use

And they just keep throwing it at us

I understand the point is so we don't get the material easily but it's not like we have a long ass time anyway

The stamina system also encourages us to use less ops

[weak gazelle]

yeah less ops is good but it limit us to 3 time only

tbh, i have no idea what their thinking when design this event

[waxen swan]

I remembered when CN got this event and after it end nobody was talking about it

I guess i know why now

[weak gazelle]

ahh i see
guess will do the same
pretend this event didnt exist in the first place

[waxen swan]

They try to do another IS but it wasn't received well so they just make IS4

[weak gazelle]

[waxen swan]

People remember the co op event

Not this though this one was weird

There UI for the base stuffed is also too simplified for the kind of information they trying to convey

Also the finished end screen is a clusters fuck of information that too simplifies

[weak gazelle]

idk about ending screen cause always pick run away early
UI... yeah with that many information the try to convey it look half assed effort

[waxen swan]

They treating it like keyword but they forgot to teach us what it mean

The UI problem is they made it too compressed they need to space it out and color it differently than white with a few different colors line and give us more ? To convey information since this is a new game mode and nobody except people that play it in CN first know what it mean

[latent monolith]

I think the main issue with the event is that the tutorial doesn't show enough, combined with the UI being confusing it's a bit bad

Honestly though with some more polish I'd like it more than IS

[waxen swan]

The tutorial even tell us to ignore some stuff first

But really tutorials also play by it self which make the information even harder to understand

This definitely can be more fun than IS but right now first impression is not good

Also good fucking luck doing this if your not old player with crack account

[weak gazelle]

make it permanent event and improve it bit by bit
maybe with that i can accept this RA thing

rn is.... a garbage event for me

[waxen swan]

It's really not that bad they just don't know how to convey information to us

They treat it like old player will understand everything on tutorials

Also the fucking map literally being ass

[weak gazelle]

mentioning that mean how new player will do this or player with small roster?

[waxen swan]

Both

[weak gazelle]

seem like a nightmare for them

[waxen swan]

Like they expected you to have a pretty big roaster doing this

[weak gazelle]

thanks for the chat anyway
i have to go
hope everyone can enjoy this RA event (even tho i didnt at all)

[waxen swan]

It's an easy fix too just have borrows ops system

[latent monolith]

Well tbf like IS you can grind it bit by bit and it lasts a montj

Borrows would still be ideal though

[neat skiff]

Borrows would nullify the fatigue system that is the events version of sanity.

It would be a meta of "build and borrow around this 1 borrow".

[fringe jackal]

gachas want people to roll for their own units

[tidal sedge]

should I run Myrtle-Bagpipe-Saileach

or remove Saileach?

for generating DP in boss stages

[sullen rover]

bring saileach and remove myrtle 2 flagbearers are unneccesary for most stages

[tidal sedge]

wait... Saileach over Myrtle? I thought Myrtle is the DP Queen?

[neat skiff]

It's a bit of a sliding scale.

[scarlet ledge]

[latent monolith]

Elysium and sail S1 are identical the only difference there is the dp cost

[fringe jackal]

the token I got in reclamation algorithm from a previous run is still here in my second run...

[tidal sedge]

wait... she wins in the first few minutes but loses so fast so overtime?

I thought she was the DP Queen

[neat skiff]

Elysium and Sail generate 18 DP every 34 seconds. Myrtle generates 14 DP every 30 seconds.

[scarlet ledge]

only myrtle advantage she can early cast

but thats it

[neat skiff]

Myrtles biggest thing is being 14 DP every 30 seconds with a 4 star price tag.

[scarlet ledge]

@neat skiff oh ye how RA for u?

[neat skiff]

Have not even touched it.

I have a month and will joyfully wait for people to figure stuff out.

Especially since Kukkikaze said he would make a video explaining it a bit later on.

[last mist]

Is RA hard?

[tidal sedge]

Great Booba Wall Strat of 12-20 Adverse

[tidal sedge]

quite challenging

and punishing for someone like me

(I mean, a Full slot + all 6 star users like me are punished here)

low ops are preferable

[tidal sedge]

okay

[ionic mortar]

Can I get some help with CF-6

[scarlet ledge]

try using flash grenade on flying enemy

[shut siren]

whos a good unit to borrow for this?

[scarlet ledge]

gnosis

lappy

[shut siren]

ill borrow lap then ty :p

[ionic mortar]

Ok

[glass monolith]

Im not sure if abyss has dragons but their hunters just murdered one

[ionic mortar]

Wait, which trap do I replace

[neat skiff]

Any really.

Just the flash grenade is used as a mechanic as well as a mission for that stage.

[boreal magnet]

Funny they mention the ultimate weapon to kill it after u manage to kill it. And seriously what is this guy Rhatalos Smoking!

[dry skiff]

Low ops as in low rarity or low ops as in few units?

[near folio]

Anyone found a benchmark for Noir Corne alter?

[neat skiff]

? Like a showcase?

[alpine pewter]

how do i find the black market in reclamation algorithm****

[latent monolith]

It's to the upper left somewhere iirc

Look around the map

[near folio]

Showcases only shows him murdering crocs or the UT boss but never shows his performace on holding elite lanes

So I dont know what his true potential is

Like how Hellagur's current benchmark is being able to take down big ugly alone

[neat skiff]

Yeah, haven't seen anything like that. Biggest thing is I've seen more of him than I have seen Akafuyu in the past 6 months. Utage is still the most used of the archetype, mostly thanks to being super useful in 4 star clears.

[near folio]

For utage it feels more like the mindset, she feels more used than the 5 star mushas cause people view her as helidrop dps unload more than a laneholder which are what the other mushas are based on

[winter nebula]

How am I supposed to get this?

[sullen rover]

place an operator next to the rocks

4 adjacent tiles

[vernal lion]

and retreat them everytime

then deploy again

and retreat again

bla bla bla

just build the device to collect tho

[tall sierra]

For monhun stages

Just farm any map right?

[storm current]

yes

its based on sanity spend

[lavish snow]

Units. RA is very punishing of having lots of ops and too few ops in a stage

[pallid veldt]

RA is so fun

it started off being ass but after you unlock the tree and build ur base its actually pretty chill

[rose patrol]

Rule of thumb is that if it's just getting resources, use less ops if it's a raid then bring more ops

[tidal sedge]

Low amount of Ops, not low rarity

[tidal sedge]

This explains my words

[boreal magnet]

I still can't collect woods!

[vernal lion]

very good

[jovial nest]

My smile is reaching ear to ear. I can finally aboos both Texter and Ya2

i call it my Myrtle Squad because my most favorite squad uses a lot of the best redeps in the game

[tall raptor]

Episode 10 is pain

[jovial nest]

you have to learn to juggle that artillery

[vernal lion]

you can setup and switch squad if you need for each different purpose

[tall raptor]

What’s the secret? This is my team

[jovial nest]

...bring your best high blockers

Mudrock is an easy choice to drop for magnetizing artillery

you can also go with Penance or Hoshi

or even Centurions but they will die faster

also no wonder you're struggling.

[tall raptor]

Oh I have her

[jovial nest]

Saria's your only 3 blocker and Saria ain't exactly what i would call the best way to tank artillery

do you have Kaltsit?

[tall raptor]

Her too