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scarlet ledge
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how ur base?

viral surge
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not perfect but not bad either

scarlet ledge
viral surge
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1 more factory to L3 iirc

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both trading posts l3

scarlet ledge
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i see

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anyway gl on 10-11 adverse

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its roadblock for some player

viral surge
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If I can't do it I'll just go do challenge modes instead or whatnot, but I wanted the Chip Catalysts because outside of LMD that's the second biggest chokepoint on investment for me right now

scarlet ledge
lone cloak
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Guys...

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Guess who finally beat 4-7 after a year???

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Me

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🤯

scarlet ledge
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wtfff

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@viral surge oh ye e1 max ur kroos perf cutter

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when u have lmd ofc

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and gt i guess for secondary sniper since she already raised

gleaming lodge
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A year ?

viral surge
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Yeah that's the block rn, I have a list of good units to invest into as and when I can

gleaming lodge
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Not to sound pessimistic but why did it take you a year to beat 4-7 ?

glass monolith
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Maybe he realized than 1-7 is all he need HellaKek

scarlet ledge
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real

lone cloak
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I just like

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Would play

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And then delete

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And then play

cursive wedge
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blud is lvl 120 at 4-7

gleaming lodge
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Oh
Understandable

lone cloak
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But like it technically has been a year

glass monolith
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I am about to get 3 years medal, while in reality i installed during like TW event, got fucked by TW DOGS BEING ARTS DAMAGE GOOD YEAR 1 GAME DESIGN, and then returned only in DH and only because CN got Kroos alter and i needed simp target to start HellaKek

sinful geyser
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if you havent done it yet, IS2 monthly squads are easy lmd/exp source

viral surge
gleaming lodge
glass monolith
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Which were like dogs of that event (they were lowest tier enemy of event as i recall)

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And back when i started i knew no fucking difference between arts and physical HellaKek

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So i just butthurted from e0 max/ e1 20-30 vanguards dying in 3-4 hits and left

gleaming lodge
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Bruh

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Fair enough lol

scarlet fulcrum
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dogs and lion analogy lmao, smt wrong with ur eyes

brazen mauve
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hey can anyone show what they did for 7-16 (normal)?

main halo
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Your squad?

brazen mauve
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oh yeah hold on lemme finish up this attempt first

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wait like who i have built?

main halo
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Yeah

brazen mauve
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mk 1 min

main halo
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Hey you have Mlynar

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You can use him to tank the mortars

brazen mauve
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TRUE

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theyre my main issue

main halo
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Just put Mlynar somewhere with a healer and it's settled

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Anything else?

frigid kite
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What was 7-16

brazen mauve
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ty

main halo
frigid kite
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Ah that

main halo
foggy grove
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ah the learn how to agrro and spread

tidal sedge
brazen mauve
tidal sedge
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it is matter because of the mortar guy

brazen mauve
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oh aight then

frigid kite
main halo
latent monolith
frigid kite
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Mlynar, someome next to mlynar, a healer and Thorns

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Thats all you need

brazen mauve
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forgot to bring thorns 💀

latent monolith
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I'd put the person behind mlynar somewhat back

brazen mauve
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ill try this time and if i fail ill bring thorns next

latent monolith
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To avoid mortar aoe

frigid kite
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True

brazen mauve
main halo
tidal sedge
latent monolith
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Ling can easily solo the stage like completely braindead
You put one big dragon near each of the blue boxes, activate skill once near the end HellaKek

brazen mauve
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tbh im only doing this bc i want the 5 recruitment permits from campaign so i might just 2 star it and leave it at that till i have better mfs 😭

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built my mfing hibiscus and melantha for this bc of dp issues and still cant clear it

main halo
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Should be like this

brazen mauve
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HEY WAIT I DID IT I 3 STARRED IT

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thx guys that mlynar idea was brilliant much appreciated :3

main halo
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Gotta put 6* into good use

frigid kite
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Aw im late

foggy grove
lethal dragon
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Bruh

gentle finch
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easiest cc

lethal dragon
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R18 enjoyer moment

sly drift
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Angelina mod shorten her s3 to 20s but only if there's enemy with on her range Bnuuy

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Mod Z Angelina when

turbid badge
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mod cyz

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xyz

lethal dragon
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How about Angelina alter instead

sly drift
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No fukin chance HellaKek

lethal dragon
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More chances than modZ

sly drift
neat skiff
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I do find it amusing that the devs are continuing the trend of "latest anni in CN is for an event mechanic not yet out in global".

sonic willow
autumn loom
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Isn’t anni annihilation

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In this context

neat skiff
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Annis 8, 10, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17 and now 20 have all followed the trend.

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Yeah, annihilation.

sonic willow
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oh LappDumb oops

neat skiff
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Positive note at least. Anni 20 looks quite painful.

glass monolith
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There is something more painful than DV annihilation? LappWut

neat skiff
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Potentially. Entirely depends on how people handle what the firelight casts.

latent monolith
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8 days left for dv anni to appear in en ig

neat skiff
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Yup. Should be fun.

tidal sedge
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Rhinel lab Annil?

neat skiff
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Dorothys vision.

tidal sedge
neat skiff
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Several 😄

latent monolith
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Yeah

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Lots

glass monolith
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DV event issue, it has like 5 enemy types and it keep spamming this fucking ball elite RedOmegaLul

worthy ermine
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can you stun mandagora?

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is it possible to just texas s3 her while she's flying to bring her down

latent monolith
worthy ermine
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damn

latent monolith
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You need to use a pillar

worthy ermine
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can i kill her without deactivating it

latent monolith
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Yeah

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But why would you make life harder when you can make it easier

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She has like 60% damage reduction too btw

glass monolith
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She has high damage reduction with shield. So you just need VERY many damage RedOmegaLul

latent monolith
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Which is disabled by dropping the pillar

worthy ermine
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will mlynar be enough

glass monolith
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Will probably run out but will do some numbers

latent monolith
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Solo P2? Probably not

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But he'll do fine with like one pillar

worthy ermine
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welp

glass monolith
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My Mandra speedrun is Kroos alter buff squad + Mlynar

latent monolith
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It's really not that hard

worthy ermine
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who do i take to solo right side

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i have thorns for left

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im thinking penance

glass monolith
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I used funny feature of map where you can redicrect right side to walk middle as well RedOmegaLul

worthy ermine
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also this is cm not normal

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i forgot chapter 9 had cm and not adverse like the others

latent monolith
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CM just increases mandragora damage this would still work

worthy ermine
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i did the funny

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the funny worked

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spawn killed phase 1 and borrowed chalter for phase 2

scarlet ledge
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gg

timid schooner
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ow tanks are bad

balmy halo
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try slowing the chompers and killing them with a sniper without them eating anything, let penance eat the artillery

did u do that

foggy grove
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or you can feed frd to thr chomper

balmy halo
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feeding chompers increases their def by q a bit. seeing they have pozy this shouldnt be a problem, maybe they have problems with artillery? borrow nightingale

sonic willow
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how lose with that squad

glass monolith
sly drift
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Bruh..

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Is Eben actually bad.

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He has like 1.4k atk with slow aspd but normal caster has only 700 atk with average aspd. Literally half of Eben atk

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So he's actually not that bad in term of base stats

rapid junco
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he's gud if the stage is match his plays, for a stage a lot of trash mob , the stack will always be waste

latent monolith
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His main issue is that the good dpses aren't restricted to needing to one shot/chunk hard a boss or elite to be effective

sly drift
latent monolith
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He really wants stacks

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It's huge especially on skill

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Don't use eben against trash mobs

rapid junco
latent monolith
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Although his S3 does help by letting him ignore trash

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Stored charges at S3M3 do 90% more damage than the base attack per charge

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So he's losing like half his damage if you never let him stack on skill

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Which is pretty big

rapid junco
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hes gud too for boss camping with buffs tho

latent monolith
sly drift
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What about 2nd mod

latent monolith
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It's trash for his best use, which is elite nuking

sly drift
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15s with Mostima around

latent monolith
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Either way he loses a lot of damage

sly drift
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So it must be elite eh.

rapid junco
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well hes designed to be that, even in reality eyja and gg is best option

latent monolith
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Nah eben elite nuke does go hard

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It's just not always as simple as the other options

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And the other options work well and do other stuff

weak gazelle
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yeah
make eben work to his full potential is complicated

foggy grove
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but when it works,it looks so satisfying

weak gazelle
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yeah that the reward raising and using him correctly

rapid junco
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yes, that what this game unique, is the matter of how you use the op skill rather then seek for always meta playing style

sly drift
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About 2nd mod. He got 30+ aspd when there are stored attack.

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Wtf does this even mean. He doesnt even need aspd when he already got the attack stacked

rapid junco
rapid junco
weak gazelle
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i have no idea about eben 2nd mod work
but if aspd affect his charge, that would be very good for him

sly drift
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Nah. It's simply useless HellaKek
He blasted the stored attack instantly and then the buff gone.

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If the translation is correct. What he does is basically speed up the animation of stored attack and that's it.

rapid junco
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the stat buff is high tho

latent monolith
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The way mystic casters work is that whenever they attack if there are no enemies they store a charge instead

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Buffing aspd does increase how fast they store charges

weak gazelle
sly drift
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But why RedOmegaLul

sly drift
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Idk man. I will just let eben stay on bench

latent monolith
rapid junco
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if eben havs some cc like slow or debuff, he will be more gud

latent monolith
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Just use the first one

weak gazelle
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mystic caster are supposed to be an assasin in ranged tile
they exist solely to kill high threat enemies, but in reality its not that simple
mostly too complicated to the point its uselessGavialPensive

rapid junco
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eben is cool, but traped in mystic caster general problemSkadiDaijoubu

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yet the other has cc like root and hard slow, eben just pulling ppl

weak gazelle
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well HG hate caster so.... yeahChenShrug

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top 3 arts dmg in the game
none of them are casterGavialPensive

rapid junco
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but they do love godsenjer

sly drift
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And then there's worst op in the game. All of them were caster that keep replacing one after another

weak gazelle
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speaking of that i hope Santalla would be as i expected to be
not a letdown

rapid junco
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already hint she's gud with atk sped, the normal sped is too random atk tick, but will gud with cold team

latent monolith
rapid junco
glass monolith
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arts russian roulette

latent monolith
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Not top dps ChenShrug

glass monolith
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She is top DPS. when talent 1 feels like it

scarlet fulcrum
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Arts just, either they survive with res ignore or they support team

rapid junco
glass monolith
foggy grove
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it's dead
most of unit i want to build want oriron

glass monolith
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Only reason I still have rock is because I am Oriron and RMA gated from spending said rock

rapid junco
foggy grove
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i did rock farming since i don't know what to farm

scarlet ledge
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my en ded on manganese

kindred dragon
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Looking for advice on 5-3 CM

glass monolith
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It is funny drones but no snipers/casters?

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Thorns

gleaming lodge
gleaming lodge
kindred dragon
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Anyone not shown I either don't have or haven't invested in

gleaming lodge
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Are your operators skill lvl 1 ?

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I don't want to be rude mate but you can 3 ops 5-3 CM with that

kindred dragon
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Most should have skill 7
Some really meta ones have Masteries.
I know I can 3 op it, but the 3 ops I see need max pots on operators I don't have max pot

gleaming lodge
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No you don't need max pots

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What are you currently trying to do ?

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Hellagur opens
Surtr opens
Exu opens
Texalter opens
Heck you literally have NG to ignore the casters

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What is the problem you are facing ?

turbid badge
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lol just Helidrop on the casters

kindred dragon
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I can clear the casters in front of the blue boxes with characters like you list, then the other caster on that side of the map kills the character before I can deploy a healer or something to kill the other caster

gleaming lodge
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How many vanguards do you use ?

kindred dragon
rapid junco
gleaming lodge
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Pretty sure Ling can solo the map once you clear 3 red casters

kindred dragon
gleaming lodge
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Also
I don't believe you
Mountain solos a lane
Pallas Blaze for the other
Win

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The stage is trivial once you kill 2 casters

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And you have like, 36 DP to do so ?

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Vulcan S2 can open this map ...

turbid badge
gleaming lodge
turbid badge
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th e casters cant reach bagpipe btw

kindred dragon
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Look, I'm here because I can't understand why I can't do it.
Clearly you are also astounded so I'm not alone

gleaming lodge
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Yes, we are certainly confused

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Just open Surtr, kill 2 casters with her as shown above
Deploy Myrtle in the safe corner

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And then just spam 6* guards near the red boxes

turbid badge
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its just ur rosters stacked lul, suprised u havent dine 5-3 cm yea

rapid junco
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you can kill caster with phantom s2

gleaming lodge
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Can you send a screenshot of your failed attempts @kindred dragon ?

kindred dragon
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I can try, but its hard to catch it after a leak before i lose since its only got one seal

rapid junco
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bring bagpie + vanguard in the midle for dp problem

gleaming lodge
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Just send a screenshot of your game like 30s after the beginning

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Like, your first 3 deploys

kindred dragon
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Think I got it with Mountain

scarlet ledge
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such a roadblock for early playrr

rapid junco
scarlet ledge
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i use red + gravel

rapid junco
rapid junco
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so sad

scarlet ledge
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wellcthis time its just

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tex2

sonic willow
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sir, you have mtn bagpipe 💀 it's really hard to actually leak

scarlet ledge
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omg simple

rapid junco
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yes if any monten back thenSkadiDaijoubu

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now so much strat can do even just 4 star

kindred dragon
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Did it

scarlet ledge
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gg

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have fun on next roadblock

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when u reach it

rapid junco
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i thing it will be patriot

kindred dragon
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Most likely, although I have W for the mines

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Most of the early bosses are melting under Surtr, Chalter and/or Mlynar

rapid junco
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yes, they was build for that

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use them alot and you will beat every map i swear

gleaming lodge
gleaming lodge
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I don't want to shame them but huh....

scarlet ledge
gleaming lodge
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Moment

scarlet ledge
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wtf thats so stacked

tidal sedge
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We've any website that gives the DPS numbers?

latent anvil
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Viktorlab

frigid kite
neat skiff
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Huh, the only silencable enemy next event only deals a bunch of damage to low def ops. But they're also pretty squishy by modern standards.

frigid kite
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I know a way to fix that

neat skiff
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"Every 4th attack is 5 slashes in a row" or every 10 seconds.
Yellow = 17000 hp, 650 atk, 500 def
Red = 22000 hp, 750 atk, 600 def
Mini boss = 27000 hp, 800 atk, 700 def
All have 40 res.

frigid kite
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No more a problem

neat skiff
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Yeah, whole bunch of options to deal with them.

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But it's amusing either way that everything is back to silence immune except for trash mobs that most people will kill before they become blocked.

frigid kite
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Is next event hard btw?

neat skiff
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If anything it's a heal check event.

frigid kite
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Ah well

neat skiff
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Fair amount of burning elemental damage.

glass monolith
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I have Surtr hospital, without Surtr HellaKek

kindred dragon
kindred dragon
gleaming lodge
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But well, we all have skill issue moments

kindred dragon
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Its 100% a skill issue, I admit that

gleaming lodge
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Do you have any other early stages unfinished like that ?

kindred dragon
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Well I've only got to 6-4 CM so far
And 6-16 on normal (and also 9-17, since chapter 9 is not locked behind chapter 8)
But I most likely can get past all of these if I actually try

gleaming lodge
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Well, I haven't finished ch9 because FiaDed

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But you can roll over all ch7 and 8

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Should be very easy (first try on everything honestly)

kindred dragon
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just gotta punch past 6-16 (FrostNova I think)

gleaming lodge
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Yes

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Just Exu S3

scarlet ledge
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squid

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new anni cn is so laggy

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glad anni tix exist

cosmic thicket
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what's the new anni theme

scarlet ledge
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reedalt

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for en its DV

cosmic thicket
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oh

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i was expecting ch10 but i guess thankfully not

rough sigil
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Looking for an annihilation 3 squad that doesn't use thorns out of my current roster

frigid kite
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Sure

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All your E2+Penance, Steward, Perfumer and Kroos

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Oh and maybe Gravel if you need the bait

light flame
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one of the rare places where plat s2 range comes in handy if you want to use her rather than kroos

rough sigil
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Yeah I got this map earlier but it's using a throns so I am trying to think of a replacement for him

light flame
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specter should work

kindred dragon
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I think you can swap the thorns for a defender (and the defender in C8 for a pusher in B7 if low on defenders)

light flame
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do the club guys on bottom lane get blocked at D8 or C9, I don't remember

frigid kite
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Change Thorns for penance or pluma

light flame
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oh they have pluma, her T range would be pretty good there too

turbid badge
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u want someone in front if kroos

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i think ballista is there

frigid kite
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Yes

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Ballista hits all the map

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Wait actually

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Specter would be better

light flame
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honestly should just be able to silence drone for added healing there when drones come

frigid kite
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Pluma and Penance would get killed by ballista

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His penance E1

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(very sad)

rough sigil
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This is my current selection

turbid badge
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Wtf

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Texas 90

frigid kite
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You dont need silence

frigid kite
gleaming lodge
rough sigil
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What about Pinecone?

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She worth bringing or nah

autumn loom
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Her range is too short for anni 3

light flame
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she'd be good for midlane, but kinda need the AA for drones in this one iirc

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esp if no thorns

frigid kite
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Kroos can be changed for her on 350

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I mean

rough sigil
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I got two AA snipers

frigid kite
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Yeah

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Dealing 100 damage to heavies

rough sigil
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I think Pine would help for sure

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Was hoping to get Penance or Lee up for this but ehhh

frigid kite
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No no

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You can do it with that easily

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Texas can solo wave 350 probably

rough sigil
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Yeah fair

light flame
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honestly could leave vg top lane and just drop tex on everything RedOmegaLul

scarlet ledge
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for anni 3???

worthy ermine
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just borrow ifrit

quick pecan
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ifrit borrow makes anni 3 sleepge

gleaming lodge
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Do we have stats on the number/rarity of E2 operators when getting a recruitment ticket relevant to the class squad in IS#3 ?

verbal sparrow
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aruhodo so, ugh

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what's the copium for pozy

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typhon's range is so much more useful for nuking

opal kiln
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pozy doesn't take 700 years to get all the damage out

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and typewriter is very good

rose patrol
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im guessing typhon can finish the patriot squad faster than rosa (w/ module lvl3) with s2

frigid kite
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S2 seems like a good feeling skill

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afk, good damage, attacks at least 2, a silly cool animation

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oh and it's auto charge

junior jewel
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Damage isn't that good, but with the defence ignore she can deal much higher damage compared to other aft guys. And you forget the big range. But I doubt she can kill the squad faster then rosa S2, cuz rosa S2 hits 2 targets. (while typhon S2 dps vs 2 will be devided by 2)

quick pecan
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putting stun on an infinite duration skill feels very balans

turbid badge
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u mean that high stun to stunRedOmegaLul

frigid kite
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10 minutes stun

quick pecan
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i would say typhon is good but not a must pull

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another addition to afk knights always welcome ExuStare

turbid badge
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ehh

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smhh

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too long to charge deadge and click 2 buttons

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😴

frigid kite
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i welcome the temporal gift before Thorns' AoE module

verbal sparrow
quick pecan
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i mean

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if i have spare pulls

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i’ll pull her

verbal sparrow
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nuking bosses with this kind of range is just insane

quick pecan
timid acorn
# verbal sparrow

Viktorlab calculates the damage of both Pozëmka and typewriter separately so was there any reason to not include that if you're comparing them

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and either way those are 0 def calcs

quick pecan
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typewriter is truly an operator of all time

verbal sparrow
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you sure you want to go to 2000 DEF ?

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try it

timid acorn
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no need, pozy + typewriter win in Skill DPS until about 1800 def

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above that is typhon

rose patrol
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what about rosa compared to pozy and typhon

timid acorn
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I wont deny that

verbal sparrow
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anyway she's like Horn. Unique range that breaks, or trivializes certain maps. Only that Horn previously would be frustrated by, say, mobile artillery with high DEF. now typhon just murders that too

quick pecan
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i don’t think this is acknowledging

  1. typhon’s long windup on s3
  2. the potential for her to kill said enemy and have s3 stuck in a non ideal area
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it definitely isn’t just press and win there is some planning

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but like i said she’s good ExuStare

turbid badge
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how much dps does she lose when another enemy goes into rangeBlitzSmile

verbal sparrow
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long windup
it's actually the same as silver ash, if you consider a helidrop like SA to be long

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but yes, there is planning involved

quick pecan
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i’m talking about the animation / atk speed itself ExuStare not sp cost. her sp costs are alright.

quick pecan
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viktorlab says the interval is 5.5s

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that’s wild

latent monolith
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It could be awkward to fit into stuff like suzu S3

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Even though suzu S3 lasts so long

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Typhon skill still lasts longer

quick pecan
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actually

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the niche of hers

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that i love

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like really love

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is her lock-on

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staying for boss second phase

latent monolith
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Yeah it's quite cool

quick pecan
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they could have very easily spaghetti coded second phase of boss being a new enemy and it would’ve cooked that s3 lock on

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so i’m glad it stays

turbid badge
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yea same thats the really unique part of her kit and its really fun

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its like “global” range

gentle finch
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she kills stuff nicely

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win in my book

verbal sparrow
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who needs artillery when we already have crazy anime woman with a bow

rapid junco
turbid badge
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lore accurate dps

foggy grove
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RedOmegaLul so many Typhon hype

main halo
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What kind of sniper is she?

autumn loom
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Besieger

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Same as rosa

main halo
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Probably stronger than Rosa

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Who knows

autumn loom
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I think she’s stronger

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By a fairly large margin too

frigid kite
autumn loom
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I actually haven’t seen much talk about typhon yet

frigid kite
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maybe on Summer limmited event

turbid badge
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Bait banner real

foggy grove
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b-but she one cycle patriot
must be the new balans

verbal sparrow
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it is a new playstyle. needing to prevent trashmob from getting near target, and tracking bosses, and bypassing stuff like Degenbrecher's skill

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eventually the endgame balance is to have 12 mlynars on the team

sharp wadi
small spindle
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Hey guys, need general tips for adverse 10-11

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Heres the squad and somewhat raised ops

frigid kite
#

yeah i can see the why now

#

are you baiting with penance btw?

small spindle
#

Yeah, it works fine in non adverse but not so fine now

#

The change in enemy route also caught me off guard

#

Should i just use a healable defender for bottom lane?

frigid kite
#

Saria + Bagpipe being healed by her, Perfumer and Silence

#

Penance to bait the cannon, be careful with the range

#

Silverash Helping Penance, she can't solo it

#

and keep spamming Texalter for both lanes

#

Maybe you will need to use Texalter for top Caster

verbal sparrow
#

I just remember putting Kal'tsit somewhere for this map. We didn't have penance or sexas then.

frigid kite
#

or you can kill it with Bagpipe S3

#

oh almost forgot about ifrit lol

#

PD: Bagpipe will probably be killed by the last 2 bruisers

#

or before that any time lol

#

be careful with that

timid schooner
#

finally

#

alright 11-20 is waiting

signal lichen
#

lee is fine right

#

lee is 100% fine here

small spindle
frigid kite
#

bye bye lee

signal lichen
#

honestly i have 0 idea what i am actually supposed to do

frigid kite
#

well you can search up a "D15 Knight guide"

#

and upgrade 2 specific ops for him

#

Mr Nothing and Erato

signal lichen
#

ah so the answer is operators i don't have built

#

makes sense tho

frigid kite
#

idk either how it is but it's supposed to just stall him infinitely

signal lichen
#

cuz this squad is not doing it

#

that was straight unwinable for what i had

frigid kite
#

oh you can also

#

take 31 hp

#

and leak him

signal lichen
#

seems to be the main viable strat

latent monolith
#

The main reliable strat is mr nothing erato

#

erato needs E1 SL7 nothing needs E2 mod 2

sacred agate
#

Help JT8-3 is scary

meager merlin
#

Anyone here know what mostima module upgrades do?

frigid kite
#

Borrow Nightingale

#

@meager merlin

#

ey that module would help on IS3

sacred agate
frigid kite
#

Healer

meager merlin
#

That's actually pretty powerful

#

That's a 90% movement speed reduction with her S3 active?

frigid kite
#

idk the formula

timid acorn
meager merlin
#

Still extremely good

#

Plus the DP cost reduction

turbid badge
glass monolith
#

Nothing is as satisfying as 0.1 speed lancers HellaKek

sharp wadi
frigid kite
tidal sedge
#

Who's the welfare Op from Mansfield Break

glass monolith
#

Robin

tidal sedge
#

Ah so she's like Dorothy but she inflicts shift force for some reason

glass monolith
#

Because it is said in her skill 2, DUH? LappDumb

lethal dragon
#

Weird

#

My Robin can only bind

frigid kite
#

She Shifts

#

I remember someone using her for Shift medal on BI

lethal dragon
#

Yeah that was funny

tidal sedge
foggy grove
#

bind is s1

#

shift is s2

gleaming lodge
#

Thanks for the input mate

foggy grove
#

np
do you need more?

#

like the sky is blue

verbal sparrow
gleaming lodge
#

No the sky is grey RedDumb

latent monolith
gleaming lodge
#

I love clouds

#

Anyway

#

Imma ask again
Do we have stats on the number/rarity of E2 operators when getting a recruitment ticket relevant to the class squad in IS#3 ?

#

Maybe @cosmic dagger knows ? (Sorry mate, feels like I ping you every half second nowadays)

olive stream
#

Are there any melee ops that can 1v1, Tallulah? (Jt8-2) I can handle the right part of the map and out heal her ignites. But I can't seem to damage her enough to kill her before she gets to close to the blue boxes.

sonic willow
olive stream
#

Yeah I know, I'm using her currently but if I put her down then my healers can't help out heal the ignite on my defenders.

sonic willow
#

sorry, I don't see the connection between amiya and your healers

foggy grove
#

bait the ignite?

#

you brought frd right

glass monolith
foggy grove
#

or that

olive stream
#

I do have ops that can live but ill have to work on positioning..again.

glass monolith
#

Oh we talk JT8-2, not JT8-3, he doesn't know SwireKek

olive stream
#

I've been spoiled, I do know, but it's one thing to see and another to actually come up with a strategy that isn't garbage. A skill that I regret I don't have despite loving this game.

sharp wadi
pearl stone
foggy grove
#

surtr is cute

#

she hit for less 1k per hit on enraged talu

frigid kite
olive stream
#

Don't have Sutr, but if I borrow one from a friend would I still get Guard-miya?

frigid kite
#

You have a way to go, think about this, Challenge mode is like replaying the game again and harder

glass monolith
#

Back when i did JT8-3 for first time i SUFFERED missing 2 baits deploy by few frames and die because my set up was unstable if something goes BBQ
Year afterwards i just face tanked cooking simulator in H8-4 because i knew - Fuck baiting that shit LappDumb

olive stream
#

Dope.

pearl stone
#

are they doing the challenge mode?

tidal sedge
#

Don't think so

frigid kite
#

No, i guess, just my recommendation

olive stream
#

I am not, I'm only in it for the Lore,Stories, and characters.

pearl stone
glass monolith
#

BBQed operator deal less damage to Talubruh

foggy grove
sonic willow
glass monolith
#

Well excuse me, i gained silver ash only in golden age because i am bronze

foggy grove
#

i did say enraged RedOmegaLul

glass monolith
#

She gains anything from enrage except cooking book to increase BBQ spam?

foggy grove
#

big res

#

and more def but who cares about def part

glass monolith
#

Oh, res goes from 50 to 90 HellaKek

#

Good design

sonic willow
#

res design is so bad

glass monolith
#

i love this game for some random stuff just because

sonic willow
#

💀 actually disgusting

glass monolith
#

Talulah suddenly going 50 to 90 res.
That one IS EX map giving CM enemy attack speed
Chapter 11 boss not even gaining ATK up in phase 2 HellaHands

sonic willow
#

well not atk up, but 2x aspd

worthy ermine
olive stream
#

@worthy ermine I do have a Saria, do I just plop her down w/ S3 and Amiya uses her S3 as well?

worthy ermine
#

as long as you dont die its fine? idk i didnt stall her

olive stream
#

@worthy ermine what did you do? If you have a general strategy, I'd like to read about it. Maybe I'm going about it the wrong way.

worthy ermine
#

surtr and texas s2

olive stream
#

Oh, Surtr I don't have. But if the change presents itself I'll borrow a friend's.

worthy ermine
#

i dont remember if i used mlynar or not, he probably died because of his taunt

olive stream
#

Ok, so then based off of the Ops listed or mentioned I'm supposed to DPS her down, I just need to find the right ops and not DP lock myself.

sly drift
#

For real you can just kill talulah using Texas s2 on 4th deployment

pearl stone
#

she will die in 2 surtr deployments

olive stream
#

Understood, if I go that it's a sure win. So I'll do that now, still I'll want to come back after and do it without a support op.

sly drift
#

Or S3 Pozy. It kills on 1 cycle without typewriter Bnuuy

pearl stone
#

actually? gross

sly drift
#

Yea lmao. But probably not in JT3

worthy ermine
#

jt3 is stallable with amiya, thorns can hold 3 lanes at once

gleaming lodge
#

There is only two lanes in JT8-3 though

tawdry basin
#

hey i was told to bring my sorrows here

#

can anyone guide me through 9-14?

sly drift
#

What 9-14

tawdry basin
#

it has stone columns u gotta drop to guide the enemy a certain way

tidal sedge
#

Nah u don't need to do that

tawdry basin
#

this one

tidal sedge
#

Don't touch the pillars, get a defender in front of the blue box on right side and deploy Chalter to kill everything

sly drift
#

Isn't it easier to block the right path Bnuuy

tawdry basin
#

dont have chalter

sly drift
#

What's ur squad

tawdry basin
#

uh would it be easier to SS or could we hop into vc?

sly drift
#

Screenshot is enough

#

I want to see how's ur squad

tidal sedge
#

Send ss

tawdry basin
#

u want to see what i waas using or just my ops

sly drift
#

Ur main squad

tidal sedge
#

What you were using

tawdry basin
#

granted i havent played in awhile so some ops havent been touched

#

iirc this was the main squad i brought most places

#

i do have more ops than this tho

#

oh and idk why but i do bring e2 ptilopsis

sly drift
#

I would say too much defender

tawdry basin
#

different options for diff stages

sly drift
#

Get the path to be like this

#

I think this stage is pretty simple

tawdry basin
#

as for the units i have more units to use so if ya want to recommend certain ones or is the one i shown good enuff

sly drift
#

More attacker

#

Snipers

gleaming lodge
#

Nah you don't need that

sly drift
gleaming lodge
#

Just have proper pathing like shown above

tawdry basin
#

as for the units doesnt this one have big rock/flying rock ?

#

so i need a good mage right?

sly drift
#

Yea

tawdry basin
#

when you dont own too many mages kekw i also ifrit to the side

sly drift
#

Use whatever enough to burst down the flying rock

#

Maybe replace hoshi or and ntr

tawdry basin
#

i replace hoshi for golden

tidal sedge
foggy grove
#

Arts on garg is Sheew

tawdry basin
#

who would be a better choice would suzu work to slow them down? or angelina?

sly drift
#

Swarz has her tile. Just use her RedOmegaLul

#

Oh.. NTR works too. She can kill gargoyle without ever flying HellaKek

foggy grove
steep tartan
# tawdry basin

pozy can kill all the golems and just have an aoe guard or something on left side

sly drift
tidal sedge
#

Pozemka

tawdry basin
#

dont know who that is xd

sly drift
#

Pozyomka

tidal sedge
tawdry basin
#

i havent played since like last anni

#

since a little after nalter

#

give ir take a few months after

sly drift
tawdry basin
#

no? whats the fastest way to get rid of the columns ?

sly drift
#

Column? HellaHands

#

Pillar?

glass monolith
#

Activate CM mode HellaKek

tidal sedge
#

Fast redeploys

sly drift
#

Bagpipe, fast redeploy

tawdry basin
#

dont they need 2 range to hit the "pillar" ?

sly drift
#

You will break the middle pillar first using sniper and kill both flamethrower on their spawn asap

steep tartan
#

i used texas alter/myrtle to break the pillars

sly drift
#

Flamethrower explosive kill do break the pillar

#

What you need is to kill them to get the pillar down

tawdry basin
#

gotcha ok

#

yea got it done

#

ty for the strat to funnel i was too frustrated to realize the pillars went down due to the flamethrowers

small spindle
#

@frigid kite thank you, the strat works! I had to borrow kaltsit to take care of top side, and it was over right after i find the timing to burst down the bot lane mobs to reduce the swordsman's attack.

tawdry basin
#

so did i miss the next anniv (after nalter) or is the anni coming up ?

glass monolith
#

Next week for us Rat's Robots annihilation, CN got Eblana anni today

tawdry basin
#

oh so i came back at the perfect time?

#

to grind whatever i missed and save for the anni?

glass monolith
#

are you asking for annihilation or anniversary LappWut

tawdry basin
#

anniversary

#

sorry i always thought anhilation < was spelt like this

glass monolith
#

Because you totally skipped 3rd at January 2023 if you left on Nearl alter and 4th is 2024 for global, because time is relative

tawdry basin
#

and nalter was 2nd anniv right? damn oh well itll give me plenty of to save for next, or is there any meta defining units coming up ?

glass monolith
#

Time is relative said Einstein, people of 20th Century didn't understood he predicted Yostar schedule

sly drift
glass monolith
#

More you ask, harder is accelerates away, but that's different law HellaKek

glass monolith
elder flume
#

Didnt explode pillar

glass monolith
elder flume
#

I'll just test it later if jamming it in the pillar will work

tawdry basin
glass monolith
#

Wait fuck it, wasn't Anni event GOLDEN AGE WILL RETURN AGAIN? NotLikeIfrit

#

Shit i'm not gonna do this shit, next limited in Chinese New Year, then if we copy paste CN Monster Hunter collab with 3 trully lmited operators, then Mumu

foggy grove
tawdry basin
#

damn i missed 3 limited banners in that time

#

i found where i left, right sfter golden glow

#

so what is the banner name for the monhun collab

scarlet fulcrum
foggy grove
#

gamepress prolly have banner list

tawdry basin
scarlet fulcrum
#

Most likely yea

#

Unless they trolled again

glass monolith
#

you forgot to space after copying link so "yea" is no part of link HellaKek

foggy grove
glass monolith
#

Well event banners will come, at some time, in some order, welcome to Yostar publishing

tawdry basin
#

so which banner name would be the monhun collab

#

oh

#

sharpened by flame

#

i assume

scarlet fulcrum
#

Ye

tawdry basin
#

so those units r must pulls persay ? then after that others r if u like the waifu/husbando go for it?

glass monolith
#

Collab won't rerun in any way unless one company throw money at other

scarlet fulcrum
#

They are fomo units yea, most of player will pull

tawdry basin
#

nice so aside this banner in particular is anything worth of note?

#

becuz for waifu reasons qiubai i like the look of

glass monolith
#

We enter shitty time when almost every banner is pull worthy RedOmegaLul

scarlet fulcrum
#

Incoming banner worth to pull, reed alter one

timid schooner
#

that moment when click drone keep follow him + multi stuns

tawdry basin
#

ok ik 1 is alot more pointy, but i think they ran out of ideas here

#

can you tell me the difference between these 2 pictures?

scarlet fulcrum
#

Right one was old af npc

weak gazelle
#

oh ines

tawdry basin
#

they are the same picture

scarlet fulcrum
#

A lot difference, only gradient similiar

tawdry basin
#

thats the joke

#

different overall but same gradient , same color scheme

scarlet fulcrum
#

Other than hair

tawdry basin
#

but is the list on gamepress for likely banners coming to global they are all mostly pullworthy ?

scarlet fulcrum
#

Not all

tawdry basin
#

if u can swing it, otherwise ssave for monhun ?

scarlet fulcrum
#

Yeah MH most worthy

glass monolith
#

i want to skip as much as possible to guarantee Mumu, but at same time i want Reed alter, Lin and QB (Yes i plan to skip Ines just to trigger her simps) NotLikeIfrit

weak gazelle
#

ines banner
idk the 5* rate up
but for ines itself myself call her newest meta vg

glass monolith
#

Ines just comes and stabs Silverash gimmick for reveal

scarlet fulcrum
#

Ines banner has infamous cement as 5*

glass monolith
#

Hypergryph - Release cement
Also Hypergryph - NEVER release physical boss afterwards

weak gazelle
#

is that all you know about ines gimmick?
i see
i want cement, she pique my interest but again it just temporary impulse

#

still seeing harmonie & santalla as prio to get
well after insider obviously

glass monolith
#

I will have both Cant and Puzzle build, and CC11 already show me than Cant alone make DP3 risk flip and die, without Bagpipe

scarlet fulcrum
#

Harmonie also prio for me DrudgeThink interesting kit

#

I will stop pull when she comes, this is not jynx

weak gazelle
#

her s2 similar to schen s3
targetting tiles so yeah...

#

something fun to work with

glass monolith
#

2 infinite workers
Infinite Proviso because Fia having vacation
Infinite Vigil because his corpse is next to Kazemaru/Harmonie HellaKek

gleaming lodge
#

For big hits mudrock is better
For small but fast hits high DEF is better

glass monolith
#

No way, 30 DP, 1 block, must be good HellaKek

scarlet ledge
#

cement good

#

trust me

glass monolith
#

While Big AND "Fast" hits of chapter 11 boss got stalled by Beanstalk of Silvergun RedOmegaLul

gleaming lodge
#

imo Cement's niche is tanking rhine lab puncher mecha

#

But huh
That's niche (derogatory)

scarlet ledge
#

ngl i use cement to tank 1 damazti but ye thats it VERY OP

scarlet fulcrum
#

Pinch out defenderknights BlitzSmile

scarlet ledge
glass monolith
scarlet ledge
#

DV anni is near

gleaming lodge
glass monolith
#

i wonder if i can trip enough to block top mecha from waking up in PO0

scarlet fulcrum
#

Last one was experimental right? Is there number on it? Yeah its the one with broom, it would be funny if meele

glass monolith
#

i lack of any plan of how to stall this potato

weak gazelle
#

who is this RL mecha?
is that from dorothy event or something?

glass monolith
#

I'm 99% sure they refer to melee robot of Dorothy event

weak gazelle
#

it just i didnt know that
because i skip some event
mweener and dorothy event
and maybe more(?)

glass monolith
#

Newspaper zombie was PvZ collab mini event so it had no unique enemies

#

i think uWu

scarlet fulcrum
#

Yeah no number on it, same as CC beta

#

Doubt they will use number, atleast experimental written on it DrudgeThink

scarlet ledge
#

deactivated ones

#

is punchy

weak gazelle
#

puzzle and canta have similar base skill
those are stacked if i put them together?

glass monolith
#

Their skills are too based to say if they work HellaKek

#

Point and Angelina who never produced clue 7

scarlet fulcrum
#

Just use regular highest% then swap with alt HellaKek

#

i never use em so i cant tell, should be stackable ig DrudgeThink

weak gazelle
#

the cope i have for not having quercusMintCryCross

scarlet fulcrum
weak gazelle
#

every clue are easy to get except clue 5

scarlet fulcrum
#

not even indra?

weak gazelle
#

oh right
i forgot about indra
and she not built yetAmiyaDeskBang
the cost are too expensive for merely clue 5

scarlet fulcrum
#

Well even with breeze indra, aak and leizi together its still cope

glass monolith
#

But can there really be a price to understanding what the fuck is going on?

scarlet fulcrum
#

U better swap with friends

weak gazelle
#

as much as i like indra sadly she doesnt have a role in my team for any contentGavialPensive

glass monolith
#

I need to swap friends because those 42 potatos missing same clue i do RedOmegaLul

weak gazelle
#

no i cope with canta
usually clue 5 is the last when grind clues
maybe quercus will spook in the next banner along with harmonie

#

another cope

glass monolith
#

Can i have kafka spook, please?

scarlet fulcrum
weak gazelle
#

for what you want kafka?

#

sleep shenannigans strat?

glass monolith
#

Looks on Erato with 2 S2 Stainless devices
Perhaps

scarlet fulcrum
#

I even bought kafka pot with certs , shrimple as that

glass monolith
#

i have what i need to win. Now i need to go memes

#

Usual cycle of guideless AK player

scarlet fulcrum
#

Next must buy ashlock and kazemaru DrudgeThink imagine following help

weak gazelle
#

at least having fun
better than malding with no progress at all

glass monolith
#

Waiting for IW rerun so i can do funny +186% ATK + Sora + Camo Kokodayo

weak gazelle
scarlet fulcrum
#

Sadly yea, flipcoin cursed as always

latent monolith
#

I'm building my eben first
Can probably E2 him before FC drops

#

Actually I have 50k lmd I can't

glass monolith
#

It is 1 year since i haven't built Lee yet CeobeConfused

latent monolith
#

DuskGun you know what to do

#

3 more days until event go farm

glass monolith
#

You right, E2 Bagpipe SoraWow

foggy grove
#

e2 sesa

latent monolith
#

Do you guys think penance mlynar can do iron carrot RosThink

#

I can throw in horn ig

weak gazelle
#

which one is that again?

latent monolith
#

It's the one with crownslayer on the boss stage

#

The spiral one

scarlet fulcrum
latent monolith
#

I also have gnosis but idk if I can get everyone and their fodder

glass monolith
#

I hate it for extreme dog rush and lack of any draw points (wave 1 lasts like 34 kills or so, so you don't gain shit until your initial draw get over all that dog spam)

scarlet ledge
#

omg all pro player are here

scarlet fulcrum
#

hi leite

weak gazelle
#

i recall its sss map

latent monolith
#

I kinda didn't bother with SSS the whole time so I'm having to do it for first clear rewards HellaKek

weak gazelle
#

if clownslayer at the very least have 1 cc ops in the team

scarlet ledge
latent monolith
scarlet ledge
#

ngl i dont remember the name

#

i don't play sss

#

carrot mine?

latent monolith
#

I can also bring suzu but probably no stacks

#

Yeah

scarlet fulcrum
#

Dang suzu broken there

foggy grove
#

there is wraith and lancer?

latent monolith
#

I should probably M3 her sometime

weak gazelle
#

pick suzu instead i guess

sonic willow
#

you want to bring suzu and gnosis anyway, good supporters

foggy grove
#

just bring both

#

supporter good

latent monolith
#

Well technically I have her M3 it's just S2M1 S3M2

weak gazelle
#

oh right
supporter buff, just realize that

scarlet fulcrum
#

Either skill fine tbh, looking at ur core

#

U only need to carefull with poop draw timing and mob rush

latent monolith
#

Where do I set up penance and mlynar? Below the top middle red box?

scarlet ledge
#

i use leizi 5 aspd stack on carrot mines

weak gazelle
#

sadly i didnt play sss for 5+ months now so yeah i completely forgot what it look like
so cant give more advice 🙏

latent monolith
#

Same tbh I just came back after the nerf and played it a couple times

scarlet fulcrum
#

Ideally u setup on mid left

latent monolith
scarlet fulcrum
#

1 tile deployable there

latent monolith
#

Me playing SSS be like

scarlet fulcrum
#

Most meele core can dps boss along with mobs too

scarlet ledge
#

i just play sss

#

when new map arrived

#

then do secret medal and get boss info

#

then never touching it again

glass monolith
#

I do it because i could so i did, and i will do it again DIE

scarlet fulcrum
#

Also the old maps should be poof after time run out ig DrudgeThink

latent monolith
#

Gnosis just wants snipers right

foggy grove
#

just do it without stacks

#

mixed comps feels bad

#

but ye 3 sniper is fine

scarlet fulcrum
#

Might as well use suzu s3 BlitzSmile

foggy grove
#

but i do use susu s3

weak gazelle
#

shit, just remember my GT mod still stuck at lvl 2HellaHands

scarlet fulcrum
#

Me with 0 datablock rn

weak gazelle
#

guess i waiting for event shop
surely they have some mod mats right?

scarlet fulcrum
#

Yea

latent monolith
#

I have like 60 mod blocks or smth

#

It's not like I'm picky with mods either

scarlet fulcrum
#

Thats normal

glass monolith
#

I like shit ton of mod blocks on hands but it is just because i played this game since they were added so i pretty much has hand on every F2P possible module block

latent monolith
#

Kroos alter mod 2 astgenne mod 2 lee chen Ambriel ethan vigna cutter all mod 3 Jaye mod 1 ling mod 3

glass monolith
#

also didn't module 60% of shit i want

latent monolith
#

Probably a few more

#

Uh pozy mod 2

weak gazelle
#

idk, mod is kinda useless for me
they start showing value on harder content
for general content it like a waste

scarlet fulcrum
#

If u have shit ton of block left then u did the right thing DW, its not bad thing

#

Dont be like me

latent monolith
#

Lee mod 3 doesn't exactly sound like the right thing

#

Oh also like texas alter mod 2

foggy grove
#

most mod 3 is a scam

latent monolith
#

I think that's all of them

scarlet fulcrum
#

atleast its still notable ops

latent monolith
#

Ig part of it is that all my 4 star mod 3s cost nothing

scarlet fulcrum
#

4 nothing yea

weak gazelle
#

sexas mod 3 to squeze every +atk stat she can possibly get

latent monolith
#

Another one I just remembered exu mod 2 SkadiDaijoubu both my elysium and myrtle get buffs now

foggy grove
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90 that sexas too

gleaming lodge
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Friendly reminder that Exu buff isn't random if you deploy properly

latent monolith
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Liberator mods when hg I want to mod 3 uncle

latent monolith
gleaming lodge
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Don't complain about it buffing your flags then BlitzSmile

latent monolith
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I did do it for one anni where I retreated everyone who I didn't want the buff on to deploy exu

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But I usually just don't care

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It probably didn't make a difference, I did it because I was bored

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Although ig exu buff landing on mud/penance for the hp could be pretty nice

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Both of them like hp a lot

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10% more not a small amount

scarlet fulcrum
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Nice planning

latent monolith
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I don't see myself ever needing it outside like h10-3 anyways

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Although I'm probably not bringing exu if I ever do H10-3

glass monolith
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I can't compain about Exu buff because i use Kroos alter which is Exu but Kokodayo KroosDaYo

latent monolith
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I have both M3 mod 2

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And also P1

worthy ermine
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where do i place my units in this map, anything i should look out for?

glass monolith
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Archers from top 2 boxes,
Hoverboard dudes from bottom 2 boxes - Stun/Freeze will land them and they jump into 2 holes
Several fireball mages in middle, elemental medic will brain dead throught them
Chapter 9 boss, but she has like 2 minute of wait in cross between those 3 pillars so you will slap her dead
Also those bros of taunt boy from top and invisible boy from bottom which can really fuck you over if they combine

worthy ermine
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hm

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wait there are the fireball casters?

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oh no

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i dont like these

glass monolith
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There is like 6 of them totally

scarlet fulcrum
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Any side works with those ops, mandra easily dies of cringe with mlynar there. She drolled like forever before move. Only treat here probably duo combi. U dont need pillar with those ops but it will help

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U can outheal with normal medics

worthy ermine
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k

glass monolith
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My stupid set up of "it just works"

worthy ermine
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as for the invisible guys ill just kill them before they kill me

glass monolith
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And yes it desynced on Kroos alter stun RNG

scarlet fulcrum
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Ur normal medic more than normal tbh

tidal sedge
scarlet fulcrum
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Skateboard=aciddrop

glass monolith
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Ignore aciddrop on right, i was spawn killing fireball mages because i didn't knew AMBRIEL/GG S3 KILLS THEM

worthy ermine
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do i face thorns up/down or right

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ima just ignore the enemies from the sides tbh

glass monolith
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All "side" enemies but hoverboys taking holes will come to ladders

worthy ermine
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the hoverboards are a joke

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just drop texas

glass monolith
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I recall seeing alot of corner Thorns on right side but i don't recall exact set up

worthy ermine
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ill be fine surely

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if things go south i got mlynar

glass monolith
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And i recall few people suffering from taunt + invis bro combining because following in blindly HellaKek

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I think you drop pillar on Thorns side down to avoid enemy from clapping him

tidal sedge
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Thorns can go bottom right corner, or two tiles below Ambroel

scarlet fulcrum
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U can just funnel them to mid or bot. Anything works with balze there

turbid badge
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totter showcase

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anni

glass monolith
scarlet fulcrum
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Mb i meant mlynar

tidal sedge
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Mlynar destroys the boss and the invisible mfs on the map WarSmug

glass monolith
latent monolith
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My perspective on mandragora has been changed by seeing several clears of her committing suicide by pillar

frigid kite
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Classic Surtr + Pillar behavior

latent monolith
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6 defender h9-6 RedOmegaLul

glass monolith
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My opinion about cat changed after this HellaKek

glass monolith
scarlet fulcrum
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Also mandra hp nerfed in the anni version

latent monolith
# glass monolith FUCKING HOW? <:NotLikeIfrit:794552011298570240>

6 Defender H9-6

Penance is the first 'anti-air' defender with considerable laneholding potential. This makes her extremely suitable for maps like H9-6 with a high diversity of enemies, and her ability to 'heal' herself enables you to pull off some really cool stalls.

This was a really impressive run that I worked on together with a number of C...

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frigid kite
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Who kills the flying guys

latent monolith
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It's truly one of the nicheknights clears of all times

scarlet fulcrum
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Pillar

glass monolith
latent monolith
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Penance horn kill golems

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Penance on skill 4k atk

frigid kite
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Maybe penance?

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Aaah cool