strategy

[misty finch]

That Buggy just leaks

[foggy grove]

why can't

just kill it

[misty finch]

I have no anti-invis

[foggy grove]

scene is free

[misty finch]

Where scene

[foggy grove]

cc shop

[lethal dragon]

Elysium ?

SA?

Gavial can block

[misty finch]

;-;

[foggy grove]

[lethal dragon]

This is why you'd skip mats

Smh

[foggy grove]

you can borrow invis revealer then if you have enough dps

Sa is a good borrow since he can just nuke as well

[heady hedge]

sa s1

trust

[sharp wadi]

Is challenge or maxing?

[craggy hare]

Not solo, but Cantabile + any healer can do that lane all the way to R12

[unreal oar]

cant clear JT8-3. my fast redeploys just dont redeploy fast enough. any other way to deal with the ignite?

[vague rock]

Prolly challange seeing he only has 3 active

[cosmic thicket]

Which fast redeploys r u bringing?

[sonic willow]

gravel + yato + some other frd

[unreal oar]

&

[craggy hare]

Lunacub???

[foggy grove]

vigil wolf trust

[cosmic thicket]

Should be fine then

[glass monolith]

I love your approach

[cosmic thicket]

Just deploy them as soon as possible and retreat instantly when they get ignited

[lapis hornet]

the window isn't super big if you don't have pots on your frd but they def redeploy in time if you retreat as soon as ignited

[sonic willow]

ignite is 19s cooldown
frds with no pots redeploy is 18s @unreal oar

[sharp wadi]

If you have lumen

[lapis hornet]

yato window is super super tight tho without pot and even then it's only one in 2

[unreal oar]

its what i do. its not consistent

[foggy grove]

what's your frd?

[lapis hornet]

bring/borrow sa if you can't execute ig

[sonic willow]

it is consistent 💀

[cosmic thicket]

Try retreating red first

[sonic willow]

just go into bullet time every time you need to deploy/retreat

[unreal oar]

i do retreat red fist

[sharp wadi]

Just bring anything gravel melantha plume yato regardless pot still works just keep your flag before first fireball waves

[lapis hornet]

or be powergamer do strat without baiting

[sharp wadi]

At least 4-5 melantha works either bait and clear 🌹

If you're new, your have to know what 🌹 is

[cosmic thicket]

Hmm

[lapis hornet]

stay off drugs they bad for you excrist

[cosmic thicket]

Do you have canta?

[sonic willow]

bro is sick in the head

[unreal oar]

ye i have cantabile

[craggy hare]

Use her then. She's a pseudo-frd

[cosmic thicket]

Try gravel/yato/canta...?? I don't know their exact redeploy times so it might not work

[unreal oar]

she deploys faster than red?

[lapis hornet]

faster than yato

do you have jaye

[sonic willow]

jaye is good bait

[cosmic thicket]

Actually scratch that I'm not thinking

[sonic willow]

5dp base, 25s frd

[unreal oar]

i have jaye too

[lapis hornet]

can rotate jaye/canta and gravel for the second

[sonic willow]

just don't keep him on the field or you go dp bankrupt

[craggy hare]

TexAlter bankrupts you faster tho XD

[cosmic thicket]

Nah at least texalter refunds dp

[unreal oar]

Red is listed as 18 sec cooldown. jaye, yato, canta all take longer than that. pretty sure Talu's ignite interval is also 18 sec

so because i have no red pots, she is always a frame too late

[craggy hare]

Talu's interval is 19s iirc

[sonic willow]

ignite is 19s

so it's just skill issue or hand issue

[foggy grove]

that timing can be kinda tight if you play 2x speed

[lapis hornet]

don't play 2x

[unreal oar]

[foggy grove]

🤯

[craggy hare]

There's an easy solution to that

[lapis hornet]

again borrow silverash if you need bigger window

[cosmic thicket]

yeah play on 1x or swap between 2 and 1 when it gets close

[unreal oar]

comes into #strategy, gets skill issue'd

[cosmic thicket]

Could be worse

[foggy grove]

what is worse

[vital arrow]

Are you aiming to bait literally every burning breath?

[cosmic thicket]

Could be skill issue'd with insults

[vital arrow]

I don't think that's possible to do consistently

[cosmic thicket]

no u can

[lapis hornet]

it is

[vital arrow]

You can but its very tight

[unreal oar]

well i cant have the ignite on my healers, they get nuked

[vital arrow]

Manage your deployment order then

[cosmic thicket]

if u want to make it slightly easier bring a summoner to bait stuff

[foggy grove]

you need to deploy 2 unit in 1-2s time frame

[vital arrow]

You can make do with 2 burning breath on your ops

4 is when it becomes too much

[lapis hornet]

it's a pita cause they spread

ig you could use a what's it called, whisperain type to make it easier

therapist?

[vital arrow]

Therapist

[foggy grove]

therapist

[vital arrow]

Lumen S2 can cleanse the burn

[heady hedge]

the rapist

[tidal sedge]

Therapist medic

But best solution go and getting NG.

[sonic willow]

just use gravel and rotate between jaye and red

[cosmic thicket]

that's laaaaaame /hj

[sharp wadi]

Don't use jaye

Dp will drain too much even used in matter second

[scarlet ledge]

this is getting dumber

[sonic willow]

excrist always pops up in chat and says something dumb

[scarlet ledge]

idk dont use expensive ops

use 1-5 dp ops

frfr

[sharp wadi]

If you have only gravel just use charger, you'll get dp back better than jaye except you use him for rose

[vital arrow]

Chargers take 70s to redeploy

Please make up better alternatives

[scarlet ledge]

ngl this is fun

[sonic willow]

come up with something dumber

[sharp wadi]

At least you have 4 frd+ bait still have free slot

[scarlet ledge]

i would use myrtle to block enemy

she is better blocking stuff

[cosmic thicket]

Bro is SERVING UNDERCOOKED FOOD

[vital arrow]

You're not making any sense now

It's not like you keep jaye on the field for 5 minutes

[scarlet ledge]

you could use 8+ bait

much better

[vital arrow]

Anyone can be a bait

[scarlet ledge]

can cycle much better

frfr

[foggy grove]

okay but what about maxed module wild mane and gravel

[cosmic thicket]

just play 1p relay on jt8-3

[vital arrow]

It shouldn't be too hard in the era of texalt and yato

[somber falcon]

Use ntrk and castle as bait, 0 dep cheat

[vital arrow]

I'm pretty sure that already exists

[scarlet ledge]

real

ngl just uninstall arknights

better to touch grass

[sharp wadi]

Just like that

[vital arrow]

?

[sonic willow]

that's a long ass cycle

you'll get wildmane every 3 ignites

[vital arrow]

That sounds like a good deal

3 ignites for 1 wildmane

[scarlet ledge]

jt8-3 is so ezzzzz

frfr

[sonic willow]

the math isn't mathing

[glass monolith]

HOW I HAVE 1 Mango? I farmed fucking 100 of it

[cosmic thicket]

🥭 here's another

[steep tartan]

thank u to whoever let me borrow their w

just cleared h7-3

[latent anvil]

[weary perch]

https://youtu.be/jRLsEp-YgRY Super glad today was easy. Just bypass the fireballs.

[glass monolith]

What do you mean you can send fireboys to top lane?

[weary perch]

just drop em rocks

[gleaming lodge]

Minus discover ch9 mechanics
AKO, 2023, Colourized

[latent monolith]

Horn S1 is kinda cheese tbh, if I didn't screw up it would have less deaths

[sharp wadi]

Horn s1 kill those critters in two shots

Kinda overkill

[craggy hare]

Horn S1 with TexAlter makes the map really really ez

[brisk pollen]

where will lucian stop and linger? tile 1 or 2?

[latent monolith]

1

[brisk pollen]

nice

[turbid badge]

wow nice 😊

[turbid badge]

lmaoo this stage

the kirara czerny

fun stage

[latent monolith]

czerny + flamethrowers

[turbid badge]

all his atk stacks

[tidal sedge]

Why some people tend to use Saileach instead of Myrtle? I noticed this because I watched arknights contents

[turbid badge]

saileach utility?

and shes cute

[cosmic thicket]

Sail S1 generates more DP over time than myrtle S1 and sail s3 has much more utility

[eager gate]

"over time" is like after 2 finished casts

[tidal sedge]

I get that

[eager gate]

Durin gal is still better if you just need to pull out 2 guards in 10 seconds of a map
But Sail has a mini suzu in s3, that's massive

[tidal sedge]

Guess that's reasonable

[autumn loom]

Also this is a smaller point but sail just has higher stats

[eager gate]

I wish it hit aerials tho
Ch9 6* that doesn't even drop flying enemies

[autumn loom]

So she’s less likely to leak or die if an enemy ends up coming her way

[autumn loom]

Wasn’t sail used to drop the hoverboards?

[eager gate]

She can't target em. Iirc her skill literally says she targets ground

But if they're in range maybe she does

[autumn loom]

[eager gate]

Ground enemies - deal damage - stunning them
It's worded like she won't hit air at all

[autumn loom]

I’ll check real quick

She hits air but doesn’t target them

[polar steppe]

how do you kill invisible enemies if you cant block them(cc11 carts)

[foggy grove]

reveal them with sa,scene,elysium etc

or you can do funi things like blocking it with vigil pet

[cyan gorge]

I just added a Scene buggy and Pass still blows it up

[brisk pollen]

god i did 2 full clear is2 runs and still not enough vanguard/guard to unlock said squad

do i need to do it in medium difficulty or

[foggy grove]

anything but easy

[brisk pollen]

since is2 threw me anything but guard/vanguard recruit

[gleaming lodge]

huh
She isn't that much better
She has slightly earlier DP gen, but that's it really
Anyways you either run 3 flags or no vanguards

[turbid badge]

eeww

s2

m2*

[eager gate]

don't eww me she's not worth 6 t5s

[gleaming lodge]

She is though

You're just not good enough of a player to push her this far

[turbid badge]

to them i guess, no idea what their still buildung

[eager gate]

If I need more fragile i'd just pull out suzu
I MAY run into some stuff where m3 would matter, I'll do it then and only then

[gleaming lodge]

2 less SP cost on a DP printing skill isn't that relevant you're right

[eager gate]

being relevant and being necessary aren't the same

[gleaming lodge]

Playing the game isn't necessary

[eager gate]

And this comment is irrelevant

[gleaming lodge]

🤝

[turbid badge]

🤝

[latent anvil]

🤝

[frigid kite]

🤝

[craggy hare]

Who are those? Just reveal with Tsukinogi. Ez

[turbid badge]

fr

[signal lichen]

actually doesn't a max risk or a risk 35 use tsukinogi

[frigid kite]

Just replace her with Durin

[signal lichen]

durin is cheating

to much power

[frigid kite]

True

[foggy grove]

They use sa or ely

[turbid badge]

anyone have czerny built

i want friend

[signal lichen]

oh i found what i am thinking of

risk 31 supporters without summoners uses Tsukinogi1

i knew some high risk clear used her

she found her place

after you handicap yourself twice

[turbid badge]

look

Tsukigoni Is bad but she IS A OPTION

she is a option.

[signal lichen]

lmao

this clear

doesn't even take the buggy invis

[turbid badge]

No summoners ofc?

no way u think theyll break it

lmao

flawed video fr

[signal lichen]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1p84y1k7JT/?vd_source=a267abc2403db1839d8bc0afd5deb03c

i find it more funny then i should

handi cap yourself to supporters then ban summoner class

ah yes

this unit now has a niche

[turbid badge]

I MEAN

summoners dont reslly

its really judt to ban blue woman

[signal lichen]

no maggie

[turbid badge]

i know some supporrter clears that only ban blue woman

But i guess the ppl that did that one banned summoners as a whole

[signal lichen]

theres 2 other blue womanless 32 supporter clears

at lest on en rec

[turbid badge]

Yea

[signal lichen]

yeah no scene and no maggie tho and u only lose 1 risk

thats neat

[turbid badge]

Yea

Maggie useful af

Kill casters

Or just bring them down

low

wait acv

no

cuz only 33

32*

so u can ignore some of those hp and atk down risks

Yea kill casters if timed

[signal lichen]

attack down 2 hp up 2

instead of 3

oh actually other supporter clear took attack 1 hp up 3 idk actually how much better worse the comaprison is

[steep tartan]

Wtf why react with the x

[latent anvil]

[glass monolith]

my favourite is someone reacting with X on correct statement in help causing local bar fight

[sonic willow]

ok I'm doing mn-ex-8, hammer bro charges and gigasmashes penance. poor skalter behind penance got erased

[sharp swallow]

I’m doing the CC County Hillock Depot, and I activated everything in it to beat it but I can’t

Is it literally ranged only?

Quite literally nobody can tank

I would throw some Fast Redeployments in there too, but if the fire ball hits them, it kills them and literally every other operator around it

[latent anvil]

Yes, don't block a single fireball

Also #cc-central but just use range stuff, maybe borrow mlynar put him on bot face up and two skill activations should kinda clear the stage tbh

[ebon sonnet]

I got lvl 90 m3s3 mylnar if anyone wants

[cursive wedge]

exu s3 can help kill fireball dudes

[restive sorrel]

approximately how much arts damage is risk 15 flamethrower bro's continuous dmg in todays daily?

[willow grotto]

how do u set ur opening for risk 33 without bagpipe?

i have sail myrtle ely texas vg and flametail

[latent anvil]

Without bagpipe....

[gentle finch]

skull

[latent anvil]

What dp risk

[willow grotto]

t3

i did it for max risk w1 but idk with the sp cost risk

[gleaming lodge]

How about you don't take DP down 3 if you don't have the vanguards to support it

[latent anvil]

I mean without BP taking that sp risk

Must be flametail Elysium or saileach start probably

Because you have to also kill those enemies

And if ur on block -2 flametail can't even block enemies either so...

[gleaming lodge]

Bagpipe is bag

No bp

:lappphone:

That aside you are right

[latent anvil]

[gleaming lodge]

Back at you

[latent anvil]

Bp is bagpipe

[gleaming lodge]

No

[pallid veldt]

Bp is blue poison

[gleaming lodge]

And it has never been

Bagpipe is bag

[latent anvil]

[gleaming lodge]

bp is blue poison

[pallid veldt]

I agree

[latent anvil]

I shall

[gleaming lodge]

There is no debate

[latent anvil]

Die on this hill

[gleaming lodge]

Cool

You're now confusing everyone

For 0 gain in practicality

Great job buddy

Me all you want

[latent anvil]

[gleaming lodge]

It won't change the fact you're the only one using this

And it helps no one

[latent anvil]

I'm not the one getting mad

[gleaming lodge]

I would like to at least agree on abbreviations with #strategy ...
It just makes the discussion a lot easier

But alright, if you insist
Have a good rest of your day

[latent anvil]

Are you on -2 block

[willow grotto]

yup

i did r29 by opening the stage with ely + texalter, then myrtle then charge mlynar. texas for stun then mlynar slash the early ergates

[sly drift]

Just passed on this channel and saw BP is Bagpipe. Bagpipe doesn't even have space in between. And so, BP as Bagpipe is irrelevant

[pallid veldt]

Ture

[latent anvil]

no

[willow grotto]

gotchu ill try

[sly drift]

And I think we called Blue Poison as BP since waaay long ago along with platinum as plat. This WGS dude probably born yesterday

[pallid veldt]

Another bag = bagpipe believer

[willow grotto]

ill get bag on shop

bad timing

if only bagpipe appeared before cc11

[pallid veldt]

Yeah unfortunate that it come after cc11 ends

[willow grotto]

suzuran just came last week and i cant raise

if only i have resources for suzu

[latent anvil]

Teta

[willow grotto]

i can just borrow bag

[latent anvil]

You're with me right

[pallid veldt]

Teta is BP bagpipe or blue poison

[turbid badge]

This comment is irrelevant

[pallid veldt]

Theres only one right answer

[latent anvil]

Bp stands for both

[turbid badge]

just call bagpipe flagpipe

[pallid veldt]

What

[latent anvil]

Just use context to figure it out

[turbid badge]

wait thats longer

[pallid veldt]

Why would you do that when its the same number of characters

[turbid badge]

Than bagpipe

[pallid veldt]

Even more

Yeah

[latent anvil]

I don't wanna change my ways

[turbid badge]

😂

[pallid veldt]

[turbid badge]

Bp

Bp

[latent anvil]

Yea

Bagpipe and blue poison

[turbid badge]

i mean i feel like if anyone used these abbreviations we would know cuz context

[willow grotto]

bp is blue poison

[pallid veldt]

Yo facts

[latent anvil]

Oh and blood pressure

[turbid badge]

Unless there like Should i add BP to my team

[latent anvil]

stop I don't wanna conform

[turbid badge]

bp battle pass

[latent anvil]

@ Juno can I call bp bagpipe

[turbid badge]

wtf irrelevant to strategy wgz banned

[latent anvil]

It's relevant

[turbid badge]

just spell the name i guess

[latent anvil]

I'm still losing then

Either way, no bagpipe high risk cc is just pain

[willow grotto]

so real

r32 doable for me

but r33 with sp risk, i doubt it

[latent anvil]

Just do it once with each vanguard and if you literally can't deploy anything usable, give up

Sometimes it's just not possible

[pallid veldt]

Just dont take dp3

Honestly

[latent anvil]

They want 33 not 32

[pallid veldt]

Yeah

So what

[latent anvil]

Well

[pallid veldt]

Just take like

[latent anvil]

Yea opening is better than just not opening

[pallid veldt]

Dp2 hp2 atkdown2

Or something

Idk

[sly drift]

Funni hp

[lethal dragon]

Hmm is she maxed

Yep she isn't

It's painful how you need pot for 3k atk

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1013602672294760488.png?quality=lossless

So close to 20k

[gentle finch]

lol

just max level

[sly drift]

How is it even question the level literally stated in biggest font size

I want to max her but take too much resources

[gentle finch]

poor bloke

[turbid badge]

me to

[latent anvil]

haha

[steep tartan]

How do you get that much HP, is it from AH buffs?

[scarlet fulcrum]

Mod and skill

Oh almost forgor, if u look at her defense most likely support contract used

[foggy grove]

skado has like half of that without contract

[lethal dragon]

Easy 12k hp

[dapper meadow]

How would Penance fair in SSS in place of Mudrock here? Gets rocked harder by the big guys, or will she get enough shielding?

havent used her in SSS yet. Dont really need to, just curious

[sharp wadi]

Just foldder

Mud still better for slippy mobs

[dapper meadow]

yeah that stun is insane w/ some van stacks

[latent monolith]

Penance fairs pretty well in SSS tbh

You can give her 5vg and she has almost permanent skill uptime

The reflect + very high atk works pretty well

[turbid badge]

Ye

I used her

Its reallly reallly

decent choice to use

especially to just hold a lane

[dapper meadow]

sweet

[turbid badge]

and esp since u dont use medics

[dapper meadow]

love Mud, but wanna switch things up

[turbid badge]

Atleast in this SSS

cant waitfor the future maps to arrive lmfao

the attack penance gets with max stacks is like 8k?

With skill up

lol

pretty funny

esp since her reflect

[latent monolith]

Mine isn't even M3

Her main attack just one shots small enemies

And her reflect hits hard too

[lethal dragon]

Reflects 50% atk so it's hugeeee

[dapper meadow]

ooh forgot about that

[vernal lion]

afk strat for lazy persons kek

[latent monolith]

There's also a horn tile behind blue box

[turbid badge]

lol

[vernal lion]

that tile can only reach to 3 tiles
while that top tile is 4

also, the idea is how to sync the dmg with enemy movement

[vague rock]

Dang what the hell was R8-8

Not sure if it's even possible without texalter

[latent monolith]

silverash was the og way to clear it

afterwards we got gg

now texas solo

Yato alter can solo too

[turbid badge]

?

[vast rivet]

Kinda funny choice when right is obv better lol

Uhh

Oop wrong channel

[vital arrow]

We have SA, eyia, GG, mlynar for that

The texalt brainrot has reached chapter 8

[foggy grove]

surely people wait for texalter release to clear it

[latent monolith]

I waited texalt release for like 5-3 cm

Because the mountain I borrowed and dropped to open died

[foggy grove]

what is 5-3

[latent monolith]

I just went "screw this" and proceeded to do all the other chapter 5 and 6 CMs

[latent monolith]

4 casters and some enemies from the middle

[foggy grove]

oh the skadoo/surtr popular borrow

[latent monolith]

Texalt brainrot reach chapter 5 fr

[foggy grove]

now i'm scared

[vital arrow]

Surtr cheeses it

Then phantom

[foggy grove]

even jaye

[glass monolith]

Ambriel wololo

[foggy grove]

ambriel on r8-8 must be good
||at aiming roadblcok||

[turbid badge]

lol

used to be phantom borrow

or skadi

s2

[sharp wadi]

there's many way to cheese

[elder flume]

Hm

[glass monolith]

Are you trying to swap them between boxes?

[vague rock]

Wait Texas can solo R8-8?

[gleaming lodge]

What are you trying to do ?
Surely you aren't stuck on this stage

[elder flume]

I can get right side casters to left wall with weedy s1m3

[glass monolith]

Yes, he switcherooing them

[elder flume]

Right side be free of barrage

[sly drift]

This stage bring back some painful memories

[latent monolith]

Yeah

[viral surge]

This makes me feel a lot worse lmao
I came to ask for tips on R8-8 and then see all this, funny coincidence though

[gleaming lodge]

Bruh
That's an interesting 5-3 tech I guess

[pliant zodiac]

holy fuck that was the closest game i had yet

[timid schooner]

this sent me flashback

[tidal sedge]

Ambriel IS3 solo stage

[sharp wadi]

I saw in bilibili she can solo ending 4 with ||a mountain of artifacts||

[gleaming lodge]

any op with decent utility can solo the entire gamemod if you're lucky enough

[heady hedge]

yeah

i solo'd knight with sexas

no bladedance, no -rdp relics too

[sharp wadi]

I want to stole your luck, seem you more lucky than me

[gleaming lodge]

just get blue bladedance

[glass monolith]

My average ending 3 in IS3 is "Hold this 8k hp Penance and i'm out of here"

[gleaming lodge]

that's not a lot of HP though

[glass monolith]

I am never lucky on relics

[gleaming lodge]

that's because you don't belive in them

just get glory pack and tape

[glass monolith]

YOU CAN DO IT LUNACUB

Let's fucking go

[gleaming lodge]

lunacub ?

maybe that's why you are not favoured by fate....

[glass monolith]

She works when she does, issue is normally she doesn't

Used her in todays daily to give me better light to helidrop Viviana into NPC jail

Which was completely not part of any plan and just worked

[sonic willow]

penance makes spewer stages so easy wtf

[gleaming lodge]

I find Firewatch S1 to be much better than what Lunacub does

[weary perch]

https://youtu.be/ZvWHjioiyS4 Almost gave up on Max Risk this. So bad at timing.

[scarlet fulcrum]

Why self promo when nobody ask

[flat sapphire]

Flex

[glass monolith]

Viviana vs NTR in NL story: Close match which NTR wins
Viviana vs NTR in CC8 map: Bonk, bonk, bonk

[turbid badge]

waow

Me when penance

[tidal sedge]

Who the

Never saw this Operator anywhere

[scarlet fulcrum]

Meaning u didnt play much or no luck

[tidal sedge]

I'm not the biggest fan of IS, so that's why. They're IS exclusive?

[foggy grove]

yeah

[tidal sedge]

Makes sense

[tepid ivy]

Like the other "elite ops"

[glass monolith]

Mini Chen S3

[sour mantle]

Please HG make her gachable

[vast magnet]

add chap 7 shieldguard in as well

[turbid badge]

ew

[tidal sedge]

Protecting them in R8-6 was so painful

[turbid badge]

rosmontis s2 kinda nice w spuria

cuz her s2 increase her atk interval

82% dps increase is pretty nice

ouu toddifons s2

and aosta s2

best one prob fia and her tho

U can also add a therapist medic

like she needs one

lul

[ionic mortar]

Having trouble with this stage

[tepid ivy]

Will probably need to continue strengthening your roster before those

[latent anvil]

Need pusher

@ionic mortar

[tepid ivy]

Yeah a pusher or a puller

[latent anvil]

Push those wraiths into hole

And pull bot right into hole

You put shaw face down on tile right above blue box

Push all those enemy that can't be blocked into the hole

[ionic mortar]

Got it

Which character is a good puller?

[latent anvil]

Rope is cheap option

[tepid ivy]

Any work

For that

[glass monolith]

Gladiia

[latent anvil]

Gladiia is okay too

[tepid ivy]

Cliffheart can be got for free too

[ionic mortar]

Got it

[flat sapphire]

Sadge. No one mentioned snowsant

Omg is that

Wgz

[lethal dragon]

Who is SS

[ionic mortar]

?

[flat sapphire]

Dis qt

[ionic mortar]

Anything else?

That I should change?

[flat sapphire]

That's probably fine? Just try it and see how far u get

[tepid ivy]

You need cliffheart at skill 7 probably

[flat sapphire]

Btw, if u force close the game while doing anni, u don't lose sanity and u can retry

[ionic mortar]

That I don't have

[tepid ivy]

You'll probably leak some when 2 bottom guys come at once

[flat sapphire]

Watchu trying to pull anyway, weebs?

[ionic mortar]

Think I should prioritise doing this instead?

[flat sapphire]

It's not actually recommended to farm those coz u can get exp and lmd for free from ur base

[tepid ivy]

You'll need them eventually though

[ionic mortar]

Yeah...

[tepid ivy]

They can be useful especially if in a hurry

[flat sapphire]

They're just very inefficient coz u can be spending sanity somewhere else

But if u just need like 1 or 2 runs to max an op or something then it won't hurt ig

[ionic mortar]

There is just so much stuff in this game that I don't what do prioritise doing

[tepid ivy]

Its hard to not feel like rushing at first

Steadily getting your ops improved is usually best

[ionic mortar]

Should I be doing story first?

[flat sapphire]

Do story till u can't anymore then u can start building ops

[tepid ivy]

You can. Theres no rush on most things other than events

[flat sapphire]

It's recommended however, to build ur base slaves asap

Ops that improve base production

For lmd and exp

[random widget]

Ceoooo!

[flat sapphire]

The current event is basically a dead event for newer players since it doesn't offer u much

[ionic mortar]

Story wise, I'm a bit stuck here

[glass monolith]

As far as i recall you just touch grass with sniper and block

[flat sapphire]

i don't rly remember older stages ngl

[glass monolith]

i recall few extra cancer stages, and this is not one of them

[random widget]

Leave it to me!

[sour mantle]

Just put melee ops + medic in bushes and it should work

[ionic mortar]

Got it

[frigid kite]

Looks hard

[ionic mortar]

That helped

[hasty parcel]

Spidfoorm gud?
Blaze bad? Ch'en or Irene better?

[turbid badge]

whats this

[gentle finch]

qué

[turbid badge]

speedclear?

[gentle finch]

probably

[hasty parcel]

Yeah, trying to optimize that shit.

Wondering about dumping Blaze.

If you have any ideas on how to tweak it - gib shout.

[latent anvil]

Last enemy is top so just oneshot top and you good I think

[hasty parcel]

Ch'en, IG.

Should be faster than Irene.

[sour mantle]

Ch'en, so you don't have sp issues ig

[hasty parcel]

Thx, guys.

[gentle finch]

Glad I could help!

[sour mantle]

Else do trust farm with mud + phantom

[cyan gorge]

I did a 4 op on that map with Penance

her reflect kills the artillery

it would be 3 but I don't have Mountain

[sour mantle]

Penance can't solo ?

[cyan gorge]

she can't hold 2 lanes

[sour mantle]

She can't kill the enemies of the lane she don't hold with precise skill timing ?

[cyan gorge]

place her right and she's already holding off 3 lanes of enemies

[turbid badge]

whats the fastest tume

Fastest time

[cyan gorge]

she doesn't have the aspd to hit the undefended 4th

[sour mantle]

Sadge, so 2op is the minimal requirement :c

[cyan gorge]

yeah Penance reflect even maxed out doesn't kill the artillery in time

[sour mantle]

Bruh she useless

[turbid badge]

M3 right. Level 9 0. As well? enter, enter.

[cyan gorge]

Nvm I found the issue

[sour mantle]

Tell us

[cyan gorge]

it works even if you place Mountain last

[gentle finch]

[sour mantle]

You mean it does not work even if Mountain placed last ? cause the reflect isn't enough

[cyan gorge]

I forgot to place Penance facing down but yeah it works

the artillery splash hits Penance too even when targetting mountain

thus reflect still works

[turbid badge]

[sour mantle]

The last artillery does not take a pause, is that an issue ?

[cyan gorge]

nope

[turbid badge]

idk

Maybe not

[cyan gorge]

you could time it so Penance skill is still active when it spawns

[turbid badge]

lmao the sounds so satisfying

[cyan gorge]

just wait a few seconds after the top left one spawns

[sour mantle]

I feel like it's still easier and need less requirement with redeploying Phantom

[cyan gorge]

Penance + Mountain is just afk besides pressing Penance skill twice

[turbid badge]

Use chalter

Top

lol

she shiuld just destroy everything

like 1-2 shotlol

[cyan gorge]

Budget mountain

[gentle finch]

interesting

[hasty parcel]

It's all about that last guy. Regular Ch'en will be faster... by 0,00001 sec
Ch'alter should be good for those that need to save slots, IG. I'm down to the last 2 so - meh.
Plus: I don't have the bitch so there you have it!

[sour mantle]

If you're speed farming, the less ops you have in the team the faster are the loading screens. Don't forget that

[hasty parcel]

You trollin' or what...?

This will never end. 3,5y and I still know shit.
On the other hand, I don't visit AKo that often.

[sour mantle]

I've seen shit about fast farming magallan only on 1-7 like no other ops in the team and it seems it's a real thing, haven't verified by myself or anywhere else.
Let me check

[turbid badge]

Obviously 'cause it's less frames to load in.

[hardy fog]

does mon3ter count as a summon

[turbid badge]

It's not by much, but it's still some time.

[hasty parcel]

Yes, me says.

[cyan gorge]

@hasty parcel What's your fastest time?

[hasty parcel]

No idea, dude. I could time it and SS you the result but I've not switched to Ch'en yet.

[cyan gorge]

I timed my 2 op and it was almost exactly 2 minutes

[sour mantle]

Less data to load yup but I have not real source for that, i mean for the moment, maybe if I find the video again

[hasty parcel]

TBF, it's not a bad idea to time it with Blaze and Ch'en after that. Will see if it made any difference.

[hasty parcel]

When do I start the timer? The second when Operators get unlocked/ready to deploy?

[cyan gorge]

I only timed the stage auto (from the moment dp timer started to stage completion)

loading times idk

[sour mantle]

If you count loading screens i should say the moment u click on the button to start the stage

[cyan gorge]

my pc is balls so loading is extra long

it's shorter when I play on mobile

[hasty parcel]

I'm not that really interested so, don't waste your time on me.
All in all, I never took that factor under consideration so - thanks for the info'.

[earnest remnant]

About Lumen S3.

Did someone need to be in "not-full-hp" in order for Lumen to get rid of their stun?

[cyan gorge]

Yes

[sour mantle]

https://youtu.be/B_xjzBMAoeM

[hasty parcel]

Yup, that's what I had in mind. I'm on tablet though so it'll most likely be slower than your PC.

[earnest remnant]

I'm thinking about making combo with Rockrock S2 and Lumen S3.

[cyan gorge]

you only lose 2 seconds at best

[sour mantle]

Found the video, idk if he edited the speed of rushes, I guess not, because it would be stupid for the point he tried to explain.

[hasty parcel]

We'll see. Will time my Blaze comp' in a minute.

[hasty parcel]

Okay, back. Tried to be as accurate as possible. Started when the DP counter started rolling - stopped when the kill count went 43/43.

Done 2 times (the 1st time my SS didn't print)
Same time.

[cyan gorge]

decently fast

idk what the fastest would be

[hasty parcel]

I doubt Ch'en will cut 1 sec. down but when I finally switch, I'll time her.

Ps: Wiping Mortar guys with Tex'alter. Everyone lv90/M3.

[sour mantle]

Wiping last mob with Texter isn't as fast as Chen?

[hasty parcel]

That's an idea too but he a big boi. Ch'en should be faster

No, wait, Tex' on CD when the last fucker rolls out.

My Phantom's lv90/M3 aswell but... nah.

[sour mantle]

Oh so it's not even an option, fine ig

[hasty parcel]

Technically I could use Phantom, I mean, my bench is already littered with useless Ops'.

For Tex' It'd be better to switch to S2, than S3

[high crest]

Is phantom still good?

[hasty parcel]

In a situation like this - sure.

[sour mantle]

No, his only niche is being able to be at 2 places at the same time, and it's not a really good niche.

This map is the exception imo, but don't build him for that, just use 2 frdp.

[hasty parcel]

He covers less ground than Tex' though.

(unless you count his Puppet in, but that's still more work and time when compared to Omertosa, no wait - it's still 8 tiles vs 4, Puppet or not)

[sour mantle]

Maybe it's a hot take but I would put Phantom under Red in a tier list.
Texter & Kirin at the highest rank, then then Phantom.

She's cheaper to build, fastest stun bomb of the game, and can hit better on high def enemies because of her talent.

[sour mantle]

Not on Phantom S3 but who use this skill ?

[hasty parcel]

Not me. I only Mastered his Opus skill.
And to back our boi up a bit - Phantom can hold onto his stacks until the target gets in range. My Red's E2 but I've not used her in ages but she has to be dropped at the correct time, iirc.

I personally prefer Phantom's mechanics. He's more pepega-friendly

AFK and idiot-friendly mechanics are my personal favorites.

Oh yeah, and tits. Rarity + AFK + idiot-friendly + tits.

[sour mantle]

Phantom's chest?

[hasty parcel]

Tits be last of the 4. Red lost from the git-go since she's a 5-er

[bitter otter]

new phantom mod on CN will fix him

[latent anvil]

Just give him two clones with double dmg and no deploy slots taken up by them

Also half the redeploy time for them

[foggy grove]

his 2nd mod will make him relevant #trust

[latent anvil]

And double dmg because he still won't do more dmg than Tex

[foggy grove]

he is just dead

[scarlet fulcrum]

prob the current clown will not eat deployment slot, and stronger in wording changed. (Atleast same stats as thorns) 🚮

Oh wait phantom 💀

[sour mantle]

Maybe more clones can be fun but still...

[hasty parcel]

Damn, you guys mean! He's great! He totally saved my ass on... uhhh... uhhh... FUCK YOU, HE HAS A COOL CAT!

[sonic willow]

phantom ass

yato release will bury him 5ft under

[idle knoll]

Does the collectible that gives the IS3 knight less defense make the final bossfight easier? Cause I've always been picking the other option but have had my runs die at the final battle.

[sonic willow]

yes

[foggy grove]

it is

[sonic willow]

knight boss without the debuff has 4k defense

[foggy grove]

but also make it harder to escort him

[idle knoll]

Got it

Honestly I'm surprised I somehow managed to almost beat him that one time

[hasty parcel]

Fought him 6 times. Score's 4:2 (in my favor), guess how many times I got that debuff encounter - 1.
So yeah, maybe I'm just unlucky but I'd say: Always take it!

[turbid badge]

wait for his module news!!

surley hg wont give him the fartooth treatment

[steep tartan]

so cute......

[hasty parcel]

Well, shit - she actually made a tiny bit of difference. I thought it's gonna' stay 01:47.
I dunno' if I could go any faster but I don't care. Leaving it at 01:46.

[timid schooner]

pfffffff

her s3 is so fun to use lmao

[sour steppe]

ok guys, somehow I finally made into skadi, how I kill her

[hasty parcel]

Tried #is-station?

[fallen terrace]

So the New SSS needs Artsknights?

[cosmic dagger]

new sss like the rework during reedic event?

[foggy grove]

nah

[cosmic dagger]

ground based carries completely dominate the first rotation there actually

penance mlynar with supporter/vanguard spam can clear hard mode no problem

second rotation you can kinda do whatever, but healers are almost required since poison mist is back in the raythean tower

[pallid veldt]

Wait wtf SSS has hard mode now?

[cosmic dagger]

double rewards

less grinding

prayge

[foggy grove]

in cn they do

[fallen terrace]

The last part have Defense heavy enemy tho

[cosmic dagger]

not an issue to uncle

dude be hitting them with like 10k dph

[fallen terrace]

My Gavialter and Mudrock takes time clearing it

[cosmic dagger]

ohh you mean current sss

not reedic revamp

[fallen terrace]

The mobs seems have lots of def

Yeah the slugs

The baby and big one has pretty tough def

I didnt bring much arts on the last part took me a while to clear it

[foggy grove]

i used irene pre nerf on that map

uncle should be cakewalk now

[sly drift]

I want to know if mizuki 2nd mod better than HER first module.

The first mod don't help her S3 at all

[cosmic dagger]

mizuki a girl fr

[sly drift]

Fr

[cosmic dagger]

damage mod is still generally better

[sly drift]

So we basically giving up on her s3?

[cosmic dagger]

yessir

[sly drift]

[turbid badge]

??

more target

On s3

cuz talent gets buffed

also mizuki 2nd mod kinda sucks

Its decent i guess

but honestly first mod better

[latent monolith]

Apparently there's an issue where the condition for losing hp also increases by 1

Normally hitting 3 enemies means he doesn't lose hp, with mod 1 it becomes 4

[turbid badge]

stainless turrets frfr

[signal lichen]

the condition for losing hp increases by 1

[opal kiln]

I remember that being fixed

I may be wrong

[signal lichen]

thats the most puzzling wacky thing i have heard about modules to date

[sly pivot]

its fixed

cause i was the first to discover it

[opal kiln]

no way it's khant (founder of Mizuki bug)

🛐

[sly pivot]

clever you should shut up!

[opal kiln]

wtf rude

@ mods

[lethal dragon]

He got angry because you spelt his name wrong

It's khqnt

Not khant

[latent monolith]

isee

[verbal sparrow]

what is the total damage of reed S2, assuming it is put on 2 operators to sandwich a boss?

[somber robin]

anyone got a maxed out ng i can borrow rq for h8-4

[verbal sparrow]

viktorlab seems to be saying it's 100k but that seems too much

[glass monolith]

you didn't input enemy defenses so it shows how much you do against 0 def 0 res enemy

over entire duration

[verbal sparrow]

it's okay, I know it's only theoretical total

I thought it was like supplemental damage but that amount if true is comparable to a 6* arts nuke

[latent monolith]

It's accurate

Reed alter S2 when set up perfectly does have that much total damage

[timid schooner]

crap i just killed the boss

[latent monolith]

Practical damage is a bit harder to calc

[timid schooner]

stelter

[latent monolith]

You can also use reed S2 on surtr to heal surtr

[hasty parcel]

I hated that fucking map.
lv90/M3/X-1
DM your IGN if you want her.

[verbal sparrow]

I guess the balancing here is that the operators have to be in contact with the boss. which can rarely happen for 27s

[main halo]

Hehe

[glass monolith]

Aegir's great wall

[somber robin]

thx i dm'd

[main halo]

I know

[steep tartan]

LETS FUCKING GOOOOO

[somber robin]

i cannot do h8-4

ng skill doesn't come back fast enough for 2nd wave

[foggy grove]

kill slower or pop the s3 early

you can also just retreat and redeploy ng

[scarlet ledge]

@foggy grove aoe caster have no hope for getting saved

did u see her kits? rng

[foggy grove]

i haven't

oh

wtf skill 2 random tile?

is this very bootleg fn

[latent monolith]

The aoe seems huge tho

[somber robin]

ight imma just kill talulah phase 2 so fast she can't react

aw hell she has increased hp in 2nd phase

[scarlet ledge]

skyice

[foggy grove]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/669489344658014208/840970455531651112/04-47-41-0ca437c7.gif

[somber robin]

failed

so horribly

[latent monolith]

Retreat and redeploy ng is faster than waiting for her skill to recharge btw

[foggy grove]

let him cook

[ebon oxide]

what stage is this

[glass monolith]

One of old CC dailies, you can see it on daily rotation off season sometimes

[ebon oxide]

oh ok

i was trying to rmb wh at map this was

and i was like

is this north armory?

[foggy grove]

ancient stage
abandoned high rise

[somber robin]

funny thing is the civilian died to TALULAH and not the fire wave

[signal lichen]

are u letting her burn them by not having anyone on the field

i mean the deserve it for standing there honestly

[somber robin]

I FUCKING DID IT

[tidal sedge]

skill issue

[tidal sedge]

Wondering how did u survive through this

[somber robin]

and now for the reason why i did it in the first place

https://tenor.com/view/mcgregor-ufc-belts-looks-good-gif-23637563

me rn

[tidal sedge]

Bragging about something

[somber robin]

i must've spent like 8 hours figuring it out 💀

for like almost a week straight i put aside 1-2 hours every day forthe map

[tidal sedge]

Ok did u clear The pokemon level cm in chapter 8

[somber robin]

hell nah lol i'm too tired

i need to play chapter 9

[tidal sedge]

Well good luck with the cat caster in 9-19

[somber robin]

[tidal sedge]

well in that level that cat can fly

Took me 10 times to beat it up

[latent monolith]

Just use appurupai

[tidal sedge]

Well u forgot this cat has so high defend?

[latent monolith]

She has like 500 def

That's very little for exu with buffs

[somber robin]

https://youtu.be/-g8RqZDD8mc

[tidal sedge]

Then your Exu attack no different than shooting to metal

[ebon oxide]

does anyone know which frame for silverash fails to reveal after s3 activation

[tidal sedge]

That is his talent

Not from S3

[ebon oxide]

no

when u activate sa skill

he has 1 frame

that he does not reveal invis

i want to abuse that frame

[tidal sedge]

why do u want to abuse that frame?

[ebon oxide]

cc11 max risk

weedy stall

the cars have invis

[tidal sedge]

the problem is that is e2 talent.

[ebon oxide]

we will sleep everyone during the frame cars are invis

[ebon oxide]

e2 talent does not work for 1 frame

there is 1 frame where e2 talent doesn't work

so i need to find that frame

[tidal sedge]

one moment

[ebon oxide]

then we weedy the cars

[latent monolith]

Looks like it kills her just fine

[tidal sedge]

ARE u kidding me

[latent monolith]

I told you mandragora had like 500 def that's basically nothing for exu with any buffs whatsoever

What she does have is a damage reduction shield which is solved by either more buffs or dropping a pillar

Also both my suzu and warf are only M2 so it could kill faster may break my auto when I eventually M3 them tho

[tidal sedge]

ok

[sonic willow]

mlynar best mangodragon nuke

[latent monolith]

Mandragora is a cat tho

[steep tartan]

don't nuke the cat

[glass monolith]

Fred in chapter 10 lore: Nukes the cat

[last mist]

Wrong channel wtf

[steep tartan]

Myrtle

[last mist]

Myrt gonna be buffed with module

[steep tartan]

She's also gonna be in the beginner thing soon™ too
stonks

[verbal sparrow]

Myrtleknights

we were just myrtle's minions all along

[glass monolith]

Block 2 duirng skill

[vernal lion]

the early rush almost cucked me

[gleaming lodge]

Scene 🤮

[vernal lion]

she's good

[scarlet ledge]

naga gamer

[hazy totem]

Penance dealing 10K

[light flame]

big bonks

[merry narwhal]

is there a new SSS map?

please no

[vernal lion]

until you saw a sniper with 10k atk and global-ranged skill

[glass monolith]

And ability to reverse UNO card against stun slug in floor 4

[lethal dragon]

But can she like not atk once in an hour

[latent monolith]

Use spuria surely

[lethal dragon]

Don't have her
Lemme try aak

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/973970675696017498.png?quality=lossless

[light flame]

might need some defender stacks

[latent monolith]

silence alter surely

does silence alter S2 allow any new options for aaking

It's 72% shelter at 30% hp

30% at full hp

That's pretty ridiculous looking at the other abjurers now that I think of it

[foggy grove]

72% from?

[latent monolith]

Her talent is 10%-24% shelter, S2M3 triples it

It's also 12s up with a 24 sp cost so fast cycle

[vernal lion]

don't think she will survive even with that

[latent monolith]

I was thinking more like removing the large sp costs usually needed with aaking ranged units (mainly shining S3) so that you can cycle it

If you could manage with say shining S2 that's already big

[foggy grove]

just use silent s3

[latent monolith]

Only twice per stage

I'll figure it out tomorrow ig

Silence S2 drone should also be deployable anywhere right? So you don't even need to place her near the op getting buffed

And it outcycles aak anyways

[vernal lion]

Aak dmg is 500 x 15
Ambriel max HP is 1595
even if the Shelter effect is always 72%, each of Aak attack is still 140 x 15 = 2100

[foggy grove]

i doubt it's even enough

[ionic mortar]

Having trouble with this stage

[latent monolith]

Forgetting def
Maybe add shining talent ig

[vernal lion]

hmm yea

maybe enough, without Shining

[foggy grove]

ambri still die

another unit might survive

deadeye def is just garbage low

[latent monolith]

I thought gg but she's squishier

I'll do it properly tomorrow

And make a sheet

[foggy grove]

i even maf it with mod 3 shining

gg won't be any better

[latent monolith]

Shelter does apply to like shining S2 shield right

[latent monolith]

No she's worse

[foggy grove]

[latent monolith]

Has like 100 less hp and 15 less def or smth

[foggy grove]

oh shining s2

[sonic willow]

should set up around this area

[foggy grove]

i didn't include that

[ionic mortar]

I've been trying that, but the enemies deals so much damage

[latent monolith]

It's also a 35% def buff while the shield is up