strategy

[frigid kite]

Just fully max your base, it fixes your stress problems

[latent anvil]

fully max base but i pulled for weedy and didnt get

my factories suck

[frigid kite]

💀

[turbid badge]

MLYNAR

for base

forbase

for base

[latent anvil]

mlynar for base

[turbid badge]

hes e1 80

for me

[latent anvil]

actually i should do mizuki huh

for base

[turbid badge]

Uhh sure

i like dorothy and mizuki

cuz of how versatile factory skill are

[latent anvil]

didnt pull for rat (speaking of which my cat killed a rat today)

[frigid kite]

Pro

[latent anvil]

wonder if irl dead rat pics go against this servers rules... i wont test it

do i e2 ceobe for base as well then

do bubble base team

[frigid kite]

I mean, i wouldn't like to see dead rat pic on a discord server from a video game

[latent anvil]

yea thats probably true for most people

[turbid badge]

u mean cermeil

vermeil

[latent anvil]

oh vermeil team

but vermeil is for xp

and im about to convert to 3 gold because gold

[turbid badge]

wtf u have e2 vulcan

waow

[latent anvil]

hell no but i can level for base

if i had weedy i could do automation why i get ifrit dupe instead

[proud drift]

nice team names

surely they don't have any meaning

[latent anvil]

i have no clue what youre talking about

[limpid siren]

Haha porn is the joke

[civic nest]

igneus so funny fr fr

[scarlet fulcrum]

Oh its their fav titles

[tepid lagoon]

I saw a lot of people uses ling+thorn for annihilation...but I dont have thorn...who's a good replacement?

[cyan gorge]

Horn S1

Lappland

[latent anvil]

Mountain+sniper

[tepid lagoon]

ahaa this I have

but I have no mastery lvl for her yet

I just E2'd her recently

[hollow forum]

s1 only really need m1 anyway, so you can probably get it pretty easily

otherwise, just sl7 and more dps from someone else will do

[tepid lagoon]

sl7?

[cyan gorge]

skill level 7

[frigid kite]

Which Annihilation?

[cyan gorge]

I've brought Horn to almost every anni and she does a lot of work

[frigid kite]

This guy @tepid lagoon which one he's doing

[hollow forum]

no idea, probably just annihilation in general

ling and thorns are like, the most common picks for afk anni runs anyway

[frigid kite]

THE Annihilation

Mhm

[hollow forum]

[frigid kite]

Except Anni 3 tho

[elder flume]

surely not anni 1 2 3 cuz those are annihilatio

[foggy grove]

ling and afk

[vernal lion]

I don't think you need afk

[turbid badge]

skalter whale

[vernal lion]

for this mf anni

you can use Lena instead

the point is to keep the summon alive

[sharp wadi]

If you have fia and thorns ez

Also ifrit and stuff for old fashion just put some red at crusher

[tepid lagoon]

most annihilations I saw

but rn I'm doing chocolate streets

[inner cobalt]

Ling for afk? What? Doesn't dragons just. U know. Die? They have 0 sustain

[hollow forum]

I mean, skalter exists, but sure, ling isn't used for afk but still commonly picked for anni regardless

[cyan gorge]

Horn S1 afk solos most of the mobs on main

[inner cobalt]

Afaik ling doesn't really do that great in anni

[surreal star]

anni ling is too many deploy slots

[inner cobalt]

Given that u have to keep dragons dying in mind

[cyan gorge]

then again mine is S1M3, idk how sl7 will fare

[storm current]

Eh

Depend on the stages

In some maps, theres only physical enemies that cant scratch ling

She will work

For example, MN anni and MB

[elder flume]

shifting civies would be fun

[inner cobalt]

Some maps doesn't = commonly picked like stated

She's just generally not great in annis

[storm current]

Tell me how many anni she doesnt work

Or rather, which one

[proud drift]

if anything, isn't skalter ling duo probably one of the stronger ones due to how strong it is?

[inner cobalt]

I see more people struggling to try use her in anni and then doing better after removing her

[proud drift]

only thing it can't do is range and it can flop to arts and/or big burst damage

which CAN be salvaged by s1 usage of skalter

[storm current]

Anni 1 and 2 wont count since you most like likely wont have an e2 unit
Anni3 is not the best but workable with skalter
Anni4 is easy solo carry
I dont remember the others

[hollow forum]

from what I'm seeing, there's at least 1 ling + 1 / 2 extra 6* clear for basically every anni starting from 3

[storm current]

@inner cobalt ok but
What does your team look like without ling

The context is ling carry

[inner cobalt]

Case by case scenario

[storm current]

Not 11 6* + ling

[proud drift]

well

ling teams are usually

ling + skalter + random unit

[inner cobalt]

Skadi alt is also pretty mandatory when u use ling huh

[storm current]

No, only anni3

[proud drift]

well

not mandatory

but she is extremely useful

[storm current]

Because anni3 is the only one with constant hp pressure

[proud drift]

for healing dragons you can also do perfumer

[inner cobalt]

That's copium and u know it sorry

[proud drift]

it's not tho

[storm current]

[inner cobalt]

Hella is lmao

[storm current]

Anni maps are long enough that perfumer work fine

Ok but what if i ask you

Do you know how much perfumer regen heal for

Compare to skalter

[glass monolith]

How short map should be for Perfumer to not work fine? DH-9 45.1 second speedrun?

[storm current]

Funny survivalist

[inner cobalt]

I did some testing before and got like something over 100/s with some buffs

[storm current]

And how much does perfumer for

[proud drift]

with s2m0 at mod3 perfumer can do 80hps

ah wait

mod gives atk

[vernal lion]

yea

[proud drift]

89.5

[storm current]

Due to anni map design

Theres always multiple lane

[inner cobalt]

Sorry what

[storm current]

Where skalter literally cant cover all dragons

?

I asked

How much healing perfumer have compared to skalter

You answered skalter

But not perfumer

[inner cobalt]

No i answered perf

With some buffs

[storm current]

And how much is skalter

[inner cobalt]

Idk lmao more?

[storm current]

Actually less

[proud drift]

skalter s2 is less

I think

[storm current]

30% of her atk ~100

Oh wait

Its 20%

[proud drift]

well

[storm current]

[proud drift]

depends

[inner cobalt]

Wat lmao

[proud drift]

but skalter also has S1

which

[inner cobalt]

I mean

[proud drift]

is very useful for cases of big bursts

[inner cobalt]

Def buff too

[proud drift]

thing is

perfumer can work jsut fine

[storm current]

Def buff is extremely irrelevant for ling dragon

When they have 1k def and even more when ling press skill

As well as the atk buff

[vernal lion]

Skalter s1 is used for 10-16

[inner cobalt]

So let's go back to the original question. Ling commonly picked for anni afk?

[storm current]

[hollow forum]

didn't I already admit that I was wrong with the whole afk claim though?

[scarlet ledge]

pro

[inner cobalt]

And that was my whole point

[storm current]

Point is

[inner cobalt]

Thank u for coming to my ted talk

[scarlet ledge]

what this

[storm current]

Ling dragon doesnt die that easy on anni

[scarlet ledge]

?

[inner cobalt]

But they will sooner or later

[scarlet ledge]

next anni is sn

[vernal lion]

[scarlet ledge]

easy

[inner cobalt]

And that's what makes them a bit uncommon

[storm current]

They use ling for low rarity/level guides
Not afk pretty much

Since ling doesnt matter if you have a team full of e2

[proud drift]

no not for afk

you can't afk with ling

cause you will need to press s3 for moments

such as 350

[scarlet ledge]

ling afk?

[royal rose]

Do you just bring a bunch of 3* and 4* Defender bait for Chapter 10?

[scarlet ledge]

this is dumb

i get it if u dont press button to activated a skill

[royal rose]

I just struggled with clearing 10-17

[scarlet ledge]

every hard enemy waves

[storm current]

Eh

Adverse or normal

[scarlet ledge]

what is 10-1

17?

[proud drift]

that or have a very chonky unit who can tank it

[proud drift]

fred

[storm current]

Manfred

[scarlet ledge]

oh

i cant remember

[royal rose]

Like who?

[scarlet ledge]

adverse much easier

[hollow forum]

mudrock

[proud drift]

any 3k+ hp defender

[royal rose]

Even Mud just gets drowned in damage

[proud drift]

idk my mud tanked them jsut fine

you can also drop a mont3r

[royal rose]

The worms pop her shield and bring her HP low enough to make the cannon kill her

[storm current]

Mudrock + ifrit should work

Eh

[proud drift]

worms?

[storm current]

Which worm

[proud drift]

the respawned slimes do no damage to her

[royal rose]

The things that give more block

[proud drift]

your mudmud must be defective then

[storm current]

You should spawn camp the cars

[proud drift]

cause they do no damage

[storm current]

Lol

[proud drift]

oh unless cars lol

[royal rose]

Guess it was Manfred’s phase transition

[storm current]

No

Cars buff worms

Make them deal extra art and necrosis

[glass monolith]

And full necrosis bar disables SP gain

[vernal lion]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/952811082035114044/970926844360675379/justusesurtr.gif

Manfred belike

[foggy grove]

my mud die on my blind run
so i just went screw it and use ling

[scarlet ledge]

@storm current i died on n10 berseker cm at f5 on is3

bro four shotted my horn

by throwing spear

then berseker wiped all of it

[proud drift]

how the fuck

[storm current]

[proud drift]

does one miss so many 20%s

[storm current]

The axe dude from MN?

[scarlet ledge]

no

the red rushing one

forgot name

possessed?

[vernal lion]

kek the lizard man

[storm current]

Oh

Those 1750

[vernal lion]

it's 12F, designed by Lowlight

he's invincible

[glass monolith]

W has like 2% to dodge Aak enough to live... Or was that 0.2%

[elder flume]

You can have this too

kaltsit even has categorization for who to heal

[latent monolith]

kal in poison haze stages

[proud drift]

wait why are there two kaltsits

[elder flume]

copy bug

allows u to bring ur own and support of same operator

including alters

very jank

got the skalter recording

https://youtu.be/BuhBC6niAa8

[vernal lion]

lol +50% healing

my Lena is truly solo heal lmao

[scarlet ledge]

@vernal lion i been playing is3 alot
then i look at skill section
i see all new squad lvl is still 2

lmfao

[eager gate]

Kaminingyo was like hell naw I'm not retreating suck it up
I thought they fixed this like half a year ago.

[civic nest]

this is so sad

oh yea

@scarlet ledge

wats the best squad in IS 3 btw

[scarlet ledge]

on first run

for high diff

is safe house squad

now on 4th end came

the relic drop is meta

[civic nest]

ic

relic drop squad got buffed?

or did every squad got buff

[vernal lion]

Exu

[scarlet ledge]

wgat diff

[civic nest]

wait the squads change with diff?

[vernal lion]

imagine not getting 4th end when you're in f5

[proud drift]

Mega bladedance

Actually a fun thing to play with

Sadly

6 fucking months of waiting

[civic nest]

real

[scarlet ledge]

is3 en?

[civic nest]

oh yea IS3 is cn exclusive

i forgor

[proud drift]

Relic drop squad makes u start with bladedance that gains 40% more every combat node (or so kermit said)

Without cap

[civic nest]

wtf

real

[glass monolith]

Chalter in lore: You are not worthy of my sword
Chalter in skin: Swing swing

[tidal sedge]

We haven't even gotten a Highmore preview yet

Ngl the delay has been very interesting in a way.

[proud drift]

En-exclusive content

[eager gate]

Was is3 implemented before ch11 on cn?

[proud drift]

Weren’t we supposed to have it a month ago

[vernal lion]

ah yes

f6 with debuff

now that's fun

[proud drift]

Hmm, guess yes and no

I guess we’re now on 7 month delay and not 6

[eager gate]

are there any events left that we would see before IS?

[storm current]

ok

chalter skin is so

[civic nest]

wait wat

[storm current]

she stop using water gun

[civic nest]

we got the effect already?

[civic nest]

send pick pls

[storm current]

https://youtu.be/XfDbT9-MHjw

[civic nest]

i mean vid

wtf

[river mason]

wait, does she really use a sword in that skin?

[civic nest]

looks pretty good tho

[storm current]

normal attack is sword

skill is ink gun

ink gun

[river mason]

ah yes, the ink gun - truly the most manacing weapon capable of mass destruction

[civic nest]

wtf is that gun

💀

[civic nest]

wat relic did u get

she melting everything fr

[glass monolith]

He just got so much attack speed enemies unrender

[civic nest]

ic ic

[vernal lion]

28 relics

[civic nest]

wth

[vernal lion]

so, +60% range atk, -30% def

[storm current]

is it hard mode

[vernal lion]

not yet

[civic nest]

also

90% healing

[proud drift]

Would have bad relic

If it was hard

[glass monolith]

He has "bad" relic

[gleaming lodge]

This one is good what do you mean' ?

[vernal lion]

hard mode would kill me if it's boss atk increase buff

and keep in mind that I got 2 debuff on f6

enemy got buff and -deploy limit/+squad size

my squad size could be 16 if it's not limited to 12

[proud drift]

Floor mods don’t affect bosses fortunately

[vernal lion]

yea

just help with the mob on the right side

and healing

[storm current]

boi

imagine if you get survivalist

🛐

[civic nest]

even stronger exu

trust

[vernal lion]

the rest is still kinda annoying ngl

that mf from OD is creepy shit

[storm current]

in HM

those originite balls are like 3k def 90 res

wait no

80 res

fuck shit

[vernal lion]

Patriot's friend

[glass monolith]

Chapter 12 boss is partiot of arc 3, then chapter 13 will have Talulah of arc 3

[vernal lion]

Patriot is dead, no? and Talulah is in prison now?

[glass monolith]

I mean like, Chapter 12 boss is THICC, so boss of 13 must be some supreme bullshit lord, right?

[vernal lion]

I must have been reading the lore or smth

[glass monolith]

i think it counts you turning game off and go sleep

[vernal lion]

hmm it is

[elder flume]

so i can just delay final fight and come back 6 months later

[gleaming lodge]

I think your run gets cancelled on major updates (?)

Do we have the numbers on Mumu yet btw ?

[storm current]

her stat, kind of

no numbers on skill

[gleaming lodge]

Or any other info on the robot defender

[storm current]

but her clone copy 90% the stat of the targetted unit

doesnt copy trait btw

[gleaming lodge]

Dude would've been so good for me in NL

[gleaming lodge]

Yeah that makes sense

[storm current]

she copy dmg type and range tho

[gleaming lodge]

So you could get deadeyes without their special targeting

[storm current]

so you can get shit like, ifrit range ST dps

she doesnt care about dp cost

[limpid siren]

you inherit the atk interval too don't you?

[storm current]

so stat stick are pretty nice i guess

ye

for phalanx

i think its just sora range?

since not atk is trait

[gleaming lodge]

Wait wall AoE become ST ?

[storm current]

i think?

[gleaming lodge]

That sounds very sus

[storm current]

since aoe is part of trait

[gleaming lodge]

Phalanx would be ST as well ???

[storm current]

prob idk

they only show fartooth

[gleaming lodge]

What about fortress ?

[storm current]

no clue

but iirc

they interact differently depend on melee or range

[gleaming lodge]

What is the trait wording again?

Lord have "can launch ranged attack" in trait

Does that mean they lose it ?

[storm current]

Skill 3: Immediately get some dp, self and summon atk up, if summon is melee drag all enemies to self + stun all enemies in range, if ranged refresh all summons and summon attacks can bind

uh

i think i have seen it

but let me dig it up

[gleaming lodge]

Not Mumu skills
Just the gellos' normal attacks

[storm current]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586588958885150721/1100293742566580244/MuelTalent.mp4

ye

idk i cant read chinese

[gleaming lodge]

Throw it into google lens ?

[storm current]

manifold

[Automatically respond to manual trigger for a few seconds

It can copy an operator in the area to be deployed. If it is a long-range operator, it can acquire characteristics. Every time it attacks several times, it can be deployed in the surrounding four grids to split itself (for a period of time). In melee, each attack steals the enemy - attack power and defense Force (capped, reset after copying)

apparently the clone has its own trait

[tidal sedge]

Interesting

[storm current]

but what i know is

if range

summon extra copy after a few attack

if melee

[gleaming lodge]

No that's a skill

[storm current]

suck near by enemies in, 3x3 range, and occasionally stun blocked unit

idk

[vernal lion]

get the archetype, but not the trait, that's some new level

[gleaming lodge]

I just want to understand the clones normal attacks

[storm current]

i think thats the only clip we get?

[gleaming lodge]

No there are a couple more but they don't say much

[tidal sedge]

Maybe some traits are ignored?

Imagine if they could copy Dollkeeper trait

[storm current]

im not sure if they copy range for melee unit

[waxen swan]

They don't ignore attack speed I heard

[glass monolith]

Kazemaru: Attacks in direction she is facing
Kazemaru's doll: Attack whereever the fuck it feels like, also drones

[limpid siren]

depends which doll right?

or did they finally fix that

death doll and skill doll are separate entities, and iirc skill doll couldn't slap air

and iirc skill doll doesn't get the module benefits

[glass monolith]

oh right

Also skill dolls spawn whereever the fuck it feels like if you trigger happy and didn't wait to enemy to enter kazemaru range

[tidal sedge]

That's something that annoys me so much

Ntrk s3 has fixed positioning if there's nothing in range

But they went back to random with Kazemaru s2

[glass monolith]

Number of times i spawned Kaze doll behind her is higher than times i used Kaze

[vernal lion]

weapon of Kazemaru and her doll: sword
Kazemaru atk range: melee range
her doll: can hit air with a sword

[elder flume]

drones are only like 4 feet above operators

[vernal lion]

it's more like that sword is 4 feet long

[tidal sedge]

6*s getting number privileges is one thing, them getting qol features too is dumb

[glass monolith]

Chalter lore: You are not worthy of me drawing my sword
Chalter skin: Swoosh

[vernal lion]

https://preview.redd.it/new-chen-the-holungday-skin-v0-ymk8x2gkbzva1.gif?width=500&auto=webp&v=enabled&s=fd2c3496cc9abd1cb27434b562472336716676ff

[latent monolith]

chalter skin is cool dusk takes the L

[tidal sedge]

Yep. Neither module stats nor module trait atk buff

iirc s2 summon doesn't get Specialist-only buffs either, but I'll test that tomorrow

[vernal lion]

now that is an ink-squirt boomstick

also those enemies look like from Star War, wtf

lightsaber?

[glass monolith]

One part which triggers me in Chalter is just stupidity of pressure based Shotgun to begin with

[limpid siren]

this sounds right

the fact that they're distinct entities is a really frustrating blemish on an otherwise incredibly fun unit

[glass monolith]

Like she suppose to have Water/Ink Truck behind her with automatic pump connected to her gun for it to keep having ammo and retain power of shot

[rose patrol]

||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoZ4ztGquIk ||
Are we getting this SSS when Chapter 11 drops on global?

[glass monolith]

We have no fucking idea, but if they do that on next SSS reset i will take it

AK as global player is "We know it exists. But we have no idea when"

[rose patrol]

Yostar loves to delay stuff

[lethal dragon]

Yostar is cooking

[scarlet ledge]

is3 when

[glass monolith]

And based on latest SSS on CN they cooking meth

[sweet marlin]

so what exactly does this relic do

a buff to true damage?

[hollow forum]

pretty much, yeah

[sweet marlin]

but if no true damage its useless

[elder flume]

just have true damage

[unique plume]

been having trouble with jt8-3... i feel like that with my squad i should be able to do it but i'm struggling lol

shouldnt this squad do it? if not what am i lacking

[sonic willow]

Should be easy

[unique plume]

im just poopy woopy with placement ig

[sonic willow]

Borrow NG

[unique plume]

nightingale?

[storm current]

Do you have red

Altho

If you just run ng lumen you can just tank it

[unique plume]

i dont

2nd phase fire is annoying though

s1 or s3 for lumen ?

[storm current]

Easy solution is just

Stall

[glass monolith]

Just kill faster

[storm current]

Use s1

[unique plume]

kay

[storm current]

S3 will run out ammo too quickly

[unique plume]

i kill talulah easy but fire just wipes me

i will stall then

two healers enough then? no 3rd one?

[storm current]

I did mine with s3 m2 NG borrow and e1 lumen

You will be fine

[waxen swan]

I did it way before lumen exist

[storm current]

Yes

But did you do it on the first date

[glass monolith]

Activate S3 NG or S2 Ptilo when fire. Use S1 Amiya when fire.
Die because you leaked every fucking dog in 3 mile radius

[waxen swan]

What first date

You want me to take her on dinner

[storm current]

Oh wait

I didnt even do it on the first day

Because my amiya was still e1

I think i did H stages on the first day tho

[elder flume]

I would date talulah

[storm current]

I wouldnt

She ugly

[supple mountain]

L

[waxen swan]

People like red flag

[supple mountain]

what red flags i only see green flags

[waxen swan]

Blind ass mtf

[storm current]

Rosmontis/mudrock release on chapter 8

So 4/30 was first day to clear jt8-3

And h8 open like a week later

I think theres a medal for doing jt8-3?

Check that one i guess

[waxen swan]

What the name

@storm current

[storm current]

First is jt8-3
2nd is all chapter 8 in CM
3rd is H stages

So i was late by 2 days cuz of amiya

Then took 2 days to complete all H stages

[unique plume]

pro

[vernal lion]

that's my solution

[waxen swan]

Violence isn't the answer but the question

[glass monolith]

"How the fuck do i apply violence to H12-4?"

[vernal lion]

5 clones lmao

[scarlet ledge]

[glass monolith]

Wasn't it 4?

[vernal lion]

yea, herself + 4 clones

[glass monolith]

No i mean like, phase 1 spawns 2 instead 1 but phase 2 still +1

[unique plume]

i get confused asf here what do i do to not die to fire

ng cages?

in front o f saria/irene

or just skill

i never use ng

[glass monolith]

Press NG S3 and just leave

[unique plume]

damn

she seems gud

[glass monolith]

and probably retreat ones who fight talulah as they will be almost back by time fire ends

[unique plume]

yeah i did

wow

she rly just says fuck u to the fire

[tidal sedge]

Should they buff Monst3r's defense?

[storm current]

usually unnecessary since it has high hp

[tidal sedge]

Guess there's no need then

Was Kalt'sit's module also affects it's stats or it just only give it to her?

[storm current]

ok first off

trust stat and module stat only apply to kaltsit

but kaltsit is getting the 2nd module soon

[scarlet ledge]

https://youtu.be/omPgCM3MESQ

[storm current]

which possibly give mon3tr more stat

[sly pivot]

damn who is that

😱

[fresh copper]

Suffering in mat gate issues

[turbid badge]

chalter ink

[scarlet ledge]

true

[gentle finch]

no way

my favourite maleknights player!

[vernal lion]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lUhpwkvLl8

Mizuki s3 tile

[lethal dragon]

Some stinky m*le player

[sly pivot]

im sure he smells great

[sweet marlin]

[vernal lion]

even you killed it, your right side was dead already

[soft crystal]

I should m9 my mizuki

[sweet marlin]

the bear popped the shield right before the last hit

[glass monolith]

You aware you still need to kill mobs after boss?

[sweet marlin]

then after a struggle the right side fell

i know

[glass monolith]

And spawn don't even cease immediately

[sweet marlin]

i think if the bear died before shielding up there was a chance

[glass monolith]

You know i see right part of map, right?

[storm current]

if its hardmode

[vernal lion]

that Fang spot is so fell off lol

[storm current]

its might be easier to get 30 hp and leak boss

[sweet marlin]

that was just last moment desperation

anyway it was very close because the game refused to give me a medic until the very last floor and i couldn't even e2 her

[vernal lion]

your Fang did nothing but making the bear activates the 20-hit-times global aoe dmg

faster

[storm current]

shes "helping"

[latent monolith]

Lee being incredibly based as usual

[sweet marlin]

she tried her best in a last moment effort let her be

[vernal lion]

nice NIKKE opening theme

[vernal lion]

mod2 is kinda whack

[granite moat]

hello, i would like to ask for assistance in H8-4
||on the verge of breaking something in mah room||

[topaz knoll]

have you heard of our lord and savior, nightingale

[glass monolith]

My lord and savior. Random bullshit go

[granite moat]

i was using nightingale this whole time

🥹

[latent anvil]

You can get an extra cage by deploying, immediately selling, and then deploying again

[granite moat]

i know

[latent anvil]

Two frd to bait burn?

Yuu are you accepted into cn

[lethal dragon]

Still no

[latent anvil]

Surely it doesn't take that long

[lethal dragon]

It's 5th day

[granite moat]

i did that too

[latent anvil]

What ur borrow

[glass monolith]

Fire baiting is cringe and make me fuck up and die

[latent anvil]

That called skill issue

[glass monolith]

So i just face tanked H8-4

[vernal lion]

what is your squad

[topaz knoll]

I wonder how people do H8-4 nowadays with the new units

[glass monolith]

i frind support Spaluta to throw her at issues

[granite moat]

give me a moment to send it in

[latent anvil]

I mean if you want you can just ling it

[latent anvil]

NG borrow

[vernal lion]

dude your team is so perfect, wtf

[latent anvil]

Pot6 saria too

Silverash thorns start for drone... What are you losing to

Fireball?

[granite moat]

Yep

[latent anvil]

Is it not just timing issue

[granite moat]

Nope

[latent anvil]

The hitbox of the fireball is weird

[granite moat]

Those civilians are my problem

[vernal lion]

Eunec and Warf can perma stall Talulah iirc

[granite moat]

Can they?

[topaz knoll]

omg

what kinda squad is this

[vernal lion]

Monster and Kal'tsit can, so why they can't

[granite moat]

Oh wait i have an idea...

[topaz knoll]

i've just been called poor in 8 different languages

[granite moat]

What about this?

[vernal lion]

[elder flume]

S2 ling to fight drone?

[latent anvil]

Bring silverash thorns

And maybe you win yeah

[granite moat]

Hmmm, i will try the eunectes strat noe

See if that'll work

[topaz knoll]

doubt ling's gonna kill the drone

not to mention dp problem cringe

[vernal lion]

you can try this

open with SA and Thorn, then just setup like this later

[latent anvil]

Can also stall where amiya is in that picture

[elder flume]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV11B4y117eY/?spm_id_from=333.788.recommend_more_video.1

[latent anvil]

Eun on amiya tile, ng face up to the right of her

[vernal lion]

when I found this perfect spot, it feels like NG is the only one you need here

Thorns dps core

then you just focus on stalling Talulah and protect the civis

[granite moat]

what if i put warf and eunectes on the spot where monster and kal is?

[latent anvil]

That's what they suggest

I'm saying alternative is what I said

[scarlet ledge]

ur big

[granite moat]

oh i see, i mean i do have kal'tsit

but then again

i don't want to use her

[scarlet ledge]

what u trying?

[latent anvil]

Funni civilian stage

[vernal lion]

Eunec does have Sanctuary when in low HP, right?

[latent anvil]

Yes

[vernal lion]

that's better than Amiya, because her melee dmg is True dmg

[granite moat]

and what just bring skill 1 or skill 3 for Eunec?

[latent anvil]

3

Pls don't say s1 eun

[vernal lion]

if you use s3, you need to bait blocking Talulah when she's stunned

[granite moat]

coolio then

[latent anvil]

Eun kills her no?

[granite moat]

S3M3
god i hope so

[vernal lion]

the only problem you need to care is your NG timing

[granite moat]

i will let my phone charge and then i'll try it again with this then

and ng timing i already got it down

slightly before Talulah dies

about 5% health
And calculating the damage, this might be a faster skill so maybe at like
10-20%

[latent anvil]

Optimally it ends at the same time fireballs end

[granite moat]

the only optimal thing in this stage would be if the civilians moved

like my guys

the exits are open for A REASON!

[latent anvil]

Where's the fun in that

[granite moat]

i could kill Talulah however i want and don't need to worry about civilians

only if i was scooby doo

then i wouldn't have to care about that

[elder flume]

they wana watch the fight

customers are kings

[granite moat]

https://tenor.com/view/goro-majima-yakuza-yakuza0-disco-gif-19925696

sad that there won't be a yakuza collab, because no yakuza character would hit a woman

i also can't wait for chapter 12
more civilians that as i heard are even dumber

[glass monolith]

Civilians but amongus

[granite moat]

so enemies can be civilians?

[glass monolith]

It is even better, boss spawn in as civilian

[granite moat]

https://tenor.com/view/rat-gif-26015392

sounds great

[glass monolith]

And one of boss mechanics allow him to permamently remove your operator explaining it by "Basically your operator was another of boss copies"

[elder flume]

boss isnt great at disguising

[granite moat]

...

oh goodie

[glass monolith]

It can be countered at least

[topaz knoll]

kinda like SN boss if ur op gets bit?

[granite moat]

if she removes my W from the operation i will permanently remove them from existence

[glass monolith]

something like it

[topaz knoll]

sounds interesting actually

[glass monolith]

100k hp and has damage resistance like slimes of chapter 10

[vital arrow]

SN boss returna the op if the phase ends no?

[topaz knoll]

😔 unfortunate

[topaz knoll]

im not sure

[vital arrow]

Yeah it does

[topaz knoll]

all i remember is that one chest stage where

my op's just gone even if you kill the boss already

[vital arrow]

So it can be a quick fast redeploy trick for SN

[granite moat]

the hell is SN? Sulf...something navis?

[glass monolith]

Chapter 12 boss has so many HP it is hardly possible to kill it before stage ends to see if it helps

[topaz knoll]

ye

[vital arrow]

Idk if the damazti returns your op after each phase

[topaz knoll]

for some reason i hope it doesn't

[vital arrow]

Idt they actually 'die' since they just split and reform themselves

[granite moat]

anyways, i'll have my phone recharge and try this again
thanks a ton for the help you guys

[topaz knoll]

best of luck

[vernal lion]

ch12 boss is basically sandbag but it's everywhere,
so it's just dps check or hps check

h12-4 clear by 4 star is already nuts

[waxen swan]

Who's the boss

[vital arrow]

The damazti leader

Slime sarkaz

[glass monolith]

And then H12-4 be like "Okay, but what if boss has 50% more HP, 50% more damage reduction and fuck you you won't get DP increase for first half of map"

[vernal lion]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1QStMBQdyI

35 minutes

[topaz knoll]

I forgot abt the dp part of ch12

for ch11

what's the mechanic?

ch9/10 had the cannon

[glass monolith]

Max DP 20, gain 5 per box, gain 2 per non sus civilian

[topaz knoll]

yea

[glass monolith]

H12-4 box unlocks new path to enemies
And there are no civilians for first 30 enemies

[topaz knoll]

gonna have to bench mud for that

[topaz knoll]

what the heck

bruh

💀

[glass monolith]

AH only + 2 medics because content finally outscaled gladiia 10.5 minutes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPyKUo8OBto

Boss is one big CHONGUS unless you use NTR S3, Kal S3 or Mlynar

[elder flume]

its gona be funny if someone plays over 60 mins in game time to realize skalter s2 has a cooldown

[vernal lion]

I'm not gonna say about h12-4 opening with 8 sarkaz sword dudes and 4 crossbowmen, then the imposter civis and invis assassins

[glass monolith]

I don't fear them because i fucking forgot what they do

[vital arrow]

They just have big stats

[topaz knoll]

what if you use all 3

[topaz knoll]

man this thumbnail

😭

[vernal lion]

later that, 2 floating towers that each creates 3 kamikaze blades to harass your defender

Shindeiru...

[glass monolith]

Then perhaps you won't have bad time doing this chapter

Btw, can i leak civilian without checking it if it is not sus?

[vernal lion]

nope, if it's imposter already, it will count as leak

[glass monolith]

i mean, there are guaranteed non impostors, can i leak them without checking that?

[vernal lion]

yes

if they are not imposter

[elder flume]

you just dont get the dp

[glass monolith]

https://tenor.com/view/rat-hand-gif-20474307

[elder flume]

raise dorothy

[glass monolith]

don't own

Yet

[vernal lion]

just raise any trap op

I think there's only 1

[glass monolith]

Don't have

R6 collab, MB welfare, superour rat

[elder flume]

other trappers suck at trap range tho

[vernal lion]

Robin is next 2 or 3 months

Frost is decent, she's more like specialist with support skill if you don't put trap inside her attack range to deal x3 dmg when an enemy stepped on it

she's kinda whack in SN tho

[bleak raven]

How do I beat inscrutable path? I’ve tried for hours it’s so difficult

[glass monolith]

what it is

[vernal lion]

basically just use op with low cost

because of the flower, it will turn your 3 DP cost op to 33 if you have an aoe caster or smth

Mountain, Ling, cheap supporter and medic

you can borrow 1 op to carry

[bleak raven]

I tried mountain but the buffed enemies are too strong

[glass monolith]

What map he refers to?

[vernal lion]

IS2 Deep Investigation

Inscrutable Path is one of the most annoying challenge

[bleak raven]

I always get stuck at the third level boss stage

[vital arrow]

Oh the whiteflower stage

Painful

[glass monolith]

Oh hard mode bullshit, yea you fucked

[vernal lion]

can say, the earlier hardmode trial for you

[vital arrow]

Is the negative relic random?

[vernal lion]

nope

[vital arrow]

Actually cringe

[waxen swan]

It's deep dive

[vernal lion]

maybe RNG tho, Idk clearly

[glass monolith]

more like deep hole

[bleak raven]

What should my team exactly be to be inscrutable path

Beat*

[storm current]

Uh

[vital arrow]

Gavialt/ling looks like a good start for that

[storm current]

Isnt it just

Reach floor 5?

[vital arrow]

Also pick your recruits wisely so you don't cuck yourself

[bleak raven]

Ling + who?

[storm current]

If you want to manipulate RNG, you may want to run shit like

Thorns

[vital arrow]

Thorns kinda ass for hard mode no?

[storm current]

Since he benefits from bladedance more than ling

Nah

Guaranteed bladedance

[vital arrow]

Ou bladedance

Yeah forgor bladedance

[bleak raven]

Thorns solo? To use bldedance

[vernal lion]

yea the negative relic is RNG tho

[storm current]

Thorns is the most reliable assuming you can e2 him

I think he should be strong enough to solo at least 3 of the first floor

Exception are like

Beast fighting

Which you will want gravel/cantabile

[bleak raven]

But how do I use thorns to beat the whole thing

Like reach 20 hope

[storm current]

Uh

Deploy

Active skill

[vital arrow]

Fight with rng, and don't recruit ops willy nilly

[vernal lion]

that is roguelike tho, we don't know the way you play

[storm current]

With white flower

[vernal lion]

so it's just your game

[storm current]

You should plan ahead of who you bring

[vital arrow]

It's 20 hope so the less you recruit the faster you finish

[storm current]

Or you will get shit like 20 cost jaye

Wait

[vital arrow]

And shadow also gets you a free temp op chance

[storm current]

Is it 20 total cost or unused cost

[bleak raven]

💀 this is too much I hate arknights

[storm current]

Ok

[vital arrow]

Gain 20 hope

[storm current]

Let me give you my ultimate IS strategy

"Fuck around and find out"

Since the gamemode strictly require experience

[vernal lion]

give him all the tips on each map tho

[storm current]

Its best to experience it yourself

[vernal lion]

[storm current]

Ah yes

[glass monolith]

IS3 Ending 1 and 4 just can be cheesed by Weedy Ange

[storm current]

Look up guide for every maps in IS

[vernal lion]

where to deploy, the timing

[glass monolith]

But ending 2 of IS3 can go fuck itself

[bleak raven]

Ok

[vital arrow]

Proceeds to regurgitate 120page pdf of IS guide

[storm current]

IS just has too much to summarize within a guide

[vital arrow]

Theres someone who made a master guide for IS rosmontis start no?

[storm current]

Wait

How do you even

When she cant hit flight

And shes still worse than mizuki prob

[glass monolith]

IS2 compared to IS3 don't have 800 drone maps

[bleak raven]

Im just gonna fuck around using thorns first I guess

[sharp swallow]

Would Ethan be a good counter for Avengers on the CC stage

[storm current]

Which CC

12?

You will want manticore for that

[sharp swallow]

The current one

[storm current]

Uh

Post map

But yes

If you meant normal avenger

He help a lot

[granite moat]

so that strategy was a flop as well

talulah straight up one shot eunectes

(two shot to be more exact)

[storm current]

For your information

Talulah deal true dmg

So you just out heal and tank with high hp

[granite moat]

i knew that

and i tried

[sharp swallow]

You going against the Black Snake?

[granite moat]

but
it didn't work

[storm current]

[glass monolith]

Skill issue

[storm current]

Are you sure

Your medic are not defective

[glass monolith]

Double check than your Eunectes is not e0

[storm current]

Since my gamiya could tank

And she has like half the hp

[vital arrow]

Maybe they overlapped the ops for the detonate?

[glass monolith]

and i swear to god if you forgot about black snake explosion and made it overlap 3 times

[sharp swallow]

I used Ptil as heals and Specter, and NTRK for tanking if you have any of those

[granite moat]

no, if i had shadowplay i would have just sent it in here

and how would eunectes overlap with the explosion being disabled on the other end of the map with frds?

[storm current]

Mine work with borrowed NG and e1 lumen

Screenshot your set up then

[vital arrow]

Black snake ignites 2 ops at once no?

And she perma ignites her blocker

[scarlet fulcrum]

Her slash too

[glass monolith]

snake set on fire whoever it attacks, if you place operators next to blocker it still chain reacts you to afterlife

[vital arrow]

And she has enough CD to perma ignite 4 ops on the field, 5 if including her blocker

[granite moat]

^

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yeah ignite will chain on adjacent tile

[vital arrow]

Block with saria?

[storm current]

Set up as in

On map

Not squad

[granite moat]

if i can get to eunectes not being two shotted, and set up my squad i will show you

[storm current]

Actually

Isnt there like

An afk strat with thorns solo dps

[vital arrow]

Isn't that JT8-3?

[latent anvil]

That jt8-3

They're doing h8-4

[storm current]

Oh wait

[vital arrow]

Thorns NG saria SA mountain

[storm current]

Then cant you just

Bring gravel as well then

[granite moat]

i did, instead of mudrock

[storm current]

[somber falcon]

Nah, there's one for h8-4
Just block talulah with saria/blocker + NG and chip her to death with thorns

[latent anvil]

They have phantom... Phantom baits double

[storm current]

In my clear

Ye but

[granite moat]

that was my first try

[storm current]

Phantom instant die from talulah attack, no?

[granite moat]

no if he's on the other end of the screen to bait

[vernal lion]

you just use Phantom to bait the ignite tho

[storm current]

In my clear, i used scene and gravel

And i need to bait the slash attack of talulah using gravel too

Simce it can kill NG

[granite moat]

i can't wrap my head around this stage...

[latent anvil]

Actually from what I remember

My phantom had close to perfect timing on redeploy

[storm current]

Yes

[latent anvil]

To bait fire

[storm current]

Frd cooldown is 18s

[turbid badge]

wow

[storm current]

Fire cooldown is 19z

But clone cooldown is still long af

Its bad

[latent anvil]

[storm current]

Use gravel as well

But for afk strat

[latent anvil]

I don't remember clone timing being off

[turbid badge]

Phantom clone redeploy timer starts whenever clones deployed btw

[latent anvil]

But okay

[elder flume]

normal clone is 35s

[vernal lion]

mod2 and 3 can lower the clone redeploy time even more

45s on E1
35s on E2
31s on mod2
29s on mod3

[granite moat]

[glass monolith]

There is clone on e0?

[granite moat]

aight, i won't be clearing this stage

[vernal lion]

Idk I didn't use him much

maybe only him

[turbid badge]

if kal 2nd module buffs monster talent , i hope this talent gets something good

[soft crystal]

It will

[glass monolith]

She will upgrade her egoism to heal herself and Monster at same time

[granite moat]

this godamn idiotic boss
i love how i can't heal my eunec because when i deploy her on the spot she will be destroyed cause warfarin can't stack her heals, if too early, talulah won't move at all and just keeps spamming the sword attack on her
amazing really

[latent anvil]

Might be a vanguard issue...

[granite moat]

so i shouldn't bring one of the vanguards?

then there will be leaks

[latent anvil]

Also holding the boss at the front is not the only option

[latent anvil]

Nah I'm saying ur vg don't make enough dp

You can just hold next to blue box

[granite moat]

that's not the issue tho

[glass monolith]

why on earth you rush eunectes at not moving Talubruh?

I was intercepting her in middle of map and then do JoJo beating

[granite moat]

because if i do it too late, warf can't get her skill on eunectes
and she died all the same
at the top right flower spawn, at the bottom right crossroad