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ftw orb
Holy
wtf 18 DP

Ye but like
@full finch i mean
ST medic archetype like warfarin cosf 19
warf is 17
Ptilopsis is 17 lmao
-2 from pots
Well
ptilo is 15
Assuming pots
I believe their intention of chain caster is the middle ground between ST and AOE medic

and then lumen is 20+

Imagine having pots
:
Ngl
I was looking at e0 cost 
Nowadays i think therapist and wandering large range help a lot
Since uh
Healing low priority

does paprika heal herself when she chains
Wandering and therapist go wide, chain has the possibility to go long.
if she gets chained
I sustained Anni 11 with Ange talent 

trying to get chain medic to heal outside of range is real copium
I think only CC3 need a lot of healing
well chain medic module will probably.. probably .. might remove the reudction
Jokes on you I'm into that shit
reduce it maybe
it's -25% healing per bounce iirc
Nah nah
Heal on heal (Warf S1
)
windchimes is yan.. holyy another one to my collection
having an auto skill that gives barriers and isn't mediocre like shining/NG
this is
would be very nice
No
Or is it bait
rocc is 10-6 lol
I wish I could say I won’t farm any and I’ll just do sidestories
But the 5heads at hg
Forgot to include side stories as part of event drops
So now I’m forced to farm something 
Kroos moment
do amiyas hits count as 3 per shot or is it just 1

at M3 it's 8 hits iirc
But why
TC-8 CM would be a pretty challenging stage, if not for modern 6 stars


M1 it becomes 8 hits.
Ok math
Warfarin without skill, mod1 80
Paprika 80 no talent include
Ptilo mod1 no skill 80
Against 1 target
Warfarin 214 hps
Paprika 171 hps (s2 is +70% atk)
Ptilo 147 hps
Against 3 target
Warfarin the same
Paprika 396hps
Ptilo 442
I like how the TC-8 CM mod says more enemies will appear but there ends up being less total enemies in the map 
theres more of the caster dudes
I think kroosalter is the best 5 star anti air sniper
Ptilo s2 m3 is a 3.8× healing modifier
Wait no
2.63×

Wait
It is 3.8×
Math not checking out
In chapter 10 i had Kralter stun cancel all chain caster attacks 
I'm not M3ing ptilo because it makes cycle longer 
s7 works good
i dont even use her to heal anyways
Tc-4 cm for a sec made me feel like I’m playing cc8 again
Jt8-3, need 2 uses to face tank fireballz 
and thats why i use s2
But does NG cycle become worse with M3? 

If you can set up nuke quick
I did pro gamer move and died 78 times instead 
Redeploy NG shoild be faster
A lot faster
Since you only need 20s of her s3 to tank fire balls
Blemi taking 15% reduced damage from both her schwing and her ignite
Was kinda nutty
You can retreag early and skip the 120s cooldown
i did JT8-3 with low brain power
and 3 cages 
Idk
And don't count to kill count 
Wait, can you spawn kill him? Will it reduce enemy count?
time to use my last 2 practice to find out
didn't feel like it today
Gladiia s1m3 is already paying off so hard
It’s just such a fun ability and op to use

gladdia s1 is phys right?
Gladiia S1M3 is shockingly useful tbh.
Phys pull and arts distance pulled
"It's her worst skill, don't mastery it" meanwhile it's my most used one.
Caster lives on like 10 hp at lv60 mod2 
gladiia is such a cool op
yea i agree
Poor man’s lord guard
i wish i can put masteries on her, but im too lazy to bring her sometimes and shes just used as bait since i just use her for module turning her into a tanky self sustain rock instead of damage

i did use her s3 against the boatmen this tc
Don't underestimate "tanky self sustaining rock".
bind 
It's why Beeswax is more popular than Carnelian.
mhm
I checked, he is in fact very first ergate who attacks you later
Idk why would anyone say gladiia s1 is bad
This shit hurt
Not to mention the remaining healthbar is eliminated by module
Pozy S2 does that number thrice 
Shes literally tankier
And cheaper
But hmm
I wonder if she can kill ufo in 2 cycle
Wait
1 cycle
Idk friend flamed me for leveling gladiia like “when did you need her”
Me bringing her to every stage cuz she’s a lord who hurts hard and doesn’t need a healer

Answer is yes
it's not that gladiia S1 is bad
but like
opportunity cost
those materials could be doing thorns/surtr/mudrock/etc. mastery instead
which is why it isn't recommended 
I mean
Well hey that’s why I already have all 3 raised

Also
And she doesnt compete with those
If we're talking "lost opportunity cost" then only like 4-5 ops would have masteries and everyone would be stockpiling for future ops.
Virgin cuck thorns regen only when out of combat
Gigachad gladiia regening at any point in the game

Super early on Gladiia isn't worth it. But she gains value earlier than most people realise.
I mean it's a valid choice after you're comfortable with your team
i mean
Omegachad Kazemaru kills you while dead to return and kill you again
She isnt that tanky lmao

One thing I always hated about putting thorns as a sololaner is that if the enemy throws ranged units and thorns is constantly in combat
He will die by himself
She is tanky until she die
Meanwhile I put gladiia without a healer and she handles the lane and murders it
1.5% of 1600HP 

1545 hp and 297 def with trust at E1L40.
She is tanky enough for that level range.
:lapphone:
that's not durable
not compared to any random E2 guard
good for you?
most vanguard just die
Almost like E1 Gladiia isn't meant to compete with E2 ops.
exactly 
the left side of that map has what
So why are you expecting her to?
crossbows?
doesnt that map have a ufo in the middle
buff dudes
300 base
+10% for each herald
gorilla heralds
oh
courier at least has 300+ def at e1

but then
gladiia can also pull the dude in the middle
so that balance it out
how?
with s2?
no i mean
i'm not sure i understand why that balances it out
relative to what
courier?

lack of defense stat
but provide additional role
which is just
killing herald faster

Ahh this takes me back.
"She is only a puller. Her talent only works on like 8 enemies. She only gets force 2 so none of her skills are worth mastery. 2.5% isn't enough regen. Surviving a patriot spear is nothing."
There is seemingly no middle ground with Gladiia.
she's more than a puller
How do I clear tc 7 with my ops. Can I just freeze the drone dudes with gnosis or do they spawn too fast for that
but e2 gladiia ain't it, chief
don't equate this with anyone saying gladiia isn't good
Yes yes, you're in the Gladiia hater camp. We know.
just uhh
move ur units
and have a healer is what i did
so they dont hit the 20 dp activation thing

Huh what 20 dp
It's incredibly pointless, especially when taken out of context.
u can have like a medic on irene/saria to tank and have surtr
"E1 Gladiia can't compete with E2 guards" like no shit.
the activation thing do u see it
if they break it iirc u leak 1
in the context of E1 units
gladiia still isn't outstanding in durability
because gladiia cant generate dp
Oh ok
Ok? Your point being? she doesn't need to be outstanding. That is Cuoras job. She just needs to be decent enough with some damage and she is worth it.
.
24 hps?
Yeah?
More than max perfumer without skill active.

24 hps doesn't hold up to anything that deals damage
Ehh
especially for an E1 unit with lacking durability
I feel like the hps myrtle has on her passive
Has made her survive a lot more
Than she usually would have
it does
well ye
Also, that 24 hps is E1L40.
Especially in the context of e1
Of course, on an e2 stage she will not survive
But that’s an unfair comparison then
Hopefully you would have pulled someone worth investing in who isn't a welfare by that point.
I mean ppl who have gladiia also kinda have other ops cuz they have been playing for a while
Unless UT has record restoration
How has this chat be arguing about gladiaa for so long
Any idea how to give fw 3 atk
Kinda the point of this chat
Say a hot take and try to defend it 
Aerial units or no
boxer
Also amiya
it's not though
Amiya gives everyone atk def
idk maybe arguing over unit viability falls into theorycrafting
it happens every so often
I mean I think discussing unit viability falls into strategy
should be e2 l60 for gladiia
Help is for general questions
Strategy is for more specific questions regarding gameplay? 
the old theorycrafters all moved on
strategy is for specific stages and how operators would work in said specific stages.
Guard Amiya, not caster Amiya.
technically
i can bring schwarz

actually im curious what module would people go for schwarz nowadays
it's for all of the above 
waiting for 2nd module
i mean
shes pick between a dps competitor with pozy
or an auxiliary
for sniperknight

kind of
not counting the potential crit damage increase
just the module effect increases her damage by 5%
it'll be pretty good
yeah
wait no
80 atk mod1
120 mod3
but ye
modY is more practical
modX is just
buff

ye
you want a redep module for pozy?
if pozy did get another module
no one would use it

since
it will be the shitty one


Which chen
since it gonna upgrade this talent
I mean 70 def ignore, does it apply only for autoattacks or skills to
uh
all
Cuz for skills it’d be pretty pog
thats extremely minimal compare to 10% skill dmg lol
S3 is like 10 hits, no?
you want to ignore 70 def on 320% atk
tbf that is more damage
but like
10% more damage is the other mod
current is ignoring def right
Well, I will mod3 archetto even if the module isn’t anything special
Fire chicken gang

yeah getting 10% more skill damage will be big
even if it's just more def ignore chance it'll be decent
even if minimal gain
also
suzu 2nd module that increase fragile would be nice too
yeah
@lean matrix
more sluggish duration is meh
i did somethi ng like this
but the fragile increase is big
wtf
she has 100% sluggish on skill tho
unless you're coping S2
wrong ping?
LMAOO
@pearl musk this one
I kinda have an op wish, but I hope they give gnosis a module that allows him to apply the 50% fragile on bosses 
loll
it's only 20% off skill tho
i mean
all good dw
suzu S3 doubles talent effect
I wanna use gnosis for more than freezing shit mobs and buffing dmg
thats like
unlike gnosis who gives 50% fragile on any frozen enemy
get suzu
true
and half that for slow i guess
Chilled =/= slow.
Suzuless 
Forced to cope with gnosis fragile
Which doesn’t even work fully vs freeze immune
i think its worth waiting for siege 2nd module too, since its supposed to buff this talent
gnosis is good
I know he is
20% more atk
I just wish there was a way to utilize his 50% fragile against bosses
honestly surprised by how effective gnosis is in cc10
I mean
Supposed to, not guarenteed it will. Fartooth had the same talent buffed twice.
well thats the only exception so far
All they had to do is give manfred “freeze.immune=true”
but then

they can also create another talent
imagine having 3 talents
im forcing
freezing patriot 
shit like this too
instead of boosting the previous effect
they just add a new one
Huh who is this
so who knows
Why is it worded like this
dude
lol
tbf there's not a lot you can do with this
i mean
they cn
like
crossing out the "when skill is active"
for perma dodge ignore
like how they did for gladiia
gladiia mod is ridiculous
guardians getting 15% dr
gladiia getting 30% dr and giving it to all abyssal hunters 
saria 2nd module looks great tbh
well
max mod3 p5 saria has 988 def at max talent stacks
its better if you use her as a tank
i think current mod is a bit weird to use
but eh im keeping it in case meme
her current module is for healing
What’s blemi’s 2nd mod?
Oh
it works great with gavial
blem 2nd will be more healing
this is now officially the most draining arknights run ive done
it gonna buff this talent
and it'll probably buff the sleeping damage talent
i feel so
hey
nervous
world record
sleeping damage has shown up a few times now

im shaking
cc8
cc11
We do have like
the thing with some of these clears
Erato kafka
you'll get it eventually
I believe
there is a confidence that comes
where even if it is precise
if i get it right
im confident its a win
right now
theres so many variables
nothing is set in stone
and i have no confidence
anything will work
but i have to try
Anime "protag fighting villan" music starts to swell.
Sure it will devolve into a half inflated bagpipe, a kazoo and a 40 year old plastic school recorder, but it still counts.
It's only rarty aboose if you give a shit.
I mean that same squad at e2 would probably be able to clear it blindfolded

yea
i mean
we got outpaced
by the 3* clearers who did h8-3
God I dislike tc-7
Not because it’s hard
But the shits take fucking forever to charge up
Horrible mechanic

use mudrock
done
oh ye
gladiia can solo top right
funny
she can out heal them
Ye I did use gladiia lmao
Also the bullies are so fucking tanky wtf
Why does it take almost full poze cycle to kill one

Does sora max level max trust has enough heal to counterheal fiameta self-inflicting damage?
You need like 80-85ish HPS to keep fia above 80% at max lvl
Right, and sora heals only 10% of 380ish, so i guess its not enough 
Which is roughly skalter lv40-50 at m3
So yea
My m3 lv50 skalter keeps her above 80% but slightly
Like 82% or sth
So I doubt sora can compete with that 
Honestly just use ptilopsis or sth

nice
Sigh no more cc can't wait for next season
What's the max risk for cc11 w2
old me: yeah some people making challenge, time to spent hours on it
current me: meh, just clear and sleep

this is what happened if u lose interested lmao
Well it's inevitable
Cover the center with Thorns, Saria, and some dps. Surtr the boss with either a well timed stun from the mechanic thing or just someone to bait while she kills
max risk is like
Wtfart another amigo, I don't remember i did a self split
39 isnt it

now u go kaboom
Who s the boss
Jesselton
Jesselton
ok I am still searching name in aceship
this is how bad I am
That's okay, with Surtr we don't need to know boss mechanics
this man abuse surtr too much
on phase 2
need to stop
he free all prisoner
and they will fuck your team up
in IS2
you dont get any prisoner
so you dont need to worry
Strategic freeing is required
Jesselton the buffer of the normal and elite enemy in prison
but in stroy
he is toiler warlord

ball dudes feel more like bosses than jesse
becaus
released all
So kill him when
I kill jesse the moment he walks into my team
So uh
Half my ranged tiles die after
Caster moment

so have you liked
played the map to figure thing out yourself
before asking here

Do drone casters have modules yet?
Gathering info is important too
I think in cn yes?
you can practical info by playing the stage
Curious as to what goldenglow’s module would be


I just go check aceship
but spoonfeeding everytime is
no

gg no module
I want more explosion tbh
thats just absurdly broken
Let a man dream
nah i rather easier explosion on gg
so later I cope with s2
oh ye
i still trying to get her
rip
Strategy is more meant to help after the person has tried the stage and failed a few times by himself and can’t figure it out
like
Dswopey you said that like you don't spam images about your operators aka flex 
in order for us to give advice
I mean
I do kinda use this channel for general chatter too
Cuz uh
I’d rather not open #arknights ever again

But I more try to do it when the chat is dead
Me too

Think of #arknights as a typical social media platform crunched into one channel
tea apple sauce is bad op ye
ng wins

No but like I’d understand if the arguments used were
Reasonable
But the core arguments were
“Nobody can rely on her sp regen” and “if you need healing you just lack damage”


Btw amigo
Do you just not recruit if you don’t have a 4* or 5* tag combo?
And wait for refresh?
oh man
imagine people check aceship everytime they doing recruitment
@shell arch
You have been mentioning me like 5 times. I always asked what's up, you never replied
I'm this 🤏 to click the block button
I only check web if I see an unusual tag combo
If it’s like
Caster supporter melee guard defense
Yeah. Lategame moment. I have enough greenies for next month greenies monthly shop 
How many
actually true lmao
I usually wait for office. Now i have 200 recs
Edited 
3.5k. I'll do recs if there are no good banners next month
Ok...
Oh so you just farm greens from banner
Pretty sure there is
Wtfart don't sphechulez 
Huh braziled for what 
Guard defense astesia 
rule 5 apply to all help section channel
I forgot which mod told me lmao
Huh, no melantha?

Oofie is the mod you're talking about

Ya but like
But ye oofie asked the mods for all of us
CN content isn’t datamined
Mel don't have def tag
So knowing mlynar, sexas etc. isn’t
Oh mel is survival
Oops
Why is melantha survival even
Cuz dreadnaught?
Knowing mylnar spexas coming don't break any rules
Saying mylnar spexas coming possibly in next month does
Can someone explain to me what does it mean when a guide says Mastery *Breakpoint?
actually no
Severe gains compared to the rest
@pearl gate it mean the gain is major
For example blemishine S1M1 makes her SP cost 5>4
It gains a great effect/new skill effect that 100% worth it to do mastery
same with mudrock S2M1
Dswopey no one s1m1 blemi 
Uhhh
yes
But yeah you're right 
And then M3 has 4sc of levitate iirc
My blemi only S2M2 
cringe than s1m1 I would say

Look S1 = M1
S2 = M2
Thus I should S3M3

Module makes it much better cycle
Last time it was GA
Not yet

I did mod2 m6
LMD 
I can tell you this
u do it then I might consider
Don't. 
Mod 3 M3?
There's other prio
I’d say if you use it or waifu or sth, just do it
I did s1m3 fia but never used it
Meanwhile rushed s1m3 gladiia and throw her everywhere I can
Goes hard


actual fun fact
But you can do some whack shit with it otherwise
e2 lvl 1 s2m3 rn
Maybe in old content
Make a hard buff debuff comp
And s3m3 overbuff chen for something
And commit vergil
so true
im sitting at i think m7 chen
I got lazy on her s1 since i was m3ing random 5 stars at the time
😊
Ew no
At least I used every ability on my M9 chetto lol
I wish fia’s S1 was something actually useful

I have like 170+34 mod upgrade mats
As well as 46 blocks
Without completing SSS
Which skill had more practical use on her?
Uhh
I do it for the funny blue woman
I use S1 and S3 the most
S2 is better for some cases than S1
But S1 allows for afk gameplay
S3 for multitarget exu
S2 for the most unique sniper skill
S1 for afknights
I personally never require to use her s2. S1 is fine at sl7
Lmfao
jp alt
ty
Wait only 20k lmd from event store
or to 1 person

One person
Send it to your nemesis
Because yes
What level would mountain be able to handle lanes at by himself?
Would like 40 be enough?
what lane
Just generally
mine is at 70

Hey, my main squad is currently running Blue Poison as my primary AA Sniper, but i know there are some maps that want 2 AA Snipers








