strategy

[turbid badge]

no?

lul

but more some wierd reason sometimes cannon does target him when alot of enemies come probably since theyre heavier

and he can occasionally get 3 block

[glass monolith]

Yato on left blocks slime

[frigid kite]

Damn how did you figured it was her

I can see shit

[elder flume]

i dont get the discussion

[frigid kite]

Hmmm

[glass monolith]

I just assumed you repeat same shit those guys above doing

[proud drift]

Left has a slime

That’s why

[frigid kite]

Do you need help with any stage?

[proud drift]

I deployed yato way before shot

And it was still locked on lee

But I think

[elder flume]

a slime was on u

[proud drift]

I like the kafka idea

[elder flume]

plus lee taunts so he gets prio

[turbid badge]

no?

the taunt doesnt work

[proud drift]

Lee is 2 blcok with slime I know

[elder flume]

taunt works

[proud drift]

But why does yato not take cannon then

[turbid badge]

really?

[proud drift]

Taunt does work

If yato doesn’t get cannon

[elder flume]

its just that

[proud drift]

Despite being later deployed 2block

[glass monolith]

Left is 3 block Lee is 2 block currently because both have +1 slime

[elder flume]

nah im just seeing strats

[turbid badge]

Ohh

[proud drift]

I’ll do the kafka strat tho

[turbid badge]

ah

[proud drift]

Kafka on lee before cannon is smart

[turbid badge]

ic

[glass monolith]

Totally not just looking Shoyuu clears

[proud drift]

Someone said kafka here

Oh you did

[frigid kite]

Pretty smart kafka

[proud drift]

Wait

Why am I even doing this complicated shit

Kaltsit go

Monter doesn’t have double cost

[sharp mango]

[frigid kite]

Lol

[proud drift]

Uh

Oops

I shouldn’t hesitate on surtr skill huh

The big reborns are too heavy for push

[frigid kite]

Is time for normal texas to shine

[proud drift]

Nah

I brought red and remembered she’s also 4 tiles stun like kafka

And not 8 around her

[frigid kite]

Stun removes block too?

[proud drift]

Does it?

[turbid badge]

yea

[proud drift]

Either way

I just shouldn’t hesitate on srutr

Lmfao

[turbid badge]

i just gave lee exu Buff and hes hp is 3.2k

[proud drift]

Hmm

3 big reborns

Kinda hurt Lee huh

A single kaltsit wasn’t enough to heal him

[turbid badge]

really?

they got Nuked for me

[proud drift]

Well

[proud drift]

My issue was

There were 2 cars

AND

I spawned them at the same time

[turbid badge]

mhm

yeah i see them right now

but doesnt lee just push most of them

[proud drift]

Lee doesn’t push the big reborns

Too fat

[turbid badge]

Yea its a slight push tho

[frigid kite]

Too much meat for 1 fish

[proud drift]

I could’ve also placed fiammetta 50 years ago and archetto

And then spam S2

To nuke it lol

[turbid badge]

yeahh

[glass monolith]

I hate 10-16 for being so cringe and love it for being only stage where i can justify usage of my Indigo which i just have built as surprise tool to help me later

[proud drift]

Can you silence leeches btw?

[glass monolith]

even if you can they come in packs of 2-4 often so

[proud drift]

Well

Grilled leeches it is then

[glass monolith]

Not to mention only 2.5 maps have them

[proud drift]

By yours truly angry fire chicken

[glass monolith]

It is so funny than hard mode of boss stage removes actual hard enemy

[proud drift]

You know I’m reading story and

Manfred pissed his pants 24/7

Go into story and look at his lower half, the shadow from his hand on sword handle makes it look like he wet himself

[glass monolith]

Chapter 9 manticore Mandra story is lmao

Spoiler to post boss story scene
||Mandra: Phase 2||
||Horn: Ok, she flying now||
||Bagpipe: Throw me up to her||

[molten swan]

manticore????

[proud drift]

I was questioning same thing in my head

Thinking if there was manticore anywhere

[glass monolith]

Mandracore

or whatever

[proud drift]

Mandragora

Just call her mandy

[glass monolith]

Bad mouthed cat (and probably woman)

[proud drift]

Buenos dias mandy

Wdym “probably”

Mandra IS a catgirl

[glass monolith]

I don't trust this game to make genders clearly obvious

Like in my childhood fairy tails were biased toward wolf-boy so when i find out projecKRed is girl which i couldn't guess without E2 art or skin because looks flat i instantly assumed wrong gender

[fresh copper]

When in doubt

Their gender is Conviction

[glass monolith]

What if Sora's race is Conviction

[proud drift]

Minus

That’s why you use sounds

[glass monolith]

I came from dark gachas where females are forced to voice male characters

[frigid kite]

Do you guys know what might be next on announce, Pozy's skin or 6*, i'm really interested on her kit

[glass monolith]

I.... already forgot there is 6*, i died laughing to reverse Tequila Crusher who is somehow female Matterhorn

[radiant plinth]

frick

[frigid kite]

Another Lord guard, probably good I hope

[glass monolith]

Please be bad i need to save pulls for potential Spalter spark

Actually i have no actual plan at pulls since i got pozyomka, outside of repeating 111 Fia accident on Stainless

[proud drift]

Please be talulah

[full finch]

crusher guard with a defensive skill

[glass monolith]

Wait her S2 is defensive recovery?

We have fucking design of the year ladies and gentelmens

[full finch]

no, it's a defensive skill
she stops attacking and gains shelter

[glass monolith]

This is why i said reverse Tequila, stops attacking and blocks

[livid delta]

And doesn't hit air

She's a fucking wind element user

[glass monolith]

And let's be honest it is just powercreep of Savage

[full finch]

and the funniest part
she has vigor
with a skill that doesn't deal damage until the end of its duration

[glass monolith]

Uh it is turn off on will skill

[livid delta]

Minoan
has vigor
pallas who?

[coral haven]

Skill issue

[full finch]

but the idea
of having a vigor HP gate
for a defensive skill that's obviously for taking damage

kills me

[glass monolith]

It is not defensive skill, she build up attack to do burst which is poor copy pasta of Savage S2 skill

[full finch]

it reduces incoming damage
so it's a defensive skill

if it wasn't defensive it would just make her 0 block or something

[glass monolith]

it is effect nobody will care about

Build up of attack and totally savage S2 burst when you finish skill or when it runs out

[full finch]

ig we'll see how she does in CN

wait is she minos or forte

[glass monolith]

Spoiler alert she doesnt

[proud drift]

Does any ch10 node have degen drones enter gates if you don’t nuke them?

[full finch]

they always died naturally for me

though they were in range of a unit at some points

[proud drift]

Oh I just did 10-14 and placed monter in range of both pre-spawned

[full finch]

they give SP to cannon

[proud drift]

But I also got lucky that the three nukes that hit monter all hit drones

So I wondered if they would just enter gates if not hit

Seeing as they had the idea to make invisible drones

One day we really will get invisible wraiths

[full finch]

scene

[random light]

if mylnar in EN server. i wonder if its possible to do E0 gameplay with him

or any liberator archtype E0

[full finch]

liberators are a strong archetype so they're pretty good at E0

like spreadshooters

E0 mlynar has 261 atk (286 p4)

[latent halo]

I never saw cobra using e0 mlynar

[full finch]

S1r4 is 145% atk

teq is 247 atk
S1r4 is 135% atk and +20 ASPD

for E0 that's pretty good in terms of phys damage

though arts always wins because defense

[latent halo]

Ifirt

-20% res on e0

[tame schooner]

Does H3-8 mephisto have increased gas damage?

[full finch]

yeah

lemme double check

[tame schooner]

Oh if that ain’t a pain in the ass

[proud drift]

If his fart scales from his atk then yes

Cause he will naturally have more atk

In H

[full finch]

60% more

[tame schooner]

Fantastic

Thank you

[proud drift]

So that’s why he farted so hard when I activated 5 bursts on him on his P2 in h8-3

Why is it always so vague

[full finch]

how are you going to explain how it changes in that tiny space

[proud drift]

Good question

Just change the cannon text instead

[tame schooner]

Usually it just means that there’s the upgraded versions of the enemy’s that were there before

[proud drift]

“Every so often highest block operator gets blasted”

Oh wait

It actually changes the map in preview wtf

I underestimated hg

[storm current]

Theres also map like 10-17

Where most people dont know the normal layout look like

[proud drift]

That map looks like a complete pain in the ass

[storm current]

Adverse or normal?

[proud drift]

But at the same time maybe fine

Adverse

[storm current]

Since for adverse its quite simple

Ifrit mudrock left lane

Healing thorns right lane

Thats it

[proud drift]

Ifrit? That’s a weird way to spell fiammetta

[storm current]

Mudrock will eat the nuke

[proud drift]

[storm current]

Well both work but

I dont have fiametta

[proud drift]

Do I do s3 mudrock memes

[storm current]

Also you need medic for fiametta

[proud drift]

Or S2 fine

[storm current]

No

S2

A lot of fast attacking enemies

Also

Necrosis

[proud drift]

Necrosis

Right

No ranged enemies on top besides drones?

[storm current]

What map

10-19?

[proud drift]

15

[storm current]

A lot of enemies iirc

[proud drift]

Oof

[storm current]

Drone fly around on left side

Easy strat is just

Medic up

[proud drift]

Well hopefully kaltsit doesn’t die

[storm current]

Since most were just

Slug and chain caster iirc

[proud drift]

Ok nvm honeyberry for fiammetta ig

[storm current]

You prob dont need honeyberry

If your tank has high hp at least

[proud drift]

But chain casters

I was planning to slap blemi next to thorns

[storm current]

You can position your defender so that they dont chain onto your medic

[proud drift]

Ya but

Well w/e I’ll start stage

And see what happens

[proud drift]

10-15 is giving me the mald dosage that I missed

But I think I’m overthinking the stage

Yep I was totally overthinking

Skalter S3 is just way too good for this

[proud drift]

Oh and there were no chain casters

[fresh copper]

Wait 10-15 was supposed to be the hard stage?

[proud drift]

Only cars and 50 drones that oneshot both fia and honey

[storm current]

must have misremembered

[proud drift]

Well

It wasn’t hard

[fresh copper]

I thought that was supposed to be the Manfred stages

[proud drift]

I just made it hard

[storm current]

10-17 is manfred

[fresh copper]

Ah that makes sense

[proud drift]

I keep forgetting that

The slimes and reborns

Have 90% damage reduction

So I keep trying to bruteforce

When I can just start a song

And they all die of ligma

[fresh copper]

Ligma ba-

[proud drift]

Btw lolicon

Cringe s2 bagpipe user

Not chad s3

[limpid siren]

Bag s2 is kinda based

[limpid siren]

L take

[proud drift]

Wtf manfred map is so small

[tame schooner]

Mephisto farts go away when he dies right?

[proud drift]

Ye

[tame schooner]

Dps racing the bird

[turbid badge]

of course yea

[cyan gorge]

Me, a Bag S2 enjoyer

[pearl musk]

The fastest way to clear 4-4 how

The stage to get kohl

[proud drift]

Can anyone tell me manfred’s path in 10-17

The game refuses to let me know

Mans really just joined a server to drop datamine with no source or reliability

[pearl musk]

Lots of holes to push and pull into

[proud drift]

@storm current do you remember manfred path in 10-17

[storm current]

show map

[proud drift]

I die before seeing his path cause I’m too focused on looking for red lines

So I can’t plan where to drop shit

[proud drift]

Oh ok

Ty

Wholesome HG giving hatedrinkers on the same path

[foggy wave]

did he have stop spot?

[storm current]

i wonder if you just

check review

[foggy wave]

i want o make 1 p relay

[foggy wave]

ok

[storm current]

if it show the pathing

like other boss

[foggy wave]

thx

[proud drift]

So peaceful

Mans just standing still while my deployments recover from a misfire

[turbid badge]

oh

[proud drift]

Ok pog

10-17 adv done

2nd part was legit easier than 1st

[turbid badge]

break the ice

[proud drift]

Oh ye I’ll be the snitch and @desert siren

Datamined content is not cool when you don’t care about it

If it’s even true anyways

[turbid badge]

breeze module seems fun

[limpid siren]

The +1 range is nice ye

[proud drift]

Time to mald H10

[turbid badge]

i was talking more about the max hp+ for medic and supporter when her skills up

[limpid siren]

Almost always zero impact

[turbid badge]

yeah true but its a cool little add on to her talent

[limpid siren]

Definitely better than some mod ups

[proud drift]

+2 SP for every kazimier deployed

xdd

[cyan gorge]

If only Kaze's mod 3 wasn't ass

[near folio]

Mandragora is the most unfair boss in AK

[proud drift]

Ehh

Mandragora is pretty ok

Actually one of the more interesting bossfights

[vernal lion]

still better than H10-3

[proud drift]

Oh yea

Once I finish reading story

I’ll get to taste h10-1 to 3

10-17 was easy

Skalter is extremely clutch to have for ch10

[vernal lion]

I was trying to do a challenge in H10-3

[proud drift]

If h10-3 layout and boss walking pattern allows me

[turbid badge]

manfred b manfred

lul

[proud drift]

I’m gonna cook up a very funny strat

[turbid badge]

atleast fia is pretty decent in h10-3

[proud drift]

On how to deal with his reborns farting

Take nightingale and another healer, place someone to tank manfred, preferably a 1block so other shit can walk thru

And make him perma-charge cannon

And just keep nuking the spawns

[vernal lion]

not using op with HP higher than 3k and has invincible skills

[last prawn]

for IS2, do u guys prioritize non-combat or combat encounter ?

[turbid badge]

depends, emergency combat encounters are usually always a pick tho

[last prawn]

emergency is the one with the warning with increase difficulty right?

[turbid badge]

yea

[last prawn]

ah ok ok

[cosmic dagger]

always combat

always emergency

if you dont fight you lose later

might as well fight and lose now or win later

[last prawn]

[vernal lion]

sometime encounter is a combat too

[near folio]

Guardmiya and specter cant kill Manfred fast enough

Can this beat 10-17 hard?

[proud drift]

Borrow ntr or kaltsit

I had ntr and kaltsit kill fred lane

The rest got skaltered

Oh ya I did have fia for the pre-fred hatedrinkers

Your only trouble would be manfred phase2 waves

He spawns SO many big reborns

That I’d unironically recommend, if possible, attempt a p2 fred stall

And have him rapidly hitting a low block target

So you can spam cannon on the top left red boxes

Unless you can handle like 20 consecutive spawns of these

Liskarm+warfarin S1+2nd healer might be able to stall fred p2

[near folio]

Wtf there are two waves of those bladed fkers who walk down manfred's lane in H10-17

[proud drift]

If fred machineguns liskarm

[near folio]

Specter can only hold one

[proud drift]

Liskarm feeds warf s1

[near folio]

Maybe skadi the other one

[proud drift]

Honestly

You know what you could do

Borrow skalter s3

[near folio]

Nah im not borrowing

[proud drift]

Why not

Is challenge

[near folio]

Im gonna beat this stupid stage with my comp

[proud drift]

Bruh

[near folio]

I almost got phase 2 down

Its just the two waves of normal mobs that walk down manfred path that is the problem

[proud drift]

I wish you could just horn them or sth

But you need horny for other lane

[near folio]

Im using horn as bomb bait on top left

For the big reborns

[tidal sedge]

Who is tanking MAN?

[proud drift]

Liskarm preferably

Liskarm + warf s1 next to her

[tidal sedge]

Hmm. A 3 block

[proud drift]

Is peak funny

[near folio]

Top left is always gonna get bombed

[proud drift]

Machinegun warfarin food

[near folio]

Manfred lane is safe until 49/50

[tidal sedge]

Could use Heidi to drop her block count?

[near folio]

As I said

[proud drift]

Manfred walks thru then

[tidal sedge]

Ah, I see

[near folio]

Top left always get bombed first because of the reborns

Then when manfred bombs himself I will just drop skadi and finish the job

[proud drift]

Did you get to 49/50?

[near folio]

No

[proud drift]

Whats ur furthest

[near folio]

I didnt realise I could liskarm warf

I stopped at 39/50

[proud drift]

Ah so p2

Nice then

[near folio]

Because of the mobs that come down manfred's lane

[proud drift]

Liskarm warf imo should make man not a threat

Free battery for cannon

But idk if warfarin alone is enough to heal thru it

[full marlin]

Took me 3 retried runs to beat SSS LT-4, the one that spams defense crushers.
All it took was roided ntrk having 6500 atk with s1 active, minigun ceobe, and surtr splooging down the lane, at the same time
Surely it only gets easier from now on, right?

[near folio]

@proud drift damn dude Lisk Warf worked

It lasted long enough to finish the stage

[proud drift]

Really makes me wanna raise liskarm too ngl

Just for memes like this

[near folio]

Still needs sussuro healing to survive his late stacks

But can last till 49/50 for skadi to come back

[tidal sedge]

Question, just how thick Saria's HP that she somehow managed to survive the buffed missile twice

[near folio]

I think Skadi can eat an artillery shot

I think the cannon does 3k true damage

Estimated

[tidal sedge]

My Saria still lv40

But how on earth she survive that

That missile could have killed her

[foggy grove]

which missile is this
e2 40 saria doesn't even reach 3k hp

buffed missile is 4k true

[full marlin]

E260 or 70 has above 3k iirc

[near folio]

Did u have skalter damage sharing?

[tidal sedge]

I don't have Skalter

[ebon oxide]

YAAAAAATTTTTTTTTTTAAAAAAAAAAA

[cursive wedge]

saria lvl 70 has only 2952 hp

mod 1 give extra 150 hp

[near folio]

https://youtu.be/EYv_ObExZ8I

It's done!

What a fun boss stage

[near folio]

I've heard some people say normal 10-17 is harder than AE

[vernal lion]

nice, stalling begins

[near folio]

Im still thinking of a 3 6 stars combination to take on H10-3

Currently trying out Weedy, Kal and SA

no success yet

Cant stall Manfred

Chapter 10 mobs are cancer

[vernal lion]

Clear H10-3 with 3 stars using operator/summon without getting HP higher than 3000 and no invincible skill/trait allows

challenge for those whos are interesting in

[proud drift]

that's basically similar to what I'd want to try lmfao

have a preferably single block tank machinegun manfred while being healed quite heavily

and dropping random fodder for cannons elsewhere

[near folio]

Trying to clear H10-3 with this

I cant even get the bomb on manfred even once

[proud drift]

@near folio nice liskarm cannon incident

[vernal lion]

yep very close there

DP issue

[proud drift]

s1 aak

permastun boss

[tidal sedge]

by "invincible" do you mean only actual invincibility or also including hp locks/shields/damage blocks etc.

[near folio]

Only the first wave of H10-3 has necrosis damage?

[proud drift]

I'm guessing basically anything that allows you to survive the cannon

basically

no living cannon

[near folio]

If thats the case then elemental medics are not needed

[vernal lion]

yes, anything that can make them "survive" on edge is not allowed

[tidal sedge]

shining s2 banned?

[sly pivot]

hung module can live

🙏

[tidal sedge]

oh yeah you can just gavialter s3

ez

[vernal lion]

I use s1

still I think I got DP issue for stalling boss

[tidal sedge]

so damage resistance allowed?

[vernal lion]

it allows

[proud drift]

tfw my 2.9k hp blemishine technically survives the cannon

cuz module makes cannon do 2550 instead of 3000

[turbid badge]

yeah

[vernal lion]

I mean, 15% damage reduction is pretty good

[turbid badge]

she can still survive tho w/o mod

[proud drift]

15

[tidal sedge]

my blem is too good, 3.3k hp banned

[proud drift]

shouldn't have leveled her over 60

[sly pivot]

my hung is too strong wtf

[proud drift]

[sly pivot]

hes just 3k hp

smh

[turbid badge]

if anything is almost 3k and sitting at like 2.8k just slap a exu buff

[proud drift]

that makes it over 3k hp

[tidal sedge]

are self hp buffs not allowed either then if it puts them over 3k

[proud drift]

I'd say no

cause then you could just skadig

[tidal sedge]

my shalem is too good anyway, 3090 hp very sad

[proud drift]

oh actually

skadi is a dread

so she already has like

5000 hp or some shit

[near folio]

3.5k hp at lvl 60

No module

[proud drift]

fuckin hell dreadnaught class

[turbid badge]

lmao

unless ur skadi is low lvl

[near folio]

Nice to see dreadnought being good again

Excluding nearlalter

She is a different case

[proud drift]

I can't explain how surprised I was when I was doing a random r18 run in this cc that popped into my head

I accidentally fucked up my cannon baiting

cause I kept forgetting ntr sun

[near folio]

I used yt guide for this cc

[proud drift]

so first time I dropped the sun on hatedrinkers

and cannon hits it

[near folio]

It required too much brain use

[proud drift]

and I'm like

why ntr alive

[tidal sedge]

sharp was the good dreadnought long before ntrk

[turbid badge]

so tru

[proud drift]

not r18 run fuck

[long parrot]

when doing previous event maps, do they still have the same drop rates?

[proud drift]

was challenge 6

[near folio]

H10-3 was the first time I saw Kyo angry

Because people were complaining about him using 3 6 stars

[vernal lion]

especially Mudrock

[near folio]

Im still trying to figure out my own 3 6 star strat

[proud drift]

tbh

[near folio]

No Ling, no surtr no chalter

[proud drift]

I can't blame the people

the guy who does low end clears by using 1 6* for 99% of the content

suddenly slapping 3 leveled 6*

and calling it "low end"

kinda...

like I looked at his mandragora h9-6 low end and I'm like

[near folio]

Is H10-3 unwinnable without true dmg?

[proud drift]

"wtf I have neither of these and I need both "

[turbid badge]

what was it?

[proud drift]

chalter silverash

[near folio]

I see he regens his shield faster

[turbid badge]

idk look at billbili

[tidal sedge]

idk if there is such a thing as "low end" h10-3 tbh

[vernal lion]

I have to admit one thing that H10-3 from 2nd wave and later are rushing as heck

so you don't think about 1 6 star clear with low end

it's a challenge stage after all

[near folio]

Even Kyo's "Low End" guide on NL EX 8 CM without abusing Shaw used both Chalter and Kaltsit

[proud drift]

Make a tankbot for manfred, have the op get minigunned by manfred

Commence map bombardment

[vernal lion]

stupid fucking AOE DOT dmg

[tidal sedge]

there's e1 1 clear but it's 13 ops and most of them are 6*

[near folio]

I have a weird idea

[tidal sedge]

smh my head

[near folio]

What do you guys think about Rosmontis's viability on H10-3?

[turbid badge]

i used her shes pretty alright

[near folio]

Im just kinda scared she will mess up the cannon targeting

[turbid badge]

[tidal sedge]

wait naga does your challenge ban dollkeepers

[vernal lion]

nope

[proud drift]

Lmao spalter gaming

[turbid badge]

almost all h10-3 clears i see have kal

[near folio]

Manfred regens his shield faster there

So you can only reliably kill him with true dmg

[turbid badge]

yea

[proud drift]

Since I have m3 lv50 kal

[turbid badge]

ah,

[near folio]

Also Guardmiya S2 is so trash

[proud drift]

I guess I’ll borrow ntr

[turbid badge]

i was about to say

[proud drift]

[turbid badge]

this one didnt have true damage

but than i saw cliffheart s2

[proud drift]

Everyone has cliffheart

[tidal sedge]

there's ling s3 + skalter s1 duo

[proud drift]

Cuz she’s a free unit

[turbid badge]

yea

[near folio]

How do you kill the big bladed guys in H10-3?

They are so jacked up esp with the amount of reborns on the screen

And Weedy push barely scratches them

[proud drift]

Btw

[turbid badge]

idk i just eyjad them

[proud drift]

What’s the fia tile

In h10-3

[tidal sedge]

yeah arts for sword guys

maybe you can chalter them idk I don't use her

[near folio]

Maybe rosmontis can kill them

[tidal sedge]

probably not

[sly pivot]

silverash kills

for free

[near folio]

Manfred cant be slept right?

[sly pivot]

mizuki s3 does too

i know cause ive been malding a clear

[proud drift]

Think he can

[sly pivot]

that i cba to do

[turbid badge]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1RW4y137Yb/?spm_id_from=333.337.search-card.all.click this clear doesnt use true damage

[proud drift]

He can get stunned at least

And frozen

[tidal sedge]

actually rosmontis s1 might kill them

[proud drift]

Wait how big is the aoe dot range?

[near folio]

I fell like people would have tried infinite stalling him with Blemi if that was the case

[turbid badge]

nah he cant be slept

[proud drift]

But gnosis s1 permastalls him

No?

[turbid badge]

I tried to sleep him with Erato before

[sly pivot]

its like 0.6 radius

[proud drift]

Ok hear me out

[vernal lion]

1.25 tile, so it's 1 tile long from your op and them

[proud drift]

Gnosis S2

[sly pivot]

no way its a tile long

[tidal sedge]

oh wait they have way less def then I thought

[proud drift]

Actually viable

[sly pivot]

well a tile in diameter

[near folio]

Gnosis S2 doesnt last long enough

[proud drift]

Stack up the shits, have a good aoe

Press gnosis S2, press the aoe

50% fragile

[near folio]

Manfred's aspd only resets when he stops attacking for 6s

[proud drift]

[sly pivot]

or you can just cannon

why bother trying to burst the slugs

[proud drift]

S2 wasn’t for fred

[scarlet ledge]

dwwopey

doing h stage?

[proud drift]

No

Doing bed stage

[scarlet ledge]

😳

hot

[tidal sedge]

just use blitz s2 for guaranteed stack reset

[proud drift]

It’s 9am and I need to sleep, got another night shift

[vernal lion]

dot dmg is like 120 per second

[proud drift]

Need to prepare myself for H10 mald

[vernal lion]

remind me of those long-range caster from IC

[proud drift]

Btw @turbid badge

Where fia tile

There’s 110 mobs so I cba playing stage 10 times to figure out where goes what

[turbid badge]

for s3?

[proud drift]

Any skill

[near folio]

Mudrock can stack reset too

[proud drift]

I have m9

[vernal lion]

Fia is suitable for right side

[near folio]

But long cd

[turbid badge]

idunno

lemme see

[proud drift]

S2 has more dps if I archetto

[vernal lion]

left side, enemies with aoe dot dmg are gonna kill her sooner or later

[proud drift]

So right side is p1 and left side is p2?

[sly pivot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586589438411407369/1070903869036580864/Screen_Recording_20230203_021708_Arknights_1.mp4

h10 3 solution

[turbid badge]

wow mizuki

[proud drift]

Lol jk

P2 also right side

[sly pivot]

😎

[proud drift]

Oh no wait

That’s p1

Bruh

The aura is in p1 too??

[near folio]

Yes

[sly pivot]

isnt that shit both phase

[near folio]

The aura is there as long as Manfred exists on the field

[vernal lion]

the aura is in both phases tho

[proud drift]

Crinnge

[vernal lion]

it's MAN ability

[latent halo]

Khant is spreading his jelly juice now

Infecting more ppl to use miz

[sly pivot]

do not be afraid

[proud drift]

And ppl saying mandragora is pain

[turbid badge]

miz s2 my favroite

[proud drift]

When that shit exists

[sly pivot]

s3 better

[near folio]

As a boss Mandragora is the objectively the hardest

[proud drift]

Idk

The hardest thing about mandragora

Are the waves

Overall mandragora imo is, well

She’s difficult

But she’s also a nice boss

I think she’s well-designed

[near folio]

Nah Mandragora's boss design feels like gatekeeping

[proud drift]

How come

[near folio]

A barrier that greatly reduces both phys and arts

Laser that does very high melting dmg

[proud drift]

Yeah but you can infinitely stall her p1

[vernal lion]

Mandra is annoying about her p2 that turns her into a helicopter

[near folio]

Flying in phase 2

[proud drift]

And that’s not a bad thing

It forces the player to actually use stage mechanics

Commonly known as pillars

[near folio]

In H9-6???

[proud drift]

Ye?

I used a pillar

[near folio]

9-20 maybe u can use the pillars

[proud drift]

I also infinitely stalled her p1

With blemi ptilo kaltsit

[near folio]

But in H9-6 using pillars on mandra is almost like a dream

[proud drift]

Nah

She has basically 3 moments where you can easily drop a pillar on her

[near folio]

And you have to actually have enough dps to kill mandra on the short duration she is vulnerable when you dropped the pillar on her

[proud drift]

She stops above bottom right pillar

[near folio]

That requires you to stall p1 and tank the fireballs at the same time

If you want to use that pillar

[proud drift]

The fireballs can be blocked by sm1 else

A raised gummy can tank them p.sure

[vernal lion]

wait, how about H9-6 without pillar drop?

[near folio]

2 amiya S3s

[vernal lion]

cringe

[near folio]

Or Pozy

[proud drift]

Well I did rarity abuse so I surtr’d the fireball

To allow me the p1 stall

[scarlet ledge]

mountain

[near folio]

Im trying to beat H9-6 only using SA and Ifrit as my 6 stars

[proud drift]

Yea I’m not into that stuff

But you can make her drop pillar on herself

And, well, in kyo’s strat you have 2 available pillars to drop

[turbid badge]

here fia tile

or u can face her up

[proud drift]

[near folio]

I wonder how 10-17 AE compares to JT8-3

[vernal lion]

why not deploy 3 block near to MAN so the cannon can hit him?

Lee s3 has taunt tho

[proud drift]

Wait

Is Lee minigunned by MAN

[near folio]

Lee could probably survive Manfred's minigun right?

[proud drift]

Imagine lowrolling dodged and lee just fuckin dies randomly

[pearl musk]

Can I replace chalter with pozy in today's cc?

[proud drift]

[near folio]

He gets a pretty good defense boost when skill is up

[proud drift]

Except fred does arts damage mostly

[near folio]

In P2 his physical hurts more

[vernal lion]

70% phys and arts dodge in s3m3

[proud drift]

False actually

Physical gets reduced by def

Arts does not

[near folio]

As long as Lee has no problems tanking p1

Even gummy can do that with 2 healers

[sly pivot]

true actually arts get reduced by resistance physical does not

[proud drift]

In P2 he does 100% physical AND 60% arts

In p1 only 60% arts

Afaik

[near folio]

His Physical is gonna hurt more, remember he has boss level atk stat

[proud drift]

Yeah

And your defender has

700 def

And 0 res

[near folio]

700 def isnt that much to manfred

[limpid siren]

use liskarm then

[sly pivot]

average ng less cuck

[scarlet ledge]

oh u mean that noir solve that

[sly pivot]

🤣

[proud drift]

So 1000 atk becomes 300 atk for physical

And 600 arts stays 600 arts

[scarlet ledge]

[proud drift]

Idk his actual atk tho

But it’s probably not that high

[near folio]

Its def more than 1000

[proud drift]

Since his gimmick is fast hit

[near folio]

Maybe around 1500

He can two shot Specter in P2

[turbid badge]

watt

normal specter?

[vernal lion]

yes

[proud drift]

Yea cuz he still does arts damage

[near folio]

Normal specter

[proud drift]

Not only physical

[sly pivot]

have you heard of arknemy

[tidal sedge]

1200 base atk

[near folio]

To be fair specter defense isnt that high

[sly pivot]

its a wonderful website that allows you to see the stats and skills of an enemy

https://arknemy.github.io/enemy/

[turbid badge]

her alter is tankier than her ;omegalul

[proud drift]

I’ve heard of this wonderful furniture called bed

I’m too tired for this

[turbid badge]

oki gn

[near folio]

Physical defenders still gonna be the best candidate to tank manfred

[tidal sedge]

just use croissant ez

[turbid badge]

bltiz

[near folio]

Does Blitz S2 only hit blocked enemies?

[vernal lion]

yea

[near folio]

Sad, can't park him behind liskarm

[vernal lion]

only activate when blocked too

[scarlet ledge]

my alt clear on h9-6

[near folio]

Im lowkey thinking of skipping everything for stainless

[scarlet ledge]

stainless s1 good

only redeeming skill

[latent halo]

[sly pivot]

even i dont cope this much

[tidal sedge]

looking through h10-3 clears and thinking maybe I should s2m3 croissant finally

turns out defensive recovery is no longer bad when you have like 8 enemies hitting you at once

[sly pivot]

the auras proc defensive recovery

fyi

[near folio]

The problem with me getting mlynar is that I will feel too guilty when I use him

[tidal sedge]

I won't

[scarlet ledge]

its ok

[tidal sedge]

unlike chalter he's cool

[scarlet ledge]

use gummy instead

much better

[turbid badge]

if i do pull him hes a good base helper

[scarlet ledge]

just get stun proc every hit

[turbid badge]

lul

[near folio]

Gummy permastun manfred ez

[turbid badge]

just need rng amiright

[tidal sedge]

just chen + bibeak + lisk permastun

actually maybe just chen + lisk can perma if you stack enough slugs

or bibeak if you want arthritis

[latent monolith]

Iirc lee NG alone can tank manfred P1 easily if he stops outside lee range

[merry birch]

please...... hel[p-

[frosty spade]

Metatsu?

[merry birch]

:O

[frosty spade]

Uhhhh

Sup

[merry birch]

yeahhhh

[frosty spade]

This is weird

[merry birch]

must be weird to see me not be so down bad for Mountain

[frosty spade]

And me not being down bad for Dusk....

[merry birch]

but fr I need help with Bagpipu Paradox Simulation cause god guides doesnt work...

[molten swan]

tf

[merry birch]

[frosty spade]

Don't worry, we just know each other from a different server

[merry birch]

yeah

[frosty spade]

But the differences is

We are completely unhinged on that server

So uh being "Normal" here is kinda weird

It's like seeing your teacher outside of school

[merry birch]

lmao

but i did come here to ask for help with bagpipe paradox simulation

since guides didnt help at all

[frosty spade]

The CC?

[merry birch]

no

[frosty spade]

Oh

OH PARADOX

[merry birch]

Bagpipe looks like this

and I still cant clear it....

[supple mountain]

tips for 10-17? this is my current squad and the cannon instantly oneshots my gladiia and other ops so only spalter can survive it

i tried borrowing kal'tsit but manfred kills her with the ranged arts while he's going into 2nd phase

[near folio]

Adverse environment?

[supple mountain]

no standard environment

[near folio]

Hmm

Have mudrock?

[supple mountain]

no

[rustic mica]

Londinium Secondary Defense Artillery deals 3k true damage so maybe use someone with a lot of hp and give that op as much healing as you can like 3 healers or so

[supple mountain]

i only have matoimaru that can tank the cannon does that work?

[near folio]

I only have video clear of adverse environment

[supple mountain]

it's okay

[near folio]

But I think the general strategy is about the same

https://youtu.be/EYv_ObExZ8I

The good thing about standard is that you can aim the cannon in the middle to hit both Manfred and the mobs

Remove both problems at once

[rustic mica]

if u planning to use her to stole Manfred and she ain't gonna die on his attack then maybe

[near folio]

Manfred stays in the middle quite long for standard

Just drop someone to trigger cannon in the middle and wipe out both mobs and manfred

[rustic mica]

ye its quite long

[molten swan]

"big"

[near folio]

Honestly the standard environment looks more interesting than adverse

But being able to bomb both manfred and the mobs in the middle makes it a lot easier

[glass monolith]

10-17 is funny because "hard" version of it is somehow easier

Boss separated from majority of stage
No leeches
Still spawn killable top left
Free Fartooth estate to kill boss

[near folio]

Ngl Manfred stands out in the open for an absurd amount of time in normal version

The guy is basically inviting the cannon to hit him

[near folio]

Tbh the boss separation is what makes adverse harder for me

Having to bomb all the other mobs top left while taking manfred's hits at the same time on the right

[signal flicker]

Need help with anni3

[indigo pulsar]

we're going to need your current team, strategy, and other operators you've raised

[glass monolith]

How were people dealing with RI-EX-8 back at it release? Just out of curiosity

[storm current]

forgot what map

i assume just ceobe

or eyja

[glass monolith]

One where chicken has curse of bloodknight and rushes box

[storm current]

basically

if your melee ops is in bush

they are immuned to the stun explosion

so ye

[glass monolith]

CM bans 4 out of 5 bushes

[storm current]

other than that

[glass monolith]

And chicken still rushes

[latent monolith]

Look at the kyo guide for it or smth it may give some idea

[storm current]

they use suzu or even more dps for bird

i think donut has a video for that

[tidal sedge]

Do nut

[merry narwhal]

Use Frostleaf Use Indigo for the bird

[glass monolith]

I already bruteforced it with Gladiia, i was just curious

[vernal lion]

ah yes, back to the old day when I gambled Frostleaf s2m3 that it would bind him to dead but it failed

[sly pivot]

eben strong

[vernal lion]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/669489344658014208/942022280807055371/2022-02-12_18-38-13.mp4

[true arrow]

I fucking suck at CC, is it normal to have problems with it?

Here's my roster, it's super meta so it's clearly a skill issue

[signal flicker]

Skills level?

[true arrow]

If there are any masteries, it's marked red on the screen, otherwise lvl 7

[lapis mauve]

Yap skill issue, my roster way better than this and still suck at cc or any event

[true arrow]

my roster way better than this and still suck at cc or any event
Okay that's good, I just suck at arknights

[vernal lion]

welcome to #strategy

[foggy grove]

are you having trouble with perma?
the canon mechanic is kinda sucks to get used to

but it's not so bad after you get used to it

[true arrow]

Perma but it's mostly daily CC like yesterday's grand knight bar district daily stage, I haven't cleared risk 8 and just gave up but I don't really want to play guideknights

[solemn anvil]

spoken like a true veteran
scarred by PTSD

[true arrow]

yeah but FOMO is making me stressed because I need materials so I'm losing materials by not clearing CC ilove this game

[foggy grove]

oh ysterday i just put all unga bunga

[true arrow]

I tried this too but it wasnt enough, my units just got rolled

[foggy grove]

horn and surtr

[vernal lion]

even 3 star did clear it to R24

[true arrow]

SHUT UP

IM NOT WATCHING GUIDEKNIGHTS ANYMORE

I PREFER TO FAIL THAN TO CLEAR IT WITH KYO

i am not even joking, watching guides just sucks the fun out of the game

I prefer to clear risk 4 by myself than risk 8 with guides

[vernal lion]

then try it yourself man, it's not like I say you are bad,
the game is literally strategy game, you need a brain to play it properly

[solemn anvil]

then if we help you its basically a guide,so pull those bootstraps up boi
so what are you looking for exactly?help on perma map r18?

[signal flicker]

Anni 3 pls

[true arrow]

just venting i guess

[signal flicker]

Pfp source?

[true arrow]

type "magplant" in youtube

[solemn anvil]

understandable have a nice day
gl clearing if you want for help here,just ask

[vernal lion]

your roster is pretty low for the anni 3 condition

[true arrow]

I guess I want to know if I'm underusing my Ifrit, because her attack range is so weird I tend not to pick her, is she that good?

[vernal lion]

even borrow, I don't think you can catch up to the guide

[foggy grove]

he has e2 at least

[solemn anvil]

she is,but for this CC perma not so much i think
ranged dps in general dont shine on this perma map CC

[foggy grove]

prolly won't be so bad with borrow

[vernal lion]

so what to borrow

[foggy grove]

maybe iffie or thorns
or he could just wait to e2 her chelter

[vernal lion]

no joke but, his squad got a lot of problem

[foggy grove]

this isn't so bad but yeah he really need to up them to 50ish
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/669489344658014208/1074327578657165382/image2.jpg

[solemn anvil]

im not sure if he has enough damage to kill defense crushers before getting stunned

seems sus

[vernal lion]

he won't

and also the big drones are gonna harass all his op

[signal flicker]

Ik

[signal flicker]

Lvl'd chalter too early

[solemn anvil]

good news is he has NG (not built) for those drones

NG e1 60 should be enough for 1 side at least

[vernal lion]

turrets, big drones, red spec op caster and a bunch of living zombie dudes

[signal flicker]

Im new what did you expect

I can get only 350kills

[vernal lion]

that map is 3 lanes on ground and 7 lanes on air

[signal flicker]

So who do I level?

[solemn anvil]

if you borrow and e2 fiametta with bp/exu (e1 60) behind her she can take care most stuff on top lane

but there's still bot lane

[signal flicker]

Chalter bot lane?

[vernal lion]

Chalter can go bot but you need timing
I also still have those timing lists

[solemn anvil]

then you have to manage her skill so that she can use the skill on hammer bros
assuming with s3,idk what s2/s1 damage numbers is

lappland can possibly be budget ifrit on top side with s2 facing down to help mid

kinda sus tho

[signal flicker]

Sus what?

[solemn anvil]

as in im not sure how effective it will be

[signal flicker]

Who do I level?

Max lvl thorns on my list is lvl40

[vernal lion]

Gummy, Arene, Mousse, Shirayuki, Sussurro

those are useful op for this anni, back to the old days

[signal flicker]

I can promote 1 of the 4*

Snipers

Vermeil or shirayuki?