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EN moment
gaming
Gamin
Pretend it's M8-8 secret ending and leak the boss
Damn he really khant
Cant you perma stall with lee?
Lumens dead
Lmao
Maybe not
he needs to dodge
abit
just a tiny bit
also idk how u can kill the boss
hes just gonna keep proccing the artillery cannon
and im gonna run out of bodies
Just have someone with enough HP to not die to the cannon
so i need to perfect retreat
Idk if that works
But your healing is lumen ansel 
its modified zpkf strat
i use on 4★
Damn that sounds military
Gigachad

Leite is much better player than me
No
fuck i think it does
oofie
Block comes first
w1 max risk when
Uhh
i mean if block is the same
wtf dalao
Yeah it will
jesus christ i cant use mountain

W1 max risk is so easy
hi fer

Czerny can tank cannon 
i can tank u
wait a fucking minute
😳
With his skill up he has like 6.6k HP even
Should've wrote [Modified Z.P.K.F Inter-Continental Ballistic Missile Strat]
bruh
It fits with current cc theme anyway
Smh unraised grani and wild mane
Now I think about it
I want to raise wildmane at some point, but damn why 6*s keep coming 
La pluma got that nice lanehold on left side
And self sustain too
Well atleast on w1
u can deal with it?
Heard that it's cheesable
Well
We can separate Manfred and the minions
And then heal the blocker with like 2 healer
Or 1 optimistic lumen
i se
i finally did it... 1 hour and 15 min from ending
Tbh my actual concerns is with the laneholder
Would savage+hibiscus be able to handle left lane
And would it even able to hold before cannon bait comes again
If there is no ally hp down risk i can just have Eunectes beat shit out of FRED 
I would like to say this game sucks
Up till 55%↓
@scarlet ledge may I ask you for a test
Hibiscus+savage
Will they, with my chosen r18 risk
what lane
Able to handle left lane
what risk?
ye what tag
Does Freezing stop Manfred's attack speed stacking?
If i recall right he must not attack for like 4 seconds to drop stack
guys can this beat h10 3
Oh... Like i give a fuck i will Eunectes S2 this bitch sorry ass 
not sure how long it is for cc10
What is his base attack interval?
Oh fuck my life FRED left 2 and 3 is "Immune to cannon stun"
Saw a strat with Irene + Gnosis cheese Manfred till dead 
oh wait, FRED was Sarkaz all along?
So this is why Mudrock worked in H10-3 for me
5 seconds

hi
Yo, then Irene alone can cheese him till dead ?
how much ture dmg does cannon do
3k
3000, 4000 with risk
Yea on 27 hp, very reassuring
that assuming you threw away all 3 hp risk, 1 cannon risk and most likely 2-3 DP risks
Me using Spalter try to get her kill for doll mode 
But she's too tanky with Gladiia on the field
cc10 🥱
h10 3 🤩
I want to ask about My CC#10 team
This is the original way in YT to do it...
Do you think I can do it this way if I change some 3 OP ?
khant didnt try hard cc 🤯
Are you doing the hard way 
@stable jacinth should be unless its a very tight timing strat
More like the obnoxious way LOL
or a flametail RNG thing
I see Flametail didn't matter that's why I use Saga instead
Yeah since I don't have Hai Mao (Gnosis) and NTR
If I have one of them I can pick the other one with Support units
Since Horn is Expensive as fck I try to lower it down by Using Saileach
I like how they aboose levitate with Irene 
Yea, the 7op spalter seems really fun strat
Where can I check it btw
His name
All lv1 strat amazed me with SA timing

Can't believe they did it with perfect timing to kill those sanguine
Pfffttt
Need Pozy & Hai Mao so I can't do it
I'm gonna stick with my Bird Cage
I dont like that clear, its not optimised at all
I will need a friend with m3s1 Irene to try some fun clear 
DOOOD, ive been stuck at mb8 for so long thinking its game over because jesselton walks into the right end but apparently he fucking loops!?
ive managed to get him to half hp, phase 2 in the middle thinking its impossible
Yea it's a lie 
Phase 1 he has big res, phase 2 he has big def so you may want to change your dmg dealer to someone else with art dmg to kill him easier
Every 4th attack is deadly because of 50% def ignore, so it's better if you can stun him to stop that special attack
is pozemkas e2, def down enough for phase 2 ?
Should be. It's 1k8 def iirc so she still does good dmg to him
Gnosis s1 can perma stall
Chen s1 can also perma stall
Take the other risk
1400 def 1400 atk
His special hit attacks twice ignoring 60% def
The other one makes enemies attack deal extra dmg or it's aura like H10-3 
*non ex
Its aura
There are some clears with perma stun
Chen s1 and bibeak s2 can do it
Well I don't like that aura part 
Imagine borrow Spalter every stage to enjoy AHknight 
I left it at m2 because I thought the shorter cycle at lower masteries would be useful for wd-8 3 op
never reattempted since
i finally got mudrock
is pot 1 or pot 2 the first dupe?
p1
Pot 6 my dream
Buy mudrock, proceed to e2 Sora instead, life is good 

I'm at some pepega point in game when i have too much units to build as F2P...
What if i skip Mlynar because people will roll him 
I need help by PR-B-2 mission without using support unit. I need it for upgrading my pozemka in E2.
ayo, is firewatch any good?
Works as a general sniper yeah
better than ambriel?
The high invisibility uptime makes her very good for several niche clears
If we remove it the high s1 uptime makes her a fair contestant even to 5*s in various situations
Shats on ranged enemies
(Enemies that dont need to be blocked to attack)
As well as funny nukes on s2
anyone tried surtr + medics in sss?
fair, but thing is, im not sure if im happy or sad that i got her, cuz i kinda like ambriel a bit better? but she's also not bad? im confused what to feel bout firewatch
who is the best e1 carry for anni 1
with a team mostly of e0
Invisibility gives more diversely good positioning
Anni 1!
?
Uhhhh
Gavialt?
Or eyja
Solid sniper that pops off when you need either damage without endangering fw against enemies or a funny nuke once in a while
Outside of those situations she’s a good deadeye sniper with a high-uptime high dmg performance
gavial 
i see, but im not sure
i think i prefer ambriel with her S2
I need help by PR-B-2 mission without using support unit. I need it for upgrading my pozemka in E2.
Shouldn't the CC channel be open now? JP is doing daily right ?
JP already Risk 36 day 1 and #cc-central is still closed 


fer doing high risk?
yeah, im doing max
will try to break cn record but it doesnt seem possible
I did r22w1 in CC9, worst mistake in my life 
Is the reason these 5 always die because my units are underleveled? Gavialter dies 1st and the ones that were being blocked by Gavialter target saria and she seems to die, and then they all die at 380 enemies killed
Which record ? 5 op 
Really unlikely
No. I don't find anyone can survive spearhead dude when they start marching 
i only did r26
Where can I post SSS stuff without going against the rules?
Your Thorn will die because of dragons too imo
Reason Thorns and 0.8 Fias is bitch ass cup dragon
Also Saria and AlligAlter will brobably die to 2600 attack red spears because game sends 2 at same time in end
Which op are you planning to replace/remove?
spearheads shank even defenders off-skill
idt shining gives enough def for saria to survive at least
oh yh and the last wave is a double
I really dont think any of the op there is replacable
Everyone’s too specific in their roles
i will try spalter
Then you’ll need to sub out probably ng no?
i dont think you can sub out ng
have you guys seen the 7op spalter?
Tank cannon!1!1!1
Easiest way i found from CC is using someone with infinite crowd control to kill him 
Like Gnosis (just need s1 lv7 iirc), Chen or irene S1m1 and waaalaaa. He's harmless 
Guys, do I upgrade Shining/Aak/Warf if I have these operators? Or buff squad is mostly just for memes?
Sk-4, e0 only, 6 steps
CC sheet is out 6 hours before the actual CC 
so we can prepare 🤯
Cc sheet’s been here for several days
Look in #discord-feedback
Buff is never meme. It helps you speed up some stage
Mod not posting it until 6 hours before CC
They forgor 💀
I don't think you need to raise Shining. Just Aak and Warf
wasn’t it posted in #cc-central like 14 hours before
hi feetus
hi leite
truly one of the CC of all time
krys copium
casterknight cc9 was still doable
don’t know how casterknight player gonna deal with this cc
CC#9 did see uses for GG, passenger and nightmare with the reapers funnily enough
Doesn't Aak kill like all ranged units with his buff?
Did we have a Kal + Cage + Skalter S1 loop Manfred strat for max risk?
ranged ops are often buffed with warf, skalter and other means
that’s why shining exist
Yea but ranged op doesn't want it like melee one
using aak to buff ranged ops is very much going out of your way
dies of death
You want to use Aak on big attack increase op like Surtr, SA, Mlynar for better dmg increase
You want to use Aak on melee ops yeah
Exu is a big bait
They all have very high attack increase on their skill so attack speed from Aak make their dps reach the rooftop, while range op like Exu, Poze, Ash want attack buff from Warf more
The bigger their +atk% the more you want Aak.
Like Surtr with her +330%. Adding +90% onto that is only a 27% damage increase.
Yes. Going from 330% to 420% (heh) is only 27% proportional increase.
Warf is not.
That's with art dmg. Phys dmg is different but yea Aak is still better in most case
90% is Warfarin buff.
oh they were talking about aak so I assumed that
Also not what I was talking about.
I just grabbed a high +atk%. I could have used Mlynars +400%.
Those big numbers where an increase of +90% is proportionally small.
Where Aak with his aspd can do so much more.
Ya ik it opens the same time
CC is 12 hours after daily reset.
But in 3h for me is almost the next day 
oh wait yh
Wait, not 12.
is it 12 or 6
istg CCs always messes me up
Either way it's pretty normal.
You would think so. But I still messed it up with "ex/S stage unlock" which is 12 hours after reset.
Maint already happened.
Plus that is for actual events. CC isn't one of those.
One permanent stage, 1 rotating stage and a shop. 10 min maint couple hours before daily reset is all that is needed.
Everything else is already in the game.
why isn't this channel locked during maintenance?!
oh there's no maintenance don't mind me
Yeah, maint happened a while ago. We have the rewards from it.
It's a +330% so it actually goes from 430% to 520%, a 20.9% increase 
Aak is much better here
saria's usually better
on paper
saria also provides slow to keep enemy in range longer also the heal might keep her alive for a couple more hits
aak can be helidropped and retreated though so he frees up a deploy slot
I love how a Aak vs Warfarin and the situations where Aak is a better choice keeps bringing in other ops.
I'll test that
49.6ish seconds with saria
43.2ish without
my surtr is lv70 saria is lv50
wait i thought surtr is supposed to be 30s
I was going by the dp bar
activated skill at 10dp died at 59.6ish with saria and 53.2ish without

When is cc
Soon™️
Damn
50 min
i got 33.4s without saria
pot 1 or 3
pot 3
wait its just 1 extra second
yeah
since i did the bn stall i always use the redeployment time
i feel its more precise
@opal kiln wait
are you sure
you count the dp after surtr die
or right before surtr die
since uh

if she dies you get 10 dp
oh bruh
just do -10 then
39.6 with saria 33.2 without
but yea redeployment time is probably better than dp meter


How can you even count dp meter wtf

is any other brawler besides mountain any good?
i think its only beehunter and jackie right?
well in 4* that is
yeh EN only
Flint is better than Beehunter and Jackie at least, but only Mountain is good really
Chungus is fine
I hear he does some work in easy content and sss
just tried mudrock.....I NEEED HER
U can buy her atm
not with my balance
or luck
Chonyue looks good tbh
chonguy is very fine in fact
his damage is obscene, especially with something like skalter
no lmao
💀
too much set up too wonky to work around with
you set up around him
you don't use him to set up around others
ok midnight time for hell
Oh cc
deploy ling
Dorothy 1op
whos dorothy?
probably someone's OC
what a weird name
80% dodge go brr
that's a name of all time
XxXepicgamerXxX
real
mudrock's one of the best defenders right?
Depends for what
but normal story and such
Also kinda depends, for most of it mudmud can solo a lane, yes
But at the same time she’s very expensive to drop
And will still die to waves of casters for example
can someone help me with this thing i need to beat level 2
utage's a good 4* guard right?
Unlimited 
but her S1 doesnt seem bad for someone who cant heal off medics
beehunter has the most funny paradox of the batch
On a scale of 1 to broke I am very broke
But pot5 obtained- I need it for NL coming up
Every little bit counts when E0 ig
Does chapter 9 have anything that requires arts
Or is the whole chapter physical enjoyment
You can definitely do it mostly physical which is nice
The defender dudes can be a little annoying
All enemies have +70 res and it's a silenceable effect
So if you want arts bringing
is a good move
You can also use normal res shred and be fine.
All enemies is kinda wrong
Jetpack bros dont have refraction
Uhh the flamethrower doesnt
but the fire is arts 
Shadowblades don't have refraction either
Yes
Except on the ones that don't say [Refraction] in their description
Like the flamethrower
Well, idk if I’m utilize it anyways
I already have a team more or less that’s clearing everything

silence won't do much later, because they will come in wave a lot in later stages
Use waai fu 
also the fireball dude will ruin your game if you don't know how to counter him
ayo, utage any good?
utage not bad
she was in my list but not sure why can't remember
decent arts burst from helidrop
she halves her HP on deploy which can be problematic for survival
and her damage naturally isn't comparable to a 6⭐
but it's pretty good overall
it's an on-deploy skill
you literally can't use it any other way
yeah but the HP halves is with a skill
there's a first skill which she just heals
could be good in downtime no?
or while she waits for enemies
what if they need full hp to survive a cannon
you aren't using a musha for cannon

pretty sure a musha wouldn't be used for a cannon
since anything they'd be fighting would be dead
and anything that isn't dead wouldn't be dualable by a musha
lemme guess, all musha's have a 50% or less talent?
up to +100 ASPD at 30% HP
Mushas want the sweet spot where they dont die but they’re at low
but are all musha's talent like that?
huh
then....why is it not part of the trait
they differentiate after module
technically yes
but she's low priority overall
there's some stages where i use 2* or 5*
so, my snipers medics then her or sniper her and medics?
musha survivability is highly dependent on promotion and level
snipers first
medics last
ok
so, snipers, guards, vanguards, defenders medics right?
or somewhat by that order
the difference between E1 musha and E2 musha is 40% more self healing
oof that's kinda a lot
yeah pretty much
ok
50 HP per hit at E1
70 HP per hit at E2
jess isn't worth the E2 compared to meteor or may right?
may >>> meteor = jessica
hmm
ok got it
wouldn't metor be better?
since her S1 is pretty much a defence down while jess can be pretty much negated?
you did say you use 5* sometimes too
ambriel is just slow and stun isn't she
oh yeh stun that's it
meteor also deals more damage on flying enemies
true
I did E2 and M3 for both and I use meteor way more
which would be mostly why i'd use a marksman
and the def debuff is a bonus
so i think ima E2 meteor and then utage
I'd probably do utage first
meteor really isn't that important
and you can kill drones with E1 marksman
unless it's frost drones or UFOs
yeh
so utage
i just need now arene, estelle and purestream
then my 4* collection will be completed
*good 4 stars
for fully 4* i'd need chestnut
Don't worry, you will pull him soon enough.
chestnut, arene, purestream, estelle and conviction? i think the last one was limited
There is no limited 4 star.
Conviction is an april fools operator if that is what you mean.
Like Savage, but not.
you get them every april fools
So, if you do not own Conviction then one will be delivered to you April 1st ish.
You get them regardless, and they cannot gain potentials. forever pot 1.
so now i need may and utage to E2
oh
ok then
so 4 ops
4 4*
huh
silvergun used utage's S1 in a niche
interetesting
When you're 4 star only you tend to have to think outside the box.
There is zero trivialising.
Instead there is hundreds of sanity down the toilet and double digit hours of your life you're never going to get back.
Watch his stream sometime.
it must be incredibly hard yeh
yeah fair
also
fuck
18 sanity with hope for a guard token and nope
specialist
which is worse cuz i can't even fucking trade em for guard
Not built your base at all?
You can swap chips in the workshop.
oh yeah i can
But only ones from the same stage.
3 for X becomes 2 for Y.
yeah i only got 1 for x
Yeah, get used to that feeling. At least 4 stars don't need chip glue.
hi bootleg silvergun
sup
i have been the patted
If you mean the cannon, it targets the person with the highest block count on the field, it will then strike everyone in range for 3000 true damage.
3000 true damage each.
Any easy strategy for this one?
grab max lvl kal
i already sent the vids on #cc-central
is passenger any good
damn pretty sure cuz she's temporary op but jackie is pretty cool
Passenger REALLY wants fairly heavy investment.
Not even Chalter can kill an enemy in that example stage.
hp bar where 
funny development mode: infinite HP
hi there
is canta worth the m6?
yes, both skills are amazing to work
saileach and texas p5 come home pls
Does defense ignore / pure damage / defense lowering work to get around the damage resistance of the touches of the sanguinarch?
or are there any other tricks for getting around it to kill them any faster?
aciddrop or projekt red's "at least x% atk" talents ?
True damage ignores their damage negation nonsense yes
Def shred/ignore does not work. True damage and "minimum" damage do.
Things like NTRs S2 spawn in and kals S3 are my personal preferred ways of killing them
Or just overwhelming damage. I like running Kal S2 against them. But my Kal is E2L90 so Mon3tr has the raw attack for it.
my kal is e0 lvl 50 right now lol
i have a solid strategy for most of the contracts on the permanent stage right now but it's heavy on redeployment so the +75% bonus to redeploy time is crushing me
Mudrock and AlligAlter, who to E2 first? 
You can e2 them both within a week RIGHT
Hahaha, no.
gavialter first for IS3
Mudrock.
Hahaha k
Uh... Perhaps 
First thing i did as CC started was E2 Sora
Takes me about 2 weeks to go from E0L1 to E2L50ish.
Only thing i am missing is chip themselves
With no events and whatnot.
Werent you going to farm the red coins tho?
Considering we currently have 2 dead weeks there is plenty of time to red cert farm.
Yup
UHHHHHhhhhh
Why i have that many of it? 
why i still have that many of it 
We get a bunch every couple months.
Btw, do you guys know if Il Siracusano direct also gave materials and stuff?
As compensation?
Probably
In CN anniversary stream they always decide to give a bunch for mail rewards
Yeah, those
The lowlight funny dice thing
I'm going to research actually lol
lol yea I don’t know the details
Rigged X2 All each time 
Lmao yea literally fuck dice
Utage is really good
Time to save
like, real poor
Anyways, need any help with CC?
i hate being out of sanity
both in game and in real life due to grind
tho i think utage will be a good addition if i need an arts guard
without being an arts guard
m9 60 no module, will do?
We'll have to try to know right?
Skill 2 i assume?
I dont know daily stage but i assume you want to cancel fireboy 
Svbb#2321
Does anybody have magallan with s1
Let's try s3 first
If we wanna "chalter it"
Chalter skill has higher range iirc when skill
Sent
Accepted
i need to commit act of existing IRL, but i can change skill if needed if you ping somewhere after 10-15 minutes
Aight thanks
Oh
Which team is best for CC?
How much risk for Daily, only R8 Eka?
Well, all the E2s you have right now will do the work
I'm struggling with CC 8
You can also try to stall/tank Manfred with Nightingale + Mountain or similar
Which is?
I have Irene far left on invisibility and SA/hosi middle lane, nightingale between them
I borrow a mudrock to tank the cannon and put her far back
And who baits the cannon?
Copium and try if gladiia S2 could do a chalter
Ah
Mountain and Myrtle far left, and I deploy nightingales cages to take the caster stuns
And what do you have problems with? @craggy turret
Manfred going into phase 2 gets my mid and far right lane
I see
It's either him or the enemy build up that gets them
If gladiia skill hasn't up by the time another enemy came, stall with robots
As for the gundam, let them leak
Phantom at the start then mudrock
Try to stall Manfred and not to burst it if you can't deal with P2 with ease, you can also bring a Kalsit instead and use Monster for the cannon/kill Manfred
Thing is that the enemies that spawn usually get nightingale and Irene
I'll check if I can make a strat later lol
Yeah that shouldn't be happening
Monster far back?
hmm?
Yeah, use it like Mudrock
What difference would it make?
Lower RDP time, True damage to kill Manfred
I can kill Manfred with a surtr + eyja duo, the problem is the enemy leakage
Ok, give me a moment
I just use a maxed Hoshi with 2 healers and have the cannon do 99.8% of the work.
His Hoshi is only 30 sadly
MAN: Parry this
Actually parries
MAN: Well sh-
@craggy turret how much risk was it?
any suggestion to deal with Dublinn Evocator?
6 or 8
Place your tank in the intercection with no other ops in the surrounding 8 tiles
can it be silenced?
damn that will be annoying since i am using pozy
Kroos alter can stun cancel their attack... Up to the point of them doing Blood Knight on you (Moving into blue box without giving fucks) 
they're too slow lol
when the burn effect max up my op die immedietly?
it deals 1200 arts damage and reduces their res for 10s
I just did gavial hospital squad but that's not really a good option
You don't need tankiest. A guardian/medic defender is fine. Their innate res means they don't take the full 1200.
since most people don't have like 5 E2 medics
Or borrow a decently leveled Mountain.
i am thinking of using art protector
I'm never touching that risk again
Finally got it
Gratz
Ayo, how the fucc do I deal with sarkaz casters?
Damage.
The bondage casters will target the closest last deployed operator in range.
Do they only bind the last one or any closed that was the last is binded?
I used a bait op (Ethan because why not) to keep my Kal and Mon3tr from getting stunned.
Closest last deployed.
art defender worked
So I gotta distract them with someone
ayyeee
Will they bind another person or?
Their bondage spell has weird target priority.
Manfred be trolling with that dodge chance
The bait needs to be there before they choose their target.
it has normal targeting
@wind silo you also got it?
the only difference is that it has wider range
i am trying to buy all the cc op since i am 11 cert away from mudrock
Either a fast redeploy or a summon
Nightingales cages are ideal
Wdym?
The casters on the top left
Finished daily?
Oh alright, tell me when you unlock R8
How much hp do the casters in CC10 have?
It feels like it’s a lot more than normal
They have?
shit they always felt so squishy
yeah 12k
they have 200 def so I assume normally you'd just shred them with a marksman sniper
Yeah that’s probably it
Lesgo stage 2 done
Can mountain solo left side in cc?
For CC10, which Mudrock skill should I share in borrow? S3?

@frigid kite
Gladiia is truly the operator of all time

I could trim some of the units because I literally doesn't use them
Like amiya, Erato, and fang
Meh, sure
it's a Spiderman reference bro I didn't mean that
Yup S3
that's not me wth
So far I only asked here and in another server
And not even strat
Literally just asked for a unit
And , cc clear screen don't belong here
I'm gonna raise Exu and Schwarz now cuz Snipeknights
(risk 8)
Someone got banned before
Way to be an elitist asshole about it.
?
What do u mean ?
Yes the vid helped, making kalsit get manfred low at spawn seemed a good idea, then replaced catapult with goldenglow s3 n it helped with left, n used fast redeploy at last mins to make arty hit left too
Khold being khold again ig , said something and gone

Me when the
What do you mean "what do I mean?"
Is it not blindingly obvious?
Who should I use to hold the left side in cc perma map?
Ye
Even cc centre is not allowed too
Then convo moves on
Plebbel and Monika moment
Idk , u go post there then
And post things if it worked
Ling dragon higher form r good candidate, or mudrock if u have, but if manfred right, then leave it open better n only block at last moment when cannon fire
Both gone
Mods please explain I couldn't get a good logic reasoning for this
And wait I thought you'll get a warning first before you get banned?
Use the #salt-mines channel they say
Clear screens go in #salt-mines
Not straight up ban
Ooh, didn't thought about that strat. Thanks 
should've made a second channel for cc clear
Then you post literally any information except for the clear screen.
And close it after cc ends
It's been in the rules for years.
Ye , clear screen flex
Flex sure
Pulls and clear screen flex go into #salt-mines
If you want to get around it then post the screenshot right before you clear the stage
But actual need for strat convo
Then post a screenshot of the tile layout.









