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and also
SP, healing, freeze, auto and cooldown
why do u have japanese goblin as your user name link again
Rickrolls
ah
Dont you know
yea
Backthen theres a tradition of putting CC homework in nickname season
i made someone tried it for me
Need help for IC-EX-8 too
and u do it bcs u want to japanese goblin everyone
Well yes
For the meme

@lament forum do you happen to have surtr and pozy
For the easy clear
kill boss and surfer men
use cars for everything else
Nope
Then you should borrow pozy for boss
Also don't expect much from my car I'm late in this event so I pretty much have shit parts only
not having car is major box2 gaming 
Had to stay away from yt guides because I don't have good car parts yet
so anyone got ling ♿
who
I have but not m3 tho
leite u must have ling right?
💀
I didnt bother to mod 2 my Ling as well because i simply avoid using her because of how her power creep make people dumb 
It somehow doesn't work
Whyy
Then there's me who's too dumb to use her in the first place
Idk what happened
was u able to burst the drone down right in the beginning
No
ah
Iirc best was half
have u tried the other dude plan
Where's the sadskadi
like with no scene
I tried the one with both scene and them
Like
Mix
still ded?
lol
it would be easier for us if we can actually play your acc
but hope u and your friend can do it
no lul
rip
i got fart and lee on main acc
now
glad i gor fart
kek
cause she fucmingn dodge me 5 times
on her banner
didnt care about ling
lol
why
pretty desperate i know
what stage
MO-1
Just ignore dodge
was going for the guide that totallynotalolicon give me
For which stage?

lol
MO-1
Passenger carry time
was going for a lazy arse guide
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use god
350 wave basically solved by a module 3 Passenger
Don't use AFK guides they require shit operators
but wat if im lazy ♿
yeah bottom is either Kal or arts guard
feetus
It's short
yes
like incredibly short
compared to average anni
so i have to actually play 

i did it with just ling and skalter so doesnt really require much thinking
im missing the ling
grab
just use support
should have said it sooner
And dragon are overkill anyway
💀

how am i suppose to know
4* gamer my favourite
dont worry m8, once you get to high E2 levels you can start to AFK most stuff. AFKing IC-S-4 CM was objectively less stressfull than figuring out when to use carts, but honestly the biggest reason i would AFK stages is no longer an issue - annihilation.
but now that theres anni ticket, afking kinda ded relative to before those tickets
yea i dont have that much e2 fr
just pull material out of my ass fr
🤯

kek
ppl gonna make clone like crazy
are you me? I farmed 200 thinking i would be good for the near future. I still have 185 left. Every other time ive stocked up a lot of a upgrade mat during event farming, i always end up running out decently quick. This is the first time i got way too much
Just got Warfarin do I level her or do I focus on e2ing my chalter
E1 Skill level 7 Warf as "surprise tool which will help us later" and continue Chaltering
E2 chalter if you dont need another medic in immediate future, but Warfarin is probably the best ST medic (rarely will Shining make or break a stage, when Warf wouldnt be able to)
S-3 CM sure is fun
Agree
S-4 is an absolute joke compared to it
her s1 heal is really good
so as you can see my name im a bootleg Drsilvergun so that means 4* only, now i ask, which 4 stars should i perhaps stay away from?
Frostleaf
ok good cuz i already was
although her design is cool as hell her kit is the opposite
and i don’t really think u will find much use in conviction
good cuz i aint got anyone with that name
Normally Meteor is hot garbage but for 4 stars only she's one of the main sources of def reduction
that's the archer right?
also greyy is meh
sorry still not good with names
fair enough
aa sniper is kind of hard to mess up
aa?
Anti Air
oh yeh yeh my bad
Aka marksman sniper subclass
jackie and greyy is a meh even in 4* only
yeah and i assume bee hunter too?
beehunter have used s o m e times
ok ok
the some here is used very lightly
she is
like in IW
what are those some times?
she was used to punch all of the small stuff
ok ok got it
Also Matterhorn and Earthspirit are overshadowed by ops in the same niche
yeah i kinda dont use those
yeah
in deffenders we got quora, gummy, bubble and maybe dur-nar? not sure haven't tested her yet
Dur-nar is really just arts damage bait and dps
cuora with a c
respect the brick tutel smh
you right you right
but yh, cuora has stupidly high def for a 4*
lemme actually go trough my list of ops and see recomendations
Also 4 block and self regen
That is much easier
pretty good ngl
All 4 are going to see use in 4* only
Jaye is busted and Ethan with module too
that’s all of the 4* vg
beanstalk
Oh yeah Beanstalk
her skin blinded me
beanstalk?
ok got it
guards is my problem, the only good ones i have are matoimaru and mousse and beehunter for s o m e stuff
her crab has some pretty nifty stalling applications, provided you learn how to use her
i have also frost, dober and jackie
cutter'a damage is kinda illegal
but those suck right?
Utage is good
yea
ok so
frostleaf is unplayable, utage got module shafted but else she's nice
u should try to get nuker tags in recruitment
dobermann sees niche use too, ST damage with her 1x3 range and the ability to be deployed on ranged tiles
so with that in mind which guards should i aim for? cutter, arene, utage? anyone else?
that’s it
if you play 4*-only you'll probs find a couple stages for dobermann once every half year 
bloodknight 4* guard only lol
defenders im good with mine right? bubbly, gummy, cuora and dur-nar?
Yup no need for anything else
aight
matterhorn is a late-game raise if you need a hp pool/arts tank instead of the def tank cuora
well i also got him so im good
yh that's all
4* sniper is actually all around pretty solid so that’s nice
meteor: i slep
jess, may, shira, pinecone, ambriel, acird and vermeil
may and pinecone
oh also meteor
ur doing 4* so you’re building all of them anyway
Neither is great, but I suppose Meteor helps with defense problems
but i think build meteor first for the def reduce
pinecone is busted, may's cc is evil, ambriel has funny snipes but you'll have to learn cycling, aciddrop plays with scratch damage
yeah but im building a list in notes of who to prioritize
May/Meteor is a good start
And pinecone for carry
shira too perhaps?
shirayuki's good if you need arts aoe rn, i personally haven't found use for her but then again i don't play 4*-only
May / Pinecone / Meteor / Aciddrop / Shirayuki these good enough for now?
aight so casters
indigo click haze pudding are all good caster especially in 4* only
thankfully i got all of them
Oh boi 4 stars casters arent great
meteor gets benched if you're not maining snipers imo, outside of drone-heavy stages it usually is better to just bring casters to avoid def
fair enough
If for some reason you want an aoe caster Gitano is usable
click and indigo carry 4* casters
haze is used a lot in patriot stage for some reason
her damage is pretty good so who cares
Click / Indigo / Haze / Pudding how bout these to 4* casters?
well, res shred for haze, but myeh i feel like 4*s grew out of that
i would still raise pudding tho
works
wait do we have anyone else lmao
actually not sure
sides gitano
medics......sussurro, perfumer, myrrh ez
Myrrh Is'nt really used
sus, perfumer and purestream should work
hmm purestream dont have her
Support tag in recruitment gets her
medic/healing + support nets her
chestnut in elemental damage heavy stage
maybe gavial?
i have right here it says medic
that's Gravel
i think try deepcolour too
gav's a pseudo-aoe medic imo, good as long as you don't meet huge waves of damage
ok ok so gavial it is
Yo it's 2 pm for me
5 pm for me
it’s 12AM for me
silvergun abuses her whenever he doesn't get statchecked, but tbh she's a whenever
i will go to sleep after this
for supports i think podenco and deepcolor are the only gud i have
unless you're going for dodge gaming 
so roberta for some uses?
They're half of all 4* supporters
THERE'S ONLY 4?
Ye
bruh thank fuck i have em all
lel
does it matter what character i e2 first? should i just e2 the one i like the most
all of the 4* specialist are great or do their job
roberta's good, maybe not an early raise but her shields should fill the gap between defender-medic cycles
ok ok
Usually you want your best unit to be your First e2, but it's your choice
it kind of matter a lot yes your first e2 would be your main dps usually and u will use them a lot
so its done now specialists......ethan, jaye, gravel,shaw and rope?
huh
All of them lmao
what about pink hair sniper with the turret? shes my fave and i like to use her
damn
yea she can be your first e2 no problem
dps machine, go ahead
alright ty!
i like pinecone first e2 more but that’s just me
Pozyomka. Broken. Worth the investiment
can i drop the text file i made with all the info here or is it not allowed?
it’s allow yea
i’m on my phone rn so i can’t even see it 💀
LMAO
oh i can just need to open note
well yeah
benefit as summoner
you typed pretty fast huh
yh i'd just raise her at least after the other core 4*s are E2'd
pretty much the list you guys gave me so i can know who to get but edited in case someone wants it to 4* gaming
sadly it shall not be pinned
4* player are usually older player who already have knowledge of the game so yea
it kind of make sense
yeah did i make it in the side is there any spelling errors?
yeah but incase some new guy like me wants it as a challenge or sumthing idk /shrug
gnight gamer
she exist too
oh right
Just spent 100+ sanity for ic ex 8 cm now I need help for Ic s 1
I don't have the charging algorithm which seems to be necessary for every run that I see on YouTube
I have the green inferior one tho
might wanna farm ic 7 8 9 to gacha till algorithm
or just get lucky during engine club
tfw its not letting me place the roads
lol
chp8
oh
yep
ngl havent touch the stage like a lot
Open mountain e2
i been farming alloy on event node prev
4 CEU 8 polymerized gel
kek

Yea I farmed the gel already fortunately
Wait for DV for alloy
But everything gel-related also costs alloy sadly

Yea next year maybe
getitng pushed again
ye
So have fun
Salt?
O
Goddammit
As long as it’s not gel AND alloy
Guess what
F2p life sucks
Only 125 aketon and 60ish RMA
alloy
I cry
Future ops still eat a lot of CEU
This event sucks
love ur gel
Gel usage are mainly CEU and salt
but rma also too needed
yea and 90% of the "good" operators use CEU
but my alloy is at 254
for some god-forsaken reason

Does anyone know what to look up for guides if you don't have the 50% cooldown from the car/events? My friend got every single one except that one and he's been actively playing and every guide seems to use it
Depend on the map
If you dont have -50% launch cooldown
Freezing strat will be impossible
My friend needs ic-s 1-4 + the anni + the last ex stage
80% speed is only for EX8 where you get 2 launcher instead of 1
o
You'd have more luck looking for guides in Bilibili than YT
oh yea this one can max risk
what do i look up
IC-S-1 突袭 低配
突袭 = Challenge Mode
低配 = Low Rarity
Most guides will still use that -50% CD part, but I remember seeing guides that used more unconventional loadouts
only 3 videos come up
Are you in bilibili.tv? You should go to bilibili.com instead
I did it for him using surtyr
I don't recall there being a way to look for low car requirements, maybe 不永冻 for no perma freezing but most videos just say low rarity
Since most guides expect you to have all parts before the end of the event
Ok so goblin it's
无车
Technically Arknights-related because Lowlight
when you still dont have all the parts
i'm having this problem where bubble doesnt do enough damage, any one i could replace her with? either dur-nar or gummy i imagine
hmm
my problem is mostly
bubble with her skill just tanks stuff and doesnt do enough damage, if i could i'd use liskarm and quora
quora as in the forum site?
FUCK I MEANT CUORA
yeah i guess so
which stage? what are you blocking?
just regular gaming ngl
but i guess it does depend on stage, this one im doing could be better with dur-nar ye
so a situation that require 3 block/damage/ground tiles
yeh
no Estelle? then Gummy or Dur-nar
Sounds like E2 Estelle job 
yeah durnar it'll be
isnt dur-nar a better defender in most situations since she deals art damamge?
it can be a problem in some situation when there's Sarkaz (high Res)
fair but im not that far i think
Durnar
or if u have shalem from is2 use him , hes durnar but more damage esentially
He's learning the way of the 4*
i think ima skip this 4* only challenge, cuz my strategy isnt good either way and limiting my stuff to 4* only is kinda bad?
gimme your opinions fellas
hmm?
should i or should i not do the 4* only challenge?
do you have all the meaningful 4*s maxed out?
You farm the stages first to max out your 4*s THEN you do the challenge
nope
so im guessning not then
I think it's a good way to learn tricks (like binding) but you will miss on the DPS part for some stuff
well, realistically you can make the cars do a looot of work in this event
but, the weaker your 4*s are, the more the cars have to compensate for
have you been running 4* teams for long?
weirdly enough, i don't know when you got jaye
like...i dont remember either but since i saw my luck was shit, so like....mid way trough where i am now
my problem now is that i wasted a lot of rescourses on 4*
how often do you full clear events with your 4*s?
no cuz i got story and eliting to do
every story starts somewhere ig
yeh
ganbatte
one sec

Is the e1 level 1 thing intentional
Or is that just to highlight who you own
ok usually I like playing IS2 but the monthly squad for jan is so bad
I can't get past the 3rd floor 
YEAHH
i struggled to get the 3rd record
had to get lucky and get the easy boss and skip stages
and by skip stages i mean avoid emergency so i can have lifepoints to sac on the harder stages
Carnelian squad upcoming

Carnelian sounds usable
ice duo pretty easy for me
Iris on the other hand :/
so, fellas, what should i do with my bunch of ops?
bruu
dang ok skill issue on my part
I'm not too familiar with 4* only gameplay but what level are these ops
yeahh fr shalem is all the damage
she helped on the jetpack stage
20-40
Against drones
oh ok
well I don't know what I did wrong but I started getting the gargoyle stages for the first time while doing the monthly with the shalem team
mod 3?
and I just. can't do any damage to the chapter 10 enemies.
Modules are the secret sauce of making 4* operators usable for the general public
oh, they aint even E2
yeah it sucks too since ur on that team u wanna get a healer and a sniper
Well there's probably your 2nd problem
Um I e2 iris then just get thorns and gg
any tips on how to get the 3rd record 
I save for 6 Hope
Cheat
4* units are heavily reliant on raw stats to function properly
Even moreso than higher rarities cause they don't get very strong talent or skill upgrades
Is the way I go
I've gotten lots of hope but the best tickets I've gotten are medic and specialist over and over so far
Nd hopefully get 3 star medic/sniper tocket
2 hrs of attempts 
i see, so i shouldn't do the challenge right?
4 star borrows are hell to find too
Given that you're not too heavily invested yet you have that option
So it's up to you
yeah i do guess so
I don’t know couldve be a myth but I don’t skip specialist or supporter
nah ima use mostly 4*
why am I getting stages I've never seen before in monthly squad anyways? 
BUT
that's never happened before
also use 5* if i see they are better
Uhh sure
Just keep in mind 4* units really like having maxed levels, masteries and modules
fair, ill just try my best cuz my roster aint that good
I got my first playwright encounter in monthly squad
It sounds like a lot but they're cheap by comparison to anything else
yeah i know
OK well goodluck

Idk I'm trying to max out my 4* too
fair enough
So far it's been working well enough
Like I said the modules really help so I'd consider picking up some good 4* mod3
Like cutter or may for example
it's not a problem for where you are at the moment but you may remember that Dr.Silvergun's OP's are maxed with lot of experiences with game mechanics
Oh so that is not the main acc
yeah fair
I did look at the krooster
um
yes only 6* i have is hoshi
take your time, learning mechanics is priority for the moment
oh damn
i do have 3 alt accs
kek
the update
it added new stagrs
soo
oh right
yeah
damn
4th ending too
i wanna do it for pokedex
same
man I'm done fr
this must be the 20th run of today
and this was the closest, yet
we'll get em next time
godspeed
can someone explain the sss toron mine boss abilities to me? dont understand how the eye icon affects the ops in waiting zone
When you deploy that operator it will immediately have the rock debuff
The other thing he does is just apply the curse to your already deployed operator with highest attack, it doesn't anything more special
sesa sucks big time doesn't he?
why does he suck tho if i may ask
uhh..
hes not bad if u use his as a regular artillery sniper,
but theres much more options lol
problem solved
so shira better?
S2 slow and add art DMG
fair enough
yeah
and if i dont want arts damage i just dont use the skill right?
uhh
You use it when you need to kill stuff, it's not a damage type swap
but doesnt it change the damage to arts damage?
her inital hit is physical and than her shuriken lingers and does slow + aoe arts damage to a certain area
yeah, not the best unit to raise
i heard melantha was better than him
yeah for being cheaper and doing the same thing at a low level
flamebringer is just a HP soaker and has like 5k-7k hp without any buffs and with investment, his s2 takes too long to charge practically so you usually use s1
spending resources into a mediocre unit is pretty effy if you dont like them enought to bring them into your team
By the way I put my ID in #friend-id if you want (all 4* maxed out) and some good ops
"A picture is worth a thousand words"
W bomb can still miss if enemies walk way too fast btw
its okay atleast she has s3
true
loll
even if u un invis, than mark them with w s3 and than they go invis again they dont get damaged
well question then
is blacknight any good? i fear using her cuz she costs 15 dp outright
but its kinda 2 for 1

pretty niche, not your average vandguard (mainly bc of sleep), beanstalk is easier to use
i aint got her
Hmm
i mean shes not bad
shes not crazy strrong either
but she works at e1
and her aoe arts and cc can come in handy
I use blacknight cause she hot
note that the summon block only one (correct me if wrong) and that you can't retreat it without tossing her
yea
u can still activate her skill even when the hypno is dead too, and it still sleeps enemies in the adjacent tiles
lol\
Okay, so, even after playing for 3 years now I cannot do well in IS. I try to pick Ops recommended for it but I often die early in the run- even on the easiest mode. I'm always low on hope, even trying my hardest to conserve it and picking 0 cost Ops. Any general advice or is this a "suffer and git good" situation?
who are you starting with
Well it depends on what tickets I get. I try for 2-Block Vanguards like Siege, Courier, or Fang depending on hope... one sec
Was doing the Monthly Squad just now
the what
I would certainly not spend hope on siege or courier
fang's free so you hopefully have another carry
Is2 u need good aoe dmg on early floor , strong survivability mid floor , later floor u need big dmg op
you start with 8 hope, the easiest way is to pick a 6* who can carry you early even e1
I have many carries but I feel like I always pick the wrong one
like uh kal's an obv example if you have
some ppl like ling I feel it's kinda cope but eh
Ling gets expensive really fast
or like idk, I think gg's fairly popular
Like , early floor pick gavial , mid floor get mudrock sa , later floor get pozy horn
use gg s1 idk
I can do that
is mud good for 4th ending
Ya
I find her whatever in is2 but haven't played that in a while
oh yeah gavial forgot yeah
Uhh
Try my mostima kroos spot start
It reached mouthpiece ending on hard difficulty
Trust
I have Horn but I've yet to quite figure her out
Theres even better, try eben start
Oh hell nah
horn start is very sus
Not you
Horn start works

Pray you dont get survivalist
everything works if you try I'm trying to help the guy here
Well u can start with anyone tbh , mizuki meteorite pluma W
Survivalist fuck you up unless your carry is frd
not lol try my mizuki start I got all 4 endings with it
Gigachad
Mostima is currently in the "WIP" bin sadly. I didn't get her until this year somehow
I have Mizuki E2'd
Moduled s2m3 and ur good to go
So mosti was purely for floor 5
I'll work on that
Pluma I gave E2 S2M3
Scales to later floors easily
Have*
Myrtle
Cantabile
Not Elysium?
Real
I have Cantabile at E2
yeah I only take ely if free or -hope cost relic
bro the dude can't even beat easy mode
Tf
She is quite nice, but I also have Myrtle
I'm trying to give him the easiest start ideas
Iing
Lee ever worth with S3M3 and upgraded module?
Uhhh
But i found mizuki start easiest , clueless
Lee can handle early floors
I think I beat easy ONCE but I don't remember who I used
I think you should just jump into normal though
Module cheapens his talent
Do normal
cause you don't unlock anything with easy
Yeah I've been trying Normal
and if a run can beat easy it can probs beat normal if you have a 3 yr old roster
I'd rather do normal and get the XP losing
I’m surprised vets can’t do is2
If you sweat it enough you’ll get used to it quickly
if you jump into it blind it's not always obvious
My problem is too many choices I think
Siege falls off hard on later stages
Will do
Main difference between them is thorns self heal
Wait e1 start ? Gavial , pluma , W is easier
Otherwise gavialt hitting for 2k+ is nice
W?
yeah thorns kinda sus wihtout e2 start
That costs like 11 hope in total right
with e2 start though it's just cheat mode
W s2 u just sleep on f1 f2
w scales good with a lot of relic
i have w and even got her skin but shes so...mediocore
I don't have W
too bad cause shes waifu material
U can borrow op for is2 start
True, I forgot that part
I have Ling
E1 start
ling is def not brainded

yeah especially if you don't start with her promoted
I mean ye
her skill 1 is weak af
Its braindead if you know how to use hee
i kmmeep trying to use a support i don't have
butr at some point i decided that starting with anybody but thorns is just suboptimal
Scene deserves more love
wait fia doesn't work well with pasta no? from memory
Hey I’m a gigachad
Trying a run with Gavialter, Orchid, and Perfumer to start
It was a decision on a whim
Giga chad is no meta unit run
Fia doesnt work afaik
But but canta is meta
Since s2 animation is too long
oofie is the opposite of a gigachad
Second pick thorns is like , u just abuse thorns
It doesnt benefit from pasta
You havent seen how little he contributed to the stages after I recruited him lmao
Enemies stat check him so hard blemi could do the same shit as him
Its kinda cringe since stuff like cutter s1 or chen/irene s3 animation take too long so that they dont get full buff from pasta
What about fuck meta unit
Is this the challenge
Ok buddy , kroos meta
Niche on gladiia seems like a stretch nowadays
She curbs early floors easily
Between Nearl, Hung, Hoshigumi, and Liskarn
Which one should I invest into?
Lisk
who should be the other defender?
I keep hearing that Hoshigumi is something to avoid among the beginner banner but she's 6*
Maybe raise a healing defender instead
I can tell help gladiia meta lane holder now
Said by totally not lolicon
gladiia omega broken with mod3 didn't help tell you
According to my quick math
Mountain is 27% more durable than gladiia
And gladiia is basically thorns
So gladiia good
damn gladiia's thorns
Real
Specter is basically mountain
same damage ngl
damn crazy
Let me take ss real quick so i can argue with ppl
fia can only use pasta on s2 if u have a crap ton of aspd relics
Gladiia can solo caster
also did you know skadi has higher damage per hit than surtr
Imma fight ppl in help now 
AH just broken beyond belief man
ashring homework
Afk real
Base on the info i get from u dalaos
Gladiia > thorns
Specter > mountain
The future is now 
some dude still believe that penace will replace mudrock or some shit
damn
according to my quick math gladiia can block 100% more enemies than chalter
u need to activate her s3 when u see the ⚠️ turn red
Gladiia also powercrept ur mom















