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Cs by default has high res anyway
i have a question about an sss strategy, for someone with a full clear
okay ask away i guess
im building a team around buffing 1 unit and i need to know how many deployment slots you have on the final stage, so that i do not overpick buffers with my initial squad and can more evenly balance my overall comp. my buff target is Eunectes, my buffers are Warfarrin, Pallas, Skalter, Aak, and Horn.
at least I think these medals show that I quality
the rest of my squad will be focused on fast redep supporters snipers and vg/g’s
around 5-7 im pretty sure
preferably you want to buff someone else
aka irene/gg
Hello some one sent me from #arknights to #off-topic then to #help now I'm here searching for guides
heres my current progress
okay yea thats a lot of atk
Nerf atk
What type of guide specifically?
just guides as of I've recently joined the server just to find guides
the problem is, I don't have eunectes so I really can't give advice on her usage and placement
How much attack and defense does big ugly thing have?
there are stages with multiple lanes (toron mine) that you cant just leave 1 op to do the work
my true “goal” is to get her to 20k attack. above picture is with only 3 buffers.
shes lvl 90 mod 3 s3 m3?
500Aspd Canta 
the problem I see is that if you want to buff her above the base +( however much attack relieving ops give), you need to buff skalter as well
maybe adding guardmiya and horn would reach 20k atk
and it is normally VERY difficult to have 2 specific ops max caster stacked WITH your buffers all on field
you need to cycle 10 casters
ouch
casters are expensive
if you didnt know
and so my guy needs vanguards on field too
why would i need 2 caster capped? only skalter right… warf and aak buffs dont scale with their stats
oh shit
eunectes is not a ranged unit
kill me
guard
defender
sorry guard stacks
gladiia + supporter cycling for casters
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ohhh sss buff
i tho normal buff
well amiya could still be used as a guard
since she serves multiple purposes
5 guard B i think
been playing the game on off for 3years and still unable to clear annih3 and I'm only lvl67 so i guess that's still new player
amiyas buff value is lower than horns, so not as worth.
so thanks for the guides
Guard stack is worse than caster stack
so tell me how eun get caster stack?
? why

Simply because melee buff usually involve vanguard instead of guard
Sp buff is valuable since you want to use skill as much as possible
i could possibly semi cheese with ranged vgs instead of casters
but my guy here doesn't want to win SSS, he wants to buff eunectes
#bot-spam is broken
i dont need to win. i just need 20000 attack
Vg stack eunectes is better tbh but also having lumen or someone behind her to block after her duration is sort of needed.
arent the question is how to reach highest atk?
and the goal 20k
Oh if highest attack its just with guard A stack eunectes with caster B stacked skalter s3 and warfarin
im pretty close already, just gotta get to the last stages to get the full assortment of units down
Lets add in Aak 
the biggest problem is getting the ops you need
already accounted for
not in the buff above probably but they already said they were gonna bring aak
Already bringing skalter caster b too?
so you probably need to bring 3-4 casters and 3-4 guards, the buff squad, eunectes herself, and a few specialists and other supporters
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you probably need some type of guard lane holder to prep for eunectes deployment
5 caster and 5 guard B
already 10 slot
have 18 left
aak, warf, skalter another 3
15 left
you dont need that many guards at the start I think
since you are kinda bound to get more anyways
specialist A would be good enough to stack buff faster
irene is my carry until later stages, and pallas is a buffer
I would say to switch one out for a vanguard
Guys I still need help 
yea thats fine, irene prefers vanguard stacks so I think switching beehunter at the start out is better
what kind of help?
maybe i can do something about it
Did Withered Knight’s charge slam always deal 4k damage or is it just TN modification?
Cc help
Started from this comment
u can also try exu buff but thats hella rng
End here
Man I remember Pyrite gorge
Back then the strats were kill Crownslayer with SA Saria S3 to slow and amp Eyja
its CS one huh
i dont remember much about that map
suzu/ange/saria or any reliable slow/sluggish source will help you a lot
Oh ye and there was ange too
Ange, SA, Eyja and Saria
Those were the core for the strat
and buffed exu or schwarz to kill cs while she got slowed
R18 didnt require buff exu yet
List of buff specifically for eunectes
Inspiration (skalter sora heidi(
Pallas s3
Guard amiya
Aak
Exu
Warfarin
Horn
Castle 3
Wait im late
Also weird question but did withered knight’s bonk attack always do 5k damage?
Only the first hit and every 4 hit after
I dont remember him hitting this hard back in the event
about hammer bro dmg...
i forgot tbh 
3 buffers
Same for corrupted knight
Lol I might have to use the fast redeploy cheese
@solid brook are you missing any
If I stun withered knight on his big hit will the counter get reset?
yes
im missing heidi but skalters attack buff is better. missing warf and 2 caster stacks for skalter
Hmm will Projekt Red be fast enough to keep stalling withered knight?
i think yes
if you have her -redeploy pot
I see
On oriental
My only amp for surtr is saria
You get free maxed gravel
My suzuran still e0
wait what
Oh right aspd buff
Trial for navigator
You don’t need an amp on surtr lol
ah that
Its trash since even goldenglow has more dps with aspd buff
She does?
or you can use perma freeze idea for hammer bro
Disclaimer
Gnosus with aspd buff can perma freeze?
Even with ×1.5 status duration, gnosis cant perma freeze without skill
So kinda 
Its pretty trash
The aspd buff is 30 aspd 10% and -200 def onto enemies
Pretty significant
hey guys
well i count in both gnosis and kjera
i have a question
Corrupted Knight’s special attack launches multiple arrows doesnt it?
sniper bro, yeah
Im thinking of spawnkilling it with Pozy
Attack 3 in range iirc
who is the best partner for ling?
How much range does mandragora range have in TN-4 spectacular trial? It seems they buff her range and also life point deduction
Ksalter
Also all boss instant kill if you leak
guys?
idk
if u ask me, i usually go with camo idea
cycling fw with april
while asbes s1 and medic hold him
well that my 5* only strat tho for sniper bro
while hammer bro
cycling sham doll and red with blocker and healer
It feels like there's very little deployable tiles to burst Crownslayer from at the beginning of TN-4
Yes
Hmm I'm kinda having a hard time on her 2nd form since the pilar in TN-4 kinda useless (or I'm too low Brain to figure it out)
They buff the cooldown of her blink
But what i did i just
Cantabile the tile below
Patriot is pretty simple even without mines
Then wildmane + nearl
he literally sits for a good while
@turbid badge hmm
How to bait the boss to drop a rock on himself
But then Mephisto comes out along with possessed soldiers
@normal sand borrow GG, hyper charge her with sp device
Crownslayer sometimes gets stuck on NTRK on the first tile of the map, though not sure how to replicate that
Oh yeah i forgot she exists
Well I just scuffed my way through despite completely forgetting Mandragora's mechanics
@surreal relic its because she has "short blink" that basically make her unblockable
But not teleport
Does anybody have a link to a Nian+gavial combo? does gavialter just die? her passive makes her tankier each blocked right
nian??
i dont have her
where did you see nian?
@turbid badge yea +block and defense aoe thing + gavialter s3
did you check my roster?
oh i was replying to other person
i see
I mean CS gets stuck onto NTRK and can't dash over her, letting NTRK attack over the full duration of her S2
yea it makes her tankier per each enemy she blocks
@turbid badge shes gonna block 6 in total, is these feasible or she just dies without 2-3 healers
eune will basically 2 shot her, and with pallas behind she wont get to blink
@surreal relic is it because she teleport into the "unwalkable tile"
Theres one tile you can deploy ops but enemeis cant walk
What are u using this for?
@turbid badge no I'm just a new player from this event, and just like gavialter a lot, considering either Nian or Dusk to spark
Ohhh
(You shouldnt spark)
ive got enough cycle now, just gotta make sure i grab a few extra low blockers because some of my shuffle units are very low level
No vanguard?
sail
guys
You can do the calcs
Increases ATK and DEF by 12% (+2%), increased by a further 5% (+1%) for each blocked enemy
6 enemies
4 guards 
no one here help me?
I'm aware, I just haven't figured out the timing yet
its not nothing major but it does help her tank i guess since it also gives def
i made it to stage 4 so far
talking about nian skill s3
that's a shitton of stats 
@turbid badge yeah I'm just wondering if she just melts blocking 6 people, I thought people would atleast have 1 YT video, i've searched and can't find
...
well
lul
nian gotta take all the W she can get
can you do it
Yeah
thanks!
guys
xdd
yeah that's for sure
she bleeds after the duration
well
I have 5+ months to ponder
Aaaaaa
He leaked
@wind silo try that, maybe it will work for ya
May is just jessica (replace)
ned help pls
i think you forgot to use the stun device
What is it?
At this point, you could E2 lappland
E2 Lappland and M3 your operators, after that, you can E2 Skadi, but be aware thst she needs Modules for being good
Fartooth is also another option for E2, seeing you already E1 her
i see
lappland > schwarz > lumen > fartooth
Hmmmmmmm
Wait i probably could add a gladiia to DPS them
Wait let me strat this
no. schwarz is one of the best tank busters. lumen has status cleanse and will be your best medic. fartooth will cover your other general sniper needs
Very good general use healer
holup did you use guardmiya
You don't have her right 
I haven't got her Mann 


you want lappland e2 for the 7 second passive silence @sudden coral
What lvl is your Gladiia btw
I'll do that tomorrow
Lappland dps still very relevant today
Maybe I can use 1 from support
I use supports
Eka 
lul
I mean there's no gladiia in my rooster pic right
Well this actually makes it a lot more a easier


Btw does the singer release poison gas if u damage it too much in egg phase?
Welfare support only
Got it

Nope
Aite, nice
@frigid kite go, mald for my sake
Actually you can break the egg but it will spawn with 50% hp
Thats good enough
why clifheart is e1 isntead of gladia
Gladiia is ranged guard with aoe skill, why not raise
amazing
Hello need help for these anni
Trying to 400/400 all of them before reset
Which ops should i use for each anni? Thank you!
https://imgur.com/a/PJsN2X5
lul
dont worry, those anni will come back, probably Ling can the almost thing on South Prison alone
Trying to clear them all coz I'm at 256/300 for gavial banner
dont think they will give u enough for 40 pulls, u better holding off for future banners
I've only 400'd Chernobog...
It feels funny to say this but im kinda scared of what crownslayer will do in TN4
converting OP to Oredum might be more easier than that tbh
if e0 can do it so can you
@near folio after you complete basic, every other difficulty is easy
Even ultimate
Simply because kazimier is too broken
1 down.
Do you like
im thinking things through right now
Oh massive stat check from gargoyle lol
gargoyles are not an issue
wowa
hmm
Trying to force hellagur be like:
¯_(ツ)_/¯
machine destroys itself
im scared
@wind silo
Ansel likes to die, don't let him die 
I also used a non module gladiia, not sure how much difference will have
What is killing my ops immediately after 1st mephesto phase is over in TN-4?
u should be
@turbid badgey
jk i was messing with you, but the last stage its kinda rough
mephisto DoT dmg?
The fog last for 30s iirc
And each tick stack separately
So if you nuke him, your ops take like 500 true dmg per sec
Or like 1000 in ultimate
and cannot be nullified by he simply dying
unless his p2 dot
At least you can attack him while in egg form
That help a lot
Since you have less,mob threat
You can focus bursting him
If you Nuke 2nd phase, fog is gone
I nuked his 1st phase and all my ops just died immediately
Easy solution
Nuke then wait
Instead of deploying your lane holder first
Mob are slow
Attacking his shield damages me?
you can nuke them and retreat all ops
Yup, on TN-4 the bird will appear first and the enemies spawn a bit later
is the buff in ultimate trial big?
i guess you should read mephisto description first
If I damaged him slower would that help?
Feels the same, some enemies are a bit tankier and Mandrágora will do 2k per tick 
I could bait damage with monster
good to know
mephisto fog apply the whole map
and will dmg every deployed operator
Oh and there are more enemies on Ultimate
Holy shit, 4 stages
Looks like hell if u dont have kal tsit
And we have to fight mandra as well wtf
I hate that boss the most
Actually
NTR could probably kill mandra
why didn’t i think kal was good here
ic
You practicall cant block crownslayer
Strat to kill all 4 bosses: NTR
hope my dumb strat still works then
The fart is much deadlier so that you cant use lane holder
Mandra always use laser
And i see no difference with patriot

You also get 1 less pillar in ultimate
Oh yea
Patriot reduce spear cooldown
But i dont use range
ah

same
Tbh for patriot dont u just insta kill him with ntr?
Nearl wildmane
like with s3?
S3 should work too
ntr can 1 cycle him ?
For 2nd phase use surtr as well
yeah
Surtr can tank
the 3rd squad is wat everyone goes with?
Kazimier + aspd buff
Is the easier
i just pick 2nd bcs mudrock
true
steps, now
I didnt use mudrock in tn4 ultimate tho
I feel that 2nd gets screwed by Patriot and Mandra
They rely too much on phys and arts
Well, you start with Vanilla on Beagle's place, put Melantha 2 tiles down, wait for dp and put amiya looking up, after Amiya Ansel and then Kroos
pozy still good in ultimate?
I would imagine she is
You meant fang
I got no vanilla
Anyway
Yea
Pozy good for cracking the egg too
Wow
Pozy is nice for CS memphisto and mandra
ic
Pozy is just out of range to camp mandragora
well gonna go do a run then
wait thorn
dont ler crownslayer bite
This team works or is it not worth bringing warf?
he don’t get cucked here right?
After kroos Gladiia and that's it for the beggining, now just bait CS jump so Melantha (with skill on) can dps on her, let Fang tank and hit a bit CS and after it jumps her (or kills her, in which case replace her for any of your defenders) use Gladia S3
And everything else is up to you
Oops
if it were@me ill bring a Aoe medic
@near folio wildmane s1 and nearl s2, also run aspd buff
wat would be a good filler
After that, now that CS is dead (or pretty close) just use S3 on the big wraiths and that's it

Slowing enrage possessed and sniping mandragora/gargoyle
Hmm but ntr s2 is only phys, is it really that good for ultimate?

Oh and put lava after the crossbow stuners are dead and the first wraiths appear
is whislash still shit or should i actually use her to buff?
Kazimier buff ignore defense and res for 20s after deploy or use skill
Oh
Whislash good now because of kazimier buff
ah
Whislash buff blem nicely
She's angry omg
And i like running helidrop instead of lane holder
Thorns take too much time and doesnt contribute enougu
Yeah
TN seems to have less emphasis on lasting long
Rather just kill the baws as fast as possible
Well there are some times you can wait your characters cd
Like the bird, he'll take a long ride until the last tile
The issue is how you gonna heal your laneholders against mephisto
Actually one healer should be enuf if you space out your damage
Hmm

She dies
just take the squad with offensive recovery

She dies irl
blemi permasleeping with defensive recovery
first try thx guys
basic trial right?
Theres no way you can do ultimate with e0
Since boss has bloated hp
since i will likely have to kill each gargoyle 1 by 1
i assume thats the CM
and you would be right
0 way i can DPS that shit
wat op are u using to kill mandra
in ultimate the laser even kills my mudrock
Patriot is like 5s?
sadge
And mandragora has laser on every attack
lmao
i hate those kind of stat check
but for mandra
i just dps
2 pillar
and some dps
is enough
Mandra is annoying boss because of her dmg reduction 
i suck at pillar
your fault for being bad at pillar tho
:clueless:
First pillar is annoying too. Need heavy shooter, pusher or aoe caster to attack first pillar, else they will attack Mandra when she gets in attack range 
Skill issue. Can't relate 
you know
wait
you know
But manage to clear it without any retry
Yes
Wait face down ?
I thought they won't attack the pillar if it's not directly in front of your op ?
Like drop SA but not face to the pillar then he won't attack that pillar ?
they dont have to face it, but they do have to be right next to it
if you face SA sideways from the pillar he will attack it
but only
if he is right next to it
Oh
I've been doing it wrong since beginning 

Mfw
Anyway, Kamizier ops are too cancer in this TN 
Patriot: 10 seconds each phase without any buff
Me when wildmane outdps surtr
true damage wildmane moment
Can chalter spawncamp ex8-cm boss by herself?
Even with Suzu, she can't
In cm no
It's 15k hp more and 200 def more iirc
I was pretty shocked when the boss had ~50% hp left with Chalter Suzu 
Are u done TN with E0 yet ?
Whoa didn't even check thermal ex before ,%10 fragile and free dynamite for 3 dp, op
It's 30% isn't it?
it is based on how much sauce you have on him, and all my nukers 3:50 are cutter
And all my robot tags are kroos out
At max pot yeah
Depend on pot lol
I thought you must get robot tag for robot op ?
robot tag is skyrocket of chance, but all my cross outs land on them as well 
I always try for thermal ex if i get specialist
I wouldn't mind doing 1 hour recruitment 200 times for those robots if i knew it sooner 
why 3:50 tho?
I think since there are no specialist lower than 4*, if tag doesn't cross-out, thermal ex is guaranteed?
I gain like 2 or 2.5 gravels on weekly basis, sadly 3 year recap didn't clarify on amount of pots you gained
I'd like tips for SSS Toron Mine last level
Is it possible to beat IC EX 8 with this team~
Do you have shamare
Yes
Unfortunately no
Since e1
Ohh alright
@reef mulch can you select shamare from selector
I have my Shamare at E2
Because I used
The ticket~
also lappy wrong skill
Ohh alright
Can't. I also can't borrow her as support unit since I've used Gnosis to cheese the 6th level
What supporter do you run
3 is stupid and i refuse to do it
And do you have kaltsit
Oh I mean Gnosis is my support
4 is being worked on
And yeah I got Kal'tsit
I run two supporters, Gnosis and Skalter, and the class is set to the one where you can choose 1 of 4 ops upon deployment
I have her but she's only at E240
My strat for boss is just
Block with mon3tr
And use chalter s3 when it come in her range
Boss has extremely high atk
But attack slow af
So mon3tr high hp pool can tank long enough that you can use kaltsit skill
Where didya place all 3?
And it has fast cooldown, the stage doesnt have much tile to deploy
Uh
Can you like
Post the map
Since im on mobile cant screenshot it

No
If you have e2 ops
I’m able to like
You can borrow
Thanks
You can if you want
Shes a nice unit anyway
But ex8 is a 1 time clear
You can copy pozy strat
prob should later
but for now just borrow maxed
make ur life ez

bruh
It decided to just take the shortest path to the blue box for some reason
Blood Knight would be proud
Will we have third chance to spawn kill minimalist in S stages as well?
Most likely
that happened to me a lot of times
that reaper just dont want to die

Btw what happens if I have 3 of the same class in my friend support? That would mean the game has to pick only 1 of them to be seen, right?
shows multiple iirc
unless they changed it
but I remember friend sharing saga while having zima on 5* share slot
and it showed both
Must be specific to the 5* and 6* of the same class
Rather than 2 6* of the same class
But thats good to know
That means i can share both Cantabile and Bagpipe if need be
only way to find out is to test with someone from your friendlist 
Hardest challenge - have friend 

Wtf you can only use ranged units to knock pillars onto mandra
That’s almost impossible
I guess brute force is the only way
Only lord guards
The way they mapped this, its only possible for lord guards to hit them
Or instructor for the bottom one
only ops adjacent to the pillars can hit them, so lords don't have an advantage over other ops
only Dobermann or Pallas can hit it because the cursed modules that allowsthem to be deplooyed on high ground
Guess I’ll have to brute force mandra
her 2nd phase have a move that makes her drop a pillar onto an op
Amiya S3 can chunk out 50% of her phase 2 hp
Then the rest I just pray I have enough firepower
and u can bait it so she drops it on herself 
Oh
How reliable is it?
Like will she use it the instant something drops in pillar range?
Or will she wait for her laser attack to finish?
its like a 10 second delay after she enters phase 2 and uses it every 15 seconds i think
I see
Shift gang gaming lez goooo
So its unrealistic to use that as well
Mandra is still what i consider a toxic boss that never loses its ass-age no matter how strong you get. She belongs with FN, EB, and EoE in that regard
Playwright too if they bothered to make him stay on a LOT of bantiles
Mandra is flying chapter 10 slime armed with beam cannon because fuck you
Design of bosses is literally "how we screw player over this time"
isn't it kinda hilarious that I haven't even included Tal in my list because she actually loses a lot of her dangerousness with stronger options/ops
Most bosses: I am too dangerous to block/ignore blocking
Talulah: I will kill those civilians, i double dare you
Skadi can solo Talu with Gladiia now 
Tal in JT8-3 instead: I'm in danger
If you rush story with 1-2 OP unit you are one in danger 
Like when i reached it i was just trashed
And then i realized my now moduled Ptilo can heal talulah blocker in bottom left (I rushed blocking her here for personal bias) from middle
Tal is indeed a huge heal wall
You can ignore so much healing in story
until Tal....
And then i realize Chalter face just eats fireball while Ptilo S2ing
I was fast redeploy baiting, don't recommend 
We're just getting more and more options to bully Tal in JT8-3
until it's dethroned in Aketon farm
I am not good at long malding
I really hope that cc being feb3 is true
I get to finally do story

I wanna experience this talulah that people speak of
Feb 3 is date when IC should end, i doubt they will back to back into CC
we've gotten announcement of CC10
Eh fair
Trials end on 3rd, IC ends on 3rd
incoming dead week before CC10 because fuck you we are 20 events behind schedule we can afford it 
but if they don't do a cc right after this then the "early february" announcement will be false
Reward claiming last 2
How does it end on the same day as IC
Bruhe lmao
Well you say that
But yostar can extend the “early feb” to anytime earlier than 15 feb
February 28th is earlier than 29th 
and if event ends 3rd of february
and they do an insta-event without dead week

that's already feb 10th
And we are fucking 1 rerun 1 mini event and 1 full event behind schedule
week
Mini/rerun 10 days iirc
I don't think there will be any dead week after IC
Some dead hours at best
Good old times
but didn't cc10 in cn have dorothy
It isn't the first time
Well good news we don't get that because Moduled Snipers and Dorothy sucks in CC10 perma stage anyway
Tested out Exuwarf vs Archwarf on this boss
Archwarf needs SA S3 to match exuwarf solo
A friend asked me
exu hits like what
Bcs he didnt have anyone but arch
6 times in one hit
while archetto barely gets any atk boost and hits only 3 times
So i did
She does better in places where exu would fall flat
I don't even use her S3 that much
I'm addicted to her S1

I just use
Chalter exe
Snipers rarely ever used
Honestly idk why i even build arch
She's just hot

TRUE
when do we even get it again
Its not a bug if you treat it as a feature
no it's positively impacting the playerbase thus it's most definitely a bug
it's only a feature if it's negatively impacting one's enjoyment
Exu aspd pot actually carried my darknights memoir
B4 i took an extra hit from a grudgebearer, but with aspd pot it dies before it does the extra hit
🙏
Potgated real !!!
Gonna sue hg for making dm whale event /s
Rip 2x recruitment text speed
When does global get that

also how does trust affect buffs, if lv90 exu has 540 atk and gets a warfarin buff
is it 540*1.9+trust
or is it (540+trust)*1.9
Ask khold or smth idk
this
trust count as base stats
so on deployment pot1 and with warfarin, e2 90 exu with full trust has 1320 atk
I can test
Oh wait
Mine is pot4
you should read the mechanics sheet
no chetto's base atk is lower than exu
Copium
Chetto is cute and has multi target
so it's no surprise that in your testing for friend exu completely outdps'd chetto
cause she... honestly probably literally just does 2x more damage
Chalter still beats dogs up, Pozy beats in single target
yeah, top 3 ops are surtr, mlynar and chalter
Yeah pretty much
Inb4 he build arch anyway
I built Kroos alter over Exu 
i built ash over exu
and later i also built exu 
Jessica is my first trust 200%.... I forgot her as main base assistant for 3 months
||I want to marry fang😔||
mine was surtr 
Bro got the cheat sheet





