r-i-i-c

[arctic prism]

no 1% per

[mossy moat]

brethren

[arctic prism]

so lv1 dorm is gonna be +1%

[mossy moat]

nah im good lol

252 office2 rr2

is 243 generally more profitable, comparatively?

[arctic prism]

nop 252 is

[mossy moat]

i hear alot of ppl claim this

okay thats what i thought. alright

[arctic prism]

yea it's just misinfo spread from early days

when you look at the numbers it's just objectively false

[mossy moat]

i remember there was that whole drama a few years back, then peteryr debunked pretty much instantly

[arctic prism]

ye

[mossy moat]

thats why upon hearing this i was like uh??

but yea, thnx for the helps cho

[arctic prism]

npnp lol

[mossy moat]

scifi used to be my lord n saviour when it came to base, but he doesnt play anymore so ya:( lmao

[vestal sable]

my current base on 243

[arctic prism]

ye unfortunately a lot of the old timers gone mia

[vestal sable]

if i shift to 252

right is if i wanna keep the lv 3 tps max lmd output since lmd is my priority now anyway

[arctic prism]

yea seems about right

[mossy moat]

so by and large just better yea

[vestal sable]

like the scenario where 243 would be more efficient would have to be uh

[mossy moat]

hey is purestream base skill capped? or can it go to 3 tp

scale off*

[vestal sable]

having multiple 3 man teams that are so much more efficient than the 2 man teams on the same acc that they outweigh the extra 100% production from a 3rd factory

im too lazy to calculate a hypothetical scenario where that's possible, if one exists

[arctic prism]

yea anywhere from ~+50% fac worst case to ~+200% fac best case

[arctic prism]

it doesnt
3 there arent enough 3 man high end teams

to make up the +100% differential

[vestal sable]

yea

like even stuff like mizuki, rhine and bryo still work almost as well as 2 man teams anyway

dedicated 3 man teams are like uh

vermeil bubble weedy

yea no that's it

lmao

[arctic prism]

it's pretty much just vermeil team and bubble team

weedy works better in lv2 honestly

[vestal sable]

post snegu i mean

[arctic prism]

even post snegu she's just 30%

[vestal sable]

yea ig fair

well

45%

3rd PP

(assuming we're comparing weedy in lv 2 in a 252 vs weedy in a 243)

[arctic prism]

isnt it just 30% even in 3pp setup?

[vestal sable]

weedy gains + 15% per PP

[arctic prism]

oh thats what you meant

but yea still

the only endgame base team used out of these is weedy so gives you +15% back out of the 100 lol
arguably +10% since you're forced to use snegu when you could probably use a 35% worker in her place if weedy team was in lv2 fac

[vestal sable]

yea its 115-130% in 243 at lv 3
lv 2 in a 252 would be 70-85%

thats about the biggest u can get but u can also just at that point ditch bubble/vermeil team or put either on the 2nd shift of the lv 3 factories (u get at least 2 lv 3s even with right side maxed)

and just run weedy in one of the lv 3s

[mossy moat]

so uh

i dont think whispy needs e2 for +50% rosmontis, atleast according to aceship.

[arctic prism]

?

[mossy moat]

but when i put rosmo in fac w E1 whispy in office, rosmo only gets +30%

[arctic prism]

yea she needs e2 lol

p sure her PI skill unlocks at e2

[mossy moat]

shit wait ur right lol

yea, also uh. so you just rotate rosmo w whisp every 24h?

[arctic prism]

oh got confused bc of the memory fragment thing

[mossy moat]

yes

[arctic prism]

yea just sync them up with the rest of your suis

bc dusk/ling is providing the last 10%

[mossy moat]

yep

thnx again

[arctic prism]

also for this in 252 you definitely put weedy in lv2 fac just alone with purestream (assuming greyy alt)

unless you lack 30+% workers

then ig you can put her in with sneg in lv3

and yea bubble team is def first to get ditched
vermeil team also gets ditched later on too

[mossy moat]

rosmo is only giving +40% now with e2 whispy and dusk ling in cc

[arctic prism]

oh right you're office 2

[mossy moat]

bruh

[arctic prism]

mb LOL

[mossy moat]

🤦‍♀️

[arctic prism]

so many people are max right i completely forgot

[mossy moat]

welp atleast i got a e2 whispy out of this

lmaooooo

[arctic prism]

40% worker still p good

[mossy moat]

yeeeeeeeeeeeeee

ROI: 69 years

massive w

[arctic prism]

but mulberry might be more worth lmao
Altho ig now that i think about it she's also just gonna be +10% tp too so

[mossy moat]

im laughing atm lol

nah im g man lol

lemme pay whispy off, then after ak2 comes out ill finally pay it off and e2 mul

[arctic prism]

lmao

[vestal sable]

ok yea fair, in a 252 its 115 vs 85% for lv 3 vs lv 2 so it depends on the other workers u have

[arctic prism]

yep

[vestal sable]

im just missing like half of the higher than 30% ones anyway

so might as well use them as my 3 man team

[mossy moat]

hey rly stupid question: if i dont do the clue stuffs, do operators' mood drain in rr?

[arctic prism]

you probably capped out your clues so no

but even if it did it's fine

just let them die

[mossy moat]

yea ya mentioned bonus still counts so im chillin

[knotty herald]

Dang it i realized i kinda cooked my base by putting an office

252 but my TR cant be lvl 3

[vestal sable]

it can be

if u have the reception room and office at lower levels, let me know and i can give u a config that works for u

[knotty herald]

fr? currently 520/540 and i need 30 power for LVL 3 TR?

left side all lvl 3

[vestal sable]

so lv 1 reception room lv 1 office yea

sec

[knotty herald]

am i supposed to downgrade a TP?

if i want to run a 252 with TR3?

[vestal sable]

either a tp or a factory yea

u have 20 spare power as well so 2 of the dorms can go to lv 2

[knotty herald]

wait am i not supposed to build an office?

[vestal sable]

u are supposed to

the "intended" base layout is 243 but 252 even with some facilities at lv 2 is more efficient

[vestal sable]

so just either downgrade a tp (most efficient overall if u have proviso) or downgrade a factory and u have everything else there

[knotty herald]

aighty

ill downgrade a tp cuz i have an e2 proviso

[vestal sable]

u can either upgrade 2 dorms to lv 2 or upgrade the office to lv 2 (prob the office is better cuz that gives u more tag refreshes)

[arctic prism]

huh

office levels dont give you more tag refreshes unless you're talking about like once every however many months when they decide to update recruitment pool

[vestal sable]

oh

office gives more slots right

i gaslit myself

[arctic prism]

yeye

[vestal sable]

ig reception room is better then

[arctic prism]

tbh id just level up dorm with any extra power

but honestly that last bit of power can be used however you want ig

just that having one high level dorm is nice in the long long term where you're dealing with dorm workers

but also nice in case you ever decide you want to do more high effort rotations

and it's reversible

[crude inlet]

i usually just change shifts once per day is it bad to do it that way

also i think i am in need of quite a bit of lmd

[vestal sable]

its fine to do it that way ig, if u login more than once per day tho, u might be able to squeeze more out of the first team by swapping only when they get low and swapping back when morale is up (which is why them being more efficient would be optimal)

also

[heavy palm]

i wish we could downgrade right side stuff

my account feels bricked with a lvl 3 RR

[queen flicker]

just a small nitpick, why not show phonor-0 with logos in TR in pudding team? it's 25% pp

[fresh seal]

The Shamare, Tequila and Bibeak team for a TP LVL 3 is still the best combo in high productivity?

[rigid plume]

Proviso is the best

This trio is second best.

[fresh seal]

I'm using her in a lvl 2, just got Fiammetta so she will be on the TP 24/7

[rigid plume]

That's good.

And still Teq/Sham/Booster is just second best TP team you can find.

So feel free to use that.

[fresh seal]

One thing I'm wondering is if it's possible to use Fiammetta's ability in Proviso every 24 hours instead of every 12 hours and do another rotation with a different operator every 12 hours

[hasty tiger]

You can maintain shamare/tequila/proviso all 24/7 with fia

Assuming your control center keeps them alive >36h

[vestal sable]

does this involve a 2nd bibeak unit (paprika/diamante) to cover for her own downtime?

[hasty tiger]

You'd need someone that can go there yeah

My setup uses poz/bibeak swapping back and forth

[fresh seal]

I don't think I can, since I don't have that many ops because it's a very new account https://www.krooster.com/u/roshar

[hasty tiger]

It's not a super big deal unless like above you had a replacement for bibeak anyway so it's probably just fine to be cycling prov + your best other op

Something to look forward to in the future maybe. Having fia at all is the biggest part of the shenanigans

[remote bison]

gold was almost deleted so in the factory layout of 33322, i assigned 3gold2exp and theres only so much i can do with ~60% exp on lvl2

nothing a 8m LMD and 500k exp cant cover me up especially there arent too much ops to raise nowadays

[pallid isle]

still on my way to e2 all ops

and even then i can do that while raising all the new stuff

i wish my lmd looked like that lol

idk what to do to make it look like that though

even cursed only nets 70K average for me

but i also am running out of gold as well so

not much i can do anyway

me after yesterday having to again emergency drone other stuff

[pallid isle]

i mean i can kinda understand the idea of wanting to run more gold in the other factory slots but how/are you running automation team then?

because its not that good in a 3 slot really

[remote bison]

huh what

[pallid isle]

probably just misunderstood

your doing automation in one of the level 2's

and exp in one of the level 2's ?

[strong summit]

I'm still a little undecided on what to do with my base
I'm on 252-2311 atm. TR is a mandatory 3 in the future so that's a given. I'm now in doubt if I go 2333 or 3323

If I understood correctly the choice is between more slots and faster roll on Recruitment vs third friend supp slot and clue op slot, right?

[arctic prism]

office levels do not increase recruitment reroll speed. the only thing office levels do is increase the number of recruitments you can do simultaneously, which isn't a real benefit due to not needing more than 2 slots to keep up with the monthly recruitment permit income

and the value of RR3 (friend slots, extra support unit) is ultimately up to you but if you're speaking from a sanity value perspective, that third level of RR is better spent on leveling another factory to 3

2313 is a commonly recommended layout, due to being able to have the entire left side except 1 tp or 1 factory at lv3, while keeping all dorms at lv1

[strong summit]

Doesn't it open one more op slot? In the way that having one more contact speed op would make refresh faster

[arctic prism]

nope you only get one worker at all times regardless of office level

[strong summit]

Damn...it does even less thn I imagined

[arctic prism]

yeah it's a complete waste of power

[strong summit]

I think I'm going with 33322-3313 just for the peace of mind of not having that incomplete Texas mission on the menu

[arctic prism]

if I were you id just stay on 2311 until you feel like you want to do masteries, then just downgrade a tp to 2 (assuming owning e2 proviso by that point of the game) + upgrade tr to 3
outside of leaving tr not upgraded, 2313 is widely considered optimal layout, along with 1313 + upgrading some dorms

yeah that's up to you

[strong summit]

I'm already running the first mastery for Saki and Ho2hi. And i want to put the base on it's final form asap

I don't have Proviso tho, I was thinking of leaving two gold factories at 2. Feels like I always have more gold thn sales anyway

[arctic prism]

yeah that's fine

[wind otter]

100%, besides, the faster you complete base then the sooner you can start to regret it

@orchid bane

[manic basin]

The problem with that is the Guide posts tells you to upgrade the Reception to lvl 3 inorder to collect the Texas Operator reward.

[distant flower]

How do you guys do 2-5-2?...is 2-4-3 not ok?

[wicked canopy]

243 has lower production than 252, that's all

you can check the pins for guides on setting up a 252 base

[arctic prism]

yeah I'm aware
it's just that you're going to end up getting her eventually regardless in the long run + there are too many ops that do her job but better that are also easy to acquire

[arctic prism]

which is why vault is saying this^

[arctic prism]

by opting in to 243 over 252 you lose out on anywhere from +50~150 free factory%

[manic basin]

Yeah i am still doing the 252 setup but i already build Reception to lvl 3 and office to lvl 2 before i realized optimally you shouldn't invest in office at all.

[arctic prism]

yea most people (myself included) got baited by the guide quests + misinfo spread from early years and ended up maxing out right side of base

we're just here to prevent any further damage for new players lol

[wind otter]

and get no gratitude in return

[arctic prism]

[wind otter]

whenever someone says they expected more slots when upgrading reception I just know they came from Endfield

[arctic prism]

lol yea

[wind otter]

"started original arknights for three weeks now and credit shop STILL hasn't given me orundum, can you believe it?!"

[arctic prism]

did someone actually say that?

[wind otter]

nah, that one I just feel like it must have been said in some dark corner of the internet

[vestal sable]

I'd welcome this change tbh

[jaunty notch]

because that team is gathering cobwebs and dust which i don't want to clean lmfao

[rose knoll]

Pudding has been powercrept like 5 times lol

[fresh seal]

Is this timer the amount of time the operator works until their morale reaches 0?

[silent nova]

Depends

Factory iirc is like min(time to fill, time to empty morale), tp is just time to empty morale

[orchid bane]

What ?

[strong summit]

Specifically for my case I don't care about Texas, I care about forever having the incomplete mission on my menu, that's why eventually I'm going with Right 3313 and F333(exp)22(gold)

[arctic prism]

[arctic prism]

in case you were curious, the repercussions of this action is roughly equivalent to -5~6 gold bars/day or 2000~2400 exp/day every day forever

[strong summit]

A small price for my irl sanity

[arctic prism]

🫡

[wind otter]

proof of life

[strong summit]

I'm doing this out of sympathy for the elders who also locked their base out of full optimization 🫡

[orchid bane]

Just let me rip in peace man

[wind otter]

mother theresa of calcutta was a tit sucking baby compared to your sainthood, I salute you brother and your selfless sacrifice

[wind otter]

no can't do, I have money running on this information

[arctic prism]

man I never thought about this until now but we really just locked ourselves out of 15~20M exp by maxing right

and that number continues to grow every day

thinking from that line of thought 243-ers lose productivity at 2x of that rate so anyone who stuck with 243 from day 1 just threw 30~40M exp down the drain

or in other words, since everyone that ever visits here is always obsessed with lmd and lmd only, the equivalent of like 35~50M lmd worth of gold bars

[eternal gyro]

This is weird, im putting May (Marksmen) in training room, and the training time is 5:07 hours left (without trainer). Then i put logos, and it becomes 4.50 hours.

Iogos shouldnt affect training time directly since he boost only Caster & Supporter, right?

[eternal gyro]

Oh yaaa, thx for pointing that out..

[wind otter]

yeah, but then 243 with its unlimited credit gains balances things out

[craggy topaz]

Hello i need like 2 million lmd is this fine so far to farm it?
3 factories are producing gold n one is producing xp

[arctic prism]

you're 100% going to run out of gold like that

[craggy topaz]

I can set another one to gold tho

[arctic prism]

just so i have a point of reference how old is your account?

if you're acc is years old and you're a vet that stopped caring about exp for one reason or another like never going to level another unit evera gain, you're free to do whatever you want

but if that's not the case, speaking from a long term perspective, deleting your exp production is going to come back to bite you

[pale yoke]

https://tenor.com/view/w-arknights-gone-gif-23126706

[stoic agate]

just found out that i cant downgrade this shit

[astral tiger]

welcome to the bricked account gang

[stoic agate]

took me 3 years to

muster enough of a shit to look at my base

just to realise it has been bricked for 3 years

beautiful

[astral tiger]

well, at least office aint maxed, so u have some spare power

[stoic agate]

is it like

a huge handicap

[astral tiger]

a right maxed 252 is still better than a 243

it's just worse than a non right-maxed 252

[stoic agate]

by how much of a margin

[astral tiger]

not too much tbh

[stoic agate]

good enough ig

[astral tiger]

in the end depends on the units u have

[stoic agate]

my base has been essentially non functional for 3 years

[astral tiger]

dawg 😭

[stoic agate]

makes like 5k lmd a week if i pray hard enough

[astral tiger]

u can up that to 60k per day if u have the right workers

[stoic agate]

i was going to

turn it into a 252

i still need to read up on the guide a bit

[astral tiger]

for now u should get two of your power plants to lvl 3

remove a power plant for a factory and add another factory

finish your setup first before worrying about proper teams

also max out your cc

yeah u got a lot of work to do lol

will take time but you got this

[stoic agate]

will take a while to fix it

[astral tiger]

yeah like around a week

[stoic agate]

i would upgrade the cc but i got hit with this

[astral tiger]

cuz of drones

[astral tiger]

yeah u need to max your left side

[astral tiger]

do these two things first

as for your final setup, both of your tps should be lvl 3 (if you have proviso u can keep one at lvl 2)

and as many lvl 3 facs with remaining power

[stoic agate]

just upgraded one of them to level 3 but now im drone gated

[astral tiger]

I think u should have 3 lvl 3 facs? not sure

[astral tiger]

yeah drones are the main issue

I'd say stack up on the building mats

dont wanna be gated by those

unless you already have enough

[stoic agate]

not sure if i have enough let me check rq

should be safe i think?

or is it insufficient 🥹

[astral tiger]

gotta math it out

lemme check the conversions

[stoic agate]

just checked, i have proviso maybe its not so bad after all

[astral tiger]

so 3 lvl 3 facs for u

[stoic agate]

ig

not sure how much energy im missing out on because of the office and reception room

[astral tiger]

5 lvl 3 buildings + cc + cleaning last debris u will need 37 of the highest tier

u have 6

9 of the blue ones

welp time to check if those 283 are enough

[stoic agate]

hopefully 😭

[astral tiger]

ok at least u have enough blue ones

31 highest tier blocks which will give 15

so u are missing 16 of the blocks

[stoic agate]

to the mines i go

[astral tiger]

the amount will be lower based on how lucky u get with by products

so start converting with the correct ops

[stoic agate]

ive been converting with ceylon

[astral tiger]

her skill doesn't work with base mats

use someone with same skill icon as shaw

or the triangle ones, rangers has 60% I think

[stoic agate]

those will do ig

[astral tiger]

do u have blaze? she has 80% byproduct chance with building mats

tho I think it needs e2

[stoic agate]

dont have her unfortunately

[astral tiger]

amen

use leon and poncirus then

[stoic agate]

kaltits seems good for this too

[astral tiger]

I don't have her, so not sure about her skill

[astral tiger]

oh if u have a lot of ops with low morale, arene is the best

4* guard

[stoic agate]

doesnt seem to work for base mats though

unless thats locked behind e1?

[astral tiger]

ok yeah nvm

[astral tiger]

I'd just do it with leon and pon cuz they are 75

you're not exactly in a rush rn

[stoic agate]

fair enough

forgot to thank you for the help really appreciate it

[astral tiger]

np, glad to be able to help

[dire matrix]

243 if i swap one factory for originium, should i go for 2 metal 1 exp or 1 metal 2 exp?

[frank cipher]

either way, if got spare gold to burn go 2 exp

[astral tiger]

if u have a good gold team then 1 will suffice

[strong summit]

I was thinking about
F333(exp) 22(gold)
Or would it be better
F332(exp) 32(gold)?

[winged tundra]

Wtf running firewhistle as tequila substitute with fiametta is so op

Extra 10 hours

[astral tiger]

depends on what u need more

also your teams

if u have bryo combo, lvl 3 gold fac is imp

also if you're droning proviso u will need 3 gold facs to make up for her consumption

[orchid bane]

Wind chimes have the same E0 skill

[distant flower]

Wait what?…I have bryo in a lvl 3 factory tho

[astral tiger]

isn't that what I said

bryo in lvl 3

[distant flower]

“Is imp”

[astral tiger]

imp = important

[distant flower]

I assumed you meant “is impossible”

Ah…

[astral tiger]

no 😭

his combo gives him an extra 5% prod for each metalwork skill in the fac

so he needs to be in a lvl 3 for max bonus

that's what I meant basically

[strong summit]

(Sensitive content)

[wind otter]

It's like watching someone get a face tattoo in real time

[pallid isle]

whats more op is running glasglow and forever cursing tequilla and proviso

all those fia refreshes

but yeah i used to do the same

firewhistle is nice once in a while

[orchid bane]

Improper

[lyric igloo]

How bads the morale generation on 243 vs 253

[orchid bane]

they are both 3 PP so morale generation is all good. Oh wait. 5 fac and 2 TP should take energy from droms. Lemme think again

I think you are talking about 252. level 1 dorm is good enough for 12hr shift
Level 5 dorm if you want 5-6hr full morale

[brisk dust]

Vermeil is worth E1 for base, right?

[strong summit]

(hyper sensitive content)

[astral tiger]

bro really made a choice to brick his acc

😔

[strong summit]

With Office I was just joshing around but I accept the Right3313 for the peace of mind of not having an incomplete mission on my face haunting me

[tame granite]

Which base are the best?

[astral tiger]

252
2 Trading Posts, 5 Factories and 2 Power Plants

[tame granite]

Guide please?

[astral tiger]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zYc2JU46X0XWmV7s1503bN4feRdOMa1eehrTQ2jGaiE/edit?gid=1263834449#gid=1263834449

[vestal sable]

not everyone has bryo e2

[astral tiger]

which is why I said "If"

[vestal sable]

#bot-spam /base

[tame granite]

Thx

[vestal sable]

Yea but the people you're talking to are new players iirc so they don't have that and that should probably be mentioned xD

[astral tiger]

hmm, fair ig

[vestal sable]

Yea just checked the guy didn't even have tequila at e2 yet when I helped him with his base xD

[astral tiger]

well I only really said it as an example

will mention the elite level next time

[strong summit]

Tbf it's nice to know who are the game changer base ops. I've heard about Proviso so much at this point

[vestal sable]

It's just proviso tequila shamare for ones that are actually worth investing into

Is why you've only heard about them

Bryophyta +15% more gold than he would if he was e0

Which is like...

[strong summit]

Now that I'm almost done with buildings the base (last 2 activity rooms on 3 and I'm done) I need to start really organizing the combos and etc

I just put some random people together to make presets for my peace of mind for now

[vestal sable]

oh i can help u with that if u want

u can ping me with ur krooster and i can give u a set up whenever i look at it

[strong summit]

I would love that , give me a second

1 - those are my recent results but consider that I've been moving the base around a lot in the last few days
2 - I still have my e2 4* ticket if necessary
3 - I'm sitting with 200k lmd and a lot of exp if e1 is necessary for someone
4 - idk how to show all my presets but I suppose that's meaningless, it's for sure a mess
5 - https://www.krooster.com/u/radio

[wind otter]

don't forget to buy furniture with primes

[astral tiger]

[woven stratus]

so i downgrade 1 TP and upgrade training room and reception room?

[round dagger]

Nah... Don't upgrade reception and

Office

Two lvl3 tp is fine if you don't use proviso

You shouldn't get the bottom dorm....

Overall your base is great, you can just demolish the bottom dorm to upgrade training room

[lyric igloo]

This still produces more than 243? My right side is fully upgraded so i cant rlly do anything abt it

[orchid bane]

No if the factory stop working

[lyric igloo]

Assuming it is optimal yea right

[orchid bane]

Yea

[lyric igloo]

[orchid bane]

That should be good

Don't let building stop working

Try not to let them stop working for long

[craggy horizon]

What are some good 5* base slaves worth E2ing?

I already have Shamare and Proviso on E2

[silent nova]

no dijiang upgrade chat its over

they killed off base

[craggy horizon]

How's Bryophyta in factory?

[orchid bane]

He is very good. Good in Fac2 better in fac3
Best partner (Thorns2 2TP+ , Gravel, or some 30% gold )

Time to get ROI from E2 Kroos2

[arctic prism]

And while you're at it, make sure to convert all your sanity to drones for maximum base stonks

^(In case someone less informed reads this please do not do this, it is a joke)

[wind otter]

[strong summit]

I normally use my sanity to farm lmd on CE-1

[rigid plume]

You're joking, right?

[orchid bane]

At least he do use sanity I guess ?

[manic basin]

In a 252 setup with 2 lvl 3 Factories and 3 lvl 2 factories, what should i set the lvl 3 factories to produce? Gold or XP or both?

[meager meadow]

Hm? What about Tequila and Bibeak/Paprika/Diamante?

[hasty tiger]

Probably depends on what you have the best combos for since most require 3 slots but also your needs. If you're running proviso and droning her you'll need a good bit of gold production to be neutral/positive

[manic basin]

I see I don't have Proviso yet so i guess i will just focus on Gold once i set up my 2nd Trading post to lvl 3. Still only played 3 weeks or so, i probably need LMD more than XP since i am getting quite a bit of XP from completing IS battle passes so far and always running somewhat lowish on LMD.

[violet warren]

how to slot in snegurochka and eunectes into mr nothing team?

is replacing sail with eunectes in CC worth?

[vague tendon]

Do I switch a 3rd factory to gold bars? I've been bleeding them since I got Proviso to E2 and droning

[hasty tiger]

That is how it works. The fifth is a flex for what you need

[simple violet]

I'm going to upgrade a few 5*s for this quest. Any base operators I should consider? Planning on Greyy2.

[vestal sable]

proviso tequila shamare if u dont have them up

bryophyta

u can post ur krooster if u want people to take a look

[vestal sable]

also uh ping me again in a few hours, i can look at this after work, was busy yesterday

[simple violet]

Good call, thanks!
https://www.krooster.com/u/jellie

[vestal sable]

Greyyter is nice for the weedy team (even more so if ur on 243 but still good even in 252) and is good for IS5
surfer is good for every IS in general if that interests u as well
krooster for IS3 specifically and decent elsewhere

u seem to have most of the important ones so atp everything for base would be minor increases if u wanted to minmax, stuff like increasing the 30% or 35% workers to 35% or 40% etc

Notable ones are waai fu, feater, aroma, underflow

i'd look at the sheet for values and compare with what u own atm

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zYc2JU46X0XWmV7s1503bN4feRdOMa1eehrTQ2jGaiE/edit?gid=1263834449#gid=1263834449

[boreal nymph]

Is it worth farming Originium Shard on Base?

[wind orbit]

if you have done your priorities for progression, sure
there's guide about it too here

It's not for beginner
@boreal nymph maybe you can read this past chat to consider

[astral tiger]

or simply don't bother with orundum farming if you are still levelling ops to clear stuff

it wont be helpful if you are progressing, as mentioned

takes too much resources

[wind orbit]

yea, I just assuming bcs I saw finne joined on 2021
Maybe they play diligently

[astral tiger]

I see

but yeah in endgame it's worth it

[restive oak]

How much orundums should i be getting a day from base

[astral tiger]

depends on the team u using but 400~ ig?

been a while since I last did it (also with lots of team shifting) so yeah not sure

[pallid isle]

400 is extremely high

should be closer to around 1/3 of a pull a day

or a little over 200

i think between 200-250 is normal from what i last saw

[frank cipher]

340-400 even with 100%tp

250 is red Ao farming

[astral tiger]

guess I remembered wrong then

I use 112% team in tp for orundum

mostly get gated by ao production so I switch to 2 ao facs when lots of orders pile up

[light widget]

is there anything better than sham-teq-bibeak in a lv3 tp?

[rigid plume]

Proviso in Lv2.

[light widget]

"in a lv3 tp"

tbf, I do have lv2 prov 24/7

[rigid plume]

Then Proviso with 2 biggest Order%

Lemuen+Exusiai

[light widget]

I just wanna know if there's any better or on PAR with sham teq trio in a lv3 since I'm lazy enough to do sham teq prov rotation

I just do prov fia

[rigid plume]

If besides Proviso, none

She's second best combo available.

[light widget]

yes I know I might get cursed here since I'm rotating out sham trio

[light widget]

guess I'll just stick to Glasgow duo then

[strong summit]

At your own time! I really appreciate the help

[vestal sable]

nah i do it too, too much effort to fia all 3, i just fia proviso as well

this is what it gives u with everyone at e2

u have this

this

u have this team as well, ig durin and myrtle in dorm if u can afford to keep them there + 3 gold factories in a 252 would give u 5?

unless im missing something

[vestal sable]

also to clarify, is this a 252? what levels are each of the stuff

[astral tiger]

his was a 252

right side 3313 iirc

so 3 lvl 3 facs and 2 lvl 2

[light widget]

hmmm, I guess this would be better than Glasgow team but I need to convert 1 exp to gold to get 4 existing gold fac

probably not worth it but thanks

[vestal sable]

tps 2 3 or 3 3 or 2 2?

[astral tiger]

that I don't remember them mentioning

I think both tps would be lvl 3?

1312 has 520/540 power with max left

[astral tiger]

for him, +50 on RR, -60 from Facs and +30 from TR from here

540/540

both tps should be 3

[queen flicker]

whats better in a 252 with 2~3 golds (i change to 3 exp for a while when excess gold):

• tp1: proviso + glasgow team
• tp2: shamare tequila bibeak

OR

• tp1: proviso pozy tuye
• tp2: shamare tequila kirara

[astral tiger]

I don't think bricking shamare team is worth it

that's 55% 4 gold chance vs 85%

with full ramp

[vestal sable]

also there's math here for the proviso teams if ur asking for her partners

[astral tiger]

pozy + tuye with 3 gold facs would be 110 right?

I don't think it's worth it

unless math says otherwise

[queen flicker]

first option i belive is 346,31% totsl tp + 46,58% gold

whats lvl 3 innate prod?

[astral tiger]

3

354.21 tp + 33.5 gold

for 2nd

unless I got the numbers wrong

[queen flicker]

second option is 355,7% tp + 33,5 gold yeah

unless i got them wrong too lol

[astral tiger]

I took 110 for pozy tuye

7 for cc

[queen flicker]

same

[astral tiger]

that's it then lol

[queen flicker]

not worth

[astral tiger]

yeah

[queen flicker]

but what if 4 gold

[astral tiger]

60 and 95

425.5 tp

[queen flicker]

maybe i can rotate beetween 4 gold 1 exp with pozy team and 2 gold 3 exp with glasgow team 🤔

[astral tiger]

uhhh good luck

[queen flicker]

yeah too much work

but imagine the lmd report number

[astral tiger]

would be insane

but maintaining that will take up irl sanity

[queen flicker]

probable around 80k daily

[astral tiger]

stonks

[queen flicker]

would look similar to a cursing report but without actually cursing

[astral tiger]

so just gotta curse on top of that

90k+

[queen flicker]

recently i made some changes to my rotations to make it easier to alternate between 3 gold/exp

i think it's slighty sub optimal but i don't have to touch anything else just one factory

[astral tiger]

spot on then

[vestal sable]

ayt thanks, ill get to it

[astral tiger]

u don't have ceobe or pallas for vermeil team?

asking cuz you are using scene already

rip

[queen flicker]

my biggest concern is automation team. for now 2 out of 4 shifts is alright because without greyy alter is just 90% i believe. but soon with snegurochka i'll move eunectes to cc and use dead lancet and it feels wrong to have automation with 145% with an uptime of 2 out of 4 shifts

think i should try to adjust everything to make it 2 out of 3 shifts. but it's going to be a pain to handle that because a 2/3 rotation won't align with the rest of the base normal rotations of 3/4. idk if you understand this my explanation sucks

[astral tiger]

nah I get your point

speaking of which I'm also kinda cooked then

2 lvl 3 facs cuz max right

both are occupied by bryo and vermeil team

[vestal sable]

243 stays winning

tbh u can just not use snegu and its fine as well, weedy purestream 2 man is still good for a lv 2 factory

[astral tiger]

but the automation is higher prod than bryo team

[vestal sable]

#r-i-i-c message

u can read from there but

[astral tiger]

hmm

[vestal sable]

like the bryo team going to lv 2 is equivalent to losing 35%

weedy team going to lv 2 is losing snegu which is losing 30%

and both of these still function as 2 man teams

if ur optimizing for total productivity you'd want bubble and/or vermeil teams in ur lv 3s im pretty sure cuz most of the good 3 man teams are also just good 2 man teams anyway

like mizuki 3 vs 2 is just 90 vs 60 so that's like losing a 30% worker, same applies for dorothy (cuz everyone that isn't silence alt is only 30% outside of nasti)

[astral tiger]

that is true

idk why I didn't think of it like this

been suboptimal this whole time then

[vestal sable]

if it makes u feel better i was in the same boat until cho pointed it out

[astral tiger]

I've been using bryo main team

[vestal sable]

well if u have

[astral tiger]

with bubble team as replacement during downtime

[vestal sable]

bryo thorns gravel

then its a bit diff

cuz gravel is a 40% worker with bryo

basically

[astral tiger]

and this being the last fac

[vestal sable]

but if its like gravel + a random 30%

ok yea u prob dont want that

[astral tiger]

I do yeah

[vestal sable]

cuz like dorothy in place of haze would be 60 there

haze + ptilo is 55

if i weren't lazy i'd code something to optimize my base for me

surprised we dont have that tool yet in ak

[astral tiger]

I don't know if I wanna try staggering, sounds like a pain tbh

it's easy when it aligns itself

[astral tiger]

damn

I thought of that but yeah no

so this is 116 + 55

171

[vestal sable]

bryo + thorns duo is 76

bubble team is 93 with bena, 90-95 with ceobe

nvm

[astral tiger]

yeah it's worse

ceobe already with vermeil

[vestal sable]

yea my math didnt include lobster cuz i dont have him lmao but i realized after i opened the sheet

[astral tiger]

lobster 😭

[vestal sable]

do u have a doro team or sth tho

[astral tiger]

nope

[vestal sable]

cuz this can be a 60 if u swap haze with doro

[astral tiger]

I'd send my krooster but it aint updated

[vestal sable]

or do u just not have her at all is what u mean

ah

[astral tiger]

Don't have her

[vestal sable]

figures

[astral tiger]

only extra I've got is automation

[vestal sable]

spot in another team ig?

u can just do weedy purestream duo

[astral tiger]

I just put in swap here during downtime

it's not exactly optimal but this fac remains at 55 or 60%

[vestal sable]

that's like 70%, 85% with greyyter

[astral tiger]

I have weedy + pure in a fac already

eun in cc

so it's 100

[vestal sable]

ah ok

[astral tiger]

if we look at total then it's currently 100 + 116 + 55

271

[vestal sable]

u can also do weedy + snegu duo ig

[astral tiger]

if I get snegu then

[vestal sable]

once snegu is out

and purestream + someone else

[astral tiger]

I'm trying to see if replacing bryo would be worth it overall

[vestal sable]

80% for weedy + snegu duo in a lv 2

and purestream is a raw 40% worker elsewhere

[astral tiger]

like auto team for bryo

[vestal sable]

oh wait 80% i mathed incorrectly

[astral tiger]

130 + 76 (bryo + thorns) + 60?

still worse

[vestal sable]

65

[astral tiger]

this is better ig

[vestal sable]

oh wait uh

yea no 65

gravel + spot/haze

if u do bryo thorns duo

[astral tiger]

just took the lower amount cuz gravel the only 35%

[vestal sable]

ah ok

[astral tiger]

tho bryo and thorns downtime would be painful

if I go with your idea then 116 + 80 + (pure and haze/spot)

[vestal sable]

116 + 80 + 70

266?

its the exact same...

[astral tiger]

shit's the exact same

[vestal sable]

ROFL

well the above is better if gravel is available

cuz it goes to 271

[astral tiger]

so snegu does anything

[vestal sable]

oh wait no

[astral tiger]

gravel with bryo

[vestal sable]

no wait it does

[astral tiger]

[vestal sable]

im right

[vestal sable]

not in this

i mean

[astral tiger]

hm

take your time

[vestal sable]

oh no i meant

[vestal sable]

if u do this then the 3rd factory will be 65 on occasion whenever gravel is on shift

cuz gravel has now been freed up

[astral tiger]

ah

well but having snegu isn't doing much then, cuz it's the same as what I'm doing now

the only good thing from this mess was knowing I wasn't being completely suboptimal till now

[queen flicker]

so you have bryo team on lvl 3, automation lvl 2 and 55%?

[astral tiger]

yeah

55 or 60 whenever spot and haze are up or down

[queen flicker]

do you use mlynar or the likes for those lvl 2 facs?

[astral tiger]

I do have mlynar

flame aint levelled so just a smiley

[queen flicker]

i mean the uptime on all your facs is 3 shifts i guess?

[astral tiger]

ascalon for 7% tp

yeah

the only "staggering" I really do is with fac 3 and 5

and rr

rest just goes straight in the dorm

lol

and then main team back in once I wake up

[queen flicker]

i think automation lvl 3, bryo lvl 2 and gravel+30 is 286

[astral tiger]

don't have grey alter sadly

[queen flicker]

oh

[astral tiger]

yeah, would have been better then

lol

just hoping the banners align with him somehow

or I'll just snag him with certs

[queen flicker]

but still, i think snegu is worth. she replace purestream and purestream can be used in your lvl 2 replacing the 25%. so a 5% increase right?

oh nvm snegu is 30% when in lvl 3

[astral tiger]

yeah, she's a 20% otherwise

and don't think it's worth removing vermeil team

or well

I think I'll check if the gold can be sustained with bryo + automation in lvl 3 fac

cuz then I'll just run 2 gold facs

3 exp facs would make up for the loss from vermeil team

since I don't have fia so proviso and shamare don't have full uptime

and proviso is with 40%

well 47 cuz cc

it's a 27% prod diff for gold

and currently I feel like I'm sustaining it pretty well

so I think this might actually just work out

[queen flicker]

btw this is what i meant with trying to share sub teams with automation 2/3 uptime. its not posible lol

[astral tiger]

jesus 😭

[queen flicker]

automation needs his own dedicated sub team i think

its that or make the others facs also 2/3 uptime

well also no because the sub team will have 3/3 uptime lol

[astral tiger]

[queen flicker]

i want mizuki

[queen flicker]

something like this i guess

i know bryo team would be better than bubble but would like to keep that fac easily swapable to exp

[orchid bane]

<-my face

[rigid plume]

WTF succ

[valid storm]

roccs for your orundumbs

[frank cipher]

and they say they don't give free orundum in shop, dem that worth 2 day

[orchid bane]

Hi wrys . I thought you are not around here any more

So. Do we have next 6k+ furn set in chap 16 ?

[valid storm]

I'm always around, just had a few rough weeks and didn't have much energy

[valid storm]

Uhh... can check in a few hours,once I get home from work

[orchid bane]

I hope the worst is over and you are doing well now

[valid storm]

the worst is coming, company removed home office

[orchid bane]

[rigid plume]

Umm, which office, may I ask

[orchid bane]

I thought you have always been "go back home from work" since forever ?

[hasty tiger]

You have haze double booked

[queen flicker]

thanks for noticing 🫡

[solar tangle]

@vestal sable
Yea the base is giving consist income now, thx

Should I level all the ops that get a better skill at e1 or 2?

[pallid isle]

never e2 for base besides proviso

roi is years/decades for most

anything that you have left that just needs e1 is fine to promote

[summer kernel]

today's the last day for the 5* e2 event so i gotta build random 5*s for base

i think im going to finish kirara and tuye even though i dont have pozy yet

[silent nova]

Ooh I gotta Do hat

[vestal sable]

nice

like umbral said never e2 for base outside of proviso shamare and tequila, e1s are fine if they would be an increase

[strong summit]

(unless its Texas )

[vestal sable]

Trading Post 1
Jaye Lappland Texas
catapult Midnight Bison

Trading Post 2
Quartz (E1) yato Mousse
Gitano Melantha Exusiai

Notes:
DO NOT promote Jaye
Quartz is from red cert shop
Bison is a wellfare from code of crawl

Gold
Factory 1 (Level 3)
Vermeil(e1) cuora noir corne
Cardigan Fang Kroos

Factory 2 (Level 3)
Bryophyta Spot Totter
Beagle Astgenne Wild Mane

EXP
Factory 3 (Level 2)
Jessica Vanilla

Factory 4 (Level 2)
Perfumer Steward
Ptilopsis Silence

Factory 5 (Level 3)
Vigna Shirayuki Frostleaf
Popukar Beanstalk Meteor

Notes:
Bryophyta is free from so long adele
Astgenne/Wild Mane is cuz i couldn't find anything else, they're free from a couple of events but if u have anything else that gives +% productivity to generic factories/precious metals u can use that in their spot instead of having to farm them
There's some good 4* like Haze, Purestream, Gummy and conviction, 3 of which u dont have yet and conviction is free during april fool's
Do u have any other units that are leftover with factory +% after u put all of these, i dont think there are any that u can use for the 3rd factory unfortunately, if so just put whatever workers there

@strong summit

ill configure the other rooms in a bit

[strong summit]

Holy damn! You actually did it!
I'm going to chase Bison and Bryo right now, thankfully the week just turned and we got 2 more side mission tickets

Gonna take a look at which tag combos I can make to get more chances for those 4* that I lack

[craggy horizon]

How worth is E2 Bryo?

[arctic prism]

from an roi stand point? not at all
base meta rotations standpoint? like +10% gold compared to not using him

[craggy horizon]

What about Tequila E2

[arctic prism]

i mean if we're considering the fact that you need to e2 three (or four) different 5*s to use that guy's comp, definitely not worth from a pure roi standpoint either considering final % is what, like 132% tp + 40smth% gold?
but tequila (and shamare) is at least actually useful in gameplay if you are lacking units like him so it doesnt feel as bad

[craggy horizon]

Damn, guess I'll just invest in my favorites

[arctic prism]

generally if you're looking for return on investment it's pretty much just going to be 4*s for e1s and proviso only for e2

everyone else takes years to decades or even centuries to pay the e2 back

[craggy horizon]

Naaah dawg

[arctic prism]

yea that's why people dont recommend e2 for base unless you literally have nothing better to do with your resources or want to e2 those ops anyways for one reason or another

[solar tangle]

Hmm alr

[vestal sable]

u just need to e2 shamare and maybe tequila as well, the 3rd one can be ignored

[arctic prism]

even then they arent going to pay themselves off that fast

[vestal sable]

can technically work with e0 teq and bibeak and shamare is good for IS/general gameplay as well so no real downside in E2ing her but fair

[arctic prism]

so yeah like you said it's just strictly if you want to also use them in gameplay

but if you have no interest in using them and are strapped for resources, shouldnt expect return on investment

[hallow veldt]

Hey guys, extremely lost in how I should build my presets for the 252 with proviso

any assist?

[vestal sable]

Share krooster and I'll get to it later

[valid storm]

chapter 16 will bring a 5k set with pieces linked to the chapter release event, Sass event will bring a 2.3k and a 6.55k set

[orchid bane]

Idk if I am safe or not. Only have like 4.5k atm

Gotta skipped the ave event 2k . cause that event farming stages are beyond terrible

[wind otter]

you better have a stockpile of both gel and solvent if you are going to do that, no farming stages for either in the future so far and those mats are bottleneck mats

[wind otter]

don't buy credit shop rocc until you have furniture parts

[orchid bane]

This is not ave event

Ngl. I am farming rock and some gel

But they are far from enough

But I still stop when I cleared the store

I already stoped

[wind otter]

I'm farming all the solvent and gel I can get, punch to the gut all we get is a short rerun to farm them, but expected...

[orchid bane]

This might hurt in the future

Gotta be careful

If you don't calculate future things . I recommend leaving the gel/solvent rate 3:2

Gel have more usage

[wind otter]

[pale yoke]

so you telling me i should dump all my pots into gel/solv now?

[wind otter]

definitely not, wait for the sanity discount just in case

[pale yoke]

Started the event at like 180 gel and 190 solv

Damn their rate is bad

Next event is sanity discount?

[wind otter]

rate is bad but is all there is for months

those can last you for a while though

[wind otter]

who knows, maybe yostar surprises

[pale yoke]

yostar probably making their next genshin killer after stellar solar close call

they don't have time for making us surprises

[wind otter]

what? I thought Stella Sora killed genshi already

[pale yoke]

must be true

[wind otter]

[queen flicker]

proviso and shamare being consistent for once 👏

[pallid isle]

I think I am on average been getting lower end of orders rip

In fairness it doesn't help when I go to bed forgetting about gladia

Looks pretty good though I think that's what mine optimally looks like with extra exp

Pretty nice

[queen flicker]

i'm doing 3 exp until i burn some gold

[pallid isle]

I burn gold with 3 gold but that's because I had a lot of extra time and did cursed all the time

But it only gives me like 5k more lmd idk bad RNG ig

[queen flicker]

never tried cursing and probably never will

[pallid isle]

Could just do it when you use sanity then log off to ease fia rotations a bit over time

Don't have to do it for tequila

But other wise understandable

[simple violet]

I was trying to make the Highmore / Mizuki factory work, but I don't see the purpose. Highmore + Mizuki + Standardization operator gives me .93 in that factory, which would be the worst factory I run. It allows me to slot one of Wild Mane / Fartooth / Ashlock into the same factory, but that's not markedly different from running them somewhere else and running a different Standardization with Mizuki unless I have someone to replace them elsewhere, right?

[queen flicker]

i don't have mizuki so i can't help

[lavish quarry]

Holy... I want those numbers too... what base setup are you using?

[queen flicker]

252 max left

[lavish quarry]

That's nice. Must be cool not having HR at MAX

[strong summit]

Who is that cat on a bow tie??

+~20 gold with your setup without losing any other indicator, this is really cool @vestal sable
I still need to e1 some ops and get others from side missions next week (need tickets), so it's not even its final form

[queen flicker]

miss christine

[round lichen]

Highmore isn’t worth, the only real Mizuki team is the BSW team with Jess2 in CC

As you said, Mizuki and Highmore are stuck at 30%, and the +5 from Mizuki isn’t going to make anyone who wasn’t already useful worth the sacrifice

[bright folio]

This is my current Vergil inspired room, what else can I add for extra motivation?

[rigid plume]

Beer.

[orchid bane]

White sand ?

[wind otter]

we are owed this collab

[vestal sable]

pog nice

[wind otter]

"what if instead we send dorm workers to the control center and now make them get tired?", "Brilliant idea!"

[valid storm]

Vergil?

[bright folio]

from devil may cry. The funny man in the plastic lawn chair.

[valid storm]

Aaah, the guy who gets killed in the memes

[bright folio]

WYM GETS KILLED??

[astral tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/vergil-reaction-vergil-reaction-my-reaction-to-that-information-my-reaction-to-that-information-meme-gif-26427732

[bright folio]

hes literally me

[valid storm]

looks like a guy who gets killed in the next cutscene

[bright folio]

bro is witerally one of the most overpowered characters in fiction

[valid storm]

Okay, and?

[bright folio]

and hes motivated

[valid storm]

that means nothing, since motivated people tend to die faster

[bright folio]

Not in vergils case

https://tenor.com/view/vergil-reaction-to-this-information-gif-15147410473022148700

[wind otter]

you will live forever

[valid storm]

Nah, he'd die

[valid storm]

no, thanks, I'm not motivated to stay alive

[wind otter]

are you motivated to die?

[bright folio]

https://tenor.com/view/vergil-devil-may-cry-dmc-my-honest-reaction-gif-25752950

[valid storm]

nah

[bright folio]

unc doesnt know ball

[wind otter]

well, there you have it

[bright folio]

@wind otter im going to make a dante room right under this and its just going to be an empty room with his desk and pizza bc he had to sell everything else to make rent

(and pay for the pizza)

[wind otter]

add Trish's motorcycle

[analog kayak]

ello guys do I upgrade reception room to 2? for the missions I was wondering cause I see people got 3 slots but then I get people saying I shouldn't

[rigid plume]

You have 252 or 243 base setup?

What numbers means:
Left side, Trading > Factory > Powerplant
How much buildings in total.

[analog kayak]

I have 5 factories ye

[rigid plume]

Ok, so listen up why shouldn't.

Due to extra Factory, your power is limited and you cannot max whole your base.

Reception Room, as well as other right buildings, cannot be downgraded, yet they consume more power.

So you must be careful and level up only Workshop and Training Room for leveling and M3 your ops.

The Office and Reception Room gains least usage upon level, so you can ignore them.

The spare power you direct into leveling Factories and Tradings.

[analog kayak]

Ah oke so then do people just upgrade them when they get more currency?

[rigid plume]

They just don't.

Unless they want 243.

Which they may disregard those warnings.

Since they can just max out whole base.

[analog kayak]

ah okay

[rigid plume]

But this brings less EXP/Gold.

[analog kayak]

are the losses big?

[rigid plume]

252 max right should be slightly better than 243

Ummm

Ask others

I'm just an 243 enjoyer.

[analog kayak]

oke ill just do 243 then

[rigid plume]

You sure?

There's no turning back

[analog kayak]

idk im not really a sweat

[rigid plume]

K, then you may ignore about not doing pinpoint and get Texas.

[analog kayak]

I was just wondering how others are doing the 3 friend slots when I saw people saying we shouldn't

[strong summit]

The optimization probably came later so a lot of old players (lvl 100+) might have upgraded stuff without fully realizing the options.
Now they warn others to think twice about it, since it's a permanent choice on your account

[meager meadow]

it is if you don't rotate 243 every 6 hours

[meager meadow]

Legit why?

You said it yourself, you are not a sweat.
But here you are, going for a far more expensive base to build, just to run it like the inexpensive setup.
Not to mention, said expensive base also requiring more effort on daily operations to keep up with the latter.

The common ground between base tryhards and base semi-casuals is not to upgrade Office, as one of it's 2 benefits given by the upgrades became useless by QoL adjustments (Recruitment not costing LMD)
And if you are recruiting frequently (think 4 times a day), your usage of permits surpasses its supply

The energy taken by those office upgrades thus end up being more useful as fuel for another factory upgrade, whose benefits are always assured

The rest is up to player choice. It's pretty much as radio said

[orchid bane]

My point in RR and office
RR. I would love to be able to let my friends borrow my OPs, . and it is comfortable to have 2 slots, but maybe 1 is fine
Office. I can't take 2 slots I tried before, my recruitment permits keep pilling up , should be at least 3

If you have no problem with those things. Just leave them lv1

[meager meadow]

? how

[orchid bane]

How is what ?

[meager meadow]

4 tickets spent daily

ticket income:
1 ticket daily
10 tickets weekly
15 tickets monthly (green cert t1 store)

turn these into monthly values

30 (1x30) + 40 (10x4) + 15 = 85 tickets obtained each month
4x30 = 120 tickets spent each month

you will be short by 35 tickets

[orchid bane]

You are not even count Credit shop ticket there

Maybe there are gonna some from events

[meager meadow]

If you include events, that's around 10 tickets more

still 25 short

credit store income of tickets is RNG, i am not sure how to include it

by the way, these don't include the expedite tickets given daily
including those, that makes usage rate become 5/daily, or 150 per month

this is enough room to clear any ticket stockpile if one doesn't buy green cert t2 section tickets (uncommon, only done when really going after gold certs)

but even then, the gap is enough to accomodate that (105 < 120 or 150)

[orchid bane]

Maybe you can give credit store 1 daily. Idk

Today I got 2

But anyway

Used 2 slots. Didn't enjoy it at all

[meager meadow]

The psychological aspect is a different thing

[orchid bane]

About the refreshes things

[meager meadow]

I am just showing that the usage rate far surpasses the supply

[orchid bane]

You have to save "red skip ticket" to use it in case the game give you many 4*

[meager meadow]

that is like

a player choice

whether you wait or skip the result, the result remains same

and i did use 120 as the reference, that's without the use of expedite tickets

[orchid bane]

If you don't then refreshes get cap

So you have to skip them till you get 3* tags

Refreshes cap is also a waste

[meager meadow]

^

[orchid bane]

Yea let agree to disagree there

[meager meadow]

[cerulean nexus]

hello, I've just got help on my team comp and they told me to go here for help on building my base. This is what I've got after watching a youtube video, is this good or did I made mistakes ?

[rigid plume]

342

🥹

Should be 252

[vital oriole]

tbh even I swapped over to 342 for ~10 months at one point. Helped when I had a bunch of ops at e1 max and was pushing through the lmd demand to e2 them all

[honest igloo]

how do I change the op that visits friends base?

[rigid plume]

You need to change the Main Assistant in Main Screen.

The 1st one.

🔄 > Change Assistant > select the waifu and skin > 🟠Set as Profile Avatar

[honest igloo]

ooooooh yayyy thank you

[pallid isle]

342 isn't bad if your wanting to make extremely small amounts of exp

[pallid isle]

yeah max right is pretty rough. just do 252 as stated before finish clearing out spaces check pin 4 for teams probably noob tab

quite unfortunate that so many videos say 243 or just max the right when its the biggest and worst thing to say

[civic crystal]

So my base is level 3 rn and to get it to level 4 I gotta upgrade 8 non-activity room buildings and I already upgraded my trade posts, factories and power plants, and also my work shop so that's 7 in total, what building do I upgrade next? I was told not to touch the office so should it be a dormitory?

[vital oriole]

yeah, iirc my numbers were 85~90k lmd 15~20k xp a day back then

[pallid isle]

that feels low but i suppose it makes sense if no cursed

cursing between 3 tp's though

💀

[pallid isle]

yeah just do dorm then downgrade it later in that case

correct

DON'T upgrade office or reception room

training room maybe/eventually but not right now since your so new your not getting masteries anyway really

[vital oriole]

was pre-Proviso

like 2021 going into 2022

[vernal palm]

what are people doing with the green certs if not that?

[arctic prism]

buying mats

[pallid isle]

i usually buy the permits kek

[vestal sable]

a bit late maybe but

243 with everything maxed has me at this

top row is the main shift, bottom row is the 2nd shift

252 with right side maxed, one TP is level 2

[vestal sable]

this set up has 2 level 3 factories and 3 level 2 factories + 1 lv 3 trading post and 1 lv 2
i could also do another one with 2 level 3 TPs and 1 level 3 factory, with the other 4 being lv 2, and TP efficiency would be the same, factoy would be higher

if u leave right side unmaxed u can do 5 level 3 factories and 1 level 3 trading post (so out of the 7 buildings, u can have 6 maxed and one at lv 2)

[vital oriole]

letting them stack to infinity as a last ditch originum backup

[vital oriole]

actually, not sure what you mean by this. the t2 recruit tickets are functionally free yellows, and there is no reason not to buy the 2 pulls

[vernal palm]

yeah I feel like you probably get more pulls out of using the extra yellows from 20 more recruitments than you would saving the 300 greens for a t3 reach

actually yeah you definitely do

at tier 3 of the green shop a pull costs 1000 certs even. 20 recruitment permits gets you ~4 yellow certs and a rebate of ~200 greens. So you're theoretically spending 1/10 of a pull in greens (in practice much less since you have to spend 10s of thousands of greens to unlock the third tier) in order to gain more than half a pull in yellows

[vital oriole]

iirc when I ran the calcs for yearly income some years back, your green cert income and expendidture were mostly 1 to 1 with maybe a 5% carry over month to month of unspent greens, then any pulls you do add to that green cert fund over time

at ~60k greens myself after 5 years or so

though monthly helps

[meager meadow]

honestly i just thought that not everyone would be buying them routinely, not sure why i even thought that way that time lmao

but i still did include them in supply right after just cuz that is a valid thing to do regardless

[bright folio]

Damn I was looking into this and it was a limited piece from 2022 before I started playing again

I dont think theres any way for me to get it now

[orchid bane]

There are store in base. Have you tried looking there ?

Idk

[round lichen]

Daily missions give 2 permits on weekends, so it’s more accurate to say 19 permits/week and 365 days/12 months =30.417 days/month =4.345 weeks/month, so on average 82.6 permits coming from missions every month

Then add the permits from green cert shop

[meager meadow]

so 118 permits if we round it off

thanks for the info doe, didn't notice weekends gave double

[round lichen]

Np

[cobalt chasm]

Hi all. I'm having a bit of trouble understanding how I can best optimize my base for resources. I've watched a couple of vids as well as took a look at the spreadsheet. I have some goofy rotation rn and was wondering if anyone could guide me as to what my rotations should be/who to build for base https://krooster.com/u/happy-canary-rainbow-372c

[round lichen]

@cobalt chasm if you take a look at the noob tab of the base skills spreadsheet, it has several 4-stars you can E1 to get a good baseline of 30% and 35% Fac workers. Do NOT promote Jaye, he isn’t useful in gameplay nowadays and his base skill gets worse at E1. With few exceptions, 5-stars have a very slow ROI if you raise them purely for base. Obviously the best TP workers are Shamare, Tequila, and Proviso, but since you don’t have Fiammetta you have to plan for them recovering in the dorm. When Shamare team is in dorms, E0 Jaye can work with Texas and Lappland for a nice combo, with a 5% bonus if you can schedule them while E2 Umiri is in CC.
Filling CC will probably be your biggest challenge, but you do seem to have a few good options like Swire+Hoshi2, Wiš’adel, and Umiri. You can use Sakiko & friends to get a slight boost to gold if you don’t have anything better.

[tacit vigil]

hello guys are these normal outputs if i dont have proviso?

i run 3 exp 2 gold on factory

[frank cipher]

45k average provisoless not bad, drone shama/req still viable

[pallid isle]

i seem to always forget how strong proviso really is

but your exp seems low

i run 2 exp and get around the same numbers you have tbf i have more but even so

having an entire extra factory should mean your getting at least 40ish

[desert trout]

What is the purpose of activity rooms? May they stay unbuilded?

[hasty tiger]

Clearing them increases your drone capacity but the room itself is for gaining trust with ops put in there

[desert trout]

I see. As they use no energy will be at the end of my base list. Thx for the answer

[hasty tiger]

Yeah lowest priority but worth doing after all else is finished

[rigid plume]

Trust farm, like Base Assistant slots.

Lowest prio possible - build them only if you done with everything else.

[vestal sable]

will look at this in a bit

[cobalt chasm]

thank you 🩷

[steady gyro]

Activity rooms are purely for fun and all. If I’m done with everything else, am I free to level them up and such? Since you get more ambience cap, is that more trust gain for the trust farm?
Obviously dorms shouldn’t be leveled tho don’t worry I’m not doing that anytime at all

[hasty tiger]

Yes activity rooms are fine after the rest of the base is setup

No power usage and there to gain trust

[steady gyro]

That’s neat

[meager meadow]

more slop updates for the base woohoo!

game will hit 10 year anniversary and it would still have the office be a sitting dumpster fire at level 3

[vestal sable]

Trading Post 1 (level 2)
Proviso Quartz (E1)
Gummy Midnight Catapult (any 2)

Trading Post 2 (level 3)
Bibeak/Diamante Shamare Tequila
Jaye Lappland Texas

Notes:

• Buy Quartz from red cert shop
• Buy Bibeak from the contingency contract store if u can. Diamante can be purchased from the purchase cert shop but not worth it imo. Paprika and Kafka work as well here if u happen to pull any of them. If u cant buy bibeak and don't wanna waste certs on diamante, use literally anyone else here, it doesn't matter.
• DO NOT PROMOTE JAYE

Factory 1 (Level 3 Gold)
Bryophyta Gravel Haze
Asbestos Figurino Popukar

Factory 2 (Level 3 Gold)
Purestream Spot(E1) Almond
Jessica Vanilla Silence

Factory 3 (Level 2 Gold)
Totter Steward
Fang Kroos

Factory 4 (Level 3 EXP)
Vermeil Click Beanstalk
Executoralter Chestnut Yato

Factory 5 (Level 2 EXP)
Conviction(E1) Vigna
Shirayuki(E1) Frostleaf(E1)

Notes:

• Totter doesn't need E1 but worth doing on him as well imo
• Bryophyta is free from So Long Adele's Record Restoration

Power Plant 1
Greyy alter
Liskarm

Power Plant 2
Greyy
Indigo

Reception Room
Gitano Vigil
May Rope

Notes:

• Vigil is free from Il Siracusano's Record Restoration

HR
Haruka (at e2)
Ethan/Utage/Aciddrop/Orchid

Notes:

• Ethan is from red cert shop
• Use 2 of the bottom 3 for now until u E2 Haruka

CC
Sakiko Umiri Nyamu Swire Hoshialter
Amiya Wisadel Kroosalter Lavaalter and anyone else for the last slot

[vestal sable]

@cobalt chasm feel free to ask if u have any questions

[bright folio]

Unfortunately not there, the set was deemed limited at the time. Unless they decide to randomly put it back in the shop, which doesn't seem likely for furniture, I dont see any future ways to obtain it.