#r-i-i-c

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rigid plume
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🄹

stoic spoke
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simulate with shamare

orchid bane
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Chestnut

rigid plume
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🄹

stoic spoke
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for lemuen?

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you can use 2x 40 ones

uncut dome
uncut dome
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Maybe I should update... how outdated is it...

stoic spoke
uncut dome
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Damn, last one was BananaFiaDed

rigid plume
stoic spoke
rigid plume
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67 vs 90

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And I have 780 in stock

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Not bad

stoic spoke
rigid plume
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Nah, Im good

stoic spoke
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dam

rigid plume
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Expected to lose about up to 10 weekly

stoic spoke
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Where would you place Skadi and Spector in the 2nd shift(labelled 24hr)?
Old rotation used Ceobe in FAC 4 GOLD, but she will lose ramp if swapped out.

small halo
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just a quick check, the current strongest base combo for CC is hoshi2 swire for 7% TP 3% fact?

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for ave musica they gives like 60 fever at all 5 e2?

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60 fever gives 4% precious metal in fact and 7%? for TP I guess

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also for nyamu her base skill is RR +5% or 10% at e2?

small halo
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can someone check if umiri base skill affect shamare for the siracusan 5% TP?

small halo
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buff siracusan.
shamare being siracusan.
can't buff shamare.
very hypergryph like ChenShrug

jaunty notch
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shamare cancels everything

valid storm
winged hollow
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can't wait base nerds get crazy over endfield base

valid storm
winged hollow
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ok miss wife

glad hill
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Do the numbers in the operators info actually display how much time they got left? Cuz if so, then the FAC team can work for 9 more hours, yet Mr. Nothingburger has only 15 left, despite having the exact same morale

frank cipher
pale yoke
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Minmax every tile and space

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Hope I can build 333 there too just to prove 333 is better

orchid bane
fluid pollen
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Or replace Verm Figurino with Skadi Specter, and leave Ceobe running at 25%, but that’s just worse?

wind otter
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||Bubble skin ThornsNani ||

torn meteor
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fuck using haze thornsalt gravel

fluid pollen
pale yoke
stoic spoke
torn meteor
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i want her to be filler at most

stoic spoke
torn meteor
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rn my level 3 factory teams are
vermeil scene fedex
haze thornsalt gravel
bubble vulcan bena
i rotate bubble vulcan bena into both when they need to rest

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id be moving haze into a level 2 factory until i get either dorothy or skadi plus andreanna

hexed idol
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is 30k lmd on riic report is good enough i want to make lots of lmd

queen flicker
torn meteor
torn meteor
queen flicker
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i see. why not add spot into thorsalt team and stagger all 4? then you can use bubble team somewhere else. or is it because you dont have any more lvl 3 facs?

torn meteor
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im max right so i only have 2, but also im not willing to go through the effort of staggering 4 ops in a level 3 factory and itd be a noticeable productivity drop if i didnt, and my exp doesnt have a good 2nd team

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i have pinus but its all e0 and no viv

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surely they give us a 4th preset aPES2_SadGeCopium

torn meteor
queen flicker
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i was asking because very soon ill finish e2 vulcan and im not totally sure what to replace

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but i think its has to be fac 3 right. then use fac 3 leftovers as a sub team for both bubble and vermeil right. and i can stop using fang kroos

hexed idol
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should i lie remove 1 factory and build another tp

queen flicker
torn meteor
hexed idol
torn meteor
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in base an operator can only be one faction

queen flicker
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wheres shamare?

torn meteor
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wait wheres shamare? i thought you said you had her?

hexed idol
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shes in the rotation

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so i put her up?

stoic spoke
torn meteor
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shamare should be with tequila

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cut kirara put shamare with tequila then put another 30 with mitm mousse

hexed idol
queen flicker
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looks like e0 mitm

hexed idol
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yes

torn meteor
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oh yeah it is, then mitm should also be replaced with a 30

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wait no kirara isnt good without pozemka tuye dont use her

queen flicker
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also with lemuen use og exu instead

hexed idol
torn meteor
hexed idol
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so everythings fine now?

torn meteor
hexed idol
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should i get another tp

torn meteor
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nope

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2 tps is enough

hexed idol
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alright

queen flicker
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whats you sub team for tp1?

hexed idol
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should i use exu alter and other laternos to replace this formation

torn meteor
torn meteor
queen flicker
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catapult is in the other tp too

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could be a problem if you swap both tps at the same time

hexed idol
torn meteor
hexed idol
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i replaced her with underflow

torn meteor
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this should be good for now, just upgrade things when you can

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make sure proviso and shamare are e2

hexed idol
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thats why i need lots of lmd

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thanks for the tips

torn meteor
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prioritize proviso, she has the fastest return on investment of literally any base worker and its not even close

stoic spoke
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I need some clarification on "Otherwise, self Morale restored per hour +0.5, with an additional +0.5 if the Abyssal Hunter Operator assigned to the Dormitory has full Morale"

If she is resting in Dormitory alone, does she have the "self Morale restored per hour +0.5" or is it for when she's outside of Dormitory (like in training room)?

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so outside of dorms, in CC ig

novel pier
jaunty hare
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HELLPP

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How i convert to 252 from thiss

wind otter
stoic spoke
hushed phoenix
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@jaunty hare here

jaunty hare
stoic spoke
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AmiyaDeskBang try to jump higher

jaunty hare
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Ok problem

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I don’t have the OPs required to run 4 factories

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Let alone 5

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Should i just stay 243 until i get more OPs for Rotations?

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Or do i swap now and just

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Yk, farm

hushed phoenix
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Just don't upgrade office

jaunty hare
hushed phoenix
jaunty hare
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2

hushed phoenix
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Ok

jaunty hare
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I can’t downgrade Office can i?

hushed phoenix
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Ur fine

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U can't

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Lol

jaunty hare
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FUCK

hushed phoenix
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Dw

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I did level 2

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Office too

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It's fine

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U just can't minmax

jaunty hare
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I still got enough power for 5 IIIfactor

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Probably because my right side is still not maxed

hushed phoenix
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Preferably u want 2 level 3 trading

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Unless u have proviso then one have to be level 2 tp

jaunty hare
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Lemme change them to 3 2 2 2 2 Factories so i can up the right buildings

jaunty hare
jaunty hare
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Cause lower level means lower slots needing coverage

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So i’d have 4 extra Ops for a 5th Fac

jaunty hare
stoic spoke
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also, a factory in itself is base 100% productivity

jaunty hare
stoic spoke
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yeah so put anyone

jaunty hare
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Bruh

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Ok i’ll do that ig

hushed phoenix
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U can skip reception

jaunty hare
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Ok vro

hushed phoenix
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I only did it cuz pinboard mission

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Texas is ass

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But I collect ops

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I think without level 3 reception u might be able to do more level 3

stoic spoke
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and pinboard was the only way to get her?

jaunty hare
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Ok here’s my base now

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I can get one more Fac III as soon as i get enough drones

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Do i do 3 EXP 2 Gold for my Facs

orchid bane
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As many gold as you need to keep your TP work

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Too many gold is a waste , not enough gold is bad

hushed phoenix
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But imagine wasting recruitment on Texas

orchid bane
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She has her own tags

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Vanguard /Dp-rec + CC

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Not so hard to get her

hushed phoenix
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What if the tag drop

stoic spoke
rigid plume
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Multiple tags could increase chances to not dropout

stoic spoke
remote bison
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currently i have 33322 factories on 2 exp 3 gold. but those 2 golds are on lvl2 factories.
now that im slowly draining gold and have sufficient exp, i want to change to golds on lvl3 and exp on only lvl2.
thing is what are some good 2man exp team since im only good with 3man?
https://krooster.com/u/nocchimiere

weak kraken
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Plox send your rotation

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I just fking upgraded perception information and worldly plight

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Thinking it was good......

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And now this just rocks my world T-T

orchid bane
weak kraken
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Are these all 252

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Im running basic 234 base....

orchid bane
weak kraken
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Is this a good idea.....

orchid bane
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You said 252 and then 234

weak kraken
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243

orchid bane
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It is like you are building 4 PP

weak kraken
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Lmao

orchid bane
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Saw that too

weak kraken
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Oh wait are yall all using the proviso fiametta strat?

orchid bane
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Also I am

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234

stoic spoke
stoic spoke
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orundum farmer

weak kraken
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Bruh

stoic spoke
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truely endgame

orchid bane
stoic spoke
orchid bane
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what is that TP number ?

weak kraken
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Phew

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The only thing i hate is how you cant have both mulbery and whisperain in HR

stoic spoke
weak kraken
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At the same time T-T

orchid bane
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but why Jaye ?

stoic spoke
orchid bane
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I thought he could only go with cap member ?

stoic spoke
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he's e0 sorry

orchid bane
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how many order slot you got there ?

stoic spoke
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40% with lv3 TP

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e0 jaye

orchid bane
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tbh Idr his skill

stoic spoke
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4% for every free order slot

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TP lv3 has 10 slots

orchid bane
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he don't - slot at E0 ?

stoic spoke
orchid bane
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I want him

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permanent account damaged

stoic spoke
orchid bane
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do you know Gnosis cursed team ?

stoic spoke
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don't know

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Gnosisless SkadiDaijoubu

orchid bane
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Gnosis CC and TP E0 Jaye (Swire2 SA iirc)

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145% TP

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-4 each order ofc

torn meteor
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i recently checked, gnosis was actually my 2nd 6star from not new player banner

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first was getting jumped by reedalt on marcille

stoic spoke
orchid bane
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I know your team

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Kirara is like 45% for your 2nd TP

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but that team can be sub

stoic spoke
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but theyre 24x7 fia

orchid bane
stoic spoke
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gold is already enough

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so not fiaing fac workers

stoic spoke
orchid bane
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I still gonna use that team

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If I have it

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So you fia your pozy team ?

stoic spoke
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yes, gold is enough

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and proviso would benefit with pozy team's boost

orchid bane
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In my rotation there are room for Delphine team

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Weaker version of that cursed team

stoic spoke
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glasgow is good

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i lack siege

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otherwise shamare would've been replaced

orchid bane
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Gnosis also have some MD for CC

stoic spoke
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nice

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when do you use gladiia?

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like 17-7-12-17-7-12 hr rotations?

orchid bane
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I don't have something like that

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That number

orchid bane
orchid bane
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But if you can

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Use Gnosis cursed team and put kirara to 2nd TP

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Different story there

stoic spoke
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currently it's pozy + tuye + mrnothing/jaye = 195%/205%
shamare = 90%

orchid bane
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Gnosis team 145%, your TP 2 will be 160%

old lagoon
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Should I build the cat for base if I have tragodia

pale yoke
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no

stoic spoke
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wait I also don't have degen WarLaugh

stoic spoke
orchid bane
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Your eben is not more than 40% ?

stoic spoke
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eben is 0% in shamare TP

orchid bane
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I know

stoic spoke
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so good right?

orchid bane
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But him alone is how many % ?

stoic spoke
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20% for rosmontis

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his TP % is low

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so didn't check

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38% i think

orchid bane
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Oh oke

stoic spoke
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but I also don't have HR lv3

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so it'll be lower

pale yoke
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or 43 DocSmile

stoic spoke
orchid bane
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Well he just said no HR3

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Should be lower than that

stoic spoke
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28%

orchid bane
stoic spoke
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no arturia aswell

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25%

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meh shamare good

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I should pull Eben

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mon3tr, hoe, eben in the next orienteering

winged hollow
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wait eben?

valid storm
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Eben is cool

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I use him with the Suis

winged hollow
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prov eben nothing good?

valid storm
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Yes, with nothing

winged hollow
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actually I use Mul because I need tp boost instead of whis

stoic spoke
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source : The sheetā„¢

winged hollow
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I know I usually run him with nothing

stoic spoke
west tapir
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So i found a stable income of XP books generation while spending all the drone speedups on XP.
But the LMD generation is fluctuating hard with 10K differences

frank cipher
stoic spoke
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we can run dynamic rotations. instead of fixed time swaps, swap in as soon as the team's morale recovers, so the high productivity teams have minimum downtime

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time to automate it

fluid pollen
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Great.

stoic spoke
fluid pollen
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Remember to put that phrase in a strikethrough.

stoic spoke
willow dune
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is it efficient to feed the skill book craft to ncd

orchid bane
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0-35, yes

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36-39 should still be for Tier 4

wind otter
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Nasti better be a trainer, we need more trainers

torn meteor
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we need more workers that care about other specific workers being in base

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in general what i want from new base workers is for them to make it easier to access high end bases

wind otter
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how long have you being playing Arknights?

torn meteor
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i started around laptop banner

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my base is close cuz i lucksacked but i need more sui plus viv skadi andreanna for my base to be near done for now

wind otter
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oh, that makes sense, you're fairly new and young, full of dreams and hope, it will just take a couple more years before HG crushes all of that

torn meteor
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and shit like dorothy

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god am i really going to build multiple 6stars just for 2% efficiency on my gladiia rot in my level 2 exp factory (yes)

wind otter
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well, what's the alternative? building a 6 star that is going to be powercrept in two or three years? this is the advantage of base, rarely any powercreep ChenMad which calls back to my comment above

torn meteor
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im not hoping for more upgrades to base cuz thats cope as fuck, but more sidegrades could genuinely happen

wind otter
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yeah, we get sidegrades here and there once a blue moon

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summer events tend to have something decent

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like Pepe and her unlimited potential

trail roost
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odd question but how come eune does noticeably faster than my automation team despite having 0.5 MD vs 0.55 MD?

stoic spoke
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Mlynar, Mon3tr, Kestrel look fresh in the CC. So before their smileys became available, Eunectes had only 0.25 MD reduction assuming the CC had 5 operators. And the others in the factory had 0.3 MD reduction

queen flicker
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assuming team is bryo, thorns alter, gravel, haze/spot: would you stagger them or swap them all out when bryo runs out of morale and sub another team like bubble?

round lichen
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If the sub-team is Bubble, then staggering is better

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If they can do better than 101 then use the sub-team

pale yoke
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I just use AH to sub bryo

wind otter
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AH flex

pale yoke
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yes AH can flex DocSmile

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watching people trying to get ulpi and get spooked by saileach mizuki is really something over the past few days

queen flicker
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can aroma work for 36h in a lvl 3 fac with waai fu BUT with staggers? (12h shifts) meaning in the two shifts she is with waai fu, she is fine, but that one shift she isn't, i think she can't last for the remaining 12h. did the calc and she last for 10h but idk can someone confirm? LappDumb

trail roost
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even if there was a 0.05 MD diff i don’t feel like it’d result in 4/24 vs 9/24

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just confuses me

wind otter
stoic spoke
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Then what is it

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Did your factory get full?

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They stop working/don't lose morale when factory is full

wind otter
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MONTHLY RESET

pale yoke
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nu uh

wind otter
wind otter
little ledge
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I alr built shamare
Tequila first or Kafka?

pale yoke
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teq

wind otter
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your tequila bias is showing

pale yoke
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Honestly, I prefer vodka

wind otter
pale yoke
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BPCozy having now as a matter of fact

fluid pollen
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Everyone shld have Teq bias.

wind otter
orchid bane
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New week and new month again

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Finally enough nodule to m3 s2 for trago

pale yoke
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y not just buy from token shop lol

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parametric

orchid bane
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There are T2 rocc in paremetric

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So

pale yoke
orchid bane
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All the nodule I have atm, before buying from greencert

wind otter
orchid bane
pale yoke
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Just noticed I need to make more polym

pale yoke
# orchid bane

I'm actually considering his S1 to match with Chen Sui

wind otter
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two vodkas and you start talking about polyamory

orchid bane
pale yoke
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Real

pale yoke
wind otter
orchid bane
fluid pollen
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Why is red giving m9 to a French man.

wind otter
rigid plume
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Gimme some too

pale yoke
wind otter
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it's from ingame, official HellaKek

pale yoke
orchid bane
stoic spoke
obsidian linden
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why they can work for 60 hr not 36?

stoic spoke
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Scene lasts 36hrs as she doesn't have the extra 0.25 self MD reduction

winged hollow
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how some of my base slaves morale reach 0 but still yellow smiley?

stoic spoke
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but game doesn't show decimals

winged hollow
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so I won't know when they die to milk them more time?

trail roost
# stoic spoke Did your factory get full?

thats what i thought as well but my automation team matches my power plant workers’ morale, just eunectes is considerably lower
maybe i just didnt fully rest her last cycle and didnt notice, idk ChenShrug
if theres no easy explanation oh well ill just be more careful in the future

obsidian linden
weak kraken
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Holy shit

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Mr nothing worldly plight proviso is fking nuts

stoic spoke
pale yoke
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Chestnut...?

mental plinth
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How do we use presets with shifts? I am following the low rarity guide but it uses 4 shifts but there are only 3 presets

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This is for lv3 trading posts

cedar steeple
# orchid bane

I used all my big mats stockpile on modules and Phantom2. I have to craft more lol

cedar steeple
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ok crafted some. Will replenish t4 stocks next rest cycle downtime.

quick relic
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cursed

torn meteor
little ledge
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Hmmm,what can i do

frank cipher
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you can burn 200 lmd make it 1234

orchid bane
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Wait proviso in gold cert store, 2 days left

pale yoke
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uWu what are you waiting for?

orchid bane
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Ofc I have her

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But maybe someone need her

wind otter
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red no proviso? smh

orchid bane
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I have no Idea what to tell you, smh my head

frank cipher
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-# quick go spread provisolumination in other channel

valid storm
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Running the base without Provisio is permanent account damage

winged hollow
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I never stand orundum numbers like that

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last time it happened to me I have to do cursed run to round up the number

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iirc it was annihilation 1

arctic prism
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i assume we getting another one in about a month or so for anniversary

jaunty notch
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you will

wind otter
arctic prism
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paying 45 gold certs to use proviso for one month RedOmegaLul

wind otter
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don't judge him

torn meteor
wind otter
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global anniversary 5 star selector on January

wind otter
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Nasti base skill will be as original as her kit, trust DocSmile

valid storm
torn meteor
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finally i'll have warfarin

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i need MORE HYPERBUFFING

pale yoke
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im just happy we getting more rhine event after so long

valid storm
torn meteor
valid storm
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Especially with the free Texas

torn meteor
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true

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actually i might choose andreanna off it instead of warf

valid storm
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No, Warfie is cute

torn meteor
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ok but full ah for base

valid storm
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No, that's a horrible idea

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They aren't good

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get the full Sui team

torn meteor
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cant i just use both

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i dont see why i cant use both gladiia ah and sui

valid storm
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You cannot use the filthy fishes

torn meteor
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i wish to do split timing rotations where i do AH while i sleep on an 8h 16h cycle with staggered other things on 12h 12h 12h

valid storm
torn meteor
valid storm
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the Church

torn meteor
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which church?

valid storm
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The Church of the Deep

stoic spoke
round lichen
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So now that regular 80% byproduct skills can give basically worthless mats if they drop a loxic, manganese, or grindstone, are Corroserum stocks on the rise?

stoic spoke
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terra needs to invent the technologia that converts kohl into orundum shards

inner ocean
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first time i felt like i hit the jackpot.

winged hollow
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first time?

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look fine enough

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can I go higher than this?

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oh vigil

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this is better

primal wind
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i dont know that i do correctly for dormitory worker?
1ST+1Aoe morale recovery each dorm ?

torn meteor
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without specific rotations in mind its not worth giving up a dorm slot for the sake of dorm workers

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when you are doing those specific rotations though yes you do use 1 aoe 1 st

fleet wolf
torn meteor
fleet wolf
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should e2 tecno for art

torn meteor
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yes ta

stoic spoke
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2 durins go in training room workshop, rest 2 <myrtle,Durin> in dorms

torn meteor
stoic spoke
torn meteor
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and just having more free dorm slots does more to patch up mistakes than slightly faster morale recovery

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again this is without specific setups in mind

stoic spoke
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isn't that leeway reason enough

torn meteor
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except removing free dorm slots is less leeway, dorm workers arent cutting enough time off to be better than just having more free slots when you arent logging in more than 1-2 times per day

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in general i assume people who arent off the deep end with optimization are only logging in 2 times per day

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and if somebody needs to ask about dorm workers they arent off the deep end yet

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barring specific setups it doesnt really matter if you recover 2 morale per hour or 2.4 per hour, either way you have your 12 hour shift ready

stoic spoke
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they're not really there to cut time, but to provide leeway/cover up when we miss the rotation time

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again the full 20 slots aren't needed at once, if it is, the rotation arrangement needs improvement

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and ideally you don't want to keep free dorm slots because skills like mrnothing and ebenholz benefit with full dorms.

torn meteor
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ig it depends more on how you normally fuck things up, usually when i fuck things up i need to rest more workers than normal because somebody died that wasnt supposed to

torn meteor
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this has reminded me i should put my podenco in a dorm, theres no reason not to since shes 2 in 1

queen flicker
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my dorms after most shifts: FiaDed

stoic spoke
queen flicker
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can aroma work for 36h in a lvl 3 fac with waai fu BUT with staggers? (12h shifts) meaning in the two shifts she is with waai fu, she is fine, but that one shift she isn't, i think she can't last for the remaining 12h. did the calc and she last for 10h but idk could someone confirm pls?

winged hollow
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stagger with ramp up won't go well together

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I work them for 24h

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easy to replace out

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maximum 27h

chilly patio
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does exualt base passive activate on herself?

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ah thx

urban orchid
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I wish nasti can boost Rhine Factory Team to go higher than 100% DocSmile

round lichen
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Aroma loses 13.8 morale in the 12 hours she doesn’t have Waai Fu

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Then 7.8 morale in 12 hours when working with Waai Fu

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So she dies in 27.69 hours

winged hollow
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Then 27 maximum is correct

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Why would you want to run them maximum capacity

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The dorm will crowded

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Especially with lvl1 252

round lichen
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Maybe I misread what you were saying. I thought you were saying ā€œdon’t stagger Aroma because it will reset her ramp,ā€ not ā€œstaggering her partner causes too much MDā€

winged hollow
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Don't stagger her

winged hollow
urban orchid
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Still a bit sad Mayer skill doesn't get included in Dorothy boost skill

round lichen
winged hollow
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She can still work as substitute

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I go all the way with wp team

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Still use ros with eben tho

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All wp also mean shu and jie yun

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Which isn't optinal because it suck subpar fac with only 5% more for tp

wind otter
#

||glaze uptake||

fluid pollen
#

Well not even extra 5% for tp bc you can place Shu on right side buildings.

vernal moss
#

should i buy proviso from cert shop if I'm doing 252 with maxed tps and i dont have any of her best partners (yet)

wind otter
vernal moss
#

oh nice

winged hollow
#

And no i can't put sui in TR i need RL for mumu drone boost

little ledge
#

I dont get it
These ppl all have 0.25 md but they only work for 10 hours

round lichen
#

The timer shows time until the Fac reaches capacity OR operator becomes tired, whichever is lower

stoic spoke
#

time until the Fac reaches capacity is useless

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why show it

rigid plume
#

Because it stops working then.

stoic spoke
#

if someone is busy enough to not login twice a day, I don't think some timer is going to convince them to login and collect some virtual gold bars

fluid pollen
#

Lmao

round lichen
wind otter
#

man, that collab with popucom was šŸ”„ hope they do a rerun

winged hollow
round lichen
#

Yes

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So put her in TR

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And put an actually good combo in Fac

queen flicker
#

does hr office have innate MD?

fluid pollen
#

No

remote bison
#

what are some highend 2man exp team

#

or is it just 30% padding

fluid pollen
#

It’s basically just % padding but with 35%+ exp ops.

winged hollow
#

thank you now my tp is better

remote bison
#

damn scene vermeil and vulcan bubbul are both 67% expšŸ„€

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now this is the part i wish i could do PI

queen flicker
#

has anyone tried a 342 setup with one tp just pepe?

fluid pollen
frank cipher
#

432
yes tho still prefer 40%

queen flicker
#

i thought 3 tp was the limit

fluid pollen
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So there’s just no relevant combos better than just piling % in lvl 2 exp, for maxed base wise.

fluid pollen
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But it doesn’t provide any real value to do so.

remote bison
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its 33322 coz lvl2 office

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and i want 3 gold on lvl3

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umamusume is gifting so much shit cause pr*viso is secretly conspirating with tracen with the golds

fluid pollen
#

Idk what you just said and I’m not about to question anything.

remote bison
queen flicker
#

is there like a % gold efficiency estimation to keep up with best proviso and shamare team?

frank cipher
#

342 pepe could work altho she just split gold/lmd 50/50

queen flicker
#

i mean like a total % between all gold facs

frank cipher
#

assuming 40% prov need 180% gold, 80% : 360% yeah give up

queen flicker
#

hypothetically speaking, 342 pepe with 2 gold 2 exp could work if the 2 gold facs can sustain proviso and shamare. or just use 3 gold 1 exp but that seems worse than standard 252 right. reading pepe special order skill, looks like it doesn't produce much lmd to sacrifice an exp fac over it

fluid pollen
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Someone did math when Pepe released and concluded that she’s worse efficiency than even U official if we simulated that it was a mixed fac/tp she was in.

torn meteor
#

ngl i might just run 2 smiley gladiia with like mon3tr, if i use dorm workers i def get enough rest for my workers

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i might not bother with pinus because pinus plus ah is a pain to stagger without extra logins

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not to mention pinus is only 105 until i get viviana so i can easily just drop a lil efficiency to make my life easier

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and my pinus isnt built yet so roi despairge

wind otter
#

this is not the place to be talking about your pinus

pale yoke
wind otter
torn meteor
#

im also debating downgrading a factory to bring proviso tp back to level 3 and use eben nothing and lemuen exu as proviso partners

torn meteor
torn meteor
#

i dont dislike the idea too much because using eben helps offset the drop in productivity thanks to rosmontis and theres a world in which i make too much gold anyway

winged hollow
#

in the world of suffering of 252 user

torn meteor
winged hollow
#

I suggest if you are irl heavy use 243

pale yoke
#

i like that term "irl heavy"

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that's one roundabout way to call someone fat

torn meteor
#

im not so busy irl that i need to 243 but i dont have the time or energy to curse

winged hollow
#

in my line of work not like I have time to look at my phone every single time, I have 30' break to check my phone so 243 fit my schedule

pale yoke
winged hollow
#

I suggest to dump your orundum shard 1 week before any banners

torn meteor
#

im just running a 252 where i log in twice a day, i plan to change that to 3 times per day but i dont have enough workers quite yet

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(3 times is to stagger while maintaining an AH rot)

winged hollow
#

don't wait until the actual banner run you don't have enough % to dump it all, blueball by your own stock

torn meteor
#

im not at the point of considering AO

winged hollow
#

you will and shall

torn meteor
#

my account is still sub 1 year

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AO is for when i have enough built characters to make me completely satisfied

#

i still think 100k lmd is worth something im too young for AO

winged hollow
#

for example you can make 1 pull per day, but banner only last 2 weeks so maximum you can make 14 pulls entire time of the banner, won't recommend do AO in the mean time when desperate pull

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with my own result I can make upto 800 Orundum per day by using exodia

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still not enough

weak kraken
#

how should i be understanding these numbers?

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Is trading post lmd a 48 hr cycle or 24 hr cycle?

#

Somehow i mnaaged to hit 78000k previously but now using the same set up its down to 56000

winged hollow
#

the cycle at the server reset time

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if you collect consistently at the same time the result will be the same

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for example I collect 2 times a day so by reset time I still 78k

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but somehow I forgot collect sonner or later the result like yours

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it doesn't matter

#

if you do the math it's the same

stoic spoke
winged hollow
#

or 2 fac each at least 1.2 if exodia can make it 1.5

stoic spoke
stoic spoke
#

damn, it is really consistently 81k gold/lmd

#

don't ask for the third day

winged hollow
#

tp 2.0 wtf how

winged hollow
#

poz kirara prov?

stoic spoke
#

pozy + tuye + 40%(or higher) + 7% CC

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kirara in other another tp

winged hollow
#

so no shamare?

stoic spoke
#

kirara can stay with shamare

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or you can keep kirara, pozy, tuye in one tp and glasgow in another tp

#

when cursing only thing that matters is total %

winged hollow
#

wait... so you just force the best % fuck proviso and shamare altogether?

#

give me your rotation

stoic spoke
winged hollow
#

wtf mean cursed proviso don't tell me everytime they produce the next batch you remove proviso then add tuye in then repeat?

stoic spoke
#

yes

winged hollow
#

I knew it

stoic spoke
#

isn't that called cursed proviso

winged hollow
#

this unemployed behavior

stoic spoke
#

did I say I do it manually

winged hollow
#

how many durin do you need

stoic spoke
#

4 durins + 4 gold factories

winged hollow
#

we have 5 durin

stoic spoke
#

yes, but her skill limits it to 4 durins max

#

pozy's skill

orchid bane
winged hollow
#

my minimalist is 40% fac

orchid bane
#

Don't ask for tomorrow

orchid bane
winged hollow
stoic spoke
winged hollow
#

if i consistent with my AO I can make upto 2 pull a day

stoic spoke
winged hollow
#

I do AO for fun not for pull

stoic spoke
#

so much rotating around

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exp to gold to orundumb

orchid bane
winged hollow
weak kraken
#

How in the

torn meteor
winged hollow
#

I mean at a point you have too much orundum AO is just for fun

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the contribution is little

torn meteor
#

ahhh

winged hollow
#

AO for f2p is essential

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but I rather pay a small price than a hassle

odd echo
#

it's beautiful (just got gnosis so I could finally e1 jaye after 5 years)

remote bison
#

i just realized marcille is a 30% generic fac

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even without dunmeshi team

orchid bane
arctic prism
#

worse than leveling right side??

orchid bane
orchid bane
opal dock
#

does hoederer's base skill work with wisadel or only W?

orchid bane
arctic prism
inner ocean
#

with context, yeah, I wouldn't level RR or HR

#

RR levels really got irrelevant fast for me the moment they gave you a huge amt of friend cap in an update

arctic prism
#

same

inner ocean
#

what does a max left allow again? lemme check pins

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oh....

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just 2 levels for a non-workshop

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that won't do for me since I really want TR3

torn meteor
inner ocean
#

can the non-workshop, right-side facilty levels be swappable?

#

I'm seeing a 3311

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but if I start a new profile

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can i do a 1313?

torn meteor
#

i wish rr just didnt take extra power to level because ignoring it means you cant rent out any 6stars to people

arctic prism
#

p sure all the right side facilities use equal power iirc? so should all be swappable

torn meteor
#

surely they make rr stop taking power aPES2_SadGeCopium

arctic prism
#

so 1313 with one lv2 tp and all facs lv3 should be doable iirc

inner ocean
#

those would be the best friends for RR1 players

torn meteor
#

i like being able to borrow and rent out characters and its cringe its tied to rr level and that its suboptimal to level rr

inner ocean
inner ocean
arctic prism
#

yea

inner ocean
#

even if said dream means using Passenger/Flit, etc.

torn meteor
#

i dont care about the trust rooms those are fine, but encouraging being selfish by making leveling rr bad is cringe

inner ocean
#

I respect the hustle

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as a minmax, endgame player

torn meteor
#

i can respect doing it but dont expect me to let you use one of my friend slots

arctic prism
#

ye same if i see a lv120 player with 2 supports id be like dam ok respect

inner ocean
#

that's what we've been waiting for.....something so trivial

torn meteor
#

i see

inner ocean
#

the upgrade to the RR room is nice though

torn meteor
#

sorry rr upgrade?

inner ocean
#

RR room used to be smaller, non-customizable, no music player, etc

torn meteor
#

oh that

inner ocean
#

old times

torn meteor
#

the music player is nice but i dont care much about the other parts

arctic prism
#

free 300 credits per week making dorm levels even more worthless RedOmegaLul

inner ocean
#

this "complete" base

#

has made dorm levels for friend points more trivial

#

and made RR levels for friend cap more trivial

arctic prism
#

yup

#

so many buffs for 252 max left

#

and yet no way to go from max right to max left

jaunty notch
#

we give you all these rewards for something you could never achieve

#

that's the ultimate punishment

#

they know

inner ocean
#

the cope for me back then was right side doesn't take any energy ffs....

#

because it just feels weird that workshop gets the exception purely so you can't softlock your base upgrading

arctic prism
#

I mean you cant really softlock your base building since you can always just downgrade something from left and build more power plants

#

it's just

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very inefficient is all

inner ocean
#

no i mean....

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if workshop actually needs energy and higher base mat requirements to build

#

i can imagine in a really rare situation

#

you can softlock your base progress

#

ok to be more specific, i meant Workshop level upgrading

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i feel like that's why they never allow right side facilities to be demolished/downgraded

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cause they affect either base progression or utilities outside base

#

and coding the option in sounds like hell

arctic prism
#

im confused
what would stop you from just getting rid of some other buildings and upgrading workshop tho

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bc workshop should be able to produce whatever it needs to upgrade itself

inner ocean
#

i was thinking.......right side facilities upgraded to higher levels you can't downgrade (still low level base)

#

you hit cap

#

and theoretically, Workshop needs higher energy consumption going to lvl2 and lvl 3

#

although yeah by that point, Workshop lvl 3 is required to level the OTHER right side facilities

#

i think it's just a weird theory in my head that you can "potentially" softlock

arctic prism
#

worst case tho you can just

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demolish your whole left side

#

build 5 power plants

inner ocean
#

no i mean.....

#

oh yeah

#

you can make everything PP

#

on left side

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as a solution

#

even if there's only 1 floor, that's 3 facilities

#

anyways I don't really get why they needed the other right side facilities to have higher energy cost on upgrading them especially when they can't be downgraded.

arctic prism
inner ocean
#

especially goddamn dorm levels

torn meteor
inner ocean
#

HR affects recruit slots, RR affects friend slots

#

i guess those are the only nightmares

torn meteor
#

ye

inner ocean
#

downgrading TR doesn't do much since you still have to input the training itself and it doesn't reverse operators that have gotten to M3

#

I'm just saying....Workshop level up requirements are so lenient

#

its like it was designed to be un-softlock-able even if you can downgrade it

jaunty notch
#

damn nobody reads huh

#

CN moved the maint time up 4h earlier

#

like months ago

inner ocean
#

I'm aware

#

it's hilarious that Global did too

#

but only for 2 hrs earlier

inner ocean
#

So we finally have Mumu factory-edition
this is naturally gonna be useful on the 1 of 4 shifts where I use Mumu
I'm thinking if there's a way for her to be used in more dominant shifts (Mumu-less, Sui-more)....but that would mean putting most Rhine labs ops in dorms since the Suis would be using up most of the other facilities
what's your thoughts on her, Gato?
Mumu-only shifts/1-shift/sub or can be inserted into 2-3 shift combos?

torn meteor
pale yoke
#

rhine on the rise

inner ocean
#

i mean.....hmmm

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with Nasti included

#

would this mean Doro + Silencer + Nasti is.....how much prod

#

lemme check if Gato has done it already

#

he has

#

110%....

rare galleon
inner ocean
#

Jessalter BS is still the better sub for EXP

#

but RL is better for gold sub

jaunty notch
#

oh whoops ping

inner ocean
#

it's been forever since i checked my max prod for each combo

#

I need to review if RL combo is only for sub or if I have room for it to ever main anything

jaunty notch
#

not to mention frees up the TR

#

since you need 1 fewer Rhine op

#

the only downside of her is that she can't work in dead lancet rots

inner ocean
#

Gato, I'm a bit lazy, can you review my excel for me for Nasti improvements?

torn meteor
#

i dont care fuck dead lancet

jaunty notch
#

i'm ending my fields

inner ocean
#

She can, can't she?

#

just add more RL in dorm?

jaunty notch
#

so no

torn meteor
#

i will RL eventually

jaunty notch
#

yeah sure, but you'd want to trigger her and muel at the same time

inner ocean
#

indeed

jaunty notch
#

also nasti breaks the 4th wall

inner ocean
#

but Mumu is stuck in 1 shift out of the entire loop

jaunty notch
#

well that's you, i use her in 2

#

like nasti's skill openly admits it costs a shit ton to use it

#

it's in the name

#

"high budget"

#

cuz you need 4 more e2s, 1 dorothy and 1 muel

inner ocean
#

thats not an issue for me at least

jaunty notch
#

it's just funny

inner ocean
#

iirc the only RL that's still unraised is Astgenne

#

I'll just make a theoretical build with Nasti. But I'm still not set on pulling for her

#

For now I'm just gonna pray she spooks me, like Thornstar

torn meteor
#

praying for RL dorm workers so i dont have to dorm micromanage with RL

inner ocean
#

Hell, I don't know if my greed build will pay off with Hoshitter in an alter CC sub

torn meteor
#

im pulling nasti i require all banshees

inner ocean
#

My laziness is making me not bother creating a future rotation if I don't plan to get the operator....unless spooked

#

I'll just wait for Nasti's ingame performance if her S2 and S3 is really a must-pull

torn meteor
inner ocean
#

that used to be me

#

but if i'm not getting Nasti, there's really no point

jaunty notch
#

medic: ptil, silence

#

done

inner ocean
#

class filtering made things so fucking easier

jaunty notch
#

any units that are high level will appear first

#

like i used to do the morale not assigned thing

#

but this is way better

inner ocean
#

Prior to it

#

i just memorized how many scrolls

#

and which ops are near who i want

jaunty notch
#

you can also max level them and get them earlier

eternal gyro
#

Hey2, i read Vermeil factory skill (e.g.: pair her with Ceobe + ExecAlter), but the output is not much different with using 3 standard +30% operator ya?

pale yoke
#

or ceobe scene

#

for xp

eternal gyro
#

So its just an additive 16%+44%+41% = 101%?

#

I mean, not much difference compare to combination of 30% base worker, and some 35% base worker

inner ocean
#

those are the first 12 hrs (1 shift)

#

once it's capped, ain't it 106?

rigid plume
inner ocean
#

you only using them as a sub?

eternal gyro
pale yoke
#

you can look at it that way, problem with verm team is the other 2 need to be high value enough to cover verm shortcoming, and that's a really old team tbf

inner ocean
#

in the end, up to you how sweaty you are in optimizing your base

#

some of us here sweat hard for a 5%

pale yoke
#

like ancient

inner ocean
#

although i've gotten past the sweatiness of it

#

because I really just can't afford to pull purely for base-only ops

winged hollow
#

No you can but you decided not to

inner ocean
#

yeah my wording on afford here is more like

#

value over capability

#

I no longer see the same value I used to when I was rolling for Pinus Sylvestris all the way back when they released

winged hollow
#

Base meta also get powercreep overtime

inner ocean
#

gotta be conservative with my luck if I want to top up as little as possible for my AK bliss

#

for me it's been a while since it has halted a bit

winged hollow
#

I won't pull for nasti just for gold boost

inner ocean
#

with only 1-5% improvements

winged hollow
#

Come on i have ros

inner ocean
#

Nasti right now is just a 12 hr sub improvement

#

not a 24-36 hr shift combo improvement

torn meteor
winged hollow
#

I want more cc ops which boost hr

#

The only good thing with current rl that i can stagger them

#

Not tie with any combo but supar outcome

inner ocean
#

yaeh even with 3 gold, none of them are lower than Nasti's combo

#

So even in a 3 gold, Nasti is gonna be a sub. Which is why I'm not too motivated to get her for base-purposes-only.

orchid bane
#

Isn't she 40% ?

#

She could replace Marcille there ?

pale yoke
#

SkadiDaijoubu would've been nice if she was xp

inner ocean
#

using RL ops in base is no longer ever common for me

#

rarity of using duo Doro and Silencer with someone else as a sub in 3 EXP

#

and the typical Mumu shifts

#

even then I don't feel like pulling for Nasti just for that

#

if we're talking base must pull:

#

it has to be either a worthwhile combo creator (not sub-tier),

#

or a really amazing improvement to an existing combo (Nasti isn't TOO amazing and the combo is still sub-tier),

#

or Proviso levels of absurd

#

it's actually interesting you brought it up too since Nasti would actually be more valuable if she wasn't used with Dorothy (and used off-shift from Mumu) and was included in 2-ops combos in a 3-slot gold factory

#

as to why.....because my subs tend to be subbed out by AH combo after 4 hrs of their shift

#

@jaunty notch Is Zyf still active here?

valid storm
inner ocean
#

then I'll bother him IF I get a Nasti

valid storm
eternal gyro
#

Hey, for AH Team, basically even if Ulpi, Specter, Underflow doesnt have any Factory skill, they will do +40% Factory production as long as Gladia is in the CC? (note: i only have Ulpi, Specter, Underflow)

torn meteor
#

with only 2 of them they are 20s

pale yoke
#

@orchid bane 2 more hour til proviso out of gold cert shop

fleet wolf
#

SkadiDaijoubu error 500 right when its time to drone

frank cipher
#

prov shop value depend if you got shama or teq in roaster as you can get her in next month

pale yoke
#

error at the same time as my fia dammit

fleet wolf
#

ReedBean i got 13 mins left b4 the order ends

pale yoke
#

i was in game waiting for fia timer and when it's done i got kick out by error 500 LappCry

#

idk the rest of the timer but can't be good

#

people are saying 4hr downtime

fleet wolf
frank cipher
#

fail fia? yes permanent base damage

pale yoke
#

red will miss his proviso too

#

yea indeed

#

literally bricked account

valid storm
#

this is on him

pale yoke
#

have to quit and just play single player game from now on

inner ocean
#

this is a single player game though

pale yoke
valid storm
pale yoke
#

i think jusan meant to say he's single and playing this game, just a misunderstanding from my phrasing

inner ocean
#

we all know the AK friends are all constructs of our mind

rare galleon
#

So, we are actually in one hive mind?

inner ocean
#

yes, seaborn brethren

pale yoke
rare galleon
pale yoke
wind otter
#

mofos disconnect the game when a rotation rest ended and right when I removed Dusk for a little Fia, them sons of witches