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Chestnut

Maybe I should update... how outdated is it...
Damn, last one was Banana

make moar
Nah, Im good
dam
Where would you place Skadi and Spector in the 2nd shift(labelled 24hr)?
Old rotation used Ceobe in FAC 4 GOLD, but she will lose ramp if swapped out.
just a quick check, the current strongest base combo for CC is hoshi2 swire for 7% TP 3% fact?
for ave musica they gives like 60 fever at all 5 e2?
60 fever gives 4% precious metal in fact and 7%? for TP I guess
also for nyamu her base skill is RR +5% or 10% at e2?
pins link4 has everything you wanna know https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zYc2JU46X0XWmV7s1503bN4feRdOMa1eehrTQ2jGaiE/edit?gid=2014412838#gid=2014412838&range=B308:K308
can someone check if umiri base skill affect shamare for the siracusan 5% TP?
no
buff siracusan.
shamare being siracusan.
can't buff shamare.
very hypergryph like 
shamare cancels everything
even Endfield?
So, that's a yes
can't wait base nerds get crazy over endfield base
we can't go crazy over something that doesn't exist
ok miss wife
Do the numbers in the operators info actually display how much time they got left? Cuz if so, then the FAC team can work for 9 more hours, yet Mr. Nothingburger has only 15 left, despite having the exact same morale
god forbid man having fun schizo anything related to base
Minmax every tile and space

Hope I can build 333 there too just to prove 333 is better
Factory: Dead or cap
Trade : Dead
||RR, Office: Dead or next clue , next refresh 𤔠||
Probs just have to fully replace that 4th gold fac and lose ramp.
Or replace Verm Figurino with Skadi Specter, and leave Ceobe running at 25%, but thatās just worse?

Bryo restore soon
||Bubble skin
||
just a few banners left...
fuck using haze thornsalt gravel

sure would be nice if we have more space to have her walking around in that amirite
You'll still use those 
nono the fuck using thing was about haze
i want her to be filler at most

rn my level 3 factory teams are
vermeil scene fedex
haze thornsalt gravel
bubble vulcan bena
i rotate bubble vulcan bena into both when they need to rest
id be moving haze into a level 2 factory until i get either dorothy or skadi plus andreanna
is 30k lmd on riic report is good enough i want to make lots of lmd
are those teams for 3 different facs or the same one?
thats pretty low for a lategame setup, its pretty easy to make 45k once you start investing in dedicated base workers, high quality setups make upwards of 60k lmd per day
vermeil scene and thornsalt gravel are 2 different factories, i use bubble vulcan to let both factories rest
i see. why not add spot into thorsalt team and stagger all 4? then you can use bubble team somewhere else. or is it because you dont have any more lvl 3 facs?
im max right so i only have 2, but also im not willing to go through the effort of staggering 4 ops in a level 3 factory and itd be a noticeable productivity drop if i didnt, and my exp doesnt have a good 2nd team
i have pinus but its all e0 and no viv
surely they give us a 4th preset 
the most micromanagement i want to do atm is fia swapping
i was asking because very soon ill finish e2 vulcan and im not totally sure what to replace
but i think its has to be fac 3 right. then use fac 3 leftovers as a sub team for both bubble and vermeil right. and i can stop using fang kroos
so should i change my base from this 252 to other, first tp is exu lemuen exualter, second is proviso shamra tequila
should i lie remove 1 factory and build another tp
exu alter skill doesnt work with og exu
make it exu lemuen proviso and a tailoring op with shamare tequila
i thought og exu is from latero too
base is weird with factions, let me use skadi alter as an example. skadi alter doesnt count as AH because shes an alter
in base an operator can only be one faction
is this good enough?
wheres shamare?
wait wheres shamare? i thought you said you had her?

shamare should be with tequila
cut kirara put shamare with tequila then put another 30 with mitm mousse
here
looks like e0 mitm
yes
oh yeah it is, then mitm should also be replaced with a 30
wait no kirara isnt good without pozemka tuye dont use her
also with lemuen use og exu instead
like this
that looks good
so everythings fine now?
yep
should i get another tp
alright
whats you sub team for tp1?
these
should i use exu alter and other laternos to replace this formation
looks good
nope, theres not enough good laterano workers and since exualter counts as an alter shes only a 30
uh oh
catapult is in the other tp too
could be a problem if you swap both tps at the same time
uh yeah mb ill replace her
its not a big problem just something to be concious of
i replaced her with underflow
this should be good for now, just upgrade things when you can
make sure proviso and shamare are e2
yeah im upgrading them
thats why i need lots of lmd
thanks for the tips
prioritize proviso, she has the fastest return on investment of literally any base worker and its not even close
I need some clarification on "Otherwise, self Morale restored per hour +0.5, with an additional +0.5 if the Abyssal Hunter Operator assigned to the Dormitory has full Morale"
If she is resting in Dormitory alone, does she have the "self Morale restored per hour +0.5" or is it for when she's outside of Dormitory (like in training room)?
so outside of dorms, in CC ig

Wait wdym by this? Are you saying if her base skill can work when she isnāt in CC when it said that āwhen this operator is assigned to the control centerā?
you're watching too many endfield base videos 
I was confused if the word "otherwise" in her description had the meaning "when she is in CC, and other abyssal hunter is in dorms" or "when she is outside CC and other abyssal hunter is in dorms"
@jaunty hare here
Canāt jump to message
Ok problem
I donāt have the OPs required to run 4 factories
Let alone 5
Should i just stay 243 until i get more OPs for Rotations?
Or do i swap now and just
Yk, farm
Yeah u could stick to 243 until u have more ops
Just don't upgrade office

2
Ok
I canāt downgrade Office can i?
FUCK
I still got enough power for 5 IIIfactor
Probably because my right side is still not maxed
Preferably u want 2 level 3 trading
Unless u have proviso then one have to be level 2 tp
Lemme change them to 3 2 2 2 2 Factories so i can up the right buildings
Donāt got him
Doing this MIGHT help me deal with my Rotation crisis
Cause lower level means lower slots needing coverage
So iād have 4 extra Ops for a 5th Fac

doubt
Truth
also, a factory in itself is base 100% productivity
But it needs Min 1 OP to start working
yeah so put anyone
Should look like this if u have proviso
Since u don't urs is gonna have 2 level 3 tp and 2 level 3 factories + level 2 rest
U can skip reception
Ok vro
I only did it cuz pinboard mission
Texas is ass

But I collect ops
I think without level 3 reception u might be able to do more level 3
Ok hereās my base now
I can get one more Fac III as soon as i get enough drones
Do i do 3 EXP 2 Gold for my Facs
As many gold as you need to keep your TP work
Too many gold is a waste , not enough gold is bad
No u can get her from recruitment
But imagine wasting recruitment on Texas

did you know that 4 gold with pozy tuye with cursing is perfectly balanced?

it makes gold worth 80k and proviso eats it

currently i have 33322 factories on 2 exp 3 gold. but those 2 golds are on lvl2 factories.
now that im slowly draining gold and have sufficient exp, i want to change to golds on lvl3 and exp on only lvl2.
thing is what are some good 2man exp team since im only good with 3man?
https://krooster.com/u/nocchimiere
Brhh actually how
Plox send your rotation
I just fking upgraded perception information and worldly plight
Thinking it was good......
And now this just rocks my world T-T


You said 252 and then 234
243
It is like you are building 4 PP
Lmao
Oh wait are yall all using the proviso fiametta strat?
proviso + tequila cursing with this rotation. gladiia team hasn't been used yet
Bruh
truely endgame

yes, they're very good. LMD will be around +-65k daily without cursing
why Jaye with those 2 ?
what is that TP number ?
Oh
Phew
The only thing i hate is how you cant have both mulbery and whisperain in HR
I don't have better 
At the same time T-T
but why Jaye ?
195%+7%
I thought he could only go with cap member ?
he's e0 sorry
how many order slot you got there ?
he don't - slot at E0 ?

do you know Gnosis cursed team ?
i recently checked, gnosis was actually my 2nd 6star from not new player banner
first was getting jumped by reedalt on marcille
can't remove kirara
but theyre 24x7 fia
wait there should be Degen there, maybe Jaye Degen SA
also, that gnosis is taking a CC slot, which shamare doesn't require and still gives 90%
Tbh your team is good enough, Delphine can only do 10% more for a CC slot
But if you can
Use Gnosis cursed team and put kirara to 2nd TP
Different story there
how much total % will that be?
currently it's pozy + tuye + mrnothing/jaye = 195%/205%
shamare = 90%
Gnosis team 145%, your TP 2 will be 160%
Should I build the cat for base if I have tragodia
no
so 1 CC slot for 305%
or no CC slot for 285%/295%
wait I also don't have degen 
and I also get to buff rosmo with Eben in shamare TP
Your eben is not more than 40% ?
eben is 0% in shamare TP
I know
so good right?
But him alone is how many % ?
Oh oke
or 43 

28%

no arturia aswell

25%
meh shamare good
I should pull Eben
mon3tr, hoe, eben in the next orienteering
wait eben?
prov eben nothing good?
Yes, with nothing
actually I use Mul because I need tp boost instead of whis
with the full gang, HR3, he's 38% TP in 252 and gives 20% to Ros in FAC.
source : The sheetā¢
I know I usually run him with nothing
So i found a stable income of XP books generation while spending all the drone speedups on XP.
But the LMD generation is fluctuating hard with 10K differences
did you ever clear your lmd/exp and see which is lacking, supposedly lmd/exp ratio should be 1.5 : 1
you gonna stack exp in long term with that prod
uhh so gladiia can fully recover in 7.75hrs in a lv1 Dorm with Lumen(+dead lancet) and Gracebearer 
we can run dynamic rotations. instead of fixed time swaps, swap in as soon as the team's morale recovers, so the high productivity teams have minimum downtime
time to automate it
Great.

is it efficient to feed the skill book craft to ncd
Nasti better be a trainer, we need more trainers
i want nasti to be a cc worker that does something for each banshee in base
we need more workers that care about other specific workers being in base
in general what i want from new base workers is for them to make it easier to access high end bases
how long have you being playing Arknights?
i started around laptop banner
my base is close cuz i lucksacked but i need more sui plus viv skadi andreanna for my base to be near done for now
oh, that makes sense, you're fairly new and young, full of dreams and hope, it will just take a couple more years before HG crushes all of that
and shit like dorothy
god am i really going to build multiple 6stars just for 2% efficiency on my gladiia rot in my level 2 exp factory (yes)
well, what's the alternative? building a 6 star that is going to be powercrept in two or three years? this is the advantage of base, rarely any powercreep
which calls back to my comment above
im not hoping for more upgrades to base cuz thats cope as fuck, but more sidegrades could genuinely happen
yeah, we get sidegrades here and there once a blue moon
summer events tend to have something decent
like Pepe and her unlimited potential
odd question but how come eune does noticeably faster than my automation team despite having 0.5 MD vs 0.55 MD?
Mlynar, Mon3tr, Kestrel look fresh in the CC. So before their smileys became available, Eunectes had only 0.25 MD reduction assuming the CC had 5 operators. And the others in the factory had 0.3 MD reduction
assuming team is bryo, thorns alter, gravel, haze/spot: would you stagger them or swap them all out when bryo runs out of morale and sub another team like bubble?
If the sub-team is Bubble, then staggering is better
If they can do better than 101 then use the sub-team
AH flex
yes AH can flex 
watching people trying to get ulpi and get spooked by saileach mizuki is really something over the past few days
can aroma work for 36h in a lvl 3 fac with waai fu BUT with staggers? (12h shifts) meaning in the two shifts she is with waai fu, she is fine, but that one shift she isn't, i think she can't last for the remaining 12h. did the calc and she last for 10h but idk can someone confirm? 
my alt team with wis + ce has the same MD drain both in CC and across my entire base, mb forgot to mention that
even if there was a 0.05 MD diff i donāt feel like itād result in 4/24 vs 9/24
just confuses me
that's not possible, they are totally in kernel now, for sure, absolutely in kernel 

Then what is it
Did your factory get full?
They stop working/don't lose morale when factory is full
MONTHLY RESET
nu uh


I alr built shamare
Tequila first or Kafka?
teq
your tequila bias is showing
Honestly, I prefer vodka

this is drunk talk

you still promoting tragodia? tragodia is sooo november like damn
Just noticed I need to make more polym
I'm actually considering his S1 to match with Chen Sui
two vodkas and you start talking about polyamory
Look at those juicy 623 kohl, that will surely be useful at the future

Real
Hey hey hay 


Why is red giving m9 to a French man.
that's such a nasty look 
it's from ingame, official 

what do you think š¤

why they can work for 60 hr not 36?
because all three (Vermiel, Miss Christine and Tragodia) have 0.25 self morale drain reduction skill
Scene lasts 36hrs as she doesn't have the extra 0.25 self MD reduction
how some of my base slaves morale reach 0 but still yellow smiley?
because it's still greater than 0, like 0.5
but game doesn't show decimals
so I won't know when they die to milk them more time?
thats what i thought as well but my automation team matches my power plant workersā morale, just eunectes is considerably lower
maybe i just didnt fully rest her last cycle and didnt notice, idk 
if theres no easy explanation oh well ill just be more careful in the future
never know that 5 cc worker reduce md. thank for info

Chestnut...?
How do we use presets with shifts? I am following the low rarity guide but it uses 4 shifts but there are only 3 presets
This is for lv3 trading posts
I used all my big mats stockpile on modules and Phantom2. I have to craft more lol
ok crafted some. Will replenish t4 stocks next rest cycle downtime.
cursed
you just cant set 4 presets, if you want to do 3 presets you need a 5th worker
Hmmm,what can i do
you can burn 200 lmd make it 1234
what are you waiting for?
red no proviso? smh
I have no Idea what to tell you, smh my head
-# quick go spread provisolumination in other channel
Running the base without Provisio is permanent account damage
I never stand orundum numbers like that
last time it happened to me I have to do cursed run to round up the number
iirc it was annihilation 1
isnt it better to just wait for selector?
i assume we getting another one in about a month or so for anniversary
you will
but red needs proviso now
paying 45 gold certs to use proviso for one month 
don't judge him
selector?
global anniversary 5 star selector on January
Nasti base skill will be as original as her kit, trust 
My bet is on... Precious Metals Beta
ahhhh
finally i'll have warfarin
i need MORE HYPERBUFFING
finally the rise of rhine base team
im just happy we getting more rhine event after so long
You don't have Warfie????
i was baited into getting lapp off the big selector when i started
Lappy is miles more useful than Warfie, so
Especially with the free Texas
No, Warfie is cute
ok but full ah for base
You cannot use the filthy fishes
why not? 
i wish to do split timing rotations where i do AH while i sleep on an 8h 16h cycle with staggered other things on 12h 12h 12h
because that's forbidden by the Church
the church?
which church?
The Church of the Deep
"Free Texas"
Gets baited into permanent account damage

So now that regular 80% byproduct skills can give basically worthless mats if they drop a loxic, manganese, or grindstone, are Corroserum stocks on the rise?
terra needs to invent the technologia that converts kohl into orundum shards
first time i felt like i hit the jackpot.
first time?
look fine enough
can I go higher than this?
oh vigil
this is better
i dont know that i do correctly for dormitory worker?
1ST+1Aoe morale recovery each dorm ?
dorm workers are almost entirely just for if you have specific rotations in mind, the only exceptions to that are czerny and iris who you use for rosmontis and senshi who you use for marcille
without specific rotations in mind its not worth giving up a dorm slot for the sake of dorm workers
when you are doing those specific rotations though yes you do use 1 aoe 1 st
oh and durin myrtle for pozy

your dorms scare me
should e2 tecno for art
yes 
resting lancet? 
you need to arrange better if there is no slot for atleast one aoe in dorm

2 durins go in training room workshop, rest 2 <myrtle,Durin> in dorms
oh yeah for sure, but im saying without specific setups in mind theres very little benefit to using dorm workers

and just having more free dorm slots does more to patch up mistakes than slightly faster morale recovery
again this is without specific setups in mind
isn't that leeway reason enough
except removing free dorm slots is less leeway, dorm workers arent cutting enough time off to be better than just having more free slots when you arent logging in more than 1-2 times per day
in general i assume people who arent off the deep end with optimization are only logging in 2 times per day
and if somebody needs to ask about dorm workers they arent off the deep end yet
barring specific setups it doesnt really matter if you recover 2 morale per hour or 2.4 per hour, either way you have your 12 hour shift ready
they're not really there to cut time, but to provide leeway/cover up when we miss the rotation time
again the full 20 slots aren't needed at once, if it is, the rotation arrangement needs improvement
and ideally you don't want to keep free dorm slots because skills like mrnothing and ebenholz benefit with full dorms.
ig it depends more on how you normally fuck things up, usually when i fuck things up i need to rest more workers than normal because somebody died that wasnt supposed to
i usually just throw filler into those slots when that happens
this has reminded me i should put my podenco in a dorm, theres no reason not to since shes 2 in 1
my dorms after most shifts: 

can aroma work for 36h in a lvl 3 fac with waai fu BUT with staggers? (12h shifts) meaning in the two shifts she is with waai fu, she is fine, but that one shift she isn't, i think she can't last for the remaining 12h. did the calc and she last for 10h but idk could someone confirm pls?
stagger with ramp up won't go well together
I work them for 24h
easy to replace out
maximum 27h
I wish nasti can boost Rhine Factory Team to go higher than 100% 
Obviously they arenāt resetting Aromaās ramp
Aroma loses 13.8 morale in the 12 hours she doesnāt have Waai Fu
Then 7.8 morale in 12 hours when working with Waai Fu
So she dies in 27.69 hours
Then 27 maximum is correct
Why would you want to run them maximum capacity
The dorm will crowded
Especially with lvl1 252
Maybe I misread what you were saying. I thought you were saying ādonāt stagger Aroma because it will reset her ramp,ā not āstaggering her partner causes too much MDā
Don't stagger her
Then turn out it will be arbiter trainer
Still a bit sad Mayer skill doesn't get included in Dorothy boost skill
You would need at least 0.15 MD to get Aroma to work 1 shift without Waai Fu and 2 shifts with Waai Fu. So either MÅynar + 2 smilies, WiÅ” + CE, or Chongyue + 40 WP
She can still work as substitute
I go all the way with wp team
Still use ros with eben tho
All wp also mean shu and jie yun
Which isn't optinal because it suck subpar fac with only 5% more for tp
||glaze uptake||
Well not even extra 5% for tp bc you can place Shu on right side buildings.
should i buy proviso from cert shop if I'm doing 252 with maxed tps and i dont have any of her best partners (yet)
you could wait a month for Anniversary free selector and get her without spending gold
oh nice
Nian is at that point
And no i can't put sui in TR i need RL for mumu drone boost
I dont get it
These ppl all have 0.25 md but they only work for 10 hours
The timer shows time until the Fac reaches capacity OR operator becomes tired, whichever is lower
if someone is busy enough to not login twice a day, I don't think some timer is going to convince them to login and collect some virtual gold bars
Lmao
Put RL in dorms or ditch Mumu for a 20%. The 5% PP will never be more valuable than 5% TP from having Shu in TR and an actually good Fac combo
man, that collab with popucom was š„ hope they do a rerun
I don't think put shu in fac is a good combo
*yet
thanks 
does hr office have innate MD?
No
Itās basically just % padding but with 35%+ exp ops.
damn scene vermeil and vulcan bubbul are both 67% expš„
now this is the part i wish i could do PI
has anyone tried a 342 setup with one tp just pepe?
Uh worse, Verm Scene in lvl 2 tp caps out at 65% and requires ramp, Bubble Vulcan is just 62%
432
yes tho still prefer 40%
i thought 3 tp was the limit
So thereās just no relevant combos better than just piling % in lvl 2 exp, for maxed base wise.
Uh 5 is the limit.
But it doesnāt provide any real value to do so.
its 33322 coz lvl2 office
and i want 3 gold on lvl3
umamusume is gifting so much shit cause pr*viso is secretly conspirating with tracen with the golds

is there like a % gold efficiency estimation to keep up with best proviso and shamare team?
342 pepe could work altho she just split gold/lmd 50/50
i mean like a total % between all gold facs
assuming 40% prov need 180% gold, 80% : 360% yeah give up
hypothetically speaking, 342 pepe with 2 gold 2 exp could work if the 2 gold facs can sustain proviso and shamare. or just use 3 gold 1 exp but that seems worse than standard 252 right. reading pepe special order skill, looks like it doesn't produce much lmd to sacrifice an exp fac over it
Someone did math when Pepe released and concluded that sheās worse efficiency than even U official if we simulated that it was a mixed fac/tp she was in.
ngl i might just run 2 smiley gladiia with like mon3tr, if i use dorm workers i def get enough rest for my workers
i might not bother with pinus because pinus plus ah is a pain to stagger without extra logins
not to mention pinus is only 105 until i get viviana so i can easily just drop a lil efficiency to make my life easier
and my pinus isnt built yet so roi 
this is not the place to be talking about your pinus


im also debating downgrading a factory to bring proviso tp back to level 3 and use eben nothing and lemuen exu as proviso partners
i'll talk about my pinus where i want to talk about my pinus 
if i were back home id calc it but alas im in a foreign country rn
i dont dislike the idea too much because using eben helps offset the drop in productivity thanks to rosmontis and theres a world in which i make too much gold anyway
in the world of suffering of 252 user
or is this only something to think about when cursing
I suggest if you are irl heavy use 243
im not so busy irl that i need to 243 but i dont have the time or energy to curse
in my line of work not like I have time to look at my phone every single time, I have 30' break to check my phone so 243 fit my schedule
me when trying to play more than 1 game
I suggest to dump your orundum shard 1 week before any banners
im just running a 252 where i log in twice a day, i plan to change that to 3 times per day but i dont have enough workers quite yet
(3 times is to stagger while maintaining an AH rot)
don't wait until the actual banner run you don't have enough % to dump it all, blueball by your own stock
im not at the point of considering AO
you will and shall
my account is still sub 1 year
AO is for when i have enough built characters to make me completely satisfied
i still think 100k lmd is worth something im too young for AO
for example you can make 1 pull per day, but banner only last 2 weeks so maximum you can make 14 pulls entire time of the banner, won't recommend do AO in the mean time when desperate pull
with my own result I can make upto 800
per day by using exodia
still not enough
how should i be understanding these numbers?
Is trading post lmd a 48 hr cycle or 24 hr cycle?
Somehow i mnaaged to hit 78000k previously but now using the same set up its down to 56000
the cycle at the server reset time
if you collect consistently at the same time the result will be the same
for example I collect 2 times a day so by reset time I still 78k
but somehow I forgot collect sonner or later the result like yours
it doesn't matter
if you do the math it's the same
when cursing 2 trading posts with +2.0, +1.0, 4 gold factories all with +1.0-1.2 productivity
or 2 fac each at least 1.2 if exodia can make it 1.5
here
yea
damn, it is really consistently 81k gold/lmd
don't ask for the third day
tp 2.0 wtf how
poz kirara prov?
so no shamare?
kirara can stay with shamare
or you can keep kirara, pozy, tuye in one tp and glasgow in another tp
when cursing only thing that matters is total %
wait... so you just force the best % fuck proviso and shamare altogether?
give me your rotation
I don't have exodia or glasgow, so my next best options for maintaining high tp % for cursed proviso, are proviso+pozy+40% and shamare+kirara+anything
wtf mean cursed proviso don't tell me everytime they produce the next batch you remove proviso then add tuye in then repeat?
I knew it
isn't that called cursed proviso
this unemployed behavior
how many durin do you need
4 durins + 4 gold factories
we have 5 durin
my minimalist is 40% fac
Don't ask for tomorrow
if i consistent with my AO I can make upto 2 pull a day
I do AO for fun not for pull

is this good enough
How in the
damn i didnt know 1-7 was fun
I mean at a point you have too much orundum AO is just for fun
the contribution is little
ahhh
it's beautiful (just got gnosis so I could finally e1 jaye after 5 years)
-# Worst decision ever since I start playing this game

Also Delphine team can do better, downside is you have to E2 2 useless 5* but they are free, and there are no MD in CC
does hoederer's base skill work with wisadel or only W?
Honestly I don't want to de leveling any RR, just HR lv2 is cool, not lv1

with context, yeah, I wouldn't level RR or HR
RR levels really got irrelevant fast for me the moment they gave you a huge amt of friend cap in an update
same
what does a max left allow again? lemme check pins
oh....
just 2 levels for a non-workshop
that won't do for me since I really want TR3
walter works
can the non-workshop, right-side facilty levels be swappable?
I'm seeing a 3311
but if I start a new profile
can i do a 1313?
i wish rr just didnt take extra power to level because ignoring it means you cant rent out any 6stars to people
p sure all the right side facilities use equal power iirc? so should all be swappable
surely they make rr stop taking power 
so 1313 with one lv2 tp and all facs lv3 should be doable iirc
indeed. although, like me, there are players who don't give a damn what you have and just want active clue partners
those would be the best friends for RR1 players
i like being able to borrow and rent out characters and its cringe its tied to rr level and that its suboptimal to level rr
it was so over the moment they doubled down on our new out-of-beta facilities starting with 3 trust EXP rooms....and then giving us another 3

that's the dream. the lvl 2 TP also makes it so great for Proviso
yea
even if said dream means using Passenger/Flit, etc.
i dont care about the trust rooms those are fine, but encouraging being selfish by making leveling rr bad is cringe
i can respect doing it but dont expect me to let you use one of my friend slots
ye same if i see a lv120 player with 2 supports id be like dam ok respect
what i mean with trust rooms is.....that's it. That's what they consider a "complete/not-beta" base
that's what we've been waiting for.....something so trivial
i see
the upgrade to the RR room is nice though
sorry rr upgrade?
RR room used to be smaller, non-customizable, no music player, etc
oh that
old times
the music player is nice but i dont care much about the other parts
free 300 credits per week making dorm levels even more worthless 
this "complete" base
has made dorm levels for friend points more trivial
and made RR levels for friend cap more trivial
yup
so many buffs for 252 max left
and yet no way to go from max right to max left

we give you all these rewards for something you could never achieve
that's the ultimate punishment
they know
the cope for me back then was right side doesn't take any energy ffs....
because it just feels weird that workshop gets the exception purely so you can't softlock your base upgrading
I mean you cant really softlock your base building since you can always just downgrade something from left and build more power plants
it's just
very inefficient is all
no i mean....
if workshop actually needs energy and higher base mat requirements to build
i can imagine in a really rare situation
you can softlock your base progress
ok to be more specific, i meant Workshop level upgrading
i feel like that's why they never allow right side facilities to be demolished/downgraded
cause they affect either base progression or utilities outside base
and coding the option in sounds like hell
im confused
what would stop you from just getting rid of some other buildings and upgrading workshop tho
bc workshop should be able to produce whatever it needs to upgrade itself
i was thinking.......right side facilities upgraded to higher levels you can't downgrade (still low level base)
you hit cap
and theoretically, Workshop needs higher energy consumption going to lvl2 and lvl 3
although yeah by that point, Workshop lvl 3 is required to level the OTHER right side facilities
i think it's just a weird theory in my head that you can "potentially" softlock
no i mean.....
oh yeah
you can make everything PP
on left side
as a solution
even if there's only 1 floor, that's 3 facilities
anyways I don't really get why they needed the other right side facilities to have higher energy cost on upgrading them especially when they can't be downgraded.

especially goddamn dorm levels
it should be easy if they let you downgrade but not demolish, the one thing is making recruit slots not refresh on hr upgrade
HR affects recruit slots, RR affects friend slots
i guess those are the only nightmares
ye
downgrading TR doesn't do much since you still have to input the training itself and it doesn't reverse operators that have gotten to M3
I'm just saying....Workshop level up requirements are so lenient
its like it was designed to be un-softlock-able even if you can downgrade it
So we finally have Mumu factory-edition
this is naturally gonna be useful on the 1 of 4 shifts where I use Mumu
I'm thinking if there's a way for her to be used in more dominant shifts (Mumu-less, Sui-more)....but that would mean putting most Rhine labs ops in dorms since the Suis would be using up most of the other facilities
what's your thoughts on her, Gato?
Mumu-only shifts/1-shift/sub or can be inserted into 2-3 shift combos?
wait do we have new base skills on cn now?
rhine on the rise
i mean.....hmmm
with Nasti included
would this mean Doro + Silencer + Nasti is.....how much prod
lemme check if Gato has done it already
he has
110%....

optimal mr sub team
oh whoops ping
it's been forever since i checked my max prod for each combo
I need to review if RL combo is only for sub or if I have room for it to ever main anything
not to mention frees up the TR
since you need 1 fewer Rhine op
the only downside of her is that she can't work in dead lancet rots
Gato, I'm a bit lazy, can you review my excel for me for Nasti improvements?
i dont care fuck dead lancet
i'm ending my fields
so no
i will RL eventually
yeah sure, but you'd want to trigger her and muel at the same time
indeed
also nasti breaks the 4th wall
but Mumu is stuck in 1 shift out of the entire loop
well that's you, i use her in 2
like nasti's skill openly admits it costs a shit ton to use it
it's in the name
"high budget"
cuz you need 4 more e2s, 1 dorothy and 1 muel

thats not an issue for me at least
it's just funny
iirc the only RL that's still unraised is Astgenne
I'll just make a theoretical build with Nasti. But I'm still not set on pulling for her
For now I'm just gonna pray she spooks me, like Thornstar
praying for RL dorm workers so i dont have to dorm micromanage with RL
Hell, I don't know if my greed build will pay off with Hoshitter in an alter CC sub
im pulling nasti i require all banshees
My laziness is making me not bother creating a future rotation if I don't plan to get the operator....unless spooked
I'll just wait for Nasti's ingame performance if her S2 and S3 is really a must-pull
my ass tries to plan everything instantly when i get info
supporter: mag, mayer
medic: ptil, silence
done
class filtering made things so fucking easier
any units that are high level will appear first
like i used to do the morale not assigned thing
but this is way better
you can also max level them and get them earlier
Hey2, i read Vermeil factory skill (e.g.: pair her with Ceobe + ExecAlter), but the output is not much different with using 3 standard +30% operator ya?
verm pair with pallas + scene
or ceobe scene
for xp
So its just an additive 16%+44%+41% = 101%?
I mean, not much difference compare to combination of 30% base worker, and some 35% base worker
Yes. There's total calculation in the right.
you only using them as a sub?
Yes2.. okay got it, just confirming my understanding, i thought the difference is a lot
you can look at it that way, problem with verm team is the other 2 need to be high value enough to cover verm shortcoming, and that's a really old team tbf
in the end, up to you how sweaty you are in optimizing your base
some of us here sweat hard for a 5%
like ancient
although i've gotten past the sweatiness of it
because I really just can't afford to pull purely for base-only ops
No you can but you decided not to
yeah my wording on afford here is more like
value over capability
I no longer see the same value I used to when I was rolling for Pinus Sylvestris all the way back when they released
Base meta also get powercreep overtime
gotta be conservative with my luck if I want to top up as little as possible for my AK bliss
for me it's been a while since it has halted a bit
I won't pull for nasti just for gold boost
with only 1-5% improvements
Come on i have ros
Nasti right now is just a 12 hr sub improvement
not a 24-36 hr shift combo improvement
oh yeah ig i could just do the micromanagement when i fia and use the same ones each time, ty for the input
I want more cc ops which boost hr
The only good thing with current rl that i can stagger them
Not tie with any combo but supar outcome
yaeh even with 3 gold, none of them are lower than Nasti's combo
So even in a 3 gold, Nasti is gonna be a sub. Which is why I'm not too motivated to get her for base-purposes-only.
would've been nice if she was xp
at the cost of 4-5 other RLs needing to hit the dorms, sure
using RL ops in base is no longer ever common for me
rarity of using duo Doro and Silencer with someone else as a sub in 3 EXP
and the typical Mumu shifts
even then I don't feel like pulling for Nasti just for that
if we're talking base must pull:
it has to be either a worthwhile combo creator (not sub-tier),
or a really amazing improvement to an existing combo (Nasti isn't TOO amazing and the combo is still sub-tier),
or Proviso levels of absurd
it's actually interesting you brought it up too since Nasti would actually be more valuable if she wasn't used with Dorothy (and used off-shift from Mumu) and was included in 2-ops combos in a 3-slot gold factory
as to why.....because my subs tend to be subbed out by AH combo after 4 hrs of their shift
@jaunty notch Is Zyf still active here?
He appears here time to time
then I'll bother him IF I get a Nasti
you are nasty
Hey, for AH Team, basically even if Ulpi, Specter, Underflow doesnt have any Factory skill, they will do +40% Factory production as long as Gladia is in the CC? (note: i only have Ulpi, Specter, Underflow)
you need ulpi skadi specter and andreanna for them to be 40s but yes
with only 2 of them they are 20s
Clear, thx!
@orchid bane 2 more hour til proviso out of gold cert shop
error 500 right when its time to drone
prov shop value depend if you got shama or teq in roaster as you can get her in next month
error at the same time as my fia dammit
i got 13 mins left b4 the order ends
i was in game waiting for fia timer and when it's done i got kick out by error 500 
idk the rest of the timer but can't be good
people are saying 4hr downtime
Cloudflare once again

fail fia? yes permanent base damage

Then I'm getting clues from bots?
i think jusan meant to say he's single and playing this game, just a misunderstanding from my phrasing

we all know the AK friends are all constructs of our mind
yes, seaborn brethren
dissapointed with s2 smh but will still watch new season
Tbh, i hate when they out of knowhere make it the story canon.
nothing matters when multiverse are involved in any medium, no real substance in this or any medium form of "canon" when you can just write it of as Earth3345X version
mofos disconnect the game when a rotation rest ended and right when I removed Dusk for a little Fia, them sons of witches
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we shall suffer together

try to jump higher


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